Shes the "see what you made me do?" kind of abuser. She will always blame others to justify her horrible behavior. No matter what someone does, you are responsible for your own actions.
@@ladylonda6803 She is, but he is a victim of her physical and mental abuse. They both need some growing up to do and they'd better do it apart from eachother.
yup, shes hurtful immature and definitely not healed from past disappointments shes had with someone. the GED thing is not the real issue im sure and she probably embarrassed for getting checked in front of everyone
Exactly she was in this just to say that she was married she didn’t love this man for real for real she didn’t know this man for real for real she just wanted to hop on Marriage trade and didn’t want to actually do the work
@@SurrendertoBloom naw... Saying he's not a bad guy is not erasing any wrongdoings on his behalf nor the fact that he lied . They mentioned him lying about the GED? I might have missed that part as I don't remember rather I watched the entire episode or not but I believe I did. If we are going to draw comparisons then compared to most guest on this show alone he is definitely a lesser evil..I don't know these ppl personally and I'm comfortable with my observation for now...
@@SurrendertoBloom she literally wished death upon him and admitted to physical abuse. she’s a trash wife and person period. they should’ve taken the time to get to know eachother better for getting married that’s all but he took accountability for the shame he felt around the lies he told and she was just mean and nasty all around.
@@dominiquejenkins5495 She is not a bad person either. She is just being protective of her future and showing self love for herself. She is actually doing what’s best for him too. Now he can focus on himself and get help with his alcoholism. Now mama is about to realize just how deep this rabbit hole ‘s going. She doesn’t even realize that she is a Co- alcoholic now.
She's giving me big time narcissistic vibes. Aye, he lied...but he doesn't deserve what she said. That's sickening. Run mate..🏃♂️ and don't look back.
She said that over a GED. A DIPLOMA EQUIVALENT?? absolutely not. Truly hope he gets out of that horrible abusive relationship and takes good care of himself.
Honestly I would be mad if somebody I’m married to lied about simple or major thing but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t say they should die. And just blinded by her own pride.
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
@@ladylonda6803 i agree… if he can lie about something so simple especially when she laid it out before they got serious that she had “certain standards”…. For him to lie about this and a baby he could be lying about anything else… For her I believe she can’t get past it… she must feel like her whole relationship was a lie. For the people on the show to say “it’s small” when in fact she’s telling them it was big to her shows they didn’t care about how she truly felt or her standards.
hurt people hurt people. You can tell she has some childhood trauma that she hasn't healed from, that's what's making her so cold and that's what keeping her from growing mentally. From my experience once she finds peace and forgiveness for herself she'll be able to love people and love herself and have compassion for people, be able to open up and be vulnerable, she won't be so afraid of getting hurt. Mental Health and trauma it's a big issue in the black community. In the black community we normalize these issues and it's affecting all our relationships as beautiful black people. I'm praying for her healing🙏
I think he lied bc he *knew* she wouldn't be with him if she knew the truth. I also think this is a good example as to why we shouldn't hide or change ourselves for people we like. If they're worth it, they'll love you for who you are, and will help you become a better person, instead of putting you down for not already being the best version of yourself prior to being with them.
hurt people hurt people. You can tell she has some childhood trauma that she hasn't healed from, that's what's making her so cold and that's what keeping her from growing mentally. From my experience once she finds peace and forgiveness for herself she'll be able to love people and love herself and have compassion for people, be able to open up and be vulnerable, she won't be so afraid of getting hurt. Mental Health and trauma it's a big issue in the black community. In the black community we normalize these issues and it's affecting all our relationships as beautiful black people. I'm praying for her healing🙏
@@Purposeent Sounds like a bunch of excuses she don’t know what he went through as to why he didn’t finish school or why he drinks probably never bothered to find out neither she just rather be a abuser when she can just be alone and work on herself
@@kendallmax311 sounds like a bunch of excuses to a person that's looking at her actions and not the actual person, what made her make those actions. It's called compassion and God told us to have compassion for others. I'm praying that you find your compassion and I'm praying for her as well
@@Purposeent Compassion? She literally wished death on her husband because he didn’t tell the truth about his education that’s some sick shit and thanks but I don’t need you to pray for me I stay prayed up
I’m sorry lying to a person in the beginning very much so can cause trust issues later on down the line. Regardless if that stuff may be in the past those were minor lies, the relationship’s foundation was based off lies. If a person can lie about something sooo small like a GED they aren’t gonna be like “oh this a big lie let me not tell that one”. I also disagree with her being verbally abusive no matter what he said or did wishing death over someone is never ok. They both need counseling.
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
She did too much. Yes he lied but she is an abuser. She used that as an excuse to leave the relationship. You’re not that stuck on him not having a GED but you’re staying at his momma house. She got her diploma and ain’t doing nothing with it clearly because her employment should afford her a place to stay. She’s judgmental and y’all need to start holding women accountable for the BS they come up with to shame men and make themselves look like the victim. She wanted a marriage so bad for the look but didn’t even take the time to really get to know him. She can find a man with a GED or diploma that’s a bum or worse than him. That means nothing in the world we live in today. So many ways to make revenue without the diploma. She seems to never be receptive to his feelings just hers. She wanted a look not love. Now look at her looking childish.
@@ladylonda6803lol girl we know it’s you from the video . Stop copying and pasting your responses everywhere. The stuff you said isn’t justified , it’s wrong. He was wrong to lie and you were wrong to wish him death. End of story
She’s BEEN gone from this relationship/marriage. She wicked & childish asf, her expression after his apology literally almost made me vomit 🤢 Then she said lying should have the consequences of death & I actually did vomit 🤮 Wow smh he can & WILL do so much better without her ! She will tear him down, she doesn’t like him as a person, she doesn’t respect him. I pray for his strength & healing ❤️🩹🙏🏽✨ I’m glad Karamo called her out on letting it go ASAP !
The fact that she doesn't think that she rushed into marriage after only 6 months and literally thought that guys don't have feelings tells me instantly that she is immature.
Yeah if she wishes death over words humans should not feel like that 🤦🏾♀️ her entitlement was out of this 🌎 He don’t need to be with her. Hopefully she matures and get that character flaw adjusted before someone adjust her Jaw 🥊 She mad disrespectful
I have been in a relationship when I was lied to from the very beginning. It does hurt!!! But he does not deserve to die!! She has some serious growing up to do!!! You can tell he is a good person. She will regret this. He needed support & love!!
She regrets marrying a lier. She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
Finding things out after you’ve committed to a person is very hurtful, the hurt and deceit evokes a different level of anger, which mostly comes out in an outrageous manner and reveals a side of you that you yourself had never thought you possess... it took a lot of patience for my partner to nurse my wounds and we’re still working on things to try and adjust to the information that came to light after, but that wound does eventually stops bleeding and it’s so much better if you both put effort and go through it together in love, care and patience. I wish these two nothing but the best, even if the best calls for them to go their separate ways♥️
She walked off embarrassed due to being an immature asshole. SMH . She has a lot of growing up to do. I guess she thought somebody was gonna be on her side. He deserves someone he can vulnerable and honest with.
@@candecewade2829 🤦🏾♂️ it’s not even abt standards Candece it’s about getting married prematurely and understanding your partner. I’m not excusing either one of their behaviors but I’m pretty sure she’s the reason for his drinking problem, based off of the little 15 minutes we were able to see her true character
@Candece Wade, you need to be better. Never wish someone death. Heal and reduce your arrogance girl. Unless you mature, ain't no guy going to settle with you for long.
She's gonna have a hard time dating and being in a relationship. If you equate a lie to someone needing to die is very barbaric and tyrannic. She's gonna stay immature and lonely if she doesn't grow up
Yes!! and what I got from it is that she was needing an excuse to get out of the marriage instead of being mature enough to say that isn't what she wanted any longer.
They both need to go their separate ways. I could tell she doesn't even want to be in the marriage. She says those things because she is trying to push him away, just leave girl. They moved waaaay too fast.
Exactly! She was honest and he wasn’t. She admitted her anger made her say something bad. I would be pissed too. People are too hard on her. She gave up everything to be with him and he didn’t reciprocate. I wish her success and a nice clean divorce.
