Really appreciated your interpretation of this movie. Unfortunately a lot of people seem to miss the philosophical depth of the movie, which is sad. The one thing that you miss in your rundown is that "Alfie's" neural pathways were a copy of Maya and Joshua's baby while the child was en utero. Alfie is essentially their daughter. This is why she innately trusts Joshua because he is her "Father" in a unique but definitive way. Of course this is unknown to Joshua initially but is explained by the simulant portrayed be Ken Watanabe to Joshua (and the audience). But it also explains why Joshua couldn't just kill the child. Yes he wanted to find Maya, but he had an innate need to protect the child as if she were his own (which was by design since the basis for her neural pathways was actually that of thier daughter which it would seem the child also had what would had been the physical likeness of their daughter). Secondly there is a moment of clear realization and reckoning for Colonel Howell right before she died as she realized the true goodness of Alfie and the folly of the US war on AI when she saw Alfie try to save her life although she was trying to kill the child; it was zealous actions and ignorance of her soldiers that ultimately resulted in her demise which indicates as is found out in the movie that the West is responsible for it's own troubles. Thirdly the war was a ruse in more ways than one; it was apparent that New Asia's AI tech had surpassed that of the US and it was strongly hinted near the end that the US was studying the tech as it was doing resarch on simulants aboard NOMAD; it was implied throughout the movie simulants were only in New Asia which suggests that the war was also about controlling the technology outright and maintaining hegemony. The crux of the movie's thesis is the deferrence between life whether it be organically or artificially derived once it is sentient is only arbitrary. This movie was masterful in storytelling. I predict that when enough of the people who see it who can truly understand it's depth as well as appreciate it's stunning visuals; it will come to be seen as a classic.
I didn't miss the copy of the baby, but I don't know that I'd go as far as to say that's why Alphie immediately trusted Josh. There's a lot more to that, and the movie doesn't have the time to delve into where that trust came from. I also don't know that I agree that Howell realized the true goodness in Alphie just before death. That is certainly a possibility, but given how she acted the entire film, making such a drastic change in character seems off. You could very well be correct, but I believe that she realized her soldiers attacking would ultimately get her killed, and her reaction was that of someone who didn't want to die. I do think the US wanted to control the AI, but I don't know that it was their main focus. They intentionally stopped developing AI (at least publicly). From that standpoint, it makes more sense that they would be studying the AI in order to better defeat it, which was their public agenda. But I do agree the US was clearly researching AI, not only on NOMAD, but also in the facility near the nuclear blast site. Will The Creator become a classic? It has the potential, but I don't know that people will take the time to understand it. It feels like a modern Blade Runner, but we live in a different time now where people don't try to look for a deeper meaning in most films, especially big CG spectacles like this. I guess I don't have as much faith in people as you do, but I would love to see this become a classic. It's certainly deserving.
I loved every aspect of the movie. My only wish was they fleshed out the "human error" part of the nuke being dropped on LA. Was it simply detonated on accident and the U.S. blame it on A.I.? Or did they somehow program and A.I. unintentionally to create the destruction? I would like to know more about that. Other than that it was a masterpiece imo.
I could also see someone in the US government being anti-AI and detonating the nuke to turn AI into the enemy. Lots of mystery behind that LA nuke that I would like to see fleshed out.
Seemed as though the threat of losing jobs to the Machines was the nexus of the attack,,, though with no proof of what Plot on either side was hatched...
@@TheNerdDoc. Kudos, I saw the film last night and loved it. I am new to your channel. I watched about a dozen commentaries today, and yours was the only one to explore the cross cultural differences in AI training. I think many of the critics a missed this key point, and in many way misunderstood the film. Out of all the channels I looked at today, yours is the only one i subscribed to. Nice work and thanks. 😊
Amazing science fiction here, and very relevant to this point in history. P.S., It is absolutely believable in the movie that the US nuked itself. Since 9/11 all of these US wars have been pointless disasters that cause the opposite of their goals, most of which were never well defined anyway. It would fit that pattern.
Everyone acts like this movie was an attack on the USA, but there a lot of similarities to the Vietnam war. Dehumanizing the enemy, fighting out of fear rather than need, and a healthy dose of PTSD. I cant believe others havnt seemed to pick up on this.
Have to agree, I like the idea that in reality things are not so black and white as good or bad and the movie really makes you consider from an ethical standpoint what is right and what is wrong not simply because the leaders of your country deem it as the right course of action.
It was never said that it could only produce a copy of the person for a limited amount of time. That just happened to be the case for the soldier because he was dead for a while. That's why she was so interested in getting the backup from the woman since she had just passed. The soldier brain had already gone through significant cell death. That's why they were limited in the time they had.
That is correct, but they never said it was infinite time either. To me, the fact that they weren't trying to get a copy of every dead soldier, or even more than just those handful of people implies that it wasn't infinite.
