Wooooott!!! GO NIGHTWISH!! Both Tarja and Anette are great singers. Nightwish is GREAT live and Tarja is doing great solo-stuff and great concerts and since I went to both of their concerts i'm quite allowed to say this ^^ I love music from the heart ^^
A lot of people complain about Anette's voice, or at least how she sings the old Nightwish songs. In my opinion, she was chosen to give the band a new perspective, they could have chosen another soprano singer like Tarja, but they didn't... I'm a big Nightwish fan since the band origins and it's all about the music and the poetry involved in the lyrics, the voice it's only a part of it.... GO Nightwish GO!!!
Both Tarja and Anette were great. Both were excellent vocalists with their own styles. Can we just get on with our lives and enjoy the music that Nightwish plays?
Annette is not just a pretty singer. She's a performer. Look at her. She isn't scared, she's meant for the metal stage. Her power and skills grow with each performance. This band, now, is great. They always were, and continue to get better. I still support them. She's pretty, too, though. ;) Just sayin'.
I like both singers very much. They both are great in their own way. After seeing them live with Anette,I came away from it impressed by her voice. At the same time I now understand why people are so passionate about this band. The music they made with Tarja is very personal to those fans. So I can see how a different version of those songs makes them upset.
and the discussion won't end... even if the songs of nightwish will be forgotten the discussion of whether tarja is better or anette won't end until earth is destroyed...... a never ending story -_-
Thank you,i am happy to see you understand me :) It's normal to do mistakes,especially when tired,but we were the ones to receive that.And actually we had paid 60 euros,that's a lot of money for a concert. And after that...Anette said that about Greece!That's why I'm so angry.
@blackhoumor Yes, it requires more strength of the vocal chords and you have to do it right or the voice takes damage. Plus, Anette is a mezzo-soprano and the high parts are written for soprano, that's outside of her (comfortable) range. A classical mezzo-soprano couldn't force herself to do that. And there are so many reasons why people bash her, the most basic one being that people still don't want to accept the new situation.
She said that in an interview.If you search for Kerrang! "Anette Olzon-No band should play in Greece" you'll find that interview,with some comments from people...
And the reason why I am lisstining to these songs is because I miss hearing them with the band that was behind Tarja for almost 10 years! And I want to se if Anette cang grow in them!..and I like Anette in Dark Passion Play songs but I cant help to watch her sing the old songs from a singer I love which is pretty normal you dont have to get mad at me!...and for poeple writing what thay think in UA-cam is normal so if you have a problem with that than you can go???
The list goes forever on;the first song is the big-loud one,then the songs like Nemo and WIHAA. The 3-4 mediocre and neutral songs.Then a big,beautiful and epic one,an instrumental and a strong ballad for the finale.
Unlike the rest of the people who cant move on. I will. Tarja over. So must accept the fact Annete is here. I will forever support Nightwish. Nightwish Forever More
however I definitely love Tarja!!!!!!!!!!!! she's a very good singer and also a good writer because My Winter Storm is simply awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well I must Say that Anette is a good singer, very nice voice.Its very difficult for any NightWish Fan to accept this drastic change in sound.I do feel bad about the whole Tarja being removed,and I know NightWish is forever changed,Tarja may have sounded Perfect,thats because she has been perfecting her voice for most her life,and With Toumos perfecting his sound for the same length of time,NightWsih was Perfect.Anette is a lucky woman, she is doing her best to live up to that perfection.
Wow, this was amazing! I find her version on equal footing with Tarja's, maybe even a little bit better. Her voice suits this song perfectly. Annete just proved to me that she's an awesome singer as well
Tuomas actually apologized in an interview about their performance.Anette apologized for nothing,not even saying those things. If you do a comparison,neither Tarja canceled a whole tour,but i never mentioned her,did i?BTW,they canceled many shows recently.
I guess she is still feeleng all the pressure of Tarja's fans. She must forget them. Nightwish is on stage and it rocks heavier than be4. She has a good vocal line, and i respect everithing tha she puts on the music.
