Leica S3 Hands-On Review

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2024

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  • @Bryan-lu4du
    @Bryan-lu4du 4 роки тому +25

    The photo looks absolutely incredible. Simply amazing work. The image quality is top notch from that camera too

  • @jonballphoto100
    @jonballphoto100 4 роки тому +20

    I had the 007 for many years and now the S3.
    The S system is the best built, highest quality camera system in the world. It’s a pure pleasure to use.
    I’ve used almost every thing else. You get what you pay for in the S.
    As for mirrorless vs. DSLR they both have their pros and cons. I prefer the DSLR for ease of use, battery life and crispness through the viewfinder. I prefer mirrorless for size, weight and low light viewing. But I don't expect the S to be lightweight or to use it in really low light.
    I have shot all makes of cameras over my 22 year professional career including Canon, Nikon, Sony, Hasselblad, Mamiya, Fuji and Phase one.
    Nothing is close to the image quality I get from my S. Even at 37 megapixels my 007 was distinctly better than every full frame camera I have ever shot with. The phase one IQ4 has more resolution at 150mp but is fussy to use and slow. I have literally shot side by side with the Phase one and the S was superior in color rendition, ease of use and sharpness corner to corner. Yes there were a lot more pixels on the Phase one and it's an amazing system but I prefer the S for it's speed, handling, battery life, lenses and did I mention speed?
    Then there are the lenses. I have been a pro since 1998 when I graduated from Brooks institute of Photography. I have never seen anything like the quality of the 24mm lens on the S. It is almost fiction. The 100 f.2 is like shooting with silk. The 70 is light, fast and the skin tones are unreal. The 120 macro is a marvel. I know I'm gushing a bit but I have tried everything and nothing I've used comes close to these lenses.
    I'm a pro. I don't need a ton of features to get in the way of my shooting. I shoot large format frequently (5x7). I prefer manual focus so the single point AF means nothing to me. When I need the AF I have the back button AF/AE lock on. It's extremely precise and quick given the lens sizes. The live view is what I use when doing critical focus.
    If I could request anything from the S it'd be the same rear interface as the M, SL and Cl. The three button simplicity.
    I was shooting camels one time in the Sahara desert with my S. The wind was whipping up sand and at one point I dropped the camera directly onto the sand and it rolled down a dune. I picked it up and blew out the sand and kept shooting. I've been in rain storms that would make me nervous with any other camera.
    The battery life is insane. I haver never killed a battery in a single shoot. I only have 2 because they last so long. Hundreds of exposures per charge.
    I know it's not for everyone. It's expensive and heavy. But if you want the best medium format camera in the world that will take a punch and keep going this is a great option.
    Like all Leica cameras, the S is extremely well built, solid in the hands, rugged and simply marvelous. I compare the line of Leica cameras to other german engineered and built products like BMW. You know the sound the door makes when you close it in a 7 class BMW? Thats the S. You truly get what you pay for.
    I get tired of people complaining about the price and the "lack" of features. Most of the detractors haven't even picked up an S, let alone used one professionally. If you haven't driven a BMW how can you even begin to critique it? Don't hate on something you know nothing about. It's embarrassing.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому +2

      Good points, Jon.

    • @slimnics
      @slimnics 4 роки тому

      Well said about the dslr mirrorless . would you suggest nikon or canon though?

    • @ianstewart9153
      @ianstewart9153 4 роки тому

      Helpful. Thank you. 🙏

  • @mehmetbayraktar1045
    @mehmetbayraktar1045 4 роки тому +7

    Loved the photos, what a great demonstration of the capabilities of the camera!!! Great job presenting 👍👍👍

  • @darylgov
    @darylgov 4 роки тому +4

    Great video David, two things I’d like to add, the lenses are the best in medium format and live view on the lcd gives the benefits of mirrorless while retaining the ovf. Furthermore, Leica supports their cameras and lenses well into the future.

  • @farhadfarajov8030
    @farhadfarajov8030 4 роки тому +7

    Hi David, thanks for the review. At 2008 the S system was revolutionary as you described. However, the technology evolves rapidly. Nowadays, even recently released S3 lags behind some of the competitor's "crop" medium format cameras. I hope Leica will shift to a mirrorless medium format design sooner than later. They can create an amazing system leveraging the knowledge and experience gained in the last couple of years through the development of SL camera & APO Summicron lenses.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому +1

      As I pointed out in the video, even though the S3 isn't revolutionary like the S2 was back in 2008, it doesn't have to be. The S is still the most rugged, most ergonomic medium format system available. The optical finder and S lenses are incredible. Ultimately, the S3 is evolutionary, with a big bump in resolution, better color, and improved low light performance, but with no compromise in dynamic range. Will the S4 be mirrorless in 4 years time? Maybe. Maybe not. Right now, I'm looking forward to putting the S3 to use for the time being.

    • @vikmanphotography7984
      @vikmanphotography7984 4 роки тому

      I'd just like to point out that Leica's medium format is also a crop MF variant. If you want true digital media format, PhaseOne and Hasselblad's H series are your only options.

