Trumpet vs Cornet - discussion and demonstration

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  • This video is a discussion and demonstration of the differences between a cornet and a trumpet. The trumpet demonstrated is a Chinese knock-off of a Bach, and the cornet is a Besson Sovereign. I'm using extracts from the air varie 'Napoli' as the demonstration piece.
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  • @irober02
    @irober02 5 років тому +75

    Nice playing. It seems both cornet and trumpet require similar amount of eye-brow agility. ;-)

  • @nattance1
    @nattance1 8 років тому +145

    One of the clearest (and most succinct) explanations of the differences I've ever seen -- thanks. I would really like to see you do a similar one contrasting baritone horns and euphoniums. Here in the US, school bands call euphoniums "baritones" and don't use actual baritones at all!

    • @gerhardhofer8058
      @gerhardhofer8058 7 років тому +16

      It's a fairly simple difference. Euphonium has conical piping, while baritone has cylindrical. Sound-wise, baritone is closer to trombone, while euphonium can be thought of as a mini tuba.

    • @Deimos0VI
      @Deimos0VI 5 років тому +5

      My school calls it the euphonium

    • @sceu25
      @sceu25 3 роки тому +1

      euphoniums also will usually have 4 valves while baritones mostly have 3 but there are 3 valve euphs and 4 valve baris

    • @bobcat24
      @bobcat24 2 роки тому +3

      @@sceu25 It really just depends the model…

    • @sceu25
      @sceu25 2 роки тому

      @@bobcat24 Yea but my point still stands.

  • @FishingForLife28
    @FishingForLife28 5 років тому +41

    I'm back at this video once again. Even though I play both trumpet and cornet, the cornet has a special place in my heart and it annoys me when people call it a trumpet. And I am seriously tired of explaining the difference, so much so that when people ask me what instrument I play, I usually just say that I play the trumpet. I have now made it my mission to make the cornet a known instrument to the common folk. I have started by creating a local band only consisting of cornets. And I urge you, my fellow cornet players to do the same.
    Let us never have to explain the difference between a cornet and a trumpet ever again!

    • @bettinajoseph3758
      @bettinajoseph3758 Рік тому

      Ha ... Once I told a choir colleague that I play trombone (Zugposaune - I'm Austrian), she forgot during the following conversation and called it a "slide trumpet" (Zugtrompete)🤷

    • @lucasirujo8374
      @lucasirujo8374 Рік тому

      Same Bro

    • @cubcadet122
      @cubcadet122 7 місяців тому

      I completely agree with you. Although I play a trumpet, I think post-horns like coronets indeed deserve there own classification.

  • @SiteReader
    @SiteReader 5 років тому +26

    When I was in elementary school band in the 1950s U.S.A., all the parts were for Bb cornet. The band teacher explained to us that the cornet used to be the standard band instrument, but we could play it on trumpet as well. I recently made a friend who is a middle school band teacher. When I looked at his band books, they are still marked for cornet.
    I have a 1955 Conn Victor trumpet, that passed through my younger brother and back to me. I took up the instrument again at age 72. After practicing on the Conn Victor for the first few months, I decided I might like the mellower sound of a cornet. I bought a cheap one online (CR400) from Thomann Music in Germany. Glad I did. I like the sound better, and it's easier to hold up, except for the hand grip, which I find a little tight.

    • @SeekerLancer
      @SeekerLancer 2 роки тому +1

      Pretty much all of my sheet music in high school in the early 2000's was for Bb cornet too.

    • @jeltewijnsma9529
      @jeltewijnsma9529 Рік тому +1

      If u play In a brittish brassband it’s all Bb cornets and one Eb cornet

    • @mycobacteriem2540
      @mycobacteriem2540 3 місяці тому

      i graduated hs in 2013 and for quite a few songs during my middle and highschool years the trumpet section was given cornet marked sheet music

  • @alfredolsson2942
    @alfredolsson2942 8 років тому +179

    Anyone else rember the tune from "Spider-Man 2" video game, when you delivered pizza?

