"There's No Bodies To Recover, The Implosion Is So Rapid" | Former US Navy Captain on Titanic Sub
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2023
- Former US Navy Captain David Marquet tells TalkTV that people should not expect to find any remains following the deaths aboard the Titan submersible.
He warned that people underestimate the power of the sea, and speaking about the damage caused by an underwater implosion in the depths of the ocean he said: "I hate to say it but there's no bodies to recover. The implosion is so rapid."
When they say catastrophic implosion, it is a instantaneous destruction of the vessel and an instantaneous death for everyone on board."
James Cameron says he is “struck by the similarity” of the Titan submersible tragedy and the sinking of the Titanic in 1912.
The Hollywood director said many in the deep submergence engineering community had been “deeply concerned” about the OceanGate Expeditions craft that was reported missing on Sunday.
Cameron, who directed 1997 Oscar-winning film Titanic, has designed and built similar submersibles and had himself visited the wreckage of the famous ocean liner 33 times.
OceanGate announced on Thursday that the pilot and four passengers of the missing Titan submersible were believed to be dead.
The tail cone was found around 1,600ft from the bow of the Titanic, which sank in the North Atlantic Ocean in 1912.
The guy they fired for calling this submersible a safety hazard must have a good few words for this company. Probably the biggest “I told you so” this year.
The guy they fired for calling this submarine a safety hazard didn't cave in to pressure.
@@MagnumCartalulz
@@MagnumCartanever too soon, just the right time
The guy actually has a lawsuit against the company for it too and with the new events he will probably win
ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!! This should have NEVER EVER happened!
I appreciate the fact that he said what no one else had the balls to say. “There are no bodies to be recovered”
At 5,700 psi of instant water pressure .... like a half a stick of dynamite in a melon
I'm glad he made it clear that people do underestimate the power of the ocean.
Unless you want body parts and trust me, the big fishes has already gotten to that!
yes agreed
These 5 are part of history 😢 family can view it as burial at sea
The guy who got fired for the warning must feel so relieved.
But he spoke up and got fired but in his heart, he knows he did the right thing. Those deaths are not on his consciousness and he knows he did everything he can to prevent it
He’s probably not at all relieved knowing what happened after he clearly sounded alarm bells that were ignorantly silenced.
Any info on the story of who was fired? I'd be interested to read that...
@@engineereells79same
I'd argue he feels worse. Screaming into the void, only able to watch as they essentially committed suicide.
whistle blowers always get screwed. The blood is now on someone else's hands.
The guy that was fired for sounding off warnings for how badly designed this vessel was is free of blood guilt. The biggest “I told you so” of the decade.
Century tbh
Seriously!
Who was fired?
@@jeffreykaufmann2867 The engineer.
@@triggeredcat120 Idiotic decision
The CEO said it himself "I want to be remembered for breaking the rules." Well, he achieved that at least.
Very eerily similar to the man that wanted to make headlines arriving in NY early on the Titanic..he too got his headlines
Why would he want to be remembered for that though.
And not in a good way.
One rule he never broke was the rules of physics.
@@Jackholiday1025 He thought he would be hailed as an innovator, for pushing boundaries instead of getting caught up in red tape and bureaucracy by exercising due diligence and getting his subs certified for safety.
Being instantaneously emulsified seems a better option that being knowingly stuck on the bottom of the ocean waiting to die. Prayers to families.
Agreed
Was thinking the same thing
I guess but gotdamn that’s scary
emulsified? there was soap involved?
@Hendizzy ya, but it's infinitely less scary than being stuck in a dark cold and cramped confined space for 90 hours with 4 other people while you slowly suffocate.
He ignored the pressure test, but he can't ignore the ocean's pressure test.
Ayn Rand
I saw a video from a guy that took a44 Oz Styrofoam cup down in the foam and it compressed to a solid little 2 or 3 in block. Crazy
They did multiple lab pressure tests on the vessel. But the ocean did one single pressure test on them
Feel sorry for the young boy that wanted to please his father and the families 😢
Agree. The others wanted to and paid for the ride knowing full well the risk involved. He was the only one who didn’t want to go.
like ..epstein and other evil devil worshippers... faked their exit..while the 100+ yrs titanic sits pretty intact!!!.. do not believe the devil worshippers lot...LIARS!!!
@@anneboorman8754 He begged his aunt to stay home. He was scared. What a disgusting, horrid family/father... he was only 19.
ha ha ha ha
@@rainy4354How would anyone know this would have happened? If it had all gone well, you’d be saying that that dad was wonderful for encouraging his son to go through with it. We can’t judge when all we have is hindsight, it’s not fair.
It's a small blessing that they went quickly instead of suffering locked inside. Let's let the Titanic rest in peace now.
So what were the knocking noises they heard?
@@basicinfo2022ould’ve been a ton of things but the Navy also heard the implosion around the time the sub disappeared
Yeah, no kidding.
I agree. Let the site be. It’s a grave site. We’ve mapped it, recovered artifacts from it. Studied it adnauseum. Time to let the deceased rest in peace.
@@basicinfo2022 I grew up on and under the Atlantic. You'd be surprised how much sound there is underwater, especially when near metal, or a wreck. Sound can travel underwater and it doesn't always sound below like it does above.
As an ex US Navy submariner I agree with everything said. This was a tragedy on several levels and appears that blatant incompetence and disregard for engineering and safety may well have played a factor.
And a blatant disregard for the ocean and its destructive power.
Millionaires, unfortunately, think rules don't apply to them. Even the laws of nature, apparently. Very sad.
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Yes, The Implosion Factor.
Despite safety concerns by experts, they were negligently ignored by the founder. The submersible was a safety mess. Lives were lost because of one man's ignorance and greed. May they rest in peace,
I’ve worked as a reliability engineer, focused on pressure vessels >100-200ft tall, like reactors, fired heaters, fixed equipment in large oil refineries. The owner of submersible advertised using material, parts from oil & gas industry because they seem like similar concepts, (math, physics, etc), but they’re NOT interchangeable!
