WHO WOULD WIN IF EVERY CLASS FOUGHT AT LEVEL 1?

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 479

  • @cinderschitt
    @cinderschitt Місяць тому +2639

    Fighters when there's a fight contest:

    • @mattheusfinco
      @mattheusfinco Місяць тому +28

      fighters get destroyed in this challenge

    • @felixtpholm9377
      @felixtpholm9377 Місяць тому +114

      @@mattheusfincowdym he won

    • @cinderschitt
      @cinderschitt Місяць тому +125

      @mattheusfinco Matt when he sees the fighter be the best at fighting: 😱

    • @dragoknight589
      @dragoknight589 Місяць тому +29

      Sorcerers when there's a sorcer contest:

    • @gramfero
      @gramfero Місяць тому +49

      ​@@mattheusfincoim no scientist, but I'd wager that the fighter would be pretty good at fighting

  • @chicken_pox_pie
    @chicken_pox_pie Місяць тому +1926

    As a spellcaster, going instantly from MVP to running a circle for dear life when your slots run out is very relatable.

    • @PleasentDddd
      @PleasentDddd Місяць тому +52

      My artificer running out of slots turns into a melee fighter.
      To be fair most of my slots went into healing, vortex warp, and feather fall.
      My party isn’t the brightest.

    • @KW-tx6er
      @KW-tx6er Місяць тому +14

      Meanwhile warlock blasting all time eldrich blasts left and right

    • @DillyTheWillyWilliams
      @DillyTheWillyWilliams Місяць тому +4

      Barb or warlock. Cleric with spell slots owns

    • @mauigonz
      @mauigonz Місяць тому +1

      And then asking the party for a Long Rest so you can fire again

    • @stm7810
      @stm7810 Місяць тому

      @@PleasentDddd mine pulls out a gun, then again I usually play games where guns are actually guns.

  • @donovanpettice3933
    @donovanpettice3933 Місяць тому +1174

    I love the image of just using inflict wounds and just eroding someones body from the inside out like a badass but not a second later they realize "well crud that's all I have" and needing to run away in full sprint

    • @bubbly_ghost
      @bubbly_ghost Місяць тому +71

      God said only 1 evisceration today

    • @donovanpettice3933
      @donovanpettice3933 Місяць тому +27

      All of this followed by Pearl who walked through this tournament like a terminater and just crushed her skull like it was nothing

  • @GNAWINGWAFFLES
    @GNAWINGWAFFLES Місяць тому +214

    I find it rather amusing that instead of having the 11 clearly powerful people all go complete the task, he just tells them to kill each other for his amusement.

  • @TaCo0oCaT
    @TaCo0oCaT Місяць тому +543

    Hmm, I guess the character who doesn’t get targeted wins

    • @ysgramortheelfkiller2328
      @ysgramortheelfkiller2328 Місяць тому +15

      Well that may be true, but I think that since fighters have good AC and decent HP compared to most at low level. and most classes such as casters dont have that unlimited power yet, while melee does make at least a good strike without spell slots needed. I suppose fighters were still good candidates.

    • @keenren7873
      @keenren7873 Місяць тому +1

      @@ysgramortheelfkiller2328 hexblades could be really strong due to it being a melee class that could do spell attacks with its melee modifier

    • @ysgramortheelfkiller2328
      @ysgramortheelfkiller2328 Місяць тому +1

      @@keenren7873 well I am certainly not the one to question. I have trying to start playing dnd for months but due to not finding proper time or group, I stick to spending my free time seeing dnd content whenever I can.

  • @MrDorkbot
    @MrDorkbot Місяць тому +455

    Smurfette killed 3 of them she was clearly the best of the bunch.

    • @BurglarBird
      @BurglarBird Місяць тому +85

      she killed four, the bard, the wizard, the druid and the paladin

    • @wolfyblackknight8321
      @wolfyblackknight8321 Місяць тому +12

      not to be rude but she was clearly a glass cannon sure she had good damage output but she ran out of gas pretty fast and it took a level 1 fighter 1 round to just take her out of the fight if anything the fighter just shows that having good ac and hit points (even if he didn't get hurt at all) is pretty useful since if Smurfette lost in the initiative she could of gotten bodied before even getting a spell off.
      granted for the joke yeah she did well above average but this is dnd where stuff is very random one day your getting a killstreak of 5 and the next your getting knocked out with a floating bell a chair leg and a bird flying into your head talons first

