I've watched several antenna tracker videos in the past, and this is by far the most amusing video I've seen of one demo'd. I bet little kids would go crazy following the loitering airplane around in the sky by watching which way the tracker is pointing. Tent stakes in the ground tho to keep them from knocking it over! I got an analog 5ghz monitor panel just waiting around to be mounted on one of my tripods like that. These LR Wings look like they almost beg to have an Insta360 OneR on them with the 360 recorded field of view all around, and you could remove all aileron wobble out in post on the computer at home. Would create a lot of drag jutting out the front on a stick or mounted on top or something... Expensive camera tho - more cost to the project!
@@bluefish3607 I want one mounted on the top of a non-sescript van under a plastic canopy, and a 46 inch widescreen inside to fly my quad to. Air conditioned, got my rolly chair, my transmitter with coax running to roof, etc. Pull up, set the quad on the roof, and take off....
I didn't know you were local to me Caroline, it a good spot for long range out to the estuary as you are much higher than sea level. Just don't fly over the house at the bottom of the track, I did once and the lady came and threatened that her husband would come and sort me out for spying on her! Even though I flew over at 100 metres alt lol.
@@bluefish3607 I live in Bradford, just decided to take a trip out your way :) Going down to wings and wheels in Essex at the end of June and I needed a decent distance journey to test the car I bought during this pandemic.
hi, on this altitude in my area I cant get 2km on 600mW. I have FX-61 and I am happy when have less than 150mAh/km , so you really nice long-range plane.
Thanks for sharing your test. I've always flirted with the idea of a tracker but never taken the plunge. When you eventually push for max range, be sure to change your vTx antenna on the Dart to one that is linear instead of circular. You're losing some gain due to the polarity mismatch (linear on the patch and circular on your vTx). Looking forward to your next tests!
I thought that myself Jacob but when I queried it with the manufacturer they said an omni on the plane was fine. I am planning a 20k trip out to sea next and will test the linear and the omni and see what results I get.
@@bluefish3607 An "omni" can be either linear or circular polarization. "Omni" just means it radiates all directions at once (except for the nulls, of course); it does not indicate the polarization of the wave. The antenna on your Dart (in this video at least) is a circularly polarized, omnidirectional antenna. The MFD patch is a directional (as opposed to omni) antenna, meaning it has its highest gain in a narrower angle. But again, that doesn't refer to the antenna's polarization. If indeed it is a linear polarization (I Googled around and couldn't find one way or the other), then you will lose 3dB of gain right out of the gate with the circular on your plane and the linear on the ground, regardless of which is omni or directional. It's possible the MFD patch *is* circularly polarized, then there would be no cross-polarization loss. If it is, in fact, linear, I'd suggest popping a 5.8Ghz dipole antenna (which would be linear) on the vTx (like this one: shop.prodrone.pl/en_US/p/ProMicroVee_HD_Lite-MMCX-/190). This would be only for extreme range. 20Km might be possible, depending on conditions, even with a -3dB cross-polarization loss. I regularly fly with linear on the plane and circular on the ground on my 1.3 system. Keep up the good work!
@@brubakerjm I have learned something new today thank you for that explanation. I have confirmed with MFD that their patch antenna is linear polarized www.myflydream.com/products/c-0/364.html The link you sent did not work and i was not sure if the others on the site were linear as it did not specify. I do have the original antennas from my FR632 diversity receiver which I think are linear and I could try one of those on the plane www.flyingtech.co.uk/fpv-camera-gimbals/boscam-fr632-diversity-40ch-raceband-58ghz-fpv-receiver I have also ordered an Emax linear antenna but its out of stock www.unmannedtechshop.co.uk/product/emax-nano-5-8ghz-fpv-antenna/ What confuses me a little now is the fact that that antenna above has the choice of RHCP or LHCP but I assume that this does not apply to Linear antennas?
@@bluefish3607 Yes, those straight, black antennas from your FR632 would be good options for linear. Emax definitely lists the specs of their Nano as circularly polarized, so Unmannedtechshop.co.uk testing it and verifying it as linear is very interesting. I'd be inclined to think Emax knows what they are talking about, but who knows!
