This take is probably a hot one, but regardless, what did y'all think of The Creator? I wish you all a wonderful weekend and to my Canadian subs, Happy Thanksgiving!
It dips toes into good ideas, but abandons them for a really simplistic "escort mission" type plot. It's genuinely a shame because the film would be fat more memorable and be performing far better if it had a better script that took advantage of the unique angles it had.
I agree 💯 with the title! It was a beautifully filmed, visually stunning film with top effects .... and a cringy laden, plot hole filled mess of a story. Much like Avatar.
I personally did not find trouble with the plot while watching this film (while in a rather focused state of mind). Would you please be so kind and ask me about the things you saw as being confusing? I’m not saying anyone is right and another wrong, but I’m honestly curious to understand why we all have such different opinions about this movie. It all just made such good sense to me... 😢😢
@@h.l.69 Vex said it better than me, as did another UA-camr called Possum Reviews. I couldn't for the life of me understand why there were so many types of robots, or how they developed personalities, or how the little girl's magic power worked, or in what way she was related to the "hero" or why the USA were the villains, indeed why were humans a problem and what fuelled the robots, and surely all that machinery would have destroyed the environment? If you ever worked in a factory or workshop you'd know some heavy duty chemicals are used. It just made no sense to me but was well filmed, they did a great job on what was evidently a low budget.
@@alsmith9853 Of course, I do not know the real answer to those questions, but this is how I figured it out to be while watching the film: - There were all kinds of robots because as it says in the beginning of the film, they had become so advanced, that they were replacing and fortifying the common labor force. (Robots that worked in banks as security guard, as law enforcement, as military hardware like the bipedal bomb carries, and ones that were just straight out strippers or whatever else could easily be automated, etc) To me, that kinda explained the diversity, since before the accidental nuclear attack on L.A, they indeed literally worked all kinds of jobs among real people. - But you are right, I'm not sure how each of them went on to develop an actual personality used beyond their original jobs. - The little girl (Alpha Omega) was apparently a machine capable of somehow producing strong electromagnetic pulses and controlling other inferior machines without herself becoming affected. It was not exactly explained as to how this could work in real life, but this is what Science Fiction is all about. We must suspend our beliefs if we are to get the very best out of movies within this genre. I always leave asking question till the end of the film if it's sci-fi, so I guess I have forgotten this perspective of being actively rational/critical when it comes to this made up stuff. Though, I do like documentaries most of all... - The accidental nuclear attack commenced by faulty AI happened in the States, in L.A., so naturally they were the ones to choose against the eradication of the now intelligent machines. I guess it was just a simple choice, like in any other story? Usually US is the hero and not the villain, but for once, it was another way around. Also, they make for a great enemy due to their military capability, which was represented quite beautifully in the film. Actually, I don't know if they were even that much of villains? I mean, most of them though that AI had indeed attacked them, without knowing that the attack was actually an incident. Brings an interesting layer to the movie, though quite light? - I guess the rest is kinda the same as that earlier point about "Alphie". It is Sci-fi. You have to get into a certain mood inorder to enjoy it the best. Even the Terminator movies had some highly illogical themes, but that did not matter as long as they were entertaining and convincing enough otherwise. I guess this is what can easily happen when we make movies about the future. Though, having just seen "Pulp Fiction" for the first time, it truly reminded me of how it feels to see an all around great movie. The Creator surely had it's faults, my argument is just that, most of them were not as bad as they were made out to be. But this is all subjective, which of course in the end, makes me the "bag holder". Haha
Gareth Edwards' last three movies seem like they're a good script away from being great. This, Godzilla, and Rogue One all have (or seem to have, in this film's case) really good elements that could've been utilized in conjunction with a good script to produce something special, but each in their own way seems to fall flat.
Nail on the head, Gourdie! If I were a SW fan, I think Rogue One would've swayed me from this. The Creator does have a lot of the same issues Godzilla had, even though I generally liked that film.
I agree with a lot of your points. Strongly agree with the casting of John David. You can tell there is a longer version of this film because in some areas from scene to scene emotions are flipped and its very jarring in its story telling. They really needed to have made the film slightly longer to close out some of the story beats. And tack on some more world building. But hey at least it looked good. And I could easily sit through this again over any disney star wars film.