  • @cherryannknott6713
    @cherryannknott6713 6 років тому +11

    Thank you so much - that was MOST informative! I found the cornet more mellow - a great-niece is learning the cornet, I shall now be less ignorant about it! She is actually playing rather well; aged 11, she makes a very pleasing sound; I hope she will continue with it

  • @jackspence1126
    @jackspence1126 4 роки тому +7

    The cornet, which has a conical bore (tubing gradually gets larger in diameter), while the trumpet has a cylindrical shape (same diameter until it reaches the bell portion). This changes the overtone series, which is more mellow in the cornet. It also makes the cornet a little easier to play with a little less resistance and easier to slur and play legato. The famous concert bands of the Sousa era used mainly cornets, as did the soloists such as the great Herbert L. Clark.

  • @Cantbuyathrill
    @Cantbuyathrill 9 років тому +7

    This back-to-back demo is the most illustrative, so far, I've seen. Including the flugelhorn (and the much-to-maligned, undeservedly so, piccolo trumpet) would be an even more comprehensive exposition.

  • @MR5er1
    @MR5er1 7 років тому +261

    Dues the cornet sound a bit softer? Or is that just my impression?

    • @brassflyer4284
      @brassflyer4284 7 років тому +22

      Mariangiongiangela's Tech Tips It has a darker tone

    • @Sephiewoth
      @Sephiewoth 7 років тому +58

      That's how I learned the difference between cornet and trumpet when I was first starting out. Corner is less of a slap in a face, more gentle.

    • @normancanter1
      @normancanter1 7 років тому +10

      The cornet characteristically had and has a softer tone. The first great cornets Courtois, French Bessons 1865 - 1900 had a softer tone that was compatible with vocal arias of operettas or operas. With the rise of the trumpet, after 1900-1930, cornet sounds were made to resemble that of the trumpet and in appearance too in some cases as with the Conn Constellation cornets.

    • @armynurseboy
      @armynurseboy 7 років тому +28

      Trumpets tend to sound "brighter" while cornets sound "darker".

    • @Darm0k
      @Darm0k 7 років тому +10

      Nikola Tesla cornets were considered solo instruments much more than trumpets in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. the virtuosic solo peices like Napoli and carnival of Venice were all written for cornet. it was probably jazz players who made trumpets into more soloistic instruments, although many early jazz players did play cornets. even Louis Armstrong early on his career.

  • @zvonkozunic
    @zvonkozunic 8 років тому +71

    they sound totally different. The Cornet is just so much more sultry.

    • @shawnready6567
      @shawnready6567 5 років тому +11

      Its also a $3,000 cornet vs a $280 trumpet

    • @adam3d851
      @adam3d851 5 років тому +6

      Trumpet is more classy and assertive. Cornet is small and shy

    • @halfchocolatecow3501
      @halfchocolatecow3501 5 років тому +5

      @Agnostic Monk Then you should stick to playing the drums

    • @mason11198
      @mason11198 4 роки тому +1

      @Werewolf O. London, Esq. Same. The difference is more or less negligible.

    • @ttyc1999
      @ttyc1999 4 роки тому +1

      Like a horn

  • @ryangriffiths7793
    @ryangriffiths7793 8 років тому +2

    I have been watching this channel for about two weeks now and I have to say I enjoy it very much. I am only 16 years old but I play about 5 instruments and I plan to either teach music, or make playing my career. With my main instrument being a tenor sax, my knowledge of instruments only lies with the realm of saxophones and some clarinet things, as I play bass clarinet and Bb. But this channel has really helped me to discover the amazing side of brass and how everything works from a Tuba or a Bass Trombone to a piccolo trumpet. So for that, thanks, Mr. Hamilton.

  • @Tmanaz480
    @Tmanaz480 6 років тому +10

    The different tone is magnified when you get a section of them playing together, as in a British style brass band or a proper concert band. (Most American school concert bands nowadays have trumpets where the cornets should be, since most students and amateurs don't usually own a cornet)

    • @tungsten8290
      @tungsten8290 2 роки тому +2

      Dont forget having a proper British cornet mouthpiece !

    • @Harmonic14
      @Harmonic14 Рік тому +1

      That's odd - when I was in school, they started everyone on cornet, and trumpets were pretty uncommon.

