BlackMagic ATEM Mini: Church Sound Input Options - Perfect Live Stream Audio
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When it comes to the ATEM Mini, you have 2 stereo line/mic inputs and 4 HDMI inputs for sound. In this video, I go over ways to get sound into the ATEM mini using the stereo line/mic inputs and the HDMI inputs.
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Ajay,
Thank you for all you do. We started to get serious about live streaming when we shutdown inside service 6 months ago. Prior to this, we were just recording a single cam and taking a recording from the soundboard. This worked, but wasn't live and we had several production issues. When we went to stream 6 months ago, we started with a webcam and a 6 channel PA system. With your help and videos, we now are back inside our building and live streaming on a 2-3 camera ATEM Mini setup pulling from Pro Presenter for our lower thirds. With your videos and suggestions our full setup went from a borrowed laptop and webcam to a 4-channel HDMI Splitter (for our projector, ATEM, and our extender), laptop, 4-channel HDMI extender (for sending signals throughout the building to multiple rooms), and 1 1 channel HDMI extender (for our remote camera). While we still tweak our setting and are now working on a good audio mix, our congregation is extremely happy to have this as a viewing option. Thank you for all the help!
That is awesome. Thanks for sharing this with me.
This is a great video, It clear so many doubts about, how to?, what cable?. From where to where ?, thank you for making videos for those of us learning the basics, God Bless!
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Ajay, One small corrections. The ATEM input is a STEREO UNBALANCED input. So XLR (Mono) to 3pin mini plug (Stereo) is not a good solution. Using an unbalanced audio feed... the Left channel goes to tip and ground / the Right Channel is to sleeve ring and ground of the mini input plug.
Our ministry uses the Aux send to mix to the to live feed. We control mix for in-house volumes separate from the live mix (using the Aux send). Doing it this way allows the team to not mess up live stream sounds when correcting in house volume needs, and vice Versa.
This is the best option. My board does not allow this. I'm trying to get a new updated mixer so we can do this and so much more.
It only works correctly if you use the aux-send in the pre-fader modus. Otherwise you change the volume of the aux-send each time you adjust the faders for the live mix.
thanks man, appreciate ya. We just picked up one of these and I wanted to make sure the RCA to 3.5 into line out would work.
It will
Ajay, it's best to feed the audio into one of the cameras and then turn ON the audio for that camera's HDMI input on the ATEM Mini. The reason for this is because HDMI is delayed by 2 to 3 frames and will be out of sync with your audio coming into the Mic In. Feeding the audio into a camera will sync up both the audio and video.
The only issue is that many churches cameras are more than 20 feet away from the console. XLR to Stereo Splitter going into the line in of the camera is unbalanced audio cable. Past 20 feet you may encounter a heavy hum from the EFI spectrum that comes from lights and television monitors in the sanctuary..
Correct at this point an audio interface to the computer would be better
On the Behringer X32 , you could press the Routing key next to the LED display, scroll to the appropriate stereo out matrices and roll the dial to a sound delay of 200ms. If the ATEM is right by the mix console, although using unbalanced cable, then it should be ok to connect it directly from console to ATEM without having to use an audio interface in the middle of your connection chain.
isn't there a delay control on the atem mini?
It is now with software 8.2.3
You don't want to take an XLR output straight into a stereo jack input. The three pins on the XLR are ground, signal, and a reversed version of the signal (for cancelling out interference), for one channel of audio. If you plug this into an input that's expecting different channels of audio on each pin it will put the "normal" version of the signal on one side and the reversed version on the other.
Hi Chris! I know it's 6 months later buuuuttt.... What would you recommend instead? We're running straight from a yamaha tf5 xlr output straight to the atem and we're experiencing pretty loud interference. Do you know what the solution would be to avoid the interference?
Make sure you change the input to line instead of microphone
@@AJaytheCEO Oh man I knew it had to be something simple, that worked! Thanks so much!
Bro I love your videos. My go to for streaming services
Thanks. Glad they are helping you
Great job on your setup with the atem.
