That’s what I was going to say… but you beat me to the punch. Lori was a manipulative person, we can all be fooled , especially good hearted, trusting and kind people.
These poor, poor people everything these people are correct, the police really dropped the "BALL", it's heartbreaking to think if Lori had been picked up and questioned sooner, and problems and pre-meditated violence are two completely different things. . . . .
Nate Eaton has been a humble advocate for Tylee and JJ as well as the many other victims of this horrible tragedy. A true professional and commendable journalist! 👍👏☺
Charles had every right to be furious with Lori, yet he stood there with the police saying she needs help and that he loves her. It’s heartbreaking that such a good guy was murdered by (or at the request of) the person he loved.
One of the most frustrating elements in this case to me. Is Charles tried so hard to get help. He seemed genuinely worried for the children. We need to focus more on safety first where children are concerned I feel. Someone needs to be able to intervene when there is a concern. Keep the children safe until the concern is proved true or false.
One of my friend's who was a Judge always told me he would always error on the side of protecting a child before the accused ... the reason his courthouse was one of the first to get TSA quality screening put in was because he found a dad guilty of SA against his child and the guy pulled a gun and fired several shots before he was subdued. The next time he was ruling against a parent (this time a mother) she reached into her bag and started to pull something dark out ... He immediately ducked behind his dias, the bailiffs swarmed ... we all got a huge laugh because she was just getting a twinkie for her child 😳 Absolutely true stories from Ckackamas County OR
I so agree with you! It is truly heartbreaking to watch the police bodycam footage of Charles trying to tell them how dangerous Lori had become. It's hard to watch. 💔
Yes, these people like Lori manipulate the system, know what to say, when to say it. Always remember the devil was an angel too and you can still appear as one today, as also pertaining to Chad, Lori, Alex. They are the absolute Trinity of the devils!
Charles was a kind , Loving, man.. he had a sense of humor that was the best. I knew him for a long time.. I wanted him to stay with me but she tricked him to go back .. That was when he was murdered.... Alex was a perverted man ,,he & Lori had a sexual relationship... I know her too. They were sick people,,Chad too.The Temple or church should be burned they teach a evil cult... God took Charles to be with the kid's..... Still I rather have them all here with me!!!! I Love You Charles,sadly missed never forgotten..mylove
I agree. She talked so much about dark and light....she wS talking about her thoughts on dark spirits...she was referring to herself but pointing finger at others. All these people were innocent, except her and Chad.
Well Said!!!!! I AGREE! SHE had a FANTASTIC husband and she threw it all away! She DISGUSTS ME!!!!! And I agree with Gerry ..That B ..AAaatch knew exactly what she was doing!
Nate has done such an amazing job in this case. I don't think it would've gained the national attention it has without him. I'm so glad he listens to the family and empathizes with them instead of just asking for the "facts." Good man!
I love that couple so much; so nice to see the NORMAL side of their families. Charles brother is such a good man, what a wonderful marriage they have, she's a hoot! GOD bless them and everyone they love. :) I'm praying for justice for Charles.
So sad when she said how much Charles loved Lori & at that time she was plotting to kill him. It's hard for me to believe anyone that professes God could believe they're supposed to kill people & especially her own children... Charles brother still needs closure. Just so sad
Yes, he tried his best to keep it together and be strong, even though it's perfectly ok for him to cry or break down, bless his heart 😔💔 I hope Lori goes to trial and they get the Justice they deserve.
@@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage Me too. It's too bad that Gerry didnt to see Charles that much and thanks to Lori now he can't. Very sad for such a nice family.
Fellow Houstonian utterly devastated by the deaths of Charles, the children, and all other victims. I never realized I could care so much for people I have never met. God bless you on your healing journey.
She knew 100% of what was happening. She directed it. She schemed and plotted and is the epitome of evil. It's not the same as Andrea Yates at all. You are so right.
Andrea Yates was a victim of her post natal psychosis and a husband who didnt care for her needs. Men who use women as baby machines are reckless, selfish SOBs. A womans body is not an atm machine. 😠
It’s sad to say, but this case would have been completely overlooked, same as Tammy’s death if the children had not ended up murdered. There needs to be more investigation into cases like these where relatively young people have died or been killed under suspicious circumstances.
But unfortunately, the kids were never going to not be murdered. I believe Lori is a serial killer. I’m under the impression that Alex and Chad did all the dirty work, but they did it for her and she’s the one that initiated things. She’s also the one who got the most gratification from the murders. At the same time, I don’t think this would have happened had she not met chad. Or maybe what I’m trying to say is it wouldn’t have gone as far? All I know is that this is a rare case of the absolute worst people coming into each other’s lives. It took Chad, Lori and Alex as a group for all of this to happen. It’s a very rare situation that we’ve been watching. I also think that Lori and Alex had a relationship beyond being brother and sister, which adds another level to things that we’ve never seen before.
@@murphy1011 That's an interesting theory. I never thought about it that way. Now that you mentioned it.. I'm sure something would have eventually happened. You're probably right, it may not have gotten as far as the kids though.. I will say, I agree I definitely think she was the driving force behind all of these murders. I know her family and friends were coming out saying how great of a person she was at 1st... I don't buy it. I normally don't judge so harshly at 1st, when I know so little but... I really have a hard time seeing her as Any kind of innocent bystander. Just from hearing her speak, you can tell she's a huge manipulater. I'm interested to see what kind of other information comes out.
