Legacy of Kain: Defiance - Judge Mathas

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  • SIMON TEMPLEMAN IS ALIVE. Might meets Right or something here's my review of Legacy of Kain Defiance.
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  • @PixelLoungeRush
    @PixelLoungeRush  6 років тому +164

    CORRECTION: Simon Templeman is alive and I'm VERY stupid. The voice actor for the Elder God is the one who's deceased. My bad!

    • @Sephirothwolf
      @Sephirothwolf 6 років тому +37

      JudgeMathas never scare me like that ever again!

    • @Calmputer
      @Calmputer 6 років тому +21

      Oh Phew! nearly made *me* not be with us anymore...
      And yeah, Rest in peace, Tony Jay. You'll always be the voice of My god.

    • @vincentpresscod7531
      @vincentpresscod7531 6 років тому +9

      You know you really scared me with that. Don't do that :/

    • @seraphielvoneinem2961
      @seraphielvoneinem2961 6 років тому +5

      Tony Jay
      He was also Reboots Megabyte along with a cavalcade of other roles

    • @kuglefang
      @kuglefang 6 років тому +8

      Dude you scared me, I immediately googled if he was dead when I heard you mention he's no longer with us

  • @scrumdiddilyuumcious6673
    @scrumdiddilyuumcious6673 6 років тому +26

    You cant just skip soul reaver 2 and jump right in to defiance because at the end people wont understand certain things, like why raziel enters the soul reaver, who's soul is it that's in the sword and those questions are answered in soul reaver 2. That and other things like the time paradox that's created at the end of soul reaver 2. Also, Janos Audrin. People wont know who he is, how dose he know raziel and what is their connection. so more confusion.

    • @NewExile
      @NewExile 3 роки тому +6

      Arguably the best game in the series, but skip it, because... uh... reasons?

    • @Barakeh
      @Barakeh 3 роки тому +1

      I agree, that was very dumb of him to say that what the fuck

    • @vanyadolly
      @vanyadolly Рік тому

      I started with Defiance 😅 As long as a game is good enough to get you interested in the rest of the story, you can start anywhere. Though at the start is usually best.

    • @shaolinsnake9650
      @shaolinsnake9650 Рік тому

      Can i skip the first one? Ps1 game feels just too old for me, with some exceptions like FFIX and Soulblade.

  • @PixelLoungeRush
    @PixelLoungeRush  6 років тому +84

    - No I'm not sick.
    - Yes I'm pale.
    - The bags under my eyes are genetic.
    - Yes I get enough sleep.
    I hope you enjoyed the video! Be sure to LIKE and SHARE it if you did!

    • @MaxiusTheGod
      @MaxiusTheGod 6 років тому +2

      What's up with that third nipple though

    • @pious83
      @pious83 6 років тому +3

      Pretty sure Simon Templeman is still alive Mathas and Michael Bell. Tony Jay (Elder God) is the one who has passed on since Defiance.

    • @plop0000
      @plop0000 6 років тому

      Do you eat enough? You should eat some vegetables to get those vitamins.

    • @itxaumby2591
      @itxaumby2591 6 років тому +1

      I think you should just link your childhood school picture instead of this list. It hits all the points

    • @Rickc313
      @Rickc313 6 років тому +1

      You went on a bit of a rant with the ex-girlfriend bit. You okay Mathas? Who hurt you man? Lol

  • @justingraton17
    @justingraton17 6 років тому +22

    There was a game series I grew up playing as a kid. The Maximo Series by Capcom, it's got some motifs to Ghosts n' Ghouls but I've never seen anyone talk about them. Would you judge this one? Were those games hidden jems or am I nostalgia blind?

    • @CziffraTheThird
      @CziffraTheThird 3 роки тому +2

      My personally most revered games of all time. Bold statement? Yes it is. But I could not be more emphatically, sincerely serious. Both Ghosts to Glory and Army of Zin are originally conceived(save for the common knight save princess story) unbridled masterpieces!! And yes the main theme for Maximo is the same in varied form to Ghosts and Goblins which is what you meant to say, both main characters on their last hit or bar of health is stripped down to their boxers etc. and the list goes on! I remember where I was exactly when I heard the rumours(which were indeed officially true and this was many years ago)that a Maximo III was being developed but then that very sadly fell through the cracks....but the more I reminisce back to this incident, the more I am honestly okay with it. The less Maximo gets dabbled and touched with at this point, the better!

  • @Krooksbane
    @Krooksbane 4 роки тому +6

    Soul reaver 2 is arguably the most important game in the series. It’s the point in the series that hinges the entire storyline on how important Raziel is to changing the destiny of Kain, and of Nosgoth itself.
    To skip it, would mean that you’re cutting out the most important plot point, that Raziel’s cyclical nature is being used to alter time in a way that will benefit the Elder God. When Kain also realizes how important Raziel is, he decides that he could restore Nosgoth to health by restoring the pillars, while still retaining his role as balance guardian, and fufill the vampire prophecy.
    Thus thwarting the EG, and ridding his soul of the corruption brought on by Nupraptors madness.

  • @Mr83nn0
    @Mr83nn0 6 років тому +22

    I usually, like once a year. Just rewatch the story segments of these games here on UA-cam. Because, even though I've played the games alot, the story is still fenomenal and I've yet to find a game series with depth enough to surpass it.
    And I whole heartedly agree with your judgment, the games are flawed but I still love them. And if you don't have time to play them all, at least watch the "tv-versions" here on UA-cam.

