@@bms0294Word! I would love to know what happened to these folks. They were the Couple that folks were the most stunned with and sympathetic with, most notably Stephanie. She's going to get her Van reposessed. Remember in Beyond The Attic, when Corrine lost alot of her stuff becuase she didn't pay from her dining room set, to the Oven and stove and she cried, how am I going to feed my children.
This guy is 100% abusive!! If he’s like that 1: On a tv show 2: in front of his kids 3: in public…can you imagine what he’s like behind closed doors!!?? Yikes! Really hope she left this maniac and is happy now.
@@christettec3045 As for him, he will go bust after she leaves him and hope that the lawyers and the judiciaries see this and make Sam totally go south.
I think in giving the wife counselling, Gail was hoping she would come to discover that she's in an abusive relationship with a narcissist, and get herself OUT.
This is by far the saddest episode I've ever seen. This narcissistic dude wanted to be right so bad that he sabotaged their progress to prove "he's never wrong."🤦🏽♀️ I imagine an update on them would show that they lost everything and their family was unfortunately torn appart; he tore it appart with his bare hands. 😢
I’d bet it was HIS idea to go on the show. I can’t imagine her convincing him to do anything. Then when it was a disaster, he blames her because in his words “I’m never wrong”. That poor woman. All he has on her is “you can’t do it without me”. Well HE got them deep in the hole. Even on 20,000 a year she’d be better off without his stupid spending and abuse.
@@marynorton6068 and, he is the reason they failed. He sabotaged it in my opinion, not wanting to make any changes, because he still wants to display the image of expensive things, and then claiming he knew it was a bad idea. Yeah, because you have been exposed for who you really are, narcissist don't want that. I wish we could hear how the wife is doing.
And the problem is she puts up with it she lets him do it because she doesn’t make a lot of money so she lets him do it I’m sorry I won’t put my foot now it’s either my way or the highway honey you want all your crap there’s the door take a crap and don’t let it hit your ass on the way out you have screwed this family love or the last time is what I tell his sorry ass
@@johannamiller527 I doubt it. Most of his severe asides were delivered when Gail wasn’t around. Like all bullies he picks weaker targets. What IS sad is that over the years he has ground her self-esteem down to nothing. There is no spark in her eyes. He couldn’t have done it if she had shown any backbone earlier in their relationship, but their roles now are too firmly entrenched. She will only escape by physically leaving him, and I can’t see that happening.
I would not be surprised if he has already hit her or threatened to hit her. She has been ridiculed and dominated because she only makes $20k/year. So, he has the final say. She can’t raise 4 kids on that a year by herself. Unfortunately, he seems like dead beat dad material. So, she probably doesn’t see divorce as an option when she really needs a divorce to save herself. Plus, the children are seeing and are affected by all this daily drama!
Stephanie, if you’re watching this, please know that every viewer cares for you, your plight and your children. I genuinely hope you are in a better place now, where you feel safe and loved.
Amen! He is so abusive and he makes her think that she`s nothing without him. I wonder if his `Boss` saw this and how horrible he was. I am almost afraid to see how he is with Staff.
When I divorced my first husband after 18 years of marriage, I told him: finally, you won't be able to blame me for your failures... and he said, eyes wide, :but I don't have any failures!... fast forward 18 years later, he's broke, regrets that I divorced him. My self esteem was in the toilet before I divorced him.
This episode first aired 10+ years ago, which is a lucky thing for Sam because he would have been eviscerated on social media and likely would have lost his job for the abusive behaviour he exhibited towards his wife. He showed how he not only emotionally and psychologically abused her, but also financially - financial abuse is a very real thing that isn’t talked about nearly enough. By making significantly less than her husband Stephanie felt like she couldn’t go at it alone - which is exactly what he wanted. He is a walking red flag and malignant narcissist. Men like this are dangerous. Imagine what he’s like behind closed doors when cameras aren’t rolling.
I love how Gail holds everyone responsible for the mess THEY created. When he yelled at his wife in front of Gail and the cameras, I almost cried for her.
This was horrible to watch. He is so abusive. Gail takes his car away, he immediately starts abusing his wife. Shouting “don’t forget where your bread is buttered”. Well dude, it’s not with you. You are so awful with money she’d be financially better off without you. Money aside she’d be better off without you in every way. I feel like she’s bought his lies that she can’t manage without him. I hope she escaped.
This made me tear up a bit. My child's father was the same. He made me feel like we'd suffer if I left. I'm happy to say we're fine and doing better without him. I'm living proof that you're better off without a narcissist.
She is trying to in not so many words tell her - you are being abused and need to seek help. The husband is a head case who I would fear will keep her down until he replaces HER with the next shiny thing and puts the new wife through a ringer as well with his high amounts of debt and propensity for dishonesty.
i am pretty sure by this time,there is no more bread, or butter, or a cupboard to put the bread in or a refrigerator for the butter. what a complete tool.
Yes !! I think her getting counseling and seeing the verbally abusive relationship for what it is more beneficial than getting $5K to stay in something that is harmful for her and her kids.
I'm 100% positive that they lost the house, went bankrupt and are divorced by now. Classic abuser behavior. Classic narcissist behavior. That man is an idiot. I've never seen Gail give zero on this show. Even that one really obnoxious couple got $1000. I once heard Gail say the reason no one got zero before was because she always thought that there must be someone worse. Well, she finally met "worse".
There have been a few Princesses that didn't get a cheque in the end. Sam and Stephanie got three weeks of their budget, $900.00 because they had nothing to live on. So sad.
I just left a comment on that upstream. I would love to know the story behind that slip of the tongue. Did he simply pick a favourite early on? Was THIS the grasshopper he thought would be destined to be most like Daddy? Is Junior the result of an affair, the one Sam (possibly) alluded to when he told Steff he offered her a chance to leave years ago?
This is by far the saddest case I’ve seen on this show. If he’s that nasty to his on camera, imagine what he does to her behind closed doors. I’m more concerned with her safety than I am their finances.
For having been in a bad spot myself relationship (although not THAT OFF) wise she probably doesnt know how to get off and making it on her own without impacting the kids well-being too much! I honestly hope she leaves and contact Gail to help herself out and get 5000$ that way as a single mom....
Gail must have been in a hard place. Knowing that there was absolutely nothing she could do must have been so hard. She did her best to get that woman the help she actually needed but until Stephanie can see, nothing can be done.