I use a Fy-41-AP Lite and would like to buy such a tracker, but I have some doubts: 1 - What will I need to use this tracker with my Fy-41AP? 2 - Will I need to have another GPS connected to Telefly? 3 - Will I be able to use with 5.8 ghz and 1.2 ghz systems?
Hi I am using the FR632 diversity reciever, I got mine from Hobbyking yaers ago but not sure if they have them available but should be able to find one if you search on Google.
Awesome demo. but I'm a bit disappointed that it lost track at 11km although there was only a little bit of noise. But kind of expected. I still prefer the RC telemetry for tracking for that reason.
yup, it's a bit like a chicken and egg scenario lol. you need a good video signal to carry the GPS data in order to track the model. But then you need the ability to track the model, in order to get a good video signal in order to carry the GPS data lol. I agree, RC telemetry is a more stable way of receiving the GPS data as we're normally always flying well within the capabilities of our RC links, even when our video starts to fail.
That's a fancy looking Patch on your VRX...looks like it has a fairly low gain, wide beam too...Why don't you use your Crossfire? telemetry to give exact (high resolution) GPS coords for tracking? I assume it's using video signal strength to track at the moment?...Great setup though, if rather complex, well done..The static at range is typical 5.8g though. You won't see that on 1.2g... Subbed BTW....good effort.
This is the patch antenna and the next project is to send mavlink data to my Taranis via Crossfire and then Bluetooth to the tracker, some more stuff to learn :-) myflydream.com/products/c-0/364.html
@@bluefish3607 Thanks, a 20dbi gain and 16 degree angle makes it pretty pointy... You're invested in 5.8g and tracking, I won't try and convert you to 1.2g...Although I'm sure my 8dbi 1.2g patch would be light enough for your tracker to handle...Imagine that..lol.
Its just a cheap 10 inch LCD screen I got off Ebay. It looks bright in the video because it was actually very low light as the sun was setting. On bright days its needs a sun screen which I am going to 3D print but not bad for the money I would say. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-10-Inch-Monitor-TFT-LED-Screen-CCTV-AV-VGA-HDMI-Surveillance-Input-Speake/363050376988?hash=item54877d1f1c:g:cHgAAOSwBz1cc6hf
I need a very long range rc transmitter. At least 100km with 18 channel. What do you recommend? Does this tracker will help me to use and control my plane by rc transmitter or it just work on autopilot
I think for that 1.3Ghz would be your best option you can Google it for more info as I have never used it only 5.8Ghz. The tracker simply tries to keep your graound directional antenna pointing at the plane to keep the signal strong to give more range.
Yes its really useful Tobias if you turn on Wake Up On Voice in settings voice commands will work up to an hour after you turn it off. This is useful so you can turn it off and then back on again in between flights to save your GoPro battery. GoPro Start Recording” “GoPro HiLight” (Adds a highlight tag while recording video) “GoPro Stop Recording” “GoPro Take a Photo” “GoPro Shoot Burst” “GoPro Start Time Lapse” “GoPro Stop Time Lapse” “GoPro Video Mode” “GoPro Photo Mode” “GoPro Time Lapse Mode” “GoPro Burst Mode” “GoPro Turn Off” “GoPro Start Video” “GoPro Stop Video”
I use an Luminier AXII on the plane. www.lumenier.com/products/antennas I did email Myflydream and asked about what was the best antenna to use on the plane and they said that Omi's were absolutely fine. I have used the AXII's for years and they have always served me well, but as you know there is vast choice and I am no antenna expert.
You need a narrower signal antenna! I use a double biquad antenna and it is very much spot on all the time.. "By the way I use the original MFD AAT..." May I ask you what it the camera you are using??
@@bluefish3607 Wow... darn it!! only till now I found out that you reply to my comment!! I also have the Ratel, it is an awesome little camera love it. best of luck!! and thank you for your message!!
Hi, Glenn. I hope you are doing OK after your back injury. Could you help me with some tips to configure my Crossbow mini AAT? I am also using Telefly Tiny and Crossfire Nano in the airplane. How do you wire the tracker? Thanks, man.
Hi Silvio, I am getting better thanks for asking. It has been a while since I used telefly I am just waiting for my ESP8266 module to setup with WiFi and mavlink via Crossfire. I just used the information from the My Fly Dream setup instructions and that worked for me but not very well at longer ranges so that's why I am trying WiFi. Sorry I can't be more specific but I do not have it setup at the moment as I disconnected everything for the new setup.
