I know its kind lazy from my part but I don’t play bdo in english so, can you list the sequence of buttons of the whole combo? (On keyboard), nice video btw :)
Here you go m8: Shift-LMB, F, Shift-F, Shift-X, F, Shift-C-RMB, Shift-Spacebar. For extender: Shift-Z, Shift-LMB, C, W-RMB. You can add RMB-LMB-Shift before extender.
how we building max dmg on ru_bdo: pre awakening - same, then: S+C to Violation LMB -> Dead Hunt two hits -> Violation LMB. Score: double floating combo, from first to last skill target on the ground.
Great combo, did some testing. If your timing is right, you can make shadow eruption invisible. Also, if some ppl could do some testing i would be glad. Shadow ignition > beat kick > engulfing shadow > TBS. Sometimes i cancel engulfing shadow animation, didn't know it was possible. Skill is on cooldown and it seems like i do dmg but i would like some people to test and confirm it for sure.
This is also the case with "ES -> Midnight Stinger -> Violation" (extender in the video). Engulfing consist of two skills in it, one being MS and the other - Crow Flare. You can kinda squeeze in the canceling skill into this (like MS, NC), halving its duration but also damage. It is same with Shadow Ignition. You can Night Crow just after SI's first hit, basicaly making it look like Shadow Eruption - very useful technique which I plan to make video about.
Informative and well done man. Thank you. does SE’s damage hit if you don’t see the spikes shoot from the ground? I’ve been doing this combo and slowing it down to make sure eruption hits but I feel like it allots too much time for opponent. Looking forward to group pvp combo vids
Looks like the issue of the invisible SE was fixed. I remember (more than a year ago) you were able to get the skill's addons on skill activation, now it looks like being on-hit only (you can check it by looking on addons' icons after the skill activation - they don't proc on dry shots). So, to proc the SE you need that spikes hit. Same for damages. Thank you for the support.
One thing I found out, placing shadow ignition in a hotkey would not "flow" together from shadow eruption For example, my shadow ignition was in "3", Shift F -> 3 will not work and my character will stop all action Shift F into Shift X "flows" smoothly
try to put X o n mouse key so u can shift+lmb keep shift pressed with f for kick and erruption than shift x i have f and x on seperate mouse keys work fine :P
@@TheLiquidshock Nice way to ease things for yourself. I'm using Razer Orbweaver and I tested many ways to input things. Still the best is to just combo them manually and to any player, I suggest changing keys layout to suit your mechanics.
You rock man, nice combos, still seems a little hard to master but very cool for the damage it does. Still the main problem of sorc for me is the movment, need to improve that ^^
Hey man.. I've tested this combo the weekend on dummies. I used to MS > scattering > SE > Ultimate SE > Shadow ignition and continue with either down smashes or violation combo ect. for the big combo. I liked the range and extension of Ultimate shadow eruption however with the longer animation it it interferes a lot with my group fights and i get caught. So i locked it now. and tried using this So MS > Shadow kick > Shadow Eruption .. Then I find the dummy gets knocked very far so you need a rushing crow and another MS to get on him or two dark flames or maybe c swap and shadow leap. Is this distance the same for pvp opponents? So I do 2 skills to get close to do Crow flare / bleak kick for the evasion debuff? Then I found doing a forward darkness released works well for a down smash or basically knock the guy down again so you can then do either Bloody calamity (for bleeding), Dark flame (for downed damage and burning) and then finish with engulfing shadows for SA to exit. Or you do c-swap TBS > vio > deadhunt combo and if you pull of blade of darkness for down smash it should work? I'm not the biggest fan of blade of darkness because with high ping i easily do not get the animation cancel Could you test it out on players? I cant find any of 50 guild members to duel me cause all afk, grind or pvp somewhere. This works obviously only well 1v1 but screw group fights I prefer 1v1 when i grind. So. MS > SK > SE > SI >.. Rushing crow and MS to get close > Crow flare/ Bleak kick > Darkness released forward > Then continue with either awakened or pre-awakened. I do like to add bleed, burn and pain dot together as well.
