How GOOD was Golem ACTUALLY? - History of Golem in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 1-7)

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  • Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
  • Golem is this week’s Pokemon for our competitive history series! Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Golem in competitive Pokemon!
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    0:00 - Intro
    1:00 - RBY/Gen 1
    3:44 - GSC/Gen 2
    5:54 - ADV/Gen 3
    7:09 - DPP/Gen 4
    8:35 - BW/Gen 5
    9:46 - XY/Gen 6
    10:37 - SM/Gen 7
    12:09 - Gen 7 VGC
    12:43 - Outro
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    DISCLAIMERS ON FORMATS COVERED:
    Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
    To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for singles and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6 and 7, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
    For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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  • @dadude1564
    @dadude1564 3 роки тому +1602

    Can we have a minute of silence for all the kids who couldn'y evolve graveler

    • @Ghostkilla773
      @Ghostkilla773 3 роки тому +87

      That was me back in the day

    • @jagjitasa
      @jagjitasa 3 роки тому +43

      I actually like graveller more than golem

    • @jeremiahjacob4603
      @jeremiahjacob4603 2 роки тому +9

      @@jagjitasa same. To me he looked cooler. What's your reason

    • @jagjitasa
      @jagjitasa 2 роки тому +26

      @@jeremiahjacob4603 it looks like a geodude evo more than golem

    • @rubiconprime1429
      @rubiconprime1429 2 роки тому +9

      I swear for some reason in Heartgold I was able to evolve a traveller into Golem at level 30. I have no idea how I have this memory.

  • @renyuuzu
    @renyuuzu 5 років тому +3442

    First half of the video: How Good was Rhydon 2.5

    • @jupiter843
      @jupiter843 5 років тому +173

      How Good Rhydon was Compared to Golem.

    • @thefinnishchamp
      @thefinnishchamp 5 років тому +103

      More like Rhydon 0.7 since Rhydon was always better.

    • @jananthonyadaoag1297
      @jananthonyadaoag1297 5 років тому +9

      True hahaha xD

    • @gameinsane4718
      @gameinsane4718 5 років тому +12

      All fairness they are the same niche

    • @MasterRoyalSnow
      @MasterRoyalSnow 5 років тому +75

      Imma just leave this here: how tf do we go from rock w arms, rock w 4 arms, to a lizard stuck in a rock? This isn't discussed enough 😤

  • @mimesforcrimes8393
    @mimesforcrimes8393 2 роки тому +302

    And now Golem is in Gen 1 NU, because someone had to quadruple check how body slam paralysis works

    • @Filsantos86
      @Filsantos86 2 роки тому +42

      It's funny how common he was in Gen 1 and how overlooked it was in Gen 2, and now it's exactly other way around. Either way, Gen 2 is def the best for Golem due to how omnipresent Spikes is and due to how good Explosion is too.

    • @et34t34fdf
      @et34t34fdf Рік тому +1

      @@Filsantos86 Explosion is no better in gen 2.
      Golem is overrated in gen 2 imo.

    • @gregorymirabella1423
      @gregorymirabella1423 Рік тому +22

      @@et34t34fdf explosion got massively buffed in gen 2.

    • @xdress1746
      @xdress1746 Рік тому +15

      Golem is one of the best checks for the strongest, 100% pickrate Pokémon in gen 2 OU.
      Overrated, it is not.

    • @gibleEKvids
      @gibleEKvids 11 місяців тому +2

      @@et34t34fdf how is golem overrated lol, its the sturdiest spinner besides forretress but has the most damage output

  • @SuperDuperDanni
    @SuperDuperDanni 5 років тому +597

    Golem never gets any love lmao glad he finally got his own video 😄

    • @ii-jy6gd
      @ii-jy6gd 3 роки тому +5

      @Wow_ItsEricc ikr

    • @abhyudayjha2186
      @abhyudayjha2186 3 роки тому +4

      S for Steelix

    • @elnachosimio
      @elnachosimio 3 роки тому +5

      Octillery doesn't get enough love either

    • @jorgensentylor16
      @jorgensentylor16 3 роки тому +6

      @@elnachosimio for good reason

    • @elnachosimio
      @elnachosimio 3 роки тому +2

      @@jorgensentylor16 you can sweep with Octillery... if there is no Moody clause

  • @hopelessgamer7677
    @hopelessgamer7677 5 років тому +815

    Damn, we need that rapid spin tutor again.

    • @fulgenzio89
      @fulgenzio89 5 років тому +10

      Hopeless Gamer Now we have Defog

    • @Peashooter521
      @Peashooter521 5 років тому +87

      @@fulgenzio89 rapid spin removes only the hazards on your side

    • @baszko8501
      @baszko8501 5 років тому +16

      @@fulgenzio89 Well logically some pokemon who could get rapid spin would never get defog(unless pokemon is going the route where it doesn't have to make sense)

    • @theeevenger4185
      @theeevenger4185 5 років тому +39

      @joe53820 Defog clears both sides of the field while rapid spin cleans only your side so rapid spin is still the better move imo.

    • @manuelsilva9993
      @manuelsilva9993 5 років тому +22

      Rapid spin is not worthless lol it clears just your side of hazards instead of both which is nice but unlike defog it can get blocked they both got their problems

  • @joshuajoestar394
    @joshuajoestar394 5 років тому +357

    Golem is literally a rock grenade

    • @dmurphy915
      @dmurphy915 4 роки тому +17

      But not a land mine🤯

    • @GoTELuckyCharms
      @GoTELuckyCharms 3 роки тому +2

      @@dmurphy915 you mean pancakes?