Great video, is it possible the tracker stops moving when you reach a decent distance because the beam gets bigger the further out you go, maybe you would have to travel quite far to the side to get it to move?
Hi Toby, I have been flying proximity recently but have purchased an ESP wi-fi module to try and connect to my Crossfire Micro TX. I hope to test it with some long range flights as soon as I get the opportunity.
HI Dorel I am using 5.8ghz and my current setup is as follows: FR632 Diversity Receiver MyFlyDream 20DBI linear patch antenna MyFlyDream Mini Crossbow Tracker AX II Circular Polarized Antenna 10 Inch LED Panel Screen DJI FPV Goggles with Analogue input from the FR632 I am working on getting the tracking data via Crossfire to my Taranis X9D+ radio and then connecting via the Taranis serial port to Bluetooth Module and to the tracker. Still testing the setup and my next video will be testing the Bluetooth option. Before I got the tracker I just used the FR632 with a 150mm Patch antenna I got out 10-12 km no problem. There are so many options out there and it depends what kind of flying you want to do, but this setup has worked well for me. I hope that helps.
Just about any diversity option will do this one is similar to the FR632 www.banggood.com/Skyzone-RD40-FPV-5_8G-40CH-Diversity-Receiver-p-995945.html?cur_warehouse=CN&rmmds=search
@@bluefish3607 thanks for your time and help that you provide, I finally find a sealed FR632 from a pilot that didn't need it anymore, a elogoo uno r3 board to set the hc-05 bluetooth, and now I'm waiting for the mini tracker and the 20db antenna to arrive, hopefully will not be that hard to connect it to my crossfire full size, thanks
Hi, can you tell me how to pass the information from TeleFlyTiny to MFD Crossbow mini to show the height. Only left-right orientation works for me, and up-and-down does not. I have alt = 0 on the truck the whole time of the flight. It configures everything in inav and I have no idea where I am going wrong. Thank you my friend for any help.
Hi sorry for late reply I have been on vacation. It was a while ago I set this up and based upon the setup guide it just worked for me. I dont use the Telefly anymore so cannot really help unfortunately. The MFD Crossbow Facebook group would be a good place to get help.
Hello nice video. I just set this up but mine doesnt track, kinda twitches around like its lost. I tapped the tiny to the onboard gps, set the crossbow mini to version 2, calibrate compass and set up 90° and down to 0°. Set home point when theres enough sattelite shown in the mini crossbow screen then send the plane up. Wont track for some reason. It kinda seems like it does kinda track sometimes but wont stay tracked and then starts shaking. Any ideas on what i might b doing wrong? Btw haven't checked or update any firmware and im only using the tripple feed patch with RC832 VRX , Figured i dont need diversity since its a tracker?
TBH mine does not track perfectly yet and I have just got the external compass to try and improve it. I am now using the Crossfire telemetry bluetooth method. I tapped my TTiny to the GPS and got better tracking by adjusting the VBI until I got the best value. I think the best place to get some good advice is on the Mini Crossbow Facebook page as I am no expert and just trying to get to grips with it myself. facebook.com/groups/2551897241564695
Hi Silvio, its nothing special I got if from Ebay here is a link with the details www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203366843068?hash=item2f599bc2bc:g:fwsAAOSwoWVggTvB
Too bad, I stay away from Facebook. I've been thinking of buying one but I'm not sure what frequency I have to use for the tracker to work. All my stuff is 1.3 and I think it won't work with this tracker of its not 5.8
Hi the tracker is completely frequency independent and can be used with 5.8, 1.2, 1.3, 2.4 if telemetry data is sent via the radio utilising mavlink, crossfire etc.
I powered it with 9V from my Matek F405 Wing FC That said I am not doing that now as I am switching to Crossfire Telemetry and Bluetooth to my Mini Crossbow tracker.
@@bluefish3607 Thank you for your reply sir! Great setup and very educational vlogs and commentaries.. Its helping the RC Flying Community so much... Kudos to your channel!
The GPS coordinates of the plane are transmitted back to the tracker which then tracks the direction of the plane to keep the ground antenna beam pointing at the plane to give it much longer visible range for the video signal.