And as about "attention" and "love",we didn't receive any.I understand they were angry,but we were tired too.We had been standing for 12 hours with no shop for a drink,seeing bands having bad sound. And they had accommodation.If she really loved fans,she should show it no matter what.
When Tarja sings the chorus, the song sounds dramatic. When Anette sings the chorus, the song is reinvented into a different story. Since Anette sounds "younger" the story changes from a third person view to that of the narrator who wishes to dream again. at least that's my take.
Man I would just love to see and EP of rerecorded Nightwish songs with Anette on vox. Here some examples of some NW songs that would in my opinion be great for Anette to work with. 1. Nemo 2. Sacrament Of Wilderness 3. Ever Dream 4. Wish I had An Angel 5. Wishmaster 6. Bless The Child As a side note: As much as I enjoyed Tarja's voice on Nemo I must say that I found her performance to be very lackluster. I believe Anette could bring a very special spark to that song.
Anette's performance of Nemo at the Helsinki concert (last one of SSP tour) was better than this one. It's on youtube. And for those who complain: Anette is NOT trying to copy Tarja. She said it herself. She brought her own shoes to fill. It would be foolish to do that. There would be even more backlash. Anette is tech. doing a cover of Tarja's version of the old NW songs. And the point of a cover is NOT to upstage the original. It is to reinvent it in a new direction.
True true. Her solo album is nothing compared to DPP. But I still like it. I just try not to compare those two different things. I try to judge her as a normal solo singer. Than it really looks better ;D
I personally like Both Tarja and Anette but I tend to prefer Anette because her voice reflects an emotion of joy and innosence, some of the old NW songs that had deppressing lyrics or made me feel sad have an entire different meaning to me when I hear them from Anette :)
Annette will never compare to Tarja... 1st of all Tarja's voice was opera...and it was so powerfull,when Tarja was singing she could TRABLE all of the Arena! all ppl were fired up... it wa simply amazing.Yes,annette has voice...its more impressive than ordinary singer,but she dun fit nighwish so good... her voice is not for such style of music,she is more dance/pop singer...
BBB=WIHAA Amaranth=Nemo Sahara-Siren Whoever Brings the Night=Dead Gardens Ghost Love Score=TPATP=Beauty of the Beast Higher that Hope=Meadows of Heaven
I suggest you not to speak for things you don't know.I was in that concert.Actually it was a festival.All bands had the same problems,even Nevermore,but their performance was excellent and they said nothing bad!We should be angry that had paid 60 euros for that circus.
@blackhoumor Not 100% correct, but close. Anette hits the high notes with belt voice, a trained technique that's anatomically quite contrary to head voice. But it is true, she also uses her chest voice a lot to give different parts of a song different meanings (like in Sleeping Sun, she starts with a soft little chest voice and makes the song grow into a strong belt voice ending). And belt voice still requires more strength of the vocal chords than head voice.
i prefer Anette by a mile she looks better, she has a great voice maybe not opera suited voice but amazing unique and i think now songs sound better and when you see them live she doesnt stand in a single spot she gives this band alot more energy
I agree with you LastEnemy666, Anettes voice does sound very strained at the end but she has only recorded one album with the rest of the band: Dark Passion Play, and it's not like she can only sing songs from that one album. The audience wants to hear the old stuff and sadly the old stuff was written for Tarjas voice and it's not like Anette can just change it to suit her voice. still i agree with you, she shouldnt try too hard to match Tarjas voice cause doing so could destroy her voice.
Anette no es comparacion, sin duda, con Tarja.. pero una banda tan buena como Nightwish no puede echarse a morir por ella. Anette le da un aire distinto. No supera a Tarja, tampoco le gana. No es el Nightwish q estamos acostumbrados a oir, pero eso es lo que hay.. Y AUN ES NIGHTWISH.. OSEA LO MAXIMO..