@@TheNerdDoc They had even more advanced tech. They were talking about her beginning her new life, as a simulant, but were all tied up per the Three Laws of Robotics. Right before they were going to implant her into a waiting simulant body, the base got attacked, and Alfie had to do it later.
@@hopeseekr I have to assume you're talking about the monks? Out of curiosity, what dialogue made you think they were going to put her in a new body? They talked about Buddhist beliefs of reincarnation, but I didn't get the impression they had the tech or the intent to actually make that happen. It's why Josh had such a difficult time pulling the plug. He knew she wasn't coming back.
I enjoyed this film a lot, even though there were several plot holes. However, the cinematography, action sequences, special effects and acting were phenomenal. I was especially impressed with country star, Sturgill Simpson as Drew and little Madeleine Voyles as Alphie! They each chewed up the scenery every time they were on screen. Ralph Ineson as General Andrews with his unique, gravelly voice was awesome as well. What was up with his weird glasses though? And any movie that Gemma Chan is in, is worth the price of admission alone, just to see her beauty light up the screen. Its a shame that it didn't fare that well at the box office, it deserves better than it did. Hopefully, it will gain a cult following once it hits VOD and streaming over the next few years. Overall, I give this movie a "B+" grade and will be purchasing the Blue Ray. It's worth repeated viewing over the next decade, or until thr real AI takes us out.
I'm a huge Gareth Edwards fan and was excited about this movie and even saw it early on Thursday. I did "like" it but 3 things really took me out of truly being swept up into the story... 1) the dialog is incredibly bad, it's borderline offensive on how dumbed-down everything is about how characters talk and interact. 2) the spatial and time logistics do not make sense on screen. Examples: things blow up and it doesn't kill people, running distances are wildly inconsistent, supposedly "stealthy" action/soldiers are wearing bright lights and talking at full volume which is not "stealthy" at all. The soldiers, military, and political leaders spoke, acted, and interacted at a middle-school education level, car wrecks that should kill everyone are turned into a punchline, and robots acting like keystone cops in one scene but precise deadly weapons moments later. AND the giant floating ship??? what? so there is just one of these flying in another country's airspace looking to destroy entire villages and it's clearly visible from a hundred miles away and "paints" its target with visible light? come on man, it looked cool but made zero sense. 3) by now we all know that AI is very quick, smart, and capable so why does its abilities seem to be so inconsistent throughout the story? this really created jarring tonal shifts and inconsistent expectations for me. All of that being said - I would like to see more from this universe and to continue the story of AI and mankind living as one. Overall it looked cool and I feel I may have liked it a lot more if I had seen it and all the dialog was in a language I did not understand. I'll try it again but for me, this was a disappointment.
I agree on all points. I'm a little more forgiving with some of the inconsistencies, but I agree that they were kinda bad. The dialogue is where I really wish they put more time into this. I think that's easily the weakest part of the film, along with the lack of explanation about why Asia doesn't have the ability to attack the Nomad.
Absolutely possible. Just remember Vietnam, Korea, Iran, Irak, Afghanistan and… 9/11. Oh, also the current state of their political system, can’t even agree within their own caucus 😒
mos def a scene in the movie that looks like a Full Metal Alchemist scene. wonder if it was an intentional reference. even maya's costume and appearance design gave Winry aura
How did Alphie go from being gravely injured to 100% perfectly fine when she was laying next to the comatose Maya? Who fixed/repaired her? And why did the general decide to send bombs to all the remaining AI strongholds at the end, when they could have done this from the beginning? Also, how is that NOMAD can fly freely across any country's borders, invading their airspace and laying waste to thousands of civilians, without getting attacked by that country's air force?
NOMAD is a satellite that flies in near space. Near space doesn't belong to air territory of any country. You don't need much power to fly in near space. The general knew the bases's location by following Joshua, after he met Nirmira, not in the beginning. If you watched carefully, a soldier told Josha that you are a hero bec you killed Nirmira, found the weapon and found the location of the bases. Alphie is probably fixed at the base
@@doublethree5901 Nah. I don't buy that. NOMAD was flying way too low to be in "near space". People on the ground could see the damn thing coming with their naked eyes. If it were in the upper atmosphere, as you claim, nobody would see it coming. As for the rest of what you said, it was all just word salad. 🥗 🤔
Very well made standalone sci-fi flick, and extremely prescient. A.I. will eventually take us over and destroy us, because we never learn from our mistakes, even when we commit them to celluloid in advance.
I absolutely loved this movie. Can’t wait to own it on Blu-ray. One thing I questioned was why there were simulants that looked like Maya on the NOMAD? Any thoughts on that?
We saw earlier in the film that she allowed her likeness to be used for simulants. There are two lines of thought as to why one of her simulants would be on NOMAD. 1. They were researching simulants, and some of them just happened to use Maya's likeness, with no further connection. 2. Since they knew Maya was their target, they specifically gathered simulants in an effort to potentially use them during an upcoming operation. At the end of the day, they needed a Maya simulant on NOMAD to have that reunion with Josh, so there may never have been a proper explanation for it beyond that story necessity.