@@Chris-vc1dh It means that if you do not have it enabled there will be no stabilisation at zero throttle and you will have less authority than manual mode. All that said I have never flown without it permanently enabled in the configuration tab. Best thing to do to answer your question would be for you to fly with it on and off and determine how it feels and suits your particular setup and flying style.
@@Chris-vc1dh I think it takes that into consideration as part of your battery profile setup. I will check when I have access to my plane and inav back at the workshop
Neither I used the Telefly Tiny module in the plane and coordinates are passed to the tracker via the VTX signal. Never managed to get bluetooth or wifi working so have shelved it for now and I have been focusing on proximity flying with dji rather than long range.
@@Chris-vc1dh Hi Chris it might be because you have a value of 10% in the critical battery (remaining %) in the battery settings on the configuration tab. I believe whatever you set this to is removed from the remaining % in the OSD. You could set this to zero % and see if it solves your query. Thats all I can think of really.
Hi Mike you will need the following if you want to use the Telefly Tiny modules to send telemetry via your VTX signal: myflydream.com/products/c-0/349.html myflydream.com/products/c-0/348.html myflydream.com/products/c-0/359.html myflydream.com/products/c-0/362.html If you want to use Crossfire or Mavlink telemetry you won't need the telefly tiny modules but will need a full sized Crossfire with Bluetooth to get the telemetry data from your radio to the tracker or if you have crossfire micro like I have you can use 2 x HC05 bluetooth modules one connected to your radio serial port and one connected to your tracker. If you are interested in trying one of these then its a bit of a learning curve but you can get tons of help and advice depending on what radio and setup you have etc here: facebook.com/groups/2551897241564695 I hope that helps
@@bluefish3607 I use the TBS crossfire full TX with bluetooth but my concern with using Crossfire bluetooth to this tracker is that TBS crossfire bluetooth is horrible at data sharing to external devices. Wifi which it also has I still haven't seen really anymore development from TBS at getting the wifi to send RELIABLE telemetry to external devices.
I've watched several antenna tracker videos in the past, and this is by far the most amusing video I've seen of one demo'd. I bet little kids would go crazy following the loitering airplane around in the sky by watching which way the tracker is pointing. Tent stakes in the ground tho to keep them from knocking it over! I got an analog 5ghz monitor panel just waiting around to be mounted on one of my tripods like that.
These LR Wings look like they almost beg to have an Insta360 OneR on them with the 360 recorded field of view all around, and you could remove all aileron wobble out in post on the computer at home. Would create a lot of drag jutting out the front on a stick or mounted on top or something... Expensive camera tho - more cost to the project!
Hi there again I just wish I could get it working properly or I may need to be admitted to a long range FPV asylum :-)
@@bluefish3607 I want one mounted on the top of a non-sescript van under a plastic canopy, and a 46 inch widescreen inside to fly my quad to. Air conditioned, got my rolly chair, my transmitter with coax running to roof, etc. Pull up, set the quad on the roof, and take off....
@@choppergirl Now your talking its -2 deg C here :-)
This gear is what I will need to have. Nice, Glenn
Great video and nice to see it set up with the MFD patch. Enjoyed your surprise when you decided it was tracking 🥳👍🏻
Yeah I think it did stop tracking at one stage and picked up again when I got close to home
Thanks!! awesome MFD 5.8GHz 20dBi antenna!!
I was standing by that broken gate on Monday....checking out the lay of the land :)
I didn't know you were local to me Caroline, it a good spot for long range out to the estuary as you are much higher than sea level. Just don't fly over the house at the bottom of the track, I did once and the lady came and threatened that her husband would come and sort me out for spying on her! Even though I flew over at 100 metres alt lol.
@@bluefish3607 I live in Bradford, just decided to take a trip out your way :)
Going down to wings and wheels in Essex at the end of June and I needed a decent distance journey to test the car I bought during this pandemic.
@@Caroline_Tyler I am flattered that your test journey was my broken gate :-)
Enjoy wings and wheels!
hi, on this altitude in my area I cant get 2km on 600mW. I have FX-61 and I am happy when have less than 150mAh/km , so you really nice long-range plane.
I really enjoyed this video . Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it, I had lots of fun that day, happy flying.