The problem with practice NPCs is that they take all the CC in, so it's rather bad target to test it. There's a limit on CCs you can hit the Players and a video about that in my "videos worth watching" playlist. If your target resists any of the floating from SE or SI (and even if they float anyway) you won't get to "Rushing Crow>Flare>DR" easily, like you described, because they will be already up and countering. I've faced this situation many times - if survived, target is getting up just after SI, most likely fully operating during Engulfing. That's why "Beat Kick in SI and the Blade of Darkness afterwards" are there - it is the last time to hit Down Smash in this combo, to keep them grounded just before they would get up and to easily hit extender like GRJ.
@@MasterPain_bdo You need ultimate Beak kick to be able to cancel SI? See my problem and with this crap 220ms ping is the cancel the bleak kick barely hits.. On the npc the SI knocks him pretty far so the rushing crow is for mobility it does not even reach the npc after the SI. So rushing crow and MS is only to get to the opponent. I have to use beak kick and Darkness released or blade of darkness for a downsash then. We also dont have the GRJ rage yet so regular GRJ sometimes falls short when its too slow. At least if they do get up and don't grab you you could get another knockdown. I used to duel a lot when I had lower GS in a low gs guild.. but these days people just grind and do their own thing. RBF is useless to practice. I end up going to nagas on arsha just to pvp and practice my skills on people lol
@@bloodwolf9428 I understand your concern, It's what I said initially - NPC dummies are worthless to test CC on them, becasue of that bouncing phenomenon. You would extremely rarely get your oponent to bounce that far (to need to reach her again, and this is most likely caused by air smash in SI), check out my PvP videos where you can see how this finishing combo (variants) works in 1v1 situations - I updated it here but everything up to SI is the same, and it is the part where you get all the CCs in with the limit (the floating from SE and SI hiting the limit). People don't bounce off the way, like you would need to reach them again. And no, you don't need the Ultimate in BK to cancel SI.
Hey bro, so I'm new to the Sorceress and I've been trying a lot skills trying to see what works with what. I came across about how to fight the Sorceress and it seems like every ability is unsafe?? I understand how to animation cancel but is that true? If so, how do you PvP with her because I love all of the creativity of this class but I don't want to get wrecked over and over again...
Feelsbad because it's true. Every Sorc's CC engagement is unsafe now, making it really hard. The best way to PvP with Sorc atm is to rather react than aggro. Use skills to poke and taunt enemy, forcing their engagement and look for opportunity to counter. It's mendatory to learn how to mix in the skills between s and C-swap guard. Also, realise that the NightCrow movement is actualy slower than that of like Ninjas or Maehwas. Don't be fooled by s. People tend to call Sorcs op just because of s, realizing it's the hardest class just after taking some time to actually play it. Also, I can honestly say that devs forgot about this class, as some of the skills really do nothing at all, they look good only on paper or are bugged. After all, I love Sorc class and it's very rewarding after you take your time to master her.
MasterPain Thank you for the information! I’ve been studying your videos and I play the sorceress like I’m playing a fighting game. I’m practicing with Bashims right now because I have low AP (141).
Hey, I'm not really a console player since I do not own one. Since it is the same game, you can use knowledge from my channel. The consoles lack some of the content though, which hasn't been implemented yet. But it will be, eventualy...
The cancelation is in the skill's decsription - press LMB during the Violation. You can also cancel it with other skills which do this naturaly, like Midnight Stinger, Night Crow (blink).
Yeah it's a common problem which unfortunately can not be dealt with. Console SI cast is like from hotbar. To make it fluid you'd need to cast it with keys combination, but game doesn't allow this on consoles.