When i listened to them,i had no idea about other bands of this genre. How can Tuomas write the greatest music for this genre,since there's Therion?They started symphonic metal.And their composer,Christofer writes ALL the parts,when he hasn't even studied notes.
Haha nice one...You are so right...If someone search about the chords,will see that Nemo is the same with Amaranth,WIHAA with BBB and so on...Not to speak about the structure of the albums.
No I was kinda agreeing with you in that Tarja did her job and did it (for the most part) well but now it's Anette's turn. I happen to LOVE Anette, she's amazing
Yes, but for now New Nightwish hasn't got songs enough to sing in lives, so by now she must sing some of the old songs... But I think that she's nice in some of the old songs, although her sing style is so different of Tarja's. However, I prefer Tarja for old songs; as you said, Anette is better in new songs, composed for her and her voice ^^.
I don't know which are better since it has to do with taste.But the songs and the structure of the last 3 albums are very much alike. Tuomas repeats himself.
Eventhought.. TARJA.. is great.. she is a Goddess/// and her voice is amazing.. anette is good too.. they both have different styles... and i think this chick has balls to sing old nightwish stuff.. i mean.. why do u critize her?? its not her fault toumas fired tarja.
Once they make a few more albums with Anete they wont have to sing any of those Tarja songs except Nemo and I Wish I Had an Angel. The intro to Dark Chest of Wonders could be MIDI with a childrens choir, they dont need to play the song anymore just the intro. Anete is good for them, couple of more hits like Amaranth and she'll have it made, until they freak out on her too.
Yes,their low performance had to do with their annoyance.But,all bands had the same problems,like Nevermore,and they were excellent. NW should have tried to give their best for us the fans,it wasn't our fault after all.
Honestly i like it, but i still like Tarja's version more, i think the song was written more for Tarja's style, but Anette is still a good sing none the less
I listen to Nighwish for a very long time. The new songs are very good with Anettes. But, with Nemo I prefer Tarja. With all the old songs I like them better with Tarja
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BRAVO ANETTE, T'EST LA MEILLEUR !!! :P
this song is the Best! I love it!
She's putting her soul and all her body in this song! Awesome.
Very intense.
Wooooott!!! GO NIGHTWISH!! Both Tarja and Anette are great singers. Nightwish is GREAT live and Tarja is doing great solo-stuff and great concerts and since I went to both of their concerts i'm quite allowed to say this ^^ I love music from the heart ^^
A lot of people complain about Anette's voice, or at least how she sings the old Nightwish songs. In my opinion, she was chosen to give the band a new perspective, they could have chosen another soprano singer like Tarja, but they didn't... I'm a big Nightwish fan since the band origins and it's all about the music and the poetry involved in the lyrics, the voice it's only a part of it....
GO Nightwish GO!!!
Both Tarja and Anette were great. Both were excellent vocalists with their own styles. Can we just get on with our lives and enjoy the music that Nightwish plays?
Excelente trabajo Anette!! Sos la mejor!! :D
This is so great!
Anette is the best. I love her. Her Strong and power on stage are amazing !
finally someone wo realizes that nigthwish is a band and not just anette or tarja, and yea you are right about Emppu
I just LOVE the new fresh spirit Annette has brought to the band! woooowwwww.... everybody feels sooo much more free! ¡¡¡VIVA ANNETTE!!! :D
Annette is not just a pretty singer. She's a performer. Look at her. She isn't scared, she's meant for the metal stage. Her power and skills grow with each performance. This band, now, is great. They always were, and continue to get better. I still support them.
She's pretty, too, though. ;) Just sayin'.
Anette is just Awesome on this song !!!
She has a beautiful voice on this music, as in the other's !
And now you became my mother how great!
R.I.P. NIGHTWISH!!!!!
I like both singers very much. They both are great in their own way. After seeing them live with Anette,I came away from it impressed by her voice. At the same time I now understand why people are so passionate about this band. The music they made with Tarja is very personal to those fans. So I can see how a different version of those songs makes them upset.
