The woman playing Onaya is a wonderful and underrated actress named Meg Foster, who is probably best known for being the original TV version of Cagney on Cagney and Lacey before she was fired for "not being sufficiently feminine". Before this, she starred as Hester Prynne in a humble but faithful adaptation of The Scarlet Letter. Her performance was spellbinding and contained many moments of her voice modulated in a similar way as it is here, though for shorter intervals. It is always a treat to both see and hear her.
The Ram God I have watched her Hester Prynne again and again because, to borrow a favorite term from the Puritans, I find her absolutely bewitching. Happy Halloween!
In all seriousness this advice of just writing whatever comes to mind actually helps me get my own writing done. Even when I'm editing I'm still in that stream of consciousness state that keeps me in the story. It's honestly shocking how well it's been helping me.
Agreed. Every week in my AP English Class I have to write a 250 Word response to a Prompt. I struggle the first time but then I just started to separately write whatever thoughts came to mind and then connect/polish them up later.
Depends on the person. I'm not a writer and I'm the opposite personality to Jake Sisko (ESTJ instead of INFP) and I have to have a good idea to write down (which I do occasionally) otherwise there's no use. Editing I find much easier than writing from scratch, and writing parodies is easier than songwriting. That's for writing fiction, but writing down whatever comes to mind can still be helpful for journaling and making to-do lists.
This episode was the first time I ever felt that tingling feeling back in 1996 when it aired on TV. The more I think about it the more I think this episode was designed for ASMR; soft speaking, head massages/personal attention, pen/paper noise.
Had the same experience with that potion scene in death becomes her, back in early 2000s. And even with some written fairytales! The Italian silver nose for example
This is a variation of the Scottish legend of the 'Leannán Sídhe'; a powerfully-inspirational, predatory phantom who usually takes the form of a beautiful woman. A person who falls under the influence of one of these beings will produce works of genius, but at the price of a premature death... and yes, it is rumored that that's what happened to poet John Keats, who wrote world-famous poems and died at age 25.
@Joshua Skaug: More or less. An interesting aspect of the legend is that at least some of the Leannán Sídhe's 'victims' were/ are willing participants. Imagine for a moment, that you have notable talent in some artistic field- music, painting, architecture, writing, etc. You work hard at developing this talent, for you're passionate about doing great things in your field, but you're tormented by doubts about whether you really possess sufficient ability. Now imagine that you meet an attractive person whose very presence enables you to express your artistic gifts to the fullest. Under their influence (which may or may not include sex), you can achieve your highest potential, and produce masterpieces that will be admired and acclaimed well beyond your own time. Your name will be remembered for centuries to come. The price: a shortened lifespan. Undoubtedly, a lot of aspiring artists would consider this an acceptable exchange.
@@jenniferweston7621 Funny that you should mention that some partners of the Leannan Sidhe were willing. There's a video game I've wanted to make for years now that intimidates me because I'm afraid I won't make it correctly. And I know I have the ability to make it because I have a knack for mathematics, programming and music. I don't know if video games could be considered art, but if I were to ever meet a Leannan Sidhe who offered to inspire me to make it in exchange for my life force, I would consent to her knowing full well all the consequences involved. Better to live a fulfilling few years full of creativity and passion than a few decades as just another cog in the capitalist machine. If I knew how to summon a Leannan Sidhe, I would try...
Dude to a unfortunate cultural mistranslation, if you were ever to ask a Vulcan to give you an Auto Sensory Meridian Response, you'll gonna get Nerve Pinched.
it's this kind of thing that made those old series and movies so great, they had many ASMR scenes or at least many of those old movies/series have ASMR scenes. this one gave me such a high, I decided to listen to it when I'm in bed, because it'll knock me out.
I just noticed that the first sentence of Jake's novel bears similarity to the first sentence of Benny Russel's DS9 story- they both describe the main character looking out a window.
