Small bit of info for newer players: for aiming the flux grenade, remember IT DOES NOT FOLLOW AN ARC. It flies straight as a bullet and it is extremely fast.
You're very welcome! I figured out a while back that I wasn't going to keep up with the fulltime UA-camrs, so just focus on what interests me...which usually ends up being the "niche" and the "obscure". 😂🍻
Flash bangs that jolt are underrated for anything with champions I don't think I've ever seen anyone with them apart from me 😂 Edit: jolt for overloads
I've been using a blind sort of build for over a year now on my Arc Titan. People sleep on it and now with Fist of Havoc getting a damage buff and faster recharge, it's going to be even more fun.
@@giantslayer9335 this right here. Titans were the undisputed kings of volatile, Hunters now have much easier time accessing volatile rounds non-stop. Warlock also got Icarus Dash, which is just a repackaged Titan exotic perk (Twilight Garrison).
D2 Vanilla and even D1 striker titan were well known for their grenades and grenade generation. Until Twilight Garrison it was extremely common to see an armamentarium titan with lightning grenades. I also don’t think it would be fair if Warlock was the only class in the game that could specialize in grenades, seeing as they have the strand, solar, and void grenade augments.
@ that’s a good point as well. You can even see it with melee. Warlock and Hunter also have potent melee builds, but (with the notable exception of Arcstrider) they work a lot differently. Thats how they should be designed
5 test runs per grenade is commendable. Thank you ironworker! This was strictly a damage test video, but I thought i could add that flashbangs stun unstoppable champions. Great for utility. No one uses skips because they were almost exclusive to pvp at one point, but shinobus vow made them usable in pve. I would say their strength is being able to spam them when you build into them. Not crazy spamming like pre nerf, but they're still pretty fun to toss lol
Well, good work testing. Thanks! i'd like to add something for FULL GUIDE: - missed arc moth grenades! From hunter's Mothkeeper' wraps. :) - comparison arc grenade with exotics for Arc subclass and Prismatic subclass (Inmost light + Verity bro). PS. My favorit build was titans armamentarium with 2 pulse nades and mods like kikcstart - fast energy return and champ melting. Good for demolitionist rockets!
You're very welcome! Once my subclass grenade damage testing videos are done, I was thinking about putting a video together about the grenade focused exotics. 👍👍
Absolutely! I had one ready to go for the end screen of the Void Grenade video as well...but I honestly forgot to put it in.😅 I did post it up on the channels community section though if you're looking for it. 👍👍
Skip grenade is kind of mixed bag because by default it really isn't a great grenade, but it's a good utility for applying jolt to multiple targets, or annoying targets that move fast like overloads. However when you give it the Shinobu's vow arms on the hunter, they become probably my favorite arc grenade. 2 charges, absolutely crazy tracking on them, and you get up to 50% of the energy back if all submunitions hit something, meaning you get 3 back to back grenades on a full charge. Honestly one of my favorite hunter builds by far.
That does make sense! As I'm sure you know, I'm not extremely well versed in the ways of the Hunter, but the grenade does have some nice benefits baked in with Shinobu's! 😁👍
Last time I checked that WAS what Shinobou's was like 2 nerfs ago. I do the math on it every time i try it out, the max energy you can get back on a grenade is 43% I do agree it is pretty great at jolting multiple targets, especially those teleporting overloads
Just a personal opinion as a hunter main, I don't like most of the arc grenades. I don't know why I don't like flashbang grenade, especially since in other games I absolutely love flash grenades. IDK maybe if it was shaped like a flashbang instead of a baseball I'd like it more. Skip grenades are pretty weak and Bungie just wouldn't stop nerfing them and Shinobou's vow, and now I just don't like them. Arcbolt is probably fine, but I just can't bring myself to like them ever since Bungie " *buffed* " lucky raspberry, and those are just inextricably linked for me. (it was 100% a huge nerf and you can't convince me otherwise) I don't think I've ever used lightning grenade without touch of thunder. maybe I would if the cooldown was a little faster. Flux Grenade takes *forever* and last time I checked it doesn't even 1 shot in pvp like its supposed to. Hunters could REALLY use an exotic revolving around flux. I liked flux way better when it was more like fusion and mag (in both tracking and cooldown) Pulse and Storm: 👍 still kinda liked old storm 'nade better, the inconsistency with a short cooldown, high potential dmg and lingering effect was peak for me.
