It is all make believe. These are all actors playing a role i a warehouse made to look like a bunker, but the reality is there are no CD bunkers for government officials, other than the president and congress, and that has been deactivated decades ago. The IRS was the only agency with a bunker to keep the money flowing after a nuclear disaster. But it too is defunct.
It may give you some solace knowing younger generations will always have to face new horrifying technologies, but hopefully our understanding of the extent the damage these weapons can cause will prevent their actual use.
...they'll never see it comin' or linger in agony in some gruesome fallout scenario, or not. Could be biological, mabey everyone will just go sterile from staring at a meteor shower 🚿, could be mutated insects, ya never know or wanna worry about it too much.
@@AN_PVS-2 nahhh people never learn and we have now raised the dumbest generation of kids who think the most important thing in life is what gender they choose to be today.
After experiencing the deadly evacuation of Houston fleeing Hurricane Rita in 2005, i know cities aren’t ready for anything remotely like this. I think I might just stay and get blown up. What’s left to live for if nuclear war breaks out? A future of misery.
i grew up towards the end of the cold war. i asked my father about it once, and he said he wouldnt want to survive a nuclear war. the ppl who are killed by the blast are the lucky ones, and the survivors have nothing but pain, conflict, and hardship to look forward to.
I was born in 64. By the time I was old enough to know about bomb shelters, most people had given up on survival because there were just too many warheads at that point (about 50,000 total at peak, I think). As a kid I never worried about it, but I did think having a bomb shelter would be fun.
I share the man's sentiment. Life can be a superficial struggle as it is today but nothing like the aftermath of nuclear weapon use. The scarcity of food or worse the contamination of food and water. Likely everyone you know dead or dying and likely having increased risks of radiation sickness. No thanks, im fine going quickly. There are much better suited humans to rebuild "society" in the wake of nuclear war. I am not one of them.
good point. They made out the local governments as properly structured and organized. Even going as far as having plans on how to guide cars through a busy city center and how to follow flashing green traffic lights to get outside of the city. LOL What a joke, as soon as regular people learn there is a nuclear bomb on the way, and you only have 15-30 minutes left... it's going to be a colossal apocalyptic mess, even before the bomb goes off.
In my small Upstate NY village my Father took a radiation monitor training course in 1977 and was assigned to get a certain number of Village officials to the Shelter in the basement of the County Building built in 1962 in case of a nuclear attack. Years later, I worked in that same building and the shelter had showers, desks, phones and blackboards covered with the headings of various radiated areas in the County. Sleeping areas and a very modern kitchen. It was used by Emergency Management and was finally restructured in the mid 1990s.
Odd reading that as late as 1977 y'all up north were still taking all this seriously! I grew up in central Florida and after the Missile Crisis, We knew we were ALL GONERS in case of launch...
Was told this when 8 yrs old in 1963 If you are outside and we are under attack lay flat on ground face down if you have a jacket pull it over your head. Do not look at the flash. Every Saturday at 12 PM The alert sirens were cranked up for 1 minute. Twice every school year we had an evacuation drill everyone at my school who lived in my immediate neighborhood had a purple badge with our name on it every one in the purple group Gathered and walked from school to our homes the older kids making sure the younger kids got to there home. 1st through 6th grade this was the drill. I remember going to the local Safeway grocery store on a Sunday with my parents in 63 to look at underground bomb shelters that were on flat bed big rig trucks in the store parking lot. It was pretty scary especially after watching many of the above ground nuclear test blasts on TV. Even at 8 you know that you won’t live through something like that. It was always on my mind through out my life until I was 20 or so. In addition to that the stats of number of viet cong killed and American solders killed were on the evening news every night. The war I watched on tv when I was 8-9 years old in 63-64 was still going on when I was 17 in 1972! Damn. It was unbelievable. I seriously never thought I would live to see 25-30 and never have kids to see grow up. One good memory was the day it seemed like every kid in our part of town was at the local High School to take our sugar cube with the Polio vaccine on it and then stood in line for various other vaccinations in the arm and the then into the auditorium to watch Cinderella. Wow. This was Phoenix Arizona in the early 60’s. When we weren’t locking our doors and in the summer it was normal to fill my canteen and ride out to the desert with a friend and I had to be home before dinner at 5 I had a stay at home mom and we all ate at the table every day. It was very leave it to beaver’ish Seriously I never met stranger danger If I was ever thirsty we drank out of any facet or hose at any house we chose. Nobody ever said do much as boo to us That’s just what you did. I was frightened by the thought of the ‘bomb’ But was not afraid of anything in the world I lived in. In retrospect I should have feared the sun It was always out in Phoenix and hot Most days shirtless had enough sun for several life times. I’m thankful I never developed melanoma. Sun screen had not been invented then. Nor microwave ovens. And gas was leaded! And my fathers VW camper bus had no air conditioner. Honey bear was Sugar Bear And my sun tea had as much sugar as I saw fit That bowel was never empty. I’m rambling The MAD policy was crazy Mutually Assured Destruction That was it we had enough to blow up the planet several times over. So It caused the players to think real hard about pushing the button. Dr Strangelove was very much the real deal. No shit.
