Sickening, and I guess if your a private person, that doesn’t have 4 references or the money does not have any rights. 100% unconstitutional and anyone that is upholding this process has violated there oath of office.
@@mrmartin7131 Sue, Sue, Sue. It is all they understand. Their will be lots of lawyers available if they deny or delay in a non reasonable manner. Which they usually do because they are on a power trip. Use their power trip to an advantage and make some money out of it.
It should be up to the Judge only if there is a conflict of a misdemeanor or some family domestic problems such as mental instability other than that the Judge has absolutely no authority and no right to refuse a pistol permit to a clean law abiding citizen. How many counties in NY have to be sued before this sinks in??
The ironic thing I am a resident in multiple states NY being one of them. I can carry in all the other states no problem, in one state I went through the whole process and was carrying in a few months. But here in the state where I grew up in they make the process near impossible. Sadly the reason why I am leaving for good.
What I really want to know is why can I buy an ar15 with just a simple background check yet I have to go through all this bullshit just to get a handgun when CLEARLY an ar15 is alot more powerful that a majority of handguns? My real gripe is that each of the character references MUST fill out and affadavit in front of a notary and have it notarized. That alone is a MAJOR pain in the ass and a huge inconvenience. Fuck that, I'll just wait a few years until I move to Florida then I'll buy a nice 1911 without all the beaurocratic bullshit.
There is a simple answer to your question. People who know firearms know what you are saying from experience. However, our leaders seem not to have common sense because they live above the everyday person in a fantasy world. You never see anti gun people walk around the streets in real life and show you how their view-point works in reality.
I was advised by the State Police to leave my guns in Tennessee. I am at least 6th Generation from the Albany New York area. My Mom's side is from PA. I will study and review the laws in that State too. The road block between New York and Tennessee.. So, I am grateful for this video. I have friends and relatives still in the Upstate area. I plan on visiting cemeteries, Museums etc that I have in the past. Attend reunions, funerals, church services, etc. I will use this information and policies. This video gives me some freedom I didn't have in 2018 or didn't know I had. I am still researching policies in NYC. You see, the laws in New York are not perfect, but as long as I am camping, hunting, fishing etc, I am good to go, and this Sherriff will help get the State Troopers off my back when I visit. I believe in Permits because of training. Target practice, etc. But Blue States are nuta!!! I am a Centrist. An American. I don't look only at one Party. No one Party is always right. I respect a Republican Sherriff in a Blue State for his help. I will apply for a Fishing/ hunting license in NY. I finally got one recently in Tennessee. As a Law Abiding Citizen in a Red State, I will store this video in my pocket. Any advice on NYC would be helpful. I never wanted to see Upstaters needing to carry concealed etc and several cities are worse. But Gloveesville isn't the same before 1986. Times change. As a resident of Tennessee for 31 years and Florida for 5 years with no criminal record, I should have every right to carry in Upstate. To those rifle and shot gun happy, yes, they work, but you can conceal them while walking along the sidewalks.... 😆 🤣
And counties such as Suffolk and Nassau are far worse than the State Application, by requiring you disclose your manager’s information, they contact your workplace require a doctors write off if you took a pain pill for a bad back, it’s crazy.
@@TheSchmed Unfortunately, I live in Suffolk Co. To get a pistol permit (just for home defense) is a total pain in the ASS! I don't have Four references. Most people I know are scared of guns or are anti-2nd Amend. I could pay a pistol permit lic. service company $800. And the total cost to defend my home would be $800 plus $500 ~ $600 for the Glock 9mm I want.