There's one reason why I really like watching this video...I don't have to read people's comments saying that Tarja was away better then Anette lol
and the discussion won't end... even if the songs of nightwish will be forgotten the discussion of whether tarja is better or anette won't end until earth is destroyed......
a never ending story -_-
I wish they would rerelease all the old Nightwish albums with Anette singing.
I totally AGREE !!!
Hammer!
Thank you,i am happy to see you understand me :) It's normal to do mistakes,especially when tired,but we were the ones to receive that.And actually we had paid 60 euros,that's a lot of money for a concert.
And after that...Anette said that about Greece!That's why I'm so angry.
i love the key bored intro tuomas is amasing
@blackhoumor Yes, it requires more strength of the vocal chords and you have to do it right or the voice takes damage. Plus, Anette is a mezzo-soprano and the high parts are written for soprano, that's outside of her (comfortable) range. A classical mezzo-soprano couldn't force herself to do that.
And there are so many reasons why people bash her, the most basic one being that people still don't want to accept the new situation.
I just saw you on a "Whoever Brings The Night" video!! =o
She said that in an interview.If you search for Kerrang! "Anette Olzon-No band should play in Greece" you'll find that interview,with some comments from people...
And the reason why I am lisstining to these songs is because I miss hearing them with the band that was behind Tarja for almost 10 years! And I want to se if Anette cang grow in them!..and I like Anette in Dark Passion Play songs but I cant help to watch her sing the old songs from a singer I love which is pretty normal you dont have to get mad at me!...and for poeple writing what thay think in UA-cam is normal so if you have a problem with that than you can go???
As music is spectacular, but the voice is POP, will never be the same ... FUERAAA Anette!
Anette´s a sheer force by nature.
Your singing is beautiful and much better than Tarja's opera-stylish way. You're a pleasant and charming person as well. Thank you Anette!
The list goes forever on;the first song is the big-loud one,then the songs like Nemo and WIHAA.
The 3-4 mediocre and neutral songs.Then a big,beautiful and epic one,an instrumental and a strong ballad for the finale.
Unlike the rest of the people who cant move on. I will. Tarja over. So must accept the fact Annete is here. I will forever support Nightwish.
Nightwish Forever More
however I definitely love Tarja!!!!!!!!!!!! she's a very good singer and also a good writer because My Winter Storm is simply awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well I must Say that Anette is a good singer, very nice voice.Its very difficult for any NightWish Fan to accept this drastic change in sound.I do feel bad about the whole Tarja being removed,and I know NightWish is forever changed,Tarja may have sounded Perfect,thats because she has been perfecting her voice for most her life,and With Toumos perfecting his sound for the same length of time,NightWsih was Perfect.Anette is a lucky woman, she is doing her best to live up to that perfection.
coursor and song are both great
:)
I love her HEP HEP HEP :D:D:D so sweet and nice :) nice version .... best
Wow, this was amazing! I find her version on equal footing with Tarja's, maybe even a little bit better. Her voice suits this song perfectly. Annete just proved to me that she's an awesome singer as well
Tuomas actually apologized in an interview about their performance.Anette apologized for nothing,not even saying those things.
If you do a comparison,neither Tarja canceled a whole tour,but i never mentioned her,did i?BTW,they canceled many shows recently.
I guess she is still feeleng all the pressure of Tarja's fans. She must forget them. Nightwish is on stage and it rocks heavier than be4. She has a good vocal line, and i respect everithing tha she puts on the music.
Oh, don't say that you don't like Tarja. After all, she WAS Nightwish vocalist.
And yes, Anette is awesome!
i agree with grimreaper111114, he would never pick a failure.
he sings it very nice :D go Annete go NightwisH \m/
Agreed, both are great. Seen them in concert with both singers and the guys have more fun with Anette.
And as about "attention" and "love",we didn't receive any.I understand they were angry,but we were tired too.We had been standing for 12 hours with no shop for a drink,seeing bands having bad sound.