    • @monsterman4209
      @monsterman4209 3 роки тому +2

      KABOOM 🤯🤯🤯🤯

    • @crashfan9997
      @crashfan9997 2 роки тому +2

      Rhyperior should shoot out Golems rather than Geodudes.

  • @DevonVoixVO
    @DevonVoixVO 5 років тому +278

    Much like a rolling stone, Golem really gained speed when it was heading downhill.

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 5 років тому +20

      Ouch. I mean, I've always preferred Rhydon because it never needed to blow up, but ouch.

  • @Empr4evr
    @Empr4evr 5 років тому +864

    This video should have been titled "How BAD was power creep fro Golem ACTUALLY?".

    • @NotSpecialDude
      @NotSpecialDude 5 років тому +8

      ​@@XCodes The saddest part of all is that technically it still has potential. Ground and Rock are a great offensive combo that hits the major threats hard. But the meta has shifted to where any pokemon with this stab combination needs speed and power over defenses. If any Rock/Ground pokemon want to be relevant now, they need to be speedy sweepers.

    • @diatomsaus
      @diatomsaus 5 років тому +5

      As bad as the lack of food in the ancom commune.

    • @nas5276
      @nas5276 5 років тому +10

      "How BAD was power creep fro Golem ACTUALLY?"
      As bad as Communism's track record, except Golem actually had one good start.

    • @nas5276
      @nas5276 5 років тому +1

      @@diatomsaus lol XD

    • @Smart1529
      @Smart1529 4 роки тому

      @@NotSpecialDude The only time Golem and Rhyperior can sweep is in Trick Room

  • @openinginawe5518
    @openinginawe5518 5 років тому +1527

    Golem Rocked and rolled.
    ...Also being honest Its evolution is confusing it turns from a Rock to a 4 armed rock to a rock lizard?
    ...then again.

    • @Trashboiitay
      @Trashboiitay 5 років тому +34

      Opening in Awe rock lizard? Onix? Isn’t part of golem evolution line

    • @snackwrap2616
      @snackwrap2616 5 років тому +142

      i remember as a kid learning for the first time that onix wasn't the evolved form of geodude

    • @FalcnPWNCH
      @FalcnPWNCH 5 років тому +115

      many of the gen 1 evolution lines felt inconsistent in a similar manner - like for example Squirtle -> Wartortle -> Blastoise - for some reason Squirtle gains a bushy tail tail and ears.... than loses them and instead evolves into having short stubby tail and ears and water cannons protruding out of it's shell - I know there's a background in japanese mythology with Wartortle's looks, but still the design of the evolution just goes into a completely different direction from the middle stage which has always disturbed me

    • @TheDeathmail
      @TheDeathmail 5 років тому +54

      Technically, not a lizard, but a golem... it's given turtle like looks because it can get inside itself and role as a bolder...

    • @SquidSystem
      @SquidSystem 5 років тому +19

      He was a ROCK... LIZARD!

  • @CritsuKirby
    @CritsuKirby 5 років тому +793

    Wow, I thought Alolan Golem was terrible, but it has certainly contributed to the argument: "not all of OU is OU." The fact that it checks a lot of Pokémon that are hard to get around, especially Magearna and Heatran, makes me look at it in better light.

    • @fulgenzio89
      @fulgenzio89 5 років тому +78

      CritsuKirby I think it's the only Untiered with a niche in OU.

    • @CritsuKirby
      @CritsuKirby 5 років тому +58

      @@fulgenzio89
      There is Camerupt, whose Mega is banned from NU, but the base form is untiered. But since Megas are considered their own Pokémon in Smogon, you're correct.

    • @nickcostanza8730
      @nickcostanza8730 5 років тому +46

      @@fulgenzio89 Ditto is actually the most notable untiered mon with OU usage

    • @tapocollino
      @tapocollino 5 років тому +35

      Most low tiered Pokemon that are viable in OU are not "good". They have niches, some very important, that make them viable.
      e.g. Pyukumuku, Ribombee, Avalugg, Quagsire, Quilfish, Gastrodon, and as someone else mentioned, Ditto.
      If you're interested you can go read some of these analyses. They really show off how complex and creative competitive Pokemon can become.

    • @-_-379
      @-_-379 5 років тому +1

      @@nickcostanza8730 Never have i seen a ditto on a serious OU team. Its stat is really sad, so even if it transform into another OU mons, i doubt that it would pull off something spectacular.

  • @diegopinkman4084
    @diegopinkman4084 2 роки тому +71

    Quick update for future viewers: turns out, in gen1 normal types can't be paralyzed by Body Slam. That change made Chansey and Snorlax almost mandatory with reflect, so now Explosion Golem isn't nearly as useful. This made it completely outclassed by Rhydon, so it dropped to UU. But UU is filled with water types and Golem doesn't do anything since it is too slow and ended in NU. Yeah...

  • @TheMajesticMrL
    @TheMajesticMrL 5 років тому +197

    I remember using a Golem in Battle Royal with my friends with the idea of a Galavanize Explosion gimmick
    and then my friend sent out his Swampert with Damp

    • @MisterSleep1123
      @MisterSleep1123 4 роки тому +19

      F-MEGA

    • @ZealOnWheels704
      @ZealOnWheels704 3 роки тому +2

      @@MisterSleep1123 Serrect ur cr!