    • @farhadfarajov8030
      @farhadfarajov8030 4 роки тому +1

      @@vikmanphotography7984 Hey Vikman, thanks for your reply, but please be informed that I'm well aware of currently available medium format systems. P.S. I own and use P1 IQ180 DB c/w XF camera

    • @albertelazar4069
      @albertelazar4069 2 роки тому

      ​@@RedDotForum I hope Leica stays with the PRO DSLR format, and NEVER enters the mirrorless consumer zone! Mirrorless cameras are what have completely RUINED the art of photography as a whole!

    • @realmoonknight
      @realmoonknight Рік тому

      @@albertelazar4069 You may get a fat paycheck but 80% of the population can't afford the top line cameras. Do you mean they should just give up on hobbies and work harder so few like you can get richer ?

  • @marceldenhoed7469
    @marceldenhoed7469 6 місяців тому

    Absolutely stunning images! Fantastic work.
    Would be very interesting to hear more about how images from the S3 and newly released SL3 compare, once you've had a chance to put the SL3 through its paces. Similar nr of mega pixels and dynamic range , but a different processor, sensor size and lens line up.

  • @engtecksoh7299
    @engtecksoh7299 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks David. Stunning photos. The S3 cannot be great without being driven by a master.

  • @anotherguycalledsmith
    @anotherguycalledsmith Рік тому +3

    You know, I am a strange guy, I like your way of presenting more - and therefore YOU got my subscription instead of Peter McKinnon ;-)
    Kind regards from Berlin, Germany

  • @markterrin8673
    @markterrin8673 3 роки тому +2

    Landscapes are amazing!!! I think with any camera most of the photos would shine

  • @pattypants
    @pattypants Рік тому

    Congrats on this being the first video I've ever watched at anything other than "normal" playback speed. Had to watch on 1.5x playback because wow.

  • @andrewsDoc938
    @andrewsDoc938 4 роки тому +3

    16:22 now i can see the real power of the S3. Absolutely perfect tones and contrasts, and great composition too!!

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому +2

      The S3, paired with Leica S lenses is simply an amazing tool for landscape photography. Having such a stunning subject as Patagonia didn't hurt either. :)

  • @dennisheckman5916
    @dennisheckman5916 4 роки тому +3

    I'm an SL user. I like the changes made to the SL2, but I do however much prefer my X1D II for all my landscape shots. The colors and tones are all so more real and dreamy compared to the SL2. I am also wondering, if all Leica changed on the S3 was the sensor, what took SO long for it to arrive??? I am sure it is a beautiful camera that produces extreme top notch images. But, It already FEELS old and outdated! And only 8 minutes for the longest exposure time? I have owned many M series bodies and still own many SL and M lenses, but my journey and the S3 are not in any way going to converge.

    • @nelsonclub7722
      @nelsonclub7722 4 роки тому +1

      As a Hass user with a couple of H6D100's - I recently got asked to review a Leica and was told that it could take my HC lenses - I asked what the point of that was? They said so you can have a more compact camera on location to compliment the H. As it happened I had my X1DII along with me at the time and stuck to the front of it via the adaptor was an 80MM HC lens!!!! - Also Hass guarantees colour matching between H and X cameras and I can confirm it - providing you are using the same CMOS sensor, which I am; it's just slightly bigger on the H giving you near to makes no difference full frame medium format. I love the idea of Leica, but can't quite see how I would fit it into my work. If I was as you are a 'scaper' I might consider having a good look just to see what it is all about but the X series are just so good.......

  • @DB-nl9xw
    @DB-nl9xw 3 роки тому +1

    Great review. Love the way you review the camera and talk extensively about it.

  • @dfj555
    @dfj555 3 роки тому +2

    Can you guys do a shoot out with the Leica S3 and the new Fujifilm GFX 100s?

  • @tanke1818
    @tanke1818 2 роки тому

    Hey there David! Definitely have watched this video 3 or 4 times before having the chance to stop by the store

  • @j.urrutia
    @j.urrutia 4 роки тому +44

    Pro tip - 1.25x this video

    • @anandk199
      @anandk199 4 роки тому +1

      Lol... I always do!! 😂

    • @salmiakki5638
      @salmiakki5638 4 роки тому +4

      You mean 2x...the pace is really too slow, and in addition concepts are repeated over and over and over...

    • @oliverlison
      @oliverlison 4 роки тому +2

      really a pro tip

    • @salmiakki5638
      @salmiakki5638 4 роки тому +1

      @@vaas-one God, relax...

    • @j.urrutia
      @j.urrutia 4 роки тому

      @@salmiakki5638 lol - right?! "...some people man"

  • @NickGuttridge
    @NickGuttridge 4 роки тому +1

    Having tested Fuji’s GFX with an adapter and leaf shutter Hasselblad lenses to shoot at 1/1000th in the studio, well it works. But! The Fuji overheated in the studio when we worked it all day on a dance shoot. Come the afternoon lots of connectivity issues shooting tethered. So for all those people asking for mirrorless tech, the SLR design of the S3 should be better. No overheating I hope. I’m requesting to test the s3 and report back. Disappointed it hasn’t got better card slots. Other medium format cameras have an unlimited buffer when shooting tethered. That’s important. I hope the s3 can do that too. Slightly worried about the robustness of those cables. I doubt the their tools will have a solution.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому

      You can also use the HCD lenses on the S3 with the S-Adapter-H or use the dedicated Leica CS lenses. I've never had an S camera overheat. Ever. The sensor is mounted to a heat sink which then dissipates heat into the metal body of the camera, allowing for very effective cooling. This is important not just for heavy shooting, but also to maintain high SNR (signal-to-noise), which allows for 15+ stops of dynamic range and very clean high ISO. Thermal management is one of the reasons that Leica opted to stick with a DSLR form factor rather than attempt to go mirrorless for this generation of S camera.
      Agree on the card slots. I would have preferred dual UHS-II SD slots like on the SL2 as I find CF cards to be largely obsolete at this point.
      I didn't have a chance to test out tethered shooting, so I can't speak to that. The supplied cable with locking LEMO connector is fairly robust.
      Good luck in your testing.

    • @NickGuttridge
      @NickGuttridge 4 роки тому

      @@RedDotForum Thank you for replying. It's useful to know about the HCD lenses. To be clear I was complaining about the Fuji overheating. I think you know that, but readers may be confused. I would agree that it is a selling point that the Leica can avoid overheating and reducing noise. I can't wait to get my hands on the S3 and put it through the paces in the studio. The phaseone camera has such an uncomfortable shutter, I can never tell when I have really found the perfect moment with that one.

  • @MishynOfficial
    @MishynOfficial 3 роки тому +2

    Is that normal, if I watch image samples and want to cry just because how beautiful they are?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 роки тому +2

      We tried to find underdogs at every level. Glad you liked it.

    • @gentleman0678
      @gentleman0678 3 роки тому

      I’ve watched this clip so many times, that I had to give up a lens and in the process of picking up an S007, to add to the sl2. Now I just have to continue developing my skills. David is a beast!!! He has some beautiful images on his Instagram/Facebook page. Check them out. He is really nice guy as well. I got the chance to speak with him at length about the S007.

  • @OttleyInkTV
    @OttleyInkTV 4 роки тому

    AMAZING SHOTS!!!! I just bought the GFX 100. Wish I would’ve waited now.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому

      Thanks! I'm sure the GFX gives great results. But the wonderfully tuned sensor, rock-solid, no-nonsense body of the S3, and the incredible S lenses make for a dream landscape photography setup.

  •  4 роки тому

    Gear doesn’t matter but! It’s incredible. You are a good photographer. Very good one.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому +3

      I appreciate that! While many say that gear doesn't matter, in my experience, it does. Higher performing equipment allows for greater creative freedom and a more pleasing final result. In this case, the S3 paired with S lenses is just an incredible tool for landscape photography.

  • @ianstewart9153
    @ianstewart9153 4 роки тому +2

    Nice images from your Patagonia trip 👏

  • @MikeVomos
    @MikeVomos 3 роки тому

    Thank you very much for this video. My first pro cam will be S3.

  • @pmendonca10
    @pmendonca10 4 роки тому +1

    Very expensive but those images fromPatagonia, wow... I forgot how Patagonia was and is so beautiful....

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому

      It really is! Patagonia is awe-inspiring.

  • @user-ms8qg2rz5s
    @user-ms8qg2rz5s 3 роки тому +2

    Will the S3 be the last S ?
    After, there is X1d now

  • @Nordicus0114
    @Nordicus0114 4 роки тому +2

    thank you for the review. From Your experience, is there any noise or highlight dynamic range improvement over the s007?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому

      The S3 does perform better at high high ISO due to the dual-gain sensor design. Dynamic range is about the same, which is impressive at 15+ stops at base ISO.

  • @gentleman0678
    @gentleman0678 4 роки тому

    My wife and I watched this yesterday, and when she saw the sample images she said," some of those images look like paintings. That's a really good photographer and Camera." Well done David!!! You created some spectacular images. Although I absolutely love my SL2, you guys are going to make me go broke lol!!! Are you selling your S007?

    • @adamvaz9097
      @adamvaz9097 4 роки тому +1

      I noticed that too, really nice colour out of that camera, helps the photographer has a good eye too.

    • @gentleman0678
      @gentleman0678 3 роки тому

      @@adamvaz9097 yeah he has a great eye. I did buy the s007 and I love it dare I say more than the sl2... the files are gorgeous!!!

  • @allannoyes
    @allannoyes 4 роки тому +3

    I think I would rather have the Hasselblad X1D II instead for a lot less money. I love Leica for full frame M and SL cameras/glass, but for medium format there are much better cheaper options now.

  • @thomasclosier2590
    @thomasclosier2590 2 роки тому

    Incredible images

  • @marcp.1752
    @marcp.1752 2 роки тому

    No IBIS, 1 AF Point (!) and 2018 (S3) tech for 18.000 EUR. The GFX-50 S (II) and GFX-100S are 2022 looking like "bargains" in contrast. S3 features a 45x30mm Sensor, both GFX a 44x33mm. Lovely pictures David!
    But i think, Fujifilm since 2016 really pushed the boundaries, for Price/Performance, in terms of digital medium format. Hasselblad's X1D-50c (II) is also lagging behind in terms of tech, price and performance, anno 2022. Of course, a pro landscape photographer would find use for any of these, when being into the system.
    /typos fixed.