@@murphy1011 yeah I get where you’re coming from too and I do agree to some point that Lori was always going to keep going but who’s to say if the police had gotten onto Charles’ murder earlier she might not have gone ahead with it if she was already being looked at for his murder. 20/20 is great but my point is how many other cases out there are being gotten away with because there isn’t huge scrutiny come upon those responsible due to even worse crimes, hopefully there aren’t other cases that are being overlooked because it’s a one off life insurance murder is all.
Aww even his dog knew Gerry was upset and tried to get over to him to help 😥. God bless Gerry and Melanie for giving Nate their time and heart felt thoughts. Justice is coming for Charles, Tylee, JJ and Tammy. 🇺🇸
im sorry for all 4 victims & loved ones. & yes no PC crap here. the honesty so refreshing. admitting "no one is perfect" & "i don't hit girls but id like to punch her in the throat" good for you brother..
Aww it was good to hear from Gerry & Melanie! We usually just see Kay & Larry. I feel bad for Charles entire family as they go through this process of learning from these documents what took place. But I am glad there have been charges brought fort FINALLY for Charles!!! #Justice4CharlesVallow
These are the kind of interviews I enjoy from you Nate and The Vallows are good down to earth people! I hope they find peace when justice is served! 🌷💝
The Chandler police failed Charles Vallow, failed her two children, Failed Tammy Daybell and even Alex cox weirdly. Had the YT take this seriously an investigated Allie, Chad and Alex deeply right away a lot of lives might have been saved.
@@pamelamorris3148 you are out of your mind, he tried to get Lori into som sort of psychological intervention because she had become so nutso over it, he wasn’t deeply involved like Lori he started to have reservations about Chad and knew something weird was up and and he sure as hell never would have signed off on killing children and people in their circle in the name of a psycho religion. The PD absolutely dragged their asses on this and there will be a huge lawsuit you wait and see.
Praying this family gets justice for Charles. Their dog even picked up when he got upset while explaining him being mad during the interview. 😢 God bless them. I’m so very sorry for your loss. ❤️
Yes, my husband is a disabled vet and they prescribed him a dog for his PTSD. Dogs are one of the few things that bring him happiness when he gets in rage. Whenever he sees a dog he turns into a little boy.
Gerry don't worry like lady said.. I know people in high corrupt places & where ever some of these stupid person end up at for life,,, my friends will give a nice HELLO who's YOUR DADDY NOW??? Get what I'm saying ....I'm mamaseedta......you won't see me but that's the last name you'll hear🐾👣🎱🔫
Google Church of the Lamb of God. Also a mormon offshoot. You think this is crazy? You’ll be blown away by that one. Higher body count than any slasher movie I’ve ever seen!
Yes he does look like Charles. So sad they had to lose him and he said he misses him so much😢 She ruined so many lives. 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️Vallows and Woodcocks
Justifiable righteous rage. I have delayed reaction too. Such dignified patience for closure and justice. I pray for peace and comfort for this loving family.
All so sad 😞 Took so many people to plead for help before any notice was taken and seriously lives could have been saved if only the police listened to Charles
@eboston7591 Goodness, another comment with NO response. Leena, are you getting bored with this yet? I seem to be about the only person that cares about your comments.
Great Job @Nate Eaton & @East Idaho News. So heartbreaking. Boy, do Charles & brother look alike. Thank you and prayers to all involved in uncovering the truth. Tough, painful unimaginable tragedy
I just love this couple!! It's so horrible that his brother never should have died. If only the cops had taken him more seriously and investigated what he was saying to them. So sad! Prayers for this family.
Charles Vallow seemed like such an amazing good hearted human being. It's a shame that his cries for help were ignored. He did everything he could to help Lori even going as far as trying to set up an intervention. May you rest in peace Charles
I love Gerry and his wife. They are so real and authentic and down to earth. Great video Nate and excellent coverage East Idaho News of this entire story. The grieving process can take up to 2 years. Elizabeth Kubling Ross wrote the book on grief. Been there done that because my boyfriend was murdered. I can empathize very much.
Gerry and Melanie...thank u for sharing all this with us viewers. I'm so sorry for ur loss. Charles sounds like a wonderful father. And I agree Lori and Chad should rot in jail forever. And Alex is in hell for what he did.
What a sweet couple! My heart breaks for all of the families who have been hurt. Life in prison would be perfect. Then they have nothing for a retrial. God bless all of the family members.
Thank you Gerry & Melanie for sharing with us who Charles was to you and giving a little more insight on who Lori was. Although I do feel that Lori knew how to get what she wanted and how to manipulate men, I also believe she was just as easily manipulated by Chad. I think she truly wanted to believe that she had purpose and that she was more than just some pretty blonde. Unfortunately she took everything Chad fed her to the extreme to believe she was some sort of Goddess, but I just cannot fathom giving up a husband who genuinely loved her, her children, brother or anyone else for someone like Chad. It just baffles me. I pray that she comes out of her little fantasy world soon, realizes what she's done and is held accountable for her actions. In the meantime I'm looking forward to Chad's conviction. I wish I could be a fly on the wall when he faces his judgement day with God, but hopefully I get to witness his judgement day with the Jury. It couldn't come soon enough!
I think Lori had to be a little disturbed before she met Chad Dumbell. She couldn't have have done a 180 like that so quickly. She had evil inside of her from the get go I believe. I wonder how her sister passed away.