@@MasterPain_bdo I've been getting around it by c swap into shadow ignition or c swap into cartians protection into shadow ignition (and then continue with an extender such as TBS into Grim Reaper's Judgement x2 charges) but I do not know if that workaround extends the duration of this combo too long to be useful on a knocked down enemy, or if it would interfere with the cc limit and therefore give them a 5 second cc immunity. Of course either of those results would then cancel out the usefulness of this combo as you had intended it to be. Anyway keep up the good work your videos are my go to guide as a new sorc.
@@MasterPain_bdo you are right, i didnt pay attention for this while following the combos, my eyes are old xD anyway very good video and it makes me go back to activ playing to try that out! keep up the good work! you earn my sub
The best spots to farm SP are these with dense mobs groups which are easy to kill. So here you can consider Valencia spots with 100 AP recommendation. And Nagas are best for it. I reached 61 farming these just for SP ;)
Soldiers grave apparently as well... close central spot. easy mobs and very dense.. Dont think its good for anything else than skill points though. Nagas/fogans would be better overall since you get good xp there with some SP
@@crimsoneye7246 i put the ss on a hotkey then se, so if the ss float is evaded the scattering shadow still can try to float the enemy. i used heedun's add on so its not on shadow kick. im just used to it, you'll have to do trial and error with sorc until you get comfortable in your own way of playing sorc.
Iv been using hold shift +f to cast both shattering and eruption , if I lock shattering and get shadow kick will it work the same way or am I forced to manually press f for shadow kick then press shift +f for eruption?
interstingly noone pointed out that this combo is trash... idk why first of all your starting with a floating combo thats fine because its one of the goto moves as a sorc but then u would use a knockdown instead of a bound to be able to downsmash the enemy and extend the combo even further because the way youre doing it is bounding the enemy with beackkick and then using blade of darkness which doesnt really deal much dmg and has no point because it doesnt downsmash bound targets so it would be way stronger to let the beackkick away kd the enemy get some filler dmg in, blade of darkness and grim reaper for example which would deal waay more dmg
im new at socccerer.. is that almost all of our skill doesnt have protection? then can you tell me a trick to make it work in real time scenario? thanks :)
Yeah man, sadly this is how it is for Sorceress. Skills volnerability is a thing here. Not many people are aware of this though. These combos are finishers so it means you need to disable your enemy first. And this strategy is meant mostly for 1v1 situations. In group fights the approach is more hit-and-run like and it is why most people consider Sorcs potent only on high AP levels.
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I know its kind lazy from my part but I don’t play bdo in english so, can you list the sequence of buttons of the whole combo? (On keyboard), nice video btw :)
Here you go m8: Shift-LMB, F, Shift-F, Shift-X, F, Shift-C-RMB, Shift-Spacebar. For extender: Shift-Z, Shift-LMB, C, W-RMB. You can add RMB-LMB-Shift before extender.
Finally!! Someone that knows how to use a mic for commentary.
Thank you for this video.
The best guide so far for sorceress out there
Thank you!
I love your videos man. Takes time to master but I'm pretty sure it's worth. Many thanks for your videos. Been of great help.
Thank you.
Works well on Xbox btw, nice job
Thank you.
Do you have xbox inputs m8? List wise ie lb+x etc, bk on sorc after o month off lol
Dimitri Patterson as below forgot to press reply
how we building max dmg on ru_bdo: pre awakening - same, then: S+C to Violation LMB -> Dead Hunt two hits -> Violation LMB. Score: double floating combo, from first to last skill target on the ground.
Great combo, did some testing. If your timing is right, you can make shadow eruption invisible. Also, if some ppl could do some testing i would be glad. Shadow ignition > beat kick > engulfing shadow > TBS. Sometimes i cancel engulfing shadow animation, didn't know it was possible. Skill is on cooldown and it seems like i do dmg but i would like some people to test and confirm it for sure.
This is also the case with "ES -> Midnight Stinger -> Violation" (extender in the video). Engulfing consist of two skills in it, one being MS and the other - Crow Flare. You can kinda squeeze in the canceling skill into this (like MS, NC), halving its duration but also damage. It is same with Shadow Ignition. You can Night Crow just after SI's first hit, basicaly making it look like Shadow Eruption - very useful technique which I plan to make video about.