The only thing I may add becareful when you connecting the audio from the mixer to the mic jack of the camera, it will have a lot of distortion. Cause the camera only like mic level. The board send line level. To avoid this you need a converter from line to mic level -50db. If the camera has already included the xlr port is a great chance that has the converter included. Or you have to drop all fader almost all the way to the bottom.
Thanks for that info
You can set the mic inputs from line to mic in the control panel settings.
Correct
@@AJaytheCEO Yeah, this is very essential information. The Atem manual doesn't put this info up front, and that cog icon sits out of the way in the lower left of the ATEM software - I forget about it sometimes. It would be nice if BMD printed "mic/line" on the back of the unit for the two physical inputs, giving some indication that there is internal attenuation built in on this unit with a selector. Line input should be the default for any switcher, and mic levels are the bonus. Glad I found it. Also, it's possible to still get your two mics input when you're using one of the 3.5mm jacks for stereo line-level from a mixer. You can split any of the HDMI audio or mic inputs into two distinct mono signals and simply route the two mics (with the right cables and adapters) to a TRS stereo input. They would then be independently controllable in the ATEM mixer. Pretty cool.
Ben Hopkins the mic in can be converted to stereo line? I mean, can you send stereo signal to mic in with a two female xlr to a stereo mini jack?
@@mayomode, yes you can. Just make sure you go to the ATEM settings for audio and switch the Mic1 or Mic2 inputs from mic level to line level.
Thank! This was very helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
Loved this as an intro, but I am ready for the deeper dive and I got my ATEM Mini and started testing. Audio was pretty good, but when the group started singing and playing, it seems to have some distortion and it wasn't peeking on the ATEM or OBS. I have heard adjustments need to be made to something maybe on the EQ or Dynamics side. Do you have ideas or thoughts on changing that in the ATEM Mini?
I second this issue. Any help on this would be welcome!
The distortion can be a couple of places. It could come from your source audio mixer that peaking and getting distorted before the sound gets to the Atem. Or, the atem mini audio is set to wrong. Check to see if the audio input is set to “mic” or “Line”. The preamp May be over driving the input (could cause damage to the input)
Also turn on the compressor on the ATEM ... use make up gain to level things out .
Helpful video, thank you very much!
hehehe ajay waiting for thae multiview in atem mini :)
great tips, thanks
I have a atem mini pro but I'm getting a (Buzzing sound ) I'm coming out mono xlr but it's a mono 3.5 going into the mic jack on the atem . Do it need to be stereo with 2 rinds instead of 1 ring jack
Do you have Mic1 set as line?
Hey brother.
Im outputting from main output XLR from qu sb mixer to the atem 3.5mm jack line level.
I have sound working perfectly on my laptop and new mobile phones.
Older phones I get no sound from UA-cam streams whatsoever. Any advice how to overcome this?
Not exactly sure. What level do you have the ATEM set to (mic or line)?
@@AJaytheCEO managed to solve it. Had to split audio into Mono Channels on the Atem settings.
great audio tips, thanks
You're welcome
How do you plug xlr into ATEM ? Do t I need something like saramonic Sound card . The rack sized Berlinger converter is too much. I tried taking the line cord out of the sound board and had a hum of the ground . I Had! To you xlr from the mixer .
Please suggest. Btw. We just finished our conference. And you are my hero man such an inspiration in this ministry . Lord bless you.
Ps I did my own mix in an auxiliary dedicated mix .
One thing I really love about your videos is that it’s not just theoretical but you actually walk through and show and actual setup
You can convert xlr to a 3.5mm cable. Also make sure in the atem software, you have the input changed from mic to line if you are coming from a mixer
I really appreciate you, thanks! :)
Glad I could help!
I'm a moron, can someone please explain this to me?
I have 2 microphones, say they're Shure SM7B's, I connect them to my Scarlett 2i2 audio interface, I then connect that interface to my computer via a USB-C to USB-A cord. usually, I record directly into audacity.
I'm wanting to know how I can connect this set up to the ATEM mini for live streaming so that I can combine my high-quality audio to my high-quality video while LIVE!
