Starting to Develop our 20acre property on our Northeastern Nevada Desert Homestead.

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  • Опубліковано 3 лип 2022
  • Come along as we cut a road and place our trailer on our raw 20acre property. We will be posting videos as we develop our land.

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  • @hildebertocarreiro9232
    @hildebertocarreiro9232 Місяць тому +4

    Plant trees for shade from sun, wind ,snow,

  • @Blend-24
    @Blend-24 Рік тому +33

    I started my little 80 acres homestead about 24-25 yrs ago. Some of the things I failed to research is WATER how deep and how much? POWER how far? Is SOLAR feasible? We ended up going solar for about 9 yrs. What I found about solar: heat and batteries do not mix well. If you experience freezing temps you know batteries don’t like that, well they hate heat too. We have many days of 100 F (38c) plus here as well as a couple days a year freezing temps. The heat drains and shortens the life of batteries. Every couple yrs I would replace the entire battery bank at very high costs. I ran two inverters because one was not enough. We also learned about PROPANE refrigerators! They chill to about 40f below ambient temperature so if it was 110f guess what. Off grid was not planned out on my part. We hauled our water from a county well 25 miles away. Transport tanks as well as storage tanks are expensive as well as stress wear trucks. The two most loved and expensive improvements we did to our place is ran POWER and drilled a 700ft deep well.

    • @keithjackson9976
      @keithjackson9976 Рік тому +1

      Wouldn’t the battery be indoor temp? If you’re running A/C shouldn’t it be something like 68 degrees F?

    • @alvisjenkins1305
      @alvisjenkins1305 6 місяців тому

      O wonder why you would not have thought to use wind power to generate AC to DC using an automotive alternator ? In the desert you will pretty much of the time have some good winds.

    • @MoroMoro1
      @MoroMoro1 6 місяців тому +1

      700ft...wow i just know that cost a pretty penny

    • @WorstCowboyEver
      @WorstCowboyEver 5 місяців тому

      @blend-23 what part of Nevada where you in?

    • @alphaomega6
      @alphaomega6 2 місяці тому

      You need to put your batteries where your mini splits is to regulate the temperature. I wouldn’t let my lithium freeze up during winter and over heat during summer.

  • @demetreusd.robysr.8446
    @demetreusd.robysr.8446 5 місяців тому +4

    Right behind you bro. I’ve been watching land in Nevada for years…. I plan to buy this year

  • @Christopher-be1qc
    @Christopher-be1qc Місяць тому +1

    Oh yeah! GOD bless

  • @GeographicallyFree
    @GeographicallyFree Рік тому +9

    I love the smell of sagebrush in the air when it rains! Looking forward to following your journey.

  • @jcandoo
    @jcandoo Рік тому +15

    I am your neighbor !
    We have 10 acres right next to you.
    It was passed down to us, and it was purchased in the 60’s.
    We always wanted to travel from the Midwest to visit. If we do will stop by and say hey!

  • @pamelaroberts6209
    @pamelaroberts6209 Рік тому +16

    Good luck with your project. I have spent lots of time and continue to spend lots of time in Eastern Nevada (Eureka County) and love it. I just came back from 3 weeks there and can comment on the heavy winds that will be blowing your way, so make sure your carport tent is latched down double good. Your are in for the some beautiful sunrises and especially sunsets in a Nevada sky. Wishing you the best .🤙

    • @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037
      @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037  Рік тому +1

      Thank you. Take care ✌️

    • @MadmanGolf007
      @MadmanGolf007 Рік тому +1

      I brought 20 acers in the same area two months ago the Lady back out on and move out I'm moving next month I be lying if I didn't say I'm nervous about the move I will be staying in a camper, nervous but looking forward to it...Any advice for me...She was on board at first but family and friends talked her out of it.

  • @stevej7139
    @stevej7139 Рік тому +11

    I've built a couple houses on raw property that I lived on while building and one piece of equipment that was worth it's weight in gold was a basic Skip loader tractor with a bucket on front and a scraper/claw on the back . If you need to do ditches for water rent a ditch witch but buy a skip loader so it's always there .