    • @mycobacteriem2540
      @mycobacteriem2540 3 місяці тому

      i think a lot of the us not using cornets, especially for school bands, has to do with budgets and ease of access. getting a proper even student cornet is probably out of the budget for most schools. i know my hs band, combined with the orchestra and choir, had the budget of a shoe string and a ham sandwhich. our only loaner trumpet looked like it could hold the worlds next pandemic within it. most kids coming into band were also started in trumpet anyway, at least when i was ins chool in the early 2000s. sad though, i really like the cornet's sound and would have switched tbh

  • @stephen.jenkins
    @stephen.jenkins 5 років тому +5

    I hear cornet played in some older jazz recordings. This is a good comparison. Thanks. My only suggestion would be to put the playing of the more mellow instrument before the brighter one, i.e., cornet before trumpet,. to make them easier to compare.

  • @AlexStalin-ph2do
    @AlexStalin-ph2do 5 років тому +151

    Pizza time

  • @spum789
    @spum789 3 роки тому +1

    I've seen a lot of Trent's videos. This by far is the best showing of his "Trumpet" skills.

  • @MrQwerty15ification
    @MrQwerty15ification 6 років тому +13

    Cornets do not only use triggers. I sell instruments and that is actually the first cornet i've seen with triggers. Also, trumpets can come with triggers

  • @glenhenning9261
    @glenhenning9261 9 років тому +4

    Great video! Played cornet in H.S., wish I still had it, didn't fully realize then what a beautiful sound it had...

  • @peterfeltham5612
    @peterfeltham5612 7 років тому +5

    Well demonstrated Trent,very informative.

  • @Kinopanorama1
    @Kinopanorama1 8 років тому +19

    Do each of these instruments sound with a Kiwi eccent?

  • @GaryBT
    @GaryBT 7 років тому +2

    I have had a trumpet with a first valve trigger instead of a saddle hook and I preferred it. I also currently own a cornet that does not have the shepherd's crook and has a third valve ring instead of a trigger. With the aesthetics of the trumpet and cornet there are no absolutes.

  • @Johnh1953
    @Johnh1953 9 років тому +2

    Very nice demonstration of tonal differences and mechanical differences. Thanks so much.

  • @perryparsons9960
    @perryparsons9960 8 років тому +2

    Very good video, especially the playing comparisons. This is a great primer for the basic differences, and is by and large accurate.
    However, there have been so many variations on the common designs, that the lines do blur. For example, perhaps the most glaring variation is the American standard trumpet, the Bach Strad. It is in fact, a long cornet with a trumpet mouthpiece receiver, as the tubing graduates throughout the instrument. Many people, myself included, have verified this with the use of calipers.
    Also to be noted is the Besson 10-10 trumpet, which has triggers on both the 1st and 3rd slides, perhaps as an effort to duplicate the playing mechanics of the Besson Sov, truly a hallmark cornet.
    At the other end of the spectrum are the American cornets, void of any shepherd crook, but still very much cornets. While perhaps a bit brighter than their British cousins, they still are conical instruments with a very specific cornet tonal quality.
    Once again, this video should be the point from which all others take off as far as variations between trumpet and cornet.

  • @Trolologram
    @Trolologram 8 років тому +13

    The manual/trigger tuning slide is NOT a key difference between the two. There are cornets with manual tuning slides and Trumpets with triggered tuning slides. I apologize if i come off as an ass, but I couldn't let this go. Very informational outside of that though.

    • @lennybuttz2162
      @lennybuttz2162 8 років тому +3

      He didn't say trumpets don't have trigger slides, he said he never saw one with a trigger slide.

    • @Microblitz
      @Microblitz 8 років тому

      I've posted an image of three, so now he has.

    • @glaslackjxe3447
      @glaslackjxe3447 6 років тому

      why don't trunpets typically have triggers? It seems a much more convenient means to an end in my opinion than manual slides

    • @bradyh1782
      @bradyh1782 6 років тому

      i'm guessing because it was how the trumpet was originally made and they didn't really bother to change it much, however some people/companies decided to take matters into their own hands.

    • @datGuy0309
      @datGuy0309 5 років тому

      The trumpet i just ordered has a trigger on the first valve slide, but a ring on the 3rd.