    • @bestplayerofalltime105
      @bestplayerofalltime105 3 роки тому +4

      Who tf runs damp swampert

    • @jns0808
      @jns0808 3 роки тому

      @@ryantan3070 not really, grass resist berry + some bulk investment and you can rain down torrent-boosted water moves

    • @jns0808
      @jns0808 3 роки тому

      @@ryantan3070 not at all. They're viable on several Pokémon in singles, like chople on stakataka or occa on fortress in previous gens

  • @Carlitonsp1
    @Carlitonsp1 5 років тому +311

    Finally. You've completed the top 8 of Gen 1.
    *Achievement Unlocked*

  • @consoleking9670
    @consoleking9670 5 років тому +189

    “We prefer order to chaos”
    Lord Helix is displeased

    • @DrPumpkinz
      @DrPumpkinz 5 років тому +5

      Dome all the way.

    • @emiledlund9559
      @emiledlund9559 4 роки тому +5

      All hail our master, Kabuto

    • @antoniofonce9262
      @antoniofonce9262 4 роки тому +2

      Kabuto the god defeats helix

    • @Acacius1992
      @Acacius1992 3 роки тому +1

      So glad to see there are people who dont worship the false prophet.
      All hail Lord Dome!

    • @microwave8931
      @microwave8931 3 роки тому +2

      Pearl is displeased
      any splatoon fans out here

  • @991yugioh
    @991yugioh 5 років тому +251

    10:41 To jack up explosion...
    "Golm gets bigger in the corner"
    Me: oh man lol.

    • @AFreshHotBun
      @AFreshHotBun 5 років тому +8

      991yugioh I noticed that 😂

  • @jeviljoker7143
    @jeviljoker7143 5 років тому +173

    Man, poor Golem. What bugs me it's most of sets had "Sucker Punch" on it. You know how difficult is getting one of those these days? Sucker Punch was a tutor move on POKEMON PLATINUM! You have to send a 4th gen Golem all the way to Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon, and Smogon had the move on all sets too.

    • @aminadabbrulle8252
      @aminadabbrulle8252 5 років тому +29

      In Mew video Softboiled, tutor move from generation 3, was established to be mandatory in every gen.

    • @Dummymosa
      @Dummymosa 5 років тому +42

      @@aminadabbrulle8252 its not really mandatory when roost is a tm and does the same thing, softboiled just sounds nicer lol

    • @aminadabbrulle8252
      @aminadabbrulle8252 5 років тому +5

      @@Dummymosa Oh, yeah. I forgot about Roost.

    • @Tetzll123
      @Tetzll123 5 років тому +2

      @@Dummymosa gets hit by earthquake

    •  5 років тому +2

      And even worse, you have to grind in the battle frontier, and lord knows that's tedious ~

  • @cool140000
    @cool140000 5 років тому +33

    A lot of older Pokémon just need a stat boost, like 20-40 in important places. Golem with +30 HP and +10 Attack could be… better.

  • @micdrop344
    @micdrop344 5 років тому +548

    I always saw Golem as a golf ball, honestly 💁

    • @Popinazo
      @Popinazo 5 років тому +1

      what? isn't that?

    • @alexreznov45
      @alexreznov45 5 років тому +9

      maybe we'll have a golf ball variant in Galar.

    • @micdrop344
      @micdrop344 5 років тому +1

      @G G, nice one. :)

    • @MinusNegativeZer0
      @MinusNegativeZer0 5 років тому +4

      You see them in golf fields because you gotta... Golfem

    • @leovuitton9117
      @leovuitton9117 5 років тому +2

      Your a golfball you goofball

  • @IDM4Sunlights
    @IDM4Sunlights 5 років тому +684

    All right kids, say it with me:
    GIVE BACK RAPID SPIN TO GOLEM

    • @ArtisanWarriorMX
      @ArtisanWarriorMX 5 років тому +23

      You can get it in later games via Gold and Silver Virtual Consoles. Just transfer it over using Pokemon Bank. :3

    • @WingedFish66
      @WingedFish66 5 років тому +61

      No you can't. Rapid Spin was an event-only move, so it's impossible to get a Rapid Spin Golem from the VC games

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 5 років тому +77

      It would be really interesting to see both forms get Rapid Spin. The Alolan form could theoretically pair it with Galvanize to not get spinblocked by Ghost types.
      Yeah it'd be blocked by Ground types instead, but hey, discard and draw.

    • @TCT2023
      @TCT2023 4 роки тому +33

      I honestly don't get why Golem didn't have rapid spin normally.
      It makes total sense that it would have it.

    • @meghanaingleshwar
      @meghanaingleshwar 4 роки тому +4

      The Cartridge Tilter I know right!

  • @Yfighter2
    @Yfighter2 5 років тому +16

    Golem will forever have a special place in my heart because of its ability to perform in cute and beauty contests in ORAS 😊

  • @ibtiago18
    @ibtiago18 5 років тому +65

    I use an A-Golem in my trick room team. It has Galvanize, so I can use Return for eletrical stab.

    • @NeoGraena
      @NeoGraena 5 років тому +1

      you can use double edge too :p

    • @ibtiago18
      @ibtiago18 5 років тому +2

      @@NeoGraena I know, but I prefer to avoid the recoil damage.