    • @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037
      @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037  Рік тому +1

      Yah exactly, great idea we are actually looking into getting one top make life a lot easier for sure. Thanks for your comment. ✌️

  • @Mortacos
    @Mortacos Рік тому +4

    Beautiful country! Good luck and keep us updated!

  • @kccarrtheoregonhillbillyhi4803

    That is a fantastic piece of property

  • @commonman7776
    @commonman7776 2 роки тому

    i enjoyed this video thumbs up

  • @DrLee-Noz
    @DrLee-Noz 2 роки тому

    Wishing you great success. Keep posting those videos and let us enjoy your hard work and progress!

  • @user-xb6no3sm3g
    @user-xb6no3sm3g 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm so happy for you , I purchased raw land as well east of elko . I will begin the same journey my friend ...breath taking views

    • @torianotv7864
      @torianotv7864 6 місяців тому

      how much was it ? how’s the permit process out there is it is lenient as Arizona or is it worse than more expensive

  • @tycovert3197
    @tycovert3197 2 роки тому

    Good Luck. Lots of HARD work ahead.

  • @daveneil3963
    @daveneil3963 Рік тому +2

    I'm ready to watch your progress. Thanks for the video, I'm hoping to watch many more. You're in Wonder Hussy territory now.

  • @rsa442
    @rsa442 2 роки тому

    Enjoyed the video and subbed , can't wait to see what the homestead will look like in future. Keep up the good work.

  • @redfish3204
    @redfish3204 2 роки тому

    Congrats, nothing is more satisfying then building things with your own two hands. Wishing you nothing buy the best

    • @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037
      @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037  2 роки тому

      Thanks Red Fish for your support. Yes it is. We will be doing more projects as we move forward out here. Take care. ✌️

  • @richarddibble4075
    @richarddibble4075 10 місяців тому +2

    Bro!! From your entrance from the road, you may want to post a sign saying *no trespassing, private property "" for starters... Looks awesome have more videos in the future.. greetings here in Flagstaff Arizona!! 09/12/23. 6:39am

  • @anthonydooley3616
    @anthonydooley3616 Рік тому +8

    Step 1 dig a well. You can't live very long in the desert without water. Step 2 Have a sustainable power supply to run the well pump. Step 3 Bring a 20ft sea land container out there to lock up your stuff when you are not around. I wish you well sir.

    • @jacoboaduran
      @jacoboaduran 2 місяці тому +1

      This all seems very reasonable!

  • @jc7052
    @jc7052 Рік тому

    Good for you,it will be exhausting but it will be worth it !

  • @dianemiller3899
    @dianemiller3899 2 роки тому +14

    Very interested in your development. We will start working on our 10 acres in eastern Oregon next May. Our view looks much like yours. Hope to learn from you. I'm particularly interested in what you do for water, sewage, power.

    • @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037
      @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037  2 роки тому +2

      Hi Diane, thanks for your comment. Oregon is beautiful country. As for our journey out here, we are just starting to move forward on things. So far we are hauling in our water in 55 gal drums, and using a gas generator for power and portible draining system to empty our black water. We use the grey water for watering the ground area that we are prepping for grass and trees. Take care.

    • @GratefulOverlander
      @GratefulOverlander Рік тому +1

      *Western Idaho

  • @boisepawn3489
    @boisepawn3489 Рік тому

    This is awesome! I have 2 acres in Ryndon. Bought in 2017

  • @larrylee4919
    @larrylee4919 2 роки тому

    Just found you. Glad to get in on the beginning. 👍

    • @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037
      @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037  2 роки тому +1

      Awesome, thanks for your support. Yep we are just starting out on our journey on the homestead. ✌️

  • @heathermott8830
    @heathermott8830 11 місяців тому

    Nice. Just bought 10 acres just north of Montello NV. Hope to start working on it soon.

  • @paulleckner8235
    @paulleckner8235 Рік тому

    I have 2 acres in the Mojave Desert in Kern County, California. Thanks for the ideas.