Informative and well done man. Thank you. does SE’s damage hit if you don’t see the spikes shoot from the ground? I’ve been doing this combo and slowing it down to make sure eruption hits but I feel like it allots too much time for opponent. Looking forward to group pvp combo vids
Looks like the issue of the invisible SE was fixed. I remember (more than a year ago) you were able to get the skill's addons on skill activation, now it looks like being on-hit only (you can check it by looking on addons' icons after the skill activation - they don't proc on dry shots). So, to proc the SE you need that spikes hit. Same for damages.
Thank you for the support.
MasterPain yeah no worries man you play the coolest class and have helped me a lot, weeooweeooweee
One thing I found out, placing shadow ignition in a hotkey would not "flow" together from shadow eruption
For example, my shadow ignition was in "3", Shift F -> 3 will not work and my character will stop all action
Shift F into Shift X "flows" smoothly
Well, I recommend using only key combos with Rabams.
try to put X o n mouse key so u can shift+lmb keep shift pressed with f for kick and erruption than shift x i have f and x on seperate mouse keys work fine :P
@@TheLiquidshock Nice way to ease things for yourself. I'm using Razer Orbweaver and I tested many ways to input things. Still the best is to just combo them manually and to any player, I suggest changing keys layout to suit your mechanics.
Do any of you know what shift y is on xbox because my hot key is slow
You rock man, nice combos, still seems a little hard to master but very cool for the damage it does. Still the main problem of sorc for me is the movment, need to improve that ^^
Thank you. Keep on working, Sorc is very rewarding when played well.
Hey man.. I've tested this combo the weekend on dummies. I used to MS > scattering > SE > Ultimate SE > Shadow ignition and continue with either down smashes or violation combo ect. for the big combo. I liked the range and extension of Ultimate shadow eruption however with the longer animation it it interferes a lot with my group fights and i get caught. So i locked it now. and tried using this
So MS > Shadow kick > Shadow Eruption .. Then I find the dummy gets knocked very far so you need a rushing crow and another MS to get on him or two dark flames or maybe c swap and shadow leap. Is this distance the same for pvp opponents?
So I do 2 skills to get close to do Crow flare / bleak kick for the evasion debuff? Then I found doing a forward darkness released works well for a down smash or basically knock the guy down again so you can then do either Bloody calamity (for bleeding), Dark flame (for downed damage and burning) and then finish with engulfing shadows for SA to exit. Or you do c-swap TBS > vio > deadhunt combo and if you pull of blade of darkness for down smash it should work? I'm not the biggest fan of blade of darkness because with high ping i easily do not get the animation cancel
Could you test it out on players? I cant find any of 50 guild members to duel me cause all afk, grind or pvp somewhere. This works obviously only well 1v1 but screw group fights I prefer 1v1 when i grind.
So. MS > SK > SE > SI >.. Rushing crow and MS to get close > Crow flare/ Bleak kick > Darkness released forward > Then continue with either awakened or pre-awakened. I do like to add bleed, burn and pain dot together as well.
The problem with practice NPCs is that they take all the CC in, so it's rather bad target to test it. There's a limit on CCs you can hit the Players and a video about that in my "videos worth watching" playlist. If your target resists any of the floating from SE or SI (and even if they float anyway) you won't get to "Rushing Crow>Flare>DR" easily, like you described, because they will be already up and countering. I've faced this situation many times - if survived, target is getting up just after SI, most likely fully operating during Engulfing. That's why "Beat Kick in SI and the Blade of Darkness afterwards" are there - it is the last time to hit Down Smash in this combo, to keep them grounded just before they would get up and to easily hit extender like GRJ.
