Thank you for this tutorial, you are the ONLY youtuber that I've found amongst 5-10 reviewers who mentions the first huge issue with this gimbal when paired with BMPCC 4k/6k. You don't mount the camera in the centre, it has to be mounted off centre for the camera to fit on the gimbal. I dislike this gimbal immensely. For anyone who has a BMPCC and is thinking of buying a Moza, don't bother, look at the Zhiyun Crane 2, it is a walk in the park to set up, my 13 year old son was able to do it while watching a video tutorial. I sadly choose a Moza Air2 over a Ronin DJI, biggest regret, and all because I watched a youtube review that backed the Moza over the Ronin 😢 Thank you again for this video 👍
Thanks for this. Good demo. When you initially have it set up at 4:23 and you lean it over to see if it rolls, is it powered on at this point? I got the impression that it was not. I want to know if I am supposed to be able to get it to balance so it does not roll even without power on.
Hey man! Do you use moza's follow focus system? iFocus? If yes, how do you get it to rotate you lens smoothly without skipping the teeth on a focus ring? Thank you!
The plate large screw only fits centered mounting. When offset the small screws must be used. Causing shifting , sliding of camera before camera is even mounted.. The purpose of the larger screw seems to fully secure camera to plate...can you address this seemingly flaw. Of use of bmpcc4k with moza air 2. I hope so I bought moza. After watching this video.......thanks
Aiz Mor yes it does have to be offset and I have never had problems with the cage moving when properly tightened. I have used it multiple times and nothing like that has happened. I hope this helps thank you for watching.
@@bmpcc4ktech852 It's weird that you mention this possibility, which is central to balancing this rig, and then don't show or tell us which holes and how much offset you used fot it. Super helpful video regardless, but just letting you know that when someone is doing something new they tend to hang on every detail. thanks, bro
frogiac yeah I totally forgot to show which one exactly but through trial and error it can be figured out. UA-cam doesn’t have a feature to add photos at this point.
@@bmpcc4ktech852 Same as Frogiac... i've been getting frustrated with the official Moza video as it refers to kit that doesn't come with the Air 2. I have the smallrig cage, use the centre holes and it won't fit on the rig. be good to know where you attached the plate exactly?
I can't get the bmpcc4k with a smallrig full cage to rotate horizontally in inception mode? It works fine vertically but I don't want to be filming up at the ceiling or sky. I think it has something to do with the cameras weight and the the motors power. I've even tried the motor power in heavy mode and the camera still won't do a 360° roll. Just gives up. Can anyone help?
@@d.edwardsfreelanceeditorvi4212 I sold the moza, mines seemed glitch, it would spazz out sometimes when turning on. Could've been a faulty gimbal but I stayed with the ronin s. I also had issues with zhiyun before so I just went with dji whom seem to have better quality control
@@veganchasers2213 damn seriously? I just pulled the trigger and got the moza air. It included the follow focus for free so I went for it. Will I guess I will take the gamble. There should be a warranty or return policy if I have issues.
Did you purchase additional screws? I am having the hardest time balancing my BMPCC4K on the MOZA Air 2. Every time I attach the small rig cage to the camera it is fine but when trying to assemble with Moza air it is too close. Then when I try to place the quick release plate to the cage the screws does not work to balance correctly.
Ok This is a workaround I did, you how on the moza air box comes with 2 quick release plates? Well I took the large screw out of one and put the other little screw from the other plate and did an “offset” and it works, well it fits now, I just can’t get it to balance properly
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Thinking of this setup, please test it with the sigma, ssd clamped etc. Also if you have the follow focus it would be nice, and the reliability, if it fails in any scenario. Thank you and good job :D
I'm confused. I have a Canon 24-105 f/4L IS II (the newer model) which is slightly shorter and lighter than the 18-35 and I can't get it to balance. What am I doing wrong?
Hello what's it mean if I can't get the roll balanced? Doesn't matter what micro adjust I do it goes center on the roll. Doesn't stay "put" like it should. Pitch and Yaw seem balanced and everything is tightened. Please help
How the hell did you balance it going left to right My blm 4k seems so left side heavy yet is weighing less than your set up at about 3 lbs with just a meike lense and the smallrig and still is left heavy. Not sure what I'm doing wrong
If it’s the same exact setup make sure the gimbal motors are set to full strength. It will drain the batteries a little faster but as long as the camera is balanced you should be fine.
