These Decks Prove Yu-Gi-Oh's Oldest Formats Aren't Solved!
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
- Let's go over the results of the latest Fiber and Chaos tournaments, which feature some surprising top lists!
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Fiber is the Yu-Gi-Oh TCG format taking place in July 2003, with a card pool that goes up to Legacy of Darkness. This new pack introduces a lot of new jank archetypes, with the first actually distinctive tribal support beyond just straight stat buffs. Somehow despite the existence of cards like Fiber Jar and Yata Garasu the games are incredibly fun and interesting, and more balanced than the previous format Joey-Pegasus.
Chaos is a watershed format in Yu-Gi-Oh!'s history. While most commonly remembered for the advent of the Chaos monsters and the Tier 0 CED/Yata Lock, it also sees the introduction of a variety of powerful new tools for almost every other strategy introduced in the DM Era. Revisiting it now, can we discover new decks that can combat Chaos and diversify the meta?
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Fiber has been a surprising success in our little DM-era community!
Yeah, happy to see it continue to thrive!
Was a fun tourney for sure! Also the one thing i did differently was side deck painful choice for when im going first and bringing in dustshoots.. not sure if thats best though😂 thanks for the shoutout!
Glad you enjoyed it! Excited to see how you do in the next one!
Flash Assailant decks could always use Infernity strategy of setting monster cards as a backrow :).
Magical Scientist was incorporated with every standard Chaos list, just a heavy warrior variant and beatdown didn't play it. I personally like it since it can clear any monster, deal with recruiters, stop trap cards or crush to have a light in grave in addition to being dark. I know in a format with Fiber and CED life points matter more and card advantage less than in the future, but I still think 1000 is not too much. That being said, I can't say without a lot of testing if it's better than Exiled force, which can also clear any monster which seems like most common use case and is even easier to search with ROTA. It seems to be better in this tournament at the very least. I would certainly run it, but I'm not an elite player (or even a good player) by any means
P.S I see it was played heavily in the last edition as well (although notably, not by you :) ) and the first F/L cup, just not in the second one. It is a small sample though
I didn't even think of using the infernity meta for flash assailant but maybe we'll be seeing more people try that out next tourney lol.
As for Magical Scientist, I have a lot of thoughts on the card. I think it makes sense that a lot of decks here played it as a one of, because it's easily one of the most powerful cards in the game's history. It can also fet you out of some tricky spots by clearing some pesky monsters, shutting of spell/traps, etc. However, I do think the life point cost is pretty important, partially because most of the time with Scientist you're not just paying 1000 life points to remove a monster, you're also losing a bunch of life points when your opponent attacks over the Scientist on the following turn. Of course there are ways to protect Scientist, like Mirror Force or Ring, but you need to have them on hand to actually protect Scientist or hope that your opponent doesn't have a monster that can deal with it in hand. This to me makes Scientist too situational to be used in this format. Yes there are situations where it goes very well for you. But there are also situations where it either sits dead in your hand because you can't risk bringing it out unprotected, or your life points are too low to use it effectively, or your opponent doesn't have a board that Scientist is good into, etc. However, with the format being very high variance, I think a one of card won't necessarily make or break a given tournament run, which means that even if Scientist is not really the best in this format people can still win with it in their list. But that's just my opinion for why the card is subpar here, as you say the results speak a different story, so maybe I'm wrong in my reasoning here, only time (and more tournanents) will tell!
I think the sided Exchange from GMYFS is a cool idea. Taking a BLS or CED is just too funny
I did actually regularly run Exchange and Card Destruction during Chaos Format era with a lot of success. Neither of which were considered meta or staples for some reason. The number of times you'd see something with Confiscation or see them search out something off of Witch or Yata that you wanted or didn't want hitting the field was crazy. Card Destruction would work to dump lights and darks in the graveyard, or to disrupt whatever strategy they're cooking in their hand. Really really underrated cards.
When you are churning rapidly through both decks borrowing a win condition is nice ;)
Yeah really cool side deck techs in this tournament, that's definitely another area that can be experimented with more!
@@TeH.j0keR Exchange is a straight negative in card advantage, and using it with Confiscation, is not a really strong use case either, 2 card combo to have one card less. Card Destruction dumps opponents light and dark monsters as well. Both can be used in FTK and pseudo FTK decks (like this thing that got 2nd place) where you really need to draw some very specific cards, which wins you the game, but are pretty bad otherwise. Card Destruction can be decent with ThunDra, Exchange is straight up bad
The game plan is abusing the first level 8 monster we see ;)
As an RGT enthusiast, I approve!
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I played Bottomless Trap Hole because it banished the monster instead of sending them to the GY.
oooh that makes a lot of sense!
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not putting anything in extra deck is actually a commn mistake people do,having zero cards in extra deck acttually gives information about your deck to your opponend
Agreed! While that may not matter as much in formats before Yata, when there wasn't really any good way to use fusions, every edge you can get matters, so it's always good to err on the side of having a full fusion deck
no offense to anyone who plays fiber format but it seems to me like this format isn’t solved because there are very few people playing it; i.e. the 18 for a tournament
No offense taken, I agree with you on that! Part of the difficulty in covering these formats is that the low player count for these tournaments can lead to some underpowered decks doing very well. Is Flash Assailant actually a competent deck to build a card around or was it just the relatively few number of games AlephYa2 had to play to get into the top 3 that landed it there? It's extremely hard to say and while future events of this size may give us some idea, the format will need much larger events in the future to approach anything near a "solved" state. That's part of why I make these videos, to encourage more people to play these formats and grow these events!