Definitely a lot has changed. BTW, both sunscreen and the microwave oven had been invented by then. Sunscreen was invented in the late 30s and microwave ovens were invented in the mid/late 1940s. Can’t remember the exact dates and too lazy to search. Did a report on sunscreen and cancer for health class many years ago and watched an episode of “How It’s Made” on microwaves. Funny how some facts stick with you, but I can’t find my keys and I have a 50/50 chance of remembering what I went to the store for.
I'm 3 years older and grew up in central Jersey. Everything you said I can relate to. We still had generals left from WWII that though about using nuclear weapons into the Viet Nam War.
@2:33 Cool to see the old Orpheum Theater that was demolished in the 70s here in Portland. Of course the "traffic jam" depicted is just a typical afternoon now.
My grampa build his own boat and planned to put in at Toledo and go north into the Great Lakes upward to Canada or out the Seaway. . The boat was always stocked with survival gear.
I lived through this throughout the 1980's. When I was 13, c. 1987, I remember being at my Comprehensive School (read: High School) talking with a guy I've known since Infant School, about what we would both do if, whilst at school, the sirens started whaling for the 'Four Minute Warning'. Depending on the size of the delivered warhead (and Soviet ICBM warheads had quite large blast yields at the time), given the distance from Heathrow Airport, a 5MT airburst would've wiped out the entire school; either burnt to death, or crushed under tons of rubble, if it hadn't caught on fire, first. Neither of us were told of any contingencies, as in which area(s) of the school was less vulnerable than others, and so forth. In fact, I doubt even if the teachers themselves knew ... But one thing us kids did know: that the living would envy the dead ... Even the Soviet populations knew. There is a grim joke of that era that can be translated as thus:- "In event of a nuclear war, you should cover yourself with a white sheet, and make your was slowly to the nearest cemetery ..." "But why slowly, Comrade ...?" "Because, my dear Comrade, you're not supposed to panic anyone else ..." What neither the Americans, nor the Soviets, truly failed to grasp, nor accept, was each was equally terrified of the other: Yuri Andropv, the Soviet Premier, truly believed that during the NATO exercise, _Able Archer '83_ , that it was based on a pre-emptive Soviet attack, first shutting of West Berlin, then pushing into West Germany, proper - an action which would only escalate to use of Tactical, then Strategic nuclear weapons, it also meant the three NATO nuclear forces (Britain, France, and the US) would use that same exercise as a prelude to a First Strike of their own. He actually raised their nuclear forces Alert Level - allegedly - to that of the equivalent to DEFCON 2; and sent all mobile missile launchers, with their C-n-C into 'the field', with each commander have their own authority to launch if all communications where to fail ... ... in the meanwhile, the Americans, knowing the Soviets were beginning to struggle, worried that they (the Russians) would reach the conclusion of 'better now, than be hit first', and had drawn up a First Strike plan themselves ... especially when their number of stockpiled warheads exceeded the Americans, in both number, and blast yields, in the megaton range ... For American readers, if you can, find 'Threads' a British drama about the outcome of a nuclear war. It was produced, and aired in 1984, so it looks/feels dated ... though so am I, as I was ~10 at the time ... ... but what hasn't dated is the utter fear, and sheer dread, throughout. According to American reviewers, it makes 'The Day After', also a television drama-film about nuclear war "almost like a Disney Movie, such was the optimistic view, rather than come as close to the grim, gritty, reality of 'Threads' ..." ...
I’m only 2 years younger than you, and I couldn’t describe the era better as a US youth. At the time, I think many expected the other outcome would have already happened by 2000.
Remember also that in 1983 we almost went to all out nuclear war because of a software bug in Soviet tracking systems. One Russian officer kept his head, figured it out, and I wasn't immolated in my third grade class.
as kids during this time, it was interesting and scary, but things change, and life moves on we all made it. today folks living around southern calif are finding old bomb shelters in their back yards from what we call the good old days now we have this mess we are living in such fun. take care of each other that's all we have in this world
I absolutely love these old training and information films, and both during my service and since retiring I must have seen thousands, and it is interesting to compare the differences in the facts as they were and are now known, not just about atomic/nuclear weapons but about civil defence or personal actions you can take in various situations, natural disasters, medical emergencies, road safety and so many other scenarios, but the way that the films, like this one, try to explain how safe or how atomic/nuclear weapons work are fantastic, fantastic in how they try to convince us all how we should NOT worry, well, I’m sorry but if it ever comes to the M.A.D scenario I for one will sit on my porch, gin and tonic (without the tonic) in hand (after about a bottle of gin in 15 minutes) and catch an instant sunshine bomb tan, followed, a fraction of a second later, free cremation and ashes scattered in the wind (nuclear wind that is), and why would I do it that way????, easy, life wouldn’t be worth living in a situation where the very air you breath can kill in a horrific and painful way, nothing would survive for long, not even cockroaches (contrary to popular belief). Even those living in their subterranean converted missile silos and special bunkers for the rich/powerful won’t guarantee survival, at least not for long. The last video about the safety of American airborne weapons “accidentally” detonating was probably very reassuring at the time, but what about other countries with “the bomb” back then and now? I don’t think that their regard for weapons safety was, or is, anything like as comprehensive as the allied/NATO nations, and that is scary, especially with the madman Putin in control (or not) of Russian weapons, and I believe he will use them if he thinks it would “turn the tide” of the war on Ukraine 🇺🇦, but it wouldn’t, Hitler believed that his “V” or “Vengeance” weapons would turn the tide, and look where that got him, and that is why I believe Putin would use them. Ok, rant over and soapbox put away, spleen vented and essay completed, thanks for sharing these old but comforting brainwashing titbits, very enjoyable and Halloween 🎃 inspired, you know when you have entered the twilight zone. Thanks again. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴🇺🇸🇺🇦
How very quaint to be back then in the 1950s before ICBMs and have hours before an attack (especially in a coastal city) instead of 5-30 minutes of either pure panic or no notice at all.