What I don’t understand in the movie is why new Asia don’t have the capacity to fight America. They have police but they can’t seem to do anything with nomad and american army rampaging their land. Isn’t there any politics ?
It was to show the stark contrast between the two. Asia didn't seem to have any aerial weaponry that would allow them to attack Nomad directly. They had drones and things of that nature, but nothing more. They focused on developing AI and maturing their minds, while the US focused on military might.
@@TheNerdDoc I get that but isn’t there no policies or politics that disallow America to wreak havoc in their land? Like in real world, you can’t just do something in a foreign land. No one can easily announce war. Anyways, I guess cause it’s a movie anything can happen lol
@@josephinemarquez5953well lol America kinda does go wherever they want. We invaded Iraq who literally did nothing to us and in this movie you have America invading Asia who literally did nothing to America.
@@josephinemarquez5953addition to the answer u got: war on terror (us drone strikes in pakistan and afghanistan), and the bombing on cambodia without declaring war during the vietnam war
I rarely like movies let alone purchase a copy. This movie is a keeper and contains enough fresh material and ideas that will allow for multiple viewings in the future.
I heard them speak bengali in the movie. the ken watanabe was called harun bhai. which is a bengali name. and bhai is brother in bengali. brother harun
@@TheNerdDoc It was revealed that Alphie was a direct scan of Joshua's unborn child with Maya, which I think makes many of his actions plausible. I forgot when this was revealed though, I do agree that Joshua's motivations would be weak prior to the reveal.
I liked the movie 🍿 and after your explanation I like it even more I still wonder if Alphies father was Joshua since Maya was pregnant when they were separated?
@@TheNerdDoc I know man, I’ve put it on FB for people to watch it told all my friends people these days man watch fast n furious 27 won’t watch a new sci-fi IP
Of course. Especially if you feel the only way they would be in that relationship with you is if you keep up the deception. You'd have to live with the moral dilemma though. That could potentially eat away at you over time
She never told him who she was. His actions may have been different. Both of them didn't trust each other with who they really were. Sounds like a lot of marriages to me.
@@Bustaperizm You make a good point. To be fair, he was undercover, and deliberately deceptive from the start. She was just trying to protect herself, her creations, and her father's legacy. They still lied and didn't trust one another, but I think her deception was a bit more acceptable
I loved the movie, but I got a little confused by the ending. If Joshua died and was in Heaven at the end, why were there explosions while he was embracing Maya? Was the whole thing in his head?
If I understand your question correctly, Josh died on the Nomad as he was embracing Grace. Grace didn't die at that point because she was already dead, and her simulant would've died soon anyway because they have a limited lifefspan when a brain is transferred in that way. If that's not what you were asking let me know and I'll try to clarify better
I think it's a lack of Asian leading men in Hollywood as a whole. Can't have those interracial relationships if you don't even have an Asian leading man.
Answer to the us nuke question, the United States has made many mistakes resulting in Innocent American/etc Citizens to “turn off” and because they feared losing favor of the American taxpayers, they push the blame on someone else. It’s a classic manipulative tactic governments have used throughout time, and I’m quite confident, that while building the nomad, somehow a nuke fell from it, and “coincidentally” hit the only city below the Nomad… Assessing the damage they realized all the tax payer money they would lose, they blamed the robots, because as they say throughout the US preach “They aren’t real” and “they have no feelings” making them seem unpredictable. The end, thank you for reading my theory based many American caused tragedy *clears throat* 🏢🏢✈️✈️👀
There's a scene in the movie at the bus stop where there's a sign that clearly states "Free Wi-Fi". So your entire premise that there is no internet is either wrong, or the term "Wi-Fi" in this alternate timeline means something completely different.
Yeah, in my opinion a mix of Chappie, Elysium and iRobot. Wrapped with Blade Runner and Apocalypse Now. For me the creator felt like a scifi-patchwork without depth 😕
I see this movie 100% different than everyone, and I think I am right and you all are wrong. Correct, they state they cannot kill the Nirmata... but it doesn't mean they can't kill humans. As a matter of fact, the AI/Robots kill or try to kill plenty of humans in this movie. The child figures out quickly it can use human's empathy and emotions to get what it wants. You see this throughout the movie as it uses emotions to get what it wants. The child is also made to serve one goal, and that is to destroy the space station. It therefore uses it's ability to manipulate her "father" throughout the movie to obtain this goal. Then at the very end. You see her programmed crying turn into a smile and laughter after the child realizes it has won. At best case, at the end, the remaining humans on Earth are dependant on the child to alllow them to survive. At worst.. the child is now an unstoppable super weapon and the smile at the end was it realizing it won. I feel I am right about this, as if you take this from a programming view.. the child clearly was made with one task to complete. It isn't human, so it can't change it's task, etc.. And the fact it completes it's task, makes me think it knew what it was doing up until that point. I dunno.. just how I see it. I am surprised more people don't see it this way. Oh, I will add, if I am right.. and the fact most people watching this movie think it has a happy ending.. leads me to worry about our future with AI and how easily people can be manipulated to do horrible things to other humans by it.