  • @goldfinch2283
    @goldfinch2283 4 роки тому +1

    Beautiful images ! Great camera!

  • @NSAwatchesME
    @NSAwatchesME 4 роки тому +1

    wow those photos ...

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому

      Thank you. Patagonia really is amazing. Can't wait to go back.

  • @kuau714
    @kuau714 4 роки тому +2

    Wow. I should have held on to my S Glass Are you going to put on a Patagonia workshop if we ever get past COVID?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому +1

      Steve, we'd certainly consider it. Patagonia was simply stunning.

    • @gentleman0678
      @gentleman0678 3 роки тому

      @@RedDotForum That would be something, if the timing is right i would definitely be interested. The color out of the SL2 is stunning!!!! It’s my desire has been kicked up a notch!!

  • @DB-nl9xw
    @DB-nl9xw 4 роки тому

    Beautiful shoots. Would buy it if I had the money.

  • @inovartesmedialdainovartes2041
    @inovartesmedialdainovartes2041 4 роки тому +1

    Great review... Quick question, is there any specific reason why for the asking price, it doesn’t produce 16-Bit files? 🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому

      The simple answer is that there is no need for 16-bit files. The S3 and the S007 before it are capable of capturing over 15 stops of dynamic range. The 14-bit DNG files are more than able to store this information.

    • @inovartesmedialdainovartes2041
      @inovartesmedialdainovartes2041 4 роки тому

      RedDotForum thanks for replying...

  • @ignaciocruzatcorrea3595
    @ignaciocruzatcorrea3595 4 роки тому

    Amazing camera. Incredible pictures. Please tell me the next time you come to Chile. It will be an honor to take you out for dinner.

  • @leolok2632
    @leolok2632 4 роки тому +1

    Can David show samples of street photos and portrait?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому

      This particular trip was primarily a landscape and travel outing. At 16:35, I did include a portrait I took of a shipyard welder in Punta Arenas to give an idea of skin tones.

  • @rottenp3741
    @rottenp3741 Рік тому

    Me,watching the wideo while having my old sony alpha 6300,knowing that I'll never gonna afford Leica. :"D . Awesome wideo btw

  • @samuelstrobel281
    @samuelstrobel281 4 роки тому +1

    Leica didnt do anything revolutonary here, other brands did that with bsi sensor stacks years ago, processors seem to be lackluster in every leica - some actual objectivity would be nice here and there. Aside from that, nicely made video with awesome production.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому +1

      For sure. The S3 isn't revolutionary. Rather, it is evolutionary, building on proven technology and features of the S007. The Maestro II processor in the S3 can process 320 megapixels per second which is plenty for the S3's modest frame rate. Other Leica cameras have faster processors. For instance, the SL2 uses the Maestro III which is necessary as the camera can shoot up to 20 frames per second at 47 MP, performs 187 MP multi-shot stitching, and shoots 10-bit 4:2:2 4K DCI up to 60fps.

    • @samuelstrobel281
      @samuelstrobel281 4 роки тому

      @@RedDotForum i did look at it the wrong way then :)
      And youre of cource totally right about the sl2 there - that is plenty and nothing to complain about, thanks for taking the time to grab that.

  • @bastian.urra_
    @bastian.urra_ 4 роки тому

    I really loved the photos of patagonia

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому

      Much appreciated. Patagonia is a wonderful playground for photography.

  • @EwaldDieser
    @EwaldDieser 4 роки тому

    Great review! Thanks!

  • @alwayson999
    @alwayson999 2 роки тому +1

    Omg, this is absolutely torture to get through. There's about 3 minutes worth of solid s3 info in this video.

  • @asamakhtar5704
    @asamakhtar5704 3 роки тому

    Hi David, I just got my S3, love the camera.
    Only thing I notice that I’m not able to activate the gps on the camera. I’ve set it to on in the settings. And went out for photos few different parks. Should I send it back for repairs? Any suggestions?

  • @san-chil
    @san-chil 3 роки тому

    I just started reading about 4x5 photography...

  • @johannesmiller4408
    @johannesmiller4408 4 роки тому

    Very good presentation, beautiful images. What is the music behind the fotos?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you. The song is called "House" by ANBR.

    • @johannesmiller4408
      @johannesmiller4408 4 роки тому

      RedDotForum Thank you very much! I love all your videos, especially the Saturday night live shows: highly knowledgable! Thank you very much, great work and it always motivates me to go out and shoot.

  • @tanmayrai9913
    @tanmayrai9913 4 роки тому

    Very Nice photography Sir 👍🙏

  • @shootprocessprint
    @shootprocessprint 4 роки тому +1

    What kind of flash systems are compatible? HSS/TTL included

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative 4 роки тому +1

      If I'm not mistaken, you can use HSS but you also have the ability to sync the flash using lenses with central shutter. The CS lenses can sync up to 1/1000 of a second without needing HSS.

  • @nguyenkevin8743
    @nguyenkevin8743 3 роки тому +1

    Those photos are great, but I wonder are those captured just like that or you added photoshop into them?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 роки тому

      No Photoshop. But I did process all the images in Lightroom. For me, there's very little purpose in evaluating a camera based on Out of Camera results. I'm concerned with the final result, as well as how well the files behave in post processing. And on those fronts, the S3 is absolutely stellar.

