Explosive Nitrous 441CI(7.2L) SBC Demonstration from Nelson Racing Engines. NRE. Camaro, Chevelle.
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Tom Nelson shows us another nitrous motor for his Australian customer. Good revs and sound. Lots of power. Not as complicated as some NRE motors. Go to nelsonracingeng... and nelsonsupercars.... Also go to VeritasMovieStu....
VERY IMPRESSED! I am blitzed at how quick it starts and how tite that motor is! Call me old school but I still love my carburetors over fuel injection.
Thats my motor 2024.
Still going strong.
Built 2015, won multiple events with it .
Mid 9s, th350 turbo, full manual, 3000rpm stall, streetable pump gas motor.
850 double pumper, 210cc AFR, 10.3 comp
Run at high altitude, bigger carb and heads no gain at high altitude.
Tom your engines are ridiculously strong!
Everybody talkin' bout the N2O but I was already blown away by the first few seconds showing it running out to 7K and still sounding like there was more.
I was a atv bike mechanic, i setup nitrous on banshees. 30hp was violent on a 350 cc 2 stroke, but 20hp was just right! Nitrous is awesome on any motor!
Wow 😯 that’s awesome for a hefty small block ! Amazing work!
Beautiful! I want a job working for Nelson Engines! Will work cheap jsut to hear these engines run! Seriously!
You sweep FLOORS and take out trash?
It looks like the dyno "slipped" or leaked when you hit the button. That RPM jumpis the slack. 250hp at 3000 rpm is worth about 400 foot pounds, and that 441 was making 470ish at 3K when you hit the button, so that thing must have made near 800 lb ft. Nitrous is hard on parts, but woweeee, gaining that much torque instantly is nuts!!!
For me, it's like music! I dream about having a car with one of your engines! Greetings from Italy!
not a big fan of nitrous, but i like the demos and the detailed explanations of how it works. great vids NRE
Wow, I have always been a small block fan. Home run!!!!!
Always something down right beastly on every video!
I wish I could meet mr Nelson and have Him do a mopar ...and see what magic he can do .
This dude is a God of engine's!
Good work as always tom.
There goes $6.95 @ 1:03.
this thing sounds badass
Yes please Mr Nelson..yes please
First time for me with the Nitroz was 1991. Have even now in my Mopar Challenger 70 Pro Shot Fogger. But I have not tried it yet!
The Best I Ever Seen
Beast! Love the SBC
Forced Induction > Nitrous
The power is always there. No having to refill the bottle, no running out in a long race, and no having to push a separate button. I've also heard of engine problems getting the mixture wrong with nitrous.
Having a nitro N/A Engine has advantages. Some of the quickest car around are nitro. Those yanky foxbodies with nitro small blocks absolutely fly. Forced induction is always harder to get out of the hole to. But yeah N20 is high maintenance
@GryphonDork yes thats how they build the engines in NASCAR they're using 350 seize engines that top out at 10 grand and are naturally aspirated and make about 800 hp, but you would have to have a rear end gear and transmission that would take advantage of that
Another sweet engine. Keep up the good work.
nicely done, again. thx nre
Thank you for the great video, lots of fun.
Wow that thing is mean! Need that in my Nova..
In all likely hood those solenoids were checked and flowed by a 3rd party nitrous specialist so they really aren't NOS brand anymore if any tweaks needed to be made. All the N20 Guru's use it all because they are talented enough to elevate any brand components to a level to where they can then be matched with the rest of the set-up. I think that guy was just saying for the average user, NX stuff is a little better. Controller wise I say they are on par NOS controllers are really nice.
Real nice!
NX offers a wide range or model specific kits and things like plates that make nitrous more accessible to more people. NOS stuff is pretty basic, then once you get to DP's and things like that both can plumb you a great system, and flow it for you too. I just don't like their solenoids, I also think on a single nozzle EFI system NX nozzles atomize and distribute easier, not to say better... just less tweaking. These things can all be taken up by experienced users, to others its a deal breaker.
That’s probably a bad ass engine I had a 434 back in the day with a induction solution fogger kit your engine make a little more than mine did mine was done by a local guy which I had no problem until I sent her to nitrous hell. Took about a year to do it ran great though.
That is one angry little engine! What timing and compression is that engine running. I've always been told not to hit the NOS below 3000 RPM, does that still hold true with your engines with the extensive head sealing you went thru? Thanks for any answers in advance, I know this is an old video.
With no load it's OK to hit the button....