And they had accommodation.If she really loved fans,she should show it no matter what.
is it just me or are peoples comments getting less and less understandable? :S
By the way great vid 5 stars and going straight to my favourites :D
I love Anette version.
4.02 - 4.11
mrau. This moment is brilliant.
When Tarja sings the chorus, the song sounds dramatic.
When Anette sings the chorus, the song is reinvented into a different story. Since Anette sounds "younger" the story changes from a third person view to that of the narrator who wishes to dream again.
at least that's my take.
Man I would just love to see and EP of rerecorded Nightwish songs with Anette on vox.
Here some examples of some NW songs that would in my opinion be great for Anette to work with.
1. Nemo
2. Sacrament Of Wilderness
3. Ever Dream
4. Wish I had An Angel
5. Wishmaster
6. Bless The Child
As a side note: As much as I enjoyed Tarja's voice on Nemo I must say that I found her performance to be very lackluster. I believe Anette could bring a very special spark to that song.
I agree
Anette's performance of Nemo at the Helsinki concert (last one of SSP tour) was better than this one. It's on youtube. And for those who complain: Anette is NOT trying to copy Tarja. She said it herself. She brought her own shoes to fill. It would be foolish to do that. There would be even more backlash. Anette is tech. doing a cover of Tarja's version of the old NW songs. And the point of a cover is NOT to upstage the original. It is to reinvent it in a new direction.
True true. Her solo album is nothing compared to DPP. But I still like it. I just try not to compare those two different things. I try to judge her as a normal solo singer. Than it really looks better ;D
WOW Anette sings this very well! This song is not for her but she still makes this to sound good
oh yeah bro!
aleluya!
I personally like Both Tarja and Anette but I tend to prefer Anette because her voice reflects an emotion of joy and innosence, some of the old NW songs that had deppressing lyrics or made me feel sad have an entire different meaning to me when I hear them from Anette :)
Her words about it are on the last paragraph of the interview.
it's a great band!! and i think annete is awesome!!
I'm agree.
I understand what you say about Tuomas,Anette didn't have to apologize for the concert...but she had to apologize for what she said!
Genial Anette! Sos una genia! No escuches a los que tienen mierda en las orejas
Annette will never compare to Tarja... 1st of all Tarja's voice was opera...and it was so powerfull,when Tarja was singing she could TRABLE all of the Arena! all ppl were fired up... it wa simply amazing.Yes,annette has voice...its more impressive than ordinary singer,but she dun fit nighwish so good... her voice is not for such style of music,she is more dance/pop singer...
BBB=WIHAA
Amaranth=Nemo
Sahara-Siren
Whoever Brings the Night=Dead Gardens
Ghost Love Score=TPATP=Beauty of the Beast
Higher that Hope=Meadows of Heaven
I suggest you not to speak for things you don't know.I was in that concert.Actually it was a festival.All bands had the same problems,even Nevermore,but their performance was excellent and they said nothing bad!We should be angry that had paid 60 euros for that circus.
"as you said, Anette is better in new songs, composed for her and her voice ^^."
@blackhoumor Not 100% correct, but close. Anette hits the high notes with belt voice, a trained technique that's anatomically quite contrary to head voice. But it is true, she also uses her chest voice a lot to give different parts of a song different meanings (like in Sleeping Sun, she starts with a soft little chest voice and makes the song grow into a strong belt voice ending). And belt voice still requires more strength of the vocal chords than head voice.
she did good
i prefer Anette by a mile she looks better, she has a great voice maybe not opera suited voice but amazing unique and i think now songs sound better and when you see them live she doesnt stand in a single spot she gives this band alot more energy
Search in youtube : "Tarja Sophia Nemo 2009" THATS A REALLY GREAT PERFORMANCE
Love her version!!
Anette!!
Yeah, Tarja wrote the songs for My Winter Storm. Along with 7 other guys :) And another guy composed it ^^
Anette ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!
@chinogillman My favorite song by nightwish and I agree with you nightwish is still getting better lol
Indeed. Although she does better in the more uptempo songs, like Nemo, I find, compared to some of the slower songs.