The theory is relatively sound, but it does have some holes. For instance, if that was the case, why did they wait for the military invasion before the child started her mission? What was preventing her from starting her mission long before that time? Also, why did the child allow itself to get taken by the military toward the end? Going by your theory, it left a lot of chance to Josh saving her and taking her up to the space station. She also seemed to very much care about Josh dying on the space station, when at that point her emotion was no longer necessary as the destruction of the Nomad was guaranteed.
@@TheNerdDoc I think maybe the Robots/AI knew getting up to the space station was completely impossible without human assistance. So maybe they created this plan and then somehow influenced the humans to send the father, as he was really the secret weapon, to kick off the plan to get the bomb, the girl, on the space station. It does leave a lot of, if they only did this or that, to the plan's failure. But maybe the AI calculated the risk and decided it was worth it. Thus, why the child allowed itself to be taken once it knew it sowed the seeds for the next stage of the plan. Hence the road trip with dad and not an initial surrender. As for the crying after the destruction of the Nomad was guaranteed.. that is the one flaw that kind of sticks. We could think the child wanted to leave her "father" with a nice memory that he won... but that would mean the robot cares, etc.. Which totally then destroys the rest of this take. You could think maybe the child needs time to switch emotions.. it isn't an on/off switch. But that isn't likely. So I admit.. that last scene on the space station is a problem to my interpetation. If it wasn't for that last one scene between child/father.. I would 100% be sure of my take.
@@bschuler It's a good analysis either way. It would be nice to get more perspective on the film from the writer or director, but it doesn't seem like we'll get that, or any kind of sequel
No insight? Did you comment on the wrong video? I offered insight into the world of the movie, explained the ending, and even went over some of the more important plot points. What kind of insight were you looking for that was not in this video?
Really appreciated your interpretation of this movie. Unfortunately a lot of people seem to miss the philosophical depth of the movie, which is sad. The one thing that you miss in your rundown is that "Alfie's" neural pathways were a copy of Maya and Joshua's baby while the child was en utero. Alfie is essentially their daughter. This is why she innately trusts Joshua because he is her "Father" in a unique but definitive way. Of course this is unknown to Joshua initially but is explained by the simulant portrayed be Ken Watanabe to Joshua (and the audience). But it also explains why Joshua couldn't just kill the child. Yes he wanted to find Maya, but he had an innate need to protect the child as if she were his own (which was by design since the basis for her neural pathways was actually that of thier daughter which it would seem the child also had what would had been the physical likeness of their daughter). Secondly there is a moment of clear realization and reckoning for Colonel Howell right before she died as she realized the true goodness of Alfie and the folly of the US war on AI when she saw Alfie try to save her life although she was trying to kill the child; it was zealous actions and ignorance of her soldiers that ultimately resulted in her demise which indicates as is found out in the movie that the West is responsible for it's own troubles. Thirdly the war was a ruse in more ways than one; it was apparent that New Asia's AI tech had surpassed that of the US and it was strongly hinted near the end that the US was studying the tech as it was doing resarch on simulants aboard NOMAD; it was implied throughout the movie simulants were only in New Asia which suggests that the war was also about controlling the technology outright and maintaining hegemony. The crux of the movie's thesis is the deferrence between life whether it be organically or artificially derived once it is sentient is only arbitrary. This movie was masterful in storytelling. I predict that when enough of the people who see it who can truly understand it's depth as well as appreciate it's stunning visuals; it will come to be seen as a classic.
I didn't miss the copy of the baby, but I don't know that I'd go as far as to say that's why Alphie immediately trusted Josh. There's a lot more to that, and the movie doesn't have the time to delve into where that trust came from.
I also don't know that I agree that Howell realized the true goodness in Alphie just before death. That is certainly a possibility, but given how she acted the entire film, making such a drastic change in character seems off. You could very well be correct, but I believe that she realized her soldiers attacking would ultimately get her killed, and her reaction was that of someone who didn't want to die.
I do think the US wanted to control the AI, but I don't know that it was their main focus. They intentionally stopped developing AI (at least publicly). From that standpoint, it makes more sense that they would be studying the AI in order to better defeat it, which was their public agenda. But I do agree the US was clearly researching AI, not only on NOMAD, but also in the facility near the nuclear blast site.
Will The Creator become a classic? It has the potential, but I don't know that people will take the time to understand it. It feels like a modern Blade Runner, but we live in a different time now where people don't try to look for a deeper meaning in most films, especially big CG spectacles like this. I guess I don't have as much faith in people as you do, but I would love to see this become a classic. It's certainly deserving.