At 3:28 she sounds just like Glados from the Portal video game series! Especially when Glados says "Deadly neurotoxin"! I can't be the only one who's thought that. 🤔 🤔
That's an actual kind of paper, called 'onionskin'. It's stronger than it looks and has a subtly textured surface, the better to produce that soothing pen-on-paper scratching which helps Onaya cast her spell over Jake. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onionskin
Focal point of the body's bioelectric field. Damn Star Trek knew about asmr long before UA-cam did. 😂 ... Incidentally I should listen to ASMR next time I write.
You know DS9's writers thought they were the stars of the show when they made episodes about writers. It's like me writing an episode focusing on Nog's video gaming obsession.
Presumably she's still pursuing this lifestyle: locating, inspiring, feeding off of, and eventually causing the deaths of young artistic geniuses throughout the Galaxy. Some of them might even realize exactly what she's doing, and consider it worth the price.
She had told Jake, upon first meeting him, that she could discern he had the talent to be a great writer and she could teach him techniques to develop it. And she was telling the truth as far as it went, but neglected to mention something rather important...
All those lit candles and gauze fabric strewn around the place would have made me cringe if I were in charge of fire safety on the DS9 set. One stray breeze and the whole soundstage would have gone up like the Hindenburg.
I’ve never seen an episode of DS9, but I can’t believe that this episode in particular seems to be so popularly hated when this scene is so different and compelling.
There are two plots in this episode; it's the other one that gets the hate. Which is certainly a shame- Meg Foster's stellar performance deserves a more appreciative audience.
@@puppycatkittymuffin803 : A pregnant Lwaxana Troi arrives on the station, pleading for Odo to help her escape her controlling husband who's threatening to take possession of the child (I won't give away what measures Odo uses to achieve this.)
If I were 17 and some older women was rubbing my head during a writing assignment... I would find that weird. Especialy when she would nearly lick my ear 😳
She is such a good actress. I can't imagine anyone doing this scene better. She expresses the expected emotions perfectly.
Meg foster is class. She actually has a great scene with Robert Duncan McNeil (from voyager) in masters of the universe.
For someone who has never put pen to paper before, he's got great penmanship.
Steven Harvey probably simulated it before, like with they’re equivalent to an iPad
he says he's never worked on paper, meaning writing his work.
Like a painter putting brush to canvas
Yea his hand writing should be pretty basic, but it's not.
He's a natural.
The woman playing Onaya is a wonderful and underrated actress named Meg Foster, who is probably best known for being the original TV version of Cagney on Cagney and Lacey before she was fired for "not being sufficiently feminine". Before this, she starred as Hester Prynne in a humble but faithful adaptation of The Scarlet Letter. Her performance was spellbinding and contained many moments of her voice modulated in a similar way as it is here, though for shorter intervals. It is always a treat to both see and hear her.
The Ram God
I have watched her Hester Prynne again and again because, to borrow a favorite term from the Puritans, I find her absolutely bewitching. Happy Halloween!
you too mate!
found meg fosters youtube account XD
Wasn't she also in "Masters of the Universe"?
@@Hubbs10 yeah and in They Live
Jake: I've never worked on paper before.
Goes on to write in perfect cursive. Lol
Maybe he learned writing on digital tablets.
he might have meant "work" as in writing novels not as in "never have used paper".
In all seriousness this advice of just writing whatever comes to mind actually helps me get my own writing done. Even when I'm editing I'm still in that stream of consciousness state that keeps me in the story.
It's honestly shocking how well it's been helping me.
Indeed. Overcoming the inertia is often the hardest part.
Same. School always teaches to plan everything out first, but what actually helps me is just writing something down
Agreed. Every week in my AP English Class I have to write a 250 Word response to a Prompt. I struggle the first time but then I just started to separately write whatever thoughts came to mind and then connect/polish them up later.
Depends on the person. I'm not a writer and I'm the opposite personality to Jake Sisko (ESTJ instead of INFP) and I have to have a good idea to write down (which I do occasionally) otherwise there's no use. Editing I find much easier than writing from scratch, and writing parodies is easier than songwriting.