And her corset kicks ass.
I agree with you LastEnemy666, Anettes voice does sound very strained at the end but she has only recorded one album with the rest of the band: Dark Passion Play, and it's not like she can only sing songs from that one album. The audience wants to hear the old stuff and sadly the old stuff was written for Tarjas voice and it's not like Anette can just change it to suit her voice. still i agree with you, she shouldnt try too hard to match Tarjas voice cause doing so could destroy her voice.
Anette no es comparacion, sin duda, con Tarja.. pero una banda tan buena como Nightwish no puede echarse a morir por ella. Anette le da un aire distinto. No supera a Tarja, tampoco le gana. No es el Nightwish q estamos acostumbrados a oir, pero eso es lo que hay.. Y AUN ES NIGHTWISH.. OSEA LO MAXIMO..
I love the cursor at 0:22-0:32.
Tarja is behaving more like a Rocker than Anette even she is more close to a Opera singer
in my opinion only tarja can sing the old nightwish songs
When i listened to them,i had no idea about other bands of this genre.
How can Tuomas write the greatest music for this genre,since there's Therion?They started symphonic metal.And their composer,Christofer writes ALL the parts,when he hasn't even studied notes.
you're right.
I totally agree with albertopinczo!!
Anette does a decent job of singing the song. no mater who sings it Anette or Tarja it is still a great song.
Haha nice one...You are so right...If someone search about the chords,will see that Nemo is the same with Amaranth,WIHAA with BBB and so on...Not to speak about the structure of the albums.
Whatever, she kicked ass at Wacken especially when she sand Wish I had an Angel and Ever Dream
I agree. Shes totally better!
No I was kinda agreeing with you in that Tarja did her job and did it (for the most part) well but now it's Anette's turn. I happen to LOVE Anette, she's amazing
Tuomas said it just to shut the mouth of the interviewer xD
This is not nightwish, everything is nightwish except the vocals, this is like listening to a random group from any bar in europe! tarja rules!!!
even if I am an old nightwish fan I still think anette has a bit more energy than tarja did
Yes, but for now New Nightwish hasn't got songs enough to sing in lives, so by now she must sing some of the old songs...
But I think that she's nice in some of the old songs, although her sing style is so different of Tarja's. However, I prefer Tarja for old songs; as you said, Anette is better in new songs, composed for her and her voice ^^.
Bless The child.
The structure is the same.And if you know notes,you'll see they are the same too.
I don't know which are better since it has to do with taste.But the songs and the structure of the last 3 albums are very much alike.
Tuomas repeats himself.
Eventhought.. TARJA.. is great.. she is a Goddess/// and her voice is amazing.. anette is good too.. they both have different styles... and i think this chick has balls to sing old nightwish stuff.. i mean.. why do u critize her?? its not her fault toumas fired tarja.
Once they make a few more albums with Anete they wont have to sing any of those Tarja songs except Nemo and I Wish I Had an Angel. The intro to Dark Chest of Wonders could be MIDI with a childrens choir, they dont need to play the song anymore just the intro.
Anete is good for them, couple of more hits like Amaranth and she'll have it made, until they freak out on her too.
Yes,their low performance had to do with their annoyance.But,all bands had the same problems,like Nevermore,and they were excellent.
NW should have tried to give their best for us the fans,it wasn't our fault after all.
Honestly i like it, but i still like Tarja's version more, i think the song was written more for Tarja's style, but Anette is still a good sing none the less
I listen to Nighwish for a very long time. The new songs are very good with Anettes. But, with Nemo I prefer Tarja. With all the old songs I like them better with Tarja
guys leave Anette alon ! she's good singer, other tahn Tarja, you can't compare them ! I love the way she sings Ever Dream, Nemo or The Siren.
Amaranth! He said that in an interview :D
There really is no need for you to listen to these songs with Anette... You can just keep listening to Tarja's versions...
her annunciation seems fine to me. Lol her words are clearer then when spoken with most english accents lol.