The last 3 seconds of this movie!! The best acting I've ever witnesses, and from a child, utterly off the charts. Literally gave me an emotion.
I would love a sequel.
As a Vietnamese who just see this movie, I can confirm that some characters do speak Vietnamese. Like Veronica Ngo 's character.
Unfortunately the USA is capable of............yes
I loved every aspect of the movie. My only wish was they fleshed out the "human error" part of the nuke being dropped on LA. Was it simply detonated on accident and the U.S. blame it on A.I.? Or did they somehow program and A.I. unintentionally to create the destruction? I would like to know more about that. Other than that it was a masterpiece imo.
I could also see someone in the US government being anti-AI and detonating the nuke to turn AI into the enemy. Lots of mystery behind that LA nuke that I would like to see fleshed out.
How about the fact that one scene was a direct usage of footage of the Beirut explosion slightly digitally altered?
Seemed as though the threat of losing jobs to the Machines was the nexus of the attack,,, though with no proof of what Plot on either side was hatched...
That lil girl was precious
She did so well in the movie. Really great casting there.
The local language spoken in the movie is Thai with mix of northern, north eastern and central dialects.
The language is Thai, to be more specific mostly are spoken in Northeastern part language of Thailand.
Thank you for the correction!
@@TheNerdDoc. Kudos, I saw the film last night and loved it. I am new to your channel. I watched about a dozen commentaries today, and yours was the only one to explore the cross cultural differences in AI training. I think many of the critics a missed this key point, and in many way misunderstood the film. Out of all the channels I looked at today, yours is the only one i subscribed to. Nice work and thanks. 😊
Both North and Northeastern dialects.
Amazing science fiction here, and very relevant to this point in history.
P.S., It is absolutely believable in the movie that the US nuked itself. Since 9/11 all of these US wars have been pointless disasters that cause the opposite of their goals, most of which were never well defined anyway. It would fit that pattern.
And LA would be the perfect target if the world in the movie is like ours. LA needs to go.
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THIS MOVIE HAS A LOT OF TRUTH TO IT. I REALLY LOVED IT.
Everyone acts like this movie was an attack on the USA, but there a lot of similarities to the Vietnam war. Dehumanizing the enemy, fighting out of fear rather than need, and a healthy dose of PTSD. I cant believe others havnt seemed to pick up on this.
It was almost a carbon copy of the Vietnam War. I thought that was pretty straightforward.
@TheNerdDoc Right?! Apparently not given a lot of comments I've read
@@TheNerdDoc Absolutely. Nuking LA was the equivalent of the Tonkin Gulf Incident.
Have to agree, I like the idea that in reality things are not so black and white as good or bad and the movie really makes you consider from an ethical standpoint what is right and what is wrong not simply because the leaders of your country deem it as the right course of action.
U can't dehumanize a ROBOT LMAA9
It was never said that it could only produce a copy of the person for a limited amount of time. That just happened to be the case for the soldier because he was dead for a while. That's why she was so interested in getting the backup from the woman since she had just passed. The soldier brain had already gone through significant cell death. That's why they were limited in the time they had.
That is correct, but they never said it was infinite time either. To me, the fact that they weren't trying to get a copy of every dead soldier, or even more than just those handful of people implies that it wasn't infinite.
@@TheNerdDoc They had been scanning Maya for five years. They obviously had a full map of her neural network (brain/mind) ala Replicants.
@@hopeseekr Who? The monks? What makes you think they had the same tech the US military had?
@@TheNerdDoc They had even more advanced tech. They were talking about her beginning her new life, as a simulant, but were all tied up per the Three Laws of Robotics. Right before they were going to implant her into a waiting simulant body, the base got attacked, and Alfie had to do it later.
@@hopeseekr I have to assume you're talking about the monks? Out of curiosity, what dialogue made you think they were going to put her in a new body?
They talked about Buddhist beliefs of reincarnation, but I didn't get the impression they had the tech or the intent to actually make that happen. It's why Josh had such a difficult time pulling the plug. He knew she wasn't coming back.
New Asia mostly speaks Thai and most of the scenes are filmed in Thailand.
I loved this movie it made me cry at the end
I enjoyed this film a lot, even though there were several plot holes. However, the cinematography, action sequences, special effects and acting were phenomenal.
I was especially impressed with country star, Sturgill Simpson as Drew and little Madeleine Voyles as Alphie! They each chewed up the scenery every time they were on screen.
Ralph Ineson as General Andrews with his unique, gravelly voice was awesome as well. What was up with his weird glasses though? And any movie that Gemma Chan is in, is worth the price of admission alone, just to see her beauty light up the screen.
Its a shame that it didn't fare that well at the box office, it deserves better than it did. Hopefully, it will gain a cult following once it hits VOD and streaming over the next few years.