@@user-uo4hl4dc4b Everybody close to her has said she began to change once she started reading Chad's books, which is my understanding was a few years before she actually met him. I also believe she suffered from some sort of mental disorder prior to all this. Possibly due to some sort of trauma she endured as a child or young adult? Idk but I believe she developed some sort of fascination with Chad through his books, which amplified once she met him in person and he started feeding her his line of garbage.
I still believe wholeheartedly that Lori and Chud manipulated each other for their own purposes and that Lori is keeping up this act of being delusional so that she still receives understanding and a measure of sympathy from her family and fellow inmates. Can you imagine how they would treat her if she was actually ,for once, honest and they saw her for what she actually has been for years probably, a narcissistic sociopathic , and now serial killer?
I'd love to be a fly on the wall of wherever Lori's and Alex's 'oh so devoted' Niece Melanie is right now..... She must be bricking it! She always said the truth would be proven, I feel this isn't her interpretation of the truth but it's truth nonetheless. I really hope she is hauled in to explain herself more.
I always felt that Melanie knew way more than she was saying. I mean, how do you not push to know where your niece and nephew are unless you already know?
God bless these two beautiful people. My heart and prayers go out to you and your family. I could only imagine all that y'all are going through with this and will have to deal with throughout the trials. I truly love that y'all are keeping your focus on God and the love you will always have for an amazing man and beautiful children that were stolen from your lives way too soon. Stay strong and know that one day y'all will definitely see each other again 😘😘😘.
It’s just so sad for Charles family. I can so relate to how helpless Charles felt with the inability to get mental health help for Lori. I had a mother who was just evil and she was always in a state of craziness that no one could help us to get her help or to try and control her destructive ways. After dealing with my mother for 30 years I could say she wasn’t mentally ill but she was just evil claiming to be mentally ill. She gamed the system from the time she was 20 years old until her death at 74. The day she died was the happiest day of my life unfortunately. It was just such a relief to not have to worry about her trying to kill one of her children or some other innocent person. Prison will be too good for both Lori and Chad but it will be more punishment for them to have to be controlled by someone else so they can’t hurt anyone else.
We are going through a similar thing. So far nobody is dead, but getting law enforcement and the judicial system to take it seriously is impossible. Our concern has been committed twice and is diagnosed a schizophrenic, yet the judge still thinks this man should be alone with his child. The child, he has made it clear he believes has been programmed with neural dust ( what ever that is). And he wants to deprogram the child. The child is afraid of his dad, yet he has legal rights to take off with the child. We have spent over $80, in court and lawyer fees to protect our child. It took two years to get a temp custody order. We go to court in July and pray they don’t let that man be alone with the child till he is safe.
She's not crazy ,she knew exactly what she was doing she just thought she would never get caught , bet there's more to come on this situation it will all come out in the end and it will be very ugly .
God Bless everyone affected by the choices made by these two very evil people. I believe justice will be served for JJ, Tylee, Tammy Daybell, and Charles Vallow. Unfortunately, this could've so easily been prevented if law enforcement just listened to Charles to begin with. Much love to the Vallow/Woodcock family, Colby Ryan as well as Annie Cushing.
Alex should have been arrested and locked up without bail at the scene. The kids and Tammy may have been spared. The Arizona cops dropped the ball over and over on this case. I hope the family launches a wrongful death suit against them.
I really enjoyed Gerry calling Chad an accurate name and hearing him say that he would love to throat punch Lori!!! These poor people have been through so much, and what they have lost, can never be given back!!! So to hear him speak open and honest, was refreshing!!!
None of those people from Charles right on up to Alex didn't have to die, If that Police department that he first went to for help had paid attention to what he was saying when he was telling them about what Lori was doing, saying & we now know was planning!
Lori created so much devastation to so many people. She's an evil, destructive force who needs to pay together with her accomplices for their crimes. I think she is very fit for trial, all of her dark deeds took a lot of planning and manipulation. She knew exactly what she was doing. My heart is breaking for all the people who loved Charles, Tylee, JJ and Tammy. Justice for all of them.Stay strong.
They are such Humble people and the way they think about Chad Daybell,Lorie, Alex AND Zulema YES Zulema seems like she is like Lorie if not WORST But what THESE PEOPLE did to CHARLES,TAMMY,JJ,TYLEE AND RYAN Didnt have to HAPPEN AT ALL. Chad Daybell and Zulema And Lorie are the EVIL IN THIS WORLD. Melanie & Jerry Your in our Prayers 🙏🙏🥀🥀
Charles seemed like an excellent man. You could tell that he loved all of the kids. Police body cam showed him very concerned about JJ, Tylee, & even Lori actually. He was scared for them all. Fearful for himself too. I can’t imagine what this family has been through. I’m angry, and I don’t even know anyone. I feel angry about Tammy too. Lori, and Chad are purely evil.
Great interview! So sad to see how much pain the brother is going through but he is doing the right thing by speaking out publicly. He really humanized his brother for us and gave us insight into what kind of man Charles was. I hope they find peace somehow.
I believe Lori also shot Charles, that second shot while he laid on the floor, was Lori. Btw, those Vallow genes are strong, Gerry, Charles and Kay look alike.
She has a physical alibi. She was shopping at Target with Tylee and JJ. Dropped JJ off at school. Then returned to Charles house with Tylee. Police were called around 8:30am so the murder happened very early in the morning.
