Dr. Ratio & Alhaitham are NOT THE SAME: Character Analysis [Philosophical Influences]

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  • Опубліковано 27 лис 2024

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  • @doityourselfa
    @doityourselfa 6 місяців тому +167

    THANK YOU im glad someone can see further than the shallow optics of "buff scholar". i mean, the comparison is what got me into star rail in the first place, but i'm glad that discussion is being had. i also wonder, one of ratio's defining characteristics is the fact that he wasn't gazed upon by nous (due, most likely by his belief that knowledge is for everyone and his pursuit to raise the floor and allow access for all), do you think alhaitham _could_ be chosen by nous if he were in star rail? he certainly has the intelligence and self centeredness for it. idk something i've been thinking about

    • @dorsalfinlive
      @dorsalfinlive  6 місяців тому +32

      Being tired of the excessive buff scholar comparisons is why I was inspired to make this video! Also that’s a really interesting question about nous, I think I agree that he fits the standard a lot better than ratio. I’ll have to think about that more.

    • @brightlight8852
      @brightlight8852 4 місяці тому +6

      Being chosen by Nous is not about being smart it's about pursuing a science without any care for anything else.

    • @pepita2437
      @pepita2437 4 місяці тому +19

      do you think alhaitham could be chosen by nous if he were in star rail?
      Alhaitham has no ambition to be something more than he is, and he has no ambition to be recongnized for his intellect. He got his vision, and he kept it in a box, because he literally had no use for it. :) So even if he was chosen by nous, he porobably wouldn't care about it. Just like he didn;t really care when he got his vision, or when he was chosen to be the next Grand Sage.
      He also has no ambition for sharing his knowledge. He will do it if specifically was asked by one of the people he considers to be close with (Collei, Paimon) but he doesn't go out of his way to 'spread' knowledge.

  • @pepita2437
    @pepita2437 4 місяці тому +61

    Huh. This was actually a very interesting analisis.
    Tho Alhaitham does put emphasis on the concept of 'truth' just like Ratio. Alhaitham does not make compromises regarding the 'truth' and he is considered an annoying/rude character because of this. He is not faraid to challenege/offend people to tell the truth, even tho he rarely goes out of his way todo so (regardless it happens very often)
    This is why Alhaitham and Kaveh went their separate ways. Alhaitham did offend Kaveh pretty much with the truth.

  • @yoyosamyo4351
    @yoyosamyo4351 10 місяців тому +38

    Very good video 👍 I did see a lot of similarities between the two but I personally think dr ratio is more distinct than althiethem personality wise

    • @dorsalfinlive
      @dorsalfinlive  10 місяців тому +1

      I’m glad you enjoyed it! I agree very similar but also very different

  • @PersonWhoseNicknamedL
    @PersonWhoseNicknamedL 2 місяці тому +19

    I always thought of Ratio as my personal Socrates: sometimes annoying, but also truth revealer and nice overall.

  • @_Kura.
    @_Kura. 2 місяці тому +7

    Am i the only one who never even considered alhaitham and ratio's similarities- to me they always seemed pretty vastly different in personality but idk 😭

  • @azreal6435
    @azreal6435 5 місяців тому +37

    Pretty good video. I only wish it were longer. These characters are very interesting. Looking forward to your covering Eastern Philosophy in Genshin.

    • @dorsalfinlive
      @dorsalfinlive  5 місяців тому +3

      Thanks! I do see a lot of Eastern philosophy’s influences, but admittedly my knowledge of these philosophies is not as solid yet. I hope to work toward covering that eventually tho, a discussion centric video could work for a topic I’m not quite as familiar with!

  • @inumaki3622
    @inumaki3622 5 місяців тому +11

    I loved the analysis of this video between both characters, it was pretty interesting!! learned a lot from it, and I do like Dr. Ratio more, he seems more friendly than Alhaitham

  • @samaeldiabo
    @samaeldiabo 5 місяців тому +11

    WHY DOES THIS VIDEO ONLY HAS 800 VIEWS? this is so interesting. i feel like this video was made for me, you put into words exactly what i was thinking when people started to compare them

  • @ebbiebean9385
    @ebbiebean9385 День тому

    I think the biggest difference between Alhaitham and Ratio is that Al is a scholar, and Ratio is an educator. While Al is in pursuit of knowledge, Ratio has already reached the pinnacle of knowledge and plans to spread it.

  • @bunnybenadryl
    @bunnybenadryl 6 місяців тому +13

    THIS IS SO GOOD WHATTT

  • @HydraulicPressedWatermelon
    @HydraulicPressedWatermelon 2 місяці тому +2

    say it louder.. SAY IT LOUDER!!