    • @sarahharuka2811
      @sarahharuka2811 3 дні тому

      I think that she would probably have won if the paladin went for the fighter instead of her, she lost just because got too focused down, while pretty much no one even tried to attack the fighter, very easy for the fighter when no one even tried to hit you

  • @skittlesilly
    @skittlesilly Місяць тому +124

    it's crazy how unbalanced the new warlock familiars are
    like, the spinx of wonder he had no clue was had like 24 HP and magic resistance while the skeleton familiar has half that and no abilities

    • @camd2610
      @camd2610 Місяць тому +3

      Tbf, he can wear armor

    • @notsochosenone5669
      @notsochosenone5669 Місяць тому +10

      Skeleton have proficiencies with shortbow and shortswords, and it is medium-sized creature. So it has some utility - but not in combat (unless you have some good bow to give him).

  • @ZeoffArcaneOfficial
    @ZeoffArcaneOfficial Місяць тому +329

    Now that was some good storytelling.
    Drama, action, bloodshed, all in 10 minutes well spent

  • @Leftists_are_Losers
    @Leftists_are_Losers Місяць тому +703

    Arcane casters who have the spell Sleep…
    The first to cast Sleep can ‘nuke’ and 1st level group easily.

    • @TheLegendaryLegacy
      @TheLegendaryLegacy Місяць тому +76

      Depends greatly on what race everyone is playing cause elf is very popular

    • @dew-it8744
      @dew-it8744 Місяць тому +65

      In 2024, sleep got nerfed so it’s not as OP against low HP targets

    • @geltric4779
      @geltric4779 Місяць тому +36

      Sleep, while by no means a bad spell, wouldn't be very effective in a group pvp like this. You'll hit a small radius of 5-feet and then be unable to capitalize on it.

    • @lostbutfreesoul
      @lostbutfreesoul Місяць тому +28

      ​@@dew-it8744
      This bothers me a little... did they raise the maximum to compensate?
      Sleep was useless at high levels, and if you weaken it at low levels... what does it have left?

    • @nealenthenerd399
      @nealenthenerd399 Місяць тому +2

      The AOE is small and would need to target people with lower Wisdom and hope they don’t save

  • @joydjinn8692
    @joydjinn8692 Місяць тому +343

    So you're telling the class with "fight" in it name won a fight? Who would have though?

    • @tomraineofmagigor3499
      @tomraineofmagigor3499 Місяць тому +21

      It also never got attacked. It would died if it started next to that flamethrower and took 15 damage. Having no attack cantrips on a caster is silly

    • @caurd
      @caurd Місяць тому +3

      There is no way, literally no way, than a fighter lvl 1 defeat a barbarian lvl 1

    • @tomraineofmagigor3499
      @tomraineofmagigor3499 Місяць тому +2

      @caurd don't underestimate stupid rolls

  • @JMSginoclave
    @JMSginoclave Місяць тому +129

    Nothing was learned, but it was fun. I'd watch a similar competition where each contestant took a class, and each battle was a level, no multiclassing.

  • @zackm3782
    @zackm3782 Місяць тому +233

    Fun! You’d need to repeat the experiment a few times to learn anything. Congrats to the winner.

    • @Freekymoho
      @Freekymoho Місяць тому +71

      This specific setup probably wont tell us anything regardless of how many times you run it, because the result is so heavily biased by who runesmith choses to attack, in this case the winner didnt get attacked even once.
      You'd have to set it up as a tournament style series of 1v1's to find out who actually has the strongest level one (its probably barbarian lol)

    • @recurvestickerdragon
      @recurvestickerdragon Місяць тому +5

      big ol punnett square of matchups

    • @DarkMark-cf1ec
      @DarkMark-cf1ec Місяць тому +4

      @@Freekymoho ahh barbarians, constantly ranked as A class while they effectively have double the HP, extra damage and insane criticals. even extra movement speed and forever lasting rage in later levels

    • @patrickmcathey7081
      @patrickmcathey7081 Місяць тому

      The location matters too if you have range the ranger rouge and warlock hold considerable advantage

    • @fusel5883
      @fusel5883 Місяць тому

      @@DarkMark-cf1ec Cause fighting is all they can do. Sure, they are hella good at it, but they cant really do anything besides that to help others or themselves.
      I found Barbarian to be the most boring Class to play as

  • @yamato9753
    @yamato9753 Місяць тому +287

    I love how A Paladin got taken out by a Cleric/Paladin Spell😂
    Inflict Wounds was always my favorite "GET TF AWAY FROM ME" Spell.
    For its level, it hits like a TRUCK, with a nice damage Type.