For lightning nades, I find they shine best either in Raid DPS or PvP, where in both you can stick the two nades to the walls around the target & they tend to not move out of the way. (example, Templar/Warpriest/Tanniks/pimple oger from Kings Fall) Though if they do AoE damage frequently they tend to break your nades.
Great work!!! I hope in solar you look at TTI time to ignition where grenade animation aids or harms other forms of direct scorch... Essentially which grenades complement melee, rift, and Dragon’s Breath..
Thank you very much! I'll definitely try to provide a sense on how quickly the Scorch is being applied and at what point the Ignition occurs. Hopefully that will help out with your figuring. 👍👍
I'm 99% sure Bungie changes the Pulse Grenades Jolt because it would proc Jolt on the second hit and so it couldn't stun Overloads because they would teleport away. They moved it to the initial hit which is probably why you got that extra Jolt!
For some of these grenades I feel that rubbing my wool socks across the carpet is a better option. Here again we have several options for grenades but no real reason to use them other than style. Might as well keep using them as tasty shocktarts for a good Getaway Artist build.
YOU MISSED A GRENADE!! The Arc Moth grenade provided by Mothkeepers Wraps! I would love to see what kind of damage it does in comparison to the others!
I tend to steer clear of testing specific Exotics in this videos, but once I get caught up on all the subclasses, I'll probably start getting into some of the Exotic options. We can certainly have a look at it then! 😁👍
Hahaha. Indeed. It does seem to be a staple of many Warlock's Prismatic builds. After the subclass damage testing is done with, I think I'm going to make a video looking at all the "grenade focused" exotics. 👍👍
Would you ever consider doing this for melees or supers? Even as someone with thousands of hours on this game I somehow always learn from these vids so more is always appreciated!
I'm really happy to hear that! I'll give testing other abilities some thought. I know there are a lot of Super damage test videos floating around, but melees could be rather interesting! 👍👍
I feel like skip grenade is suffering from the same thing chaos accelerant, T-crash, and a few other specific abilities are suffering from: the ability was the spawn of satin in pvp and/or pve for a while so since its highs were so high it took double and triple nerfs for it being good in certain combos so now the ability relies on kits being fully built around it to barely be worth using. That's without considering the general power creep of newer things getting things to make you want to use it over the old.
Unfortunately the Lightning Grenade does not stick to enemies, and I do not test exotics in these videos. I may release a video at a later date that solely focuses on the "grenade exotics". 👍👍
Unfortunately, only "directional" grenade that can pull that off is the Tripmine. The Lightning Grenade, and the Void Spike just bounce off the enemy and fall to the ground. 👍👍
Do you not see max damage from the mine-like grenades (Spike, Lightning, Tripmine) from just sticking them to the target directly? I can't speak on Lightning or Spike, but that's definitely how it works for Tripmine
Unfortunately, the Tripmine is the only one of the three that can pull that off. The Lighting Grenade and the Void Spike just bounce off and fall to the ground. 👍👍
Pulse grenades seem to be better than vortex grenades in every way except duration. They have a shorter cooldown, more damage, and seemingly better return on investment. Based on the numbers in this vid and the last, if you give pulse grenades jolt and vortex nades weaken then pulses are doing that 91,620 dmg and vortexs are doing 64,042.35 dmg. If you add on Chaos Accelerant and Echo of Remnant that brings it up to 114,515.85 dmg. But spark of magnitude brings pulses up to 127,279. You don't even have to use touch of thunder to beat a vortex grenade you invested everything into. I've got a feeling the solar grenade is going to outdo vortex's damage as well. It might be crazy to say that vortex grenades need a buff, but at the very least chaos accelerant does.