@@Kelly-rt4kz I have listened to them all..the Jan.31 , 2019 was the one, that blew me away. The first time when the children were missing, I stopped listening because that certain one was too strange.After the children were found , I went back and listened too her description of what happened a few more times......I was in shock for a long time... Im still 😮
I keep thinking I’m done crying over this case, but the waves keep breaking. Gerry and Melanie are so kind and did not deserve this senseless tragedy. Charles tried so hard to get help, for himself, his children, and even for Lori, who he loved. He came from good people and was a good, honorable man. 🌹🌹🌹
Great hearing from Gerry and Melanie. Praying for them and their family 🙏❤ Thanks for interviewing them Nate! I hope you get an award after all of this. You're doing an outstanding job! I'm very impressed with your professionalism , compassion and drive to bring us the truthful information and updates ever since this case started.
Man I just love Charles's family....Kay and Larry and now his brother here. Salt of the Earth kind of people.
Right?!? A lovely, down to earth family ❤️
WONDERFUL people. Makes you think about how amazing their parents must have been...
That’s what I was going to say… but you beat
me to the punch. Lori was a manipulative person, we can all be fooled , especially good hearted, trusting and kind people.
Good people
I believe that the man really is right let those two rot in jail
Gerry and his wife are lovely. I pray they get the justice they deserve.
God bless Gerry !! You can see and hear the hurt in him.
Gerry & his wife are dear people and I can see Gerry and Kay Woodcox as siblings.
I'm very glad that Gerry has Mel.
These poor, poor people everything these people are correct, the police really dropped the "BALL", it's heartbreaking to think if Lori had been picked up and questioned sooner, and problems and pre-meditated violence are two completely different things. . . . .
Nate Eaton has been a humble advocate for Tylee and JJ as well as the many other victims of this horrible tragedy. A true professional and commendable journalist! 👍👏☺
Yes, actual journalism, not propoganda.
Charles had every right to be furious with Lori, yet he stood there with the police saying she needs help and that he loves her. It’s heartbreaking that such a good guy was murdered by (or at the request of) the person he loved.
I know, he was so sincerely concerned about her mental well being.
She put him and Joe through hell. I really feel bad for both of them.
One of the most frustrating elements in this case to me. Is Charles tried so hard to get help. He seemed genuinely worried for the children. We need to focus more on safety first where children are concerned I feel. Someone needs to be able to intervene when there is a concern. Keep the children safe until the concern is proved true or false.
Yes, Law enforcement and alot of ppl in his life let him down. Very Sad..
One of my friend's who was a Judge always told me he would always error on the side of protecting a child before the accused ... the reason his courthouse was one of the first to get TSA quality screening put in was because he found a dad guilty of SA against his child and the guy pulled a gun and fired several shots before he was subdued.
The next time he was ruling against a parent (this time a mother) she reached into her bag and started to pull something dark out ... He immediately ducked behind his dias, the bailiffs swarmed ... we all got a huge laugh because she was just getting a twinkie for her child 😳 Absolutely true stories from Ckackamas County OR
@@lamesafilipinofoodclub6202 yes but her family the coxes were just as bad!!
I so agree with you! It is truly heartbreaking to watch the police bodycam footage of Charles trying to tell them how dangerous Lori had become. It's hard to watch. 💔
Yes, these people like Lori manipulate the system, know what to say, when to say it. Always remember the devil was an angel too and you can still appear as one today, as also pertaining to Chad, Lori, Alex. They are the absolute Trinity of the devils!
My heart is breaking for Gerry and his entire family. Great interview, Nate!
Good interview, just good, normal people who are hurting, not pretending to be anything they're not. So sorry for their loss.
Great comment!
@@Onelightoftheworld 💕💕💕
Truly a terrible loss. I pray the Holy Spirit comfort them.
My hat is off to you sir! Well said. 💝
@@deehammond7504 Amen & Anen 💕💕💕
I’m so sorry for your loss. Charles sounds like he was an amazing man, Lori didn’t deserve him.
Charles was a kind , Loving, man.. he had a sense of humor that was the best. I knew him for a long time.. I wanted him to stay with me but she tricked him to go back .. That was when he was murdered.... Alex was a perverted man ,,he & Lori had a sexual relationship... I know her too. They were sick people,,Chad too.The Temple or church should be burned they teach a evil cult... God took Charles to be with the kid's..... Still I rather have them all here with me!!!! I Love You Charles,sadly missed never forgotten..mylove
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I agree. She talked so much about dark and light....she wS talking about her thoughts on dark spirits...she was referring to herself but pointing finger at others. All these people were innocent, except her and Chad.
No she did not deserve him at all!!!
Well Said!!!!! I AGREE! SHE had a FANTASTIC husband and she threw it all away! She DISGUSTS ME!!!!! And I agree with Gerry ..That B ..AAaatch knew exactly what she was doing!
Nate has done such an amazing job in this case. I don't think it would've gained the national attention it has without him. I'm so glad he listens to the family and empathizes with them instead of just asking for the "facts." Good man!
I agree 100%. He has been truly amazing in this case just as Lauren Scharf has in the Suzanne Morphew case. Wonderfully caring people ❤️
I’m glad that he asks important questions and then sits back to LISTEN to the answers, processes that and asks follow up questions all with RESPECT !
The Vallow's are such a beautiful family, so sorry for your loss and thinking of you all x
I love that couple so much; so nice to see the NORMAL side of their families. Charles brother is such a good man, what a wonderful marriage they have, she's a hoot! GOD bless them and everyone they love. :) I'm praying for justice for Charles.
So sad when she said how much Charles loved Lori & at that time she was plotting to kill him. It's hard for me to believe anyone that professes God could believe they're supposed to kill people & especially her own children...