All of your complaints are valid but non bothered me. This one did bother me. Why were theu bombing the robots instead of using an EMP which would be far more effective and less damage.
Thank you for this. I just got out of this movie today, after going to support original content. And being completely disappointed by something so flat and blatantly emotionally manipulative. I saw reviews saying it was under-appreciated, "masterful" worldbuilding, etc. Ugh. No wonder gaming is eating Hollywood's lunch. They deserve to. I thought this was streaming-level mid. Also, I think the better movies that tackle subjects of artificial humanity were the Bladerunner movies. And I personally think Bladerunner 2049 was very under-appreciated for how it succeeded at that.
Mmm, it feels like this is being given a pity pass because it's not Disney, or a sequel, or _entirely_ The Message. But it's not _not_ The Message either. Not one that's going to tempt me to open my wallet.
It 100% is. The hype around the visuals is indicative of it. The Message is there, but in ways I don't think mainstream audiences will find as ways to identify. I cut this video in half and focused on the biggest problems I had. But it what was left in the scripting room, boy are there more problems with this flick.
@@VexElectronica Well, you inspired me to rewatch District 9, and it's still a corker. Committed, disciplined, a rock solid setting and presentation, and not a moment of slack in it. It's amazing that we didn't get a District 10, given that it grossed 7x its production budget.
One look at the trailer and I was confident I wasn't gonna like this film. I don't get along well with Hollywood sc fi for the most part. they tend to utterly fail at the deeper nuances of worldbuilding. Exceptions are the smaller stories that don't have a broad enough scope to require much worldbuilding, and with it, understanding of how the world works. How does a society centred around highly advanced and even sentient artificial intelligence end up so damn pedestrian? A story where AIs are advanced enough to warrant existential war boils down to an escort quest. That is mind boggling to me. A story like this lives or dies on its worldbuilding. worldbuilding informs everything. culture, geography, history, characters and character relations, technology, combat equipment and tactics, and on and on. The Creator looked utterly hollow in this regard. In large part the story is what it is as a result. I haven't seen the film, so maybe my criticisms are off base. I probably won't see it though, it doesn't look interesting to me. that's coming from someone who loves fantasy and science fiction.
Dude you hit the nail on the head with a lot of these. There was a point I cut from the original script in which the film introduced a new idea, out of left field, that the AI never detonated the LA bomb, but humans did. It's tossed in the like a used Wet Wipe and completely forgotten to try and take away that pedestrianism you mention. This plot and all of its intracacies read too much like an AI wrote it.
@@VexElectronica why thank you. Honestly, I expected there to be some shenanigans with the LA nuking. It's too bizarre even for this level of writing. The film loses points for no one pointing out that it's weird the AIs only nuked the one city if the AIs really were hostile. Unless someone does point it out. I don't expect this film to make anything out of the strange potential implications of the AIs just nuking LA for some reason, but I guess that's possible. It's a bit of a strange action to not be given serious thought by people in-universe.
I@@VexElectronica I just keep in mind that a trailer is just a marketing tool that uses interesting and marketable clips to sell a movie. The trailer doesn't even have to accurately represent the film, it just has to garner interest.
I thought it was okay, but no more than that. Good review and solid critique, thank you! What were your thoughts on the upcoming Rebel Moon, incidentally?
Aww thank you, Fiona! I thought it was OK out of the theatre, but then I started to think about it, and The Creator fell apart. There's a lot more I cut from this video to focus just on the biggest points 😅 The trailer for this film looked more compelling than Rebel Moon. I really dislike Zack Snyder. But that's not stopping me from hoping he'll actually put out something solid.
@@VexElectronica Thank you! I note that Critical Drinker quite liked this one. I think we've mostly had our tastes diluted to the point we see something mediocre as being quite good 😐 But you made very salient points and I think your synopsis is quite correct in the end.
@@Fionalah This is an issue I have with gaming and television as well and I'm noticing a lot of the people I followed for their critiques seem to have their senses dulled. Alternatively, I feel like my take on this would be different if I were a more avid sci-fi fan in general, where I know the genre has been just completely dragged through the mud. Cheers, Fiona!