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
@@ladylonda6803 as young person, 1 please don’t speak for us and 2 no it isn’t a GED isn’t a gage for anything people like her and you are just disgusting and abusive people she doesn’t have the right to GUILT someone for things out of their control he literally said he didn’t get it because of his environment and you can literally have an amazing career without a GED so her excuses were null in void. She is walking proof that beauty doesn’t equate to a good person. Like Karamo said YOU AND HER HAVE SOME MATURING TO DO. Be blessed.
I hate how they're gaslighting her if u can lie about something small u will lie about everything else she's not wrong for how she feels, I wouldn't trust him either
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
@Lovely Wilson. You don't know what all consequences she is dealing with due to his abusive lies. The consequences of a lie can be very detrimental and should not be taken lightly. The consequences of lies can cause people to lose their life, job(ability to protect and provide), health, savings, safety, and the list goes on and on. You can't violate someone and expect them to be the bigger person. She reacted out of trauma. She's young and inexperienced with dealing with liers. She said abusive words. A lier is barbaric. Period. Example- If someone lied and it caused irreversible harm to the person you love most in the world , what words would you have for them? How do you think the victims of Bernie Madoff feel about him? She is a victim of his lies. That lie influenced the trajectory of her life. You can't minimize that lie. It was important to her. It's no excuse for his lies. He caused the toxic relationship. She would have rejected him because he didn't meet her standards.
"What do he do"? The mother asks. I understand the inclination to get involved to help your children. However, in a marriage your adult child has taken an oath to abide by, I think one should be wary of getting involved. One has no idea what types of horror your beloved child is putting their spouse through. Your child is a completely different person as your child than the way they show up as a spouse. The wife does seem hard and unfeeling, yet mom may not know the FULL extent of what her son did to anger his woman. The wife KNOWS. The mother likely assumes. She's on the outside (of what they partially CHOOSE to tell her ) looking in.
The issue is not the GED but the Lies. I gather that she is saying that trusting his word is difficult Faithful in little faithful in much. So if he can't be truthful about this seemingly small matter (and it's not small; it has implications for starting point, and time for building success as a family and about sharing just burdens), how could she trustfully expect the truth about the more "consequential" issues between them?
He got a car bc she pushed him, he would’ve grown and got it together but she’s abusive in all ways. There was no motivation for him to do better, not even for himself she ripped all that man’s value away he thought he was useless
When you're sick and tired of being sick and tired, you just want to get out. People get tired of not trusting someone after they've put themselves out there to be open, honest and loving. She is very immature and it shows but I hope they both heal from this.
Exactly, she is to young and immature to be in any sort of a relationship plus she’s abusive. He needs to face his past he is a main filled with pain, you can see his hurt. I pray he gets therapy and leaves the bottle alone. Educate and elevate
That girl didn't do her due diligence trying to find out more about her Fiancé... If she had the super hero complex and thought she could change him, then it was still her fault because she ignored the red flags that she had during the dating season. She is using the GED snd alcohol lie to as an excuse to get out. She has someone else already.
This may have been a blessing in disguise for him. She may have been looking for a way out for sometime. She may have more unspoken shame than whatever mistakes he's made in the past. Until she comes out of victim mode and fix herself, she'll never be happy whether single, married, divorced, dating, or anything in between. Brother, there are plenty of women who are waiting to love and help build you. You'll do well. Don't look back.
me personally, I would feel bad as a WOMAN and wife that he felt he needed to lie about his GED. I would understand his reasoning for lying and even attempt to help him get it. The bashing and holding on to that little lie is ridiculous!! That’s a very immature, nonchalant, judgmental, goofy LITTLE GIRL and that MAN deserves better! IT’S HER LOSS
No, she's the victim here. She was lied to and betrayed. She clearly stated that having a GED was a preference and standard for her. That's equivalent for a man preferring a woman to be a particular size, no makeup, and no hair weave. A woman's preference of a man with a specific income range, no more than two baby mama's, and good credit. The problem is the lie. Example- how would you feel if you thought you were married to a woman, but found out years later that she was born a male?????? A lie for one person might be minor to another person. You are rating the lie. The lie itself is the problem. She feels betrayed. She can't trust him. He is not who he portrayed himself to be. He is young, and hopefully does not have a pattern of lying. I hope this will cause him to make better decisions in the future.
She feels that someone lying to her is worth their life. Everyone has lied at some point in their life, should we all die for this sin? She does not understand that our tongue is powerful, and we can truly speak things into existence. We can also bring bad on ourselves by wishing bad on others, I could never understand the mentality of some people. If someone does wrong to you, walk away..No one is obligated to treat you right and be the person who you want them to be. My advice is to gain more knowledge, it's not fully about the relationship, her mind is also not pure. She needs to seek God and read her bible.
Ok, the marriage is over but what is driving him to lie and drink like that?!? He's still living with his mom, and his mom says she feels like he also hides his drinking from her, and they don't know how to love each other?!? What was his foundation like growing up?
I feel her. When you lie you’re a liar. It’s not up to her to let go and forgive because she was lied to. If you lie about something small you will definitely lie about something big. He’s an alcoholic and she was tricked into a marriage. It’s not ok. I’ve been there done that. I was stuck and disappointed when I found out all of the truth’s. And the lies never stopped.
She wasn’t tricked into anything 😂that’s her own fault don’t marry someone you haven’t even knew for a year like what is wrong with you people nobody forced her to say yes she’s clearly immature she should’ve got to know him better so that’s on her regardless if he lied about education that’s something you can fix people go through worse
@@Xx.darkroses That’s your opinion. She fell in love with the person he told her he was which was a lie. He was immature for lying to her. Tricking her to be with him. Tell the person who you are up front and let them decide if they want to be with you. He’s immature for lying about a GED. Her lesson is not to believe what someone says but to actually see it. He’s a liar and will only continue to lie. He broke her trust with his lies now wants to apologize and expect her to believe him. From my experience the lies will continue to come if you stay. Thank God she was smart enough to stop it here. Maybe he’ll learn not to lie to get someone because it will back fire.
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
She is entitled to feel how she feels! Ppl don’t get to determine the magnitude of a persons hurt BUT sis if u feel that way LEAVEEEEEE. U can’t say hurtful things back and stay it’s toxic and you become part of the problem
She is showing up the way her mother or whoever raised her showed up for her!!! It took me a very long time to acknowledge that my mothers trauma/story was not mine! She definitely feels likes is so right and he wronged her in the worst way I hope they go their separate ways and she get the healing and help she deserves!!! Same for him!
I agree she may have felt pressured or even persuaded to get married. But at the end of the day you have to think things through and that comes with “Maturity” marriage is sacred, the two becomes one. And when two still have wounds that have not being patched and heal, it’s gonna be hard down the road.. when the honeymoon phase is over, that when the relationship began to squander. These two seem like great people, but grow, and love yourself before making these commitments.
I feel so sad for her. This man loves her and part of the reason he lies is out of fear of losing her. He wanted to be that hero, the best friend, her safety and lover so he pretended and it backfired on him.....
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
He lied, and she can't trust him.She clearly stated that having a GED was a preference and standard for her. That's equivalent for a man preferring a woman to be a particular size, no makeup, and no hair weave. A woman's preference of a man with a specific income range, no more than two baby mama's, and good credit. The problem is the lie. Example- how would you feel if you thought you were married to a woman, but found out years later that she was born a male?????? A lie for one person might be minor to another person. You are rating the lie. The lie itself is the problem. She feels betrayed. She can't trust him. He is not who he portrayed himself to be. He is young, and hopefully does not have a pattern of lying. I hope this will cause him to make better decisions in the future.
She is also a lier and she feels superior to him so she can lie and be abusive. People here that think she is not in the wrong as well also have life issues as well as this couple. Being abusive because someone else is also abusive? Makes no sense and is not rational. Both young people will be very unhappy until they figure that out.
He’s the one that dodged the bullet really. Not only were her words abusive, her whole demeanor and body language was off putting. Just full of anger no feelings or anything…It’s kind of giving serial 🔪🔪🔪. I hope they both grow and find their person.
Agreed I'm telling you she is heartless ,a black dead cold heart she has 🖤 he can do better with someone thats not going to treat him like he's there doormat it's sad because he can't even think enough of himself to leave and not allow someone to treat him like shit. Also no offense she okay but she ain't all that homegirl needs to look in the mirror and check herself because she has alot of self work and self improvement to do her damn self her attitude stinks, she's arrogant as hell and shes looking more masculine than he is.