THANKS IN ADVANCE!
First off you are not a moron. All you need to do is run dual 1/4 outs from the scarlett's monitor out into a 3.5mm stereo cable into the back of the atem mini's mic jack and most likely switch the mic input from mic to line in.
I did my first test with running a stereo mix from x32 into atem mini pro and unless I did something wrong the audio was not as clean as when I sent audio directly into OBS. I will say the signal sent to OBS is via usb and the signal coming into atem mini pro was 1/4 aux out into stereo 1/8 jack. The direct into atem mini had that underwater sound to it but OBS direct was clean and full. Your thoughts?
Did you change the mic input to line in, through the software?
@@AJaytheCEO Yes
Greetings AJ, I'm using the atem mini pro for church, which has speakers, bands, and vocalist. However the sound processing from the atem seems to be compressed and doesn't capture all the vocals and band during the worship session. Do you have any tips on how to get high quality sound out of atem and into my UA-cam live stream?
What type of source are you using for input into the atem?
@@AJaytheCEO a 3.5 to 1/4 cable
Hey, so we’re outputting from our mixer into our Atem mini into mic 1 and it shows audio actively coming in on the Atem software, but when I go into OBS and add an audio source and choose black magic we don’t get any audio?
Don't add an audio source. Go to your video capture properties, scroll to booty, select use custom audio and select audio there
is there a reason why you would only use one xlr out and not 2 for stereo sound? wouldn't stereo sound better?
I most likely was sending stereo over that one cable to the ATEM. I always use stereo for stream audio
@@AJaytheCEO how did you send stereo with only one cable? On my x32 I had to use two outputs for stereo
Did you have issues with making a hum or buzz using the mic 1 input
Yes only if I connected a sound mixer and left the mic input set to Microphone instead of line in.
AJaytheCEO I’m running ours out of the mixer with a rca to 3.5. I switched the mic input to line level and put the equalizer on but I was getting that hum. Yesterday I put volume to 0 and the hum went down a lot but I can see hear it a little. I brought a hum isolator but I won’t get it until Monday.
@@985live That may be the cable being used. Do you have access to another cable to try?
AJaytheCEO I just brought those cables off amazon. You have a Email? I can send you pics
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How you input camera sound by hdmi from atem mini to OBS ? , my OBS only detect blackmagic microphone and do not detect my camera sound, how to do it ?
Do you have the audio turned on for the specific hdmi input?
@@AJaytheCEO i have
My kind of old school sound guy get nightmares of hooking up stuff with different levels like on this video... I've also read The Manual of mini. And posses DI boxes along proper cables & adapters.
Any issues with sync when you bring sound in separately (as in not through the HDMI)?
No issues. That is how all my videos are captured
Hey AJaytheCEO, was wondering if the ATEM mini pro accepts the iRig Pre as an audio source. We connect an XLR cable from our digital mixer into the iRig Pre, and then the iRig Pre into the mic input of the ATEM mini pro.
Yes it should
The Blackmagic Web Present works very well with Finncast Studio
“The manuals around here somewhere” 😳
At the beginning you mention get a cord with 1,8 plug on 1 end and a 3pin XLR connector, but the XLR is mono what do you set the atem audio software do you splitt audio?
There is a 1 minute UA-cam video he corrects that by splitting the mike1 audio and shutting off the right side in atem soft ware, Mike 1 set to line in.
Thank you so much for the tip of going from headphone jack of my interface to the atem.. Any suggestions on how to make sure the headphone volume is set to the right level and what adjustments would need to be made in the ATEM? My volume coming out of the atem (when streaming ) seems low..
I would consider this my last option though as some have said, this will not give you exactly what you need but it will get the job done.
@@AJaytheCEO Thank you! So, last night I pulled out the manual (something I should probably have done earlier).. One thing I learned is that my interface, which is USB, will work with my pc and feed back to the Atem... Having owned this thing for a week, I can see it's going to take many more before I even have scratched the surface..