I did really enjoy the movie. I thought the twist of people being to blame for bad software was weak. They needed a military consultant for some of the action scenes, some really stupid tactics. I thought the pacing was pretty good actually, it gets a little garbled in the third act but gets back on track in the fourth. (I think its 4 acts). That kid is a pretty good actor! The visuals are absolutely beautiful. District 9 for sure has a better plot, and much better character development. The worldbuilding leaves something to be desired.
It's not that bad, it's no the first matrix, or blade runner, or episode 4, or the original animated transformers the move but it's better then most sci fi in the last 10 years
There's a large problem in the latter part of your statement: "better than most sci-fi in the last 10 years". While fundamentally I agree with you, there's still room for sci-fi to innovate and have releases that stand on their own, without comparison to the rest of the genre. The Creator lays the foundation to do that, but then fails miserably in the follow through. As a result, I walked away from it feeling that this film was a dressed-up turd, LOL.
I agree with EnchiladaKid. Not a horrible Sci-fi movie. It never reached it's full potential with the lack of story and character development. The story's world had potential, it was a interesting concept.
@@VexElectronica of course ability, as time goes on storytelling and movie making improves and we have been doing it for over 100 years so by now we should be much better at it than we are not getting worse. It's like star wars or star trek with a long history with strong foundation but somehow doesn't live up to it's full potential.
Gareth Edwards is an exquisite director, I’d suggest watching “monsters” what I’d call a romance in a sci fi setting, but this was ultimately a flat story film. The biggest problem I think this film has is the unnecessary 3rd bottom level of ai/robots, not replicants in the middle including alfie and humans.
I've seen Monsters and thought it was OK. I thought his Godzilla was OK as well. Those movies were by comparison far better than this. Those bottom robots bothered me too, dude. Like it confused me more than anything and muddled the mainline narrative. Cheers bud!
I had high hopes for this, but the sanctimonious tone was nauseating. It's frustrating as it is more refined editing and re-shoots from being a masterpiece, but he has aped the rogue one screenplay which doesen't belong in an ai film Nor did the attempted humour...
The character work is weak, Joshua is basically a cypher, Joshua/Mia is a mystery - what is the attraction, engagement, commitment? Is it as shallow as his mission to get a tracker ring on her? How, exactly, does Alfie's ability work? I like the look of New Asia, but there's an annoying Orientalist trope going on with teh Asians standing for pre-industrial, mystical, and metaphysically attuned inversions of the crass, modern, capitalist and brutal North Americans. The fact that the diegetic dialog is Thai, Hindi, and possibly Vietnamese, is a bit jarring, as is the "wtf is the geography here?" thing of showing a map, then we have beaches and palms, and precipitous peaks all within a stone's throw. It didn't happen often, but I did get flashes of "oh, so it's Rogue One, with a mash of District 9 and Apocalypse Now, and a larding for the Last Airbender over the top".
I agree with your review. I went in wanting to like this movie but felt the logic and writing did not deliver. It dragged a lot of the watch time and I never liked or connected with the main actors. I actually found myself rooting for the Americans who felt like the only characters trying to save the human race.
One thing I don't understand is the geopolitics of The Creator. Why are robots ostracized in the Western World while they are explicitly defended in Asia? Also, why would the nations of East Asia merge into a superstate called New Asia that explicitly revolves around pacifism and human-robot coexistence? Wouldn't there be some kind of Cold War between America and New Asia? How can Americans run around in New Asia like the imperialistic, genocidal jerks they are while New Asia is apparently just powerless before the American war machine? Gareth Edwards really should've done more research on East Asian tradition and even pop culture before he devoted his efforts to The Creator.
It would have been interesting if it was a movie about AI, but it's not. It's another tired white (liberal) savior movie, just with a black actor in the lead.
If you didn't remove the comment yourself, my comment was removed for you. This does happen occasionally. Best wishes on taking over the ytube creator world. Just remember what type of platform this is...