I can definitely get behind Chaos Accelerant needing a buff! Void Grenades have historically been the weakest of the bunch. I would guess that Bungie has decided to keep the damage subdued because of their overall consistency (non-proximity based damage). It certainly would be nice to see some of them brought up though. Like you pointed out, you gotta jump though hoops just to the the Vortex Grenade on par with a base Pulse Grenade. The discrepancy feels too drastic. 👍👍
Wouldn’t it make more sense to test without Spark of Shock? Usually you’re also shooting the enemy when you throw a grenade at them, so you’d still be getting the Jolt procs off of even the single hit ones due to your weapons
Can't wait for you to try out Shinobus vow. "Improves skip grenade, blah blah blah." Would love to know how that works out. Also! And this it the important one, lucky raspberry. How does that thing work and does it work with prismatic? I'm not noticing it working at all with prismatic. Maybe I'm just oblivious to what's happening.
Lucky Raspberry works on arc and prismatic, you get grenade energy for every instance of jolt dealing damage, so you want to either have the fragment that makes your arc grenades jolt, or a voltshot/jolting feedback weapon. Every time jolt deals damage youll get a chunk of grenade energy. Edit: Must be Arcbolt grenades, as per exotic
@YoursadowTTV which is odd because raspberry insinuate it adds jolt but doesn't. Then, I didn't notice much of a difference in gains. As I said, maybe I'm oblivious.
@@TheGraffiti600rr it makes arc bolts stun overloads, but it does not add jolt on its own. With a jolt effect applied however, every time jolt activates damage you'll get ~20% of an arcbolt back. Easily 100% jolt uptime on high health targets. It's arguably better in high difficulty than low due to jolt killing everything too quickly in low end content. So I highly recommend bringing a voltshot gun in low end content or a jolting feedback in medium/high end content to constant have jolt applied to targets.
I did testing, on prismatic and arc, as long as you have arcbolt it works the same. damaging with arcbolt gives you 15% of your grenade back, and gives and additional 15% when you trigger a jolt, note that the target has to survive the jolt proc, with an about .5 sec cooldown on returning energy. and 10% when you pick up an arc trace. Unless you are damaging high health targets, you won't see much results, but it is REALLY good at dealing with overloads that you just can't quite seem to kill on your own. Compared to the old lucky raspberry which was 25% grenade energy per enemy chained and a 25% chance to fully refund your grenade, basically as long as you hit 2 or more enemies, you basically got your grenade back. 100% a nerf and you CANNOT convince me otherwise.
Amazing video as always, brother!😎🍻 Update: I'll be back on this coming week so I'll definitely hit you up if you ain't to busy! I hope that everything is going well with you and continue making that amazing content, brother🍻🍻
Thank you very much man! Feel free to reach out if you see me on. There are times where I'm AFK and just sitting in orbit, so I apologize in advance if I miss you. 😅 I should be around though! 👍👍
Yes. That's actually where I have to test the grenade initially to get an accurate number. Afterwards, I try them out in PvE and watch for any inconsistencies, but they all do seem to preform the same in regards to reach and radius on both sides of the game. 👍🍻
Once I get caught up on the general subclass testing, I'll probably dive into some of the grenade focused exotics. Verity's is certainly on that we'll have a look at! 👍👍
While I don't test specific Exotics for these videos, I am thinking about making a "grenade exotics" video at some point, in which, I would certainly include it. 👍👍
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Small bit of info for newer players: for aiming the flux grenade, remember IT DOES NOT FOLLOW AN ARC. It flies straight as a bullet and it is extremely fast.
Very true! That grenade definitely has some zip on it! 👍👍
i usually ads my weapon when i throw it😂
It does NOT go in a straight line. The projectile speed just makes the grenade travel further before losing height.
Always nice to see Ironworker crunching the numbers on the less talked about stuff. Thanks for your effort!
You're very welcome! I figured out a while back that I wasn't going to keep up with the fulltime UA-camrs, so just focus on what interests me...which usually ends up being the "niche" and the "obscure". 😂🍻
@@IronworkerGaming Well, your videos are insightful and helpful. Thanks!