@@rdnowlin1206 so do I. My son is applying, but like you, he does not have 4 references, many of his close friends are out of county, and 2 are cops. I’m surprised this is still allowed post Bruen. I know the struggle, I got mine back in 2010, and it took 4 months total. Prior to the SAFE Act, Albany dealt with county level applications, remember it’s a STATE license, but Suffolk (SC) treats it as a COUNTY license. Post SAFE Act Albany said we are only accepting the NY State License, but SC said, nope, they still want their more restrictive application used, so 3/4 of the wait time is their meaningless process. So until you go for your interview and submit “The Fingerprint Form”, that is when the STATE Application is only submitted and the 6 month countdown starts. So, the process before that, the county application, the everything prior to that means NOTHING in the eyes of the state, so in essence, they are making you apply twice for one license, at the county level and the state level. So what the state does not care about (certain legitimately Rx’d medications), can actually be a reason for denial in Suffolks eyes, although it is not a reason in the states eyes. It is a huge conflict in so many ways, and I am surprised there are not more legal actions taken, mainly from a conflict of medical privacy laws. Imagine if you had to disclose to the DMV you were HIV+ before you were allowed to get a drivers license, well you are required to do so to get a NY State Pistol License, granted not by the state but by the county of Suffolk, if you happened to take or took an Rx medication they want reported, as you need to state when and WHY and get write off from the prescribing physician. Where are all the gay rights groups? Crickets. DO NOT USE AN OUTSIDE AGENCY TO DO THE PISTOL LICENSE FOR YOU, the SC Pistol License Division frowns on this. Go to www.longislandfirearms.com and www.longislandgunclub.com, members will give you assistance for the process.
Your going to have to make fake friends or friend quatences. Maybe bob at the grocery store. A few friends here or there. I don't think the reference makes sense. Just do a background check.
In a state where $2.50 bus fare was considered a financial strain and unconstitutional to obtain a voter ID, yet fees in excess of $400 in some counties to obtain a pistol license to simply own a pistol is fine. For me, When I purchase a pistol, it requires I use a vacation day and drive over 75 miles total to the agency to add the pistol to my license.
There’s a question on the application asking “ are you an unlawful user or addicted to any controlled substances “ what if your not an unlawful user and you have a legitimate reason to take say pain medication and it’s prescribed from a dr? Does that automatically disqualify you?
Never mind actually, you have to treat it like driving for example. “Don’t operate heavy machinery” on pills means aka don’t drive while on if. Same goes for this, one of things in my application (Suffolk county), “do not carry your handgun when consuming alcoholic beverages or taking prescription medications that may affect your absolutes and/or judgment.”
not to mention the process can take up to 1 year, I've seen it take longer in some area's and short in others, but never under 6 months. It's been that way since Mario Cuomo was Gov. of NY in the 80's the thief that Anti American was, his Son Andrew Cuomo was the same way.
Well actually yes during yot hunting season you're allowed to carry since most times it's late at night to late early morning unless ur staying during deer hunting season.
This will be a loophole I will use. State Troopers advised me in 2018 that I needed to leave my guns in Tennessee. Well, as far as Upstate is concerned, I believe I "got them on this one" now!!! 😆 🤣 As a 6th Generation from Upstate, a law abiding Citizen, I have every right to carry and defend myself.
@@marcbills8228 lol as long as you're in the right area and it's hunting season yeah definitely carry it. Some states allow coyote hunting all yr. Lol just make sure you have your hunting license on you aswell.
The issue is a NY State Pistol license is COUNTY SPECIFIC. Many counties have their own process for a STATE license, specifically he ones that are closer to NYC. If the same licensing process existed for a drivers license, which is not even a right, but a privilege, every ACLU/NYCLU dirtbag sheister would be filing grievances how a county level application should not be used for a STATE license. The process for Suffolk County adds 12-18 MONTHS, YES 12-18 MONTHS, to the process and is has nothing to do with you acquiring the license, just adds time and is meant to discourage you from applying as they require you disclose more personal information, specifically private Rx information which is in conflict with federal HIPPA laws. You would literally be required to disclose to an LEO agency that you are HIV+ (and gay), if you took a medication they want reported) to exercise a constitutional right. Imagine being required to tell the DMV you are HIV+ before being able to get a drivers license ? It would never be accepted, and driving is not even a constitutional right.
I would like to know I know BB guns are not allowed in New York what about air what is a procedure of having a permit for this type of rifle I do not see any anybody showing these on UA-cam whitesplaining their procedure of this type of rifle!
4 ref in ur county.....since i live right on the boarder of my county and pretty much everyone i rly know live in the county 5 steps to my right i cant ask them for a reference.....
A person who has a State License to carry for Upstate wants to carry in NYC for self defense while touring etc. What can the person do? NYC is high risk compared to Upstate. Video or comments appreciated. I understand the reasoning behind not accepting each other's permits but this is ridiculous.