@@VexElectronica I just want to imagine a world where the failing empire taking off its velvet glove to expose its iron fist of censorship would have never happened, and we were free to communicate more than just pleasantries. I remember a time when the chrome was thick and the women were straight. A time before the paranoia of our failing empire. You stay safe, who knows what tomorrow brings, so I'm having as good a time as I can... I hope you set aside some time to have fun too, you're rebranded C19 flu got you too? There seems to have been another release of something, a couple of weeks ago here in NYC ppl got pretty sick too. Grandma got it, I just felt enervated, but it felt different.
@@VexElectronica I assume if it was algos the same statements would bring the same censorship. You on other platforms? Wait I think you're on X. My second comment was censored too, and it was VERY tame. Maybe like a 100k sub creator I got my own human support censorer!?
Dude that's wild! Yeah, I'm on Twitter as well. I haven't seen any of your comments pop up. I'm sorry to see the censorship is tagging you hard, even for mild comments.
@@VexElectronica Uh oh, you don't see my posts on your Golden Turd promo post? You see Mandolango and The Shagsworth posts? They are listed right after mine. Notice this pfp, I have the same for the X pfp. It would be awesome sauce if I'm shadowbanned on X. That would be funny. Never show Musk's satanic "halloween" armor he had as his pfp for months just a better picture of the upside down cross... note for next life 😂
This take is probably a hot one, but regardless, what did y'all think of The Creator?
I wish you all a wonderful weekend and to my Canadian subs, Happy Thanksgiving!
Whenever I see "the child that is the key to everything" I know it is going to suck.
That's the correct answer!!!
That's a shame, I was hoping for something deep and thought provoking, in a good way.
District 9 is a great film.
It's a good B rate sci-fi film, not a masterpiece. If you like cyberpunk works, you might enjoy the world they build.
It dips toes into good ideas, but abandons them for a really simplistic "escort mission" type plot.
It's genuinely a shame because the film would be fat more memorable and be performing far better if it had a better script that took advantage of the unique angles it had.
Chappie was entertaining too.
I agree 💯 with the title! It was a beautifully filmed, visually stunning film with top effects .... and a cringy laden, plot hole filled mess of a story. Much like Avatar.
I personally did not find trouble with the plot while watching this film (while in a rather focused state of mind). Would you please be so kind and ask me about the things you saw as being confusing? I’m not saying anyone is right and another wrong, but I’m honestly curious to understand why we all have such different opinions about this movie. It all just made such good sense to me... 😢😢
@@h.l.69 Vex said it better than me, as did another UA-camr called Possum Reviews. I couldn't for the life of me understand why there were so many types of robots, or how they developed personalities, or how the little girl's magic power worked, or in what way she was related to the "hero" or why the USA were the villains, indeed why were humans a problem and what fuelled the robots, and surely all that machinery would have destroyed the environment? If you ever worked in a factory or workshop you'd know some heavy duty chemicals are used. It just made no sense to me but was well filmed, they did a great job on what was evidently a low budget.
@@alsmith9853
Of course, I do not know the real answer to those questions, but this is how I figured it out to be while watching the film:
- There were all kinds of robots because as it says in the beginning of the film, they had become so advanced, that they were replacing and fortifying the common labor force. (Robots that worked in banks as security guard, as law enforcement, as military hardware like the bipedal bomb carries, and ones that were just straight out strippers or whatever else could easily be automated, etc) To me, that kinda explained the diversity, since before the accidental nuclear attack on L.A, they indeed literally worked all kinds of jobs among real people.
- But you are right, I'm not sure how each of them went on to develop an actual personality used beyond their original jobs.
- The little girl (Alpha Omega) was apparently a machine capable of somehow producing strong electromagnetic pulses and controlling other inferior machines without herself becoming affected. It was not exactly explained as to how this could work in real life, but this is what Science Fiction is all about. We must suspend our beliefs if we are to get the very best out of movies within this genre. I always leave asking question till the end of the film if it's sci-fi, so I guess I have forgotten this perspective of being actively rational/critical when it comes to this made up stuff. Though, I do like documentaries most of all...
- The accidental nuclear attack commenced by faulty AI happened in the States, in L.A., so naturally they were the ones to choose against the eradication of the now intelligent machines. I guess it was just a simple choice, like in any other story? Usually US is the hero and not the villain, but for once, it was another way around. Also, they make for a great enemy due to their military capability, which was represented quite beautifully in the film. Actually, I don't know if they were even that much of villains? I mean, most of them though that AI had indeed attacked them, without knowing that the attack was actually an incident. Brings an interesting layer to the movie, though quite light?