Flash bangs that jolt are underrated for anything with champions I don't think I've ever seen anyone with them apart from me 😂
Edit: jolt for overloads
I figured out they blinded unstoppables and now I permanently run them on any arc hunter build. They are just so cool.
I've been using a blind sort of build for over a year now on my Arc Titan. People sleep on it and now with Fist of Havoc getting a damage buff and faster recharge, it's going to be even more fun.
They can be extremely useful! I would figure most shy away from it due to the lack of damage, but the utility is fantastic! 👍👍
I do, and blind myself regularly
I've been using Blind nades for years now. They are so much more useful than the other grenades.
I appreciate that you put out reliable testing. Well presented, too.
Always great to hear from you, and I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed the video! 😁👍
I must admit that the pulse grenade is my favourite, and I will now equip the fragment to go with it. Thank you for all the hard work you have done.
Absolutely man! The Pulse grenade has been "old reliable" for me. It's really well rounded and can crank out some nice damage when you need it to! 👍👍
Love how warlock was the arc grenadier until 3.0 killed that for them.
Right!? As someone who spends almost all of their time on Warlock...I'm still a little bitter about that! 😅🍻
Titans used to be the support class in D1/Vanilla D2. Then Well came.
Every class has gotten stuff from the others. That’s Light 3.0 for ya.
@@giantslayer9335 this right here. Titans were the undisputed kings of volatile, Hunters now have much easier time accessing volatile rounds non-stop. Warlock also got Icarus Dash, which is just a repackaged Titan exotic perk (Twilight Garrison).
D2 Vanilla and even D1 striker titan were well known for their grenades and grenade generation. Until Twilight Garrison it was extremely common to see an armamentarium titan with lightning grenades.
I also don’t think it would be fair if Warlock was the only class in the game that could specialize in grenades, seeing as they have the strand, solar, and void grenade augments.
@ that’s a good point as well. You can even see it with melee.
Warlock and Hunter also have potent melee builds, but (with the notable exception of Arcstrider) they work a lot differently. Thats how they should be designed
Thanks for redoing these damage tests. I'm trying to find a viable alternative to Prismatic Titan's HoiL+Synthos Consecration spam.
You're very welcome! I hope the info in the video helped out! 😁👍
5 test runs per grenade is commendable. Thank you ironworker!
This was strictly a damage test video, but I thought i could add that flashbangs stun unstoppable champions. Great for utility.
No one uses skips because they were almost exclusive to pvp at one point, but shinobus vow made them usable in pve. I would say their strength is being able to spam them when you build into them. Not crazy spamming like pre nerf, but they're still pretty fun to toss lol
You're quite welcome! The testing is not a terribly exciting process, but is one that I'm happy to do! 😁🍻
Well, good work testing. Thanks!
i'd like to add something for FULL GUIDE:
- missed arc moth grenades! From hunter's Mothkeeper' wraps. :)
- comparison arc grenade with exotics for Arc subclass and Prismatic subclass (Inmost light + Verity bro).
PS. My favorit build was titans armamentarium with 2 pulse nades and mods like kikcstart - fast energy return and champ melting. Good for demolitionist rockets!
You're very welcome! Once my subclass grenade damage testing videos are done, I was thinking about putting a video together about the grenade focused exotics. 👍👍
thanks for that ending one page infographic
Absolutely! I had one ready to go for the end screen of the Void Grenade video as well...but I honestly forgot to put it in.😅 I did post it up on the channels community section though if you're looking for it. 👍👍
Skip grenade is kind of mixed bag because by default it really isn't a great grenade, but it's a good utility for applying jolt to multiple targets, or annoying targets that move fast like overloads. However when you give it the Shinobu's vow arms on the hunter, they become probably my favorite arc grenade. 2 charges, absolutely crazy tracking on them, and you get up to 50% of the energy back if all submunitions hit something, meaning you get 3 back to back grenades on a full charge. Honestly one of my favorite hunter builds by far.