As for why, generally - in prior work, and in most industrial applications, equipment is designed for containing pressure, heat, material inside, with stress induced by differential pressure between inside and atmosphere, where the materials are under tensile stress. The big BUT is that the materials for the submersible are under COMPRESSION, while most industrial off-shelf-parts, piping, etc, are designed for TENSILE stress (internal forces loaded in opposite direction!). So, that’s one BIG reason why they shouldn’t have been using off-the-shelf parts, metal, piping designed for different conditions! IT WASN’T DESIGNED FOR THAT! He might have had made vessel from material rated for super high tensile strength, but a fraction of that in compression!
I can only imagine that engineer is also furious. Unfortunately, the owner here, hired that engineer for his expertise and to analyze critical safety of the prototype structure, only to ignore him for doing his job, which was to make sure no one dies! *I can say from experience, no one likes to listen to the reliability & safety engineers, because from perspective of a penny-pinching management, we are all harbingers of doom and “bad news”.* Like requests for money to fix or upgrade something that hasn’t broken yet, because our “tea leaves” predict it will fail soon! *An engineer is only a messenger for divine numbers we ritually bleed from the sacred governing equations, guided by our scripture of the all-mighty ASME and API codes! In LaPlace we trust!*
That’s why I always included the financial risks/costs of doing nothing and letting equipment run to fail, “well if you do nothing, know that there’s a __% probability that in __ time it blows up,..costs..death..money…lawsuits money, etc. Now that I told you the risks, it’s on you to ignore me.” Basically, the whole presentation and technical justifications are just a polite and professional way for an engineer or subject-matter-expert to tell management, “Fuck Around. Find Out” 😂
Multiple engineers and other experts walked away from this company or warned they were playing with fire. It's inconceivable that the other founder of OceanGate is still maintaining we should "wait and see" what happened to their toy boat before making any judgment, but it's totally fucking clear that they were mavericks who didn't know what they hell they were doing and exploiting loopholes in maritime and safety regulations to the max.
Your last quote is classic 👏 My son works on huge lime/cement kilns and many times noticed near failures of trunions and such and passes the soon-to- be failures to upper management. "Run it anyway!" they say. Until....
That phrase is being use around alot lately. Humans fighting for top spots on the news.
The engineer was white that's why the CEO didn't listen.
the owner was in hte sub, not sure he is that worried about it anymore.
Glad he had the courage to talk about the lack of bodies, everyone else was skirting the issue.
like ..epstein and other evil devil worshippers... faked their exit..while the 100+ yrs titanic sits pretty intact!!!.. do not believe the devil worshippers lot...LIARS!!!
atomised. literally.
They don’t need to because it’s obvious
@@Louellastarknot really. It’s not obvious at all- if you don’t know anything about implosions, you’re not gonna know what would happen to the bodies underwater. I had to do a ton of research to figure out what specifically happened to the bodies
@@LostProxyNevermoreA tonne of research??
Stop exaggerating. It’s a quick google search, nothing more.
The man was trying to be very delicate on how he responded regarding potential body ‘recovery’ because he knew exactly why their wouldn’t be any of that going on.
and such is life and death every damn day all around this world
Yeah I think some people just don't understand the pressures at those depths, and the concussive force of an implosion. Within just a few milliseconds, they were turned into a red cloud in the water. There won't be any recovery, they are just particles now. It was an instant burial at sea, they had no time to even comprehend.
Fish food..giving back to the ocean
You can see videos of pressure implosions on here, it's like a balloon popping but in reverse.
learn to spell
Spoken like a true captain. Didn’t cater to anyones feelings other than telling us what happen. No sugarcoating or beating around the bush besides telling us, they’re dead.
Its a fact . If he said anything else it would be a lie. I dont see the bravery
NONSENSE... I want to see some type of animation video as to what happens to human bodies when an implosion occurs at these depths (10,000+/- feet)
There’s no BSing when it comes to the ocean
delta P
@@byrons1339 Imagine a watermelon in a hydraulic press.
This breaks my heart. I'm glad it was instant because literally waiting to suffocate would be terrifying,but it's still such a tragic event. Prayers for the family and friends they left behind🙏
Not many has mentioned this but it really sucks for the family members who will forever have this gruesome image in their head. A completely avoidable incident.
meat paste consumed by creatures in the darkest depths on earth.
@@cory8837 im sure their lives, hopes and dreams imploded when they were told the news.
@@cory8837that was tacky
Granted. But I'd sure as fuck want to hear that my family member was vapourised in less time it takes for the spinal column to inform the brain.
@@DrewJPSand it would still take a few more seconds for the body to even start to feel pain because of all the processing from shock, remember playing football when you were a kid? You got slammed to the ground that first few seconds you didn't know what was going on, they called it seeing Stars remember?
I was actually genuinely shocked when people started asking about body recovery… like… are you listening?
Me too! Bloody idiots 🙄.
was there body recovery tho?
@@palap9506try listening
There are a lot of ignorant folks out there but hopefully some are more the wiser learning about sea exploration.
I mean, if it wasn't instantaneous, there could be bodies still.
But as everything suggests on the contrary, then yeah, they were liquefied.
And the 19 year old aunt said he didn't want to go, that he was terrified, but he went for his dad. Now that is tragic.
Follow your own heart aka instinct.
I know it’s so sad he just wanted to please his dad for Father’s Day :(
He had a gut feeling
Omg. Seriously ?
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This is a very sad and seemingly avoidable situation for all involved. My condolence to all family and friends. Excellent concise information from Captain David. Seems like a lot of negativity was rumoured prior to this voyage.