There won't be any notice. Nobody wants to take a chance it was an error. Happens time and time again. You'll see a very bright flash and then a lot of heat in your final second on earth.
A lot of this dialogue is unintentionally hilarious. I especially like how he advises, in the event of a bombing where you have no shelter, for you to lie down on the ground and cover yourself up! 😂😂😂 might as well wrap yourself in foil.
Well, if you value you life will will try something that only has a 0.001% chance of working. I had an uncle that was a young medical doctor in the Army and was a part of the "Occupation" of Japan. He saw some victims of the atomic bomb. One man was carrying some kind of slatted floor mat. He had a series of parallel burns on his back.
The fallout this statement would cause today: ua-cam.com/video/YktmD8_JC7E/v-deo.html. Oh my, didn't know they had cringe back then and that it was allowed in such productions :).
I was born in 1960, so this nuclear war stuff was an accepted and forgone conclusion. It was what it was, and by the 70's, I just wanted to live near a target zone so I could go quickly (I lived near LAX, and so I was good with that).
Just remember when you get to start worrying too much about the State of affairs in the world that you have no control over?.... Anyone can diev of anything tomorrow no matter what, even you. No one else has a better chance on this planet as soon as they're born!
@@Cracktaculus I was born with a congenital heart defect, had an experimental surgery at age 10 and a heart transplant in 2013. You don't need to lecture me on life and death. I am choosing not to watch for my mental health, even though I am a Patreon.
@@GeekFilter holy hell man, more power to ya, sounds like you've been through more than most. My hearts' one of those one gonna clog-up regardless of drugs, I have like 375 cholesterol!
Pointless. A Sub launched Nuke can take out coastal targets under 10 minutes. Russian Posidoen system would wipe out most of the coastal cities with a single device. What we need a diplomacy and not poke the bear in his backyard.
I remember having air raid drills in school, in the 60’s. BTW, I’d LOVE to have 1of those bomb shelter things with the bunks & all! (Like in the thumbnail)
Actually every labor day weekend in Parsippany NJ they have a giant 1950's/ oldies super festival called LEAD EAST. And every year besides doo wop and rockabilly music and a prom complete with vintage clothes, they have tons of civil defense/duck and cover materials from that golden era....
this day and age, in Portland, if they did a mass evacuation, when the citizens who left returned, it would for sure look like a nuke bomb had gone off.
@@jacksons1010 I don't watch Fox News... Or CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, C-SPAN, BBC, Al Jazeera.. 🤣 Portland on the other hand... My own two eyes provide PLENTY of news. Like the lovely little "gift" that was left next to our vehicle in the hotel parking lot... All because we set up a couple barricades downtown and the tree huggers couldn't make it to starbucks
@@jacksons1010 I haven't had a TV in 15 years, so no, none of that brainwashing stuff in my head. I've seen the big city life, and yeah, 3rd world blight. shame on the mess.
It's so interesting to think that at one point, this was classified as absolute top top secret. To achieve the information explained in this film, billions of dollars were spent, hundreds of thousands of hours of research, tests, and experiments. Government agents would protect this information with their lives. Even though now 70 years later we now know some of this info as false, but still it is very interesting. Thanks!
Having worked various BDOCs and disasters, if we reported our departments status as slow as some of these folks, it would be unacceptable. Cut out the excess words and info and give just what is needed. "Let's face it gentlemen" type comments are a waste of critical time.
I just thought of something while we're watching this film of what bureaucrats might be doing during a nuclear disaster? I want to see the film of all the people partying their ass off knowing they're going to die!!!
"On The Beach" (1959) about people in Australia waiting to be killed by radioactive contamination from a nuclear war in the Northern hemisphere. Some of them "party like hell" if I remember the picture correctly.
I know the topic is morbid but God it's refreshing to see when our government, state & federal actually DID STUFF. It does not feel like that anymore at all. Our country is capable of so much more potential & it definitely seems like they are letting a lot go to waste.
I was born in the 70's so the USSR was still a thing there was still a cold war not as intense as it wasn't those days for that generation but nevertheless still a scary time things could have went left at any time luckily it didn't thank goodness it led to the end of that kind of Communism at least for that moment and the Berlin Wall came down I remember Reagan meeting with Russian president discussing peace talks the current president dictator Putin is salty because the USSR disbanded and he was in Germany when the Berlin Wall came down pissed him off as a KGB officer so he's not saying that people are not saying it what I think was personally think it's just my opinion that he's trying to rebuild the USSR starting with Ukraine now hopefully something could be done about this madman I don't think he'll use any of Russia's nuclear stockpile against us but you never know so some ways this is like a part two of The Cold war in some sense becoming like that
County folk back then were better prepared for this if it happened. More people lived in rural areas and had well water, self canned foods. root cellars. 1/4 of homes still used outhouses.