I got married after 10 months of dating and we’ve been happily married 8 years later. I think she’s looking for a reason to leave, I’m sorry that’s what it gives off. And she has no respect for him, and the verbal abuse that’s alot, very toxic. They should go there separate ways.
If anything including a GED is SO important ask for proof! Is she really concerned about the drinking..🤔Maturity needs to kick in ..she will probably say marriage sucks! 😮😊
I don’t agree with her choice of words but to some people lying is a deal breaker and taken very seriously. I don’t think it’s totally okay to dismiss that this girl was lied to and truth be told she would have never went forward if she knew. Shame or not that man didn’t love her frfr because you couldn’t be able to keep that lie for long. Also we don’t know what her past is with liars. She could be traumatized from men or people lying to her. And I felt her on being honest so you expect honesty back from someone. I hope they both find healing
I agree, but she have to learn that you don't earn the right to be abusive and cruel just because you got hurt. If you plan to stay in the marriage, it's completely counter-productive.
@S.Mcfadden. She was a victim of his lies. You can't expect a victim to be the bigger person. Lies have detrimental consequences. Lies cause death, loss of jobs, loss of health, loss of safety, and the list goes on. She reacted to his abuse with words. Example- If a person's lie caused irreversible harm to the person that you love the most in life, how would you feel about them? How do you think Bernie Madoff's victims feel about him? She's inexperienced in dealing with liers and deceivers. She don't plan to stay in the marriage. It's good she walked away from him because his lies brought out the worst in her. He is the problem! She is the victim.
As soon as Lucretia found out Josh had an alcohol problem (and didn't tell her), she should have left him. Being with a person who has an alcohol/an addiction problem can be an emotional and financial nightmare. Who lies about having a GED? That is not a little white lie. That affects employment opportunities and the married couple's income. Who lies about potential children? That affects the couple's income income when it comes to child support. In other words, Lucretia will be carrying his financial burdens and suffer the side effects of his alcoholism. Lucretia is right...if he lied about these things, how can you trust that he is not going to lie about cheating and anything else? Karamo was way too hard on Lucretia (and unfair to her) and way too easy on Josh. Lucretia may not been justified with the death comment, but she was justified with the rest of the 95% of her grievances and feelings about her husband. Glad she walked off stage.
Y'all in these comments acting like dealing with someone with an addiction is an easy choice to make. She wasn't wrong for not wanting to be with him. He wouldn't even acknowledge his addiction until they were on stage.
She doesn't love nor respect him. But marrying someone after only 8 months of dating makes me wonder how she feels about herself. Shy extremely angry and hostile.
she doesn’t want to be with him anymore, that’s why she’s acting like that. she wants him to make the first moves into calling it off and getting a divorce. Also, without a HS diploma or GED, I want to know how he’s doing in life career wise and financially.
I'm 50 yrs old without a HS diploma or GED and God has blessed me with a good job in a refinery , I have a nice house my wife has 2 cars and I have two trucks so I pray this young man find his way because it's surely not over for him and this situation probably only motivated him more to rise above his current situation
Lying about a GED is MAJOR. That effects future earning potential and quality of life. Just like they aren’t allowing her to make excuses about her harsh statements, they shouldn’t allow him to make excuses about that lie. It’s very hard to trust a person after they’ve lied to you
@Thee Misfit. Obviously he cares. He stated that it causes him shame. I'm not bashing him for not having a GED. She clearly stated that having a GED was a preference and standard for her. That's equivalent for a man preferring a woman to be a particular size, no makeup, and no hair weave. A woman's preference of a man with a specific income range, no more than two baby mama's, and good credit. The problem is the lie. Example- how would you feel if you thought you were married to a woman, but found out years later that she was born a male?????? A lie for one person might be minor to another person. You are rating the lie. The lie itself is the problem. She feels betrayed. She can't trust him. He is not who he portrayed himself to be. He is young, and hopefully does not have a pattern of lying. I hope this will cause him to make better decisions in the future.
@@ladylonda6803 no shit Sherlock. I’m talking about the woman. I know what the man went through. Shit I went through the same shame so I know the journey. He will be fine.
@Thee Misfit. His shame caused the relationship to become toxic. He was able to get access to her due to lies. His internal problem led to emotional abuse for her. She feels betrayed and does not trust him. I'm able to look at both perspectives. You seem to be sympathetic towards him, and you've called her a bitch. Stop blaming her. She is the victim. She responded with mean words out of hurt and trauma.
This is my opinion being 19 in today's world, buckle up it's a long ride 😆- I feel like this would have been fine to just let go if they were still boyfriend and girlfriend, but the thing about marriage though is that if a person has done something that wasn't committing adultery against you then you don't just up and leave that person. I don't know why people don't take marriage seriously but for me it's very spiritual and it's just wrong to rush into a marriage that you don't value. We all have made mistakes on things because we're only human. You don't have the right to hold something that someone is trying to be better at over their head. I feel like a lot of people of my generation just won't understand how serious this is. I find it a shame that you have 90 year old couples that have been together for decades regardless of the rough patches in their marriage but they still stayed and kept their commitment and vows to die with this person through sickness and health and all other things that may come. Meanwhile, we have people today that divorce multiple times over petty stuff that can easily get solved through counseling and prayer. If you keep treating a marriage like it's some little high school relationship then you'll be miserable because you first have to understand the importance of it. Show grace to the ones that you claim you love and forgiveness ❤
Shame is so powerful…and painful. I feel for him about his shame around his education. While I understand his shame, I’m so glad there are ways to remedy his inadequacy educational shame. He seem on the right tract! Props to him for being vulnerable.
I DONT condone what he does and what he has lied about but She’s alot … like she’s ruthless and heartless . People like her need a reality check to humble her . She’s aggressive & combative as well Heck no …
I agree with you, she blames him for everything. She wanted to get married, she is running away from something. Something in her past is weighing heavily on her.
Disagree. Understand how ppl can deceive you to get what they want and you have to pay for it. Imagine if someone told you they were a doctor.. and was really in special education. She may have been a virgin.. and married him or slept with him on the premise of what he told her.. now she’s stressed. And he won’t let her leave, continuing to pull on her heart strings. She didn’t reject him. He rejected himself. Could she deliver things less harshly sure. But who can tell this young lady how to feel
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
The comments…why y’all acting like that level of deception/delusion is okay? Lmao how you lie about your qualifications and then be mad that she’s judging you for not having them?
Misogyny they hate women. She's a bad person for sure, but to act like he's innocent is wild af. He lied MULTIPLE times, and a GED is NOT minor. Also he calls her insecure and lied out of shame......
@@ALARMINGadaora girl tell me about it. I watched it and am mind boggled by the comments, it's like when you are bigoted your sense of reality is so skewed it's pathetic honestly. She toxic but her death comment doesn't erase everything, they hyper focused on the wrong mf thing. "He lied cause he loves her🥺", fuck outta here with that!
At the end of the day she was deceived! No matter how small the lie is and she feels like she was dooped into marriage! Idc if he lied about having a cat then turned out he had one! How dare you make her live with a cat when that’s not what she wants! 🤦🏾♀️ he knows had he told her all those things UP FRONT she wouldn’t be his wife..
@@ladylonda6803 his lies still cannot equate her telling him to die .... she could NEVER be the VICTIM. She puts hands on him but SHE is the VICTIM ? SHE is both PHYSICALLY and MENTALLY abusive but SHE is the VICTIM .
Every body gaining up on her,but how would you feel if everything your husband told you about his self was a lie and he have a addiction on top of the lies ,the trust would be out the window, sample lies lead to big lies,yes she have anger issues and that needs to be worked on , she's young so they don't no how to manage a lot of there emotions,but you can't lie your way in someone life and think it's ok,she is mad because he is not the man she thought she married.period..
Ion like to be lied to either, I hate that shit! It’s like I’m being forced an it’s not fair don’t device me! I literally left my husband because of a lie he told me from when we was engaged! I’m like her on some real shit! Who wants to be with someone that lies to you on purpose it’s like eff my feelings only yours matters yeah y’all can say she wanted a way out that’s because y’all are liars try not being one and be truthful and have someone trap you into a marriage or a damn baby all behind a damn lie especially knowing you came to them completely as yourself that’s shit ain’t right!