This is so messed up! My heart ❤️ goes out to the family left behind at home! I pray that they can find some healing in time!
The US navy captain really hits the nail when he described what's left of a person subjected to 400X atmospheric pressure!
Even just 9 atmospheres can really mess you up as the people aboard the Byford Dolphin found out one horrible day.
@@killman369547
For context, there are images of that incident and the bodies look like ground beef.
Can't imagine 400 atmospheres.
Edit: Question was theoretical. Comment to someone else. You're taking up my notifications.
So what about fish which live in that environment,are they made of titanium?
Events like this makes me realise how vulnerable the human body is, and how powerful the sea is.
@@Panther-yes. The fish are made of titanium that deep.
Imagine being stuck for 3 days, in the freezing cold, no food or water, claustrophobic conditions. That would be a far worse death than the implosion that happened on descent.
Good thing that wasn’t the case
I'm just happy it took 3 days for this to happen. I hope the faces of all they people wronged showed up
In complete ocean darkness 2 miles underwater
Breathing in nothing but farts after day 3
@@TaterTotsNFanta fr 3 days no shower
My heart goes out to the families. It's heartbreaking 💔
heart crushing*
Best report and interview I've seen on this. Ty.
This tragedy could have been avoided if the developer would have listened to engineers and would have gotten the proper certifications.
Too late for all that
It wouldn't have passed any certifications, that's why he didn't get it done.
A few more 50 year old experts in the field (of whatever ehtnicity) to coach the young ones
it's sad but he didn't have to being in international waters
In his defense, the engineers were white guys
You can feel pressure just diving to the bottom of a swimming pool.
Now add 600 million tons per square inch at nearly 2.5 mile depth
exactly
It's like all the Empire State on top of you.
@@matheusfonseca82385 times
@@wileecoyote5749it’s 6,000 psi not 600 million tons psi nothing could stand 600 million tons psi
This was absolutely horrible. Too many times companies would rather save money than keep people safe. Now 5 people are dead. This is so heartbreaking. My condolences go out to the families.
What also botters me is that the co-founder of Oceangate replied not to agree James Cameron when this one said he warned about how unsafe were these vehicles, saying that "certification doesn't mean safety"😮...well 5 lives lost are the proof of how unsafe Oceangate vehicles are🤷🏻♀️
like ..epstein and other evil devil worshippers... faked their exit..while the 100+ yrs titanic sits pretty intact!!!.. do not believe the devil worshippers lot...LIARS!!!
Although horrific, we need and have always had casualties when advancing technologies.
i really don't feel sorry for this useless CEO. i just feel sorry that he had to take 4 other people with him.
@@seananderson5334 HELLOOOOOO....IF THIS WAS EXPERIMENTAL WHY NOT DO A TRIAL RUN VIA REMOTE CONTROL
It’s oddly comforting to hear that the death was instantaneous and not a slow, painful one. Imagine being stuck in the abyss for hours knowing there’s no way out of this
I think they just call that comforting. Why would it be odd? It's comforting to know those who died did not suffer.
@@nonconsensualopinionIt's odd because they're saying that it's comforting that the people died in the sub quickly. Obviously makes sense in context, better to go out quickly than slowly, but it's still weird to be comforted by.
There was definitely a quick moment of pain though. No death is ever instant
@@collectiblesnrandomstuff544 Not at the speed it happens. The brain wouldn't have time to even register the pain before it is crushed.
if it was instantaneous than what was tapping on the sub hull??
My son would never be allowed to go on a suicidal mission like this, scared or not. Some trips you go on your own and leave family out.
Exactly!!!!
Yes like going to a strip club in Vegas
I'm glad I am claustrophobic couldn't pay to be inside that sub, rest in peace to all of them
Every news channel I watched these past few days kept listing an implosion as the worst case scenario. I honestly felt and still feel that, second only to them surviving and somehow being rescued, this was the best outcome.
It’s not a happy ending but it’s good to know they didn’t suffer. It sounds like it happened so fast they wouldn’t have even known what happened. That is so much better than slowly suffocating in the dark with little to no hope of rescue. RIP, and my prayers and condolences out to all the friends and loved ones left behind.
I agree. One person, in reporting the effects, said they wouldn't even have know anything was wrong. Here and then in less than a second (faster than the brain can realize)...gone. Very sad but mercifully they didn't suffer.
I agree. I couldn't stop thinking about the horror of being trapped like that.
I still think the banging noise they were telling us as sign of life was the implosion. To be that close to the ocean floor and finding out that debris has now floated to the surface. I’m picturing that it was from after the implosion making it’s way.
The crew turned into red paste in a millisecond
They never knew what hit them
Agreed as well. Better to go quickly rather than die slowly in an underwater tomb.
My mom took us to the beach all the time as we were growing up. She always said... "Never underestimate the power of the ocean"
So true
My father says the same. He was in the royal navy for 9 years. His words ‘always respect the sea’, will always stay with me.
I've never seen an ocean and never will. ☹️
you never smelt my farts..
Or the greed and stupidity of humans.
She seems very exciting to deliver this news/discussion..
It’s good to hear that the passengers didn’t feel pain or even noticed there was something wrong. But I think it’s too bad that the owner of the company that made this happen didn’t have time to realize that he f*cked up.
The perspex vision Dome was ONLY rated to a maximum of 1,300 Metres ; he gambled with everyone's lives. Most plastics inc Carbon Fiber can fatigue on repeated Dives. There was no reserve & beyond Fail-safe limits...
I head various stories from other sources that there was a malfunction on board and they were trying to go back up. The guy tried to do an all out sprint to the surface from what I heard. It is possible they could have heard some stress sounds prior to the implosion. It's unclear if the story is true or not.
This is sad situation but the CEO’s recklessness is to blame. So sorry for the families.