    • @nguyenkevin8743
      @nguyenkevin8743 3 роки тому

      @@RedDotForum Thank you, I have another question: What is the filter that you applied to those amazing images?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 роки тому +1

      Filter? Not sure what you mean? I applied standard Lightroom image edits. No special filters or plug-ins used.

    • @nguyenkevin8743
      @nguyenkevin8743 3 роки тому

      @@RedDotForum then they are over too amazing. Think I found a new toy.
      What is the song name in the photo sample my friend?

  • @古朗月
    @古朗月 2 роки тому

    Can you feel the differences between the 16bit color depth on typ007 and 14bit on S3?

  • @beyond8981
    @beyond8981 3 роки тому

    Does it really do 10-bit 4:2:2 ? All the specs I have seen suggest 8-bit only

  • @woutdezeeuw1604
    @woutdezeeuw1604 4 роки тому

    Love the colors, but it looks like different areas in the photo with different tones look a bit disconnected/stuck on.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому

      Interesting. Perhaps something got lost in the UA-cam compression. We noticed that the smooth gradients in blue skies got banded and broken after uploading.

  • @luisliu7843
    @luisliu7843 3 роки тому

    How is the autofocus speed? It is okay to do dance photography?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 роки тому

      The AF on the S3 is extremely accurate, but not nearly as fast as that on the SL2 or SL2-S. For dance photography, I'd probably recommend one of those instead. That being said, my wife shoots dance competitions with her M10 Monochrom and 50mm Summicron, which has no autofocus at all.

  • @Paoracolo83
    @Paoracolo83 2 роки тому

    Hi David, what about images? How did you take them?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  2 роки тому +1

      Not sure what you're looking for. I took all the images with the S3 and kit of S lenses (24, 30, 45, 120) on a trip to Patagonia.

    • @Paoracolo83
      @Paoracolo83 2 роки тому

      @@RedDotForum Hi. Thanks. What about shutter speed, iso ecc?

  • @lins-barrosomarcusvalerio5888
    @lins-barrosomarcusvalerio5888 4 роки тому +2

    The point is: why can we invest in the current lenses, when everybody knows that the next generation will be a mirrorless camera?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому +2

      Even if Leica does release a mirrorless medium format S camera in the future, I think it would be safe to assume that the existing lenses would work via an adapter. The SL and SL2 are mirrorless and there are adapters for a wide range of lenses: M, R, S, Nikon, Canon, PL.

    • @vlcheish
      @vlcheish 4 роки тому +2

      Unless you have serious money to burn it would be foolish to invest in this system in 2020. Sorry to say Leica MF lost a lot of users to Fujifilm and that system is growing which is the one you would want to invest in for a fraction of the price. Looks like a great camera but you need to make sure you are willing to pay for a mount that is on it's way out.

    • @giovanniGLR
      @giovanniGLR 2 роки тому

      @@vlcheish the great problem ? is definetly better than gfx s and if hasseblad x1d is simmilar to 50 r is the best portable medium format on the market , but you are right even if love the ovf is prbably going to go mirrorless

    • @vlcheish
      @vlcheish 2 роки тому

      @@giovanniGLR Its a great camera but very few are buying it. Even the S2 had a far bigger audience but the market was different then as the S2 had a much greater advantage as there was little competition then. Now the market is competitive.

    • @giovanniGLR
      @giovanniGLR 2 роки тому

      @@vlcheish for me is competive in theory nut not in pratice , fuji gxf 100s produce souless noisy immages , 50 is better but not much and the autofocus is too slow both have a bad ergonomics for my hands , i never tried the hasseblad x but i don't know if should (i stressed already too much my reference dealer ), i tried 007 and it produces tha kind of rendering that i love (i loved m10-p) with an accurate color science ,the shooting experince is minimal as i like and the ovf made think that evf is pretty much marketing propaganda vibrations aside , i wanna pull the trigger i would say that s MY camera a full strat kit would cost me 7000-8000 euro with the 70 mm lens , but i keep earing i voice : you will never see your money back no matter waht and this camera is going to die in one of these 3 ways
      1)no more MF offering from leica
      2) end of s mount (new mirrorles mf mount)
      3) end of OVF
      mix and match these trhee thing in some way and you can se the future ,is all about finding a personal and beautifull style and i wanna comit to 1 or 2 cameras for all my work
      the only contender in this moment is medium format film cameras (hasseblads)
      on the market i didn't find anything if we talk about immage quality that fits my needs , if we talk about speed sony remains the true king
      i already have m11 and i sold m10-p after seeing 007 files (i realized later the possible future of the camera )
      did you have the opportinity to compare s3 and 007 in terms of rendering and emotions ?