I would like to know if the Fulton County Sheriffs Department has yet to investigate all of my reports that I have made on the drugging and raping, stalking including coordinated stalking, attempted murders,thefts in my home, illegal surveillance utilized in my home to human traffick me from my home in Broadalbin NY. Neighbor's involvement has been reported on MANY occasions by myself and I have been forced to flee my home across the country seeking help, while I am still currently being gangstalked and terrorized due to the inaction of the police department. As a taxpaying citizen, I have paid for these services which are being denied me by the Fulton County and New York state government entities responsible for providing me these services. I will continue to bring attention to these issues and the failures of the police department to provide me with the protection that I have asked for ad nauseum, and when I am able to acquire the appropriate representation, I will pursue these issues in a court of law against , not only the offenders, but the government agencies that refused to provide me with the appropriate protection, investigations into these matters and who gaslit me on every report, often even refusing to send a police car to my home, even when individuals who have already harmed me were coming onto my property.
Sickening, and I guess if your a private person, that doesn’t have 4 references or the money does not have any rights. 100% unconstitutional and anyone that is upholding this process has violated there oath of office.
Exactly
No american should need permission from government
This is one of the many reasons why people leave new york
Don't worry, their party is over as of June 2022. They must issue if you have no felonies. End of Story.
@@ELEVOPR bingo!!!!👍🏾👍🏾here in jersey too but they are still trying everything they can to discourage you from getting one🤨🤨🤨🤨
@@mrmartin7131 Sue, Sue, Sue. It is all they understand. Their will be lots of lawyers available if they deny or delay in a non reasonable manner. Which they usually do because they are on a power trip. Use their power trip to an advantage and make some money out of it.
Shall not infringe!
You don't need a permit to exercise a constitutional right. You need a permit to get permission to exercise a privilage.
BINGO! sucks
It should be up to the Judge only if there is a conflict of a misdemeanor or some family domestic problems such as mental instability other than that the Judge has absolutely no authority and no right to refuse a pistol permit to a clean law abiding citizen. How many counties in NY have to be sued before this sinks in??
The hole process alone he's explaining to obtain a permit is a deterrent.
The ironic thing I am a resident in multiple states NY being one of them. I can carry in all the other states no problem, in one state I went through the whole process and was carrying in a few months. But here in the state where I grew up in they make the process near impossible. Sadly the reason why I am leaving for good.
Won’t exist when the high court rules soon. Shall issue will apply to all states.
And it happened 🤗
Aged like a fine wine.
It happened, and made the process WORSE in Suffolk County, reclassified our restricted carry license to Premise only.
Ny needs to change its laws that’s why everyone is leaving
So very unconstitutional
Lol a judge giving permission to exercise a constitutional right. ...
Leaving this place in a few years I’m glad too going to a free state
What I really want to know is why can I buy an ar15 with just a simple background check yet I have to go through all this bullshit just to get a handgun when CLEARLY an ar15 is alot more powerful that a majority of handguns? My real gripe is that each of the character references MUST fill out and affadavit in front of a notary and have it notarized. That alone is a MAJOR pain in the ass and a huge inconvenience. Fuck that, I'll just wait a few years until I move to Florida then I'll buy a nice 1911 without all the beaurocratic bullshit.
An AR is definitely more dangerous than a pistol.
@@AFRO_KEEN Not more dangerous, more lethal. They are equally dangerous.
There is a simple answer to your question. People who know firearms know what you are saying from experience. However, our leaders seem not to have common sense because they live above the everyday person in a fantasy world.
You never see anti gun people walk around the streets in real life and show you how their view-point works in reality.
Agreed. I got a 12ga shotgun a few yrs ago (after NIC) no problem. A rifle, shotgun and pistol are all firearms protected by 2nd Amend.