Overall, I give this movie a "B+" grade and will be purchasing the Blue Ray. It's worth repeated viewing over the next decade, or until thr real AI takes us out.
I'm a huge Gareth Edwards fan and was excited about this movie and even saw it early on Thursday. I did "like" it but 3 things really took me out of truly being swept up into the story...
1) the dialog is incredibly bad, it's borderline offensive on how dumbed-down everything is about how characters talk and interact.
2) the spatial and time logistics do not make sense on screen. Examples: things blow up and it doesn't kill people, running distances are wildly inconsistent, supposedly "stealthy" action/soldiers are wearing bright lights and talking at full volume which is not "stealthy" at all. The soldiers, military, and political leaders spoke, acted, and interacted at a middle-school education level, car wrecks that should kill everyone are turned into a punchline, and robots acting like keystone cops in one scene but precise deadly weapons moments later. AND the giant floating ship??? what? so there is just one of these flying in another country's airspace looking to destroy entire villages and it's clearly visible from a hundred miles away and "paints" its target with visible light? come on man, it looked cool but made zero sense.
3) by now we all know that AI is very quick, smart, and capable so why does its abilities seem to be so inconsistent throughout the story? this really created jarring tonal shifts and inconsistent expectations for me.
All of that being said - I would like to see more from this universe and to continue the story of AI and mankind living as one.
Overall it looked cool and I feel I may have liked it a lot more if I had seen it and all the dialog was in a language I did not understand. I'll try it again but for me, this was a disappointment.
I agree on all points. I'm a little more forgiving with some of the inconsistencies, but I agree that they were kinda bad. The dialogue is where I really wish they put more time into this. I think that's easily the weakest part of the film, along with the lack of explanation about why Asia doesn't have the ability to attack the Nomad.
Absolutely possible. Just remember Vietnam, Korea, Iran, Irak, Afghanistan and… 9/11. Oh, also the current state of their political system, can’t even agree within their own caucus 😒
Yep. In many ways the movie felt like a parallel to Vietnam
Dude I loved this. Great job 👏 😊
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it
We appreciate your insights. Keep up the good work as always.
Thank you so much! Your comments are always appreciated :)
@@TheNerdDocthe creator is such a breathtaking movie
@@rufarojunior Best original sci-fi movie in a long while. It's a shame it doesn't seem to be doing well at the box office
mos def a scene in the movie that looks like a Full Metal Alchemist scene. wonder if it was an intentional reference. even maya's costume and appearance design gave Winry aura
I'd love to think Gareth Edwards is a fan of FMA. The references certainly seem to be there
Asian languages spoken are Thai, Japanese and some Indian language.
I picked up on the small amount of Japanese. Thank you for the clarification on the others.
Hindi was also spoken.
Viet is spoken and new Asian dialect is a fusion of other languages with Vietnamese tones.
Indonesian is also spoken briefly, by the monk who let Joshua pass into Nirmata's mountain temple.
The Creator was enough - no need for a sequel.
How did Alphie go from being gravely injured to 100% perfectly fine when she was laying next to the comatose Maya? Who fixed/repaired her?
And why did the general decide to send bombs to all the remaining AI strongholds at the end, when they could have done this from the beginning?
Also, how is that NOMAD can fly freely across any country's borders, invading their airspace and laying waste to thousands of civilians, without getting attacked by that country's air force?
Very good plot hole points. I wanna know too.
NOMAD is a satellite that flies in near space. Near space doesn't belong to air territory of any country. You don't need much power to fly in near space. The general knew the bases's location by following Joshua, after he met Nirmira, not in the beginning. If you watched carefully, a soldier told Josha that you are a hero bec you killed Nirmira, found the weapon and found the location of the bases. Alphie is probably fixed at the base
@@doublethree5901 Nah. I don't buy that. NOMAD was flying way too low to be in "near space". People on the ground could see the damn thing coming with their naked eyes. If it were in the upper atmosphere, as you claim, nobody would see it coming. As for the rest of what you said, it was all just word salad. 🥗 🤔
Very well made standalone sci-fi flick, and extremely prescient. A.I. will eventually take us over and destroy us, because we never learn from our mistakes, even when we commit them to celluloid in advance.
I agree. We're doomed.
I absolutely loved this movie. Can’t wait to own it on Blu-ray. One thing I questioned was why there were simulants that looked like Maya on the NOMAD? Any thoughts on that?
We saw earlier in the film that she allowed her likeness to be used for simulants. There are two lines of thought as to why one of her simulants would be on NOMAD.
1. They were researching simulants, and some of them just happened to use Maya's likeness, with no further connection.
2. Since they knew Maya was their target, they specifically gathered simulants in an effort to potentially use them during an upcoming operation.
At the end of the day, they needed a Maya simulant on NOMAD to have that reunion with Josh, so there may never have been a proper explanation for it beyond that story necessity.