I'm having an impossible time finding a compatible cord to connect the Moza to my BMPCC4K. What are you using? The main reason I bought this Moza was to change camera settings from the gimbal.
@@xANNNU make sure your pan axis is properly balanced. i dont have the bmpcc4k, but i am running a Canon R with battery grip and 24-105 zoomed out to 105, the gimbal works no problem to do the roll. i would also suggest to do the firmware update as that fixes many issues.
bmpcc4k + sigma 18-35 + smallrig offset plate, moza's base plate pulled back all the way but still top heavy (falling forward) :S cant solve this mystery.
@@thomasmadden3080 Yea I did make it work but not the ideal way I guess because of screwing the offset plate to smallrig speedbooster support and not the camera (this idea I got from this video ua-cam.com/video/GXCnNaRPGnA/v-deo.html&ab_channel=MAURO%27SFILMS where I noticed the baseplate was not mounted to camera making it bottom free ) thats how the camera gets more room to back further on moza plate and not front heavy anymore, I dont like this only because now its mounted only with one screw whereas the original camera mount has two holes on the the sides, havent used it much since so dont know if it will be a problem :)
got exactly same set-up its just impassible to balance this using only this what I see here, roll just freak out , ( I have using gimbals for 4 yers now almost every day and project I do, I really know how to balance ) but this is Really from heavy and its fall to the left side no matter how hard I try... when I added additional baseplate and offset this to right almost sticking to motors It was working but gimbal act as it have no strength and roll freak out like it would be off ... And to be honest this "leather alike" think peel off :/
you might want to check and see if the motor strength is set to ultra light i tried to do inception moode with this gimbal yesterday with a rokinon 14mm and could not get it do inception mode until i went tampering with settings and realized that the motors where set to ultra light this might help with the roll out
The proof is in the footage. Will hold off on commenting til then. HOWEVER... I owned the Mozza Air v1 and it dissapointed me on several occasions on set. Had to sell it off and grab the Zhiyun Crane 2 with the auto focus. Never let me down yet. Anyone purchasing the Mozza Air... be cautious.
I balanced it with some of my go to lenses but only testing it in several modes and checking the footage will demonstrate the quality of the gimbal 👍🏽 I hope it works because I got a great deal on it 🤣
Why you are headless? Looks terrible. The narrator should be in the stereo-middle not left only. And you have to get some room-athmo under all. I had to stop it at the half of the video. couldn't stand it. Pity
@@bmpcc4ktech852 It's normal, that people want to see the others face, when they are communicating. All the other YT-Folks that I saw making videos about the gimbals suited to the BM succeeded in showing me their face a n d showing me how the gimbal setup is going to do, meaning: it can't be so complicated. If you want no good sound it's o.k. with this behaviour you will loose viewers. There are a lot of good makers on YT.
i have the same camera, cage and lens (plus a ssd mount and drive) and i just cant get this thing to balance on the final axis. i cant stop it from rolling. am i doing something wrong?
My left ear enjoyed this video...
BS
haha same. I had to check my earphone cable lol
My right ear didn't.
my right ear is disappointed.
Thank you for this tutorial, you are the ONLY youtuber that I've found amongst 5-10 reviewers who mentions the first huge issue with this gimbal when paired with BMPCC 4k/6k. You don't mount the camera in the centre, it has to be mounted off centre for the camera to fit on the gimbal. I dislike this gimbal immensely. For anyone who has a BMPCC and is thinking of buying a Moza, don't bother, look at the Zhiyun Crane 2, it is a walk in the park to set up, my 13 year old son was able to do it while watching a video tutorial. I sadly choose a Moza Air2 over a Ronin DJI, biggest regret, and all because I watched a youtube review that backed the Moza over the Ronin 😢 Thank you again for this video 👍
i have half cage. does that work in moza air 2?
Thanks for this. Good demo.
When you initially have it set up at 4:23 and you lean it over to see if it rolls, is it powered on at this point? I got the impression that it was not. I want to know if I am supposed to be able to get it to balance so it does not roll even without power on.