That does make sense! As I'm sure you know, I'm not extremely well versed in the ways of the Hunter, but the grenade does have some nice benefits baked in with Shinobu's! 😁👍
Last time I checked that WAS what Shinobou's was like 2 nerfs ago. I do the math on it every time i try it out, the max energy you can get back on a grenade is 43%
I do agree it is pretty great at jolting multiple targets, especially those teleporting overloads
Just a personal opinion as a hunter main, I don't like most of the arc grenades.
I don't know why I don't like flashbang grenade, especially since in other games I absolutely love flash grenades. IDK maybe if it was shaped like a flashbang instead of a baseball I'd like it more.
Skip grenades are pretty weak and Bungie just wouldn't stop nerfing them and Shinobou's vow, and now I just don't like them.
Arcbolt is probably fine, but I just can't bring myself to like them ever since Bungie " *buffed* " lucky raspberry, and those are just inextricably linked for me. (it was 100% a huge nerf and you can't convince me otherwise)
I don't think I've ever used lightning grenade without touch of thunder. maybe I would if the cooldown was a little faster.
Flux Grenade takes *forever* and last time I checked it doesn't even 1 shot in pvp like its supposed to. Hunters could REALLY use an exotic revolving around flux. I liked flux way better when it was more like fusion and mag (in both tracking and cooldown)
Pulse and Storm: 👍 still kinda liked old storm 'nade better, the inconsistency with a short cooldown, high potential dmg and lingering effect was peak for me.
That all makes perfect sense to me. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts! 👍👍
From a Warlock's end of things I can agree. I do like Lightning but Pulse seems to be the Go To for those of us without the means to boost the damage.
Thank you for your hard work.
You're very welcome! Hope you enjoyed the video! 👍🍻
I absolutely love flux grenades! Great video!
Thank you very much! The Flux Grenade can be a great pocket nuke! 👍👍
For lightning nades, I find they shine best either in Raid DPS or PvP, where in both you can stick the two nades to the walls around the target & they tend to not move out of the way. (example, Templar/Warpriest/Tanniks/pimple oger from Kings Fall)
Though if they do AoE damage frequently they tend to break your nades.
I can’t wait to see what solar brings. Thank you for the video brother.🍻
Absolutely man! Always great to hear from you! 😁👍
Hope you feel better, my man!
I really appreciate it! 👍🍻
Will always appreciate the work that you do. Thanks!
I really appreciate that man, and it's always great to hear from you! 😁👍
Pulse Grenade supremacy
As someone who rarely strays off of my Warlock, that has been my preferred grenade over the years! 👍👍
Immediate sub for the thoughtful testing and explanations ❤
I really appreciate that, and I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed the video! 😁🍻
Great work!!! I hope in solar you look at TTI time to ignition where grenade animation aids or harms other forms of direct scorch... Essentially which grenades complement melee, rift, and Dragon’s Breath..
Thank you very much! I'll definitely try to provide a sense on how quickly the Scorch is being applied and at what point the Ignition occurs. Hopefully that will help out with your figuring. 👍👍
I'm 99% sure Bungie changes the Pulse Grenades Jolt because it would proc Jolt on the second hit and so it couldn't stun Overloads because they would teleport away.
They moved it to the initial hit which is probably why you got that extra Jolt!
Ahhh! That would explain things! I appreciate the intel! 👍🍻
Thanks for the video I love damage numbers✌️
Glad to hear it, and I appreciate you taking the time to check out the video! 😁🍻
Fellow ironworker, (rod buster) in Ohio. Love your videos, my man!
@@joesmedley9546 Ayee!! Always great running into another Ironworker on here! I'm right next door working out of Local 3! 👍🏻🍻
Veritys brow with flux grenades is one of my favorite lost sector builds. Nuke champs.
That really is a great setup for getting rid of enemies that need to be disposed of immediately! 😂👍
For some of these grenades I feel that rubbing my wool socks across the carpet is a better option. Here again we have several options for grenades but no real reason to use them other than style. Might as well keep using them as tasty shocktarts for a good Getaway Artist build.
Hahaha, I hear ya! There is a pretty big disparity between the ones at the top, and the ones at the bottom. 👍🍻
YOU MISSED A GRENADE!! The Arc Moth grenade provided by Mothkeepers Wraps! I would love to see what kind of damage it does in comparison to the others!