Charles brother still needs closure. Just so sad
Read between the nervous laughter, swearing, and stories and it was enough to make me cry . Big Hugs to his brother and sister in law.
Yes, he tried his best to keep it together and be strong, even though it's perfectly ok for him to cry or break down, bless his heart 😔💔 I hope Lori goes to trial and they get the Justice they deserve.
I noticed the dogs anxiety when the owner got nervous. Dogs are amazing ,that dog would be a good PTSD animal. 💙🐾🙏💜
Gerry is a man after my own heart. I just love his personality! May you all get the justice your family and Charles deserves!
I agree.
@@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage Me too. It's too bad that Gerry didnt to see Charles that much and thanks to Lori now he can't. Very sad for such a nice family.
Down to Earth Good-hearted genuine people. This is such a nitemare.🙏
Thank you nate. Gerry and Melanie are great people. Telling the truth as they see it. Nothing wrong with that.
Prayers to Charles siblings and to all those who were harmed by this criminal misfit group They are right the ultimate Judge is God
I love this down to earth couple. God bless them.
Fellow Houstonian utterly devastated by the deaths of Charles, the children, and all other victims. I never realized I could care so much for people I have never met. God bless you on your healing journey.
Same! And I’m in Houston also! 💖
I agree I keep this family in my prayers. So many would alive today if they would of took Charles seriously.
We’re all brothers and sisters. 💜
Andrea Yates was insane Lori is "crazy like a fox!" She knew & planned every last inch of what she did.
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@Tooth less lol I know right?! Poor foxes
She knew 100% of what was happening. She directed it. She schemed and plotted and is the epitome of evil. It's not the same as Andrea Yates at all. You are so right.
@Tooth less LMAO love it 😍
Andrea Yates was a victim of her post natal psychosis and a husband who didnt care for her needs. Men who use women as baby machines are reckless, selfish SOBs. A womans body is not an atm machine. 😠
It’s sad to say, but this case would have been completely overlooked, same as Tammy’s death if the children had not ended up murdered. There needs to be more investigation into cases like these where relatively young people have died or been killed under suspicious circumstances.
But unfortunately, the kids were never going to not be murdered. I believe Lori is a serial killer. I’m under the impression that Alex and Chad did all the dirty work, but they did it for her and she’s the one that initiated things. She’s also the one who got the most gratification from the murders.
At the same time, I don’t think this would have happened had she not met chad. Or maybe what I’m trying to say is it wouldn’t have gone as far?
All I know is that this is a rare case of the absolute worst people coming into each other’s lives. It took Chad, Lori and Alex as a group for all of this to happen. It’s a very rare situation that we’ve been watching.
I also think that Lori and Alex had a relationship beyond being brother and sister, which adds another level to things that we’ve never seen before.
@@murphy1011 That's an interesting theory. I never thought about it that way. Now that you mentioned it.. I'm sure something would have eventually happened. You're probably right, it may not have gotten as far as the kids though..
I will say, I agree I definitely think she was the driving force behind all of these murders. I know her family and friends were coming out saying how great of a person she was at 1st... I don't buy it. I normally don't judge so harshly at 1st, when I know so little but... I really have a hard time seeing her as Any kind of innocent bystander. Just from hearing her speak, you can tell she's a huge manipulater. I'm interested to see what kind of other information comes out.
@@murphy1011 yeah I get where you’re coming from too and I do agree to some point that Lori was always going to keep going but who’s to say if the police had gotten onto Charles’ murder earlier she might not have gone ahead with it if she was already being looked at for his murder. 20/20 is great but my point is how many other cases out there are being gotten away with because there isn’t huge scrutiny come upon those responsible due to even worse crimes, hopefully there aren’t other cases that are being overlooked because it’s a one off life insurance murder is all.
I agree
@@murphy1011 i think lori & alex wete committing these crimes even before chad,& chad jist fit in with them to further their evil schemes!!
Aww even his dog knew Gerry was upset and tried to get over to him to help 😥. God bless Gerry and Melanie for giving Nate their time and heart felt thoughts. Justice is coming for Charles, Tylee, JJ and Tammy. 🇺🇸
Poor Charles didn't know he was dealing with a cult.
With crazy people
It's so sad. If only the police took him seriously, who knows, they all might be still alive.
The Police really did fail him. Unforgivable in my opinion.
Charles did know , but didn’t realise the tiny cult was full of misfits / delusional killers
@@marythomas1198 maybe she didn’t know? That could be the clue ……….
Great interview - his story about Charles was lovely.
Thank you for this. Very moving and so necessary to hear the victims. Well done Nate.
What incredible real people, probably a lot like charles.
Yes!
im sorry for all 4 victims & loved ones. & yes no PC crap here. the honesty so refreshing. admitting "no one is perfect" & "i don't hit girls but id like to punch her in the throat" good for you brother..
@@domi202 That’s exactly what I just wrote in my main comment. 🌟
Aww it was good to hear from Gerry & Melanie! We usually just see Kay & Larry. I feel bad for Charles entire family as they go through this process of learning from these documents what took place. But I am glad there have been charges brought fort FINALLY for Charles!!! #Justice4CharlesVallow
These are the kind of interviews I enjoy from you Nate and The Vallows are good down to earth people! I hope they find peace when justice is served! 🌷💝
Thank you Nate and thank you Charles family know that your Loved
The Chandler police failed Charles Vallow, failed her two children, Failed Tammy Daybell and even Alex cox weirdly. Had the YT take this seriously an investigated Allie, Chad and Alex deeply right away a lot of lives might have been saved.