    • @algonzalez7192
      @algonzalez7192 Рік тому

      Hi Paul I two own two parcel of 2.5 in Kern County, just found out Kern County don't allow any camping

  • @Buzzard2014
    @Buzzard2014 Рік тому

    one advice i would give you is electric start and diesel generator, looks interesting what you are doing keep up the great work and have a great day

  • @comicmikesilverageadams8360
    @comicmikesilverageadams8360 Рік тому +1

    I bought an acre of ground in Deming NM. Im coming back to do some camping on it for the first time. Be there tomorrow. I would say that's a jack rabbit hole

  • @milo6373
    @milo6373 Рік тому +1

    Those look like badger holes , been hunting the trout creek area late 70s early 80s , I'd gravel in campsite and silty spots on road in the mud is crazy mess when soaked best of luck on endeavors...🤔✌️👍💪🙏

  • @petejoy6328
    @petejoy6328 Рік тому +3

    Good luck on the homestead!! I have 5 acres just east of Elko I’m doing the same on next year

    • @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037
      @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037  Рік тому +1

      Thanks. That's awesome, your not very far from us. 👍✌️

    • @lensperspective9753
      @lensperspective9753 Рік тому

      Lol, same here, do as the locals do, they don't want new people messing with their way of life, I'm sure, like Tahoe with Californians. See you all at the Basque festival! Agur! Let's all try to help Elko and eachother as new homestead-ers

    • @WorstCowboyEver
      @WorstCowboyEver 5 місяців тому

      @petejoy6328 how’d it turn out?

  • @mikeaustin1323
    @mikeaustin1323 Рік тому

    New subscriber

  • @wyomiles6580
    @wyomiles6580 2 роки тому +3

    My guess for those holes would be badger. Keep an eye out if it is, you do not want to get to close to them.

  • @calliepieters3446
    @calliepieters3446 Рік тому

    Now you have to deal with the county laws !! trust me I have land like this too. thanks and good luck

  • @assog5737
    @assog5737 Рік тому +3

    Just something to think about.
    You might want to check the flood plan in your area. If there is one.
    It looks like your trailer is in a low lying area.
    You might want to rethink what your doing.
    And build in a higher area.
    Flash floods will easily wipe you out.
    Also I lived in Nevada for 25 years and I never saw or even heard of badgers there.
    And I know a guy who has lived in Nevada all his life.
    And has been trapping all his life. And he has never seen or heard of any also.
    Anyway good luck.

    • @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037
      @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037  Рік тому +1

      They @Ass OG, thanks for your comment, yah we put sandbags along our exterior and made some french drains so we should be ok for the most part. But yeah your right we thought about the area where we put the trailer but looked at past runoffs. Should be ok. And I don't know anything about badgers either we've been out here 4 months and haven't seen any. Mostly elk and rabbits. Take care. ✌️

  • @tonylarson1960able
    @tonylarson1960able Рік тому +1

    That's a rabbit hole a coyote was trying to get it! Wich side of I80 are you one we deer hunt alot by Elko! God bless good luck on your quest!
    Tony n Lee Ann

  • @helencook4248
    @helencook4248 Рік тому

    Keep putting out videos

  • @stephenwong4934
    @stephenwong4934 Рік тому

    Good luck with that. Maybe grow some cactus out there? Look out for the rattlers!

  • @RickPosta
    @RickPosta 2 роки тому +8

    Been looking into doing something very similar and looks like it's getting closer to reality. Figured you'd be a great source to ask these questions. Any places in particular in Elko County one should look to avoid? Any places that you recommend? How much does it cost to fill your 55 gallon water tanks? And what have been your challenges living in the RV? Sorry for the barrage of questions. Keep up with the great videos, I've watched all of them.

    • @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037
      @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037  2 роки тому +8

      Hello Rick, Elko County is a great place to homestead due to the least amount of building restrictions. Having researched it out, we fiound the only restrictions is having a septic once you build a home or dwelling. No zoning regulations and you can live out of your RV as long as it takes, indefinitely. As you see it gets windy so that is one of the biggest challenges. Water is free if its within reason and you talk to the right gas station employee/owner. Otherwise there is a town well you can get a share with. Its non potable so you would need water filters. As far as locations, its all desert so lightning storms will spark brush fires so you need to create fire lines or breaks. Not really any bad areas just hard ones to get to for access roads so do your homework before your purchase. Thanks for your support and we'll be here if you have anymore questions.