I was advised by the State Police to leave my guns in Tennessee. I am at least 6th Generation from the Albany New York area. My Mom's side is from PA. I will study and review the laws in that State too. The road block between New York and Tennessee.. So, I am grateful for this video. I have friends and relatives still in the Upstate area. I plan on visiting cemeteries, Museums etc that I have in the past. Attend reunions, funerals, church services, etc. I will use this information and policies. This video gives me some freedom I didn't have in 2018 or didn't know I had. I am still researching policies in NYC. You see, the laws in New York are not perfect, but as long as I am camping, hunting, fishing etc, I am good to go, and this Sherriff will help get the State Troopers off my back when I visit. I believe in Permits because of training. Target practice, etc. But Blue States are nuta!!! I am a Centrist. An American. I don't look only at one Party. No one Party is always right. I respect a Republican Sherriff in a Blue State for his help. I will apply for a Fishing/ hunting license in NY. I finally got one recently in Tennessee. As a Law Abiding Citizen in a Red State, I will store this video in my pocket. Any advice on NYC would be helpful. I never wanted to see Upstaters needing to carry concealed etc and several cities are worse. But Gloveesville isn't the same before 1986. Times change. As a resident of Tennessee for 31 years and Florida for 5 years with no criminal record, I should have every right to carry in Upstate. To those rifle and shot gun happy, yes, they work, but you can conceal them while walking along the sidewalks.... 😆 🤣
went from shall not be infringed to this real quick
NYSPRA v Bruen has made most of NY's pistol application requirements unconstitutional. Four references is totally subjective.
And counties such as Suffolk and Nassau are far worse than the State Application, by requiring you disclose your manager’s information, they contact your workplace require a doctors write off if you took a pain pill for a bad back, it’s crazy.
@@TheSchmed Unfortunately, I live in Suffolk Co. To get a pistol permit (just for home defense) is a total pain in the ASS! I don't have Four references. Most people I know are scared of guns or are anti-2nd Amend. I could pay a pistol permit lic. service company $800. And the total cost to defend my home would be $800 plus $500 ~ $600 for the Glock 9mm I want.
@@rdnowlin1206 so do I. My son is applying, but like you, he does not have 4 references, many of his close friends are out of county, and 2 are cops. I’m surprised this is still allowed post Bruen. I know the struggle, I got mine back in 2010, and it took 4 months total. Prior to the SAFE Act, Albany dealt with county level applications, remember it’s a STATE license, but Suffolk (SC) treats it as a COUNTY license. Post SAFE Act Albany said we are only accepting the NY State License, but SC said, nope, they still want their more restrictive application used, so 3/4 of the wait time is their meaningless process. So until you go for your interview and submit “The Fingerprint Form”, that is when the STATE Application is only submitted and the 6 month countdown starts. So, the process before that, the county application, the everything prior to that means NOTHING in the eyes of the state, so in essence, they are making you apply twice for one license, at the county level and the state level. So what the state does not care about (certain legitimately Rx’d medications), can actually be a reason for denial in Suffolks eyes, although it is not a reason in the states eyes. It is a huge conflict in so many ways, and I am surprised there are not more legal actions taken, mainly from a conflict of medical privacy laws. Imagine if you had to disclose to the DMV you were HIV+ before you were allowed to get a drivers license, well you are required to do so to get a NY State Pistol License, granted not by the state but by the county of Suffolk, if you happened to take or took an Rx medication they want reported, as you need to state when and WHY and get write off from the prescribing physician. Where are all the gay rights groups? Crickets.
DO NOT USE AN OUTSIDE AGENCY TO DO THE PISTOL LICENSE FOR YOU, the SC Pistol License Division frowns on this.
Go to www.longislandfirearms.com and www.longislandgunclub.com, members will give you assistance for the process.
4 county residents? What about those who are introverted or simply really don't know many people? That is ridiculous IMO.
Your going to have to make fake friends or friend quatences. Maybe bob at the grocery store. A few friends here or there. I don't think the reference makes sense. Just do a background check.
You're gonna have to make another one of these. And it's going to be a LOT shorter.
That would be great.
So a person can do all of this and be completely qualified and the judge can still say no? Oh wait... NOT SINCE 6/23/22!!!!
He didn''t mention anything about mental illness. This video is incomplete.
You should be able to withhold your taxes for the state until they file all your permits it's once they get completed then you get your money
So my 2A right is subject to fees, safety course, references, background check, interview, and the states discretion?
In a state where $2.50 bus fare was considered a financial strain and unconstitutional to obtain a voter ID, yet fees in excess of $400 in some counties to obtain a pistol license to simply own a pistol is fine. For me, When I purchase a pistol, it requires I use a vacation day and drive over 75 miles total to the agency to add the pistol to my license.
They are so full of it!!!!!!! Seems to me they are trying to discourage ppl from even applying!!!!!
There’s a question on the application asking “ are you an unlawful user or addicted to any controlled substances “ what if your not an unlawful user and you have a legitimate reason to take say pain medication and it’s prescribed from a dr? Does that automatically disqualify you?