Her delivery was totally wrong….her moral beliefs and values of her dream husband was false and he knew her standards was high so he lied. She should be mad at herself for not dating him longer than 6-8 months 🤷🏾♀️
10:35 hello get a divorce. He deserves someone better anyways. Someone that is capable of supporting his goals and dreams not someone who's constantly putting him down.
Thank you exactly I understand why she mad but her words are cut throat. He shouldn’t have lied tell the truth and why your at where you are cause for women especially any woman with abuse or whatever in they pass one lie becomes every word is a lie real quick. She one of those clearly, he need to Heal and find himself no need to blame her for his drinking he has an addiction she may be a trigger that’s it but anything can make him drink more.
She isn’t mad about that it’s clearly something deeper than that because the way she handled it over him lying about education shows that’s it’s deeper and the fact she wished death upon him proves it she haves things she needs to heal with herself and so does he and that’s why you don’t marry people you haven’t even known for a year 😂that’s her fault nobody forced her to marry him and he has things that he needs to heal as well and when you both need healing how could you possibly love someone else before you truly love yourself and happy with yourself
Whewwww I need a damn drink and she’s not even my girl. Was he wrong for lying? YES , but girlllllllllllll. She’s definitely an abuser both physically (cause he said she puts hands on him) and verbally (cause wishing dead on someone over them lying about a GED is never that dead) imagine if he was actually cheating and she had proof of that 😬 she could probably snap and commit the crime her damn self . They don’t belong together. Bless her heart though.
Truthfully I can validate her experience. No excuses for any verbal abuse. The issue is SHE continued to build a relationship with someone who was deceptive originally. She resents him now. Ive learned it’s critical to identify honest persons (not potential) in order to build the trustworthy foundation. Accountability for me. Her walking off was the act of accountability. GOD BLESS both and let there be true healing involved. ☀️
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
I don't think she wanted him in the first place. You don't talk to someone you respect and want like that. Maybe just wanted somewhere to lay her head and now it seem like she found somewhere else..🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
she just has high standards,morals & values & she don’t play about em..plus she’s being brutally honest..it’s alarming yes but she’s taking accountability for things that she’s done atleast & ppl will call that “crazy” or whatever you wanna call it..but indeed moving too fast will always cost you & here you have it
I DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR HER AT ALL?! THERE'S NO WAY YOU DON'T NEED TO MARRY SOMEBODY TO DAMN FAST?! PLUS, SHE'S 23 YEARS OLD AND SHE SHOULD'VE BEEN LIVING HER BEST SINGLE LIFE?!
She is young and inexperienced with liers and deceivers. Some people marry young and it works out fine. Young people don't know that it can take many years to truly know someone.
With a person that did not have a diploma and got a GED I feel offended with this. He can always got back, and get it . Doesn’t make him any less of a man. She needs to work on her vocabulary, and expressing herself.
Just like Koramo said, she has no emotional maturity and intelligence to be married. If you can't take the stress of your spouse not having GED what are you going to do when those kids start coming, when financial problems start coming, when unemployment and lay offs get in the way. He should equally work on himself. He clearly has deeper issues than GED. he needs to get help for alcoholism and possibly depression before he starts playing house with the next woman
Telling somebody they should die on the street because they lied about having a GED is evil. She’s never gonna be happy until she changes her judgmental ass mindset. How you classist as hell but out here marrying anybody who treats you nice for 2 weeks? Make it make sense. She needs to get her mind right before she dates anybody else & that’s way more important than a car or a GED.
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. She feels violated. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
Shes the "see what you made me do?" kind of abuser. She will always blame others to justify her horrible behavior. No matter what someone does, you are responsible for your own actions.
I hope he gets his GED, becomes sober, excels and makes her eat her words.
She is the victim if his lies.
@@ladylonda6803 She is, but he is a victim of her physical and mental abuse. They both need some growing up to do and they'd better do it apart from eachother.
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I love this comment
People are so confused now 😅he lied to her she found out sober than most people I’m glad she did
The way she patted him and told him "Let's go ahead and end this", tells me everything I need to know.
yup, shes hurtful immature and definitely not healed from past disappointments shes had with someone. the GED thing is not the real issue im sure and she probably embarrassed for getting checked in front of everyone
She has absolutely no love for him at all. The way she patted him was crazy. She should come with a warning ⚠️
Exactly she was in this just to say that she was married she didn’t love this man for real for real she didn’t know this man for real for real she just wanted to hop on Marriage trade and didn’t want to actually do the work
She’s miserable and deserves no one!!!!
I actually said ..Good God she hates him..not dislike..HATE
This guy has shame about not getting a GED ..... Some ppl can care less.. he's going to be alright because he's definitely not the bad guy on stage🎉❤
This comment is beautiful and so true you have dumb educated people.
@@SurrendertoBloom naw... Saying he's not a bad guy is not erasing any wrongdoings on his behalf nor the fact that he lied . They mentioned him lying about the GED? I might have missed that part as I don't remember rather I watched the entire episode or not but I believe I did. If we are going to draw comparisons then compared to most guest on this show alone he is definitely a lesser evil..I don't know these ppl personally and I'm comfortable with my observation for now...
@@SurrendertoBloomdid she not physically abuse him.. stop standing for nothing bc ur going to fall for everything 😭
@@SurrendertoBloom she literally wished death upon him and admitted to physical abuse. she’s a trash wife and person period. they should’ve taken the time to get to know eachother better for getting married that’s all but he took accountability for the shame he felt around the lies he told and she was just mean and nasty all around.
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She is not a bad person either. She is just being protective of her future and showing self love for herself. She is actually doing what’s best for him too. Now he can focus on himself and get help with his alcoholism. Now mama is about to realize just how deep this rabbit hole ‘s going. She doesn’t even realize that she is a Co- alcoholic now.
She's giving me big time narcissistic vibes.
Aye, he lied...but he doesn't deserve what she said. That's sickening.
Run mate..🏃♂️ and don't look back.
She said that over a GED. A DIPLOMA EQUIVALENT?? absolutely not. Truly hope he gets out of that horrible abusive relationship and takes good care of himself.
Honestly I would be mad if somebody I’m married to lied about simple or major thing but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t say they should die. And just blinded by her own pride.
Then she would not say she didn’t mean what she said, she full on strands by that statement about death bc a small lie… that’s sick
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
@@ladylonda6803 i agree… if he can lie about something so simple especially when she laid it out before they got serious that she had “certain standards”…. For him to lie about this and a baby he could be lying about anything else… For her I believe she can’t get past it… she must feel like her whole relationship was a lie. For the people on the show to say “it’s small” when in fact she’s telling them it was big to her shows they didn’t care about how she truly felt or her standards.
@@ajayyamour745 its abt the fact that she wished him dead...
@@Animation_lover. it’s also about the fact that people will go to extremes to lie and deceive people just to be apart of their lives
Living with her would drive someone to drink, she is so unforgiving. She holds on to petty stuff.
Yesss she does
😂😂me tooo
hurt people hurt people. You can tell she has some childhood trauma
that she hasn't healed from, that's what's making her so cold and that's what keeping her from growing mentally. From my experience once she finds peace and forgiveness for herself she'll be able to love people and love herself and have compassion for people, be able to open up and be vulnerable, she won't be so afraid of getting hurt. Mental Health and trauma it's a big issue in the black community. In the black community we normalize these issues and it's affecting all our relationships as beautiful black people. I'm praying for her healing🙏
She is very immature.
Why do u want someone to forgive all the time fuck that the first time you fuck up you out the door
I think he lied bc he *knew* she wouldn't be with him if she knew the truth. I also think this is a good example as to why we shouldn't hide or change ourselves for people we like. If they're worth it, they'll love you for who you are, and will help you become a better person, instead of putting you down for not already being the best version of yourself prior to being with them.
I agree
Your comment is the second one I agree with everyone is downing her.
@@TimeisNeutralbc she told him to die ???
Agreed. Be honest.