Thanks for sharing your test. I've always flirted with the idea of a tracker but never taken the plunge. When you eventually push for max range, be sure to change your vTx antenna on the Dart to one that is linear instead of circular. You're losing some gain due to the polarity mismatch (linear on the patch and circular on your vTx). Looking forward to your next tests!
I thought that myself Jacob but when I queried it with the manufacturer they said an omni on the plane was fine.
I am planning a 20k trip out to sea next and will test the linear and the omni and see what results I get.
@@bluefish3607 An "omni" can be either linear or circular polarization. "Omni" just means it radiates all directions at once (except for the nulls, of course); it does not indicate the polarization of the wave. The antenna on your Dart (in this video at least) is a circularly polarized, omnidirectional antenna. The MFD patch is a directional (as opposed to omni) antenna, meaning it has its highest gain in a narrower angle. But again, that doesn't refer to the antenna's polarization. If indeed it is a linear polarization (I Googled around and couldn't find one way or the other), then you will lose 3dB of gain right out of the gate with the circular on your plane and the linear on the ground, regardless of which is omni or directional.
It's possible the MFD patch *is* circularly polarized, then there would be no cross-polarization loss. If it is, in fact, linear, I'd suggest popping a 5.8Ghz dipole antenna (which would be linear) on the vTx (like this one: shop.prodrone.pl/en_US/p/ProMicroVee_HD_Lite-MMCX-/190). This would be only for extreme range. 20Km might be possible, depending on conditions, even with a -3dB cross-polarization loss. I regularly fly with linear on the plane and circular on the ground on my 1.3 system.
Keep up the good work!
@@brubakerjm I have learned something new today thank you for that explanation.
I have confirmed with MFD that their patch antenna is linear polarized www.myflydream.com/products/c-0/364.html
The link you sent did not work and i was not sure if the others on the site were linear as it did not specify.
I do have the original antennas from my FR632 diversity receiver which I think are linear and I could try one of those on the plane www.flyingtech.co.uk/fpv-camera-gimbals/boscam-fr632-diversity-40ch-raceband-58ghz-fpv-receiver
I have also ordered an Emax linear antenna but its out of stock www.unmannedtechshop.co.uk/product/emax-nano-5-8ghz-fpv-antenna/
What confuses me a little now is the fact that that antenna above has the choice of RHCP or LHCP but I assume that this does not apply to Linear antennas?
@@bluefish3607 Yes, those straight, black antennas from your FR632 would be good options for linear. Emax definitely lists the specs of their Nano as circularly polarized, so Unmannedtechshop.co.uk testing it and verifying it as linear is very interesting. I'd be inclined to think Emax knows what they are talking about, but who knows!
I use a Fy-41-AP Lite and would like to buy such a tracker, but I have some doubts:
1 - What will I need to use this tracker with my Fy-41AP?
2 - Will I need to have another GPS connected to Telefly?
3 - Will I be able to use with 5.8 ghz and 1.2 ghz systems?
Thanks for the great engaging videos. which video receiver are you using please and where to get from? Thanks
Hi I am using the FR632 diversity reciever, I got mine from Hobbyking yaers ago but not sure if they have them available but should be able to find one if you search on Google.
Awesome demo. but I'm a bit disappointed that it lost track at 11km although there was only a little bit of noise. But kind of expected. I still prefer the RC telemetry for tracking for that reason.
I think it lost tracking before then. I think RC telemetry is the way to go.
yup, it's a bit like a chicken and egg scenario lol. you need a good video signal to carry the GPS data in order to track the model. But then you need the ability to track the model, in order to get a good video signal in order to carry the GPS data lol.
I agree, RC telemetry is a more stable way of receiving the GPS data as we're normally always flying well within the capabilities of our RC links, even when our video starts to fail.
That's a fancy looking Patch on your VRX...looks like it has a fairly low gain, wide beam too...Why don't you use your Crossfire? telemetry to give exact (high resolution) GPS coords for tracking? I assume it's using video signal strength to track at the moment?...Great setup though, if rather complex, well done..The static at range is typical 5.8g though. You won't see that on 1.2g...
Subbed BTW....good effort.