I think Charles family should sue Chandler PD how this was handled.
yeah and they sould be sued he told them she threatened to kill him
@@cherylwright9408 I’m
Sure that’s already being discussed once the trial is over so it might be a while
Actually Charles was known to be in the cult also right along with Lori, and is who 100% signed both those kid's death sentence.
@@pamelamorris3148 you are out of your mind, he tried to get Lori into som sort of psychological intervention because she had become so nutso over it, he wasn’t deeply involved like Lori he started to have reservations about Chad and knew something weird was up and and he sure as hell never would have signed off on killing children and people in their circle in the name of a psycho religion. The PD absolutely dragged their asses on this and there will be a huge lawsuit you wait and see.
Praying this family gets justice for Charles. Their dog even picked up when he got upset while explaining him being mad during the interview. 😢 God bless them. I’m so very sorry for your loss. ❤️
I noticed that also. Animals know & feel our pain. I know my 2 certainly do.
Yes, my husband is a disabled vet and they prescribed him a dog for his PTSD. Dogs are one of the few things that bring him happiness when he gets in rage. Whenever he sees a dog he turns into a little boy.
@@joleahnowicki7058 Dogs are so incredible. Happy to know his service dog brings him joy.
So sorry to know of this.
God bless you both! ❤
That’s what I thought when they came back in the room. We truly don’t deserve dogs.
Dogs are so perceptive and empathetic. They're like furry angels.
Gerry you're grieving and I see you hurting, hang in there buddy. Charles will get justice, no matter how long this takes.
I'm sorry for your loss.
And the same for Melanie. She clearly loved Charles and had her own special relationship with him.
Gerry don't worry like lady said.. I know people in high corrupt places & where ever some of these stupid person end up at for life,,, my friends will give a nice HELLO who's YOUR DADDY NOW??? Get what I'm saying ....I'm mamaseedta......you won't see me but that's the last name you'll hear🐾👣🎱🔫
This whole scenario is like a horror movie I don't think there's ever been a case like this.
Chris Watts mormon, Josh powell, Mormon chad, Lori, Alex Mormons? 🤔
Look at Mormon murderer's Howard Hughes was a victim of Mormons for his money.
Watts was never a Mormon. A deplorable moron, yes, not a mormon thou.
Google Church of the Lamb of God. Also a mormon offshoot. You think this is crazy? You’ll be blown away by that one. Higher body count than any slasher movie I’ve ever seen!
Agreed. This is a case where the truth is stranger then fiction.
I like these guys!!
He looks alot like Charles.
May you find strength to get through this difficult time...glad yinz spook out,thank you.
Yes he does look like Charles. So sad they had to lose him and he said he misses him so much😢 She ruined so many lives.
🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️Vallows and Woodcocks
"Yinz" Are you from Philadelphia?
You can tell those two boys are brothers!!! This couple was a hoot! Great interview Nate!!!
Men lol
God Is The Judge In The End
Great Interview. Shows Great Family
Beth you are McRight lol
Good interview, Nate! It's the first time I've heard Charles' brother speak. So sad to see the sadness and loss that Lori and others created.
Justifiable righteous rage. I have delayed reaction too. Such dignified patience for closure and justice. I pray for peace and comfort for this loving family.
Gerry and Melanie Vallow are good people. I admire the classy way they are handling this terrible injustice to their brother.
All so sad 😞 Took so many people to plead for help before any notice was taken and seriously lives could have been saved if only the police listened to Charles
@eboston7591 Goodness, another comment with NO response. Leena, are you getting bored with this yet? I seem to be about the only person that cares about your comments.
Excellent interview, Nate! I appreciate you. ✌💜💙
Great interview Nate. My condolences go out to the Vallows.
Great interview Nate . Prayers to the Vallow family.
Great Job @Nate Eaton & @East Idaho News. So heartbreaking. Boy, do Charles & brother look alike. Thank you and prayers to all involved in uncovering the truth. Tough, painful unimaginable tragedy
Nate, you have done a fantastic job covering this story. My heart breaks for Charles brother and their entire family as well as Tylee, JJ and Tammy.
I just love this couple!! It's so horrible that his brother never should have died. If only the cops had taken him more seriously and investigated what he was saying to them. So sad! Prayers for this family.
I feel the police should have done more. Maybe they should have been sentenced to
Cops should be sued
@@pennytyson4358 I agree!
Thank you so much Nate.
You are amazing with your interviews ❤
Charles Vallow seemed like such an amazing good hearted human being. It's a shame that his cries for help were ignored. He did everything he could to help Lori even going as far as trying to set up an intervention. May you rest in peace Charles
@eboston7591 broken record.
Oh I like this folks! Im so sorry for their loss and also Nate the prosecution BETTER have a solid case because this demon people can't be out.
Just like his brother said all of this could have been avoided with a better police work.
What!!!! And avoid all that flirting and eye batting Lori was doing??? They were putty in her hands, those cops fell hook line and sinker.
So sorry for their loss. Great interview.
I love Gerry and his wife. They are so real and authentic and down to earth. Great video Nate and excellent coverage East Idaho News of this entire story. The grieving process can take up to 2 years. Elizabeth Kubling Ross wrote the book on grief. Been there done that because my boyfriend was murdered. I can empathize very much.
What wonderful, down to Earth people, that would give you the shirts off their backs.