@@michelecleansup yes. That last "I thought you could help us" tells me she thinks the only way to help is to be given more money!!!! So that's why her family cut her off. Sometime I think she might be just as bad because of the comment about the kids not wanting small kitchy things. But he is the bigger problem
He is her "best friend?" She doesn't need any other enemies, that's for sure. This was sad. I really hope she got the help she needed. No relationship is worth that kind of abuse.
My heart hurts for Stephanie and the children. This is the first episode that I have watched of this show that left me in tears! I don't think they are going to be able to keep their home, let alone their marriage.
I don’t think it’s that easy in this particular case. If they each own half he could stall for a while by refusing to sign the legal documents. And considering their terrible credit history, they probably had to get a co-signer to even get this mortgage. (Again, I am just speculating.) But I sincerely hope they didn’t involve a 3rd party in their mess, because they are ruining enough lives as it is.
Oh I suspect the house and most other things are in his name. If she had control of a0ny of it she would have done something. Course would have had to face probable death after doing it...
She only makes $20K a year and has 4 kids. There's no way she can survive on her own unless he would pay a ton of child support, which I doubt he would do. If she walks away he will justify not taking care of his own kids because "she left me" so it's her problem. That guy is scary. What a mess.
@@joannewolfe5688In the states. If he doesn't pay and she goes on state aid. The government will take it out of his paycheck. He has to pay now or later.
@@joannewolfe5688 This is a little late, but wages in 🇨🇦 will also be garnished if a parent refuses to pay court-mandated support. However, I had friends whose exes were in the trades/self-employed and they found ways around the system. Getting paid under the table, declaring less than they actually made, and other cute little tricks. And my friends weren’t asking for spousal support, just support for their mutual kids. I still cannot understand how a parent can turn their back on their child. Your hatred for your ex is more powerful than your love for your kid? I will never understand.
He’s horrible. I can only imagine how he talks to her behind closed doors. He gaslights her and blames her for all the problems. He’s absolutely TERRIBLE!
Yeah! I didn’t get that either! They could have had a huge garage sale, returned that projector, and then pawned their weddings to get out of that payday loan. So next month…no car or homeowner insurance, no phones, then month after that…car repo, foreclosure notice / eviction, then…bankruptcy, and finally…no wife or kids! His ego cashes checks that his wallet and brain can’t handle. Sad, truly sad.
He would never let go of anything he had. He did what he always had done which was bully his brother for money. I suspect that happened because he couldn't succeed in bullying her to get money from her family. There is no way he would ever let anyone he knows think they had money issues so he's told the brother he needs a quick shot of 'just $1500 because she screwed something up. This poor woman. Her life was hell. I hope she was able to save herself.
This makes me so happy. I been a single mum fir years and never have ever been evicted, had my car repossessed. Never has my son gone to bed hungry. Right now we are just getting back from Washington DC where l took him for his 21st birthday. Life needs to make sense.
Little Napoleon - he is a short, bald, egotistical nobody. Ladies, if this isn’t proof that you need to get the education/training for a good paying career, I don’t know what is. When your only option is a low paying job that would never be enough to support 3 children - you give all your power to what often is a controlling narcissist. Please, please teach this to your daughters.🇺🇸❤🇨🇦
Hadn't seen this episode before and all I can say is 'Wow, what a jerk!' His family is almost out on the street and he doesn't want to sell the house and start with a clean slate. What are all those people going to think when you're living in your car because they've taken everything else. And what's going to happen to his kids? He reminds me of the Princesses with their entitled attitudes who can't live the life they want unless someone else is footing the bill.
@@capestreasuresPtown Word! I thought Simone and Frank were bad. Dear God this is heartbreaking 🥺. They don't budget. Minimum Payments don't work. The interest rates are horrifying.
Yes I saw the prequel to Flowers In The Attic. Corrine really fell on hard times. When Christopher dies she sees the truth of their finances. Bonechilling.
When you're forced to deal with a person that never thinks they're wrong and blames everyone but themselves for the problems in their lives, and also refuses to change, then you have to, HAVE TO! WALK AWAY! These types end up drowning in their problems before they deal with them, and they often grab onto anyone around them as they go down, taking those people down with them. It hurts to watch, especially if you're close with them. It's seriously painful medicine.
I think this is what Gail believes also that is why she left her a gift of counseling and he mad because he does not want his wife to wake up and leave him because more expensive for him not because he loves her because I can see the hate in his eyes when he looks at her saddd😢
He sabotaged it. He killed it before he heard a word. Poor Stephanie. I agree with the previous poster: my conviction is that he's beaten her. Good god! This was painful to watch. And NO happy ending. Of all the shows I've seen, THIS is the one I want a follow-up where I hear she stayed with counseling and she & the children escaped.
You would hope, but not likely. She's trapped with this nutso, he made sure of that. Doubt anything has changed. Her best bet is Sam died of morbid obesity
Krispy: I’d cancel the cable, turn off the phone, and let the car sit in our driveway for a month or two before turning to a payday loan company. I have yet to have it satisfactory explained to me why those loans are not considered usury. The fact that Sam’s brother has “helped” them financially before was not lost on me. Or the fact that Sam said, “I will not have my oldest son, I mean, my children, go without,” also spoke volumes. There are a tonne of weird vibes in that immediate/extended family
When I heard Sam say " Just do what I tell you to do!" to Stephanie, my blood BOILED. You NEVER talk like that to a woman, or anyone ever! 🤬🗡 This is the first episode that I have seen to date where no check was given. I'm shook.
Check out Gail’s subsequent show Prince$$ (Princess). A few of the ladies stomp out of camera range empty handed. But the stakes aren’t as high as they are on this show, so it is more enjoyable in a guilty pleasure kind of way.
That guy is a narcissistic piece of work. He is gaslighting his wife on camera. Girl, run. She so right, she doesn’t need to seek money from her dad. She needs to seek shelter from her husband
This was such a firm picture of a narcissist even to the point of him ending the episode saying, “I’m never wrong,” that it almost felt like it had to be scripted. Could someone ACTUALLY be this textbook? Counseling is definitely needed all around. I feel for the kiddos.
Narc. They're all the same. This just gave me horrible flashbacks. The only solution for her is to take the kids and run as far as possible. For everyone's safety. I have so much respect for Gail. Wish I was more like her.