@@MasterPain_bdo You need ultimate Beak kick to be able to cancel SI? See my problem and with this crap 220ms ping is the cancel the bleak kick barely hits.. On the npc the SI knocks him pretty far so the rushing crow is for mobility it does not even reach the npc after the SI. So rushing crow and MS is only to get to the opponent. I have to use beak kick and Darkness released or blade of darkness for a downsash then. We also dont have the GRJ rage yet so regular GRJ sometimes falls short when its too slow. At least if they do get up and don't grab you you could get another knockdown.
I used to duel a lot when I had lower GS in a low gs guild.. but these days people just grind and do their own thing. RBF is useless to practice. I end up going to nagas on arsha just to pvp and practice my skills on people lol
@@bloodwolf9428 I understand your concern, It's what I said initially - NPC dummies are worthless to test CC on them, becasue of that bouncing phenomenon. You would extremely rarely get your oponent to bounce that far (to need to reach her again, and this is most likely caused by air smash in SI), check out my PvP videos where you can see how this finishing combo (variants) works in 1v1 situations - I updated it here but everything up to SI is the same, and it is the part where you get all the CCs in with the limit (the floating from SE and SI hiting the limit). People don't bounce off the way, like you would need to reach them again.
And no, you don't need the Ultimate in BK to cancel SI.
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Hey bro, so I'm new to the Sorceress and I've been trying a lot skills trying to see what works with what. I came across about how to fight the Sorceress and it seems like every ability is unsafe?? I understand how to animation cancel but is that true? If so, how do you PvP with her because I love all of the creativity of this class but I don't want to get wrecked over and over again...
Feelsbad because it's true. Every Sorc's CC engagement is unsafe now, making it really hard. The best way to PvP with Sorc atm is to rather react than aggro. Use skills to poke and taunt enemy, forcing their engagement and look for opportunity to counter. It's mendatory to learn how to mix in the skills between s and C-swap guard. Also, realise that the NightCrow movement is actualy slower than that of like Ninjas or Maehwas. Don't be fooled by s. People tend to call Sorcs op just because of s, realizing it's the hardest class just after taking some time to actually play it. Also, I can honestly say that devs forgot about this class, as some of the skills really do nothing at all, they look good only on paper or are bugged. After all, I love Sorc class and it's very rewarding after you take your time to master her.
MasterPain Thank you for the information! I’ve been studying your videos and I play the sorceress like I’m playing a fighting game. I’m practicing with Bashims right now because I have low AP (141).
Yeah, bdo takes alot from arcade fighting games. Sometimes I think it's too complex in CC matter.
isnt it easier to just press shift + f to turn on both SE and Scattering Shadow ?
where are you practicing the combos? as in where are the scarecrows found
the Battle Arena, under your game menu
Will you be making bdo videos for console players. I will.be playing sorceress on ps4. Thank you!
Hey, I'm not really a console player since I do not own one. Since it is the same game, you can use knowledge from my channel. The consoles lack some of the content though, which hasn't been implemented yet. But it will be, eventualy...
hey man! may i see your skill build for level 60
Check out my skills guide.
Do you think its possible to play sorc on 200ms ?
Well, keep in mind, that playing any multiplayer action game with that latency in general will be just unfair for you, but surely you can try...
hello, Is there a video about canceling the violation?
The cancelation is in the skill's decsription - press LMB during the Violation. You can also cancel it with other skills which do this naturaly, like Midnight Stinger, Night Crow (blink).
Shadow Eruption does not quickly flow into Shadow Ignition for me on Xbox.....
Yeah it's a common problem which unfortunately can not be dealt with. Console SI cast is like from hotbar. To make it fluid you'd need to cast it with keys combination, but game doesn't allow this on consoles.
@@MasterPain_bdo I've been getting around it by c swap into shadow ignition or c swap into cartians protection into shadow ignition (and then continue with an extender such as TBS into Grim Reaper's Judgement x2 charges) but I do not know if that workaround extends the duration of this combo too long to be useful on a knocked down enemy, or if it would interfere with the cc limit and therefore give them a 5 second cc immunity. Of course either of those results would then cancel out the usefulness of this combo as you had intended it to be.