This is the patch antenna and the next project is to send mavlink data to my Taranis via Crossfire and then Bluetooth to the tracker, some more stuff to learn :-)
myflydream.com/products/c-0/364.html
@@bluefish3607 Thanks, a 20dbi gain and 16 degree angle makes it pretty pointy... You're invested in 5.8g and tracking, I won't try and convert you to 1.2g...Although I'm sure my 8dbi 1.2g patch would be light enough for your tracker to handle...Imagine that..lol.
nice, im kinda wanting one
Looks tidy, cool little package. What monitor is that? It's really clear and bright considering it's outside. cheers.
Its just a cheap 10 inch LCD screen I got off Ebay. It looks bright in the video because it was actually very low light as the sun was setting. On bright days its needs a sun screen which I am going to 3D print but not bad for the money I would say.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-10-Inch-Monitor-TFT-LED-Screen-CCTV-AV-VGA-HDMI-Surveillance-Input-Speake/363050376988?hash=item54877d1f1c:g:cHgAAOSwBz1cc6hf
I need a very long range rc transmitter. At least 100km with 18 channel. What do you recommend? Does this tracker will help me to use and control my plane by rc transmitter or it just work on autopilot
I think for that 1.3Ghz would be your best option you can Google it for more info as I have never used it only 5.8Ghz. The tracker simply tries to keep your graound directional antenna pointing at the plane to keep the signal strong to give more range.
1:54 holy sh... never came to my mind that i could use voice commands to start the gopro recording when its deep inside the dart or talon gt nose.
Yes its really useful Tobias if you turn on Wake Up On Voice in settings voice commands will work up to an hour after you turn it off.
This is useful so you can turn it off and then back on again in between flights to save your GoPro battery.
GoPro Start Recording”
“GoPro HiLight” (Adds a highlight tag while recording video)
“GoPro Stop Recording”
“GoPro Take a Photo”
“GoPro Shoot Burst”
“GoPro Start Time Lapse”
“GoPro Stop Time Lapse”
“GoPro Video Mode”
“GoPro Photo Mode”
“GoPro Time Lapse Mode”
“GoPro Burst Mode”
“GoPro Turn Off”
“GoPro Start Video”
“GoPro Stop Video”
@@bluefish3607 and imagine to shout at your plane when it's in the air, after you forgot to turn it on before launch 😂😂😂😂
@@MarcFPV I would never do anything that stupid I am a Pro Pilot :-)
That's nice 👌
Nice setup, one question, I want to buy 20db MFD 5.8g antenna, which is vertical polarised, what antenna do u use for vtx? Thank you and awesome setup
I use an Luminier AXII on the plane.
www.lumenier.com/products/antennas
I did email Myflydream and asked about what was the best antenna to use on the plane and they said that Omi's were absolutely fine.
I have used the AXII's for years and they have always served me well, but as you know there is vast choice and I am no antenna expert.
You need a narrower signal antenna! I use a double biquad antenna and it is very much spot on all the time.. "By the way I use the original MFD AAT..." May I ask you what it the camera you are using??
Its a CADDX Ratel Starlight and works amazingly in the dark, it does not look it on the DVR at the end of the flight but it was very dark indeed.
@@bluefish3607 Wow... darn it!! only till now I found out that you reply to my comment!! I also have the Ratel, it is an awesome little camera love it. best of luck!! and thank you for your message!!
Hi, Glenn. I hope you are doing OK after your back injury. Could you help me with some tips to configure my Crossbow mini AAT? I am also using Telefly Tiny and Crossfire Nano in the airplane. How do you wire the tracker? Thanks, man.
Hi Silvio, I am getting better thanks for asking. It has been a while since I used telefly I am just waiting for my ESP8266 module to setup with WiFi and mavlink via Crossfire. I just used the information from the My Fly Dream setup instructions and that worked for me but not very well at longer ranges so that's why I am trying WiFi.
Sorry I can't be more specific but I do not have it setup at the moment as I disconnected everything for the new setup.
Great video, is it possible the tracker stops moving when you reach a decent distance because the beam gets bigger the further out you go, maybe you would have to travel quite far to the side to get it to move?
I was thinking that myself to be honest, I am going to rety ir again when I get some time with a TBS Crossfire wifi setup and see how that works out.
@@bluefish3607
Cheers for the reply, love your videos, would like to do my own soon 👍
Great video. I just ordered one. Did you ever get it to work via wifi mavlink?