Exactly what I was looking for. That sigma 18-35 ways a ton and it’s exactly what I have. Plus the SSD clamp
Hi, can you add the Samsung ssd to this same set up ?
Can you start linking products in your description
Hey man! Do you use moza's follow focus system? iFocus? If yes, how do you get it to rotate you lens smoothly without skipping the teeth on a focus ring? Thank you!
The plate large screw only fits centered mounting. When offset the small screws must be used. Causing shifting , sliding of camera before camera is even mounted.. The purpose of the larger screw seems to fully secure camera to plate...can you address this seemingly flaw. Of use of bmpcc4k with moza air 2. I hope so I bought moza. After watching this video.......thanks
Aiz Mor yes it does have to be offset and I have never had problems with the cage moving when properly tightened. I have used it multiple times and nothing like that has happened. I hope this helps thank you for watching.
When you put the plate onto the cage, where you able to mount it in the middle using the larger screw hole on the cage or did you have to offset it?
Eric Ventimiglia yes it was offset
@@bmpcc4ktech852 It's weird that you mention this possibility, which is central to balancing this rig, and then don't show or tell us which holes and how much offset you used fot it. Super helpful video regardless, but just letting you know that when someone is doing something new they tend to hang on every detail. thanks, bro
frogiac yeah I totally forgot to show which one exactly but through trial and error it can be figured out. UA-cam doesn’t have a feature to add photos at this point.
@@bmpcc4ktech852 Same as Frogiac... i've been getting frustrated with the official Moza video as it refers to kit that doesn't come with the Air 2. I have the smallrig cage, use the centre holes and it won't fit on the rig. be good to know where you attached the plate exactly?
fraught it’s offset, check which one works for you. I haven’t set it up on the gimbal in a while so don’t know off hand
I am unable to mount the iFocus on this lens cause the rods are not large enough... WTF
SO CLEAR ANS SPECIFIC!!!
A Sando thank you
@BMMPC4K tech - Is it possible to connect an external power source for the BMPCC 4K to this Gimnbal?
Does the record button on the MOZA work with the BMPCC4K?
thanks for the video, will it balance and still clear the motors using the follow focus, with the 18-35mm???
I can't get the bmpcc4k with a smallrig full cage to rotate horizontally in inception mode? It works fine vertically but I don't want to be filming up at the ceiling or sky.
I think it has something to do with the cameras weight and the the motors power. I've even tried the motor power in heavy mode and the camera still won't do a 360° roll. Just gives up.
Can anyone help?
they say the battery on the moza sucks and dies on you after a few weeks or months is ther another option for battery life
Thanks for this we have literally the same set up.
Just bought mine, can’t fit it on my moza air 2, do i really need a cage? what’s ur recommendation?
How come after I balance it and I use the joy stick to turn left or right after i come to a stop the camera slightly tilts to one side just slightly
hi, Thanks for sharing. Amazing work! The cage doesn't restrict us to use gimbal? Any cage? Thanks!
"this setup is 4 punds 9.5 ounces" did you mean the camera with cage and lens only? or the whole stuff?
What about focus?
Dino Ganić ifocus from Moza will handle that.
@@bmpcc4ktech852 can you do a video on that please?
Mine leans to the left. Help why is that
question have you ever tried balacing it with a ssd drive and a npf battery plate attached to it ?
are these all the pats that come with it standard ?
Have both, ronin s so it should work on that too. Trying tomorrow
Vegan Chasers which do you like most? I still can’t decide between the ronin s and moza..
@@d.edwardsfreelanceeditorvi4212 I sold the moza, mines seemed glitch, it would spazz out sometimes when turning on. Could've been a faulty gimbal but I stayed with the ronin s. I also had issues with zhiyun before so I just went with dji whom seem to have better quality control
@@veganchasers2213 damn seriously? I just pulled the trigger and got the moza air. It included the follow focus for free so I went for it. Will I guess I will take the gamble. There should be a warranty or return policy if I have issues.
Do you know if you are able to mount the camera with a full cage on the ronin s?