OMG I just noticed that he is so obsessed with himself that he actually had colored contacts in his eyes at the end of the show! His is such a self-centered child!
I saw this episode several years ago and tried to find out what happened to that couple. I wish they did follow-up shows. Nothing good in their future at this point.
This was really sad to watch. I hope she gets out of this situation before its too late. No one deserves to be in a marriage or relationship where your partner constantly cuts you down emotionally and sabotages you. Been there and I am thankful I walked away
😞People who think they are never wrong won't ever get far in life that's a fact. We have to learn from our mistakes and be willing to be wrong so we can get better and adapt.
I saw this and had flashbacks of arguments I had with my ex. I can only imagine how Sam berated her for getting more out of this than he did. If Sam is anything like my ex, he probably shamed her just for seeing a counselor because he knows she's not praising him in those sessions. My heart weeps for her and those kids.
Same. When he started barking at her I froze up, just like I used to when my ex used to do that. I sincerely hope the counseling worked and she left him.
I love how Gail came back with her purse (at the park) to help the woman. And this baboon saying "I'm never wrong" is delusional to the highest level of delusion.
When Gail tells you are in the biggest mess I’ve ever seen…you may want to leave or change the situation! 🙄😣 this man child will never change. He’s put them through hell and he’ll continue. He’s a narcissist
I hope Gail read him the riot act off camera. She clearly was itching to stand up for Stephanie. What an abusive, blaming, narcissistic, smug deadbeat of a man.
What a freaking nightmare that guy was. I really hope she left. For herself, and for those kids. And frankly it was hilarious that he thought he was better than other people because he had “flashy” stuff. Moron.. you don’t OWN any of it, it’s all borrowed money that you can’t pay back 😂
You don't tell narcasists what to do. They are special and deserve the best. You don't take away the narcasists toys. You don't not defend your narcasist when their toys are being taken or someone is saying a bad thing about them. The narcasist is never wrong.
So, he thinks he's right in bullying, demeaning, insulting and abusing her...which teaches his children to do the same!!! I can't believe she still hugged him! I want to know what cave he crawled out of. That poor wife and children...
As a financial advisor, I hope everyone learns from this episode, especially if you are still searching for your mate. To achieve financial success in your family, you need good communication with your partner. This matters more than income made or the gifts they buy you or occupation they have. Without a commitment to positive, productive communication...you will face tough challenges as a couple. These situations can also lead to financial infedility and financial abuse. Even if you are the caregiver and not working, get involved or at minimum build a relationship with a good trustworthy financial advisor who will help mitigate these conversations. I've Gail Oxley for this! She's my inspiration. I've been watching her since childhood and read her books.
I was waiting for this episode. I remember watching it with my mom when it first aired. I only saw it once but it stuck with me. I hope the lady was able to get away.
My Dad once told me that being a father was a thankless task but if you're doing it well your wife, your children, your home and its bills are your only priorities
Sam: "Stephanie, I gave you the opportunity to walk away a long time ago...if this is not what you want, the kids will..." Stephanie: "Whose saying any of that? No one is saying any of that." Everyone: STEPHANIE YOU NEED TO BE SAYING THAT!
I've been there. Those ultimatums are really hard, they somehow make you more attached. Partly because you know that if you take the opportunity the blow up will be of nuclear proportions, partly because they make you feel it's your failure, and a whole host of reasons. Plus you are confused and exhausted all the time. I hope she's ok now and I kinda hope he's miserable.
This woman needs to take her kids and run as fast as she can away from this abusive man. She would be better in a shelter than with this man. The ones who suffer are their children.
he complains she shuts down during communications but his intimidation and stare downs and blaming her for his choices while gaslighting her is sickening and the obvious reason she just shuts her mouth during “communications” “My feelings are so hurt Wah Wah Wah” Cant stand narcissistic men
I like how he says “I’m never wrong” but his stupidity is why he failed. He hates stupid people. B/c of how much he loathes how much smarter they are than him.
PLEEEAAAASSSSE DO A FOLLOW-UP ON THIS COUPLE. I pray she excepted the counseling, divorced him and received the help, method and motivation to do better for herself and her children.
He is so much like my ex-husband!!! The way he talks to her, the fact that he is "never wrong", that he refuses to admit that his family comes first - so many triggers! We declared bankruptcy twice and lost our house to foreclosure before I finally wised up and realized he would never change. This narcissistic, controlling behavior on his part and her shutting down (like I did) and waiting him out hit home. I hope she realizes that he is ruining her and the children's lives and gets out!
After being in a relationship with an abuser just like this man for 6 years, I was extremely triggered by this episode. I hope by now she’s ended up leaving him. She deserves so much better.
There was no way Gail was going to get through to them because like she said, the main issue was not the money but the relationship itself. I've always find myself surprised with people who fight so hard to hang on to something that, even to them, is broken. Like that relationship ran it's course and just like his need to keep up appearing with all the stuff he buys, that marriage is there to maintain an image. I really hope that she at least took Gail up on her offer for counseling. She cannot continue living in that environment. She has become completely compliant towards him and that is a true to shame for any person. This is truly the first time I was genuinely concerned for the safety of the spouse. Like i would not be surprised if he was physically abusive as well.
The fact that the financial expert got in the middle of the fight and stood on the wife’s side says volumes… I shudder at how he acts when the cameras aren’t rolling. If he’s willing to act that way on camera that says volumes
I was able to find Sam and Stephanie on Facebook. Looks like they're still married *sigh*. He posts A LOT on Facebook along with photos of them on vacation, his large family etc. I was hoping that she would've left him but they're still together.
OMG I know, I KNOW, that type of behavior. Ultimatums, pretend hurt, deflect, avoiding responsibility, the eyes of a scared child... this man is not just a jerk, he is a dangerous abuser. I wish I knew she got out.
This was heartbreaking to watch. That guy is so self righteous. His attitude will cost his family everything. I felt for the wife, I've been there years ago. Living with a narcissist wears a person down so much over time that you are left feeling helpless. I really hope that she did the counseling and learned her own worth as a woman. That relationship is never going to last unless he puts his ego aside and takes a hard look at his own accountability for the mess they are in.