That's for writing fiction, but writing down whatever comes to mind can still be helpful for journaling and making to-do lists.
This episode was the first time I ever felt that tingling feeling back in 1996 when it aired on TV. The more I think about it the more I think this episode was designed for ASMR; soft speaking, head massages/personal attention, pen/paper noise.
If it wasn't, it may as well have been.
Same.
Indeed. This one and the cloud episode of voyager when chicotay helped Janeway find her animal guide
Had the same experience with that potion scene in death becomes her, back in early 2000s. And even with some written fairytales!
The Italian silver nose for example
If Meg Foster ever considered a career in ASMR she would be absolutely perfect ❤️
I would never be able to do this scene if I were playing Jake Sisko. the ASMR is too damn strong.
My words would become scribbles when she’s rubbing my head
"I've never wrote with pen and paper before"
Writes like a Harvard English professor!
There's lots of episodes where he's writing on a tablet with a stylus.
This is a variation of the Scottish legend of the 'Leannán Sídhe'; a powerfully-inspirational, predatory phantom who usually takes the form of a beautiful woman. A person who falls under the influence of one of these beings will produce works of genius, but at the price of a premature death... and yes, it is rumored that that's what happened to poet John Keats, who wrote world-famous poems and died at age 25.
It's rumored that Kurt Cobain fell victim to one also.
How weird Star Trek has a sub-genre of sex ghosts... Crusher's candle, Jake's muse... Voyager probably had a couple.
@Joshua Skaug: More or less. An interesting aspect of the legend is that at least some of the Leannán Sídhe's 'victims' were/ are willing participants.
Imagine for a moment, that you have notable talent in some artistic field- music, painting, architecture, writing, etc. You work hard at developing this talent, for you're passionate about doing great things in your field, but you're tormented by doubts about whether you really possess sufficient ability.
Now imagine that you meet an attractive person whose very presence enables you to express your artistic gifts to the fullest. Under their influence (which may or may not include sex), you can achieve your highest potential, and produce masterpieces that will be admired and acclaimed well beyond your own time. Your name will be remembered for centuries to come.
The price: a shortened lifespan.
Undoubtedly, a lot of aspiring artists would consider this an acceptable exchange.
@@jenniferweston7621 Funny that you should mention that some partners of the Leannan Sidhe were willing. There's a video game I've wanted to make for years now that intimidates me because I'm afraid I won't make it correctly. And I know I have the ability to make it because I have a knack for mathematics, programming and music. I don't know if video games could be considered art, but if I were to ever meet a Leannan Sidhe who offered to inspire me to make it in exchange for my life force, I would consent to her knowing full well all the consequences involved. Better to live a fulfilling few years full of creativity and passion than a few decades as just another cog in the capitalist machine. If I knew how to summon a Leannan Sidhe, I would try...
@@MaidLeila90 : There are definitely moments when I feel that way.
Now THIS is real ASMR. Wow.
I wonder if Vulcans have ASMR...if they do, it must be intense as hell.
M M designed to maximize tingle efficiency with utmost logic
@@mercedesbt1100 Tingles mathematically 😂😂😂
Definitely looking up tuvok asmr role play tonight.
Dude to a unfortunate cultural mistranslation, if you were ever to ask a Vulcan to give you an Auto Sensory Meridian Response, you'll gonna get Nerve Pinched.
it's this kind of thing that made those old series and movies so great, they had many ASMR scenes or at least many of those old movies/series have ASMR scenes.
this one gave me such a high, I decided to listen to it when I'm in bed, because it'll knock me out.
when i watched this episode, it was truly a asmr moment.
*is it weird that i searched this up?*
The likes mean:
Yeah, I feel also weird because I searched for this.😄
A little...
A little bit but I won't judge
Yes. It's also worrying that I got this recommend.