  • @greenflame8398
    @greenflame8398 5 років тому

    Fantastic breakdown of each horn! Your videos are very interesting and informative.

  • @gs3173
    @gs3173 2 роки тому

    Thanks for taking the time to make this. BRILLIANT

  • @graceheath8564
    @graceheath8564 5 років тому

    I’ve seen many trumpets with triggers for the tuning slides!!! I used to completely refuse to play anything other than a corner but I’m now completely in love with my trumpet. Both have such beautiful sounds.

  • @NiecieB65
    @NiecieB65 9 років тому +8

    I would have to play the cornet. My hands are small. This is a great comparison. The trumpet has a stronger sound. But, the cornet sounds good too. You are a very talented musician. Thanks for the video. You've helped me make an informed decision.

    • @Markus_Breuss
      @Markus_Breuss 8 років тому +1

      +Denise Borum the cornet is very lovely!

    • @Tmanaz480
      @Tmanaz480 6 років тому

      Cornet is also easier for kids to hold properly, as it's shorter overall and the valves are closer to the player.

    • @stansmith4054
      @stansmith4054 5 років тому

      Are you a cornet player? I ran into some of your posts from a couple of older random videos about cornets. Strange indeed or maybe it really is a small world.

  • @tablloyd5
    @tablloyd5 7 років тому +1

    Very good comparisons, however something should be noted: the cornet demonstrated (an excellent one btw) is a shepherds crook type. There is a natural mellowness in its sound compared to a cornet without the crook. Shepherd crooks are very popular with the Brits, while straight cornets are more popular in America I believe. The shepherds crook stands between the trumpet and the flugelhorn for that mellow sound, but the flugelhorn is larger, and bulkier say to use in the marching band.
    Those who want to play trumpet and flugelhorn, but cannot afford both will settle on the shepherd crook to satisfy both sounds more economically.
    A really fair comparison should be made with a straight cornet vs trumpet and the difference would be heard. The straight cornet is very handy because of its shorter size in marching, yet maintains that brilliant sound. The Salvation Army bands of Britain use them effectively, for example.

  • @shaunminahan9921
    @shaunminahan9921 8 років тому +2

    Bravo. Extremely informative demo. Onya Trent!

  • @harrelsontrumpets
    @harrelsontrumpets 8 років тому +21

    Technically, the cornet and trumpet are almost identical. Both are partially conical and cylindrical. There is a common misconception that the trumpet is cylindrical and the cornet is conical, but this is not true on modern 20th and 21st century instruments. The comparison of the bell flares is also inaccurate as the cornet bell is shorter, which explains why it appears to start tapering quickly at the base of the bell. The tapers on most cornets begin smaller than trumpet and end smaller than the trumpet, but flare faster. This fact combined with a deeper mouthpiece cup and wider backbore give the cornet a softer attack and tone than the trumpet.
    Nice video and discussion :)

    • @ironmandave3000
      @ironmandave3000 5 років тому

      Are trumpet mouthpiece and a cornet mouthpiece interchangeable?

    • @ianlee9647
      @ianlee9647 5 років тому +1

      @@ironmandave3000 They are not compatible. The mouthpiece for the cornet is shorter and narrower than the trumpet mouthpiece. The difference in size is comparable to the difference in size going from trumpet to trombone

    • @ironmandave3000
      @ironmandave3000 5 років тому +1

      @@ianlee9647 thank you I'm aware of that. I have played both. I was looking for someone else to help illustrate my point that trumpets and cornets are not the same. Doc Severinsen tells a great story how about trying to play cornet in a lead trumpet position. It doesn't work!

    • @ajw9975
      @ajw9975 5 років тому

      I think the biggest contributor to the difference in sound (among other things) is the mouthpiece. I play a cornet. I can't say for certain what the "average" trumpet vs. cornet mouthpiece cup is for either instrument. But I know the typical "stock" cornet mouthpiece that comes with the cornet is deeper than the stock mouthpiece you get with your trumpet. I find cornet mouthpieces can range from very deep/funnel (almost french horn-like) to basically a trumpet-type cup on a cornet shank (Bach). Not so sure if the same in reverse is the case for trumpet mouthpieces. I alternate between a Denis Wick 4B and a Bach 3D, depending on the music. When I use the Bach 3D, I'm basically indistinguishable from the trumpets in my section.