    • @greenman2166
      @greenman2166 Місяць тому +17

      Not the big spell anymore sadly, only 2d10 now. But that's still enough for a 1st level PC

    • @yamato9753
      @yamato9753 Місяць тому +9

      @greenman2166 Yeah. That's more damage than a Greatsword, with a pretty safe damage option (outside of undead enemies).

    • @sev1120
      @sev1120 Місяць тому +7

      ​@@yamato9753 I mean even taking everything into account the only things that resist or are immune to necrotic are things like super strong angels, high ranking fiends, and even undead most of them resist necrotic, with a relatively small number being outright immune

    • @akedus44
      @akedus44 Місяць тому +5

      Inflict Wounds is also very fun as an NPC spell. But the new monster statblock template with the "spell attack" actions usually makes that redundant nowadays.

    • @Specter_1125
      @Specter_1125 Місяць тому +1

      @@greenman2166it’s half as much on a failed save though, so it’s a bit less frustrating to compensate

  • @ShadeMeadows
    @ShadeMeadows Місяць тому +284

    That's... a very cool question.

  • @Aaronrules380
    @Aaronrules380 Місяць тому +55

    Level 1 characters are all kind of made of paper even for the tankier classes, so it really does just kind of come down to die rolls and initiative. Also not wasting your time doing debuffs or non damaging actions because when pretty much any class can be OHKO with a lucky strike or two set up is just a waste of time.
    In terms of this video, it also felt like the low initiative characters ended up being favored because you tended to attack characters who had already gone much more often (maybe because they were higher up in your mind due to having done something already, maybe to let every class get a chance to do something before dying)

  • @samiamrg7
    @samiamrg7 Місяць тому +15

    As usual, Inflict Wounds is nuts. You just never expect such an unassumingly named spell to rip people in half.

  • @nonenone-hv5iq
    @nonenone-hv5iq Місяць тому +49

    Fighter I bet.

  • @DistortedSemance
    @DistortedSemance Місяць тому +8

    It seems like casting mage armor is a much better use of a spell slot in the long run than maybe killing one or two people with a terrible blast spell.

  • @naz8675
    @naz8675 Місяць тому +26

    Rogue can get sneak attack off due to weapon masteries. Vex is the property on a shortsword so if you opt into that and nick along with twf you can set up sneak attack so long as the attack with the shortsword hits. Great video btw! i love these combat scenarios!

  • @jonathanrobinson319
    @jonathanrobinson319 Місяць тому +29

    I once rolled 5 nat 1 for a dragon.
    What should be an epic fight became a comedy sketch.

    • @thearchives1094
      @thearchives1094 Місяць тому +2

      I was introducing my BBEG for the first time and his first attack was a nat 1. He had his face punched in.....

    • @occasionalart
      @occasionalart 22 дні тому

      Shoutout to my first ever campaign where our bard dealt with a dragon by polymorphing it into a fish and tossing it off a cliff

  • @ColtNomad
    @ColtNomad Місяць тому +116

    Before watching my bet is Barbarian.

    • @ColtNomad
      @ColtNomad Місяць тому +54

      Well I was wrong but holy cow the sorcerer got a whole bunch of people.

    • @my_dude_5742
      @my_dude_5742 Місяць тому +8

      Barb is my guess, or paladin

  • @isafarooq1721
    @isafarooq1721 Місяць тому +5

    When I clicked on this video, I thought it was going to be an in-depth study about which class is most effective at level 1. What I got was so, so much better. I hope you make more of these videos, or even play through an entire campaign by yourself

  • @gabrielrussell5531
    @gabrielrussell5531 Місяць тому +41

    On the subject of people lacking power sources, the subs at 3 was the first big red flag that told me OneD&D would be bad.
    Playtest: "We're looking into standardizing sub progression."
    Feedback: "Standardized subs are a great idea: It means less awkward stretches between sub features (Sorcerer/Rogue) and could allow for class-agnostic subclasses! It should be standardized to start at 1 though."
    Subsequent playtests: "Standardized sub progress is gone, but everyone gets their sub at 3."

    • @Coolified_Gaming
      @Coolified_Gaming Місяць тому +9

      The playerbase: “That is the exact opposite of what we said.”

    • @Coolified_Gaming
      @Coolified_Gaming Місяць тому

      Playerbase: “That is the exact opposite of what we said.”