Wow this episode was really sad. I don’t understand how at a minimum this guy won’t pay the mortgage. Many, many people get stuck in consumer debt, but to not make the mortgage payment when you have a job and four kids is unbelievable.
If Dave Ramsey was working with this couple, this is what I believe he would say: 1) Sell the cars and buy two beater cars since you don’t need any car payments. 2) You two (Stephanie and Sam) need to sell so much stuff. This includes your televisions, your screen projector, and anything of value. 3) You both (Stephanie and Sam) need to work extra jobs and work 80 hours a week, starting Now. 4) Stop going to payday lenders and getting cash advances because your spending more in interest. 5) Cut up the stupid credit cards and pay cash. 6) You’re going on a beans and rice, rice and beans diet and you’re not eating out unless you’re working at a restaurant and they provide you with a free meal.
That is a heavy thing to say but it's so right on. #6 Could be checking out recipes. Kraft and Betty Crocker have done some amazing receipes using chicken, pork, beef, etc and are amazing.
I wonder what happened after this episode aired. Her parents must have been horrified and when the brother learned his loan had not been used to pay the payday loan he must have been annoyed. I imagine the people around them must have reacted against them and got on her back to leave him. Hopefully with support.
I can tell he's of hispanic descent. It's in his blood for sure...you can tell by the way he treats his wife. I've been there and got divorced after 7 years. His money was his, I was the idiot always and he separated me from my family. That's exactly what I'm seeing here.
This was hard to watch. It's so sad. I wish she would just take the kids and leave...and when he said, "let's not forget where your bread is buttered". 🤬
Imagine how awful he is when the cameras aren’t around
I really hope she isn’t submitting to his tone. How awful.
He thinks he is right
I was thinking the same thing
This is super sad to watch
Yep yep yep yep yep!!! It is scary to think about 😪
Can we just appreciate how firmly Gail held on to proper boundaries/respect/responsibility while he lost it? She is one righteous tough cookie!
That is why she is loved and respected she doesn't mince words but she knows she is not a Psychological person
Love Gail!!! 👍👍👍🏆🏆✅
@@christinagonzalez4022 I do too. I learned so much from her.
Unfortunately, they're probably homeless by now because of arrogance and pride. Poor kids😢
@@bms0294Word! I would love to know what happened to these folks. They were the Couple that folks were the most stunned with and sympathetic with, most notably Stephanie. She's going to get her Van reposessed. Remember in Beyond The Attic, when Corrine lost alot of her stuff becuase she didn't pay from her dining room set, to the Oven and stove and she cried, how am I going to feed my children.
This guy is 100% abusive!! If he’s like that 1: On a tv show 2: in front of his kids 3: in public…can you imagine what he’s like behind closed doors!!?? Yikes! Really hope she left this maniac and is happy now.
Agreed. He's abusive! He's cut her off. She can't work much. Reminds her where he bread is buttered
@@janebaker4912 Stephanie needs to divorce Sam because their marriage and life is prison sentence.
I hope she left him and things are better for her and the children. As for him....
He is in complete control. His insecurities are coming out through pride. So sad she’s suffering.
@@christettec3045 As for him, he will go bust after she leaves him and hope that the lawyers and the judiciaries see this and make Sam totally go south.
I think in giving the wife counselling, Gail was hoping she would come to discover that she's in an abusive relationship with a narcissist, and get herself OUT.
💯 this is what is happening. I hope she took Gail up on the offer.
She's too OLD to change. Maybe if she was younger, MAYBE. Being this old? People dont make those kind of dramatic changes, extremely rare
It's never to late to change as long as you're above ground.
When you see crazy coming, cross the road
@@Dre2Dee2 lol she's too old to leave a relationship what are you even talking about?
This is by far the saddest episode I've ever seen. This narcissistic dude wanted to be right so bad that he sabotaged their progress to prove "he's never wrong."🤦🏽♀️
I imagine an update on them would show that they lost everything and their family was unfortunately torn appart; he tore it appart with his bare hands. 😢
Yes. I spotted the narcasist too
Prudence K not only is Sam narcissistic he's also so bullheaded and blind that he refuses to make the necessary sacrifices to improve his finances.
First thing I thought too. Narcissist and I noticed how much he is encouraging her to leave! I hope she got out of that relationship
I’d bet it was HIS idea to go on the show. I can’t imagine her convincing him to do anything. Then when it was a disaster, he blames her because in his words “I’m never wrong”. That poor woman. All he has on her is “you can’t do it without me”. Well HE got them deep in the hole. Even on 20,000 a year she’d be better off without his stupid spending and abuse.
@@marynorton6068 and, he is the reason they failed. He sabotaged it in my opinion, not wanting to make any changes, because he still wants to display the image of expensive things, and then claiming he knew it was a bad idea. Yeah, because you have been exposed for who you really are, narcissist don't want that.
I wish we could hear how the wife is doing.
This guy is awful. He treats his wife like she’s his punching bag. I feel terrible for her.
Family Zoo 4 this guy isn't just awful he's also a bully.
100% he is actually hitting her when the cameras are off.
And the problem is she puts up with it she lets him do it because she doesn’t make a lot of money so she lets him do it I’m sorry I won’t put my foot now it’s either my way or the highway honey you want all your crap there’s the door take a crap and don’t let it hit your ass on the way out you have screwed this family love or the last time is what I tell his sorry ass
@@johannamiller527 I doubt it. Most of his severe asides were delivered when Gail wasn’t around. Like all bullies he picks weaker targets. What IS sad is that over the years he has ground her self-esteem down to nothing. There is no spark in her eyes. He couldn’t have done it if she had shown any backbone earlier in their relationship, but their roles now are too firmly entrenched. She will only escape by physically leaving him, and I can’t see that happening.
I would not be surprised if he has already hit her or threatened to hit her. She has been ridiculed and dominated because she only makes $20k/year. So, he has the final say. She can’t raise 4 kids on that a year by herself. Unfortunately, he seems like dead beat dad material. So, she probably doesn’t see divorce as an option when she really needs a divorce to save herself. Plus, the children are seeing and are affected by all this daily drama!
Sam is a bully. He"s not going to change. He basically called her stupid. He is never wrong. I hope she left him.
I hope so too, she is way too pretty for him.
That episode was aired in 2010 which was quite a while ago. I hope she didn't stay with him.