  • @trumpetman514
    @trumpetman514 8 років тому +2

    Thank you for posting. You are a fine musician. Nice double and triple tonguing.

  • @troutstudio
    @troutstudio 6 років тому

    Great stuff Trent. My son (plays trumpet) has been asked to join a Police Band, playing cornet. I found this very helpful. Kiwi's are the Southern Hemisphere musical race!

  • @valerioperri7237
    @valerioperri7237 8 років тому +2

    Hi...someone can tell me where i can download the air varie 'Napoli' pdf? Thanks

  • @antiussentiment
    @antiussentiment 7 років тому

    Man!! That was great.
    I had no idea a cornet was so much more mellow than a trumpet.. Makes sense when you look at how they are made.

  • @sci8
    @sci8 7 років тому +28

    Probably said a billion times, but many trumpets do have triggers.

  • @gracefoster4861
    @gracefoster4861 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much. I think of the coronet sound as mellower. Both sounds are beautiful, and I love knowing about their origins.

  • @brothergoodfoot
    @brothergoodfoot 9 років тому +2

    Thank you, so enlightening! Despite the close similarity, I can really hear the hint of the old-timey jazz tone in the cornet. I think it's really a shame that the cornet gets so overlooked by jazz players and rock/pop horn section guys now.

    • @spacejazz6272
      @spacejazz6272 8 років тому

      its definitely a softer, mellower sound

  • @Bone_Daddy13
    @Bone_Daddy13 2 роки тому +1

    I suddenly felt like I needed to deliver pizzas when the demo started

  • @dwevors
    @dwevors 7 років тому

    I have a Bach Strad made in the early 70's that has a first valve trigger. All my my friends Strads back them had saddles, but mine has a trigger. Another friend of mine from the 70's had a king silver flair with a first valve trigger also. FYI. Good video!

  • @TheGholiday
    @TheGholiday 9 років тому

    Thank you for an extremely informative video. I never realised the tonal differences in the cornet before and can understand why it's favoured for certain music pieces over the trumpet and vice versa.
    I'd be tempted to get myself a cornet just so I can be an all rounder as I also play trombone although the trumpet is my instrument of choice.

  • @lennybuttz2162
    @lennybuttz2162 8 років тому +5

    Thank you, that was very informative. Would you say the coronet is more elegant and subtle than a trumpet?

  • @harryoakley
    @harryoakley 4 роки тому

    Just one question. Which is easier to play - or, in other words, which wears out the embouchure the least?

  • @jambodjembe
    @jambodjembe 4 роки тому +1

    Many thanks.... I'm just sorting out my music departments brass and not being a brass player this really helped.

  • @KeenerThan
    @KeenerThan 8 років тому

    Good video and good demonstration.
    Thanks for putting it together!

  • @just1n442
    @just1n442 6 років тому +1

    The cornet have a rounder sound while the trumpet have a sharper sound .
    The trumpet also needs more air and the mouthpiece is slightly bigger while the cornet do not need as much air and has a smaller mouthpiec

  • @mrdonut1533
    @mrdonut1533 6 років тому +2

    The trumpet definitely has a brighter sound. But the cornet sounds better for soft playing music in my opinion

  • @DavidSolomons
    @DavidSolomons 7 років тому

    Many thanks Trent: as a composer I found this very useful :-)

  • @mootbooxle
    @mootbooxle 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent demo, great playing!

  • @johnbruner5820
    @johnbruner5820 5 років тому +1

    I have a verry weird horn that has charactorectistics of both trumpets and coronets can i get your professional opinion on identifying it?

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  5 років тому

      Sure - contact me on Facebook or email.

  • @s1914
    @s1914 5 років тому

    What would be the best mouthpiece to make the cornet sound a bit sharper, like a trumpet?

  • @barbarapissane
    @barbarapissane 9 років тому

    is that possible to play Haendel's "the trumpet shall sound" with a cornet?