    • @roguebarbarian9133
      @roguebarbarian9133 Місяць тому +5

      I think they did it that way to give players more time to think about what subclass they want, instead of just thrusting the choice on them at level 1. And you know, the obvious balancing reason of stopping people from potentially having five subclasses at level 5.

    • @notsochosenone5669
      @notsochosenone5669 Місяць тому +3

      Subs at level 1 are bad idea - 1 level dips are big problem with how much they give, so having a subclass on top is stupid idea. Removing multiclassing, or making it heavilly restricted would solve this problem - but 4e did it, and 4e = bad, too anime, too videogamey or something - it is out of the question.
      Book straight up saying to start at level 3 if your group arent newbies anyway (and i personaly never saw a group who starts at level 1 outside of oneshots anyway).

    • @gabrielrussell5531
      @gabrielrussell5531 Місяць тому +3

      @notsochosenone5669 Level 1 subs are fine, it's "a la carte" multiclassing that is bad. OneD&D was a chance to change that and they didn't even consider it.

  • @brickhammer04
    @brickhammer04 Місяць тому +2

    Finally, fighters winning at fighting.
    I love these little “playing dnd by yourself” videos. Would love to see more like this!

  • @tarvoc746
    @tarvoc746 Місяць тому +25

    8:28 - "Ladies and gentlemen, we killed Star Wars."
    - Disney, probably.

  • @ReliableDragon
    @ReliableDragon Місяць тому +2

    These fight videos are super fun, and really unique! It's a very amusing way to showcase parts of the game, and the randomness makes them really entertaining. I hope you keep making these!

  • @alexanderdevega6011
    @alexanderdevega6011 Місяць тому +2

    Way to go, Pearl! I met you 20 years ago as an extremely minor character of a now massive story, but somehow I could never forget you.

  • @Zarkness25
    @Zarkness25 Місяць тому +1

    I did a tournament with the 2024 rules for all 12 classes at level 10. It was a double elimination bracket, and I made and played all the characters (it was sad but a lot of fun). In the end, the Sorcerer won it all.
    I believe a big reason for that is because I had the Sorcerer be a Wild Magic Sorcerer, and honestly the new Wild Magic Sorcerer is low key broken. As long as you have spell slots, you can get advantage on any d20 test, and if you do that you roll on the new, super buffed Wild Magic table

  • @tibot4228
    @tibot4228 Місяць тому +1

    For battle royals, I'd recommend using the character's Dexterity score instead of rolling Initiative: it's a very influential roll and it should be left to the characters' stats.

  • @TechPriest97
    @TechPriest97 Місяць тому +3

    You alerted me to the pact of the chain changes
    The updated quasit is fucking nutty: 25hp, cold/fire/lightning resist, unlimited shapeshifting, unlimited invis, magic resist, poison on attack and a scare per day
    The sphinx isn't bad either: 24hp, magic resist, 1d4+3 plus 2d6 radiant, and "Burst of Ingenuity" +2 to a roll for allies twice a day and it can fly
    They're both the only ones that can speak as well
    edit: Imp as well 21hp, magic resist, devil sight, speech, flight, 1d6+3 plus 2d6 poison, invis and shapeshift

  • @sjhsoccer
    @sjhsoccer Місяць тому +1

    Quick tip, Paladins no longer have to pre-cast smite spells, they can use the bonus action after they have hit.

    • @idofrommer3619
      @idofrommer3619 29 днів тому +1

      And they also don't have concentration

  • @Lukeinthefridge
    @Lukeinthefridge Місяць тому +8

    We learned we need to do this at level 2 now. Also, maybe open up dumb character creation to the community, lol.

  • @Quon_the_Destroyer
    @Quon_the_Destroyer Місяць тому +3

    You anger about these guys missing their attacks was very funny

  • @Unknown-xr1iz
    @Unknown-xr1iz Місяць тому +2

    You should do this but with the 2024 subclasses. Have it be each class per video and then the winner of each video faces the other winners in a grand championship. I think it'd be fun to watch

  • @ditrixgenesis781
    @ditrixgenesis781 Місяць тому +1

    Sorcerer almost winning is incredible. Would love to see a spreadsheet with like 100 trials.

  • @chrisadams1814
    @chrisadams1814 Місяць тому +1

    i now kind of want to see this crew do a dungeon together.