Yes but youre in good company
This was ASMR before anyone knew what that was.
Truly wish i could find more asmr on tv/movies like this one .
Just found this a few days ago. Love it!
...
"Now keep going."
"What do you mean 'keep going'?"
"Uh write more shit, dumb ass."
I just noticed that the first sentence of Jake's novel bears similarity to the first sentence of Benny Russel's DS9 story- they both describe the main character looking out a window.
How on earth is anyone supposed to write a page, let alone a whole NOVEL with this much ASMR?
Whenever I get writers block I come to this scene
4:20 jake paper isn't cheap! Hasn't been since the great tree war of 2115! Use both sides damnit!
😄
Both sides on translucent sheets? Only if you don't want people to be able to read it.
Good thing to know I'm not alone thinking this was asmr
It feels like someones massaging the back of my head
i hope you know asmr 🤗
I was searching for this video when I stumbled upon ASMR many eons ago...
3:26 best part imo. Idk something about the foramen magnum part makes my brain feel very relaxed.
You're not the only one.
It knows it's being talked about.
At 3:28 she sounds just like Glados from the Portal video game series! Especially when Glados says "Deadly neurotoxin"! I can't be the only one who's thought that. 🤔 🤔
Yes it's the way her voice cracks I think, she also has the same inlfection throigh most of it.
That’s some thin paper.
That's an actual kind of paper, called 'onionskin'. It's stronger than it looks and has a subtly textured surface, the better to produce that soothing pen-on-paper scratching which helps Onaya cast her spell over Jake.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onionskin
@@jenniferweston7621 are they rarely sold?
@@Dr.HooWho: You won't find onionskin paper in every office-supply aisle, but art-supply stores often carry it. And you can shop for it online.
This scene is putting me to sleep 😴
In all truth, this is some pretty good advice
The feeding of creative energy?
@@Irrelevant402 Don't be stupid, you know what he meant.
Focal point of the body's bioelectric field.
Damn Star Trek knew about asmr long before UA-cam did. 😂
...
Incidentally I should listen to ASMR next time I write.
To be fair, UA-cam didn't exist when this episode aired.
this whole scene is just magical
This is weirdly relaxing lol.
It helps me sleep 💤
@@Berserker_Louis1117 2:30 and up is when it starts to be very relaxing lol
I hear the Cicada 33301 song playing. Such a timeless piece.
You know DS9's writers thought they were the stars of the show when they made episodes about writers. It's like me writing an episode focusing on Nog's video gaming obsession.
This episode is my life’s contemplation
As a writer this hits me deep.
Do you put pen to paper as an artist puts brush to canvas? Let's the words......flooow
I'm surprised that no one's talking about how genuinely creepy she is.Great delivery
Cause it's a woman. It could never be accepted if omaya was a man
@@Reshme77 true
Shes stealing his tingles!
A shame we never got a resolution to this character.
Presumably she's still pursuing this lifestyle: locating, inspiring, feeding off of, and eventually causing the deaths of young artistic geniuses throughout the Galaxy. Some of them might even realize exactly what she's doing, and consider it worth the price.
@@jenniferweston7621 I'm sure, I just think I would have liked to see a resolution to her character. See her brought to justice of some kind.
On the plus side, the galaxy will surely benefit from the masterpieces of art, literature, and architecture that she'll help these geniuses to create.
@@jenniferweston7621 Yea at a cost.
Exactly. I'm sure that was the episode writers' point.
Star Trek ASMR.
StASMR Trek
Jake probably thought she was just gonna be his manager or something....
She had told Jake, upon first meeting him, that she could discern he had the talent to be a great writer and she could teach him techniques to develop it. And she was telling the truth as far as it went, but neglected to mention something rather important...
I mean I get she's draining people of their life, but if you get to write amazing novels of legendary status then I think that's a pretty fair trade.
Perhaps, so long as you know what the deal is.
But she did not inform Jake about the price of this inspiration, and that was not fair.