- I guess the rest is kinda the same as that earlier point about "Alphie". It is Sci-fi. You have to get into a certain mood inorder to enjoy it the best. Even the Terminator movies had some highly illogical themes, but that did not matter as long as they were entertaining and convincing enough otherwise. I guess this is what can easily happen when we make movies about the future.
Though, having just seen "Pulp Fiction" for the first time, it truly reminded me of how it feels to see an all around great movie.
The Creator surely had it's faults, my argument is just that, most of them were not as bad as they were made out to be. But this is all subjective, which of course in the end, makes me the "bag holder". Haha
Gareth Edwards' last three movies seem like they're a good script away from being great. This, Godzilla, and Rogue One all have (or seem to have, in this film's case) really good elements that could've been utilized in conjunction with a good script to produce something special, but each in their own way seems to fall flat.
Nail on the head, Gourdie!
If I were a SW fan, I think Rogue One would've swayed me from this.
The Creator does have a lot of the same issues Godzilla had, even though I generally liked that film.
1:07 Yes, 100% agree on that assessment!
Wow you are spots on 100% on how I felt about this movie🤯
I agree with a lot of your points. Strongly agree with the casting of John David. You can tell there is a longer version of this film because in some areas from scene to scene emotions are flipped and its very jarring in its story telling. They really needed to have made the film slightly longer to close out some of the story beats. And tack on some more world building. But hey at least it looked good. And I could easily sit through this again over any disney star wars film.
All of your complaints are valid but non bothered me.
This one did bother me. Why were theu bombing the robots instead of using an EMP which would be far more effective and less damage.
Let's hope there's a director's cut that fixes all these problems 🤞
Fair assessment. Movie was enjoyable. But issues. The ALL WHITE Generals and President declaring the War was typical. Love your stuff.
Thank you for this. I just got out of this movie today, after going to support original content. And being completely disappointed by something so flat and blatantly emotionally manipulative. I saw reviews saying it was under-appreciated, "masterful" worldbuilding, etc. Ugh. No wonder gaming is eating Hollywood's lunch. They deserve to. I thought this was streaming-level mid. Also, I think the better movies that tackle subjects of artificial humanity were the Bladerunner movies. And I personally think Bladerunner 2049 was very under-appreciated for how it succeeded at that.
District 9 was great! Better than The creator.
Best Sci-fi movie is Terminator 1 and 2.
Nothing beats them.
I’ve got to say that I completely disagree with this. Obviously I loved this movie. It was deep & thought provoking & I’m going to see it again.
Mmm, it feels like this is being given a pity pass because it's not Disney, or a sequel, or _entirely_ The Message. But it's not _not_ The Message either. Not one that's going to tempt me to open my wallet.
It 100% is. The hype around the visuals is indicative of it.
The Message is there, but in ways I don't think mainstream audiences will find as ways to identify.
I cut this video in half and focused on the biggest problems I had. But it what was left in the scripting room, boy are there more problems with this flick.
@@VexElectronica Well, you inspired me to rewatch District 9, and it's still a corker. Committed, disciplined, a rock solid setting and presentation, and not a moment of slack in it. It's amazing that we didn't get a District 10, given that it grossed 7x its production budget.
Great review, ill eventually catch it on the high seas..
One look at the trailer and I was confident I wasn't gonna like this film. I don't get along well with Hollywood sc fi for the most part. they tend to utterly fail at the deeper nuances of worldbuilding. Exceptions are the smaller stories that don't have a broad enough scope to require much worldbuilding, and with it, understanding of how the world works.
How does a society centred around highly advanced and even sentient artificial intelligence end up so damn pedestrian? A story where AIs are advanced enough to warrant existential war boils down to an escort quest. That is mind boggling to me.
A story like this lives or dies on its worldbuilding. worldbuilding informs everything. culture, geography, history, characters and character relations, technology, combat equipment and tactics, and on and on.
The Creator looked utterly hollow in this regard. In large part the story is what it is as a result.