  • @EvelynNdenial
    @EvelynNdenial Місяць тому +6

    i wonder if it actually would be possible to survive this as a full caster. you'd need to keep at range and skirmish. maybe fog cloud and expeditious retreat for the wiz, maybe a tempest cleric in heavy armor with fog cloud and sanctuary (no-one would want to attack you as they're most likely to miss and if they hit they die too). bonus points for making a thunder damage "fog" cloud fart themed cleric to fit in with the goofballs runesmith has assembled here.

  • @everlastingsapling8794
    @everlastingsapling8794 Місяць тому +4

    It’s so funny how the last three fighters all could use fire
    Smurfette and the paladin could use fire spells.
    Pearl could use fire in OP. Neat

  • @alek8516
    @alek8516 Місяць тому +4

    What did we learn? Backgrounds matter now, and that's awesome.

  • @brianroberts783
    @brianroberts783 Місяць тому +1

    The Sphinx of Wonder is actually a really cool little dude. Dungeon Dad has a video about it that he got to make as a preview for the new core books.

  • @josephschubert6561
    @josephschubert6561 Місяць тому +1

    "Prince Nanoc, son of O'Brien" XD it wouldn't be a Runesmith video without the silly names

  • @CornflakeJusticeHD
    @CornflakeJusticeHD Місяць тому +3

    You should have saved this for April Fool's day. All that sweet sweet set up for the punchline. A fabulous video.

  • @BasiliscBaz
    @BasiliscBaz Місяць тому +1

    Skeleton familiar on their way to become main character of their own story

  • @1CrazyFoxx1
    @1CrazyFoxx1 Місяць тому +2

    I fell asleep to this and thought I played d&d instead of going to choir before school, then forgot what my first class was and went to my second class of music class where they were going over d&d alignments.
    I’m 29 by the way

  • @EndermanBoss
    @EndermanBoss Місяць тому +2

    Nice video, I'd watch a series like this. Can you do a "Who would win if every level 3 fighter subclass fought?"

  • @James-kv3ll
    @James-kv3ll Місяць тому +2

    Subclasses should be unlocked at Level 1 for all classes.
    I don’t know why any class ever had to wait for Level 3 especially since sometimes you need to have the right AS to even use a subclass. Like Eldritch Knight.

  • @zinniaferguson461
    @zinniaferguson461 Місяць тому +5

    Finally, proof that Fighter is a good class actually. Thank you, Mr. Runesmith.

    • @clintonbehrends4659
      @clintonbehrends4659 Місяць тому +3

      besides a wizard who's creative, fighter is objectively the best class in the game it can fill any role the martials have and can use any weapon or armor and can has amazing action economy as well as a good selection of subclasses.

    • @feedtheorist9944
      @feedtheorist9944 Місяць тому +3

      @@clintonbehrends4659 theres no way ur fr lol

    • @notsochosenone5669
      @notsochosenone5669 Місяць тому

      @@clintonbehrends4659 "Any role martial have" - so, damage dealer and that's it?

    • @clintonbehrends4659
      @clintonbehrends4659 Місяць тому

      @@feedtheorist9944 A fighter can be
      a ranged weapon user
      a heavy weapon user
      a dex weapon user
      they can cast spells with the elderitch knight subclass
      they have several classes for support
      they can tank
      and a lot more just because there boring doesn't mean they aren't good

    • @clintonbehrends4659
      @clintonbehrends4659 Місяць тому

      @@notsochosenone5669 tanking, altheletics, acrobatics, support if you choose the right subclass, action surge is also good for utility as actions can do a lot
      such as grapple, shove, interact , etc
      no martial in dnd is purely dps unless your uncreative after all if you want to do something in dnd it just needs to be A. possible and plausible B. a good dice roll
      strength and dexterity are used in real life for a LOT of things

  • @chattychatotchannel
    @chattychatotchannel Місяць тому +3

    Haha the sorceress bit was fun while it lasted

  • @dangalfthedruid
    @dangalfthedruid Місяць тому +1

    I love this style of video so much, keep them coming!

  • @dew-it8744
    @dew-it8744 Місяць тому +2

    7:28 how are you rolling 2d9s?

    • @nealenthenerd399
      @nealenthenerd399 Місяць тому +2

      Yeah it should be 3-18 damage as it’s 3d6 I think.