Never mind actually, you have to treat it like driving for example. “Don’t operate heavy machinery” on pills means aka don’t drive while on if. Same goes for this, one of things in my application (Suffolk county), “do not carry your handgun when consuming alcoholic beverages or taking prescription medications that may affect your absolutes and/or judgment.”
Criminals don’t follow any of these laws. lol
I have a feeling this guy doesn't agree with much of this nonsense.
After all the process get denied.
So do LEO have to go through the process for when they carry off duty?
yes
Interviewer should invest in a tripod for his phone
I need to leave this damn state
I left NYS in 2015. I live in Texas now and I had my LTC since 2015. Really easy. We can carry as many rounds as we want.
This is way to complicated to get a permit in NY
not to mention the process can take up to 1 year, I've seen it take longer in some area's and short in others, but never under 6 months. It's been that way since Mario Cuomo was Gov. of NY in the 80's the thief that Anti American was, his Son Andrew Cuomo was the same way.
looks like a lot of hoops and hooey hooey for exercising a right! lets hope scotus helps us with this!
Well actually yes during yot hunting season you're allowed to carry since most times it's late at night to late early morning unless ur staying during deer hunting season.
This will be a loophole I will use. State Troopers advised me in 2018 that I needed to leave my guns in Tennessee. Well, as far as Upstate is concerned, I believe I "got them on this one" now!!! 😆 🤣 As a 6th Generation from Upstate, a law abiding Citizen, I have every right to carry and defend myself.
@@marcbills8228 lol as long as you're in the right area and it's hunting season yeah definitely carry it. Some states allow coyote hunting all yr. Lol just make sure you have your hunting license on you aswell.
The issue is a NY State Pistol license is COUNTY SPECIFIC. Many counties have their own process for a STATE license, specifically he ones that are closer to NYC. If the same licensing process existed for a drivers license, which is not even a right, but a privilege, every ACLU/NYCLU dirtbag sheister would be filing grievances how a county level application should not be used for a STATE license. The process for Suffolk County adds 12-18 MONTHS, YES 12-18 MONTHS, to the process and is has nothing to do with you acquiring the license, just adds time and is meant to discourage you from applying as they require you disclose more personal information, specifically private Rx information which is in conflict with federal HIPPA laws. You would literally be required to disclose to an LEO agency that you are HIV+ (and gay), if you took a medication they want reported) to exercise a constitutional right. Imagine being required to tell the DMV you are HIV+ before being able to get a drivers license ? It would never be accepted, and driving is not even a constitutional right.
I would like to know I know BB guns are not allowed in New York what about air what is a procedure of having a permit for this type of rifle I do not see any anybody showing these on UA-cam whitesplaining their procedure of this type of rifle!
4 ref in ur county.....since i live right on the boarder of my county and pretty much everyone i rly know live in the county 5 steps to my right i cant ask them for a reference.....
Ridiculous
A person who has a State License to carry for Upstate wants to carry in NYC for self defense while touring etc. What can the person do? NYC is high risk compared to Upstate. Video or comments appreciated. I understand the reasoning behind not accepting each other's permits but this is ridiculous.
The course is $525-600 dollars.
Remember he doesn’t make the laws
I would like to know if the Fulton County Sheriffs Department has yet to investigate all of my reports that I have made on the drugging and raping, stalking including coordinated stalking, attempted murders,thefts in my home, illegal surveillance utilized in my home to human traffick me from my home in Broadalbin NY. Neighbor's involvement has been reported on MANY occasions by myself and I have been forced to flee my home across the country seeking help, while I am still currently being gangstalked and terrorized due to the inaction of the police department. As a taxpaying citizen, I have paid for these services which are being denied me by the Fulton County and New York state government entities responsible for providing me these services. I will continue to bring attention to these issues and the failures of the police department to provide me with the protection that I have asked for ad nauseum, and when I am able to acquire the appropriate representation, I will pursue these issues in a court of law against , not only the offenders, but the government agencies that refused to provide me with the appropriate protection, investigations into these matters and who gaslit me on every report, often even refusing to send a police car to my home, even when individuals who have already harmed me were coming onto my property.
Only GOD and the constitution is my license. I have the right to remain silent also
this sadly hilarious
NYS Sucks