Movie was dope. How do I move to New Asia.
Right?! 😅
This movie was fantastic and this review was hands down the best on the movie that I’ve seen yet. I’d love to see a sequel
What I don’t understand in the movie is why new Asia don’t have the capacity to fight America. They have police but they can’t seem to do anything with nomad and american army rampaging their land. Isn’t there any politics ?
It was to show the stark contrast between the two. Asia didn't seem to have any aerial weaponry that would allow them to attack Nomad directly. They had drones and things of that nature, but nothing more. They focused on developing AI and maturing their minds, while the US focused on military might.
@@TheNerdDoc I get that but isn’t there no policies or politics that disallow America to wreak havoc in their land? Like in real world, you can’t just do something in a foreign land. No one can easily announce war. Anyways, I guess cause it’s a movie anything can happen lol
@@josephinemarquez5953well lol America kinda does go wherever they want. We invaded Iraq who literally did nothing to us and in this movie you have America invading Asia who literally did nothing to America.
@@frankie8387 true that 💯
@@josephinemarquez5953addition to the answer u got: war on terror (us drone strikes in pakistan and afghanistan), and the bombing on cambodia without declaring war during the vietnam war
I rarely like movies let alone purchase a copy. This movie is a keeper and contains enough fresh material and ideas that will allow for multiple viewings in the future.
My folks and I loved it!
Just was one of the greatest movies ever made in my opinion. I absolutely loved it
Masterpiece for sensitive people and Buddhists , rest will barely understand philosophy.
Unfortunately, I have to agree
I heard them speak bengali in the movie. the ken watanabe was called harun bhai. which is a bengali name. and bhai is brother in bengali. brother harun
Vietnamese was spoken from the female soldier. Most of that region was used in the movie.
I found the motivations for Joshua Taylor to be rather weak.
I can agree with that. His connection to his "child" was not strong enough to warrant many of his actions
@@TheNerdDoc It was revealed that Alphie was a direct scan of Joshua's unborn child with Maya, which I think makes many of his actions plausible. I forgot when this was revealed though, I do agree that Joshua's motivations would be weak prior to the reveal.
I liked the movie 🍿 and after your explanation I like it even more
I still wonder if Alphies father was Joshua since Maya was pregnant when they were separated?
13:05 yes and if you search “Broken Arrow” you’ll be kinda surprised it hasn’t happened already.
Loved it need more stuff liked this.
It's a shame it's not doing well at the box office 😔
@@TheNerdDoc I know man, I’ve put it on FB for people to watch it told all my friends people these days man watch fast n furious 27 won’t watch a new sci-fi IP
YES to a sequel!❤
It is not Vietnamese lang, it is mostly Thai.
Can you be in love with someone you are willfully deceiving in order to have a relationship? 🤗
Of course. Especially if you feel the only way they would be in that relationship with you is if you keep up the deception. You'd have to live with the moral dilemma though. That could potentially eat away at you over time
She never told him who she was. His actions may have been different. Both of them didn't trust each other with who they really were.
Sounds like a lot of marriages to me.
@@Bustaperizm You make a good point. To be fair, he was undercover, and deliberately deceptive from the start. She was just trying to protect herself, her creations, and her father's legacy. They still lied and didn't trust one another, but I think her deception was a bit more acceptable
Yes
I completely missed that the nuke was activated by the USA itself. When did they mention that?
When Josh was with Harun (Ken Watanabe) late in the movie, he told him what really happened in LA. It was maybe two lines of dialogue, so easy to miss
Amazing film ....
I loved the movie, but I got a little confused by the ending. If Joshua died and was in Heaven at the end, why were there explosions while he was embracing Maya? Was the whole thing in his head?
If I understand your question correctly, Josh died on the Nomad as he was embracing Grace. Grace didn't die at that point because she was already dead, and her simulant would've died soon anyway because they have a limited lifefspan when a brain is transferred in that way. If that's not what you were asking let me know and I'll try to clarify better
I think we have enough of movies with white/black dude with Asian chicks.
How about movies with Asian men with white/black chicks ?
I think it's a lack of Asian leading men in Hollywood as a whole. Can't have those interracial relationships if you don't even have an Asian leading man.
Loved it
They used actual footage of the Beirut explosion, adding a few digital elements that do not mask their distasteful decision.
9/11, iraq bombing in every freaking movie
Answer to the us nuke question, the United States has made many mistakes resulting in Innocent American/etc Citizens to “turn off” and because they feared losing favor of the American taxpayers, they push the blame on someone else. It’s a classic manipulative tactic governments have used throughout time, and I’m quite confident, that while building the nomad, somehow a nuke fell from it, and “coincidentally” hit the only city below the Nomad… Assessing the damage they realized all the tax payer money they would lose, they blamed the robots, because as they say throughout the US preach “They aren’t real” and “they have no feelings” making them seem unpredictable. The end, thank you for reading my theory based many American caused tragedy *clears throat* 🏢🏢✈️✈️👀
I loved this movie💯
Sequel please
Sequel or at least something set in that same world, even if it's not a direct sequel
Does this movie really need an explanation of the end?
no but honestly i’m just looking for answers on what that head device thing is
I loved the movie highkey
I enjoyed it. It wasn't perfect, but I think it's much better than it had any right to be
Some language and songs in Bahasa Indonesia
Is it just me, or is The Creator just another way of telling the Avatar story ?