    • @dew-it8744
      @dew-it8744 Місяць тому +1

      @@nealenthenerd399exactly, I was just pointing out a typo

  • @KingCanada1212
    @KingCanada1212 Місяць тому +1

    i could watch thousands of these combat uploads

  • @JMSginoclave
    @JMSginoclave Місяць тому +3

    Off the top of my head, subclasses on level 1 would have a leg-up, like Cleric. Barbarian's HP and Rage probably would make it pretty high up too.

    • @monkeykingw
      @monkeykingw Місяць тому +1

      If we go by the new Handbook, there are no level 1 subclasses

    • @VimyGlide
      @VimyGlide Місяць тому +7

      none of the 2024 classes have subclasses at level 1. that's what all the "godless/oathless/patronless" jokes were making fun of

    • @JMSginoclave
      @JMSginoclave Місяць тому

      Aaand it was using the new edition

  • @vizira_rift_dragon3388
    @vizira_rift_dragon3388 Місяць тому +2

    I injoyed this video. An hope to see more of your ideas for funny little fights like this an the vamper video.

  • @arm279145
    @arm279145 Місяць тому +1

    Clearly what we learned is that sorcerer is the best that level one, but only if you can stay mobile enough to keep out of the range of martial classes

  • @arm279145
    @arm279145 Місяць тому +2

    I’d like to see this at level 2, 3, etc. my guess is sorcerer beats everybody as soon as they can twinspell a firebolt

    • @llamatronian101
      @llamatronian101 Місяць тому +3

      Quickened true strike with a bow seems good too

    • @DistortedSemance
      @DistortedSemance Місяць тому +3

      2024 twin spell only works on spells that can target multiple creatures on an upcast, like Charm Person. Cantrips can't be upcasted.

    • @arm279145
      @arm279145 Місяць тому

      @@DistortedSemance well that’s fucking stupid

  • @salinevaleni7180
    @salinevaleni7180 Місяць тому +1

    That was a very amusing smashathon, thank you.

  • @vibes_VT
    @vibes_VT Місяць тому +1

    that "and you wont put my books on your site" was SO personal

  • @ripleyriley
    @ripleyriley Місяць тому +1

    "Ladies and gentlemen, we've killed Star Wars." If only, Runesmith. If only.

  • @AwsomeO10000
    @AwsomeO10000 Місяць тому +1

    1:21 Lumbridge mentioned!!

  • @paulhermann2956
    @paulhermann2956 Місяць тому

    Honestly this is so educational! You can spruce up Player Characters all you want, but in a flat arena with nothing else going on the combat would still be tedious ;O;

  • @alexanderartz2288
    @alexanderartz2288 Місяць тому +10

    If this were done in a 1v1 tournament style bracket and each player gets a long rest between fights instead…
    The Fighter gets second wind. They can heal themselves after a low damage blow.
    But the Barb has the defense advantage.
    But if the wizard is able to get good rolls on magic missles it’s unblock-able damage.
    Edit: I forgot fighters don’t get action surge till 2nd level my bad.

    • @finth008
      @finth008 Місяць тому

      ​@@monkeykingwthat's what they didn't say anything about action surge

    • @monkeykingw
      @monkeykingw Місяць тому

      @@finth008 They edited their post, it originally said that the Fighter got to make use of the action economy

    • @finth008
      @finth008 Місяць тому

      @@monkeykingw oh okay. Then you're completely right

    • @juamibenito2558
      @juamibenito2558 Місяць тому

      i imagine the pact of the chain warlock summoning a 21 hp invisible flying imp that deals 1d6+3 piercing +2d6 anti-rage poison damage might win against the martials, but lose to turn 1 magic missile/sleep
      honestly having a hard time figuring out who survives 2 casts of magic missile unless you're another spellcaster with shield spell prepped so it turns into cantrip wars

    • @nealenthenerd399
      @nealenthenerd399 Місяць тому

      Would Monk get an offensive advantage with 2 attacks a turn? Basically giving it Extra attack?

  • @tomgymer7719
    @tomgymer7719 Місяць тому +1

    Without having watched any of the video, I'm guessing barbarian. I feel like damage at level one is fairly even, but barbarians can take so much more than anyone else I think they win. Will comment again at the end to see if this has changed.

    • @tomgymer7719
      @tomgymer7719 Місяць тому +4

      Ok, so they basically got hit with damage they didn't resist. I will say, I was thinking from the 2014 version, where paladins and rangers would have no spells, but also, I don't understand your builds man XD How are you determining these stats that a barbarian has such low ac?