I’m sorry for your huge loss. Wish I could just hug you both.
my prayers are for this family
Gerry and Melanie...thank u for sharing all this with us viewers. I'm so sorry for ur loss. Charles sounds like a wonderful father. And I agree Lori and Chad should rot in jail forever. And Alex is in hell for what he did.
Nice people
What a sweet couple! My heart breaks for all of the families who have been hurt. Life in prison would be perfect. Then they have nothing for a retrial. God bless all of the family members.
Thank you Gerry & Melanie for sharing with us who Charles was to you and giving a little more insight on who Lori was. Although I do feel that Lori knew how to get what she wanted and how to manipulate men, I also believe she was just as easily manipulated by Chad. I think she truly wanted to believe that she had purpose and that she was more than just some pretty blonde. Unfortunately she took everything Chad fed her to the extreme to believe she was some sort of Goddess, but I just cannot fathom giving up a husband who genuinely loved her, her children, brother or anyone else for someone like Chad. It just baffles me. I pray that she comes out of her little fantasy world soon, realizes what she's done and is held accountable for her actions. In the meantime I'm looking forward to Chad's conviction. I wish I could be a fly on the wall when he faces his judgement day with God, but hopefully I get to witness his judgement day with the Jury. It couldn't come soon enough!
I think Lori had to be a little disturbed before she met Chad Dumbell. She couldn't have have done a 180 like that so quickly. She had evil inside of her from the get go I believe. I wonder how her sister passed away.
@@user-uo4hl4dc4b Everybody close to her has said she began to change once she started reading Chad's books, which is my understanding was a few years before she actually met him. I also believe she suffered from some sort of mental disorder prior to all this. Possibly due to some sort of trauma she endured as a child or young adult? Idk but I believe she developed some sort of fascination with Chad through his books, which amplified once she met him in person and he started feeding her his line of garbage.
I still believe wholeheartedly that Lori and Chud manipulated each other for their own purposes and that Lori is keeping up this act of being delusional so that she still receives understanding and a measure of sympathy from her family and fellow inmates. Can you imagine how they would treat her if she was actually ,for once, honest and they saw her for what she actually has been for years probably, a narcissistic sociopathic , and now serial killer?
I'd love to be a fly on the wall of wherever Lori's and Alex's 'oh so devoted' Niece Melanie is right now..... She must be bricking it!
She always said the truth would be proven, I feel this isn't her interpretation of the truth but it's truth nonetheless.
I really hope she is hauled in to explain herself more.
I hope she's hauled straight to prison for trying to get her ex husband murdered.
I always felt that Melanie knew way more than she was saying. I mean, how do you not push to know where your niece and nephew are unless you already know?
I guess the kids were her cousins. But, still…
God bless these two beautiful people. My heart and prayers go out to you and your family. I could only imagine all that y'all are going through with this and will have to deal with throughout the trials. I truly love that y'all are keeping your focus on God and the love you will always have for an amazing man and beautiful children that were stolen from your lives way too soon. Stay strong and know that one day y'all will definitely see each other again 😘😘😘.
I love the honesty of this family! My heart goes out to them! Great interview!!
Mr. Vallow, I am truly sorry for your loss. You look like your big brother❤️
It’s just so sad for Charles family. I can so relate to how helpless Charles felt with the inability to get mental health help for Lori. I had a mother who was just evil and she was always in a state of craziness that no one could help us to get her help or to try and control her destructive ways. After dealing with my mother for 30 years I could say she wasn’t mentally ill but she was just evil claiming to be mentally ill. She gamed the system from the time she was 20 years old until her death at 74. The day she died was the happiest day of my life unfortunately. It was just such a relief to not have to worry about her trying to kill one of her children or some other innocent person. Prison will be too good for both Lori and Chad but it will be more punishment for them to have to be controlled by someone else so they can’t hurt anyone else.
I think Lori manipulated everyone. Not crazy just EVIL!
We are going through a similar thing. So far nobody is dead, but getting law enforcement and the judicial system to take it seriously is impossible. Our concern has been committed twice and is diagnosed a schizophrenic, yet the judge still thinks this man should be alone with his child. The child, he has made it clear he believes has been programmed with neural dust ( what ever that is). And he wants to deprogram the child. The child is afraid of his dad, yet he has legal rights to take off with the child. We have spent over $80, in court and lawyer fees to protect our child. It took two years to get a temp custody order. We go to court in July and pray they don’t let that man be alone with the child till he is safe.
She's not crazy ,she knew exactly what she was doing she just thought she would never get caught , bet there's more to come on this situation it will all come out in the end and it will be very ugly .
I want to know how niece Melanie is involved!!
The timing of that dog coming into the picture when Gerry starts talking about realizing his brothers death
God Bless everyone affected by the choices made by these two very evil people. I believe justice will be served for JJ, Tylee, Tammy Daybell, and Charles Vallow. Unfortunately, this could've so easily been prevented if law enforcement just listened to Charles to begin with. Much love to the Vallow/Woodcock family, Colby Ryan as well as Annie Cushing.
Good interview! So sad for Charles' family, but glad there will be justice for Charles.
Alex should have been arrested and locked up without bail at the scene. The kids and Tammy may have been spared. The Arizona cops dropped the ball over and over on this case. I hope the family launches a wrongful death suit against them.
I really enjoyed Gerry calling Chad an accurate name and hearing him say that he would love to throat punch Lori!!! These poor people have been through so much, and what they have lost, can never be given back!!! So to hear him speak open and honest, was refreshing!!!