Is there a way to get sound into atem via usb?
not directly into the atem. you can via computer and streaming software
Hey brother you got audio delay when you see the livestream I use the mic directly to the atem and my 2 cameras and got the audio delay I don’t understand why can you give me a hand thank you
What is your system specs that you are using with your ATEM Mini
@@AJaytheCEO ok I use I mic pixel m80 directly on the atem and for the software I use wirecast but that's happen me with obs too and my Mac mini 2014 for the rest configuration I use the normal I don't modificate anything else Maybe that's my fault ?
I'm having the same problem of delay in Wirecast, I've tried various method but getting the same result(delay)
@@congosynthese5946 I make this to resolve I upgrade de version of the atem control to 8.1.1 and make a live on youtube but directly on the web not use a a software I was fine and also I make a Live too on FB directly and was work fine too I dont know what is the problem exactly when we use a livestream software could make this problem
@@congosynthese5946 how is your audio connected to the ATEM through he audio jacks or through a camera?
Can you use the monitor out L & R to the Atem Mini Pro?
Yes you can
My church just go the ATEM mini for our live broadcast, unfortunately there is a hum coming from the ATEM and it can be heard over the live. How do we neutralize that?
Do you have the mic input set to line or mic?
You may need a ground loop isolator
Does the aux out need an impedance matching box?
I don't use one
Hi there, great explanation and setup.. I'm currently using atem mini connecting to OBS to do the live streaming... What software do you use?
At church obs, and home obs and vmix
@@AJaytheCEO ok thanks
Can we use wireless? With RLX transmitter from mixer and receiver with 3,5 mm
Technically yes but I have not tested this to be 100% on it
What's better: a sound interface or atem mini's audio?
It all depends on the user. I personally am not a sound guru so I'm moving to an intelligent audio interface that handles the gain and that goes to my live stream
@@AJaytheCEO I tought you were using atem mini's sound. So, what interface do you use? Do you have any video about your services?
@@Mad91oax This setup is only for my personal UA-cam channel and recommendations for other churches. At my home church we have the original ATEM TVS with sound coming from our Roland M400 mixer. You can see our services at ua-cam.com/users/AntiochBaptistMedia
nah, those were AUX RTN, so that's an input to the board...
there is no stereo aux out on that thing ;(
Yeah I ended up using the RCA stereo output
We have two amps. separate one amp for piano and another one for voice mics with mixer . we are only getting voice output from mixer. how to split piano audio one for separate amp(standalone piano amp) and another one for ATEM MINI. THANKYOU
What type of mixers do you have. Without knowing the type, I would bring a line in from both into the 2 separate mic inputs on the ATEM Mini or you could feed one mixer output into another then you only need one line going to the ATEM Mini
@@AJaytheCEO thankyou for your replay. .
if possible to get 2 output from piano?
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ua-cam.com/channels/aS43Zr8BrfHAovEAqXGwMA.html watch last 3 uploads. when sing choirs only voice comming. currently weare using seperate mic for keyboard. we are using vmix pro
one another help sir. please create whatsapp group for church livestream help messages. because i can't show my church setup on youtube. please hep me sir. i have 3 cameras
1 is video camera 15 meter away from our operating area. using hdmi cable working fine
2 is 30 meter away when using hdmi they give no signal
3 is also 120 meter also same problem
our church is 230 mtr long. please help.
I would use a direct box for this. Line out from piano goes into direct box, direct box xlr output goes to system and direct box passthrough back to amp.
Hi Ajah, Please how do I live stream sound/music from my computer. I want to use a countdown from easy worship then play a light music on the background...please, whats the required connection...
That can be done, it all depends on your upload speed. You need at least 7mbps upload
Hey brother, will I experience delay if I don't put the audio through my Camera but by independent sound mixer just like what you're doing, so my audio and video would be through different input.
How long will you be recording? I only got a delay with very long recording sessions.
@@AJaytheCEO around 1 hour 15 mins the most.
My church wants to live stream. We have a Precision 3630 Tower. I was wondering if you know if propresenter would crash with OBS both running at the same time?