    • @NeoGraena
      @NeoGraena 5 років тому

      ohh ok @@ibtiago18

    • @RandalfElVikingo
      @RandalfElVikingo 4 роки тому

      I used a Stealth Rock Sturdy Golem with Custap Berry for an Explosion in OU back in Gen5. I learned that set from Pimpnite and it was really useful in the weather wars.

    • @roninwarriorsfan
      @roninwarriorsfan 3 роки тому

      @@ibtiago18 leftovers or shell bell can off shoot the recoil

  • @At0micPunk90
    @At0micPunk90 4 роки тому +32

    It's kind of depressing what power creep has done to a lot of my favorites from Gen 1.

  • @qwilliams1539
    @qwilliams1539 5 років тому +783

    Keep the requests in the Community Tab, people. Do not put them here.

    • @vladtepes2667
      @vladtepes2667 5 років тому +56

      How Great was Ditto

    • @goyut1
      @goyut1 5 років тому +19

      Yet people still do it

    • @sayvionwashington1939
      @sayvionwashington1939 5 років тому +14

      They don't care mate

    • @bvd_vlvd
      @bvd_vlvd 5 років тому +79

      How IGNORANT was Community ACTUALLY?

    • @zaksharman2903
      @zaksharman2903 5 років тому +3

      frankly the comments were ruined by no longer requests because now i cant contribute to the channel

  • @medicami
    @medicami 5 років тому +196

    Geodude is a Geode
    Graveler is Gravel
    Golem is a Golem!
    AKA they're all just rocks

    • @jxnas4222
      @jxnas4222 4 роки тому

      :l
      I think everyone knows that ever since gen 3

    • @Ghorda9
      @Ghorda9 4 роки тому +3

      @@jxnas4222 the golem family is gen 1..

    • @jxnas4222
      @jxnas4222 4 роки тому

      Ghorda9
      I meant by that is when Pokémon really became popular around the world.... and when most 6-9years old played it.

    • @Ghorda9
      @Ghorda9 4 роки тому +9

      @@jxnas4222 pokemon already became popular around the world in the mid/late 90s with gen 1.

    • @RBEO22
      @RBEO22 4 роки тому +3

      Golems are made of clay; not rock.

  • @Nintendown
    @Nintendown 5 років тому +12

    That OU niche for Alola-Golem was awesome. Had no idea it could work like that! Definitely something for me to consider on my next OU teambuild.

  • @h0m3st4r
    @h0m3st4r 5 років тому +51

    Much like Tauros and Exeggutor, Golem's history is the sad tale of a once-great Pokemon that just couldn't keep up with the times. At least its Alolan form has some use in OU, though.

    • @Mitjitsu
      @Mitjitsu 5 років тому +3

      The problem was Explosion getting nerfed over time.

    • @shirshanyaroy287
      @shirshanyaroy287 5 років тому +4

      We need megas to come back and grace these with new forms

    • @Smart1529
      @Smart1529 4 роки тому

      They need to give Golem more health and give him back Rapid Spin

    • @bounce9568
      @bounce9568 2 роки тому

      It’s also nice in rock mono if that counts for anything
      *alolan

    • @AverageHandle_
      @AverageHandle_ 2 роки тому

      @@Smart1529 nah give him more speed and lower his defences a little

  • @alphaaqua2869
    @alphaaqua2869 5 років тому +208

    I love how people here still think you vote in the comments instead of the community tab

    • @M3rtyville
      @M3rtyville 5 років тому +14

      people are skipping the ending credits parts I think. I do that too honestly.

    • @smoothSnake23
      @smoothSnake23 5 років тому +2

      How Good was Vileplume Actually?

    • @MrZahsome
      @MrZahsome 5 років тому +31

      I love how theres literally NO comments about voting for the next pokemon but theres these comments trying to fetch for likes and attention by pointing out something that has clearly already been acknowledged. You're some kind of special aren't you? 😂😂😂

    • @HeilRay
      @HeilRay 5 років тому +1

      How good was Ash’s underwear actually?

    • @EmperorDionx
      @EmperorDionx 5 років тому +4

      Maybe because only loser virgin pokemon players even know a UA-cam community tab exists?

  • @dracomundo1498
    @dracomundo1498 5 років тому +2

    You know, I love the energy your videos have had for the past few years. Feels good

  • @lordofdrago3492
    @lordofdrago3492 5 років тому +16

    I only recently started playing showdown, and became enamored with ZU of all things, so seeing Golem was quite the treat for me! Great video!

  • @ThePageofRage
    @ThePageofRage 5 років тому +23

    I always just saw it as a round boulder with a head and limbs.
    Honestly, I wish Golem had a mega form, I'd love to see how it would have looked.

    • @TheNadroj10
      @TheNadroj10 5 років тому

      He and machamp really should have gotten a mega

    • @SlimeyCube26
      @SlimeyCube26 5 років тому +2

      Atleast golem got a beard... Hurray...?

    • @jayclearmen411
      @jayclearmen411 2 роки тому

      NO megas the last thing we need is megas they’ve done enough..😒
      the variant was the best thing they could’ve done with it other than giving it a much needed stat buff & +20 Hp & Sp.defense +10 in Atk
      Solid Rock ability

  • @drewcummings2453
    @drewcummings2453 5 років тому +1

    i'd love to see you do a video doing an overview of the general competitive landscape throughout the years. You've covered a lot of it multiple times throughout this series, but having a dedicated video would be really entertaining, and a great tool for people who might be interested in some of the older metas

  • @CylonDorado
    @CylonDorado 5 років тому +215

    I was kind of salty seeing a Golem video, since I always liked every trade evolution in gen 1, but I didn't always have someone to trade with.