Hi Toby, I have been flying proximity recently but have purchased an ESP wi-fi module to try and connect to my Crossfire Micro TX. I hope to test it with some long range flights as soon as I get the opportunity.
Great review can you tell me what ground station you use here or what you can recommend? thanks
HI Dorel I am using 5.8ghz and my current setup is as follows:
FR632 Diversity Receiver
MyFlyDream 20DBI linear patch antenna
MyFlyDream Mini Crossbow Tracker
AX II Circular Polarized Antenna
10 Inch LED Panel Screen
DJI FPV Goggles with Analogue input from the FR632
I am working on getting the tracking data via Crossfire to my Taranis X9D+ radio and then connecting via the Taranis serial port to Bluetooth Module and to the tracker.
Still testing the setup and my next video will be testing the Bluetooth option.
Before I got the tracker I just used the FR632 with a 150mm Patch antenna I got out 10-12 km no problem.
There are so many options out there and it depends what kind of flying you want to do, but this setup has worked well for me.
I hope that helps.
Just about any diversity option will do this one is similar to the FR632 www.banggood.com/Skyzone-RD40-FPV-5_8G-40CH-Diversity-Receiver-p-995945.html?cur_warehouse=CN&rmmds=search
@@bluefish3607 thanks for your time and help that you provide, I finally find a sealed FR632 from a pilot that didn't need it anymore, a elogoo uno r3 board to set the hc-05 bluetooth, and now I'm waiting for the mini tracker and the 20db antenna to arrive, hopefully will not be that hard to connect it to my crossfire full size, thanks
So you are CP on the vtv but your patch on the vrx is linear?
Next time out, take the Omni off your VRX...
nice, setting up my mini crossbow now. what power did you run for vtx?
AKK FX-2 Ultimate at 1200mw
@@bluefish3607 that's a lot of power :))
Sir hi,
Que: The yellow square ant., is circular or vertical polerized PLEASE
I GOT IT going through the coments Cheer's
@@bobfin4291 Hi Bob good glad you got the info I got it from the Myflydream web shop.
Hi, can you tell me how to pass the information from TeleFlyTiny to MFD Crossbow mini to show the height. Only left-right orientation works for me, and up-and-down does not. I have alt = 0 on the truck the whole time of the flight.
It configures everything in inav and I have no idea where I am going wrong. Thank you my friend for any help.
Hi sorry for late reply I have been on vacation. It was a while ago I set this up and based upon the setup guide it just worked for me. I dont use the Telefly anymore so cannot really help unfortunately. The MFD Crossbow Facebook group would be a good place to get help.
@@bluefish3607 Hi, I have solved the problem, I have a damaged TFT. Everything works fine on the new one. Regards
@@szczery_fpv Thats good to hear, glad you sorted it, happy flying
Hello nice video. I just set this up but mine doesnt track, kinda twitches around like its lost. I tapped the tiny to the onboard gps, set the crossbow mini to version 2, calibrate compass and set up 90° and down to 0°. Set home point when theres enough sattelite shown in the mini crossbow screen then send the plane up. Wont track for some reason. It kinda seems like it does kinda track sometimes but wont stay tracked and then starts shaking. Any ideas on what i might b doing wrong? Btw haven't checked or update any firmware and im only using the tripple feed patch with RC832 VRX , Figured i dont need diversity since its a tracker?
TBH mine does not track perfectly yet and I have just got the external compass to try and improve it.
I am now using the Crossfire telemetry bluetooth method.
I tapped my TTiny to the GPS and got better tracking by adjusting the VBI until I got the best value.
I think the best place to get some good advice is on the Mini Crossbow Facebook page as I am no expert and just trying to get to grips with it myself.
facebook.com/groups/2551897241564695
@@bluefish3607 yea ive been reading about that but i don't know how to do any of that stuff. Flash the hc-05 then bind it.😔
Glenn, what is the size and specs of your monitor on the ground station.? Thanks, man
Hi Silvio, its nothing special I got if from Ebay here is a link with the details www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203366843068?hash=item2f599bc2bc:g:fwsAAOSwoWVggTvB
@@bluefish3607 Thanks, Glenn
Too bad, I stay away from Facebook. I've been thinking of buying one but I'm not sure what frequency I have to use for the tracker to work. All my stuff is 1.3 and I think it won't work with this tracker of its not 5.8
Hi the tracker is completely frequency independent and can be used with 5.8, 1.2, 1.3, 2.4 if telemetry data is sent via the radio utilising mavlink, crossfire etc.