Did you purchase additional screws? I am having the hardest time balancing my BMPCC4K on the MOZA Air 2. Every time I attach the small rig cage to the camera it is fine but when trying to assemble with Moza air it is too close. Then when I try to place the quick release plate to the cage the screws does not work to balance correctly.
Which hole on the cage did you end up using? I'm new to gimbals and can't seem to get it balanced yet. Have sigma 18-35 + viltrox and sm full cage
Nathan M I have a similar set up and was wondering if you figured this out?
@@thomasmadden3080My moza crapped out on me before I got the chance unfortunately
Ok This is a workaround I did, you how on the moza air box comes with 2 quick release plates? Well I took the large screw out of one and put the other little screw from the other plate and did an “offset” and it works, well it fits now, I just can’t get it to balance properly
Thinking of this setup, please test it with the sigma, ssd clamped etc. Also if you have the follow focus it would be nice, and the reliability, if it fails in any scenario.
Thank you and good job :D
I'm confused. I have a Canon 24-105 f/4L IS II (the newer model) which is slightly shorter and lighter than the 18-35 and I can't get it to balance. What am I doing wrong?
whats using for plate name ???? pls pls
Can we see some footage with the Moza ?
Hello
what's it mean if I can't get the roll balanced? Doesn't matter what micro adjust I do it goes center on the roll. Doesn't stay "put" like it should. Pitch and Yaw seem balanced and everything is tightened. Please help
Seeing that this was done so long ago and no footage video was ever posted I'll consider it a no go.
David Love LOL 😂 there was a video made with this exact setup.
David Love look at my videos and watch “The World On A String”
Does the camera fit on the gimbal without a cage?
nordfresse the camera alone does not fit on the gimbal you will need a cheese plate or something similar to offset the mounting point.
Just what I was looking for!!! Any chance you can try to power the camera with the power output from the gimbal?
Can you power this with a power bank with no batteries inside?
yeah I'd be interested in hearing an answer to this too..
@@HamishTea I tried it with a power bank to USB C and it didn't work. But using a Vmount battery to dc works great
My moza air 2 keeps turning off when i put the camera on
like how?
When you were balancing the camera at 3:07 I had no idea what you were doing. Would love a visual of how you got it to stay upright
How the hell did you balance it going left to right
My blm 4k seems so left side heavy yet is weighing less than your set up at about 3 lbs with just a meike lense and the smallrig and still is left heavy.
Not sure what I'm doing wrong
Same here, have u had any luck?
Same. Did you fix this? I’m on the fence on selling mine because of this
Can use a follow focus with this setup?
I have one on mine. works well but not in the inception mode. But I think that's more on me. Have to play a little more with it.
I've done everything you did and mine always fails. Like it just drops and I have to re-center it. Any tips?
If it’s the same exact setup make sure the gimbal motors are set to full strength. It will drain the batteries a little faster but as long as the camera is balanced you should be fine.
@@bmpcc4ktech852 how much shooting time did you get out of it?
Can it handle the weight of the camera with the power base edge battery attached to it bro ?
I dont know since I do not own that battery. Thanks for watching the video
I dont know since I do not own that battery. Thanks for watching the video
Ok thanks bro keep up the great videos . Loving my cam
I have a 2.9 lb lens which is way heavier...will give test results when I try.. I might need counterbalance weights
I'm having an impossible time finding a compatible cord to connect the Moza to my BMPCC4K. What are you using? The main reason I bought this Moza was to change camera settings from the gimbal.
this is the cord you are looking for www.amazon.com/dp/B07LFN75KM/?coliid=IEGDGNCSN1BDN&colid=22N81MIRWW8PR&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Has anyone tried this gimbal with a Tilta Cage?
Do you can use the Inception Mode with the Sigma 18-35?
It doesn't work with my Moza and this setup..
ksup haven’t tried that yet. What happens when you try the inception mode with this setup?
@@bmpcc4ktech852 It doesn't do the whole roll. The Moza stops at the half.
ksup that sucks and terrible news. Thanks for letting me know I was going to test tomorrow.
@@bmpcc4ktech852Let us know how it works for you.
@@xANNNU make sure your pan axis is properly balanced. i dont have the bmpcc4k, but i am running a Canon R with battery grip and 24-105 zoomed out to 105, the gimbal works no problem to do the roll. i would also suggest to do the firmware update as that fixes many issues.