    • @TraumaCenter13
      @TraumaCenter13 5 років тому +11

      I've beaten games with Graveler so it's not that bad.

    • @EmperorDionx
      @EmperorDionx 5 років тому +14

      Golem was the first pokemon I obsessed over, because it was the only time I got my cousin to trade with me on link cable so I could get one lol. After that playthrough ive never had a traded evolution in those games again

    • @gamermanzeake
      @gamermanzeake 5 років тому +50

      Trade evolutions are a bad idea in the first place. It alienates people who cannot do them. The games are still playable without those few Pokemon that can. But I've always loved Scizor and especially since its mega... Yet I've never ever had one.

    • @jacobschmidt3795
      @jacobschmidt3795 5 років тому +5

      @@gamermanzeake Well if you have a 3ds and one of the newer games you could always trade a scyther online. I could always trade with you if you'd like.

    • @gamermanzeake
      @gamermanzeake 5 років тому +4

      @@jacobschmidt3795 I do have a 3Ds! I have Omega Ruby, and I do have ultra Sun and Moon but I haven't even played those yet. I've been so busy. I think the ORAS games are bar none the best Pokemon games in existence! Loved Gen three and they found a way to improve upon a diamond that seemed flawless as it was! I'd love to trade you, and I could help you with your trading needs as well!

  • @viatorinterra
    @viatorinterra 2 роки тому +5

    I'm here from Freezai talking about how Body Slam not paralyzing normal types made Golem NU

  • @ace_stallion
    @ace_stallion 5 років тому +173

    YES!! AFTER 18 MONTHS OF ASKING, IT FINALLY HAPPENED!!

    • @Carlitonsp1
      @Carlitonsp1 5 років тому +8

      It's our true moment of glory.

    • @ace_stallion
      @ace_stallion 5 років тому +6

      @@Carlitonsp1 Yes, it is truly a time of happiness and prosperity.

    • @DJTileTurnip
      @DJTileTurnip 5 років тому +1

      Dedicated

    • @Luciano1571
      @Luciano1571 5 років тому +1

      YEAH!!!
      ... Now what?

    • @ace_stallion
      @ace_stallion 5 років тому

      @G G He didnt do the ice type video till one year in, so how could you have been asking for "almost two years"?

  • @KnufWons
    @KnufWons 5 років тому +5

    I’ve been looking forward to this one.

  • @Gardetrace
    @Gardetrace 5 років тому +8

    It's about time you did Golem! I've only been asking for over 2 years.

    • @rein3417
      @rein3417 5 років тому +1

      It would seem that you no longer need to keep asking lol.

  • @christopherlouis2037
    @christopherlouis2037 5 років тому +20

    I thought I saw Alolan Golem with a monocle in the thumbnail.

  • @UnoriginalFish
    @UnoriginalFish 5 років тому +12

    You definitely missed out on rock polish golem. With full speed+attack rock polish golem is really good. Specially after gen 5 with sturdy and weakness policy rock polish and flail golem is incredibly devestating if you dont come across a priorty move or entrt hazard.

  • @LionsEatNoobs
    @LionsEatNoobs 5 років тому

    Finally, I have been waiting for this one for a long time.

  • @redwarrior118
    @redwarrior118 5 років тому +14

    Alolan Rhyperior....Rock/Dragon typing with Solid Rock would be cool.

  • @majikkarp177
    @majikkarp177 5 років тому +5

    I remember that time where i forgot i sent a geodude and a grimer at the daycare at lvl 5, got them back lvl 60 and evolved my geodude into a grolem

  • @BonelessFolka
    @BonelessFolka 5 років тому +12

    9:45
    Rip the voice crack on "Unfortunately"

  • @Scumborg
    @Scumborg 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for making great content. I'm so burnt out on "big rumor leaks" that all other poketubers have been posting.

  • @MsShySkye
    @MsShySkye 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for showcasing Golem after all this time. I remember using Golem a lot on my teams in Gen 1. I nearly had the same moveset as shown. I had Earthquake, Rockslide, Explosion and Mega Punch. Really good to use on my teams. I also used Rock Polish in the later gens to get a lower tier agilityGross type poke with Golem.

  • @noraomne8739
    @noraomne8739 2 роки тому +3

    0:25 Look up the Machoke trading with Graveler DNA mixup theory!!
    I think its what Graveler got from Machoke in the trade. (Hence Machoke suddenly having four arms post trade evo, while Graveler loses two of his original four arms in the trade, as an example.)

