Never be afraid to do a post boil top up! It's always good to have volume graduations on as much equipment as possible for this reason! I don't do split batches, but have always topped up my fermenter to the recipes yield volume In order to get as close as possible to the intended ABV without worrying about mash and boil volume as much.
Nice looking beers! I make rookie mistakes all the time, but at the end of the day you made beer...and that's a win! Keep up the good work! Maybe if you dropped out the yeast with some cold side finings it would taste a bit smoother?
Thanks! It did make beer and they will get drank :) Finings would probably help as well. Hey, nice merch btw, the logos look awesome! Already ordered a shirt:)
Nice video! I have been wanting to try out different yeasts for a Pale Ale. I have a US-05 vs S-33 version on tap now. Yesterday I tasted a friends US-05 vs S-04 beers. So far the US-05 beer has been an undisputed favorite. I guess there is a reason that yeast is so popular. K-97, W-34/70 and BRY-97 are on my list for future brews (I am also trying to play more with dry yeasts). I also recently did my first keg ferment very similar to yours (floating dip tube, spunding valve that leaked, served out of the keg). There was about 1/2 gal of liquid in the keg when it started to blow foam, so probably about 1/4 gal of beer. I am not sold on the idea, but I will try it again.
Nice! I really like comparing the yeasts side by side, I’ve definitely learned a lot about yeast character doing it. I’m not sold on the kegs as fermenters yet either but I’ll probably try it out again.
Appreciate your honesty. Mistakes are bound to happen when you are experimenting. I just try not to stress out about them anymore. It still turned out okay right.
So this is a W-34/70 and US-05 comparison. Why was the beer with the lager yeast worse? Let it lager for a month. You will love the beer with that lager yeast.
I'm sorry for the many comments. So, from what I know, W-34/70 makes a fine lager at ale temperatures. But it likes its water with low minerality. So you basically made a comparison between two clean strains, US-05 and W-34/70 and US-05 came out on top, which is great! Great channel!
@@ElementaryBrewingCo about the rookie mistake: my last beer turned on me, I wanted to brew a Tripel and ended up with a Golden Strong Ale. Sometimes things don't go as planned.
Great video! I wonder if the harshness came from your brewing salts since you didn’t use the full water volume? I couldn’t tell if you adjusted brewing salts or not, though. Either way, great experiment and video!
I'd let the lager version sit a bit longer... like 10 weeks in lager temp. Why? So the alcohol can mellow out. Also, dry hops, especially if used generously, can give a bit of hop burn. If you have more body/dextrans in the beer, it balances the hop. With your single step mash, the beer gets quite dry, leaving the hops "bare naked". In Czech lager diacetyl helps this dryness issue, fooling you into believing theres more body there. So in place of the saflager 34/70 id pitch bohemian and just a quick diacetyl rest. Sulfur is from too short fermentation with lager yeast, esp german style. I hope this helps.
@@ElementaryBrewingCo Here is another split batch experiment for you: belgian golden ale with and without wheat flakes in mash. Feel free to hop to your heart's content. In my hands galaxy early and dr rudi for flavor have worked quite well :)
Murphy's law at its finest! But sounds like you learned a lot which is what it's all about. I find the only way I can get better is to mess up first. On to the next brew!
You should make an IPA that my 7 year old daughter put together for me I couldn't believe how good it came out. I suck at making beer so I have her do the chef work
Hey love the vid! Also if you are over gravity its much easier to correct post boil then being under. Always feel free to top off with water to adjust the gravity/volume. There are plenty of dilution calculators online to help adjust here.
Noticed a huge amount of hops hitting the filter when transferring from the spigot, then no filter when you switched to auto-siphon... did you scrap the filter when you switched? Do you think you got a quite a bit of hops in the keg?
Tried not to get too much. I was able to pull from the top with the siphon so it was definitely clearer. But yes I was really surprised by the hop matter and will be adding using a hop basket from this point forward because of that:)
@@ElementaryBrewingCo Yeah it's easily my biggest process related challenge... I want the hop/wort contact of adding them loose, but don't want to deal with them when transferring.
@@blakefaulds totally agree, when I use a hop basket I don’t feel like I get as much flavor out of the hops. But I don’t want all that hop matter making it into the fermenter either.
I wasn’t thinking 😂 Honestly though I’d had some good wort left in the kettle on the last few brew days so I initially just thought I’ll just add less water, it will be okay. Did not think it through at all really. I’ve since adjusted my system profile in Brewfather to get as accurate as I can that way my losses aren’t as great.