@Procharmo No. That is just what the dyno is set for. Idle for this is probably about 800-900 rpm's.
Did he say it's a little small block chevy?
compared to the bbc they normally are fooling with yeah it's small.
n5ifi I like the big small blocks like the Bill Mitchell 454 small block chevy and the Ford 460 small block
Yeah that's bs bout domi carbs I had a 700 proforn full race carb on my 95 cobra with built 310 you could go out in 20° weather push pedal once it would fire right up might have to push once more start again but it would sit and idle
Awesome vid....smallbkocks rock
Valve springs have always been the limiting factor, & will be as long as they are used.
Limiting! lmaoooooo
I'm 60,000. Hooray!
The engines that are 421 and up that are sbc should be called the honey badger series
Save your money...... I have a bone stock 350ci gm " 290hp " small block. I put patriot performance 190 cc heads on it with a crower cam..... 240.. 246 duration at 50" 512 " lift. I have gone through at least 25 bottles of nitrous on this combo. The first 10 or so we're 150hp shot. Then 200 hp after. My heads are 64cc. My timing is retarded 5 degrees from a very high 40 to start off with. So with nitrous its 35. My 02 sensor reads 12.1: 1 a/f ratio. A little rich but staying together!!!! I think the rich mixture and lower static compression ratio is holding this together . I really don't care... Because I have not been beaten on the street!!!! It's probably around 550 hp ... But very violent from 2900 rpm when I hit the gas!!!
?? Probably?? Yeah right.
Those old small blocks love nitrous oxide. You can make great power with them
Id like to have that bad boy in my 85 chevy truck!
Insane
@adamryanclark Don't need to ask these questions. Just check out their website. 640 hp w/o nitrous.
@speedweenie amen brother
Crankshaft Remover in the wrong hands.
yeah ! ! ! ! ! ! !
awesome vid
That’s crazy 😝🤤
dude...that thing is nasty!
i think peoples issue with the dominator is a severe lack of cfm vs carb opening.
that is one nasty little motor
Awesome
bullshit there is tons of difference the only thing constant between the two is the compound itself. Induction Solutions offers the best support out of them all, but if i had to pick someone else to deal with I would choose Nitrous Express their solenoids are pretty badass, last I checked alot of the NOS stuff is still kind of old technology, their topshelf noids are nice though.
Bad ass! 🍻
Mrdodge01...... How is 10.2:1 a/f ratio going to wash the cylinders down. It's only running for a max of 9 seconds on gas which is about 1000 revo
A V8 engine with 1,900rpm at idle
Just wondering if the idle up at 1800 or down at 1600 which was the least that I saw was what he is going to have it at once in the car ? Wouldn't that be annoying to drive ? I have an Audi A4 with alittle over 700hp with a 50 shot to get me off the line cuz the turbo is so big but still idle at 900 !
@rjc862003 You could be right. However generally the higher the operating rpm the higher the idle rpm. Check out F1 engines redlining at over 18,000 rpm and idling at around 4 - 10K........
But yes you could be right in this case......
FUCK you and your F 1!!!!
@RIPSNZ 877hp, so 627hp N/A.
Holy Shhittt man
wow ik this guys engines are stupidly power full and went to his site clicked on 2 differnt engines one was 23000 and one was 35000 just for the engine n he does full cars damnn what are thoses 200000 dollars
Working on G-body. Looking for a sbc. Might have found something here
Lol I have a 500hp 355 dart motor I would sell PM me
Wow monster sounds wicked what is the spec's on parts
I set aside 100$ a week for a Nelson engine , I'm ten years out m but one day m my truck will be slick, my question is how durable can you make it , a turbo or blown motor should see 50,000 miles , would you be able to sportingly use nitrous and have it be reliable? I'm saving for the twin mirrror , but was curious
dude, I soooooooo want your job.
Don't follow Leed!!!!!
make a good tow motor for a Suburban pulling a car trailer
Hell yeah it would. You could tow bunches on vehicles
I LIKE TO SEE A BUILD A PROCHARGE OR A SINGLE OR A TWIN TURBO V 12 MOTOR . THAT WILL BE SWEET .
What's with the 1800+ rpm idle? That'll such in a manual.
Lol. Fuck it. With this kind of an engine, you're in the mood to clutch dump from 3500 at every stop.
Cam overlap .
i have a small block that idles at 1500 in a manual and its funner then fuck, sucks when your trying to go slow though
I am curious why the high idle RPM too. Did Tom Nelson answer this in a reply to another post?