And if he thinks he is never wrong, there is no sense her trying to say anything anyhow. 🙄
I imagine most stupid people can manage not to lose their houses twice in 7 years... His frivolous spending is clearly at fault.
Stephanie, if you’re watching this, please know that every viewer cares for you, your plight and your children. I genuinely hope you are in a better place now, where you feel safe and loved.
Amen! He is so abusive and he makes her think that she`s nothing without him. I wonder if his `Boss` saw this and how horrible he was. I am almost afraid to see how he is with Staff.
Amen.
Amen!🙌🏽
God Bless 🙌
Absolutely
Ive watched a ton of these episodes and this was BY FAR the most heartbreaking to watch. Walk away, Steph!
Run, don't walk.
Her husband is certainly a piece of work, and, if I may say so...wrong most of the time.
@@teresahegerich8835 I find it sad that he is taking everyone else down due to his wants, needs and attitude.
I feel the same.
She probably wanted to leave a long time ago.
The internets throws around the word “narcissist” a lot. Compare to this guy. He is the gold standard.
Yes. Narcissist is the word of the year. Pretty sure most people don't really understand what it means. Bipolar was last year's word.😆
You're giving me anxiety
"I am never wrong"..... run, girl, RUN!!!!
When I divorced my first husband after 18 years of marriage, I told him: finally, you won't be able to blame me for your failures... and he said, eyes wide, :but I don't have any failures!... fast forward 18 years later, he's broke, regrets that I divorced him. My self esteem was in the toilet before I divorced him.
" I gave you the opertunity to walk away a long time ago"
To think that you need to gift someone the option to leave you is absolute insanity.
Yes! I was looking for this comment, but only you said it. To me, this was the most telling thing he said in the entire episode.
I hope sje takes it now
Notice she doesn't have a good relationship with her parents?
Abusers cut you off and he's her "friend" and all she needs.
Her parents were saving money to give her when she divorced this abusive fool.
I think he has Napoleon syndrome also - he is a short guy & has to have his stuff be BIG cause he is not.....
This episode first aired 10+ years ago, which is a lucky thing for Sam because he would have been eviscerated on social media and likely would have lost his job for the abusive behaviour he exhibited towards his wife. He showed how he not only emotionally and psychologically abused her, but also financially - financial abuse is a very real thing that isn’t talked about nearly enough. By making significantly less than her husband Stephanie felt like she couldn’t go at it alone - which is exactly what he wanted. He is a walking red flag and malignant narcissist. Men like this are dangerous. Imagine what he’s like behind closed doors when cameras aren’t rolling.
Perfectly put. I pity that poor woman. I hope she got herself out of the relationship and is now doing well.
I love how Gail holds everyone responsible for the mess THEY created. When he yelled at his wife in front of Gail and the cameras, I almost cried for her.
I can't believe what I just watched! That man was horrible. So sad. If she ends up leaving him, she would have gained a lot more than $5,000.
This was horrible to watch. He is so abusive. Gail takes his car away, he immediately starts abusing his wife. Shouting “don’t forget where your bread is buttered”. Well dude, it’s not with you. You are so awful with money she’d be financially better off without you. Money aside she’d be better off without you in every way. I feel like she’s bought his lies that she can’t manage without him. I hope she escaped.
This made me tear up a bit. My child's father was the same. He made me feel like we'd suffer if I left. I'm happy to say we're fine and doing better without him. I'm living proof that you're better off without a narcissist.
@@ceasing2exist well done. I can only imagine it was really difficult. Proof you’re much stronger than he gave you credit for.
She is trying to in not so many words tell her - you are being abused and need to seek help. The husband is a head case who I would fear will keep her down until he replaces HER with the next shiny thing and puts the new wife through a ringer as well with his high amounts of debt and propensity for dishonesty.
i am pretty sure by this time,there is no more bread, or butter, or a cupboard to put the bread in or a refrigerator for the butter. what a complete tool.
@@brandilowe1916 Can i get a witness. He is living in a cheap apt and getting food from a Food Bank
That man is a full blown narcissist. Gail did the best thing by providing an avenue for counseling.
Agree!!!!!
Yes!
Yes !! I think her getting counseling and seeing the verbally abusive relationship for what it is more beneficial than getting $5K to stay in something that is harmful for her and her kids.
And in typical narcissist fashion he didn't see the need to talk to anyone....
I'm 100% positive that they lost the house, went bankrupt and are divorced by now. Classic abuser behavior. Classic narcissist behavior. That man is an idiot.
I've never seen Gail give zero on this show. Even that one really obnoxious couple got $1000. I once heard Gail say the reason no one got zero before was because she always thought that there must be someone worse. Well, she finally met "worse".
There have been a few Princesses that didn't get a cheque in the end. Sam and Stephanie got three weeks of their budget, $900.00 because they had nothing to live on. So sad.
Stephanie needs to RUN, not walk out of that relationship that guy needs some VERY serious help.
@@nancybailey4417 Yeah I was only referring to this show. I know some of those princesses didn't get a dime.
@@jodyschweiner6356 Yes, however, to guote him, "I am never wrong" means he will never admit to needing help.
Even with the $900 they gave them they still didn’t take her advice.
When he says "can you understand that? You want to repeat it after me?" What utter disrespect for your mate.
He said son. He forgot he had other kids. Narcasists have a golden child
I picked up on that too
I just left a comment on that upstream. I would love to know the story behind that slip of the tongue. Did he simply pick a favourite early on? Was THIS the grasshopper he thought would be destined to be most like Daddy? Is Junior the result of an affair, the one Sam (possibly) alluded to when he told Steff he offered her a chance to leave years ago?
This is by far the saddest case I’ve seen on this show. If he’s that nasty to his on camera, imagine what he does to her behind closed doors. I’m more concerned with her safety than I am their finances.
When Stephine said “I can’t believe you can’t help us” I wanted the throw the phone. You won’t help yourself!!!
This is a narcissist.
She was set to a women's centre!! Like get the clue! You're in an abusive relationship
For having been in a bad spot myself relationship (although not THAT OFF) wise she probably doesnt know how to get off and making it on her own without impacting the kids well-being too much! I honestly hope she leaves and contact Gail to help herself out and get 5000$ that way as a single mom....
It was him he wanted to give up nothing
Gail must have been in a hard place. Knowing that there was absolutely nothing she could do must have been so hard. She did her best to get that woman the help she actually needed but until Stephanie can see, nothing can be done.