You so right
She sounds like an abuser! Even if he lied, you don’t lay hand on another person let alone your spouse and you don’t degrade them through text
Girl and you sound like enabler. 🤷🏽♀️
hurt people hurt people. You can tell she has some childhood trauma
that she hasn't healed from, that's what's making her so cold and that's what keeping her from growing mentally. From my experience once she finds peace and forgiveness for herself she'll be able to love people and love herself and have compassion for people, be able to open up and be vulnerable, she won't be so afraid of getting hurt. Mental Health and trauma it's a big issue in the black community. In the black community we normalize these issues and it's affecting all our relationships as beautiful black people. I'm praying for her healing🙏
@@Purposeent Sounds like a bunch of excuses she don’t know what he went through as to why he didn’t finish school or why he drinks probably never bothered to find out neither she just rather be a abuser when she can just be alone and work on herself
@@kendallmax311 sounds like a bunch of excuses to a person that's looking at her actions and not the actual person, what made her make those actions. It's called compassion and God told us to have compassion for others. I'm praying that you find your compassion and I'm praying for her as well
@@Purposeent Compassion? She literally wished death on her husband because he didn’t tell the truth about his education that’s some sick shit and thanks but I don’t need you to pray for me I stay prayed up
I’m sorry lying to a person in the beginning very much so can cause trust issues later on down the line. Regardless if that stuff may be in the past those were minor lies, the relationship’s foundation was based off lies. If a person can lie about something sooo small like a GED they aren’t gonna be like “oh this a big lie let me not tell that one”. I also disagree with her being verbally abusive no matter what he said or did wishing death over someone is never ok. They both need counseling.
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
She did too much. Yes he lied but she is an abuser. She used that as an excuse to leave the relationship. You’re not that stuck on him not having a GED but you’re staying at his momma house. She got her diploma and ain’t doing nothing with it clearly because her employment should afford her a place to stay. She’s judgmental and y’all need to start holding women accountable for the BS they come up with to shame men and make themselves look like the victim. She wanted a marriage so bad for the look but didn’t even take the time to really get to know him. She can find a man with a GED or diploma that’s a bum or worse than him. That means nothing in the world we live in today. So many ways to make revenue without the diploma. She seems to never be receptive to his feelings just hers. She wanted a look not love. Now look at her looking childish.
finally someone that’s not just putting all the blame onto the woman
@@ladylonda6803lol girl we know it’s you from the video . Stop copying and pasting your responses everywhere. The stuff you said isn’t justified , it’s wrong. He was wrong to lie and you were wrong to wish him death. End of story
@@ladylonda6803💯it seems like society is always on the man's side it was abusive to lie about not having an education.
She’s BEEN gone from this relationship/marriage. She wicked & childish asf, her expression after his apology literally almost made me vomit 🤢 Then she said lying should have the consequences of death & I actually did vomit 🤮 Wow smh he can & WILL do so much better without her ! She will tear him down, she doesn’t like him as a person, she doesn’t respect him. I pray for his strength & healing ❤️🩹🙏🏽✨ I’m glad Karamo called her out on letting it go ASAP !
She has no respect for herself, she doesn't know how to love herself so how can she love or respect him.
Because she is the most ridiculous. When I tell you she irritated my whole soul. He deserves so much better. She needs some serious humbling.
Hopefully no one doesn't lie and get you in a contract that's hard to break.
Girl shut up 😂
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The fact that she doesn't think that she rushed into marriage after only 6 months and literally thought that guys don't have feelings tells me instantly that she is immature.
I Lowkey think she feels too good for him.
Right!
Facts I get that vibe too, esp her bringing up that he didn't have a car but she got it taken care of, was just like hmm 🤔
High key
Yeah if she wishes death over words humans should not feel like that 🤦🏾♀️ her entitlement was out of this 🌎 He don’t need to be with her. Hopefully she matures and get that character flaw adjusted before someone adjust her Jaw 🥊 She mad disrespectful
Highkey.
I have been in a relationship when I was lied to from the very beginning. It does hurt!!! But he does not deserve to die!! She has some serious growing up to do!!! You can tell he is a good person. She will regret this. He needed support & love!!
Sounds like she has regrets about marrying young and she’s just holding on to the GED as a way to back out of it.
She regrets marrying a lier. She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
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Yep!!!
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Finding things out after you’ve committed to a person is very hurtful, the hurt and deceit evokes a different level of anger, which mostly comes out in an outrageous manner and reveals a side of you that you yourself had never thought you possess... it took a lot of patience for my partner to nurse my wounds and we’re still working on things to try and adjust to the information that came to light after, but that wound does eventually stops bleeding and it’s so much better if you both put effort and go through it together in love, care and patience. I wish these two nothing but the best, even if the best calls for them to go their separate ways♥️
She walked off embarrassed due to being an immature asshole. SMH . She has a lot of growing up to do. I guess she thought somebody was gonna be on her side. He deserves someone he can vulnerable and honest with.
You guys have no standards you’ll fall for anything
@@candecewade2829 🤦🏾♂️ it’s not even abt standards Candece it’s about getting married prematurely and understanding your partner. I’m not excusing either one of their behaviors but I’m pretty sure she’s the reason for his drinking problem, based off of the little 15 minutes we were able to see her true character
@@kingjredd no one can be the reason someone drink that’s just a cop out . His mother say he drinks too so .
@@candecewade2829 She has no standards, She married him.
@Candece Wade, you need to be better. Never wish someone death. Heal and reduce your arrogance girl. Unless you mature, ain't no guy going to settle with you for long.
She's gonna have a hard time dating and being in a relationship. If you equate a lie to someone needing to die is very barbaric and tyrannic. She's gonna stay immature and lonely if she doesn't grow up
She's disgusting 🤢.
Yes!! and what I got from it is that she was needing an excuse to get out of the marriage instead of being mature enough to say that isn't what she wanted any longer.
Right, I don't know who this little bih thinks she is, but she's going to have a miserable life thinking someone is going to take this mess off her
Shes a peice of work!😮
She's definitely a asshole and he deserve better!
You can’t choose better if people lie to you… so I’m not mad at her for wanting to end things… y’all can say it’s just the GED.
True
They both need to go their separate ways. I could tell she doesn't even want to be in the marriage. She says those things because she is trying to push him away, just leave girl. They moved waaaay too fast.
I feel like she didn’t want to apologize because she felt deceived and trapped. This is very toxic 😢
She just doesn’t love him at or have any love for him. She needs to walk away before she hurts him.
She doesn’t respect him that’s the problem. He can do better than her
Right 😢clearly she did hurt him itwritten all on his face
Or he kills her
Not having a GED is clearly a dealbreaker for her and he lied to her about that so I completely understand her and why She feels this way.
Exactly! She was honest and he wasn’t. She admitted her anger made her say something bad. I would be pissed too. People are too hard on her. She gave up everything to be with him and he didn’t reciprocate. I wish her success and a nice clean divorce.
so if thats a deal breaker, leave. she stayed
Exactly
Verbal abuse is just as bad as physical abuse.
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
Thank you I agree 💯
I agree.
If not worse, honestly
@@ladylonda6803 as young person, 1 please don’t speak for us and 2 no it isn’t a GED isn’t a gage for anything people like her and you are just disgusting and abusive people she doesn’t have the right to GUILT someone for things out of their control he literally said he didn’t get it because of his environment and you can literally have an amazing career without a GED so her excuses were null in void. She is walking proof that beauty doesn’t equate to a good person. Like Karamo said YOU AND HER HAVE SOME MATURING TO DO. Be blessed.
I hate how they're gaslighting her if u can lie about something small u will lie about everything else she's not wrong for how she feels, I wouldn't trust him either
That’s stupid. I can lie right now and say the time is 6 o’clock that means I should die? Because I lied about the time 😂
I don't think anyone is saying she's wrong to feel hurt. They're saying her reaction is over the top and cruel
@@brainsandbeauty2832half of the comments are saying both lol
Thats so true. I wouldnt trust him either
You can’t expect everyone to be like you. Every person is unique in their own special way.
Please get a contract with a major network. You are a blessing that all should experience. YOU GO BOY!!!!
You don't say stuff like that to somebody you supposedly love,they're both problematic
If he'd said that yall would scream abuse
Karamo said that was very abusive already.
Yes! I’m so glad Karamo called her out on that.
I think everyone agrees it's abusive. Most of the comments aren't in her favor.
There’s no double standard.. Karamo literally said it was abusive and us women in the comments and the audience agree.