  • @datapro007
    @datapro007 9 років тому +2

    Great video. I suspect the sound difference is more pronounced than the video indicates. The sampling rate on UA-cam video is a limiting factor.
    Thanks for posting!

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  9 років тому +2

      Thanks :) The sound quality is limited also by the microphone inside my phone...

  • @tchackett
    @tchackett 9 років тому

    I Just want to say awesome, very nice. I have recently started playing again (cornet) and I have a long way to go to get back in playing shape and style!

  • @dalekoenig3648
    @dalekoenig3648 4 роки тому

    Could you contrast in the same way the piston valve and rotary valve trumpet?

  • @trainroomgary
    @trainroomgary 8 років тому +1

    Very cool demo. I like the cornet.
    • Cheers from The Detroit & Mackinac Railway 🚂

  • @alexwatson7068
    @alexwatson7068 4 роки тому

    Would it give a greater difference in tone if you used a corner mouthpiece as well?

  • @smsmith714
    @smsmith714 8 років тому

    Is there a specific name for the black rubber rings you have on your first and third valve slides?

  • @LarryShone
    @LarryShone 7 років тому

    from this very well presented video I can tell that the cornet is warmer, the trumpet more harsh,brighter. It also seems that cornet is harder to play.

  • @ReneNikolaou
    @ReneNikolaou 8 років тому +1

    thanks for the demonstration, it was very helpful !

  • @BanjoPicker
    @BanjoPicker 5 років тому

    SO is the Coronet harder to play than Trumpet? Would the same lessons jive for both instruments?? I am trying to start out new and self teach. find more on Trumpet but really like the mellow Jazz sound of the Coronet.

  • @WillPG12
    @WillPG12 8 років тому

    Awesome video! Thanks for the demonstration

  • @patrickalexander5983
    @patrickalexander5983 6 років тому

    My cornet has one manual tuning slide and it is a ring?

  • @s1914
    @s1914 5 років тому

    Excellent vid Trent, really useful thank you

  • @kathrynpasteur8131
    @kathrynpasteur8131 7 років тому

    Wonderful explanation and demonstration.Thank you.

  • @leightonfraser1079
    @leightonfraser1079 8 років тому

    Great video. Like the comparison at
    the end. Thanks.

  • @jessstuart7495
    @jessstuart7495 Рік тому

    Is it easier to play fast on the trumpet compared with the cornet?

  • @girlfrancia2214
    @girlfrancia2214 4 роки тому

    what type of cornet mouthpiece are you using please

  • @FrederickAmadi
    @FrederickAmadi 4 роки тому

    solid explanation and demonstration. Good work

  • @FifthContinentMusic
    @FifthContinentMusic 7 років тому

    Interesting to note the comments re the comparisons. I usually add a Cornet to a composition for brass and percussion, particularly when I include Trumpets in C (as opposed to B-flat) in the orchestration. J Steven Lasher.

  • @mikesosa1146
    @mikesosa1146 8 років тому +1

    Thank you. Love your explanations. Appreciate it. Any chance you can discuss the mouthpiece differences? Thanks

  • @tedtedsen269
    @tedtedsen269 8 років тому

    how is the response and resistance VS trumpet and tuning issues for me the cornet looks like a mini flugelhorn i play the Bb trumpet

  • @MarkWick
    @MarkWick 6 років тому

    In high school I played a Conn Connstellation which had a trigger on the first valve tuning slide, and the common ring, which was adjustable, on the third valve tuning slide.

  • @user1684
    @user1684 9 років тому +1

    Great demonstration! Thank you very much,

  • @MultiMick666
    @MultiMick666 6 років тому

    Good video, thanks for uploading. What I want to know is, can I play these instruments left handed?

  • @DenysPaul
    @DenysPaul 8 років тому +2

    Thanks, Trent!

  • @takeurpills6024
    @takeurpills6024 5 років тому

    What was the song he was playing

  • @dessertstorm7476
    @dessertstorm7476 7 років тому +3

    when I was in a band I played trumpet and I think my friend was the only guy with a cornet, he had this t-shirt about how cornets were better than trumpets. Definitely a softer sound, in a proper brass band are they treated as interchangeable or are they used case by case?