  • @mafiousbj
    @mafiousbj 5 років тому +7

    Golem was that pokemon which i really liked the design but could never get in the games as a kid since i had no one to trade with, and then it got outclassed when i could actually get it ^^

    • @EmperorDionx
      @EmperorDionx 5 років тому +1

      I've found ways to make it work regardless, it still kicks ass and takes names

    • @mafiousbj
      @mafiousbj 5 років тому

      @@EmperorDionx yeah but usually when playing a new game now i try to use the new pokes and not always my gen 1-3 favourites (Let's Go was an exception of course). And then i usually give up mid way my second playthrough and end up not actually using multiple teams ^^. I still love Golem though, obviusly any mon can work for gym battles but i just don't play as much as i used too, and definitively not online anymore :(

  • @snupietherat6814
    @snupietherat6814 5 років тому

    New episode!! Highlight of my week

  • @ManOfSdeel
    @ManOfSdeel Рік тому

    I love this series so much

  • @pksprite6401
    @pksprite6401 3 роки тому +5

    Golem will come back to Gen 1 OU one day, I promise

    • @allenkeettikkal3149
      @allenkeettikkal3149 2 роки тому

      I don’t think it really matters. Golem is really good in Gen 1 NU. It’s at least a better fate than Victreebel.

  • @hopelessgamer7677
    @hopelessgamer7677 5 років тому +35

    There's probably a lot of people in the comments that can finally rest easy with this video coming out.

    • @bigdrip3092
      @bigdrip3092 5 років тому +1

      No when that INFERNAPE video came out that what really settle things down

  • @sephondranzer
    @sephondranzer 5 років тому +1

    FINALLY you did golem!!! Happy day :)

  • @squedaroonie
    @squedaroonie 5 років тому +2

    I feel satisfied. Ceave and FSG uploaded at the same time. Yesss

  • @CheesyCore
    @CheesyCore 5 років тому +5

    finally guys we did it, after 112 weeks

  • @Gopherbee
    @Gopherbee 3 роки тому +6

    I think the rivalry between Golem and Rhydon in gen 1 was a great thing

  • @MCOD1999UK
    @MCOD1999UK 5 років тому +2

    Been waiting over a year for this, I can finally sleep.

  • @christianmanuel8782
    @christianmanuel8782 5 років тому

    After watching this video, I think it would be an interesting idea if you had a side series where you compare and contrast 2 or more Pokemon who are relatively similar. Whether it'd be across every generation, or just one generation for simplicity, or just one generation with more details, the way you compared and contrasted Rhydon and Golem over the years was interesting. Maybe you could include specific damage calculations, roles on different teams, and overall pros and cons of both.
    Regardless, I still love your videos and I always look forward to them every Sunday. Thanks FSG for great, consistent content!

  • @jamespolk5428
    @jamespolk5428 5 років тому +5

    If there were a way to have the effect of assault vest while raising speed, maybe both Golem forms could have a new outlook!

  • @jayanths1221
    @jayanths1221 5 років тому +9

    Damn, some stiff competition between Jynx and Ludicolo next week.

  • @user-hz2ov7ci3b
    @user-hz2ov7ci3b 5 років тому

    Just subbed, great videos

  • @DavidsaurusRex
    @DavidsaurusRex 5 років тому

    Yay! Golem has finally been covered! I've been asking for months!

  • @Flaminstarwarsguy851
    @Flaminstarwarsguy851 5 років тому +3

    Persistence paid off for me. I'm excited to see how this video plays out.
    Man, this was depressing. Design-wise, Golem was among my favorites and it's honestly sad to see it get hit so hard after GSC. Maybe the next generation will be kinder to Golem.

  • @doubleace11554
    @doubleace11554 4 роки тому +5

    9:47
    The voice crack lol

    • @pyiemadofarmule
      @pyiemadofarmule 3 роки тому

      thought i was the only one who noticed lol

  • @redtornado5239
    @redtornado5239 5 років тому

    Awesome Sunday Pokemon episode

  • @poesanchez7755
    @poesanchez7755 5 років тому

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOREVER, YEEEESSSSSS

  • @CrowFGC
    @CrowFGC 5 років тому +6

    As a kid he was my favorite pokemon, I hope he gets buffed up like Rhydon

    • @FortyTheorem
      @FortyTheorem 4 роки тому +1

      Ah dont sweat Rhydon he isnt super anyways.

    • @gamincaimin9954
      @gamincaimin9954 3 роки тому

      @@FortyTheorem Im not even sure why Rhydon ever deserved more than Golem anyway

    • @brendan01
      @brendan01 2 роки тому

      @@gamincaimin9954 lmao only 2 evos and it was better than golem. I wish rhyperior and golem got mega evos.

  • @deltalord6969
    @deltalord6969 5 років тому +99

    Dammit I thought it said "Golurk"

    • @myno1754
      @myno1754 5 років тому +5

      Feels bad man

    • @beunjoris
      @beunjoris 5 років тому +13

      Be happy! You got 4 extra gens of content, compared to if it were Golurk.

    • @TheSilliestGoof
      @TheSilliestGoof 5 років тому +2

      R.I.P
      maybe next time

    • @EmperorDionx
      @EmperorDionx 5 років тому +1

      People actually like golurk?

    • @SuperGuldo
      @SuperGuldo 5 років тому +1

      golurk is ass
      but not as ass as golem
      as ass as as

  • @shawnburton7627
    @shawnburton7627 3 роки тому

    Always nice to learn the mystery/Gifted Pokémon or Certain moves.

  • @alexreys7985
    @alexreys7985 5 років тому +2

    Thanks to this channel i knew about and sought out a wish bagon and now I have a wish Mega Salamence that bops a lot of threats and forces people to double switch out of a wall that had its hp restored before a bolt switch to do it again

  • @gdrgsgdgdfsfgrgdfh
    @gdrgsgdgdfsfgrgdfh 5 років тому +6

    Finally, we are close to finished all OU Pokémon of the first gen!