I grew up during the cold war and watched the Iron Curtin finally fall and the collapse of the communist state. Even as the wall fell and individuals, groups, and governments poised to pound swords into ploughshares. Unfortunately human nature does not change and here we are; everything old is new again.
If this was a real scenario you would see nothing less than total violent chaos . And one calm person in the middle of town looking up and sticking the middle finger at a unavoidable fate. We all know someone who would be that person.
I would strip naked immediately and spread my arms and legs out and wait for the rush of the afterlife! I would no lie. Face the afterlife the same way I came into the world.
The confusion that seemed to be present during 9-11 made me very concerned…..an attack was from within was not of course considered. Still some agencies sent planes out over the Atlantic and went up unarmed looking for an external threat, we may never completely know what truly transpired that day, but with world events as they are we are understandably considering a situation that would not have been thought any longer possible?!
47:12... so there is no explosion... just don't breathe. If you breathe in the "harmless" alpha particles, you are as good as toast ol' boy. Now, those are the facts.
I'm watching cause I had a dream where a nuke detonatated of the east coast of florida in the daytime sinking a naval ship. In the dream I was astonished the people around me didn't seem to care. like it was normal. Anyway..... so long, farewell.
I'm 55 now and remember a big part of this in the 80s. Sorta ironic the first one was spose to have took place in the city I grew up in and still living in and around! I still say we all should get PTSD pay for having to live through this!😆😅🤣.....JK!!!!😉
32 minutes to clear the core in 1955. Today? Gooooood Luck. Not a chance in hell. Not to mention, I very much doubt they'd just sit quietly waiting to find out if the world was about to end. Freaking out would be natural.
Even back then it would never worked. Consider a working father with the only car. He would have to drive to pick up the kids at school, than go home & pick up his wife, perhaps his eldery parents before heading out of the city. Not everyone has a full tank either. It would have been all chaos & panic.
People look mature, responsible, articulate and sober. Quite different from 2022.
It is all make believe.
These are all actors playing a role i a warehouse made to look like a bunker, but the reality is there are no CD bunkers for government officials, other than the president and congress, and that has been deactivated decades ago.
The IRS was the only agency with a bunker to keep the money flowing after a nuclear disaster. But it too is defunct.
Yeah
Yea but also they were less comfortable on camera
That's ignorant naivety,😊
Shall we play a game? How about global thermonuclear war? A strange game. the only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?
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Sounds fun, Joshua ☺️
I lived through this. I had hoped my grandkids wouldn't have to.
No worries. With ICBMs, there’s no time for any of this theater.
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It may give you some solace knowing younger generations will always have to face new horrifying technologies, but hopefully our understanding of the extent the damage these weapons can cause will prevent their actual use.
...they'll never see it comin' or linger in agony in some gruesome fallout scenario, or not. Could be biological, mabey everyone will just go sterile from staring at a meteor shower 🚿, could be mutated insects, ya never know or wanna worry about it too much.
@@AN_PVS-2 nahhh people never learn and we have now raised the dumbest generation of kids who think the most important thing in life is what gender they choose to be today.
I just found this channel and it's oddly soothing and educational even though the subject matter is quite morbid.
These, are the facts.
After experiencing the deadly evacuation of Houston fleeing Hurricane Rita in 2005, i know cities aren’t ready for anything remotely like this. I think I might just stay and get blown up. What’s left to live for if nuclear war breaks out? A future of misery.
i grew up towards the end of the cold war. i asked my father about it once, and he said he wouldnt want to survive a nuclear war. the ppl who are killed by the blast are the lucky ones, and the survivors have nothing but pain, conflict, and hardship to look forward to.
I tell people the same thing.
I was born in 64. By the time I was old enough to know about bomb shelters, most people had given up on survival because there were just too many warheads at that point (about 50,000 total at peak, I think). As a kid I never worried about it, but I did think having a bomb shelter would be fun.
Death over pain, conflict, and hardship? Wow. Doomed before the button was pressed.
I share the man's sentiment.
Life can be a superficial struggle as it is today but nothing like the aftermath of nuclear weapon use.
The scarcity of food or worse the contamination of food and water. Likely everyone you know dead or dying and likely having increased risks of radiation sickness.
No thanks, im fine going quickly. There are much better suited humans to rebuild "society" in the wake of nuclear war.
I am not one of them.
How many times have scientists, politicians, and television lied to us? You cowards have given up before fight even started.
The good old times when we used to dump nuclear waste at sea.
Good times
yup.
There's nothing like lying flat on the ground and pulling your your shirt collar
to survive a 10 Megaton nuke.
That should work.
Ironically, when Mount St Helens erupted in Washington State, even after weeks of warning, confusion reigned. Makes me feel real confident…
good point. They made out the local governments as properly structured and organized. Even going as far as having plans on how to guide cars through a busy city center and how to follow flashing green traffic lights to get outside of the city. LOL What a joke, as soon as regular people learn there is a nuclear bomb on the way, and you only have 15-30 minutes left... it's going to be a colossal apocalyptic mess, even before the bomb goes off.
In my small Upstate NY village my Father took a radiation monitor training course in 1977 and was assigned to get a certain number of Village officials to the Shelter in the basement of the County Building built in 1962 in case of a nuclear attack. Years later, I worked in that same building and the shelter had showers, desks, phones and blackboards covered with the headings of various radiated areas in the County. Sleeping areas and a very modern kitchen. It was used by Emergency Management and was finally restructured in the mid 1990s.