Every single person getting on that should have known the extreme risks, and if they didn't, failure on them. You don't need to be even remotely interested in this sort of thing to recognize that going to the depth of the ocean this was at - comes with risks you do not recover from.
The irony is, the wealthy folks on board had enough money collectively to hire someone to build a unit to some certified standards themselves and have a much safer potential outcome.
I guess the $250k seemed more palpable than $25 million split between a pair of billionaires. (Shoulder shrug).
Well they new the risk..
His greed.
@@aprilg3299they knew the risks, but the ceo's negligence made the risks far greater than they should have been.
Didn't one of the men bring his kid with him?
*For anyone who can't imagine what took place because they've never seen anything like it before:*
An implosion can be just as strong as an explosion. It was instant. All you would see if you were a few meters away watching the sub would be an enormous burst of bubbles and debris. The water instantly equalized with the pressure, but it was the air that killed them, not the water. The air pressure would have been similar to that of a concussive pulse wave from a large artillery shell... which vaporizes you. Like two magnets coming together, the physical reaction was faster than any nerve conduction velocity possible and their entire bodies were shredded into organic material dust in a single, very loud burst. The entire infrastructure was obliterated in under a half of a second.
...It would be interesting to recreate this implosion with another faulty sub and record the event with a sub that's actually capable of reaching those depths. It would help people understand more viscerally the dangers of ocean pressure equalizing all at once.
So there are no bodies because there is nothing left of them.
I saw a video where they made this sub and showed what would of happend and my first though was it would be interesthing too see this. In real life
So they just turned into dust? In a second? Omg😟
What about carbon fiber ,was it strong enough?
"Concussive pulse wave" sir this isn't a video game. Stop trying to sound dramatic.
So sad that lost their life doing what they been wanting to do now they lost everything. Feel sorry for the families and friends ❤❤ Gone but never be forgotten rest in heaven peace ❤
I think most people who hasn't never experienced instant death or anything close to it can't even begin to imagine such a death as this. It's hard sometimes for thoses who worked close to it. Any implosion and at depth the pressures is unimaginable. It happen before they even realize there was a problem. Like a can that experience a crush force from outside to inside. Happens in seconds.
Nanoseconds. Seriously. They might as well sit on a nuclear bomb. You just get vaporised.
NOPE, in about 0.040 seconds, ALL IS GONE. AT 12,800 feet deep, the pressure is about 2.5 tons, per SQUARE INCH. ( 5,500 psi + ) THE human brain, receives pain signals, about 40 milliseconds, or more . THESE GUYS DIDN'T FEEL NOTHING ! JUST ' GONE ' IN LESS THAT 1/200 OF A FLASH ! Another note ; the air inside that crap sub, was HEATED UP IN THOSE 40 MILLISECONDS, (DUE TO COMPRESSION = ALOT ! OF IT )) AND ALSO BURNED ANYTHING INSIDE . GONE. PART OF THE CREATION AGAIN, AS DUST GOES BACK TO '' the earth ''. 5 humans ' molecules, floating around as food, for plankton and other microbes.
As a former submariner, I can attest to fact that their deaths were instant and painless - at those depths the pressure is so intense that the implosion tears/compacts the human body faster than the signals from pain receptors can reach the brain.
Thanks for the clarification. It was troubling me that they suffered before
yeah sure bud, ex-submariner now uploading tik tok compilations on youtube ok
If one had to die... seems the preferable way to go.
Do you think they died before the implosion from the lack of oxygen?
I struggle to visualize that how would be that implosion
May they all rest in eternal peace and my deepest condolences to the families of the poor souls who lost their lives on the titan ❤❤❤❤❤
Not to mention the 1500 passengers or so that perished on the Titanic?!?!?
The passengers of the Titanic didn't set out on a suicide mission....... They simply travelled on a vessel that in those days standards was deemed 'unsinkable!' Oh the irony!
I wanna have words with the guy that sent that beautiful sub down there. Great design. Loved it.
Thank god it was so quick. Horrific but still a relief at the same time. RIP.
I said the same thing thomas they died quick and they wouldent see it coming RIP
Umm clarification. By RIP do you mean the more inaccurate but socially appropriate "rest in peace" or the more accurate, but less charming, "rest in pieces"?
@@garethmackinnon6782 How would anyone know how fast they died since no one was there to witness it. They could have committed suicide. Or one person does them all then himself. We can only speculate. Don't you think the pilot might have said something like, "we don't have a chance". "In a few minutes we are going to blow up due to the ocean pressure." I mean, would you want to be conscious to experience that kind of death?
No....even though it might have been quick (maybe, no one really knows for sure yet) the moments leading up to the critical moment must have been one living hell of a experience. At best, I think they had a moment to except the horrific death they were about to succumb. 😢 I really hope there was a black box....but probably not since they didn't go by full regulations
@wolfgangbloodymeatsack1687 better then sitting on the bottom running out of air and going crazy, basically buried alive.
I wasn’t a submariner, but I was on a carrier. One of the sayings we would say is “nomatter how mighty the vessel…. she is nowhere near as mighty as the deep blue herself.” RIP to the pioneers and explorers.
So, you stayed at a holiday Inn last night? Just kidding. Army was here. ✌️
No, they were idiots. Enough of the misplaced homage.
🇺🇸
RIP to the illprepared
“Pioneers and explorers”? Don’t you mean “wealthy, thrill-seeking tourists”?
Very. comforting to know that they did not suffer.
So sad pity they risked going down so far it's never worth losing your life it's the ones left behind who will never come to terms with this awful tragedy
Fun fact: in 2018 one of the CEO's workers was fired after he tried to inform the CEO that the submersible had serious safety concerns. The CEO then sued him for "fraud" for his "lying" to OSHA and other regulatory bodies. This vessel should never have been allowed to go the surface. RIP to all who perished.
Methinks the former employee won or has grounds for appeal.
Why is this a "fun fact"? Can you tell me what's fun about it?