    • @victorl.4795
      @victorl.4795 Місяць тому

      ​@@tomgymer7719 Tell me about it. A monk with 14 AC and 9 Hp at lv 1 is very weird to say the least haha. I guess he just randomized for fun 😂

  • @kennpeters1973
    @kennpeters1973 Місяць тому +2

    This was the best 10 minutes I've wasted in ages. I love Runesmith videos so much. Especially when Logan has no real point 😁 They're more fun that way.

  • @FirstLast-cg2nk
    @FirstLast-cg2nk Місяць тому +1

    Who wins the fight? Well, obviously, the guy whose literal job is called "Fighter".

  • @rabbidcreature9681
    @rabbidcreature9681 Місяць тому +1

    What we learned... Spellcasters are super squishy at lv 1 due to low hp, ac, and no defensive spells. melee thanks to damage bonuses, high ac, and hp are actually good. those if this was a lv 20 fight this would be flipped.

  • @rhysjonsmusic
    @rhysjonsmusic Місяць тому

    Was kinda hoping this would've been for 5e
    Would be cool to see how much of an advantage lvl 1 subclasses are aswell as just seeing the Artificer in general

  • @macoppy6571
    @macoppy6571 Місяць тому +1

    Solo, PvP, Wargaming: is this how the Gibbering Mouther cult fed "Pa" last night?

  • @StrifeTheHorseman
    @StrifeTheHorseman 24 дні тому

    Dudes that rolled a nat 1 in this tournament: I don't need to rush. I will still outlive those hasty weaklings.

  • @neb2504
    @neb2504 21 день тому

    My 8th level party did a 1v1 battle bracket earlier this year, which I won pretty handily; turns out Stunning Strike+Flurry of Blows is a very broken combo when there are only 2 combatants.

  • @JazzJackrabbit
    @JazzJackrabbit Місяць тому +10

    1v1? Twilight Cleric, Variant Human with Alert Feat
    Cannot be surprised. Most likely to go first in initiative order. Can then cast sleep, then finish the opponent off with a Crit from a Maul.
    Against elves (who do not sleep), you still have good odds, and can either kite them with a crossbow, or finish them off quick with Inflict Wounds.

    • @nealenthenerd399
      @nealenthenerd399 Місяць тому +15

      This video is primarily 2024 content so VHuman is off the table.
      Also the new Alert doesn’t make you immune to surprise anymore.
      Also Sleep is a Saving throw and a smaller AOE so no promises on how much it works

  • @nosrin1988
    @nosrin1988 Місяць тому

    A free for all is absolutely not how I would have determined who was the best, I'd just individually pit each one against like, 2-3 goblins or something like that and see how well they do in comparison.

  • @alexfirefly1956
    @alexfirefly1956 Місяць тому +2

    I gotta say, for casters to nuke other casters first instead of using their pretty high damaging spells against the martials is… a pretty bad strategy

  • @biohazard724
    @biohazard724 Місяць тому +1

    Fire is hilariously lethal at low levels

  • @Rigel_6
    @Rigel_6 Місяць тому +1

    Whoever it is, definately not wizard because "dies of d4 -insert damage type here-" memes never ged old to me

  • @Ryan2K900
    @Ryan2K900 Місяць тому

    Also I love that the ranger walks into the area, probably with some air of confidence and gets evaporated the moment fighting starts 😆

  • @nillanapier1161
    @nillanapier1161 Місяць тому

    If it's a free for all, probably the rogue, just hide, and wait until the last one is left, tired from fighting everyone else, and backstab them

  • @PandaHatesJuice
    @PandaHatesJuice Місяць тому

    I'd like to have seen this but the characters actually think optimally and for winning/survival. Like when the rogue and cleric were fighting, the cleric was already low - the monk could have moved behind the rogue, killed him and then just had a cleric on death's door to deal with.
    Would have liked some terrain too maybe, so the casters could hide, or the rogue could hide etc. Would have enjoyed seeing people focus the barbarian and paladin first instead of just attacking anyone, because those classes are more likely to win/be impactful. Good video though, enjoyed it c:

  • @DiamondsZ1973
    @DiamondsZ1973 24 дні тому

    very cool and fun video, a sequel to this could be a tournament where each contestant levels up after each fight

  • @MrMovieMisanthrope
    @MrMovieMisanthrope Місяць тому

    Runesmith: "Ladies and gentlemen, we've killed star wars."
    Me: So you've turned into Disney?

  • @meepdameep5343
    @meepdameep5343 Місяць тому

    Oh hey... my first ever dnd session. We each got 3 potiona, so spent alot of time shootin out chill touches.