Odd reading that as late as 1977 y'all up north were still taking all this seriously! I grew up in central Florida and after the Missile Crisis, We knew we were ALL GONERS in case of launch...
Was told this when 8 yrs old in 1963
If you are outside and we are under attack lay flat on ground face down if you have a jacket pull it over your head.
Do not look at the flash.
Every Saturday at 12 PM
The alert sirens were cranked up for 1 minute.
Twice every school year we had an evacuation drill everyone at my school who lived in my immediate neighborhood had a purple badge with our name on it every one in the purple group
Gathered and walked from school to our homes the older kids making sure the younger kids got to there home.
1st through 6th grade this was the drill.
I remember going to the local Safeway grocery store on a Sunday with my parents in 63 to look at underground bomb shelters that were on flat bed big rig trucks in the store parking lot.
It was pretty scary especially after watching many of the above ground nuclear test blasts on TV.
Even at 8 you know that you won’t live through something like that.
It was always on my mind through out my life until I was
20 or so.
In addition to that the stats of number of viet cong killed and American solders killed were on the evening news every night.
The war I watched on tv when I was 8-9 years old in 63-64 was still going on when I was 17 in 1972!
Damn.
It was unbelievable.
I seriously never thought I would live to see 25-30 and never have kids to see grow up.
One good memory was the day it seemed like every kid in our part of town was at the local High School to take our sugar cube with the Polio vaccine on it and then stood in line for various other vaccinations in the arm and the then into the auditorium to watch Cinderella.
Wow.
This was Phoenix Arizona in the early 60’s.
When we weren’t locking our doors and in the summer it was normal to fill my canteen and ride out to the desert with a friend and I had to be home before dinner at 5
I had a stay at home mom and we all ate at the table every day.
It was very leave it to beaver’ish
Seriously
I never met stranger danger
If I was ever thirsty we drank out of any facet or hose at any house we chose.
Nobody ever said do much as boo to us
That’s just what you did.
I was frightened by the thought of the ‘bomb’
But was not afraid of anything in the world I lived in.
In retrospect I should have feared the sun
It was always out in Phoenix and hot
Most days shirtless had enough sun for several life times.
I’m thankful I never developed melanoma.
Sun screen had not been invented then.
Nor microwave ovens.
And gas was leaded!
And my fathers VW camper bus had no air conditioner.
Honey bear was Sugar Bear
And my sun tea had as much sugar as I saw fit
That bowel was never empty.
I’m rambling
The MAD policy was crazy
Mutually Assured Destruction
That was it we had enough to blow up the planet several times over. So It caused the
players to think real hard
about pushing the button.
Dr Strangelove was very much the real deal. No shit.
Definitely a lot has changed. BTW, both sunscreen and the microwave oven had been invented by then. Sunscreen was invented in the late 30s and microwave ovens were invented in the mid/late 1940s. Can’t remember the exact dates and too lazy to search. Did a report on sunscreen and cancer for health class many years ago and watched an episode of “How It’s Made” on microwaves. Funny how some facts stick with you, but I can’t find my keys and I have a 50/50 chance of remembering what I went to the store for.
I'm 3 years older and grew up in central Jersey. Everything you said I can relate to. We still had generals left from WWII that though about using nuclear weapons into the Viet Nam War.
#based
Mystery Science Theater 3000 would have had a field day with these films!
That is exactly what I was just thinking.
I was on a navy base in charleston south carolina in 1962 during the blockade my dad was a sailor on one of those ships.
@2:33 Cool to see the old Orpheum Theater that was demolished in the 70s here in Portland. Of course the "traffic jam" depicted is just a typical afternoon now.
My grampa build his own boat and planned to put in at Toledo and go north into the Great Lakes upward to Canada or out the Seaway. . The boat was always stocked with survival gear.
And the blind were freaking out because they didn't get to read the "There is not an attack coming" on the TV screen.
Yeahhhhh like that's gonna be orderly. You bet mass chaos would occur. This is a best case scenario.
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I lived through this throughout the 1980's. When I was 13, c. 1987, I remember being at my Comprehensive School (read: High School) talking with a guy I've known since Infant School, about what we would both do if, whilst at school, the sirens started whaling for the 'Four Minute Warning'. Depending on the size of the delivered warhead (and Soviet ICBM warheads had quite large blast yields at the time), given the distance from Heathrow Airport, a 5MT airburst would've wiped out the entire school; either burnt to death, or crushed under tons of rubble, if it hadn't caught on fire, first. Neither of us were told of any contingencies, as in which area(s) of the school was less vulnerable than others, and so forth. In fact, I doubt even if the teachers themselves knew ...
But one thing us kids did know: that the living would envy the dead ...
Even the Soviet populations knew. There is a grim joke of that era that can be translated as thus:-
"In event of a nuclear war, you should cover yourself with a white sheet, and make your was slowly to the nearest cemetery ..."
"But why slowly, Comrade ...?"
"Because, my dear Comrade, you're not supposed to panic anyone else ..."