@@michelecleansup yes. That last "I thought you could help us" tells me she thinks the only way to help is to be given more money!!!! So that's why her family cut her off.
Sometime I think she might be just as bad because of the comment about the kids not wanting small kitchy things. But he is the bigger problem
He is her "best friend?" She doesn't need any other enemies, that's for sure. This was sad. I really hope she got the help she needed. No relationship is worth that kind of abuse.
My heart hurts for Stephanie and the children. This is the first episode that I have watched of this show that left me in tears! I don't think they are going to be able to keep their home, let alone their marriage.
Sell the house get rid off all the debt and leave him start over with the kids you deserve better
I don’t think it’s that easy in this particular case. If they each own half he could stall for a while by refusing to sign the legal documents. And considering their terrible credit history, they probably had to get a co-signer to even get this mortgage. (Again, I am just speculating.) But I sincerely hope they didn’t involve a 3rd party in their mess, because they are ruining enough lives as it is.
Oh I suspect the house and most other things are in his name. If she had control of a0ny of it she would have done something. Course would have had to face probable death after doing it...
She only makes $20K a year and has 4 kids. There's no way she can survive on her own unless he would pay a ton of child support, which I doubt he would do. If she walks away he will justify not taking care of his own kids because "she left me" so it's her problem. That guy is scary. What a mess.
@@joannewolfe5688In the states. If he doesn't pay and she goes on state aid. The government will take it out of his paycheck. He has to pay now or later.
@@joannewolfe5688 This is a little late, but wages in 🇨🇦 will also be garnished if a parent refuses to pay court-mandated support. However, I had friends whose exes were in the trades/self-employed and they found ways around the system. Getting paid under the table, declaring less than they actually made, and other cute little tricks. And my friends weren’t asking for spousal support, just support for their mutual kids. I still cannot understand how a parent can turn their back on their child. Your hatred for your ex is more powerful than your love for your kid? I will never understand.
He’s horrible. I can only imagine how he talks to her behind closed doors. He gaslights her and blames her for all the problems. He’s absolutely TERRIBLE!
I wish these shows would have a mandatory follow up one year later. We could see where they are.
"Sam is currently serving a life sentence for the murder of his ex-wife."
@@Dre2Dee2 that not funny and just sick to joke about!! You should be ashamed of yourself.
Steph, if you see this please let us know you are alright.
I pray for her. I am sure this episode was an Eye Opener for many folks
There were so many things they could have sold to make that 1500, borrowing more from family was a ridiculous solution. 🙄
Yeah! I didn’t get that either! They could have had a huge garage sale, returned that projector, and then pawned their weddings to get out of that payday loan. So next month…no car or homeowner insurance, no phones, then month after that…car repo, foreclosure notice / eviction, then…bankruptcy, and finally…no wife or kids! His ego cashes checks that his wallet and brain can’t handle. Sad, truly sad.
That’s the first thing I thought about when they found out they had to raise the money
I guess it shows how entitled he is
He would never let go of anything he had. He did what he always had done which was bully his brother for money. I suspect that happened because he couldn't succeed in bullying her to get money from her family. There is no way he would ever let anyone he knows think they had money issues so he's told the brother he needs a quick shot of 'just $1500 because she screwed something up. This poor woman. Her life was hell. I hope she was able to save herself.
They do have a lot of TVs they could certainly do without.
This makes me so happy. I been a single mum fir years and never have ever been evicted, had my car repossessed. Never has my son gone to bed hungry. Right now we are just getting back from Washington DC where l took him for his 21st birthday. Life needs to make sense.
Little Napoleon - he is a short, bald, egotistical nobody. Ladies, if this isn’t proof that you need to get the education/training for a good paying career, I don’t know what is. When your only option is a low paying job that would never be enough to support 3 children - you give all your power to what often is a controlling narcissist. Please, please teach this to your daughters.🇺🇸❤🇨🇦
There isn't even a case of "you should", this is pure case of "you must run".
Hadn't seen this episode before and all I can say is 'Wow, what a jerk!' His family is almost out on the street and he doesn't want to sell the house and start with a clean slate. What are all those people going to think when you're living in your car because they've taken everything else. And what's going to happen to his kids? He reminds me of the Princesses with their entitled attitudes who can't live the life they want unless someone else is footing the bill.
They might end up in a shelter, I hope she can divorce this very very bad man.
@@capestreasuresPtown Word! I thought Simone and Frank were bad. Dear God this is heartbreaking 🥺. They don't budget. Minimum Payments don't work. The interest rates are horrifying.
Yes I saw the prequel to Flowers In The Attic. Corrine really fell on hard times. When Christopher dies she sees the truth of their finances. Bonechilling.
Are they behind on just her car or his too? If his isn't paid either they would be lucky if they had a tent.
@@jennifermarques6159 Both! If The Repo man comes along to take The Cars back and people see, that is humiliating.
When you're forced to deal with a person that never thinks they're wrong and blames everyone but themselves for the problems in their lives, and also refuses to change, then you have to, HAVE TO! WALK AWAY! These types end up drowning in their problems before they deal with them, and they often grab onto anyone around them as they go down, taking those people down with them. It hurts to watch, especially if you're close with them. It's seriously painful medicine.
I think this is what Gail believes also that is why she left her a gift of counseling and he mad because he does not want his wife to wake up and leave him because more expensive for him not because he loves her because I can see the hate in his eyes when he looks at her saddd😢
FACTS
If you meet a person who is never wrong and everyone else is stupid or bad: run for your life.
Without you girl. 10 years later I hope you are free from abuse!
He came into this with the attitude that it wasn't going to work. He didn't want it to work, so it didn't.
He sabotaged it. He killed it before he heard a word. Poor Stephanie. I agree with the previous poster: my conviction is that he's beaten her. Good god! This was painful to watch. And NO happy ending. Of all the shows I've seen, THIS is the one I want a follow-up where I hear she stayed with counseling and she & the children escaped.
You would hope, but not likely. She's trapped with this nutso, he made sure of that. Doubt anything has changed. Her best bet is Sam died of morbid obesity
Not all abuse is physical. Plenty of abusive men and women that have never laid a finger on their SO
How have they NOT paid that loan off after a month?!? His brother literally gave him the money!!