    • @tylerpenberthy8523
      @tylerpenberthy8523 6 років тому

      No. Sometimes a piece will call for cornets and trumpets have their own parts. Currently, my band is playing/rehearsing a Leonard Bernstein piece that has three cornet parts and two trumpet parts. But for those of us that dont have cornets, we just use our trumpets

  • @windstorm1000
    @windstorm1000 9 років тому +16

    Loved the demo! Thanks--after watching, then, it seems to me that the cornet is mellower 'creamier' and the trumpet brassier, more brilliant. Am I right here? I like Berlioz and that French composer consistently employees 2 trumpets and 2 cornets in many of his compositions--is this to get the qualities mentioned above combined??

    • @milojohnson3057
      @milojohnson3057 7 років тому +1

      high brass player here, you are spot on! a conical tubing generally makes an instrument more mellow in sound. flugels have the most conical tubing out of cornets (1/3), trumpets (0/0, and flugels (2/3)

  • @atanuronur
    @atanuronur 3 роки тому

    Thank you very much for satisfying my curiosity. Bless heart, Master.

  • @mlflury5818
    @mlflury5818 8 років тому

    i have a cornet and im in band so into finding out how to play high low and middle sounds??? plus I have a cornet from Germany made by huttl in regd western Germany line 800 my dad is 76 and he had it second hand from a old man so I question how old it is ....

    • @user-fu9gh6sg2j
      @user-fu9gh6sg2j 8 років тому +1

      It seems that you should collect it instead of playing it ...

  • @aidanchristensen1581
    @aidanchristensen1581 4 роки тому +1

    The trumpets lead pipe is also conical. And my freind plays a trumpet with triggers. I think alot of the difference is less to do with the ammount of conical tubing, and more so the rate of expansion. Nowadays, modern trumpets aren't actually very different from cornets except for mouthpiece type and shape.

  • @RosssRoyce
    @RosssRoyce 7 років тому +9

    Thanks so much for nice comparison vid! My cornet has the fingering reversed to that of a trumpet in a mirror image.

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  7 років тому +4

      What? Really? Can you please send me some photos? trenthamiltonnz@gmail.com

    • @keithwhite4458
      @keithwhite4458 6 років тому

      I think you have a flugel

    • @RetiredBrass
      @RetiredBrass 3 роки тому

      @@keithwhite4458 That should be the same fingering as a regular trumpet as well.

    • @RetiredBrass
      @RetiredBrass 3 роки тому

      @@TrentHamilton I'm curious to know if this ever got a follow up? There are some rare early instruments that have so called "Catholic fingering", i.e. first and second valve reversed, but all three reversed is unheard of. Either way, the mentioned instrument, if true, is a rarity and deserves to be shared with the public.

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  3 роки тому

      @@RetiredBrass No, never had a reply that I can recall.

  • @bennyvr28
    @bennyvr28 6 років тому

    Awesome thank you.
    If I'm singing songs like Bing Crosby and Frank Sinatra, which should I have as an accompaniment?
    Cornet or Trumpet?

  • @davidofcoburg9279
    @davidofcoburg9279 6 років тому

    Thanks, I've always wondered what the differences were. I am a real cornet fancier.
    Downunda - Melbourne Australia

  • @derik2nicolai584
    @derik2nicolai584 9 років тому

    Many thanks, no big difference in sound. Your lips technique is so good!

  • @DrowseeGameplay
    @DrowseeGameplay 8 років тому

    Any tips on the cornet? I have both, and I seem to have a MUCH better sound on the trumpet. Is there a difference in tone production between the two that I am missing?

    • @wt4629
      @wt4629 8 років тому

      A trumpet's long lead pipe allows high volume high notes fly out of the instruments with ease vs. the cornet's curved lead pipe giving it a subdued tone. You could also have your embouchure messed up, the mouthpieces are different sizes.

    • @DrowseeGameplay
      @DrowseeGameplay 8 років тому

      The West Will Rise Again! Never thought of the mouth pieces or anything like what you said, thanks!