That is a fun fact. 🤦🏻♂️
Another fun fact: The wife of Stockton Rush, CEO of the company that built this submersible, is Wendy Rush. She is the great-great granddaughter of Isidor and Ida Straus who died on the Titanic. His body was later recovered but hers wasn't. This is a bit ironic since in this case, his body won't likely be recovered, while his wife's whereabouts are known.
@@c-qc-q2021I don’t think he’ll get his job back since they’re probably going out of business.
The Titanic is the most infamous story of the dangers of oceanic travel, the irony of 5 people traveling to see it and dying because they ignored that cautionary tale. Its just plain hubris.
Nope. Ghost Ship was the most infamous historical event.
@@cb8911Hey man, life gets better seek therapy. Wish you the best.
This whole mis-adventure smacks of colossal hubris.
And 2023’s Darwin Award goes to…
Thank you
She looks so happy talking about this can’t hide the grin from her face
She is thing these men think they ruin everthing a woman would be to scared of doing it because fear is caution and secretly she thinks they put on them selves no regard for safety
this is very sad and so.heart breaking ..but atleast there is no suffering and they don't feel anything before death took them..RIP BRAVE SOUL... Condolence to the family...
My father, a WWII USN UDT/CB (Hardhat Underwater Demolition and Salvage Diver) and CB always told us, his children, water is unforgiving... he was very strict with swimming in the ocean, in our pool at home and when boating.
At 15,000 meters in the sky, you can still eject & parachute to safety if your experimental plane starts breaking up.
You cannot do that 3,000 meters below the sea.
Sorry to hear your childhood sucked.
True😢
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agreed
19 yrs old. So tragic. Sad. Sad. My deepest condolences to his mom.
😅
Supposedly just trying to please his dad too
@@harijha7560what the hell does that have to do with anything ?
@@harijha7560aww were you his lover?
Agreed. Just a kid.
I’m surprised people didn’t know about the pressure of the ocean. Yrs back, I discovered it, when I was watching a Titanic doc, it’s amazing what u find out when you’re curious enough to research.
Such a tragic ordeal. I agree, people underestimate the power and depth of the sea!
The fact that the young teen only went to please his silly father, who was, for some strange reason, obsessed with the Titanic, is so tragic. He was terrified, but since it was Father's Day weekend, he decided to please his father. Led his son to his ultimate demise, smh.
not only did you use commas wrong throughout your whole statement, you also fail to realize that no one on board knew it would implode smh.
@@dahole9393This is an incredibly autistic comment
@@dahole9393 Arguing grammar but didn't even start your own sentence with a capitalization of the first word. Huge L.
Silly men. If only they would have let women build and captain the sub, it would have been fine!
@@dahole9393you also failed to use the coma correctly. It should me “implode (coma) smh”
Implode, smh
His explanation of why recovery of the bodies is simply not feasible (4:09) is what the official in the press gathering was trying NOT to say. This is the cold and brutal truth: between the explosion and the time the remains have been down there ... there is, sadly, nothing left to collect.
Fish food
Its an implosion by the way👍🏿@ mnirwin5.
A Submarine Captain knows exactly what they're talking about...
Kind of annoying how they were trying to avoid saying that because it's not clear what they meant. When they say "unrecognizable" they could be referring to mangled bodies. This man tells it like it is, which I much prefer.
You shouldn't spare feelings in this matter. The truth is better. I'm more pissed that reporters had to ask that dumb question.
Love how it says "they're Grieving Deeply” 😂 parden the pun.
May they Rest In Peace. Senseless and unnecessary loss of life. I hope they were spared the fear of what was going to happen.
It's going to sound horrible... but I'm glad that this is how they met their end when compared to the alternative of being stuck in that coffin in the darkness of the bottom of the ocean for days on end waiting for a rescue that will likely never happen. This is a true tragedy but at least their suffering was brief.
It was INATANTANEOUS. THERE WAS NO SUFFERING AT ALL.
but they are dead, they cant eat or orasm anymore, that ability is gone forever, forever
i desagree
@@FreeAimDog “orasm”? WTF do you mean?🤔🙄
No one knows when or how it happened
An airliner can plunge nose first into the ground and still find body parts. This just really puts it in perspective of how violent an implosion is at that depth. 😬
Damn you're right. I'm glad they didn't experience the amount of terror ppl in crashing airplanes experience. Those seconds while a plane is plummeting down have to be terrifying.
😬😬😬😬😬😬
They didn’t recover bodies from the debris of the WTC. Occupants were ground into dust by the forces of the pancaking floors. They’d the best ground comparison for the forces involved.
When an airplane nose dives into the ground there is an instant of incredibly violent deceleration forces. The difference here is that those forces are not contained in an instant, they are a constant. So you’re hitting the ground at 500mph in perpetuity.
@@EOTA564 It's not really that as such, it's just hugely more violent and from every direction. They weren't just squashed, the instant compression of the air inside the sub will have raised the temperature to over 1000c in an instant too. In effect, they were inside a bomb, instantly vapourised.
The death of the Michael Biehn character from ‘The Abyss’ springs to mind.
Talk about a real full titanic experience!
If you want a better idea on what happened to the bodies, look up "Mythbusters diving suit" where they put 135 psi on a suit with pig organs inside to demonstrate what it'd do to the human body. The result: Crushed the suit and the organs inside splattered everywhere into red goo.
That was 135 psi, this sub was at *5000* psi. They wouldn't have felt a thing.
oh man thanks havent seen one of their videos in a while
That's honestly the best case scenario in a situation like that imagine running out of oxygen and just being trapped down there would be so much worse
I am going to check that out. Thanks
Omg.. just went to see it. Really adds context to ir.
what is psi
I grew up on a 34 ft sloop, sailing all over the Atlantic. The minute I heard they were missing, I knew they were gone. It broke my heart. The Admiral was beyond professional when he was asked about recovering remains. He just reminded everyone that it was a catastrophic event in an unforgiving environment. Reading between the lines, I knew what he meant, but thank you for just saying it. No soft language - just the facts.