I figure its a race engine so it idles higher than most but 1800 rpm idle seems wild
Sick
It didn’t sound happy in upper rpms ...
do you build anything for the pulling side of raceing or all you all drag and street raceing
That needles a lot faster than the actual numbers on the tach it's going seven the numbers are going 5
Does anyone know if these guys still sell to the public... i've tried to call these guys and filled out a contact form... but no one answers the phone or replied by email...
I'll work for you someday
Sweet...money well spent...He'll be keeping that bottle well hidden 'cos giggle gas is illegal on the street down here.
Hey tom, Where can I get one of those purge type systems.
for 100 shots do you think Dry shots is safe?
fuckin rad!
it a what 441 447 451 ???
mr. bigblockman I think it must be varible displacement when he hits the juice everything swells up lol
have yall ever built diesel motors?
No need for LS after all
How much does that engine cost
the carby is a nice bit of gear . who is the builder of it ( ie pro system etc )
Warren John Cook the carb shop does all their work
Mean
what does it make on motor alone
how will it hurt it?
Mr dodge01....... How is a 10.2:1 a/f ratio going to wash the cylinder walls down. It's only running for a max of 9 seconds on gas and that's about 1000 revolutions of the engine. If you used gas once a week for a year that's 50000 revolutions or like cruising at 2000 rpm for 25 minutes. Not really a long time over a year to wash the cylinder walls down. .. Dope!
john branski then why even view it.? A lot of people (millions of us in fact) Enjoy this racing stuff"" Over 6 Million tune into an F-1 Race, over a Million Tune into a Nascar race. Again if something is childish to you, bugger off and go cruise some other video's tell them How "cooking" is childish. Or Decorating, or tune into gardening if that is more your style. No one comes on here to be called Childish. You tell me what is Childish about 1,200 x 9,400 / 5252 = or 4.5 x 4.5 x 4.6 x 8 x .7845 = go play video games!! john branski
motor???????is it electric?internal combustion means engine
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So you've never had any lifted ring land issues running that rich? I run around 10.8-11.5:1 on a 100 shot and people tell me that's too rich and might lift my ring lands.
Rich is better when you are spraying
+BornToBeFamed not now a days rich is not good for a motor
What do YOU mean by "lift a ring land"? And why do you think that has something to do with running rich?
The gap in the piston where the rings sit lifts up when you run too rich with nitrous as the fuel seeps past the rings and explodes forcing the ring land upward.
Ok, you are attributing an incorrect cause to your problem. That does not happen because of a rich A/F ratio. Most likely what you are actually seeing is a detonation issue or an incorrect ring gap issue for your application. When the ring ends contact each other it will mechanically fracture the top of the piston or you may call it the upper ring land.
I show this to everybody who tells me that nitrous oxide doesn't work.
1850 rpm idle is certainly not a street engine
Holy Ffockkk
My 434 makes 768 hp @ 6900 without nitrous.
how can u get 441 CI outta small block ? im curious
A 400 bore block (4.125" bore) with a stroker crank gives about 427 in a standard 9.025 inch deck. This is a tall deck block, 9.325 inch, probably a 4.125 inch bore and a long stroke crank.
Look into a dart shp block 4" stroke 4.180 bore
Do all the internet know it alls turn out engines for a living as Nelson does? Or just read some stuff from forum drones
will nos hurt a stock motor?
Nawwh!! Load it upp.
how much would this exact engine cost from scratch?
Jonathon Vince 18-20k pretty easy
Build an aftermarket block off the shelf parts 421, spray the house down. I did, trust me, you wont be sorry.
@@johnnymoran1177 what cam are u running in your 421.? If u dont mind me asking. Is it a violent when u hit the nitrous? Looking to change cams in my 434. I hit it with alot and with as much as I'm hitting it with it should be alot more violent or snappier. But I will say theres alot more power left in it. But if I'd change the cam i know it would breath a little better an run better. I understand if u dont wanna share the info But just trying to get some opinions on what NX cams people are running now days
@@WilleJamesHuff you're a dumbass lol
Thats why there is option. NX have the best solenoids. But it all depends on the set-up. To sit here and basically say Nelson is an idiot for choosing NOS on this motor is blasphemy. The spray is the same the only difference is the equipment. Its like the difference between motor oil, engine combination, how its driven, ect.. One is not better than the other on ALL engines.
anything will start and be responsive after being warmed up and it still seems hesitant just saying