    • @Channel--Ai
      @Channel--Ai Рік тому +1

      @@nevadadeserthomesteaders5037 is eureka county same way?

  • @raymondharrisoncomposer
    @raymondharrisoncomposer Рік тому

    Congratulations I am planning to purchase land in Nyle County 10 acres. I’ll build a Barn and turn it into a recording studio and use solar energy!
    Much continued success as you enjoy Nevada!

  • @thehalversonway4002
    @thehalversonway4002 Рік тому +2

    I'm sure you got everything figured out but I've seen people make mistakes do the groundwork 1st swells and water run off before you decide to build

  • @nickmelanson1684
    @nickmelanson1684 6 місяців тому

    Hi neighbor-ish, my sons and I just bought a 40 acre plot just north of Winnemucca

  • @tracedog27
    @tracedog27 Рік тому +1

    Gets pretty cold up there in NE Nevada.

  • @blissfulacresoffgridhomest2098

    Good luck on your adventure! We subbed, we are sort of neighbors in Az.

  • @paulleckner8235
    @paulleckner8235 Рік тому

    My 2 acres in the Mojave Desert looks like a golf course. The ground squirrels or prairie dogs are out there.

  • @user-ss1pp9rk8n
    @user-ss1pp9rk8n 10 місяців тому +1

    Good job. Enjoyed the video and subbed, I too just bought 40 acres just north of Winnemucca NV. I think we are close by, Hope to start working on it soon. Got some good valuable tips from you. I see you have not posted any new updates in the last 12 months I guess, is everything good? Any one else in the same boat, ping me, we can share tips.

    • @reaper10mm17
      @reaper10mm17 6 місяців тому +1

      We are doing the same thing North ish of Winnemucca on 40 acres.

  • @ben8405
    @ben8405 Рік тому +1

    Buy your own escavater.
    You won't reget it.
    Build your garage extra large.
    You won't regret it.
    Dig a large basement, away from
    the garage. You, can create
    a large storage vault.
    20 acres, is great.
    Sell me five acres .
    I have great ideas.
    we can work together.
    I'm totally honest, and am
    a very experienced handyman.
    i'm retired.
    I have super good love
    for the land.
    Do not pass this opportunity.

  • @watchfullwarrior8180
    @watchfullwarrior8180 10 місяців тому

    Awesome Video, I have been wanting to do this for a while, I just heard that Nevada can be tyrants when it comes to off grid living, always thought New Hampshire and Nevada were the most free states.

  • @MoroMoro1
    @MoroMoro1 6 місяців тому

    Happy land purchase anniversary

  • @chrisnixon6242
    @chrisnixon6242 2 роки тому

    Howdy neighbor!

  • @garybalanesi610
    @garybalanesi610 Рік тому +1

    Watch out for the Mormon crickets.
    They are thick..

  • @DIYVariety
    @DIYVariety 2 роки тому

    Enjoyed the video. i hit the sub cheers.

  • @mazlosoutdooradventures8594

    I wish I could do this

  • @michaelgulbin-zn7vk
    @michaelgulbin-zn7vk Рік тому

    Ya,the new,new frontier.great! N.e.nevada great.the whole,I think that size hole nothing to worry.i thought coyote,to big for rabbit?

  • @timthompson8297
    @timthompson8297 Місяць тому

    Gee, that’s going to be an oven in the summer.

  • @MountainEagle77
    @MountainEagle77 Місяць тому +1

    We are thinking of buying in Elko/Ryndon. Do you know if that area gets deep snow and / or mud in the winter?

  • @rickbrown1734
    @rickbrown1734 Рік тому

    Looks like a jackrabbit would need to pack a lunch to cross that area.

  • @stevelabranche6119
    @stevelabranche6119 Рік тому +3

    I lived in Nevada 19 years. Those are Badger digs. Not fresh, they look old, and not a den. Beware though, they won't back down from anything, even your truck. If you have to shoot one, they are extremely difficult to skin.

    • @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037
      @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037  Рік тому +1

      Wow, Thanks for your info. I Believe thats what it could be. I just wish I had seen one. They must be very evasive. We have those holes all over our Hill on the west side of the property. Thanks for your support!

  • @cody1524
    @cody1524 9 місяців тому

    Looks like badger den.