None of those people from Charles right on up to Alex didn't have to die, If that Police department that he first went to for help had paid attention to what he was saying when he was telling them about what Lori was doing, saying & we now know was planning!
Lori created so much devastation to so many people. She's an evil, destructive force who needs to pay together with her accomplices for their crimes. I think she is very fit for trial, all of her dark deeds took a lot of planning and manipulation. She knew exactly what she was doing. My heart is breaking for all the people who loved Charles, Tylee, JJ and Tammy. Justice for all of them.Stay strong.
don’t forget tylee’s dad whom she may have killed for tylee’s social security!
@@teri7371 Nothing can convince me she didn't! What a witch!
What absolutely gorgeous people xx bless their broken hearts. Nate you’re a brilliant journalist your compassion shines through ❤️❤️❤️
I really like this guy interviewing the family and friends.
14:05 is classic! Good for you, Gerry!!👊👊👍👍Thanks, Nate!
Love their frankness.
They are such Humble people and the way they think about Chad Daybell,Lorie, Alex AND Zulema YES Zulema seems like she is like Lorie if not WORST But what THESE PEOPLE did to CHARLES,TAMMY,JJ,TYLEE AND RYAN Didnt have to HAPPEN AT ALL. Chad Daybell and Zulema And Lorie are the EVIL IN THIS WORLD. Melanie & Jerry Your in our Prayers 🙏🙏🥀🥀
Omg I love them! 💜 💜 💜 Sending love and light! 💜
OMG ... I just love Charle's brother .. says as he feels .. good on him ...and he is right Chad is a %$#@&^$
Charles seemed like an excellent man. You could tell that he loved all of the kids. Police body cam showed him very concerned about JJ, Tylee, & even Lori actually. He was scared for them all. Fearful for himself too. I can’t imagine what this family has been through. I’m angry, and I don’t even know anyone. I feel angry about Tammy too. Lori, and Chad are purely evil.
"I don't allow that emotion in my heart"
Good man
A very lovely family 👪. My deepest sympathies for your senseless loss. Praying for peace and very fair outcome of Lori and Chad's hearings.
Such a tragedy for so many. So very sorry for your losses!
My heart goes out to this great family. 💔 This is my hope also,
Prison for life. D.S is just to easy for this kind of Evil.
Sending love to Charles brother and sister inlaw, i had a lump in my throat just listening to them say how they miss Charles alot
How many people have been murdered or swindled and no one connected the dots? If it smells bad, its bad.
Look at Mormon Mafia and God Squad Murders. Mitt Romney let his family the FLDS off with 12 million in food stamp fraud. 😤😤
🙏🙏🙏 For Charles’ whole Family and She will be Judged!
As a dog lover I noticed when Gerry starts to get upset the dog wants to get near him to comfort him❤️🐶
Yepp Gerry is Zep’s person for sure.
Great interview! So sad to see how much pain the brother is going through but he is doing the right thing by speaking out publicly. He really humanized his brother for us and gave us insight into what kind of man Charles was. I hope they find peace somehow.
I believe Lori also shot Charles, that second shot while he laid on the floor, was Lori. Btw, those Vallow genes are strong, Gerry, Charles and Kay look alike.
Ive felt that Lori was also involved in the physical act of the murder with Alex and/or Chad of her children, too.
Yes, they sure do ❤ lovely people
She has a physical alibi. She was shopping at Target with Tylee and JJ. Dropped JJ off at school. Then returned to Charles house with Tylee. Police were called around 8:30am so the murder happened very early in the morning.
@@Kelly-rt4kz I have listened to them all..the Jan.31 , 2019 was the one, that blew me away. The first time when the children were missing, I stopped listening because that certain one was too strange.After the children were found , I went back and listened too her description of what happened a few more times......I was in shock for a long time... Im still 😮
@@user-hg4bd2de8p Not really, not now, Charles lay there dying for 43 minutes before Alex called 911. He was shot before Lori and Tylee left.
I keep thinking I’m done crying over this case, but the waves keep breaking. Gerry and Melanie are so kind and did not deserve this senseless tragedy. Charles tried so hard to get help, for himself, his children, and even for Lori, who he loved. He came from good people and was a good, honorable man. 🌹🌹🌹
I can’t imagine the pain. 🙏🏻you guys are awesome! Thanks Nate.
The resemblance between Gerry and Charles is crazy! I’m so glad Charles will finally get his justice!!
What a great nice couple. I feel bad that they are hurting ... they miss him terribly. Sending them my love.
May God bless these people!
Blessings to all the Vallow family. I hope that there is justice for Charles Vallow’s murder.
Gerry & Melanie speaking the absolute truth! Hope AZ can bring them Justice for Charles.
Great hearing from Gerry and Melanie. Praying for them and their family 🙏❤ Thanks for interviewing them Nate! I hope you get an award after all of this. You're doing an outstanding job! I'm very impressed with your professionalism , compassion and drive to bring us the truthful information and updates ever since this case started.
What a lovely couple. They are missing Charles sooo much but must live through trials of Chad & Lori. I wish them good in life.
I love this good old boy .....
What a great brothet.......
Sorry for your loss, sorry for delay which could’ve possibly saved many lives.
Omg he looks just like Charles
Right? Those smiling cheeks are so sweet. 😢
Nate Eaton… we can always count on you to provide these meaningful interviews. Thank you! Charles brother and sister-in-law are beautiful people.