    • @perryparsons9960
      @perryparsons9960 8 років тому

      +The West Will Rise Again! Sorry, cannot agree with this. I play both trumpet and cornet as well as flugel, the trick is finding the correct mouthpiece that allows the airflow and resistance to be consistent between the three.

    • @wt4629
      @wt4629 8 років тому

      Perry Parsons I only play trumpet out of those three, but I was speculating on what the problem might be. Admittedly, I am an amateur.

  • @ZvikaDror
    @ZvikaDror 7 років тому

    Love the comparisson, actually I skipped to the playing differences quite fast, sorry for dropping the technicals :) Thanks for sharing!

  • @kennatiousc
    @kennatiousc 8 років тому +30

    the cornet seems to sound less bright

    • @AndyTrampke
      @AndyTrampke 7 років тому +8

      spiralacrobat I agree. The trumpet sounds much much more crisp.

    • @kennatiousc
      @kennatiousc 7 років тому +1

      thx

    • @gerhardhofer8058
      @gerhardhofer8058 7 років тому +8

      The cornet does have a darker sound. The conical lead pipe provides a darker tone that that of the cylindrical. (Same difference between baritone and euphonium)

  • @Markus_Breuss
    @Markus_Breuss 8 років тому +1

    good video,
    good explained!
    thanks

  • @icepick1939
    @icepick1939 8 років тому +2

    After listening to you the cornet doesn't sound as clean as the trumpet, but for some reason I like the cornet better. Thanks I am going to get a cornet.

  • @eligutierrez8789
    @eligutierrez8789 8 років тому

    Can you give me any tips on beginning on the cornet, I'm a trombone player trying to learn.

    • @gerhardhofer8058
      @gerhardhofer8058 7 років тому

      Switch to baritone or euphonium first so that you can get the fingerings down with the same pitches, then switch up from there.

  • @thomasbardsley9888
    @thomasbardsley9888 8 років тому +46

    PLEASE DO A MARCHING FRENCH HORN VS. MELLOPHONE!!!

    • @wt4629
      @wt4629 8 років тому +4

      Marching French horn barely exists

    • @thomasbardsley9888
      @thomasbardsley9888 8 років тому +3

      +The West Will Rise Again! you are correct about that, but at my school, there are still many of them and none of us know the differences between them. There are still quite a few out there since the mello is a newer instrument. I for one would like to see him do a video on the differences between the two.

    • @wt4629
      @wt4629 8 років тому

      Nova Extreme Are you talking about a dedicated French Horn for marching? Does it have a forward or backwards facing bell?

    • @thomasbardsley9888
      @thomasbardsley9888 8 років тому +1

      +The West Will Rise Again! front facing

    • @wt4629
      @wt4629 8 років тому

      Nova Extreme They're probably functionally the same thing

  • @robertwagner7867
    @robertwagner7867 Рік тому

    Which of the two are more in demand if you're wanting to preform?

  • @RussellIser108
    @RussellIser108 3 роки тому

    Great playing and very informative

  • @RickJones222
    @RickJones222 6 років тому

    Thank you! I never knew there was so much difference!

  • @ekrs33
    @ekrs33 7 років тому

    Thank you for this interesting video!

  • @Spedmuel
    @Spedmuel 5 років тому

    Are the fingerings the same

  • @thebluedevilfromheaven5256
    @thebluedevilfromheaven5256 8 років тому

    What's the name of the dip in the cornets bell pipe again

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  8 років тому +1

      Usually called a shepherd's crook.

    • @Microblitz
      @Microblitz 8 років тому

      There are two kinds of Cornet The shapards crook type which is sometimes referred to as a British cornet (as it is the style used by all British Brass bands) and the American Long Cornet as seen here :
      www.philparker.biz/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/8/181ml.jpg
      Which is subtely different in having a longer bell section and a closer resemblance to a Trumpet.
      There is a third instrument which has not been mentioned called the "Flumpet", which is a trumpet with a conical bore which has a much more cornet sound and is a hybrid between a Flugalhorn and trumpet.

  • @captainantilles9094
    @captainantilles9094 4 роки тому +5

    The tune is called “Funiculi Funicula”, A.K.A. The Spider-Man 2 Pizza theme.

  • @jammusique
    @jammusique 2 роки тому

    Great video!