    • @TheNadroj10
      @TheNadroj10 5 років тому +1

      Who’s left. Also please name actual useful Pokémon. Memes and trash like farfetch don’t count

    • @fulgenzio89
      @fulgenzio89 5 років тому +4

      TheNadroj10 Jynx

    • @TheNadroj10
      @TheNadroj10 5 років тому +2

      Clicca qui per vincere soldi A jynx video would be nice

  • @pepeknight
    @pepeknight 5 років тому +69

    Poor Golem, currently its typing is just painful to see. Two 4x weaknesses along with Four normal ones is plain brutal, but being so slow that it can't take advantage of its amazing STAB combo is just depressing.
    Though to be honest, atleast it was once good, unlike its Alolan Form that will never be a metagame staple, as long as Magnezone and even Magneton exist.

    • @M3rtyville
      @M3rtyville 5 років тому +14

      it has uses in OU like the video descriped. But it isn't good in any other format or to be used how it meant to be. as a classic bomber.
      in PU its worse than regular Golem according to the playerbase

    • @geekgo4
      @geekgo4 5 років тому +4

      It should have been pure rock.

    • @pepeknight
      @pepeknight 5 років тому +4

      @@M3rtyville I know. The point is that Alolan Golem will never be an OU staple unless Magnezone and Magneton are somehow banned, heck people might actually use Magnemite over it like how people used Diglett and Trapinch in Dugtrio's place during the Arena Trap suspect test.

    • @M3rtyville
      @M3rtyville 5 років тому +3

      @@pepeknight alolan Golem has different targets than Magneton and Magnezone. Even if they didn't exist, he would likely see not much use. PU doesn't use Magnemite from my knowledge and alolan Golem isn't viable in any other format minus OU.

    • @pepeknight
      @pepeknight 5 років тому +1

      @@M3rtyville does PU have any steel types for Magnemite to feast on? Cause the only reason Magneton is UU is because Scizor rules the UU tier and is a great partner for Latias.

  • @godofimagination
    @godofimagination 5 років тому +2

    Yes, thank you. After years of asking. You did it.

  • @qwerty11111122
    @qwerty11111122 2 роки тому +2

    Hi! Are you going to do a quick revisit because of the body slam discovery in gen I described in freezai's recent video? It seems pretty recent that Rhydon definitivelyovertook Golem in the RBY meta

  • @CheesyCore
    @CheesyCore 5 років тому +4

    honestly it is sad golem lost rapid spin, in gen 5 he could have been a great substitude to donphan as a check to sand teams that can explode on mons like conk or jirachi with custap, as well as a great replacement to garchomp/forretress in sand as a setter that also threaten stuff with stab earthquake and explosion
    basically doing the same thing excadrill does today, but with sturdy instead of mold breaker
    but he doesnt have rapid spin :(

  • @peanutbutterpikachu
    @peanutbutterpikachu 5 років тому +20

    Galvanize explosion is the way to destroy bulky water types.

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 5 років тому +6

      Unless they're Quagsire. Or Swampert. Or Gastrodon. Or...

    • @cooperm4185
      @cooperm4185 4 роки тому +2

      You can always tell that some FSG viewers have never touched competitive Pokemon

    • @asuuki2048
      @asuuki2048 4 роки тому +2

      Gengarzilla There are far more that will faint to it than not lol

    • @zeteq6766
      @zeteq6766 3 роки тому

      @@gengarzilla1685 ....Seismitoad, Whiscash, Lanturn

  • @littlewing62
    @littlewing62 3 роки тому +2

    golem is an absolute beast from gen 3

  • @Docwilson91
    @Docwilson91 5 років тому

    Odd request for a video, would love to see a video that covers the modern tier system and maybe the evolution of the tier system.

  • @Malicious_Malachi
    @Malicious_Malachi 5 років тому +26

    I always found it weird that they kept the Geodude evolution line Rock/Ground, I always thought he'd become a fighting type since he was just a rock who flexed his arms constantly and Graveler was a 4 armed boulder, Golem on the other hand to me felt like his own Pokemon and not part of the Geodude family.

    • @thescrimble
      @thescrimble 3 роки тому +2

      To be honest, yeah. It's design doesn't at all follow. The other two are literally rocks, but golem is some sort of reptile? Doesn't check out

    • @eizneckam4936
      @eizneckam4936 2 роки тому

      I know they combined some Pokemon evolution lines late in RBY's development (Wartortle did not originally evolve into Blastoise, for example). Maybe Golem was a standalone they combined with Geodude's family to reduce redundancy.

    • @earms2949
      @earms2949 Рік тому

      Golem should be psudo legendary

  • @TytanHavok
    @TytanHavok 5 років тому +5

    If I could change one thing about Competitive Golem, i'd make it so he'd stop getting bullied by Rhydon ;-;

  • @gigglez3036
    @gigglez3036 5 років тому +2

    I am early without the notification bell!

  • @BigFearedBalloon
    @BigFearedBalloon 5 років тому +2

    Hey look, it's Jasper the Golem from Lucahjin's Heartgold LP (Not literally though). She was pretty much my favourite Pokémon in that LP.