Krispy: I’d cancel the cable, turn off the phone, and let the car sit in our driveway for a month or two before turning to a payday loan company. I have yet to have it satisfactory explained to me why those loans are not considered usury. The fact that Sam’s brother has “helped” them financially before was not lost on me. Or the fact that Sam said, “I will not have my oldest son, I mean, my children, go without,” also spoke volumes. There are a tonne of weird vibes in that immediate/extended family
When I heard Sam say " Just do what I tell you to do!" to Stephanie, my blood BOILED. You NEVER talk like that to a woman, or anyone ever! 🤬🗡
This is the first episode that I have seen to date where no check was given. I'm shook.
Check out Gail’s subsequent show Prince$$ (Princess). A few of the ladies stomp out of camera range empty handed. But the stakes aren’t as high as they are on this show, so it is more enjoyable in a guilty pleasure kind of way.
I sincerely hope she left his sorry ass. He’s abusive and probably 100x worse when no one else is around.
i seriously think her money situation would improve without him in her life. HE is the reason why they are in so much debt.
That guy is a narcissistic piece of work. He is gaslighting his wife on camera. Girl, run.
She so right, she doesn’t need to seek money from her dad. She needs to seek shelter from her husband
This was such a firm picture of a narcissist even to the point of him ending the episode saying, “I’m never wrong,” that it almost felt like it had to be scripted. Could someone ACTUALLY be this textbook? Counseling is definitely needed all around. I feel for the kiddos.
Narc. They're all the same. This just gave me horrible flashbacks. The only solution for her is to take the kids and run as far as possible. For everyone's safety. I have so much respect for Gail. Wish I was more like her.
OMG I just noticed that he is so obsessed with himself that he actually had colored contacts in his eyes at the end of the show! His is such a self-centered child!
Wow! Unbelievable. Would love an update. I hope she cut her losses and is happy.
I saw this episode several years ago and tried to find out what happened to that couple. I wish they did follow-up shows. Nothing good in their future at this point.
This was really sad to watch. I hope she gets out of this situation before its too late. No one deserves to be in a marriage or relationship where your partner constantly cuts you down emotionally and sabotages you. Been there and I am thankful I walked away
This is the first time I’ve seen this episode. I can’t believe they, or I should say-he, thought they were going to get $5 thousand dollars. Unreal!
This is what an emotionally abusive relationship looks like. :( So sad...
😞People who think they are never wrong won't ever get far in life that's a fact. We have to learn from our mistakes and be willing to be wrong so we can get better and adapt.
My eight year old knows that better than this guy!!!
@@NaturallyKristen86 IKR. I just got done watching this whole episode and I am emotionally wiped out. That poor woman, Stephanie.
What a sad episode. I hope this lady left him. She doesn’t deserve any of this narcissism. Insane.
I saw this and had flashbacks of arguments I had with my ex. I can only imagine how Sam berated her for getting more out of this than he did. If Sam is anything like my ex, he probably shamed her just for seeing a counselor because he knows she's not praising him in those sessions. My heart weeps for her and those kids.
Same. When he started barking at her I froze up, just like I used to when my ex used to do that. I sincerely hope the counseling worked and she left him.
I love how Gail came back with her purse (at the park) to help the woman. And this baboon saying "I'm never wrong" is delusional to the highest level of delusion.
When Gail tells you are in the biggest mess I’ve ever seen…you may want to leave or change the situation! 🙄😣 this man child will never change. He’s put them through hell and he’ll continue. He’s a narcissist
That emotional abuse is straight up DV. I really hope she worked up the courage to leave and be happy 😔
Worst. Husband. Ever. No exaggeration. I hope she left him.
I hope Gail read him the riot act off camera. She clearly was itching to stand up for Stephanie. What an abusive, blaming, narcissistic, smug deadbeat of a man.
@@indigoaunaturale I agree with you.
@@indigoaunaturale Agreed 💯
He is a good actor. It must have been a really good line he used to reel her in to begin with.
What a freaking nightmare that guy was. I really hope she left. For herself, and for those kids. And frankly it was hilarious that he thought he was better than other people because he had “flashy” stuff. Moron.. you don’t OWN any of it, it’s all borrowed money that you can’t pay back 😂
“I’m not selling the house”. No he would rather have the sherif come move everything out and deposit it, all of the TVs and his kids on the curb
You don't tell narcasists what to do. They are special and deserve the best. You don't take away the narcasists toys. You don't not defend your narcasist when their toys are being taken or someone is saying a bad thing about them. The narcasist is never wrong.
So, he thinks he's right in bullying, demeaning, insulting and abusing her...which teaches his children to do the same!!! I can't believe she still hugged him! I want to know what cave he crawled out of. That poor wife and children...
He is a horrible husband hopefully you dumped him like your debt
As a financial advisor, I hope everyone learns from this episode, especially if you are still searching for your mate. To achieve financial success in your family, you need good communication with your partner. This matters more than income made or the gifts they buy you or occupation they have. Without a commitment to positive, productive communication...you will face tough challenges as a couple. These situations can also lead to financial infedility and financial abuse. Even if you are the caregiver and not working, get involved or at minimum build a relationship with a good trustworthy financial advisor who will help mitigate these conversations. I've Gail Oxley for this! She's my inspiration. I've been watching her since childhood and read her books.
I was waiting for this episode. I remember watching it with my mom when it first aired. I only saw it once but it stuck with me. I hope the lady was able to get away.
My Dad once told me that being a father was a thankless task but if you're doing it well your wife, your children, your home and its bills are your only priorities
Sam: "Stephanie, I gave you the opportunity to walk away a long time ago...if this is not what you want, the kids will..."
Stephanie: "Whose saying any of that? No one is saying any of that."
Everyone: STEPHANIE YOU NEED TO BE SAYING THAT!
I've been there. Those ultimatums are really hard, they somehow make you more attached. Partly because you know that if you take the opportunity the blow up will be of nuclear proportions, partly because they make you feel it's your failure, and a whole host of reasons. Plus you are confused and exhausted all the time. I hope she's ok now and I kinda hope he's miserable.
This woman needs to take her kids and run as fast as she can away from this abusive man.
She would be better in a shelter than with this man. The ones who suffer are their children.
"I am never wrong". And that, my dear fellow, is exactly why you're in the mess you're in.