What neither the Americans, nor the Soviets, truly failed to grasp, nor accept, was each was equally terrified of the other: Yuri Andropv, the Soviet Premier, truly believed that during the NATO exercise, _Able Archer '83_ , that it was based on a pre-emptive Soviet attack, first shutting of West Berlin, then pushing into West Germany, proper - an action which would only escalate to use of Tactical, then Strategic nuclear weapons, it also meant the three NATO nuclear forces (Britain, France, and the US) would use that same exercise as a prelude to a First Strike of their own. He actually raised their nuclear forces Alert Level - allegedly - to that of the equivalent to DEFCON 2; and sent all mobile missile launchers, with their C-n-C into 'the field', with each commander have their own authority to launch if all communications where to fail ...
... in the meanwhile, the Americans, knowing the Soviets were beginning to struggle, worried that they (the Russians) would reach the conclusion of 'better now, than be hit first', and had drawn up a First Strike plan themselves ... especially when their number of stockpiled warheads exceeded the Americans, in both number, and blast yields, in the megaton range ...
For American readers, if you can, find 'Threads' a British drama about the outcome of a nuclear war. It was produced, and aired in 1984, so it looks/feels dated ... though so am I, as I was ~10 at the time ...
... but what hasn't dated is the utter fear, and sheer dread, throughout. According to American reviewers, it makes 'The Day After', also a television drama-film about nuclear war "almost like a Disney Movie, such was the optimistic view, rather than come as close to the grim, gritty, reality of 'Threads' ..." ...
I’m only 2 years younger than you, and I couldn’t describe the era better as a US youth. At the time, I think many expected the other outcome would have already happened by 2000.
Remember also that in 1983 we almost went to all out nuclear war because of a software bug in Soviet tracking systems. One Russian officer kept his head, figured it out, and I wasn't immolated in my third grade class.
Nuclear blast! Rush into the area fellas and get the power back on!
What radiation?
Geez.
as kids during this time, it was interesting and scary, but things change, and life moves on we all made it. today folks living around southern calif are finding old bomb shelters in their back yards from what we call the good old days now we have this mess we are living in such fun. take care of each other that's all we have in this world
The voice of Alexander Scourby was such a mainstay of these time capsule docs.
0:58. That's Mayor Terry Schrunk of Portland. He was Mayor from 1957 to 1973 (while I was growing up there).
Life under the hammer, welcome young ones to our nightmare.
Under the Sword**
(of Damocles)
with all this going on, why'd you even bother with silly racial discrimination? what a waste of time and energy
@@jackasslawyer wut
I absolutely love these old training and information films, and both during my service and since retiring I must have seen thousands, and it is interesting to compare the differences in the facts as they were and are now known, not just about atomic/nuclear weapons but about civil defence or personal actions you can take in various situations, natural disasters, medical emergencies, road safety and so many other scenarios, but the way that the films, like this one, try to explain how safe or how atomic/nuclear weapons work are fantastic, fantastic in how they try to convince us all how we should NOT worry, well, I’m sorry but if it ever comes to the M.A.D scenario I for one will sit on my porch, gin and tonic (without the tonic) in hand (after about a bottle of gin in 15 minutes) and catch an instant sunshine bomb tan, followed, a fraction of a second later, free cremation and ashes scattered in the wind (nuclear wind that is), and why would I do it that way????, easy, life wouldn’t be worth living in a situation where the very air you breath can kill in a horrific and painful way, nothing would survive for long, not even cockroaches (contrary to popular belief). Even those living in their subterranean converted missile silos and special bunkers for the rich/powerful won’t guarantee survival, at least not for long. The last video about the safety of American airborne weapons “accidentally” detonating was probably very reassuring at the time, but what about other countries with “the bomb” back then and now? I don’t think that their regard for weapons safety was, or is, anything like as comprehensive as the allied/NATO nations, and that is scary, especially with the madman Putin in control (or not) of Russian weapons, and I believe he will use them if he thinks it would “turn the tide” of the war on Ukraine 🇺🇦, but it wouldn’t, Hitler believed that his “V” or “Vengeance” weapons would turn the tide, and look where that got him, and that is why I believe Putin would use them.
Ok, rant over and soapbox put away, spleen vented and essay completed, thanks for sharing these old but comforting brainwashing titbits, very enjoyable and Halloween 🎃 inspired, you know when you have entered the twilight zone. Thanks again. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴🇺🇸🇺🇦
Wow. In light of late events.. Now I will never sleep. Thanks. LOLZ
Nightmares of a nuclear angel
Before ICBMs.
The first film, with Glenn Ford is A Day Called X.
Evacuation? That's a joke. What do you think you're going to evacuate to?
"I won't kid you about the A-bomb. I've seen what it can do... it's deadly. ...It's like a woman."
HAHAHAHAHAHA....
But hey, he's 100% right....
How very quaint to be back then in the 1950s before ICBMs and have hours before an attack (especially in a coastal city) instead of 5-30 minutes of either pure panic or no notice at all.
There won't be any notice. Nobody wants to take a chance it was an error. Happens time and time again. You'll see a very bright flash and then a lot of heat in your final second on earth.
@@ChatGPT1111
yes... no inbound air attack alert
no point in sending humanity insane before the flash
May sense and sensibility lead and prevail
A lot of this dialogue is unintentionally hilarious. I especially like how he advises, in the event of a bombing where you have no shelter, for you to lie down on the ground and cover yourself up! 😂😂😂 might as well wrap yourself in foil.