  • @mechanics4all405
    @mechanics4all405 9 місяців тому

    prioritise ponds swales,organic matter

  • @steveaguinaga3821
    @steveaguinaga3821 Рік тому

    Since its 20 acres... You should really buy compact- sub compact tractor.
    Get a lot of work done. Without renting..
    Look into summit tractors. Best bang for your buck American made.
    You're living my dream.. I'm half way there.. Best wishes to you sir..

  • @gtahalestorm7583
    @gtahalestorm7583 4 місяці тому

    My question is, can you live on your property in a travel trailer or RV long-term with a septic system in nv right now I live in southern Nevada outside of Las Vegas

  • @Bluebird590
    @Bluebird590 Рік тому +2

    Northern Nevada 20 acres SWEET
    Available surrounding acreage for sale ?
    I'd settle for 10 acres
    Eagerly waiting to see process 👍

  • @larrylee4919
    @larrylee4919 Рік тому +1

    I’m keeping up with you on FB. Any plans to get back to your property?

  • @lydellgreen8053
    @lydellgreen8053 2 роки тому

    I'm also homesteading in nw nevada

    • @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037
      @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037  2 роки тому +1

      Awesome! So we're neighbors. We love it out here. We are still new to the area, it's our first summer here so we will see how the fall and winter season is. Thanks for your sub and comment. Keep in touch. ✌️

    • @lydellgreen8053
      @lydellgreen8053 2 роки тому

      Will do any tips and tricks would be appreciated I'm new to homesteading and I have 7 children so ideas definitely help,

  • @Iziireal
    @Iziireal Рік тому

    Looks like those holes may be from people who have been digging for gold nuggets.
    I'm thinking about getting some property in northeast Nevada.
    Are you near Elko?
    Best of luck to you.

  • @ronbecker7939
    @ronbecker7939 2 роки тому +1

    Swales next!!!

  • @sillyblind
    @sillyblind Рік тому +2

    Got Wind?

  • @williamcochell9889
    @williamcochell9889 Рік тому

    Just curious about your location what are the towns that are around you or closest to?

  • @user-ui4bm1vz7k
    @user-ui4bm1vz7k 4 місяці тому

    Tremors lmfao jk man love the vids

  • @ScullyOregon
    @ScullyOregon Рік тому

    your property looks like it's in a flood plain ...is this near Montello? My property is closer to the Utah/Idaho Border

  • @mondohotrods7384
    @mondohotrods7384 Рік тому +1

    Does your property have a deeded easement for the road? I have always wanted to move to the Nevada desert and am looking to buy in the coming years. However, when ever I inquire about easements or right-of-ways I get no feedback from online sellers. Makes me nervous that I’m looking at land locked parcels. Thanks and best of luck to you.

    • @robwilli9920
      @robwilli9920 3 місяці тому

      Call the county with the parcel# and they should be able to tell you. Or look the property up on the assessors website. I was worried about my property’s access before buying, as listing and realtors did not say. Found it was a deeded road going back 30 years. Do your own research on everything.

  • @raymondbrown867
    @raymondbrown867 Місяць тому

    What did you do for septic.

  • @markschneider2307
    @markschneider2307 Рік тому

    Their should be some gold on your land as well.

  • @johnmillman2048
    @johnmillman2048 2 роки тому +1

    I'd fill those holes back in. They're an open invitation for anything whatever to crawl in and call home. Unless you really want anything whatever's crawling about I'd fill em back in.

    • @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037
      @nevadadeserthomesteaders5037  2 роки тому

      Hi John, yah for sure. Lol can't figure out what lived in them yet. Lol.

    • @johnmillman2048
      @johnmillman2048 2 роки тому +2

      @@nevadadeserthomesteaders5037 leave the holes open and you'll find out... 🐍

  • @Christopher-be1qc
    @Christopher-be1qc Місяць тому

    Oh LORD it beeps in forward too???

  • @markschneider2307
    @markschneider2307 Рік тому

    I used to lived in Elko. NOW IN KC. MO. looking at AZ. Would Nevada be better choice for this? Maybe Ely or Winnemucca

    • @sethpawlik
      @sethpawlik Рік тому +1

      I live in Elko. Winnemucca would be more north central NV. Ely would be central NV. So I would think this is somewhere in Elko County. Remember it's a huge county.