  • @ingang8817
    @ingang8817 7 місяців тому +16

    They're not the same even though both are scholars. I prefer Alhaitham's personality much more than Dr. Ratio.

    • @dorsalfinlive
      @dorsalfinlive  7 місяців тому +8

      I’m glad to see that others find their personalities distinct!

  • @Sanjana679
    @Sanjana679 7 місяців тому +4

    Loved your video! I completely agree with your points about both characters! Honestly I love them both for different reasons!

    • @dorsalfinlive
      @dorsalfinlive  7 місяців тому

      thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • @anaplaysstuff
    @anaplaysstuff 3 місяці тому +1

    I found this video really interesting! It's certainly a take and a perspective I haven't seen form anyone else so that's cool. :)

  • @crystalocelot1641
    @crystalocelot1641 14 днів тому

    THANK YOU right I wish people would stop mischaracterising ratio to fit into the stereotypes of alhaithem and vice versa

    • @dorsalfinlive
      @dorsalfinlive  14 днів тому

      I tend to have a lot of unpopular opinions about character comparisons so it’s always nice to see others agree :)

  • @lovenike8284
    @lovenike8284 4 місяці тому +5

    okie i have to sub cuz ur educational AND funny. amazing analysis of things, although it felt a bit fast... but its also 1 am where im at so maybe im just a tad bit too tired rn to follow as quickly as i should be able to 😅

    • @dorsalfinlive
      @dorsalfinlive  28 днів тому +1

      many thanks! and I appreciate the feedback, defiantly not just a you thing, taking things to quickly is one of my greatest weaknesses, definitely something I'm working on! Sorry my reply to this comment took so long :)

    • @lovenike8284
      @lovenike8284 26 днів тому

      @@dorsalfinlive don't even worry about, after rewatching this (cuz it's just that good) and being awake enough for once, I was defo ae keep up this time so it all good 🥰👍💯💯💯

  • @jenny3742
    @jenny3742 5 місяців тому +9

    Hey i enjoyed your analysis and I also enjoy Dr ratio's naked armpit

  • @bangtanssera
    @bangtanssera 3 місяці тому +3

    they are different at the bare minimum of the fact that alhaitham in genshin represents one male non playable character with signature silver with slight highlights hair, they are like raiden ei and raiden mei while dr ration has different looks. I have no idea why people starting obsessing over the comparison which doesn't make much of a canonical sense because so far all the "copies" from different worlds like otto and luocha LOOK very similar. himekos too. ratio can dye his hair of course but isn't that copium?)

    • @r0sarie
      @r0sarie 3 місяці тому +5

      i think i had a stroke reading this

  • @creativemind2942
    @creativemind2942 Місяць тому

    The Clouds mention? *Click*
    Side note: I had a lecture about Aristotle earlier this morning and in it, Aristotle says that the highest level of happiness deals with contemplation (but it also needs to be practical)

    • @dorsalfinlive
      @dorsalfinlive  Місяць тому

      Hell yeah! Hope you enjoyed the Aristotle lecture!

  • @ladynoname3621
    @ladynoname3621 3 місяці тому +1

    I honestly love both men ♡♡♡

  • @kieamonarch
    @kieamonarch 29 днів тому

    THANKY OUUUUU
    i really dont like al haitham but im okay abt ratio.. seing them compared constantly angers the demons in me....

    • @dorsalfinlive
      @dorsalfinlive  29 днів тому +1

      I’m glad u appreciated the video! Hopefully it managed to exorcise some of the demons in you :))

  • @sugoi694
    @sugoi694 День тому

    Was distracted the whole time by the hot men, but really interesting analysis!

  • @navachoudhury5972
    @navachoudhury5972 2 місяці тому

    what is the background song at 1:02?

    • @dorsalfinlive
      @dorsalfinlive  Місяць тому

      ua-cam.com/video/MH19xXj69DE/v-deo.html
      sorry this reply took years

  • @bongy-o1q
    @bongy-o1q 3 місяці тому

    Their the oppersite

  • @knoxxx272
    @knoxxx272 4 місяці тому +6

    Yes! They are not the same because clearly Dr. Ratio is a better character period

  • @Midnight_Stars777
    @Midnight_Stars777 3 місяці тому +2

    I found this video too late lol. Reason why I compared the two is because of ships 😅. Ratio with Aventurine and Alhaitham with Kaveh.

  • @tiriteuandrei147
    @tiriteuandrei147 4 дні тому

    I am pretty sure thats a joke? Did it really need an entire video?