Well, if you value you life will will try something that only has a 0.001% chance of working. I had an uncle that was a young medical doctor in the Army and was a part of the "Occupation" of Japan. He saw some victims of the atomic bomb. One man was carrying some kind of slatted floor mat. He had a series of parallel burns on his back.
Well at least that way you'll be browned equally all over.
The fallout this statement would cause today: ua-cam.com/video/YktmD8_JC7E/v-deo.html. Oh my, didn't know they had cringe back then and that it was allowed in such productions :).
An atomic bomb is like a woman; just try getting away with that one today.
In fairness, the A-bombs weren't as powerful as today's bombs.
I was born in 1960, so this nuclear war stuff was an accepted and forgone conclusion. It was what it was, and by the 70's, I just wanted to live near a target zone so I could go quickly (I lived near LAX, and so I was good with that).
Given the state of the world today… I’m gonna let myself skip this one!
Just remember when you get to start worrying too much about the State of affairs in the world that you have no control over?.... Anyone can diev of anything tomorrow no matter what, even you. No one else has a better chance on this planet as soon as they're born!
@@Cracktaculus I was born with a congenital heart defect, had an experimental surgery at age 10 and a heart transplant in 2013. You don't need to lecture me on life and death. I am choosing not to watch for my mental health, even though I am a Patreon.
@@GeekFilter holy hell man, more power to ya, sounds like you've been through more than most. My hearts' one of those one gonna clog-up regardless of drugs, I have like 375 cholesterol!
@@GeekFilter Dam, those are some titanium balls.
I could never handle that. ✌️
@@GeekFilter you are a soldier of god brotha
That was a lie when he said after the nuclear blast 2 minits later you can walk to the blast site to do work helping people due your military duties.
@Jason Haire the government knew about the dangers after human tests. (Operation Que-they had an outdoor BBQ in the fallout area after an atomic test)
Ok seeing that little lone dog run down the sidewalk broke my heart.
Seems like we need to start doing these drills again everywhere
Because the US is a warmongering nation full of thugs.
Pointless. A Sub launched Nuke can take out coastal targets under 10 minutes. Russian Posidoen system would wipe out most of the coastal cities with a single device. What we need a diplomacy and not poke the bear in his backyard.
there's absolutely no point.
Love all the Poodle Skirts
Wow this is kind of educational kinda scary but the way it's been Described is kinda relaxing
I remember having air raid drills in school, in the 60’s. BTW, I’d LOVE to have 1of those bomb shelter things with the bunks & all! (Like in the thumbnail)
What do you do in case of fallout?
Put it back in and take shorter strokes....
That's what she said...
It works better if you put the sheep on a stump.
Can you imagine the panic and meltdowns that would occur if they tried a nuclear bomb drill like that in modern day Portland?
Actually every labor day weekend in Parsippany NJ they have a giant 1950's/
oldies super festival called LEAD EAST. And every year
besides doo wop and rockabilly music and a prom
complete with vintage clothes, they have tons of civil defense/duck and cover
materials from that golden era....
this day and age, in Portland, if they did a mass evacuation, when the citizens who left returned, it would for sure look like a nuke bomb had gone off.
I was there for Operation Top Off in 2010... It was a SIMULATED nuclear attack, and after 3 days it might as well have been real...
Tell me you watch FoxNews without _telling_ me you watch FoxNews. 😂
@@jacksons1010 I don't watch Fox News... Or CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, C-SPAN, BBC, Al Jazeera.. 🤣
Portland on the other hand... My own two eyes provide PLENTY of news. Like the lovely little "gift" that was left next to our vehicle in the hotel parking lot... All because we set up a couple barricades downtown and the tree huggers couldn't make it to starbucks
@@nunyabidness674 Take a breath, gramps.
@@jacksons1010 I haven't had a TV in 15 years, so no, none of that brainwashing stuff in my head. I've seen the big city life, and yeah, 3rd world blight. shame on the mess.
Just where did they intend evacuating everyone too? The next city that may have been the intended target?
Two minutes after the blast it is safe to enter the area under the blast! That's ok, I will stay far far away
Timely 😥
It's so interesting to think that at one point, this was classified as absolute top top secret. To achieve the information explained in this film, billions of dollars were spent, hundreds of thousands of hours of research, tests, and experiments. Government agents would protect this information with their lives. Even though now 70 years later we now know some of this info as false, but still it is very interesting.
Thanks!
Having worked various BDOCs and disasters, if we reported our departments status as slow as some of these folks, it would be unacceptable. Cut out the excess words and info and give just what is needed. "Let's face it gentlemen" type comments are a waste of critical time.
I just thought of something while we're watching this film of what bureaucrats might be doing during a nuclear disaster? I want to see the film of all the people partying their ass off knowing they're going to die!!!
Drugs and Hookers...
See "Raven Rock" UA-cam video.
"On The Beach" (1959) about people in Australia waiting to be killed by radioactive contamination from a nuclear war in the Northern hemisphere. Some of them "party like hell" if I remember the picture correctly.
♪♫♬ Duck....and cover! ♪♫♬
Greg Stillson: The missiles are flying! Hallelujah!
I know the topic is morbid but God it's refreshing to see when our government, state & federal actually DID STUFF. It does not feel like that anymore at all. Our country is capable of so much more potential & it definitely seems like they are letting a lot go to waste.