You think so? It felt like a new take on a traditional war story. What part of it felt like Avatar to you?
There's a scene in the movie at the bus stop where there's a sign that clearly states "Free Wi-Fi". So your entire premise that there is no internet is either wrong, or the term "Wi-Fi" in this alternate timeline means something completely different.
I think it's the latter. Because if wi-fi exists as we know it, then the plot as a whole completely falls apart.
Sounds a lot like Chappie
I never saw Chappie. Was it good?
@@TheNerdDoc very good, good watch for sci-fans . 7 out of 10
@@carmelosgro6413 Doesn't look like it's streaming anywhere for free. Might have to rent it and check it out. Thanks!
Yeah, in my opinion a mix of Chappie, Elysium and iRobot. Wrapped with Blade Runner and Apocalypse Now. For me the creator felt like a scifi-patchwork without depth 😕
Yes
This movie suckdd so bad.
I'm conflicted on the ending. Am I supposed to be happy that AI wins and can go on to nuke another American city by mistake? Cool visuals though
The AI didn't nuke Los Angeles at all. It was human error that nuked LA
@@TheNerdDoc Oh gotcha. Where in the movie did that come up? Must have missed that
@@camgrant1318When Joshua was captured by Harun on the boat
I see this movie 100% different than everyone, and I think I am right and you all are wrong. Correct, they state they cannot kill the Nirmata... but it doesn't mean they can't kill humans. As a matter of fact, the AI/Robots kill or try to kill plenty of humans in this movie. The child figures out quickly it can use human's empathy and emotions to get what it wants. You see this throughout the movie as it uses emotions to get what it wants. The child is also made to serve one goal, and that is to destroy the space station. It therefore uses it's ability to manipulate her "father" throughout the movie to obtain this goal. Then at the very end. You see her programmed crying turn into a smile and laughter after the child realizes it has won. At best case, at the end, the remaining humans on Earth are dependant on the child to alllow them to survive. At worst.. the child is now an unstoppable super weapon and the smile at the end was it realizing it won. I feel I am right about this, as if you take this from a programming view.. the child clearly was made with one task to complete. It isn't human, so it can't change it's task, etc.. And the fact it completes it's task, makes me think it knew what it was doing up until that point. I dunno.. just how I see it. I am surprised more people don't see it this way. Oh, I will add, if I am right.. and the fact most people watching this movie think it has a happy ending.. leads me to worry about our future with AI and how easily people can be manipulated to do horrible things to other humans by it.
The theory is relatively sound, but it does have some holes. For instance, if that was the case, why did they wait for the military invasion before the child started her mission? What was preventing her from starting her mission long before that time? Also, why did the child allow itself to get taken by the military toward the end? Going by your theory, it left a lot of chance to Josh saving her and taking her up to the space station. She also seemed to very much care about Josh dying on the space station, when at that point her emotion was no longer necessary as the destruction of the Nomad was guaranteed.
@@TheNerdDoc I think maybe the Robots/AI knew getting up to the space station was completely impossible without human assistance. So maybe they created this plan and then somehow influenced the humans to send the father, as he was really the secret weapon, to kick off the plan to get the bomb, the girl, on the space station. It does leave a lot of, if they only did this or that, to the plan's failure. But maybe the AI calculated the risk and decided it was worth it. Thus, why the child allowed itself to be taken once it knew it sowed the seeds for the next stage of the plan. Hence the road trip with dad and not an initial surrender. As for the crying after the destruction of the Nomad was guaranteed.. that is the one flaw that kind of sticks. We could think the child wanted to leave her "father" with a nice memory that he won... but that would mean the robot cares, etc.. Which totally then destroys the rest of this take. You could think maybe the child needs time to switch emotions.. it isn't an on/off switch. But that isn't likely. So I admit.. that last scene on the space station is a problem to my interpetation. If it wasn't for that last one scene between child/father.. I would 100% be sure of my take.
@@bschuler It's a good analysis either way. It would be nice to get more perspective on the film from the writer or director, but it doesn't seem like we'll get that, or any kind of sequel
This movie is trash
No insight. What's the point of the video?
No insight? Did you comment on the wrong video? I offered insight into the world of the movie, explained the ending, and even went over some of the more important plot points. What kind of insight were you looking for that was not in this video?
Ending Explained....lol nothing to explain or somethig compicated . the film was stupid full of plot holes and unrealistic build as universe ...