I tend to steer clear of testing specific Exotics in this videos, but once I get caught up on all the subclasses, I'll probably start getting into some of the Exotic options. We can certainly have a look at it then! 😁👍
Ahh you missing the funny arc grenade meta right now on warlock xD "Getaway"
Keep up good work :3
Hahaha. Indeed. It does seem to be a staple of many Warlock's Prismatic builds. After the subclass damage testing is done with, I think I'm going to make a video looking at all the "grenade focused" exotics. 👍👍
Would you ever consider doing this for melees or supers? Even as someone with thousands of hours on this game I somehow always learn from these vids so more is always appreciated!
I'm really happy to hear that! I'll give testing other abilities some thought. I know there are a lot of Super damage test videos floating around, but melees could be rather interesting! 👍👍
I feel like skip grenade is suffering from the same thing chaos accelerant, T-crash, and a few other specific abilities are suffering from: the ability was the spawn of satin in pvp and/or pve for a while so since its highs were so high it took double and triple nerfs for it being good in certain combos so now the ability relies on kits being fully built around it to barely be worth using. That's without considering the general power creep of newer things getting things to make you want to use it over the old.
That does make sense. 👍👍
Wait what about the damage when you stick the lightning grenade on the enemy? Or exotics like lucky raspberry, or shinobu’s vow?
Unfortunately the Lightning Grenade does not stick to enemies, and I do not test exotics in these videos. I may release a video at a later date that solely focuses on the "grenade exotics". 👍👍
I just want to ask something, Why do you not stick the lightning grenade onto the boss?, wouldn't that guarantee the max dmg?
Unfortunately, only "directional" grenade that can pull that off is the Tripmine. The Lightning Grenade, and the Void Spike just bounce off the enemy and fall to the ground. 👍👍
Do you not see max damage from the mine-like grenades (Spike, Lightning, Tripmine) from just sticking them to the target directly? I can't speak on Lightning or Spike, but that's definitely how it works for Tripmine
Unfortunately, the Tripmine is the only one of the three that can pull that off. The Lighting Grenade and the Void Spike just bounce off and fall to the ground. 👍👍
Good video 👍
Thank you very much! Glad to hear that you enjoyed it! 👍🍻
10/10 content
Glad to hear that you think so! 👍👍
are you going to do the same for prismatic?
I will indeed! 👍👍
Juggernaut in PvE is based af bro 🍻
I will say, it was quite nice for speeding through the engram collection process every time! 👍👍
Will you ever test darkness grenades
Yes I will. It have a small tangent grenade video releasing next, but then I'll carry on till all the grenades are tested. 👍👍
does frame rate still affect storm nade damage?
I honestly can't say for certain, but I've always been of the mindset that framerate effects everything in the game to some extent. 👍👍
Pulse grenades seem to be better than vortex grenades in every way except duration. They have a shorter cooldown, more damage, and seemingly better return on investment. Based on the numbers in this vid and the last, if you give pulse grenades jolt and vortex nades weaken then pulses are doing that 91,620 dmg and vortexs are doing 64,042.35 dmg. If you add on Chaos Accelerant and Echo of Remnant that brings it up to 114,515.85 dmg. But spark of magnitude brings pulses up to 127,279. You don't even have to use touch of thunder to beat a vortex grenade you invested everything into.
I've got a feeling the solar grenade is going to outdo vortex's damage as well. It might be crazy to say that vortex grenades need a buff, but at the very least chaos accelerant does.
I can definitely get behind Chaos Accelerant needing a buff! Void Grenades have historically been the weakest of the bunch. I would guess that Bungie has decided to keep the damage subdued because of their overall consistency (non-proximity based damage). It certainly would be nice to see some of them brought up though. Like you pointed out, you gotta jump though hoops just to the the Vortex Grenade on par with a base Pulse Grenade. The discrepancy feels too drastic. 👍👍
It doesn't help that Void was the first Light 3.0. Bungie hasn't given us a proper fix for this since then.