I haven't seen the film, so maybe my criticisms are off base. I probably won't see it though, it doesn't look interesting to me. that's coming from someone who loves fantasy and science fiction.
Dude you hit the nail on the head with a lot of these.
There was a point I cut from the original script in which the film introduced a new idea, out of left field, that the AI never detonated the LA bomb, but humans did. It's tossed in the like a used Wet Wipe and completely forgotten to try and take away that pedestrianism you mention.
This plot and all of its intracacies read too much like an AI wrote it.
@@VexElectronica why thank you.
Honestly, I expected there to be some shenanigans with the LA nuking. It's too bizarre even for this level of writing. The film loses points for no one pointing out that it's weird the AIs only nuked the one city if the AIs really were hostile. Unless someone does point it out. I don't expect this film to make anything out of the strange potential implications of the AIs just nuking LA for some reason, but I guess that's possible. It's a bit of a strange action to not be given serious thought by people in-universe.
I didn't trust the trailers, so this review is not all that surprising to me.
Man I wish I didn't fall for them as hard as I did.
I imagine I would've been more hesitant though if I were a Star Wars fan 😅
I@@VexElectronica I just keep in mind that a trailer is just a marketing tool that uses interesting and marketable clips to sell a movie. The trailer doesn't even have to accurately represent the film, it just has to garner interest.
1:40 they were all homeless druggies😂
Great job on this. I really have no desire to see this immediately so this breakdown helps.
Thanks dude!
Not as spicy as what a lot of people are used to from me, but I think it summarizes pretty well with what I know is a spicy take.
@@VexElectronica It clarified what was wrong with the movie perfectly
I thought it was okay, but no more than that. Good review and solid critique, thank you!
What were your thoughts on the upcoming Rebel Moon, incidentally?
Aww thank you, Fiona! I thought it was OK out of the theatre, but then I started to think about it, and The Creator fell apart. There's a lot more I cut from this video to focus just on the biggest points 😅
The trailer for this film looked more compelling than Rebel Moon.
I really dislike Zack Snyder. But that's not stopping me from hoping he'll actually put out something solid.
@@VexElectronica Thank you! I note that Critical Drinker quite liked this one. I think we've mostly had our tastes diluted to the point we see something mediocre as being quite good 😐
But you made very salient points and I think your synopsis is quite correct in the end.
@@Fionalah This is an issue I have with gaming and television as well and I'm noticing a lot of the people I followed for their critiques seem to have their senses dulled.
Alternatively, I feel like my take on this would be different if I were a more avid sci-fi fan in general, where I know the genre has been just completely dragged through the mud.
Cheers, Fiona!
this is elysiu with a black dude
i agree
I did really enjoy the movie. I thought the twist of people being to blame for bad software was weak. They needed a military consultant for some of the action scenes, some really stupid tactics. I thought the pacing was pretty good actually, it gets a little garbled in the third act but gets back on track in the fourth. (I think its 4 acts). That kid is a pretty good actor! The visuals are absolutely beautiful. District 9 for sure has a better plot, and much better character development. The worldbuilding leaves something to be desired.
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Oh this one is going to be juicy and I was looking forward to this film ......😐
No elks? I feel cheated. 😂
No moose in any film makes me feel cheated everyday, Melvin.
It's not that bad, it's no the first matrix, or blade runner, or episode 4, or the original animated transformers the move but it's better then most sci fi in the last 10 years
There's a large problem in the latter part of your statement: "better than most sci-fi in the last 10 years".
While fundamentally I agree with you, there's still room for sci-fi to innovate and have releases that stand on their own, without comparison to the rest of the genre. The Creator lays the foundation to do that, but then fails miserably in the follow through. As a result, I walked away from it feeling that this film was a dressed-up turd, LOL.
I agree with EnchiladaKid. Not a horrible Sci-fi movie. It never reached it's full potential with the lack of story and character development.
The story's world had potential, it was a interesting concept.
@@VexElectronica of course ability, as time goes on storytelling and movie making improves and we have been doing it for over 100 years so by now we should be much better at it than we are not getting worse.
It's like star wars or star trek with a long history with strong foundation but somehow doesn't live up to it's full potential.