@@bluefish3607 Thanks a bunch. I really appreciate you taking the time to help me out.
ty, which antenna are you using on ground station plus. ;)
MyFlyDream 20dbi patch and a Luminier AX II
On your battery information i noticed that the MaH are counting down how does it know how many MaH your battery pack is?
Its a setting in iNav you can specify the number of cells and mah capacity.
@@bluefish3607 Thank you!!!
Is there step by step to build the this tracker?
Did you power the Telefly Tiny with 7 - 9v or 12v?
I powered it with 9V from my Matek F405 Wing FC
That said I am not doing that now as I am switching to Crossfire Telemetry and Bluetooth to my Mini Crossbow tracker.
@@bluefish3607 Thank you for your reply sir! Great setup and very educational vlogs and commentaries.. Its helping the RC Flying Community so much... Kudos to your channel!
whats the purpose of this and for what it is used?
The GPS coordinates of the plane are transmitted back to the tracker which then tracks the direction of the plane to keep the ground antenna beam pointing at the plane to give it much longer visible range for the video signal.
is it important to have air mode on in planes?
Yes air mode is very important for fixed wing as it keeps the PIFF controller active even at zero throttle.
@@bluefish3607 what does it mean in practice?
@@Chris-vc1dh It means that if you do not have it enabled there will be no stabilisation at zero throttle and you will have less authority than manual mode. All that said I have never flown without it permanently enabled in the configuration tab. Best thing to do to answer your question would be for you to fly with it on and off and determine how it feels and suits your particular setup and flying style.
11:30 Where are you reading off the v link?
From the tracker led screen
great, what antenna is that?
It is a my fly dream 20dbi patch on their mini AAT tracker www.myflydream.com
@@bluefish3607 how did you put mahrs used and remaing
@@Chris-vc1dh Just select them from the inav OSD options list and switch them on
@@bluefish3607 but if you put battery capacity eg 2000mahrs so inav will be based on 2000 but not full capacity can be used as we know but about 80%
@@Chris-vc1dh I think it takes that into consideration as part of your battery profile setup. I will check when I have access to my plane and inav back at the workshop
is it mah used and remaining?
Sorry missed this message, yes it is.
did you use wifi or bluetooth please?
Neither I used the Telefly Tiny module in the plane and coordinates are passed to the tracker via the VTX signal. Never managed to get bluetooth or wifi working so have shelved it for now and I have been focusing on proximity flying with dji rather than long range.
@@bluefish3607 my battery remains % is 10% less on telemetry display than osd, any idea why, my friend?
@@Chris-vc1dh Hi Chris it might be because you have a value of 10% in the critical battery (remaining %) in the battery settings on the configuration tab. I believe whatever you set this to is removed from the remaining % in the OSD. You could set this to zero % and see if it solves your query. Thats all I can think of really.
@@bluefish3607 good point, i will check it thank you
do you have a list of everything you need for this system?
Hi Mike you will need the following if you want to use the Telefly Tiny modules to send telemetry via your VTX signal:
myflydream.com/products/c-0/349.html
myflydream.com/products/c-0/348.html
myflydream.com/products/c-0/359.html
myflydream.com/products/c-0/362.html
If you want to use Crossfire or Mavlink telemetry you won't need the telefly tiny modules but will need a full sized Crossfire with Bluetooth to get the telemetry data from your radio to the tracker or if you have crossfire micro like I have you can use 2 x HC05 bluetooth modules one connected to your radio serial port and one connected to your tracker.
If you are interested in trying one of these then its a bit of a learning curve but you can get tons of help and advice depending on what radio and setup you have etc here: facebook.com/groups/2551897241564695
I hope that helps
@@bluefish3607 I use the TBS crossfire full TX with bluetooth but my concern with using Crossfire bluetooth to this tracker is that TBS crossfire bluetooth is horrible at data sharing to external devices. Wifi which it also has I still haven't seen really anymore development from TBS at getting the wifi to send RELIABLE telemetry to external devices.