@@jenniferweston7621 fair
OHH I remember this episode
Haven't you ever been alone in a womans quarters before?
@GandalftheWise Were you ever alone with Nienna in her halls, Olorin?
Where is admiral Ackbar when you need him ;-)
In another franchise
Is she a trap?
It's a trap!
Admiral Ackbar wants to know your location
I kinda wish i was that guy. Not just because of his beautiful penmanship.
Best movie asmr ever
she is powerfull energetic vampire
the asmrtist from outer space
Before I knew it was DS9, I thought the lady was Rocky Dennis with a forehead like that.
All those lit candles and gauze fabric strewn around the place would have made me cringe if I were in charge of fire safety on the DS9 set. One stray breeze and the whole soundstage would have gone up like the Hindenburg.
Wow this was good just happened to pop up in my suggestion page 😊
I was going to make a joke about calling this ASMR silly then I remembered that when my boyfriend and I watched it he fell asleep…
I’ve never seen an episode of DS9, but I can’t believe that this episode in particular seems to be so popularly hated when this scene is so different and compelling.
There are two plots in this episode; it's the other one that gets the hate. Which is certainly a shame- Meg Foster's stellar performance deserves a more appreciative audience.
@@jenniferweston7621 what was the other plot?
@@puppycatkittymuffin803 : A pregnant Lwaxana Troi arrives on the station, pleading for Odo to help her escape her controlling husband who's threatening to take possession of the child (I won't give away what measures Odo uses to achieve this.)
Love that Meg Foster!! 😍😍😍
How can he write with all this talking going on?
She brings out your best but the price is death.... a demon made an appearance in ST.
2013 wow you must have invented asmr
Your weapons, your armour...
The “coming of age” vibes are heavy with this one. When I saw this episode I definitely thought jake was going to become a man..
Jesus fuck. If your name is jake NEVER, EVER watch this when you are on shrooms.
watching star trek on shrooms?
Can we be friends? 😂
Meg Foster is SOOOO attractive...
Yes, and her voice is even better!
Where's Captain Sisko!? JAKE NO THIS IS A TRAP!
imagine Yoda doing this to his padawans Mhmmm find the force you will XD
Just 👏 amazing my friend
Is the music from this part available anywhere?
DrewPicklesTheDark did you ever find it?
I don't think you'll ever find it. It may have only been composed for this scene and may only be as long as this scene.
From a post in the comments I found this:
ua-cam.com/video/DrdKWMN1w2c/v-deo.htmlm51s
27 years ago. 2023 wow.
Is that one of those ceramic light up Christmas trees behind the curtain?
So, Meg Foster managed to stimulate a ' Kundalini awakening ' in Jake 🤔
I'll have what he's having
Why was the whole episode wasn't on here?
If I were 17 and some older women was rubbing my head during a writing assignment... I would find that weird. Especialy when she would nearly lick my ear 😳
Season 4 episode 20.
Actually Season 4 episode 21
Very relaxing 😊🙂👌
Can you please tell me the name of this show please? Episode season?
You have all that information in the video info above
That lady looks like Kelsey Grammar.
2:25 onwards
Kid kinda sounds like Wesley Crusher.
He-Man brought me here... Evil Lyn!!!!!!! :-) Great actress.
She was also in John Carpenter's They Live. She played a human collaborator with the Aliens in that movie!
i accidentally clicked on this and the lady scared the crap outta me
3:23
2:57
3:21
3:27
She's creeping me out a little lol.
Lady creepers can be just as scary as male
💆🏽♀️📝🗣
She got a Only fans?
I'm sure they have onlyfans in the 24th century.
@@klixx_yt2396 That's kind of the point of Quark's holosuit.
@@BenjaminWirtz Lol.
😂😂😂
Maybe
I know he young ass hell an she old
This makes sense since women perfer to read porn then watch....
ASMR has no real effect on me.
Okay?
3:26