@@ElementaryBrewingCo lol, sure we've all had those "wtf was I doing" moments. I once left a couple of liters of sanitizer in the fermenter and topped it off with the wort 🤦♂️
My brother and I brew too and we live in Visalia too. We have been thinking about starting a channel as well. If we do I think it would be cool to do a colander together
Never be afraid to do a post boil top up! It's always good to have volume graduations on as much equipment as possible for this reason!
I don't do split batches, but have always topped up my fermenter to the recipes yield volume In order to get as close as possible to the intended ABV without worrying about mash and boil volume as much.
Nice looking beers! I make rookie mistakes all the time, but at the end of the day you made beer...and that's a win! Keep up the good work! Maybe if you dropped out the yeast with some cold side finings it would taste a bit smoother?
Thanks! It did make beer and they will get drank :) Finings would probably help as well. Hey, nice merch btw, the logos look awesome! Already ordered a shirt:)
@@ElementaryBrewingCo Thanks!! You're next, you've got to get set up too!
@@TheApartmentBrewer I’ve been working on it for a bit, just waiting on my samples so I can make sure they are okay:)
@@ElementaryBrewingCo can't wait!
Looking forward to seeing more info about fermenting in kegs. Another great vid. Cheers!
Great video Teach! I love these "test study" comparables, very informative.
Thank you! They are really helping me find the differences in these beers too!
Feels Bad Man. We can all relate to a south going brew day. I dig ur channel, keep it up!
Thanks for watching! Mistakes are just part of the process.
Thanks for the video. Every batch is a lesson learned
Good video and great honest video I like that I try to be as honest as I can in my videos, cheers pal happy brewing 🍻
Nice video! I have been wanting to try out different yeasts for a Pale Ale. I have a US-05 vs S-33 version on tap now. Yesterday I tasted a friends US-05 vs S-04 beers. So far the US-05 beer has been an undisputed favorite. I guess there is a reason that yeast is so popular. K-97, W-34/70 and BRY-97 are on my list for future brews (I am also trying to play more with dry yeasts).
I also recently did my first keg ferment very similar to yours (floating dip tube, spunding valve that leaked, served out of the keg). There was about 1/2 gal of liquid in the keg when it started to blow foam, so probably about 1/4 gal of beer. I am not sold on the idea, but I will try it again.
Nice! I really like comparing the yeasts side by side, I’ve definitely learned a lot about yeast character doing it. I’m not sold on the kegs as fermenters yet either but I’ll probably try it out again.
Appreciate your honesty. Mistakes are bound to happen when you are experimenting. I just try not to stress out about them anymore. It still turned out okay right.
Thanks! Yes, I’ve always said mistakes are proof you’re trying. It made beer in the end:)
Nice video....mistakes and all! Hopefully some.better luck comes your way on upcoming brew days. Cheers!!
Thanks! Cheers 🍻
OOOH yeah.... that compounding interest is what gets ya.
Things I wish I would’ve thought about that morning:/
Nice Video , I like these split batches 🤙🏼 btw yeah as you said maybe time could favor the lager one cheers 🍻🍻🤙🏼
I’m hoping so! Good to see ya on the hoppy hour last night!!!
@@ElementaryBrewingCo 🍻🍻
So this is a W-34/70 and US-05 comparison. Why was the beer with the lager yeast worse? Let it lager for a month. You will love the beer with that lager yeast.
I do love that yeast and I do think it may get better after a proper lagering. I’ll update in the comments, thanks for watching!
Oh and yes I believe US-05 and WLP001 are the same strain.
I'm sorry for the many comments. So, from what I know, W-34/70 makes a fine lager at ale temperatures. But it likes its water with low minerality. So you basically made a comparison between two clean strains, US-05 and W-34/70 and US-05 came out on top, which is great! Great channel!
@@TheAlchemistsBrewery No worries! I like the chat:) Yes both clean strains and the ale is definitely preferred in this batch!
@@ElementaryBrewingCo about the rookie mistake: my last beer turned on me, I wanted to brew a Tripel and ended up with a Golden Strong Ale. Sometimes things don't go as planned.
Nice chicken! I reduce hop harshness or astringency by not boiling it at 60 minutes, but at 30 minutes.
I’ll try that next, I’ve been experimenting with first wort hopping so that may have caused the harshness in this one too.