You sailed and knew they were gone lol
@@TheEnd-eg6wqImagine asking questions about bodies after an implosion 3000 feet under the ocean.
I would not be surprised if the knocking was a MSM lie to keep the clicks coming.
"4000 feet down, 2 hours of air, ROV's just on site .. will they make it?"
@@TheEnd-eg6wq Yup. Studied the ocean and diving my whole life. You?
I never grew up on a sloop and I knew they were dead when I first heard, life experiences don't favour understanding admirals explaining a disaster with careful words think most of us read between the lines lol
James, he certainly has more knowledge than what’s in your tiny brain
The implosion would have compressed everything into a very small volume in a fraction of a second. The kinetic energy involved would convert to thermal energy on the thousands of degrees. They would have been instantly cremated. Not that they would have felt anything as they would already been extremely dead from the compression.
My condolences to all the family
The passengers would have been liquified instantly. Anything remaining would be dispersed by the current. They wouldn't have even known or felt anything about it which is the only comfort that can be taken from this. One second maybe wondering what that creaking sound was, the next gone.
There are no currents down at that level and they’d be more like partially cooked hamburger meat
There ARE currents at that level. Wtf.
@@GrabbaBeer Heat and compression equals instant marine snow.
@@Svedge chum. 🦀 🦀 🦀
@@samscarletta7433 no, there isn’t. Any movement in the water at that depth is so minimal you don’t even notice it. This is why the bottom of the ocean looks smooth like it has never been touched.
The only thing similar to currents are higher up no where near the sea floor and is known as thermohaline circulation. Which is caused by water density, salinity, and temperature due to the drastic depth differences. These circulations have no physical impact on the sea floor. It’s the equivalent of standing in a hot parking lot with no wind. The air at parking lot level is still, but a ways above the parking lot, the heat rises and forms a plume of hot air rising out of nothing. Look it up
I sailed on submarines and we analyzed what would happen if our ship sank below collapse depth .. how rapidly death would come. What we came up with was in a very large hull such as a sub, when part of the hull is breached under high pressure, the air above the in-rushing water compresses in the sub and it skyrockets to incredible temperatures, such as in a diesel engine's cylinders, as the sea blasts in and blows down internal pressure bulkheads ... and anything flammable ignites well before the water reaches the upper areas. Bodies would crush and clothing would catch fire very quickly. Death would be very rapid.
This is, of course, not the case with a small submersible. Implosion pulverizes anything living instantaneously.
Being a submariner seems terrifying
Appalling to think of the many submarine crews during WW2 that suffered that fate. Even just sitting it out in a sub that was intact but unable to surface.
Yup....The human body becomes fuel.......................
The WW II subs only submerged a few hundred feet, so in those instances of a hull breach- drowning was a possible cause of death, but extreme sea decompression is something entirely different and quicker!
USS scorpion and the USS thresher come to Mind, that sank from implosion in the 60s in the Atlantic
I remain very positive for the families. This is very sad! I pray for the families.
What a way for a Father and Son to spend Fathers Day…. Terrible and the son didn’t really want to go…. I cannot even imagine
The 19 year old son makes the horror even more real in our minds.
OceanGate has a lot of explaining to do. They were warned about catastrophic safety problems with the sub at extreme depths in 2018 by their own Director of Marine Operations, David Lochridge. Lochridge was fired the same day and escorted off the premises. According to Lochridge, the passenger viewport was only certified for depths of up to 1,300 meters (4,265 feet), and OceanGate would not pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport certified for 4,000.meters (13,123 ft). The Titanic sits at a depth of 3,779 meters (12,400 ft). The outcome was inevitable.
All because the Billionaire was Woke
oceangate was stockton rush
@breakfast00club..11 woke? No, he was greedy.
And now comes the attempt from OceanGate and their attorneys to litigate and run damage control as they push the envelope of lying about it.
@@oldschool4456these kids love using the same buzz words in any situation, they parrot others and make no sense
Thank you to everyone who worked so hard to rescue the men ❤
Thanks for saying that, God Bless them all.
It was the USA and Canadian tax dollars at use for this rescue. So now the media will get right back to attacking Trump. It’s all to obvious. The gop had Biden cought for bribery they arrest Trump then sink a sub plus blow up a pipeline.
You’re welcome
if anything ,i would say a pay cut for them ,since they couldn't carried out a rescue .smh .
L bozo died 💀⚰️
They will be with the Titanic for ever more.
Let's hope they can rest in peace.
Sincere condolences to the families and loved ones affected. Curious if any onboard cameras would have survived the implosion?
Not when the whole submarine implodes like a can in a can-smasher in less than an instant
you mean the camera on “the pilot’s” laptop or the cameras on the passengers smart phones - this was a barebones submersible not a regular submarine - more like an empty tube - and from what we have been told - nothing left to find
Everything, is no bigger, than a molecule, from inside that death can.....Only some outside structure, remains. ANYTHING INSIDE, IS G O N E. G O N E . G O N E.
The Titan(ic) suffered the fate of saftey neglect. The father, who was well aware of the MAJOR risk, tagging his young son along is whats beyond me. Yes, we all take risks. But you cannot compare driving a car to diving into the depths of the ocean in a UNTESTED, UNCERTIFIED submarine! Its just not the same.
Only 18 subs on the planet can reach these depths..1 had no certification..Now we have 17..
Whats with all this young son , he was 19.
@@Urko200518. And last time I checked that’s certainly not old.
Such submarines should be used once only.
They shouldn't take the repeated stress of the great depth.
There would be unseen damage to the structures.
They may survive the first dive, but not necessarily the next.