Anyway keep up the good work your videos are my go to guide as a new sorc.
would you mind to show all your skill add-ons for this? thanks very much :-)
I'm literally talking about them when describing the combo and showing the skills page?
@@MasterPain_bdo you are right, i didnt pay attention for this while following the combos, my eyes are old xD anyway very good video and it makes me go back to activ playing to try that out! keep up the good work! you earn my sub
Thank you :)
Where would you recommend I farm skill points I'm lvl 57 and lacking a lot of your skills that you are calling out in this video
The best spots to farm SP are these with dense mobs groups which are easy to kill. So here you can consider Valencia spots with 100 AP recommendation. And Nagas are best for it. I reached 61 farming these just for SP ;)
I would suggest Fadus Habitat, with the current patch its the best place you can get skills points with ur current lvl
Soldiers grave apparently as well... close central spot. easy mobs and very dense.. Dont think its good for anything else than skill points though. Nagas/fogans would be better overall since you get good xp there with some SP
Dont forget the good old Sausan. Thats where i usually go, You can have perma Z buff since the mobs are so easy to kill ^^
but im used to scattering shadow and i locked the shadow kick, it works well too with scattering shadow tho xD
No problem with that, it is a matter of liking, although you miss the skill addons here.
u do scattering shadow mixed with shadow euroption right ? like turn on both skills with a single shift + f ?
@@crimsoneye7246 i put the ss on a hotkey then se, so if the ss float is evaded the scattering shadow still can try to float the enemy. i used heedun's add on so its not on shadow kick. im just used to it, you'll have to do trial and error with sorc until you get comfortable in your own way of playing sorc.
Iv been using hold shift +f to cast both shattering and eruption , if I lock shattering and get shadow kick will it work the same way or am I forced to manually press f for shadow kick then press shift +f for eruption?
@@Chevalier_knight i dont know how it works, sometimes it does cast ss sometimes it doesnt
best good
interstingly noone pointed out that this combo is trash... idk why first of all your starting with a floating combo thats fine because its one of the goto moves as a sorc but then u would use a knockdown instead of a bound to be able to downsmash the enemy and extend the combo even further because the way youre doing it is bounding the enemy with beackkick and then using blade of darkness which doesnt really deal much dmg and has no point because it doesnt downsmash bound targets so it would be way stronger to let the beackkick away kd the enemy get some filler dmg in, blade of darkness and grim reaper for example which would deal waay more dmg
Does the shadow eruption into ignition cancel work even if ignition is set to the hotbar?
It doesn't.
Engulfing shadow - MS - C wont go into violation smoothly, it always does the standard LMB attack, how do you do it ?
I guess you've mistaken the LMB with RMB for Violation.
@@MasterPain_bdo I feel dumb LOL
@@Frostbitexxxxx There's no turning back now! nyahnnnnnyahhahnyaaha
im new at socccerer.. is that almost all of our skill doesnt have protection?
then can you tell me a trick to make it work in real time scenario?
thanks :)
Yeah man, sadly this is how it is for Sorceress. Skills volnerability is a thing here. Not many people are aware of this though.
These combos are finishers so it means you need to disable your enemy first. And this strategy is meant mostly for 1v1 situations. In group fights the approach is more hit-and-run like and it is why most people consider Sorcs potent only on high AP levels.
Seems like a gud guide as long as you don't try it in pvp.
Well I do it, I see people do it so...
Mala guia xD
Whatever you say :>
So I have absolute shadow kick but I'm getting high kick off of the midnight stinger cancel. What am I don't wrong?
It just works this way, you need to lock the High Kick / Scattering Shadow to use Low Kick instead.
@@MasterPain_bdo Hey thanks for responding, another question, how do you cancel midnight stinger into violation? doesn't seem to cancel for me.
@@Drazuya It is MS -> C swap -> Violation (rmb+forward). And it will work only from the amulet stance.