@@ElementaryBrewingCo cool. Right now I am planning to add hops to all my beers at flameout: less bittering / massive aroma.
Great video! I wonder if the harshness came from your brewing salts since you didn’t use the full water volume? I couldn’t tell if you adjusted brewing salts or not, though. Either way, great experiment and video!
Thanks! Yes I thought of all that after the fact. Could have definitely come from the salts as they would’ve been more concentrated.
I'd let the lager version sit a bit longer... like 10 weeks in lager temp. Why? So the alcohol can mellow out. Also, dry hops, especially if used generously, can give a bit of hop burn. If you have more body/dextrans in the beer, it balances the hop. With your single step mash, the beer gets quite dry, leaving the hops "bare naked". In Czech lager diacetyl helps this dryness issue, fooling you into believing theres more body there. So in place of the saflager 34/70 id pitch bohemian and just a quick diacetyl rest.
Sulfur is from too short fermentation with lager yeast, esp german style.
I hope this helps.
@@ElementaryBrewingCo
Here is another split batch experiment for you: belgian golden ale with and without wheat flakes in mash. Feel free to hop to your heart's content. In my hands galaxy early and dr rudi for flavor have worked quite well :)
@@tomekwiraszka7312 Thanks! I’ll check it out!
Murphy's law at its finest! But sounds like you learned a lot which is what it's all about. I find the only way I can get better is to mess up first. On to the next brew!
Yup! And on to a simpler brew next time, cheers!
You should make an IPA that my 7 year old daughter put together for me I couldn't believe how good it came out. I suck at making beer so I have her do the chef work
That’s a good idea! I’ll let my kids develop the next recipe:)
Hey love the vid! Also if you are over gravity its much easier to correct post boil then being under. Always feel free to top off with water to adjust the gravity/volume. There are plenty of dilution calculators online to help adjust here.
I was having many brain farts that morning. Totally could’ve topped off but didn’t think about it. Thanks for watching!
Noticed a huge amount of hops hitting the filter when transferring from the spigot, then no filter when you switched to auto-siphon... did you scrap the filter when you switched? Do you think you got a quite a bit of hops in the keg?
Tried not to get too much. I was able to pull from the top with the siphon so it was definitely clearer. But yes I was really surprised by the hop matter and will be adding using a hop basket from this point forward because of that:)
@@ElementaryBrewingCo Yeah it's easily my biggest process related challenge... I want the hop/wort contact of adding them loose, but don't want to deal with them when transferring.
@@blakefaulds totally agree, when I use a hop basket I don’t feel like I get as much flavor out of the hops. But I don’t want all that hop matter making it into the fermenter either.
SPLATCH GAME STRONG!
I have no idea what that means, lol, I must be old, haha!
Maybe Split Batch, Hahaha, apparently I'm not just slow on brew mornings, lol...
@@ElementaryBrewingCo “splatch” = split batch. Im gonna be moving over to BIAB so prepare for some 2am tuesday night texts
@@HOMEBREW4LIFE Nice!! The more I think about it the more I want to stick with BIAB and propane! You can always hit up @thebrusho too, lol!!!
Maybe the harshness comes from too many minerals? (less water, same amount of minerals) just an idea.
I think that may be the issue too!
I'm sure you're asking yourself this lots but.... What was the thought process in not following the recipe 🤣 IPL though - great idea, gonna try that
I wasn’t thinking 😂 Honestly though I’d had some good wort left in the kettle on the last few brew days so I initially just thought I’ll just add less water, it will be okay. Did not think it through at all really. I’ve since adjusted my system profile in Brewfather to get as accurate as I can that way my losses aren’t as great.
@@ElementaryBrewingCo lol, sure we've all had those "wtf was I doing" moments. I once left a couple of liters of sanitizer in the fermenter and topped it off with the wort 🤦♂️
My brother and I brew too and we live in Visalia too. We have been thinking about starting a channel as well. If we do I think it would be cool to do a colander together
Cool! Thanks for watching! You should definitely start up a channel! The more brew tubers the merrier:)
Top up with more water next time, brewfather would have helped you to calculate the amount.
Will do! I started with extract and remember doing that with almost every batch. Not sure why it didn’t cross my mind this brew day 🍻 cheers!
Less volume than expected with the same amount of hops will increase IBU.
Yes, more IBUs and water chemistry will be off too with higher concentrations. Both of those things could be the culprit for the perceived harshness.