Is that its actual box??
Yep
It would be great to see this review with a Canon 24-70 and a Ronin-S with a mic. Stabalized ENG! 😁
oceantransistor if I had that lens I would gladly review it.
My moza air 2 vibrates after doing autotune. Everything is well balanced, but the gimbal vibrates like crazy in certain orientations. Any idea?
try to set your motor strenght in the settings. like weak for smaller camera and strong for more heavy ones. that might help :)
nice
Can I really take advice from a Steelers fan?
Mick Lexington 🤣🤣🤣 football season just started but the rivalries never end 👍🏽
I say this a joke, I have a lot of respect for the Stillers, but I'm a packer fan at heart.
bmpcc4k + sigma 18-35 + smallrig offset plate, moza's base plate pulled back all the way but still top heavy (falling forward) :S cant solve this mystery.
Any luck since?
@@thomasmadden3080 Yea I did make it work but not the ideal way I guess because of screwing the offset plate to smallrig speedbooster support and not the camera (this idea I got from this video ua-cam.com/video/GXCnNaRPGnA/v-deo.html&ab_channel=MAURO%27SFILMS where I noticed the baseplate was not mounted to camera making it bottom free ) thats how the camera gets more room to back further on moza plate and not front heavy anymore, I dont like this only because now its mounted only with one screw whereas the original camera mount has two holes on the the sides, havent used it much since so dont know if it will be a problem :)
Roomtone bruh, roomtone.
got exactly same set-up its just impassible to balance this using only this what I see here, roll just freak out , ( I have using gimbals for 4 yers now almost every day and project I do, I really know how to balance ) but this is Really from heavy and its fall to the left side no matter how hard I try... when I added additional baseplate and offset this to right almost sticking to motors It was working but gimbal act as it have no strength and roll freak out like it would be off ... And to be honest this "leather alike" think peel off :/
you might want to check and see if the motor strength is set to ultra light i tried to do inception moode with this gimbal yesterday with a rokinon 14mm and could not get it do inception mode until i went tampering with settings and realized that the motors where set to ultra light this might help with the roll out
This video saved my a$#!! Thanks!! Lol
I have feiyutech AK4000, it think it is better than this one.
I had them both. Kept the Moza sold the AK4000.
The proof is in the footage.
Will hold off on commenting til then. HOWEVER... I owned the Mozza Air v1 and it dissapointed me on several occasions on set.
Had to sell it off and grab the Zhiyun Crane 2 with the auto focus. Never let me down yet.
Anyone purchasing the Mozza Air... be cautious.
I balanced it with some of my go to lenses but only testing it in several modes and checking the footage will demonstrate the quality of the gimbal 👍🏽 I hope it works because I got a great deal on it 🤣
I've heard some complaints about the Moza Air v1, I'm hoping that they fixed it with v2. My gimbal is on its way from Hong Kong right now.
@@bmpcc4ktech852 any footage ready yet? I'm also curious :)
Stefan Lindblom shot some footage recently for another project and will post in next week.
You got a downvote simply for your poor taste in shirts. Choose wisely because you're otherwise very talented.
Why you are headless? Looks terrible. The narrator should be in the stereo-middle not left only. And you have to get some room-athmo under all. I had to stop it at the half of the video. couldn't stand it. Pity
Why do you want to see my head instead of the gimbal setup? 🤣 easy there audiophile but could you hear the sound? 🤦🏽♂️ pity 👍🏽
@@bmpcc4ktech852 It's normal, that people want to see the others face, when they are communicating. All the other YT-Folks that I saw making videos about the gimbals suited to the BM succeeded in showing me their face a n d showing me how the gimbal setup is going to do, meaning: it can't be so complicated. If you want no good sound it's o.k. with this behaviour you will loose viewers. There are a lot of good makers on YT.
Mathias Siebert thanks 👍🏽🤦🏽♂️
i have the same camera, cage and lens (plus a ssd mount and drive) and i just cant get this thing to balance on the final axis. i cant stop it from rolling. am i doing something wrong?
Update: I just had to keep trying
@@BasedBrooklyn we appreciate that