Everybody said it was abuse..
when she patted him she thought the crowd was gon laugh girl you gon get what you deserve
Her thought process is wicked. OMG.
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
@@ladylonda6803 she didn’t have to tell him to die tho it’s no excuse for that
@Lovely Wilson. You don't know what all consequences she is dealing with due to his abusive lies. The consequences of a lie can be very detrimental and should not be taken lightly. The consequences of lies can cause people to lose their life, job(ability to protect and provide), health, savings, safety, and the list goes on and on. You can't violate someone and expect them to be the bigger person. She reacted out of trauma. She's young and inexperienced with dealing with liers. She said abusive words. A lier is barbaric. Period. Example- If someone lied and it caused irreversible harm to the person you love most in the world , what words would you have for them? How do you think the victims of Bernie Madoff feel about him? She is a victim of his lies. That lie influenced the trajectory of her life. You can't minimize that lie. It was important to her. It's no excuse for his lies. He caused the toxic relationship. She would have rejected him because he didn't meet her standards.
"What do he do"? The mother asks. I understand the inclination to get involved to help your children. However, in a marriage your adult child has taken an oath to abide by, I think one should be wary of getting involved. One has no idea what types of horror your beloved child is putting their spouse through. Your child is a completely different person as your child than the way they show up as a spouse. The wife does seem hard and unfeeling, yet mom may not know the FULL extent of what her son did to anger his woman. The wife KNOWS. The mother likely assumes. She's on the outside (of what they partially CHOOSE to tell her ) looking in.
He needs to run from her! I’m glad he has a mother who is involved.
Lying to her then saying “ how you don’t know me “ is crazy
Exactly
yea she wanted it to be an issue…very immature young lady 😕
The issue is not the GED but the Lies. I gather that she is saying that trusting his word is difficult Faithful in little faithful in much. So if he can't be truthful about this seemingly small matter (and it's not small; it has implications for starting point, and time for building success as a family and about sharing just burdens), how could she trustfully expect the truth about the more "consequential" issues between them?
Could you imagine what he would have become with her motivation because you can tell he wanted to please her.
Right
He got a car bc she pushed him, he would’ve grown and got it together but she’s abusive in all ways. There was no motivation for him to do better, not even for himself she ripped all that man’s value away he thought he was useless
Right?!🙌🏽💯
When you're sick and tired of being sick and tired, you just want to get out. People get tired of not trusting someone after they've put themselves out there to be open, honest and loving. She is very immature and it shows but I hope they both heal from this.
She acting like he gave her 5 kids and hid his criminal background 😂 this woman is aware but don't take responsibility in the part she played
Exactly, she is to young and immature to be in any sort of a relationship plus she’s abusive. He needs to face his past he is a main filled with pain, you can see his hurt. I pray he gets therapy and leaves the bottle alone. Educate and elevate
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Exactly.
I'm so glad she's young enough to get out of this bs early with an understanding of what she doesn't want in the next man...
Exactly I feel the same way
She was marrying potential then realised its not what she was expecting
That girl didn't do her due diligence trying to find out more about her Fiancé... If she had the super hero complex and thought she could change him, then it was still her fault because she ignored the red flags that she had during the dating season.
She is using the GED snd alcohol lie to as an excuse to get out. She has someone else already.
Karamo you nailed it as always!!!!! Everything you said was SPOT ON!!!
This may have been a blessing in disguise for him. She may have been looking for a way out for sometime. She may have more unspoken shame than whatever mistakes he's made in the past. Until she comes out of victim mode and fix herself, she'll never be happy whether single, married, divorced, dating, or anything in between. Brother, there are plenty of women who are waiting to love and help build you. You'll do well. Don't look back.
This the message
It's good she walked away from him because his lies brought out the worst in her. He is the problem!
me personally, I would feel bad as a WOMAN and wife that he felt he needed to lie about his GED. I would understand his reasoning for lying and even attempt to help him get it. The bashing and holding on to that little lie is ridiculous!! That’s a very immature, nonchalant, judgmental, goofy LITTLE GIRL and that MAN deserves better! IT’S HER LOSS
Read her body language, she came over it! She doesn’t want him, was just looking for a way out. She’ll act differently for the one she wants
She talking about him not having a GED when they met on the same job!!! How did her diploma help her ...⛔
I think some projection is happening here. I hope this young lady gets the help she needs. There's much more to her story. ❤🙏🏾
No, she's the victim here. She was lied to and betrayed. She clearly stated that having a GED was a preference and standard for her. That's equivalent for a man preferring a woman to be a particular size, no makeup, and no hair weave. A woman's preference of a man with a specific income range, no more than two baby mama's, and good credit. The problem is the lie. Example- how would you feel if you thought you were married to a woman, but found out years later that she was born a male?????? A lie for one person might be minor to another person. You are rating the lie. The lie itself is the problem. She feels betrayed. She can't trust him. He is not who he portrayed himself to be. He is young, and hopefully does not have a pattern of lying. I hope this will cause him to make better decisions in the future.
She feels that someone lying to her is worth their life. Everyone has lied at some point in their life, should we all die for this sin? She does not understand that our tongue is powerful, and we can truly speak things into existence. We can also bring bad on ourselves by wishing bad on others, I could never understand the mentality of some people. If someone does wrong to you, walk away..No one is obligated to treat you right and be the person who you want them to be. My advice is to gain more knowledge, it's not fully about the relationship, her mind is also not pure. She needs to seek God and read her bible.
Ok, the marriage is over but what is driving him to lie and drink like that?!? He's still living with his mom, and his mom says she feels like he also hides his drinking from her, and they don't know how to love each other?!? What was his foundation like growing up?
I feel her. When you lie you’re a liar. It’s not up to her to let go and forgive because she was lied to. If you lie about something small you will definitely lie about something big. He’s an alcoholic and she was tricked into a marriage. It’s not ok. I’ve been there done that. I was stuck and disappointed when I found out all of the truth’s. And the lies never stopped.
She wasn’t tricked into anything 😂that’s her own fault don’t marry someone you haven’t even knew for a year like what is wrong with you people nobody forced her to say yes she’s clearly immature she should’ve got to know him better so that’s on her regardless if he lied about education that’s something you can fix people go through worse
@@Xx.darkroses That’s your opinion. She fell in love with the person he told her he was which was a lie. He was immature for lying to her. Tricking her to be with him. Tell the person who you are up front and let them decide if they want to be with you. He’s immature for lying about a GED. Her lesson is not to believe what someone says but to actually see it. He’s a liar and will only continue to lie. He broke her trust with his lies now wants to apologize and expect her to believe him. From my experience the lies will continue to come if you stay. Thank God she was smart enough to stop it here. Maybe he’ll learn not to lie to get someone because it will back fire.
You so right
I can understand her being mad however, that's no excuse to wish death on someone💯
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
I don't believe that ANY lie should be considered as "minor!" a lie is a lie,PERIODT!💯
She is entitled to feel how she feels! Ppl don’t get to determine the magnitude of a persons hurt BUT sis if u feel that way LEAVEEEEEE. U can’t say hurtful things back and stay it’s toxic and you become part of the problem
She is showing up the way her mother or whoever raised her showed up for her!!! It took me a very long time to acknowledge that my mothers trauma/story was not mine! She definitely feels likes is so right and he wronged her in the worst way I hope they go their separate ways and she get the healing and help she deserves!!! Same for him!
She isn't right for him. He needs to run quickly. I think he's going to be miserable with her.
I agree she may have felt pressured or even persuaded to get married. But at the end of the day you have to think things through and that comes with “Maturity” marriage is sacred, the two becomes one. And when two still have wounds that have not being patched and heal, it’s gonna be hard down the road.. when the honeymoon phase is over, that when the relationship began to squander.
These two seem like great people, but grow, and love yourself before making these commitments.
It seems that neither one of them were ready to be married, and maybe they should have waited to get to know each other a little more.
I feel so sad for her. This man loves her and part of the reason he lies is out of fear of losing her. He wanted to be that hero, the best friend, her safety and lover so he pretended and it backfired on him.....
YES!!!!