  • @anandk199
    @anandk199 4 роки тому

    Hi David - Just on image quality, on a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate the Typ 006, typ 007 and S3? Also, how big is the difference in image quality if you compared the typ 007 MF with the new SL2 FF for landscapes?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому +2

      Purely arbitrary but here goes. Let's give the S3 a 10 and go from there. The S007 would fall in at an 8 or 9. It offers absurd image quality with some of the best dynamic range and color reproduction available. The S3 has that, plus a big jump from 37.5 to 64 megapixels. If you don't need the higher MP count, go for a used S007 and don't look back. Now, the S006. On the same scale, I'd give the S006 a 6. With its CCD sensor, it performs well in the right conditions but isn't able to match up to the S007 or S3 in dynamic range or high ISO performance. Whereas the newer cameras can manage a challenging scene with one shot and corrected in post, the S006 would most certainly require exposure bracketing and/or graduated filters to achieve the same result. But in the right circumstances, the S006 produces lovely images.
      Comparing the S007 to the SL2 is a tough one. The SL2 offers so many technological advantages and has a killer zoom lineup that just make it so easy to use for landscape photography. But.... the SL2 still can't match up to the S007 for pure dynamic range and file malleability/shadow recovery. Combine that with the larger sensor, the S007 makes a very compelling case as one of the best landscape photography cameras available. The S3 simply builds on that. Ultimately, both are incredible and I'd feel 100% comfortable with either.

    • @anandk199
      @anandk199 4 роки тому

      @@RedDotForum Thanks so much for the detailed response and even trying to rate it on a scale of 10 per my request.. Your sample images here on this video are truly jaw dropping , I guess I just needed to be convinced on some level that, YES, we could make images that good with s007 or SL2 or even the s006 perhaps.. :P the reason is obvious, we're talking huge bucks here.. and I can see some used S007s around $6K+taxes these days? Then there was this confusion - whether s007 with 37.5MP and MF sensor can compete with 47MP SL2 FF sensor.. in other words, if you had the money to buy either which one would you prefer should have been the question :)
      If you don't mind another question - Panasonic 24-70 f2.8 vs Leica 24-90 f2.8-4 - is there a clear winner? If you had the money for Leica 24-90 would you still go for the
      Panasonic or just get the Leica glass instead?

  • @kinkreat
    @kinkreat 2 роки тому

    what is the title of the music at the beginning of the video???

  • @duodua4130
    @duodua4130 4 роки тому +6

    Leica: You're wrong, the 37MP S is all the resolution you need. Resolution doesn't matter.
    Also Leica: The 64MP S is significantly better.

  • @SchardtCinematic
    @SchardtCinematic 4 роки тому

    I hope it's a good battery in that camera being mirrorless

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому +1

      While the S3 does have live view functionality, it is primarily a DSLR, not a mirrorless camera. Battery life in regular usage is excellent - around 1000 shots.

    • @SchardtCinematic
      @SchardtCinematic 4 роки тому

      @@RedDotForum ok it looked mirrorless at first. I guess they just had it flipped up to show the sensor size

  • @gregoryhamilton6161
    @gregoryhamilton6161 4 роки тому

    did you buy the camera?

  • @michaelcobian8514
    @michaelcobian8514 2 роки тому

    Hello, does the S3 have an electronic viewfinder?

    • @sailronin
      @sailronin 2 роки тому

      No, it's an optical viewfinder.

  • @Luis-hx6ed
    @Luis-hx6ed 3 роки тому

    Who would you say this camera is for?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 роки тому +1

      The S3 is an incredible tool for landscape photographers (like me) with its high resolution, unmatched dynamic range, natural color response, extreme file malleability, awesome lens lineup, rugged build and robust weather sealing.

    • @Luis-hx6ed
      @Luis-hx6ed 3 роки тому

      @@RedDotForum would it be an option for fashion photography and portraits?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 роки тому +1

      Absolutely. Leica actually designed and marketed the original S2 to meet the needs of fashion photographers. If you can find an issue of the S magazine that Leica published for a few years, all the pictures and stories were about fashion.

  • @akhyarrayhka4048
    @akhyarrayhka4048 2 роки тому

    medium format, why theres no f0.95 lens for it?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  2 роки тому +1

      Simple reason is that a lens that fast would be so massively large no one would want to use it. And it would cost a small fortune.

  • @duodua4130
    @duodua4130 4 роки тому +1

    Leica: You're wrong, the 37MP S is all the resolution you need. Resolution is really not important.
    Also Leica: The 64MP S is significantly better.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому +2

      Actually, both statements are accurate. Not everyone needs 64MP. I've been using the S System for the last ten years and have enjoyed the outstanding 37MP images. I have prints that are 40x60 inches that show more visible detail than those at 24x36. I've seen other photographers' prints at 5x7 *feet* in a gallery show that were simply amazing. So, yeah, 37MP is totally fine for the vast majority of photographers, even overkill for many. But for those that want to push the quality envelope to the max, 64MP is better. I don't personally crop my images, but others do. For them, more pixels means more ability to crop. Given the market value of used S007 cameras right, I'd advise most photographers to look to this option first.

    • @duodua4130
      @duodua4130 4 роки тому +1

      @@RedDotForum Rubbish. People were pleading for more resolution and Leica's whole schpiel was a very poor argument that 37MP was enough when it WASN'T. 60MP is better but the 007 should have been 60 and now it's well and truly eclipsed by the 100 and 150MP offerings elsewhere. 60MP is OK but it's not enough anymore and especially so at that price. Now we're going to hear the same argument that 60MP is some kind of godly amount of resolution (when it isn't) and more resolution isn't important (when it is) and even after they've acknowledged how much better 60MP and more resolution is. Shockingly slow company and woeful marketing that treats their customers as idiots.