My poor mom is still a slave of the GOV. I keep tryin to tell her the GOV is fulla shyt. Poor thing she still lives in 1961. I love her..
16:58 "It's... like a woman!" XD
why there are no more civil defense excercises anymore? Is it bc they became useless since the ICBMs can get to us before any evacuations?
@10:00 is that what you’re wearing to the apocalypse ?
The dress looks like it will make a nice picnic blanket! LOL
Worked for me! Put me into a deep, trance-like state of profound slumber.
Say what you will about that ;)
I was born in the 70's so the USSR was still a thing there was still a cold war not as intense as it wasn't those days for that generation but nevertheless still a scary time things could have went left at any time luckily it didn't thank goodness it led to the end of that kind of Communism at least for that moment and the Berlin Wall came down I remember Reagan meeting with Russian president discussing peace talks the current president dictator Putin is salty because the USSR disbanded and he was in Germany when the Berlin Wall came down pissed him off as a KGB officer so he's not saying that people are not saying it what I think was personally think it's just my opinion that he's trying to rebuild the USSR starting with Ukraine now hopefully something could be done about this madman I don't think he'll use any of Russia's nuclear stockpile against us but you never know so some ways this is like a part two of The Cold war in some sense becoming like that
an egg...an atomic...egg
Ever see the movie “Threads”? That’s how this would end.
this vid is gonna blow up im sure 4.398 views right now...
"Like an ice cube in a hot toddy............." LOL!!!!!
Mmmmm, tangible!
Love it!
County folk back then were better prepared for this if it happened. More people lived in rural areas and had well water, self canned foods. root cellars. 1/4 of homes still used outhouses.
50:08 He puts the "valuable material" in his pocket. (edit) THESE ARE THE FACTS.
7:36 talk about not being able to see the forest fire for the tree fire.
Sounds like a protection racket.
LOL I don't think you'll have space to be "alone" in that small confinement with that amount of people. :-D
It would have been weird if an earthquake had happened.
Love this!
Ahhhh we knew the bad guys during the Cold War. Happy times.
I grew up during the cold war and watched the Iron Curtin finally fall and the collapse of the communist state. Even as the wall fell and individuals, groups, and governments poised to pound swords into ploughshares. Unfortunately human nature does not change and here we are; everything old is new again.
And what's funny is now conservatives support Russia and China 🤷🤦🤣
Targeting Portlandgrad, Seattle, San Fecesco, LA, NYC, Boston, Washington DC, Tampa , Philly, and Chicago.
If this was a real scenario you would see nothing less than total violent chaos . And one calm person in the middle of town looking up and sticking the middle finger at a unavoidable fate. We all know someone who would be that person.
Na people would debate whether the mushroom cloud outside their window was real on r/holyshitamushroomcloud
I would strip naked immediately and spread my arms and legs out and wait for the rush of the afterlife! I would no lie. Face the afterlife the same way I came into the world.
@@calsavestheworld 💀
I'm the guy looking into the sky every night and begging the space aliens to take me away, so...
I'm thinking Barney Fife. Discuss amongst yourselves people, all responses welcome.....
This all based on the unlikely premise that the "authorities" will tell you the truth about the dangers you are really in......
I’m glad my Government has a plan to help.
And don't tell your health care insurance!
The confusion that seemed to be present during 9-11 made me very concerned…..an attack was from within was not of course considered. Still some agencies sent planes out over the Atlantic and went up unarmed looking for an external threat, we may never completely know what truly transpired that day, but with world events as they are we are understandably considering a situation that would not have been thought any longer possible?!
17:46 Well suppose I ain't one for supposin', mister?!
47:12... so there is no explosion... just don't breathe. If you breathe in the "harmless" alpha particles, you are as good as toast ol' boy. Now, those are the facts.
Good info, really
@16:56 *Based*
I'm watching cause I had a dream where a nuke detonatated of the east coast of florida in the daytime sinking a naval ship. In the dream I was astonished the people around me didn't seem to care. like it was normal. Anyway..... so long, farewell.
I'm 55 now and remember a big part of this in the 80s. Sorta ironic the first one was spose to have took place in the city I grew up in and still living in and around! I still say we all should get PTSD pay for having to live through this!😆😅🤣.....JK!!!!😉
We'll, it's Portland, we've wanted that place gone for years. What's the down side, boy??
Portland lol that is one way of cleaning up that dumpster fire
The half-life of Uranium 235 is 700 million years, so pack away enough food and water!
Be fair enough away that you can look up and say "WTF was THAT??"
Everything old is new again!
"your skin still fits...."
Sleep well kids.
9:25 Alex Van Halen gives his report.
28:48 a handkerchief should be a good enough filter… yeah sure…
Nightmares of the Nuclear Age! The Nuclear age is still here more dangerous than in the 1950s.
Is there an attack tho?
32 minutes to clear the core in 1955. Today? Gooooood Luck. Not a chance in hell. Not to mention, I very much doubt they'd just sit quietly waiting to find out if the world was about to end. Freaking out would be natural.
Even back then it would never worked. Consider a working father with the only car. He would have to drive to pick up the kids at school, than go home & pick up his wife, perhaps his eldery parents before heading out of the city. Not everyone has a full tank either. It would have been all chaos & panic.
All you need is a really old lead refrigerator like indy Jones did
The real dangers are the politicians.