Yeap, but ocean gate says this sub has been designed and engineered by Boeing and NASA. Titan was made from carbon fiber. Ceo was on board.
I hate that they passed away put I am relieved to know they did not suffer because it happened so quickly.
I remember when I was training to be a life guard having to dive to the bottom of a 12 foot pool to touch a sandbag dummy and even at that depth it was hard to go down and not feel the pressure on your body, in your ears, and my lungs felt like they were on fire and going to burst!
Edit: It was 5 lbs to test us to see if we could touch it at the bottom. Yes sand because I grew up in a poor neighborhood in Memphis TN it was all we had!
YOUR WELCOME TO THE TROLLS WHO LIKE TO MOCK THE POOR, IMPOVRISHED AND LESS FORTUNATE!
They most definitely suffered mentally I don't know what use words but this is really sad I can't breathe just thinking about it
@@jessemorehead7050I don’t think you’re comprehending the instantaneous nature of an implosion at that depth. They didn’t have even a millisecond to comprehend what was happening, much less to “suffer mentally.” As was said, the most merciful outcome under the circumstances.
The more important question is where are their souls now? Heaven is a real place but so is Hell.
12 feet? lol.
@@neeneediamond2959why in the world is this relevant to you? THAT'S the most important question you can come up with?
it is better that the whole thing was instant rather than the horror of being down there for days waiting or hoping for rescue and knowing it probably wasnt going to come, the thought of that is beyond terrifying.
It would have been instantaneous. It would have been complete 😢 Thank God they did not suffer. Praying for the mother who lost her son who didn't even want to go❤
I was in the navy, you think about the possibilities going in, or you're too young to understand the reality but realise later. You know the chances and the outcomes and results for everyone left behind. When they said they lost contact, I knew the chances. Why do people underestimate nature? It's never lost.
Yeah but I also realize that since when I was a kid when my father was watching a documentary, when one of the naval submarines imploded while diving too deep under the ocean.
Thought the same. Unfortunately, I wasn’t very optimistic about the outcome, when communication was totally gone.
She sure told those guys to hold her beer alright
I was saying to people "That banging is the wreckage hitting the bottom of the ocean." not a single person believed me.
Because people were trying to hold out hope
Very true, never under estimate the power of the sea even if it is calm. Condolences to the families who lost their loved ones.
Shark attack?
I remember going to the beach at night one day. The waves the ocean was making that day made respect and fear the ocean. That thing was furious and alive. I knew that if I go in there it would take me and that would be the end of me. And the ocean will still be splashing.
Especially in a carbon fiber vessel at 12,000 ft below sea level. LOL!!
@@gilgamesh2293you are absolutely right.. I went to Tybee Beach my first time ever at a beach and I went at night..I never saw something so beautiful yet so scary at the same time..the sound of the waves was so powerful truly an amazing experience for me. I never touch the water though..lol
Well, the water pressure at that depth will be the same even if the sea is calm or not so your comment doesn't make much sense but whatever
At over 400 Atmospheres of Pressure it was faster than you can snap your fingers! R.I.P!
A wise man once said, "The arrogance of man is thinking nature is under our control and not the other way around." The ocean depths is part of nature
LMAO!
Well said
man moves a single rock
people : look at this ARROGANT man trying to defy nature, you cant touch anything or change anything it is not natural, rock cant move themsleves
Wow thanks Einstein u must’ve been the top of ur class
And from the filmed interviews of Rush dismissing the importance of safety, I’ve been been rendered speechless by the arrogance I saw in him.
Crazy to hear that the 19 year old was apparently terrified about going on the trip but went because it was a Father’s Day present for his dad. Just makes it that much sadder at least for him and his family.
Ugh omg is that really true? Suleman didn't even want to go? How fucking sad....what a waste.
@@mg725 according to his aunt, he saw it as an opportunity to bond with his (mega rich business man) father that probably wasn't around much if you know what I mean.
A $250K gift for daddy
So very sad, he wanted to bond with his father even though he was terrified.
Well they bonded that's for sure. They may have become one.
One of the most insane things was that once they were down to the titanic they could only see any of it through a video monitor mounted inside the sub. This is the dumbest unnecessary risk I’ve ever heard, when they could have sent a robot with a camera down there and controlled it with a video game controller while they sat above water on the ship drinking cocktails and watched it on a identical monitor on the mother ship.
There was a window
The same, equally insane, video controller that directed the craft.
The submersible had a window to look out of, it was not rated for those depths according to an ex-employee. But this submersible had a few journeys down already. Most likely stress fatigue caused a catastrophic flaw, and the weak point destroyed the ship.
I think no radio signals can travel that distance through water
What are you talking about. Clearly you don’t know what your talking about. There was no monitor. There was a window.
I find that just watching videos of the titanic is good enough for me
The power of the ocean is terrifying. We have to show it respect.
The poor 19 year old didn’t feel good about going, but since it was Father’s Day weekend he wanted to please his father 😢😢😢.
The adults made a life choice, the teenager relied on their judgment 😢😢😢
you have no idea what you're talking about, have more respect
His father was an utter idiot and he's responsible for his son's death.
Yes, so sad that the father would take that chance with his son
@@sl4983 Might not have understood the safety issues. Might have been too excited to consider them.
@@ReginaldZero excited is one word... it's very tragic.
He was putting it lightly for the loved ones. He meant to say their bodies were crushed into mush, and we won't find anything of them because they were pretty much fish food this past week
One thing I've learned in life is, you can't take short cuts,especially when it comes to your life. I really feel bad for the families, cause their the one's who have to grieve, and deal with the aftermath of this tragedy 😔✝️
I think it would be so terrifying if ever a proffesional animator animates what happened inside the implosion.
Ask ai to have a video
Similar to an object exploding but in reverse. It would be so fast that you wouldn't be able to tell what happened.