    • @yaovitchetchou5984
      @yaovitchetchou5984 4 роки тому +3

      @@duodua4130 You don't buy this kind of camera to have the "last last tech" from the market. You make this choice to use only 2 things: Leica S lenses and the greatest optical viewfinder. All the S users are just happy because of these lenses...Of course you can find GFX 100MP sensors if you need a faster AF for example, with very good zoom FUJINON lenses. No problem. And you can tell the same thing about Phase One and the Schneider Lens line and their great optical viewfinder. People who don't use this kind of camera every day don't understand why specs are not the essential. We are not talking about "Marketing",...

  • @SchardtCinematic
    @SchardtCinematic 4 роки тому

    This sensor I'd huge for a digital sensor. Yes it's much bigger than a full frame 35mm size. But.... when I hear medium format I think of 1.75" X 2.25" thiscsensor is still smaller than 120 and 220 film negatives. I'm assuming because its bigger than 35mm thatscwhat allows it to be classified as medium format? It looks amazing what yo expensive for me.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому +1

      Yes. The S3 has a sensor that is 60% larger than full frame 35. Keep in mind that even in film days, medium format encompassed different formats - 6x4.5, 6x6, 6x7, 6x9. On digital it's the same story, with 30x45, 33x44, 36x48, 40x53 all qualifying as medium format.

    • @SchardtCinematic
      @SchardtCinematic 4 роки тому

      @@RedDotForum ok I was confused with the digital medium format sizes. Because my full frame 5D mark III is the same size as 35mm film. I just assumed medium format sensor sizes would match. I'm fully aware that there is no one size for medium gi format and that it varies. I've shot on film in the 00s.

  • @donnlowel2387
    @donnlowel2387 3 роки тому

    Medium format is subjective... photographers care, but most people don't. I don't care because at that price I'll buy Hasselblad instead.

  • @vangstr
    @vangstr 4 роки тому

    SD and CF cards better than XQD?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому +1

      I do prefer having SD cards as SD card readers are often built-in to computers and can be read virtually anywhere. They're also much less expensive than XQD. I don't use CF cards anymore, so would have preferred the dual SD slots found on the SL and SL2.

  • @GKhanKutar
    @GKhanKutar 2 роки тому +1

    There is literally no reason to buy this camera instead of GFX100/GFX100s or Hasselblad X1DII

    • @giovanniGLR
      @giovanniGLR 2 роки тому

      well on paper you are right , in pratice book a test for both camera see what happens , you will be surprised at least from the out of the camera results

  • @nothingimpossible775
    @nothingimpossible775 4 роки тому

    Price?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому

      The price is mentioned in the video at 21:29. The S3 is priced at $18,995.

  • @vitall7871
    @vitall7871 3 роки тому

    Leica is nice, BUT I see leica brand as BEST camera for city.
    Let hasselblad be number 1 in nature and landscapes photography 😊

    • @gentleman0678
      @gentleman0678 3 роки тому

      I would suggest trying one. I bought one from leica Miami and have been pleasantly surprised. I actually wrote back to Leica Miami, saying that that LEICA needs to be shouting about this camera from the roof tops! it's that good. That's coming from someone who loves phase one. it is one seriously underrated camera!! I have the s 100mm and all I can say is wow!! I just purchased the s24mm. I can't wait for it to arrive!

  • @gregoryhamilton6161
    @gregoryhamilton6161 4 роки тому

    and lenses?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому

      As stated in the video, I already own all the S lenses I shot with.

  • @forgewire
    @forgewire 4 роки тому

    Does it has autofocus?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 роки тому +1

      Yes. All S cameras have autofocus.

  • @byndthevrtxchnnl.8108
    @byndthevrtxchnnl.8108 3 роки тому +1

    Another watched video of a product that I can't afford🥲...

  • @DB-nl9xw
    @DB-nl9xw 4 роки тому

    Can you review the glass

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому

      Sure. Check out my recent write-up on the entire range of S lenses with tons of sample images here: reddotforum.com/content/2020/04/the-definitive-guide-to-leica-s-lenses/

  • @wewuwewu
    @wewuwewu 3 роки тому

    but there's pentax

  • @vikmanphotography7984
    @vikmanphotography7984 4 роки тому +1

    At the end of the day, it's a tool. And other cameras match or surpass the potential of this camera but at a more competitive price

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому +1

      I agree 100% that the camera is a tool, and the S3 an incredible one for landscape photography. As I emphasized in the video, it's a no-nonsense, rugged workhorse, with astounding dynamic range, gorgeous color rendering, biting sharpness and grants access to a phenomenal range of Leica S glass. The ergonomics, handling and exceptional optical viewfinder don't hurt either. And while there are certainly lots of great options available, I don't think that any check every single box that the S3 does.