Are you willing to do anything to save your family?
Sam: yes
Okay drive a different car
Sam: That’s just not me as a person
20:58 😂 they are bankrupt and divorced because he thinks he is “never wrong”
I recently discovered this show and have been watching a bunch of the episodes. I love Gail’s no nonsense approach and telling it like it is.
Is this still on
Gail did the right thing. She is so wise!!
She really knows her stuff. That is why she is such an Icon. Has she gotten any awards
he complains she shuts down during communications but his intimidation and stare downs and blaming her for his choices while gaslighting her is sickening and the obvious reason she just shuts her mouth during “communications”
“My feelings are so hurt Wah Wah Wah” Cant stand narcissistic men
He is emotionally abusive. I hope she left!
Yessssss
I love how Gail got between Stephanie & Sam when he was screaming and threatening his wife like a lunatic.
Gail: "SAM! You lost it......"
Gail looked like she wanted to deck him!
This is the worst husband I have seen on this show. He acts like a baller and he doesn’t earn enough money for the lifestyle he wants.
RUN Stephanie, RUN!!!
I like how he says “I’m never wrong” but his stupidity is why he failed.
He hates stupid people. B/c of how much he loathes how much smarter they are than him.
That comment towards his wife REALLY stung. I gasped...
🤣🤣
This man is the ultimate Til Debt Do Us Part heel.
PLEEEAAAASSSSE DO A FOLLOW-UP ON THIS COUPLE. I pray she excepted the counseling, divorced him and received the help, method and motivation to do better for herself and her children.
That episode was aired more than 10 years ago
The show aired in the 90s. Its been off the air for a l ong time.
He is so much like my ex-husband!!! The way he talks to her, the fact that he is "never wrong", that he refuses to admit that his family comes first - so many triggers! We declared bankruptcy twice and lost our house to foreclosure before I finally wised up and realized he would never change. This narcissistic, controlling behavior on his part and her shutting down (like I did) and waiting him out hit home. I hope she realizes that he is ruining her and the children's lives and gets out!
“Lets not forget where your bread is buttered!”
Lord help him.
He literally doesn't even have money. The bank is breading her *and his* butter.
He's an absolutely despicable man. It was so hard to watch.
How has he managed to keep a job, let alone a family with that dumpster fire of a personality? What a PoS.
I have often wondered what his then/current co-workers think when they see this episode. If I worked near him I’d start carrying Mace!
After being in a relationship with an abuser just like this man for 6 years, I was extremely triggered by this episode. I hope by now she’s ended up leaving him. She deserves so much better.
There was no way Gail was going to get through to them because like she said, the main issue was not the money but the relationship itself. I've always find myself surprised with people who fight so hard to hang on to something that, even to them, is broken. Like that relationship ran it's course and just like his need to keep up appearing with all the stuff he buys, that marriage is there to maintain an image. I really hope that she at least took Gail up on her offer for counseling. She cannot continue living in that environment. She has become completely compliant towards him and that is a true to shame for any person. This is truly the first time I was genuinely concerned for the safety of the spouse. Like i would not be surprised if he was physically abusive as well.
The fact that the financial expert got in the middle of the fight and stood on the wife’s side says volumes… I shudder at how he acts when the cameras aren’t rolling. If he’s willing to act that way on camera that says volumes
I was able to find Sam and Stephanie on Facebook. Looks like they're still married *sigh*. He posts A LOT on Facebook along with photos of them on vacation, his large family etc. I was hoping that she would've left him but they're still together.
That's so disappointing to hear! He was awful to her.
That’s so sad. I pray one day she’ll be able to leave him.
He is horrible but they made no changes toward their dilemma and the payday loans. Crazy! I really hope she left him.
I am addicted to this show. Also it makes me more careful about my spending.
OMG I know, I KNOW, that type of behavior. Ultimatums, pretend hurt, deflect, avoiding responsibility, the eyes of a scared child... this man is not just a jerk, he is a dangerous abuser. I wish I knew she got out.
First time - "Don't give them anything Gail! Neither of them deserve it!"
...ohmydam! Go Gail! 🎉🎉🎉
People who have this level of arrogance alway fall the hardest. Horrible husband!
This was heartbreaking to watch. That guy is so self righteous. His attitude will cost his family everything. I felt for the wife, I've been there years ago. Living with a narcissist wears a person down so much over time that you are left feeling helpless. I really hope that she did the counseling and learned her own worth as a woman. That relationship is never going to last unless he puts his ego aside and takes a hard look at his own accountability for the mess they are in.
"I am never wrong"... buddy - ur wrong every day of the week - the evidence of that is how your life is in the toilet! Finances and family....
Wow this episode was really sad. I don’t understand how at a minimum this guy won’t pay the mortgage. Many, many people get stuck in consumer debt, but to not make the mortgage payment when you have a job and four kids is unbelievable.
If Dave Ramsey was working with this couple, this is what I believe he would say:
1) Sell the cars and buy two beater cars since you don’t need any car payments.
2) You two (Stephanie and Sam) need to sell so much stuff. This includes your televisions, your screen projector, and anything of value.
3) You both (Stephanie and Sam) need to work extra jobs and work 80 hours a week, starting Now.
4) Stop going to payday lenders and getting cash advances because your spending more in interest.
5) Cut up the stupid credit cards and pay cash.
6) You’re going on a beans and rice, rice and beans diet and you’re not eating out unless you’re working at a restaurant and they provide you with a free meal.
That is a heavy thing to say but it's so right on. #6 Could be checking out recipes. Kraft and Betty Crocker have done some amazing receipes using chicken, pork, beef, etc and are amazing.
Sam is why I refuse to ever get remarried. Guys like that need to be alone forever and whine on dating sites that no one wants a good man.
I wonder what happened after this episode aired. Her parents must have been horrified and when the brother learned his loan had not been used to pay the payday loan he must have been annoyed. I imagine the people around them must have reacted against them and got on her back to leave him. Hopefully with support.
I can tell he's of hispanic descent. It's in his blood for sure...you can tell by the way he treats his wife. I've been there and got divorced after 7 years. His money was his, I was the idiot always and he separated me from my family. That's exactly what I'm seeing here.
This was hard to watch. It's so sad. I wish she would just take the kids and leave...and when he said, "let's not forget where your bread is buttered". 🤬