  • @Ryan2K900
    @Ryan2K900 Місяць тому

    Gotta love burning hands. Makes introducing the bbeg wizard/sorcerer whatever with a handshake very interesting

  • @actortimmah42
    @actortimmah42 Місяць тому

    That was way more fun to watch than it had any right to.

  • @MarshallLeeFlames
    @MarshallLeeFlames Місяць тому

    Smurfette really did the "Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique".

  • @lostbutfreesoul
    @lostbutfreesoul Місяць тому +1

    It will depend the Arena they are fighting in.
    Example: Whom would waste a bet on the Ranger, if the arena space is ten feet by ten feet?

  • @jackdog06
    @jackdog06 Місяць тому

    “The paladin who hasn’t taken an oath yet even though that’s their whole thing”
    Yeah Paladins should really subclass at level 1 like clerics, huh?

  • @robustdelirium9277
    @robustdelirium9277 Місяць тому

    Untouched fighter running up and punching depleted spell caster into pink mist and blue chunks was a great ending. Shame about Cinnamon Toast’s skeleton. Doomed to walk the earth as a passive observer. At least until some one kicks it over I guess.

  • @weezact7
    @weezact7 Місяць тому

    Yeah, I feel like at level 1 in a flat, open arena, it was always going to come down to whoever struck first. Almost everyone in that fight had single digit hit points.

  • @KingTwelveSixteen
    @KingTwelveSixteen Місяць тому

    The Rogue or Bard wins, because the rogue hides until everyone but one is dead then backstabs them or the bard because they can talk others into alliances better and team up (and then betray them later at an opportune time)

  • @sarahharuka2811
    @sarahharuka2811 3 дні тому

    I once was told by the DM to roll for my hit point dices, we were in the lvl 4, so I had to roll 3 dices, I was a wizard so 3d6... I got three 1s... he felt bad for me and let me reroll, I got a 6, a 4 and a 2, basically the same if we didnt have to roll dices and just used the flat value which I'm happy enough with, the triple 1 was sad.... I also only had 13 constitution because was planning on getting a talent to raise my constitution at lvl 8, so imagine having only 13 hit points at LEVEL 4.... someone's in the party had almost 40...

  • @gabryelrodriguessouza8217
    @gabryelrodriguessouza8217 20 днів тому

    1v1 lvl 1 against a bladesinger that has sleep is probably the worst position someone could be. You only win if you're an elf or if you start first

  • @DavidGonzalez-zl3dz
    @DavidGonzalez-zl3dz Місяць тому

    The classes that get subclasses out of the gate have a definite advantages

  • @nicoladamiani9731
    @nicoladamiani9731 26 днів тому

    I think. It's between Dragonic Sorcerer and War Cleric. Because they're the ones at level 1 that can have pretty high AC AND deal magic damage to Barbarians. On top of that, War Cleric has 2 attacks every turn.
    Edit: oh it's 2024 edition. Well, I'm curious.

  • @leivaslt666
    @leivaslt666 Місяць тому

    Warlock…you could start with your familiar before battle and depending on the familiar it has more HP and better attack than you, so at level 1 is much better than EB.
    I agree with a comment that says it should at least be a 1x1 tournament

  • @PinguimCaótica
    @PinguimCaótica 7 днів тому

    "The good king Doflamingo" lol that got me

  • @witherking1215
    @witherking1215 Місяць тому

    Now we need to see who would win if every class fought at level 20.

  • @Infernal_Resonance
    @Infernal_Resonance Місяць тому

    Now you have to have each of them fight in a 1v1 and tale the average of who won the most for each fight to determine who is the very best.
    (Probably do several iterations as well just in case, like any good experiment)

  • @garion046
    @garion046 Місяць тому

    Obviously you wouldnt do this for the video, but the optimal move here imo is a build that takes tough, and always taking the Dodge action until theres only 2 left.

  • @KlondikeKun
    @KlondikeKun Місяць тому

    Not to Erm Actually Tips Fedora but I feel like the right choice in familiar for the warlock could really turn this simulation around. I'm inspired to try my own simulation!

  • @frimi8593
    @frimi8593 Місяць тому

    Without having watched the vid yet, my money’s on the tanking power of a rage

  • @AMeloncholyMadman
    @AMeloncholyMadman Місяць тому

    *Ahem*, is this thing on? All right, good. FIGHTER GANG LETS GO!!!