Who makes that computer and what type of processor is in it
Ok that is made by Dell but I need system specs to properly answer your question
@@AJaytheCEO I just remembered, the it Technician who put it on the quote for our system didn't say which one had the more GB or TB. I will have to check with her and see which one it is.
@@jaydenmoore155 ok let me know
vmix try it has a lower third thats easy roght away to use
Que pena que no entiendo inglés, me gustaría saber más de la parte de audio de la atem mini
¿Qué te gustaría saber?
Your pastor was a young guy. My condolences.
My pastor is still very much alive and kicking
@@AJaytheCEO I thought it was Karry Wesley. Glad to know your pastor is going strong.
The graphics on the mixer are high sir
I dont understand your comment
When I plug xlr to 3.5mm the sound gets greatly reduced. I don't know why I've tried everything from turning gain up but it's always low
Did you change the input on the atem from line to mic or vic versa?
We are having a ton of issue with our audio and the ATEM. One of the things I've learned is that you need an unbalanced cable going into the ATEM. I don't know if you are having consistent low volume, but we found ours was going up and down which indicated a phasing issue. Getting an unbalanced cable fixed that, but still working on getting other audio issues.
I had a digital mixer need to know how to hook up xlr to mixer to get sound from
My stem mini
Get an xlr to 3.5mm cable
@@AJaytheCEO once I get that do I go into a aux connection or what
@@williamthompson5758 you can go from an aux on your mixer or output into the atem and switch the input in atem software to line instead of mic
@@AJaytheCEO ok thanks I have the a digital mixer so I am going from aux 4 xlr with a 3.5 into mic 1 on atem mini so at that point go into software and switch settings then I can control the sound through my mixer board correct and what’s the best software to use for that setup we are currently using streamyard
@@AJaytheCEO k thanks I have the a digital mixer so I am going from aux 4 xlr with a 3.5 into mic 1 on atem mini so at that point go into software and switch settings then I can control the sound through my mixer board correct and what’s the best software to use for that setup we are currently using streamyard
What if your drums aren't miked
They would probably be picked up faintly via another mic or you could try a shotgun mic until you could mic them into the house mixer
I knew i was asking the right person. As always, thanks
I don't understand what you say
Please keep it simple
Solve the problem
How do I connect 4 pcs of xlr mic to one 3.5 mm jack of atem mini
Use a mixer
Hi, Thank you for the video. I have a question. I want to lifestream with two camera's. The camera's don't have an audio input so i will need to use a external mic.
I read that if you plug in an external mic into the atem mini there will be a delay with the video so audio and video will be aut of sync. Do you know if this problem and if so, do you have a solution for it ?
Thank you
Hey Vincent. First off you are welcome. I only get a sync issue with one of my computers. Here where else I have not had a sync issue. If you experience this issue and you are using OBS or VMix, you can add an audio delay to make up for the delay if any.
@@AJaytheCEO Thank you for your swift reply. Much appreciated. This is all new fo me. How can i add an audio delay?
I don't know if i will use OBS or Be.live.
In OBS there is advanced sound properties. Then you just clock on the delay plus or minus until you match up the sound with wtih video. I have not heard of be.live
@@AJaytheCEO thanks
For some reason my mix has all the energy sucked out of it .
Do you have a sample
@@AJaytheCEO I fixed it . it was user error as we had a new unit and the settings for mic 1 was set to mic in and not line in . So when it engaged the preamps it automatically killed all my low end and compressed the signal .
I like your videos but you really could do better with your post edits. For this video, know what you are talking about if you want people to find you credible. This was a really good video idea on helping people understand how to get audio from their mixer into the ATEM mini but you didn’t even know where the monitor send was on the behringer mixer. You were pointing at aux returns. Also, be specific when talking about your cable connections. You kept saying convert your rca cables down to stereo. It’s actually down to 1/8” trs which is stereo. Good stuff you’ve been doing on the mini but please do a dry run before recording live.
God prayers you get a new camera with a pro lens
you are not short out the problem
Your comment doesn't make sense