Sadly, in a cruel twist of irony, these men who sought to explore the wreck of the Titanic, have now become a permanent part of it. Rest in peace gentlemen.
They are "resting" inside the stomachs of crabs
Expensive way to die
Rest in peace like the people who died on the Titanic whose graves they were trying to sightsee?
Very well said!
Well the CEO did claim the Titan was unsinkable and it wasn't a bad omen at all to name the vessel according to the space rocket which killed all of its crew on the launch pad.
As I said in a comment on a previous article, this was the best possible outcome at this point. They didn't suffer, but died in the literal blink of an eye. That's much better than sitting at the bottom of the ocean floor in the cold dark for days, hungry and losing hope as your oxygen depletes, cognizant the entire time that the end is looming. And for those who laugh at this or believe it somehow justified, please remember that these were people, including a 19 year old young man-barely a man-who had families, employees, friends, and loved ones who depended on them. Those people have had to witness so many cruel comments over the past few days. Have a heart. Be human. These were human beings.
Prays to the families this is so sad and as for people making memes and jokes about this tragedy your karma is coming it’s sickening how heartless some people are.
@@jenniferoates3449 Karma doesn't work that way
That’s not karma.
Can we at least come to an agreement that it's a terrible idea to hire a crew based on wokeness and not actual qualifications? These people did not have to die, and skirting over the root cause of their demise is just making their deaths meaningless. Can we have common ground here, or do more people have to die? Can we all admit the inherit evil of wokeness or is that too much?
@@KrodaStagg😂 wokeness
3 tons psi on every square inch of a human body, all at once, I wouldn't expect there to be anything left. Many years ago when the SSN Thresher went down and imploded in around 9,000 feet of water they basically said the same thing. And it happened so fast that the human nervous system could not react fast enough to sense anything, it was that quick.
Okay, but now they are claiming that the crew had about a minute of sheer terror-piled atop one another at the front end-knowing they were about to die. They also claim that human remains have been recovered, so there is a fragment of body. Wondering what they will be backtracking on next.
This lady news reporter talks with an unnerving smile on her face like she's about to giggle at any moment. Such sad and tragic news.
I was looking for a comment like this, why the hell is she smiling????
I was thinking the same...
It’s creeping me out!
Polished... idk made it feel fake, maybe my tinfoil hat is too tight.
I was JUST GOING TO SAY THAT
I will never understand what goes through the mind of someone willing to pay a quarter of $1 million to sit in a cramped metal coffin to the bottom of the ocean just to look through a window the size of a dinner plate at a boat that sank 100 years ago. You couldn't pay me that amount (or any) to do anything like that.
I think they couldn’t even look at the window because of the darkness. They would have only been able to watch it from a monitor.
Well said.
Especially when you can already watch all the close up videos and camera stills that past explorations have compiled....the only reason to try and go there in person is 1 thing.....PURE EGO...to show everyone how much disposable income they have....well their heirs have it now
That just shows your lack of knowledge and how we human discover new things. And push the limits. If we didn’t have strong women and women willing to do this type of stuff there’s a lot we wouldn’t have figured out, use your brain just a little bit
The same mindset people would skydive, hike mountains, bungee jump, etc.
Cousteau memorably said he carried no safety equipment on deep dives. At the slightest crack in his bathysphere, the water would shoot right through his body faster than a bullet and kill him instantly. The pressure of the water around the imploding Titan was reportedly four hundred times atmospheric pressure.
so basically any pocket that has a different pressure than that of the ocean depth, that force is pushing on the wall until it collapses and the acceleration of this implosion which is the space inside the pocket and the distance inside and the pressure of the water is what determines the damage.
so if you put a carbon fibre balloon in the ocean and made it drop, eventually it would pop
the further down, the greater the pressure, the more rapid the change
but if you drop a solid mass it wouldnt pop because the forces cancel out in all directions
abd if the inside of the balloon is allowed to fill up with water, it would never pop because forces on the inside cancel out with forces on the outside
so if you visualize a bunch of arrows inside and out representing forces with different values, the inside forces are much weaker because they are defined to maintain a surface level soace so we can live, so once the body of the vessel is no longer strong enough to resist the outside force, it pops, and then force and acceleration rapidly consume the space
or if you want to think of how heavy water is, think of how hard it is to lift a 2 litre jug of water, and how light it is after the container is empty, then imagine lifting or resisting miles and miles worth of water with just your bodies flesh or a metal tin can
what's most dangerous is the pop though, the abrupt change from the difference between forces inside and out, or how quickly the outside wants to consume the inside, if you gradually acclimate the change it wouldn't be rapid, though you'd still never live down there
i'm no expert just writing this to help myself better understand because writing helps
What people don't understand about an implosion like that, is the actual amount of heat generated by it; it's not just a matter of the pressure vessel getting crushed like an empty beer can, by the extreme pressure. Chances are the bodies would have been vaporized by the event.
This is a true statement.
Sherlock Holmes
2/3 rds the temp of the sun. I saw another post where somebody made an untrue statement and one person did the math to correct them. Lol. Now maybe Im guilty of spreading misinformation.
@@That-Guy-79 I'M tellin
It's not just the pressure, but rather how fast that change in pressure is. It's a reverse bomb blast.
Glad he said that. I was confused when reporters were asking about recovering bodies. Seems like “catastrophic implosion at pressures of 5000 pounds per square inch” would be explicit enough for everybody, but I guess not.
Unfortunately "everybody" doesn't include news reporters who repeatedly asked banal, stupid and infuriating questions, it's a part of their trade.
They ask the obvious questions for the “viewers” that don’t understand
@@apples8872 There's a lot of them
There are bodies somewhere. But it's pointless to try to find them.
@@GTI8855 they were turned into goo. there aren't remains to recover.
The pressure each dive will weaken it and eventually crush it!