  • @bvd_vlvd
    @bvd_vlvd 5 років тому +233

    Day 49 of me commenting you to say yadiyadiyada at the end of the video as you used to

  • @ilian1049
    @ilian1049 5 років тому +26

    Ah angry golfball i used golem in my first ever playthrough in platinum
    If im right my team was
    Empoleon
    Golem
    Leafon
    Other 3 i dont know anymore

  • @Saiune
    @Saiune 5 років тому +2

    There he is! time for the OG rock type!

  • @Lord_KillerBee
    @Lord_KillerBee 3 місяці тому +1

    Golem may have lived in the shadow of Rhydon, but Alolan Golem was able to acquire metal facial hair (beard, mustache, and eyebrows) and gained the ability to zap water types with the power of thunder.

  • @M3rtyville
    @M3rtyville 5 років тому +13

    *sees Golem video*
    It has been 3000 years ;-;
    Still didn't manage to make it into the video

  • @WingedFish66
    @WingedFish66 5 років тому +14

    How good was the Community Tab ACTUALLY?

  • @DoctorDanieI
    @DoctorDanieI 5 років тому

    Perfect timing, just started replaying pokemon yellow and was considering golem.

  • @crapheadcart7710
    @crapheadcart7710 5 років тому

    I really hope what I'm requesting exists somewhere; but if not here goes, you guys should have a database/list of all the Pokemon you have covered already. In that way I would be easier to search for a particular mon and help figure out what to vote for next.

  • @Regunes
    @Regunes 5 років тому +26

    the fact that neither him nor machamp have a mega evolution is heresy

    • @TheNadroj10
      @TheNadroj10 5 років тому +3

      They both should have gotten megas.

    • @Iceblade269
      @Iceblade269 5 років тому +2

      What about their clones? Gigalith and Conk?

    • @EmperorDionx
      @EmperorDionx 5 років тому +5

      @@Iceblade269 I actually like gigalith as a respectable replacement for golem, his rock slides hit like a truck

    • @chuyrenteria6252
      @chuyrenteria6252 5 років тому +4

      @@EmperorDionx And he has sand stream in gen 7.

    • @ianluk6385
      @ianluk6385 5 років тому +2

      I thought of a Mega Machamp for a while, it was something a little like this:
      Type: Dragon/Fighting
      Ability: Martial Artist (Essentially Tough Claws, but a 1.5x instead of 1.3)
      Stats:
      HP: 90
      Attack: 175
      Defense: 135
      Special Attack: 15
      Special Defense: 135
      Speed: 55
      and the ideal moveset might be something like
      Cross Chop
      Dual Chop
      Bulk Up
      Poison Jab
      The idea behind the moveset and typing is that Machamp would be a martial artist who practices Southern Dragon Style Kung Fu. Southern Dragon style is a highly reactive style as far as I know, with the user typically waiting for the opponent to make a move, evade or parry the attack and then counterattack (hence why I didn't change its speed and increased its bulk). I would have included Focus Punch in the moveset, but since Mega Machamp would have no Lefties, I decided against it (the reason being that one of the four rule of Southern Dragon style is "focus to train and condition the body").
      Design: I was thinking that Machamp would keep its four arms, have a Gi much like Sawk and Throh, and have some kind of dragon motif. Some emblems of a Gyarados (because it's a chinese dragon) on the Gi, give it some whiskers like a chinese dragon (really emphasize the hell outta that dragon motif).
      Sorry about the long comment, but I saw your comment and wanted to share my idea for a Mega Machamp.

  • @jeffzzzz1955
    @jeffzzzz1955 5 років тому +5

    I remember when I was younger, me and my friend played through HGSS and he had a Golem which was a big deal to us. He always beat me with it
    Then I received a Kyogre lol

  • @chefdunsparce4254
    @chefdunsparce4254 4 роки тому

    why are these so addicting to watch

  • @Sckeza
    @Sckeza 5 років тому

    I DON'T REMEMBER THAT INTRO THAT LOOKS SO COOL PogChamp

  • @rlpn6710
    @rlpn6710 4 роки тому +3

    How weird is it that Golem got Rapid Spin for 1 generation and then lost it ever since? WTF gamefreak?

  • @xhale671
    @xhale671 5 років тому +3

    I love it when he reviews underrated pokemon
    I do hope yanma and yanmega are next

  • @PsychoSavager289
    @PsychoSavager289 5 років тому +2

    As someone who knows Pokemon exclusively through Pokemon Go, I was surprised Golem wasn't better in the main series games. Because in PoGo, especially in 2017, Golem was basically one of the best Pokemon to do raids with - it was killer against Zapdos, Moltres, Entei and Raikou.

  • @josueavila5625
    @josueavila5625 5 років тому

    I gave up asking for Golem, but finally is here :'D
    Now the quartet of the originals that evolve by trade is complete. :D

  • @ElMaloM
    @ElMaloM 5 років тому +5

    GOLEM IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES! ☺
    THANKS! 😁

  • @JerryG784
    @JerryG784 5 років тому +4

    How good was agumon actually?

  • @pjsamm6980
    @pjsamm6980 5 років тому

    10:40 I see what you did there. That sprite gettin' jacked

  • @jmash3243
    @jmash3243 5 років тому

    btw, have you ever thought of doing revamps of some sort? What I mean is going back to some of the older Pokemon you’ve covered and discussing gen 7, or any other details that may not have been clearly stated in the initial videos. There’s also been clear improvement overtime as you’ve been given more resources, so it’d be interesting to see how you would see your beginning videos.