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
He lied, and she can't trust him.She clearly stated that having a GED was a preference and standard for her. That's equivalent for a man preferring a woman to be a particular size, no makeup, and no hair weave. A woman's preference of a man with a specific income range, no more than two baby mama's, and good credit. The problem is the lie. Example- how would you feel if you thought you were married to a woman, but found out years later that she was born a male?????? A lie for one person might be minor to another person. You are rating the lie. The lie itself is the problem. She feels betrayed. She can't trust him. He is not who he portrayed himself to be. He is young, and hopefully does not have a pattern of lying. I hope this will cause him to make better decisions in the future.
This comment here💯💯💯
She is also a lier and she feels superior to him so she can lie and be abusive. People here that think she is not in the wrong as well also have life issues as well as this couple. Being abusive because someone else is also abusive? Makes no sense and is not rational. Both young people will be very unhappy until they figure that out.
He’s the one that dodged the bullet really. Not only were her words abusive, her whole demeanor and body language was off putting. Just full of anger no feelings or anything…It’s kind of giving serial 🔪🔪🔪. I hope they both grow and find their person.
Agreed I'm telling you she is heartless ,a black dead cold heart she has 🖤 he can do better with someone thats not going to treat him like he's there doormat it's sad because he can't even think enough of himself to leave and not allow someone to treat him like shit. Also no offense she okay but she ain't all that homegirl needs to look in the mirror and check herself because she has alot of self work and self improvement to do her damn self her attitude stinks, she's arrogant as hell and shes looking more masculine than he is.
She acts like she has never lied in her life.
She don't love that man and I can see the pain in his eyes.
I got married after 10 months of dating and we’ve been happily married 8 years later. I think she’s looking for a reason to leave, I’m sorry that’s what it gives off. And she has no respect for him, and the verbal abuse that’s alot, very toxic. They should go there separate ways.
If anything including a GED is SO important ask for proof! Is she really concerned about the drinking..🤔Maturity needs to kick in ..she will probably say marriage sucks! 😮😊
Father in heaven. Give us all strength. I’m speechless
Run gurl, RUN! It will only get worse. He will feel that he can lie again.
True
I don’t agree with her choice of words but to some people lying is a deal breaker and taken very seriously. I don’t think it’s totally okay to dismiss that this girl was lied to and truth be told she would have never went forward if she knew. Shame or not that man didn’t love her frfr because you couldn’t be able to keep that lie for long. Also we don’t know what her past is with liars. She could be traumatized from men or people lying to her. And I felt her on being honest so you expect honesty back from someone. I hope they both find healing
I agree, but she have to learn that you don't earn the right to be abusive and cruel just because you got hurt. If you plan to stay in the marriage, it's completely counter-productive.
%100 PERCENT AGREE
Agreed
@S.Mcfadden. She was a victim of his lies. You can't expect a victim to be the bigger person. Lies have detrimental consequences. Lies cause death, loss of jobs, loss of health, loss of safety, and the list goes on. She reacted to his abuse with words. Example- If a person's lie caused irreversible harm to the person that you love the most in life, how would you feel about them? How do you think Bernie Madoff's victims feel about him? She's inexperienced in dealing with liers and deceivers. She don't plan to stay in the marriage. It's good she walked away from him because his lies brought out the worst in her. He is the problem! She is the victim.
True
She holds no accountability! Many of us refused to shine light on our brokenness. She did not know this man AT ALL.
As soon as Lucretia found out Josh had an alcohol problem (and didn't tell her), she should have left him. Being with a person who has an alcohol/an addiction problem can be an emotional and financial nightmare. Who lies about having a GED? That is not a little white lie. That affects employment opportunities and the married couple's income. Who lies about potential children? That affects the couple's income income when it comes to child support. In other words, Lucretia will be carrying his financial burdens and suffer the side effects of his alcoholism. Lucretia is right...if he lied about these things, how can you trust that he is not going to lie about cheating and anything else? Karamo was way too hard on Lucretia (and unfair to her) and way too easy on Josh. Lucretia may not been justified with the death comment, but she was justified with the rest of the 95% of her grievances and feelings about her husband. Glad she walked off stage.
Well she should just leave and stop making his life a living hell
@@longbranch11207 she did leave
Exactly…………
Thank YOUUU !!!
exactly
Y'all in these comments acting like dealing with someone with an addiction is an easy choice to make. She wasn't wrong for not wanting to be with him. He wouldn't even acknowledge his addiction until they were on stage.
Ikr everyone is calling her really bad shitty names I mean like chill
You right. Agreed
She doesn't love nor respect him. But marrying someone after only 8 months of dating makes me wonder how she feels about herself. Shy extremely angry and hostile.
With this type of negative energy, I'm really shocked & a little impressed that they were actually able to make it 8months in this relationship
she doesn’t want to be with him anymore, that’s why she’s acting like that. she wants him to make the first moves into calling it off and getting a divorce. Also, without a HS diploma or GED, I want to know how he’s doing in life career wise and financially.
I'm 50 yrs old without a HS diploma or GED and God has blessed me with a good job in a refinery , I have a nice house my wife has 2 cars and I have two trucks so I pray this young man find his way because it's surely not over for him and this situation probably only motivated him more to rise above his current situation
@@hookemhardfishing1946 that’s amazing! proud of you!
Enough to have a place for her to live.😂
I have a diploma, and college degree. Im 42 yrs old, and never had 1 job ask to see either document....
@@mama2flythesidehustlequeen164 same!! Felt like I got them for nothing
Lying about a GED is MAJOR. That effects future earning potential and quality of life. Just like they aren’t allowing her to make excuses about her harsh statements, they shouldn’t allow him to make excuses about that lie. It’s very hard to trust a person after they’ve lied to you
I have two degrees and know people with no education that make almost as much as me…it’s not that big a deal as it was back in the early 00’s
@Thee Misfit. Obviously he cares. He stated that it causes him shame. I'm not bashing him for not having a GED. She clearly stated that having a GED was a preference and standard for her. That's equivalent for a man preferring a woman to be a particular size, no makeup, and no hair weave. A woman's preference of a man with a specific income range, no more than two baby mama's, and good credit. The problem is the lie. Example- how would you feel if you thought you were married to a woman, but found out years later that she was born a male?????? A lie for one person might be minor to another person. You are rating the lie. The lie itself is the problem. She feels betrayed. She can't trust him. He is not who he portrayed himself to be. He is young, and hopefully does not have a pattern of lying. I hope this will cause him to make better decisions in the future.
@@ladylonda6803 no shit Sherlock. I’m talking about the woman. I know what the man went through. Shit I went through the same shame so I know the journey. He will be fine.
@Thee Misfit. His shame caused the relationship to become toxic. He was able to get access to her due to lies. His internal problem led to emotional abuse for her. She feels betrayed and does not trust him. I'm able to look at both perspectives. You seem to be sympathetic towards him, and you've called her a bitch. Stop blaming her. She is the victim. She responded with mean words out of hurt and trauma.
and he owned up to it, but do you hear her words and the way she’s showing how narcissistic she is
This is my opinion being 19 in today's world, buckle up it's a long ride 😆-
I feel like this would have been fine to just let go if they were still boyfriend and girlfriend, but the thing about marriage though is that if a person has done something that wasn't committing adultery against you then you don't just up and leave that person. I don't know why people don't take marriage seriously but for me it's very spiritual and it's just wrong to rush into a marriage that you don't value. We all have made mistakes on things because we're only human. You don't have the right to hold something that someone is trying to be better at over their head. I feel like a lot of people of my generation just won't understand how serious this is. I find it a shame that you have 90 year old couples that have been together for decades regardless of the rough patches in their marriage but they still stayed and kept their commitment and vows to die with this person through sickness and health and all other things that may come. Meanwhile, we have people today that divorce multiple times over petty stuff that can easily get solved through counseling and prayer. If you keep treating a marriage like it's some little high school relationship then you'll be miserable because you first have to understand the importance of it. Show grace to the ones that you claim you love and forgiveness ❤
Shame is so powerful…and painful. I feel for him about his shame around his education. While I understand his shame, I’m so glad there are ways to remedy his inadequacy educational shame. He seem on the right tract! Props to him for being vulnerable.
I DONT condone what he does and what he has lied about but She’s alot … like she’s ruthless and heartless . People like her need a reality check to humble her . She’s aggressive & combative as well
Heck no …
Yesss I was like unt unt ms.thang she mean 😢
I agree with you, she blames him for everything. She wanted to get married, she is running away from something. Something in her past is weighing heavily on her.