Gareth Edwards is an exquisite director, I’d suggest watching “monsters” what I’d call a romance in a sci fi setting, but this was ultimately a flat story film.
The biggest problem I think this film has is the unnecessary 3rd bottom level of ai/robots, not replicants in the middle including alfie and humans.
I've seen Monsters and thought it was OK. I thought his Godzilla was OK as well. Those movies were by comparison far better than this.
Those bottom robots bothered me too, dude. Like it confused me more than anything and muddled the mainline narrative.
Cheers bud!
It feeks like there is deleted scenes. Those droids driving motorcycles and holding funeral pyres etc are wasting resources...
I had high hopes for this, but the sanctimonious tone was nauseating. It's frustrating as it is more refined editing and re-shoots from being a masterpiece, but he has aped the rogue one screenplay which doesen't belong in an ai film
Nor did the attempted humour...
The character work is weak, Joshua is basically a cypher, Joshua/Mia is a mystery - what is the attraction, engagement, commitment? Is it as shallow as his mission to get a tracker ring on her? How, exactly, does Alfie's ability work? I like the look of New Asia, but there's an annoying Orientalist trope going on with teh Asians standing for pre-industrial, mystical, and metaphysically attuned inversions of the crass, modern, capitalist and brutal North Americans. The fact that the diegetic dialog is Thai, Hindi, and possibly Vietnamese, is a bit jarring, as is the "wtf is the geography here?" thing of showing a map, then we have beaches and palms, and precipitous peaks all within a stone's throw.
It didn't happen often, but I did get flashes of "oh, so it's Rogue One, with a mash of District 9 and Apocalypse Now, and a larding for the Last Airbender over the top".
I agree with your review. I went in wanting to like this movie but felt the logic and writing did not deliver. It dragged a lot of the watch time and I never liked or connected with the main actors. I actually found myself rooting for the Americans who felt like the only characters trying to save the human race.
One thing I don't understand is the geopolitics of The Creator. Why are robots ostracized in the Western World while they are explicitly defended in Asia? Also, why would the nations of East Asia merge into a superstate called New Asia that explicitly revolves around pacifism and human-robot coexistence? Wouldn't there be some kind of Cold War between America and New Asia? How can Americans run around in New Asia like the imperialistic, genocidal jerks they are while New Asia is apparently just powerless before the American war machine?
Gareth Edwards really should've done more research on East Asian tradition and even pop culture before he devoted his efforts to The Creator.
Vexie is being harsh today? :)
Avatar is an amazing film.
It would have been interesting if it was a movie about AI, but it's not. It's another tired white (liberal) savior movie, just with a black actor in the lead.
If you didn't remove the comment yourself, my comment was removed for you. This does happen occasionally. Best wishes on taking over the ytube creator world. Just remember what type of platform this is...
What was the comment?!
And thank you Jeff! I appreciate all your support, dude 😎
@@VexElectronica I just want to imagine a world where the failing empire taking off its velvet glove to expose its iron fist of censorship would have never happened, and we were free to communicate more than just pleasantries.
I remember a time when the chrome was thick and the women were straight. A time before the paranoia of our failing empire.
You stay safe, who knows what tomorrow brings, so I'm having as good a time as I can... I hope you set aside some time to have fun too, you're rebranded C19 flu got you too? There seems to have been another release of something, a couple of weeks ago here in NYC ppl got pretty sick too. Grandma got it, I just felt enervated, but it felt different.
@@VexElectronica I assume if it was algos the same statements would bring the same censorship. You on other platforms? Wait I think you're on X. My second comment was censored too, and it was VERY tame. Maybe like a 100k sub creator I got my own human support censorer!?
Dude that's wild! Yeah, I'm on Twitter as well.
I haven't seen any of your comments pop up. I'm sorry to see the censorship is tagging you hard, even for mild comments.
@@VexElectronica Uh oh, you don't see my posts on your Golden Turd promo post? You see Mandolango and The Shagsworth posts? They are listed right after mine. Notice this pfp, I have the same for the X pfp.
It would be awesome sauce if I'm shadowbanned on X. That would be funny. Never show Musk's satanic "halloween" armor he had as his pfp for months just a better picture of the upside down cross... note for next life 😂
1:07 Yes, 100% agree on that assessment!