So what youre saying is armamentarium + pulse grenades + delicate tomb. Got it
Wouldn’t it make more sense to test without Spark of Shock? Usually you’re also shooting the enemy when you throw a grenade at them, so you’d still be getting the Jolt procs off of even the single hit ones due to your weapons
Can't wait for you to try out Shinobus vow. "Improves skip grenade, blah blah blah." Would love to know how that works out. Also! And this it the important one, lucky raspberry. How does that thing work and does it work with prismatic? I'm not noticing it working at all with prismatic. Maybe I'm just oblivious to what's happening.
I'll take a quick look at it when I get a chance, and get back to you on it. 👍👍
Lucky Raspberry works on arc and prismatic, you get grenade energy for every instance of jolt dealing damage, so you want to either have the fragment that makes your arc grenades jolt, or a voltshot/jolting feedback weapon. Every time jolt deals damage youll get a chunk of grenade energy.
Edit: Must be Arcbolt grenades, as per exotic
@YoursadowTTV which is odd because raspberry insinuate it adds jolt but doesn't. Then, I didn't notice much of a difference in gains. As I said, maybe I'm oblivious.
@@TheGraffiti600rr it makes arc bolts stun overloads, but it does not add jolt on its own.
With a jolt effect applied however, every time jolt activates damage you'll get ~20% of an arcbolt back. Easily 100% jolt uptime on high health targets. It's arguably better in high difficulty than low due to jolt killing everything too quickly in low end content. So I highly recommend bringing a voltshot gun in low end content or a jolting feedback in medium/high end content to constant have jolt applied to targets.
I did testing, on prismatic and arc, as long as you have arcbolt it works the same.
damaging with arcbolt gives you 15% of your grenade back, and gives and additional 15% when you trigger a jolt, note that the target has to survive the jolt proc, with an about .5 sec cooldown on returning energy. and 10% when you pick up an arc trace.
Unless you are damaging high health targets, you won't see much results, but it is REALLY good at dealing with overloads that you just can't quite seem to kill on your own.
Compared to the old lucky raspberry which was 25% grenade energy per enemy chained and a 25% chance to fully refund your grenade, basically as long as you hit 2 or more enemies, you basically got your grenade back.
100% a nerf and you CANNOT convince me otherwise.
Amazing video as always, brother!😎🍻 Update: I'll be back on this coming week so I'll definitely hit you up if you ain't to busy! I hope that everything is going well with you and continue making that amazing content, brother🍻🍻
Thank you very much man! Feel free to reach out if you see me on. There are times where I'm AFK and just sitting in orbit, so I apologize in advance if I miss you. 😅 I should be around though! 👍👍
I definitely will, man! And feel free to reach out to me if you ever need anything as well! Raids, strikes, dungeons, or anything at all!
Can I safely assume the radius for these grenades are the same in pvp ?
Yes. That's actually where I have to test the grenade initially to get an accurate number. Afterwards, I try them out in PvE and watch for any inconsistencies, but they all do seem to preform the same in regards to reach and radius on both sides of the game. 👍🍻
@@IronworkerGaming perfect ! And thanks so much for all these testings I know they take a lot of time and work
Can you do Verity’s Brow Damage Testing?
Once I get caught up on the general subclass testing, I'll probably dive into some of the grenade focused exotics. Verity's is certainly on that we'll have a look at! 👍👍
Comment to boost engagement. Love your shiiiiiit.
I really appreciate it man! Always great to hear from you! 😁🍻
You could add lucky raspberry btw
While I don't test specific Exotics for these videos, I am thinking about making a "grenade exotics" video at some point, in which, I would certainly include it. 👍👍
Hello skip nade main here. There is no selling, it’s just bad lmao. Even with shinobu’s vow, it just doesnt do damage
Haha, noted! I wasn't sure if there was some secret about it that I wasn't aware of because the total damage that it carries is...ouff. 😂👍
I really need to switch back to Titan
I have a skip grenade build that abuses the damaga
Nice
W VIDEO
Glad to hear that you think so! 👍🍻
Arcbolt nade is total shite
Please change hunter's pris nade into skip nade....