Disagree. Understand how ppl can deceive you to get what they want and you have to pay for it. Imagine if someone told you they were a doctor.. and was really in special education. She may have been a virgin.. and married him or slept with him on the premise of what he told her.. now she’s stressed. And he won’t let her leave, continuing to pull on her heart strings. She didn’t reject him. He rejected himself. Could she deliver things less harshly sure. But who can tell this young lady how to feel
She just nasty and I know his momma glad that's over he didn't lose nothing at all she trash
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
So he started the relationship off on multiple lies and when she set her boundaries, and said no, I'm taking this, she's the bad person?? Smh
The comments…why y’all acting like that level of deception/delusion is okay? Lmao how you lie about your qualifications and then be mad that she’s judging you for not having them?
Girl for real!!!!
Misogyny they hate women. She's a bad person for sure, but to act like he's innocent is wild af. He lied MULTIPLE times, and a GED is NOT minor. Also he calls her insecure and lied out of shame......
@@aesanonymous8936 if he did this to a white woman…nvm you know the rest lmfao
@@ALARMINGadaora girl tell me about it. I watched it and am mind boggled by the comments, it's like when you are bigoted your sense of reality is so skewed it's pathetic honestly. She toxic but her death comment doesn't erase everything, they hyper focused on the wrong mf thing. "He lied cause he loves her🥺", fuck outta here with that!
It’s the mother saying lying about GED is minor 🙄
At the end of the day she was deceived! No matter how small the lie is and she feels like she was dooped into marriage! Idc if he lied about having a cat then turned out he had one! How dare you make her live with a cat when that’s not what she wants! 🤦🏾♀️ he knows had he told her all those things UP FRONT she wouldn’t be his wife..
She is just ridiculous. He better run while he got a chance. His life is going to be miserable with her.
It's good she walked away from him because his lies brought out the worst in her. He is the problem! She is the victim.
I disagree ,They both need counseling. He is a alcoholic and she is bipolor.
@@ladylonda6803 his lies still cannot equate her telling him to die .... she could NEVER be the VICTIM. She puts hands on him but SHE is the VICTIM ?
SHE is both PHYSICALLY and MENTALLY abusive but SHE is the VICTIM .
She’s an evil human being. I hope he finds help and is able to heal from this. This can really scar a person.
Once a dude lie repeatedly...that's it.And mama enabling him🤦🏽♀️
Yep....no correction on her part..
Agreed
Yeah
Yeah it’s something up with that. I’m kind of shocked to see so many people on his side.
@@kshirelle I was floored
Every body gaining up on her,but how would you feel if everything your husband told you about his self was a lie and he have a addiction on top of the lies ,the trust would be out the window, sample lies lead to big lies,yes she have anger issues and that needs to be worked on , she's young so they don't no how to manage a lot of there emotions,but you can't lie your way in someone life and think it's ok,she is mad because he is not the man she thought she married.period..
So true. You got it. The marriage and everything after would never happened if he was honest about himself fully.
The facts that he drinks let’s me know that it’s probably because of her. She is just not giving at all.
Ion like to be lied to either, I hate that shit! It’s like I’m being forced an it’s not fair don’t device me! I literally left my husband because of a lie he told me from when we was engaged! I’m like her on some real shit! Who wants to be with someone that lies to you on purpose it’s like eff my feelings only yours matters yeah y’all can say she wanted a way out that’s because y’all are liars try not being one and be truthful and have someone trap you into a marriage or a damn baby all behind a damn lie especially knowing you came to them completely as yourself that’s shit ain’t right!
Her delivery was totally wrong….her moral beliefs and values of her dream husband was false and he knew her standards was high so he lied. She should be mad at herself for not dating him longer than 6-8 months 🤷🏾♀️
10:35 hello get a divorce. He deserves someone better anyways. Someone that is capable of supporting his goals and dreams not someone who's constantly putting him down.
People have died behind peoples lies. I don’t agree with her language but I understand why she’s so angry.
Thank you exactly I understand why she mad but her words are cut throat. He shouldn’t have lied tell the truth and why your at where you are cause for women especially any woman with abuse or whatever in they pass one lie becomes every word is a lie real quick. She one of those clearly, he need to Heal and find himself no need to blame her for his drinking he has an addiction she may be a trigger that’s it but anything can make him drink more.
She isn’t mad about that it’s clearly something deeper than that because the way she handled it over him lying about education shows that’s it’s deeper and the fact she wished death upon him proves it she haves things she needs to heal with herself and so does he and that’s why you don’t marry people you haven’t even known for a year 😂that’s her fault nobody forced her to marry him and he has things that he needs to heal as well and when you both need healing how could you possibly love someone else before you truly love yourself and happy with yourself
I love how she looks at him thru them glasses lol...they not lasting they seeing each other ways now
Whewwww I need a damn drink and she’s not even my girl. Was he wrong for lying? YES , but girlllllllllllll. She’s definitely an abuser both physically (cause he said she puts hands on him) and verbally (cause wishing dead on someone over them lying about a GED is never that dead) imagine if he was actually cheating and she had proof of that 😬 she could probably snap and commit the crime her damn self . They don’t belong together. Bless her heart though.
Truthfully I can validate her experience. No excuses for any verbal abuse. The issue is SHE continued to build a relationship with someone who was deceptive originally. She resents him now. Ive learned it’s critical to identify honest persons (not potential) in order to build the trustworthy foundation. Accountability for me. Her walking off was the act of accountability. GOD BLESS both and let there be true healing involved. ☀️
Finally someone said it and not keep acting like he did no wrong
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
I love her honesty i just feel like she needs to be with someone who thinks like her or holds people to the same standards she does .
So true. She thought she married someone like that but he lied.
She's beyond immature
They both are..
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
I feel her once you lie to me about anything i want believe nothing else you say. Just leave me alone at this point.
I don't think she wanted him in the first place. You don't talk to someone you respect and want like that. Maybe just wanted somewhere to lay her head and now it seem like she found somewhere else..🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
she just has high standards,morals & values & she don’t play about em..plus she’s being brutally honest..it’s alarming yes but she’s taking accountability for things that she’s done atleast & ppl will call that “crazy” or whatever you wanna call it..but indeed moving too fast will always cost you & here you have it
I DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR HER AT ALL?! THERE'S NO WAY YOU DON'T NEED TO MARRY SOMEBODY TO DAMN FAST?! PLUS, SHE'S 23 YEARS OLD AND SHE SHOULD'VE BEEN LIVING HER BEST SINGLE LIFE?!
She is young and inexperienced with liers and deceivers. Some people marry young and it works out fine. Young people don't know that it can take many years to truly know someone.
With a person that did not have a diploma and got a GED I feel offended with this. He can always got back, and get it . Doesn’t make him any less of a man. She needs to work on her vocabulary, and expressing herself.
Just like Koramo said, she has no emotional maturity and intelligence to be married. If you can't take the stress of your spouse not having GED what are you going to do when those kids start coming, when financial problems start coming, when unemployment and lay offs get in the way. He should equally work on himself. He clearly has deeper issues than GED. he needs to get help for alcoholism and possibly depression before he starts playing house with the next woman
How the mom think she know if he cheating if he been hiding the drinking… how would you know
Telling somebody they should die on the street because they lied about having a GED is evil. She’s never gonna be happy until she changes her judgmental ass mindset. How you classist as hell but out here marrying anybody who treats you nice for 2 weeks? Make it make sense. She needs to get her mind right before she dates anybody else & that’s way more important than a car or a GED.
She’s homeless. She had no business being that evil.
She said what she said. Lying is abusive, and she reacted with abuse. People need to be honest. For young people, a diploma or GED is an achievement used to gage character. His lie influenced her decisions with him. She feels violated. His lie was abusive and affected her safety and security. She can't trust him. She does not feel safe because of his lies. He is a treat to her. People react to abuse differently. His decision to lie traumatized her, and she has to work through the feelings. Lies can kill. It should be taken seriously. Hopefully he can work through his issues of shame and is honest in future relations.
@@ladylonda6803 you steady commenting under everybody post. Geesh
I hope he becomes someone so great.
He definitely will be great and this evil b-tch will want him back.