    • @michaelgulbin-zn7vk
      @michaelgulbin-zn7vk Рік тому +1

      Arizona much different I think,seems so populated in general compared to nev.

  • @kenuber4014
    @kenuber4014 Рік тому +1

    Looks like a Badger hole to me.

  • @nicoMack-xp9vj
    @nicoMack-xp9vj Місяць тому

    😊

  • @bighoudini6130
    @bighoudini6130 11 місяців тому

    That hole there lives the one eyed one horn flying purple people eater .

  • @andyacosta1985
    @andyacosta1985 4 місяці тому

    Does the truck struggle to pull your trailer

  • @andyacosta1985
    @andyacosta1985 4 місяці тому

    Where exactly is this and how much was the 20 acres

  • @rickcrippen5180
    @rickcrippen5180 Рік тому +3

    Ever seen the movie “Tremors”?

  • @davidhamberlin5155
    @davidhamberlin5155 Рік тому

    Got room for another trailer???😊

  • @S.c30
    @S.c30 8 місяців тому

    יפה

  • @johnvanorden5259
    @johnvanorden5259 Рік тому +1

    Haven't seen a new video in a while.... didn't give up did ya?

    • @kilodeltawhisky1504
      @kilodeltawhisky1504 Рік тому

      That's what I'm wondering. We had a busy winter here on the eastern side of the Sierras. Lots of snow. Just drove through ne Nevada in May and that's some hard land to start a homestead. I'm too old for that business. Grass and trees? 🤣🤣🤣. Not without WATER. Tarp shed in the Nevada wind? 😳🤨. And from what I saw of the ground, they need to move that trailer to higher ground. Interesting to see if they come back.

  • @curiouspeople6441
    @curiouspeople6441 5 місяців тому

    how much did 20 acres cost you ?

  • @jeromeburrasca6710
    @jeromeburrasca6710 10 місяців тому

    What County is that?

  • @giggity8249
    @giggity8249 11 місяців тому

    Lmao, a Kuerig. That will dissappear. 😅

    • @giggity8249
      @giggity8249 11 місяців тому

      You got a digger, not a scraper, btw.

  • @mjbb1966
    @mjbb1966 Рік тому +4

    look into earthship housing...it was developed in new Mexico...this is how you live in the desert....don't try to change the desert...

  • @hildebertocarreiro9232
    @hildebertocarreiro9232 Місяць тому

    Just buy Walmart pool collection of water

  • @zxcvbnmdb
    @zxcvbnmdb 2 місяці тому

    you are on a flood plain dude

  • @tblbaby
    @tblbaby 2 роки тому

    holes, coyotes or badgers. Stuff that will eat your dog if it gets a chance, so watch close.

  • @goodday23456
    @goodday23456 10 місяців тому

    Snakes make holes, I think. 😟

  • @robertrichard2585
    @robertrichard2585 Рік тому

    Ever have trouble with mice or other critters

  • @PaydayGabeBCNV
    @PaydayGabeBCNV Рік тому +1

    Desert Tortoise 🐢 burrow.

  • @RL-vd8fh
    @RL-vd8fh 4 місяці тому

    Coyotes makes those holes

  • @meanboycoins6250
    @meanboycoins6250 Рік тому

    tons of rabbits in that area

  • @sweendog2769
    @sweendog2769 Рік тому +2

    If you dont have water on the property it will never work bro... Sry......old plumber guy.. There might be water there,, gotta ask the local water well drilling guys.. Otherwise buy another piece of land close by with water on it.. Just sayin 😆

  • @johnelser9256
    @johnelser9256 Рік тому

    You should’ve rented a small bulldozer

  • @OTFCXyph
    @OTFCXyph Рік тому

    you need to dig underground. heat aint worth it lumnuts

  • @frankmorris4790
    @frankmorris4790 Рік тому +2

    I wish you all good luck. But if like most urban pilgrims you tire of a life without a mall and pull foot back to town as so many newbies do. Please take your shit with you. Southern AZ and NM is becoming a train of ruined plywood Tiny houses and all the crap that goes with.