  • @iNKF
    @iNKF 4 роки тому

    نفس تصوير الجوال

  • @user-ms8qg2rz5s
    @user-ms8qg2rz5s 4 роки тому +3

    Will leica made a X1D style of S ?
    After all, DSLR is old technology already

    • @jackmacdonough8728
      @jackmacdonough8728 4 роки тому +2

      I prefer the incredible S optical viewfinder, it’s much better than a 35mm dslr. Have you ever looked through one? It also allows for much better battery life than an EVF.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому +2

      Some people still prefer the optical finder. Heck, the optical rangefinder in the M is much older tech than SLR and the M is the most popular Leica system by far. If you want cutting-edge mirrorless tech, the SL2 is a great choice.

    • @user-ms8qg2rz5s
      @user-ms8qg2rz5s 4 роки тому +1

      RedDotForum Hope I can afford Leica SL someday, maybe Leica SL3p ? With GPS build in again

    • @gentleman0678
      @gentleman0678 4 роки тому

      @@user-ms8qg2rz5s I said up for years to get the leica sl2, and you won't be disappointed! love the ergo's of the s line. I tried a phase and it's a beast, but ergo's are not the best. I would take the leica any day! The only things I would love to see changed are the card slots( cf express instead) and multiple focus points. I know medium format was designed for that but I would just love that!!

  • @flxffz
    @flxffz 4 роки тому +1

    I don't know why i'm here, I can't afford this.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому

      You can always consider a used S2, S006 or S007. They are incredible cameras and can be had for much less.

    • @salmiakki5638
      @salmiakki5638 4 роки тому

      @@RedDotForum are you a reviewer or a seller?

  • @A100M24
    @A100M24 3 роки тому

    woow ure so amazing 😍😍😍

  • @mikedaley8119
    @mikedaley8119 3 роки тому

    Why so many commercials. Ruins the experience

  • @mattlevitch4794
    @mattlevitch4794 3 роки тому

    Want

  • @dushyantbhatt9345
    @dushyantbhatt9345 7 місяців тому

    007 is 16bit raw image, s3 is 14bit big shame !!

  • @椿-b2v
    @椿-b2v 3 роки тому

    凄いから200万なのか200万だから凄いのかわからなくなっていく

  • @Spica1000
    @Spica1000 2 роки тому

    It’s ok if you have that sort of money to spend on a camera. Most people in the real world just do not

  • @Daniel-fb6ve
    @Daniel-fb6ve 3 роки тому

    that's why the camera is 20,000$

  • @gregoryhamilton6161
    @gregoryhamilton6161 4 роки тому

    not for everyone, price, you never mention price

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 роки тому

      21:28 Pricing and availability

  • @spikedias
    @spikedias 4 роки тому

    All for a cool $19,000

  • @gardianatony
    @gardianatony 2 роки тому

    I hate S series they don't mark the button function ! Why I need to remember which button is menu or play or delete ! So stupid ! I prefer goback to use Pentax645 , yes with Leica lens .

    • @gentleman0678
      @gentleman0678 2 роки тому

      I actually got over it rather quickly. Use it long enough and at becomes ingrained. I love it. Files are phenomenal. I would love
      Multiple autofocus points and a change in the memory cards to the new cf express cards. I’m looking forward to what Leica will do with future models of their medium format camera line, but for now I’m going to make the best of the s007 that I have now.

  • @francuasantonious
    @francuasantonious 4 роки тому

    I would better get Pentax 645Z

  • @novrahadi8568
    @novrahadi8568 4 роки тому

    R6 is better with much lower price.

  • @albertelazar4069
    @albertelazar4069 2 роки тому

    I hope Leica stays with the PRO DSLR format, and NEVER enters the mirrorless consumer oriented zone! Mirrorless cameras are what have completely RUINED the art of photography as a whole!

  • @بدرً-ح9ك
    @بدرً-ح9ك 4 роки тому

    اللي جاي من تغريدة الغالي تركي ال الشيخ لايك

  • @ceosealemon
    @ceosealemon 3 роки тому

    Leica is too expensive for an average salaryman to buy. Why is it so expensive? What's better than Nikon D750? No matter how perfect it is, waterproof rubber sealing loses function over time.

  • @starlight7830
    @starlight7830 4 роки тому

    Fuji GFX 100 is better !

    • @giovanniGLR
      @giovanniGLR 2 роки тому

      i tried both , a 007 on image quality wrecks gfx 100 by far

  • @eyesonly4451
    @eyesonly4451 2 роки тому

    I'm always amazed that people are always eager to call these "larger than" full frame cameras "medium format." No, they aren't . Maybe we should call them "mini-mediums" or "baby mediums" or "sub-mediums." Call them whatever, but it's misleading to call these type cameras "medium format."

    • @GKhanKutar
      @GKhanKutar 2 роки тому

      If it is a “baby mediums” , you should call your 35mm sensor camera as “tiny sensor”

  • @Sonofagreatdad
    @Sonofagreatdad Рік тому

    too few pixels, too much money

  • @themrkroom
    @themrkroom 4 роки тому

    الي جا على شان يبحث عن الكاميرا الي شراها تركي ال الشيخ يصف على جنب

  • @gregoryhamilton6161
    @gregoryhamilton6161 4 роки тому

    mate, cost please you dontmention cost prices, and compare, would be lovely, most people are not billionaires, need to compare price against bodies and lenses, mention prices please

  • @Households1234
    @Households1234 3 роки тому

    Could not be a more boring presentation.