    • @niespeludo
      @niespeludo 6 років тому +1

      The main person who wrote those games ended up working for Naughty Dog, writing for both The Last of Us and Uncharted.

    • @SturgusLipmonger
      @SturgusLipmonger 5 років тому

      drubio She didnt write for The Last of Us

    • @Krooksbane
      @Krooksbane 4 роки тому

      drubio Amy Henning

  • @xCr00k3Dx
    @xCr00k3Dx 6 років тому +33

    FYI, Simon Templeman is still alive. The voice of the Elder God, Tony Jay (who also played Count Frolo in Disney's Hunchback Of Notre Dame), is the person who died.

    • @PixelLoungeRush
      @PixelLoungeRush  6 років тому +8

      Yep! I'm a dummy. My bad.

    • @Sephirothwolf
      @Sephirothwolf 6 років тому +2

      And Vorador

    • @xCr00k3Dx
      @xCr00k3Dx 6 років тому +1

      +Sephirothwolf I was about to comment that Tony Jay didn't play Vorador, but realized you meant that Vorador's voice actor, Paul Lukather, _also_ died, which I didn't know until a few minutes ago.
      Well, shit. ;=;
      Still, I think I'm gonna play through the Legacy Of Kain series again. I'd love to find big-boxes for all the games, but I think PS Blood Omen, and the rest via Steam will do just nicely.

    • @UrbanTheFox
      @UrbanTheFox 6 років тому +2

      I confess I panicked Google if Templeman had died when I read that.

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 6 років тому

      Simon isn't even that old.

  • @Ritchian
    @Ritchian 6 років тому +15

    If I had to sum up the story of the Legacy of Kain series (minus Blood Omen 2) in one sentence, it would be in the words of Raziel himself. "What game was this, where every player on the board claimed the same pawn?"
    I fall quite firmly into the fan category of the Legacy of Kain series. It tells one of the more fascinating stories in gaming. Granted, much of it won't make sense until you reach the later parts of the series, but the story of Kain and Raziel is incredible in scope and the characters themselves beautifully break so many trends of video game protagonists. The story, the setting, the absolutely incredible voice acting and speaking a fantastic script. The series was great. It always made me sad that there was never any continuation to the series aside from a god-awful-looking free-to-play shooter that shut down a few years ago.

  • @Glaiceana
    @Glaiceana 6 років тому +12

    Answer to your final questions: Yes I have played all of the games in the series. It is my absolute favourite series, and Soul Reaver is my personal favourite game of it. The story, the characters, the voice acting of course! The world itself, the music, don't forget the music! I love this series and always will. I do feel it is underappreciated, but at the same time it has the most awesome fan base :)
    Totally agree with you about how Blood Omen 2 should have been what Defiance was! Also agree with the camera angle issue. Not sure on the reason for this in the last game.
    The spectral realm in Defiance is definitely more creepy. There's that one ear piercing scream that happens every now and then, and that freaked me out the first time, and was still pretty creepy each time after!
    And yes the ending made sense, while it was tragic for my favourite video game character ever, it still was good!
    Soul Reaver remains my favourite game. I was surprised to find that a lot of people struggled to like the SR because of the many block puzzles etc, I honestly never thought about that, I enjoyed every minute of the game all those years ago, and lost count how many times I played it haha.

  • @Michaelds18
    @Michaelds18 6 років тому +14

    I love you channel man, you deserve much more apreciation. kudos from Brazil!

  • @pious83
    @pious83 6 років тому +10

    I adore this series, always have. I can't think of a better written and acted story in the action genre. I played through all of them, multiple times... even Blood Omen 2. Other series I enjoyed that have been forgotten? Bloody Roar, Shining Force, Advance Wars, Suikoden, Broken Sword... *Sigh*

  • @ChocolatierRob
    @ChocolatierRob 6 років тому +6

    I love this series and I'm one of the ones who made videos for it. I made story walkthroughs for all 5 games, I basically made them into movies by editing the cutscenes with just enough gameplay to make them gel together (though in playlist form because I still had the ten minute limit at the time) and filled the description boxes with an assortment of extra lore, commentary, cut content , etc. I did the same for a game (not in a series) I'd call a forgotten gem - Vagrant Story. Excellent cinematic RPG from Square that is unfortunately overlooked.
    A series that I would _controversially_ refer to as overlooked is the MediEvil series, controversially because it is due to get a reboot soon, the only problem is that they did this once already and completely borked it up. The _new_ reboot looks set to be based on this failed attempt instead of the original games that I did and do love. Basically the first game had a Tim Burtonesque aesthetic very similar to The Nightmare Before Christmas that really worked for it but the first reboot just ditched this iconic atmosphere and made it much more similar to Shrek if anything. Now I like Shrek but Shrek humour is pretty far removed from Tim Burton humour and trying to cram cheap gags in every few seconds does not match the established atmosphere of MediEvil.

  • @lizjones2710
    @lizjones2710 6 років тому +13

    You should do the mech warrior games

  • @Lyendith
    @Lyendith 6 років тому +1

    Eeh, someone who jumps directly from SR1 to Defiance would be extremely confused, story-wise. But I agree that Defiance's gameplay was really great for the time. The whole series (minus BO2 probably) would be a good candidate for an HD remake.
    One thing I'm surprised you didn't touch upon though, is the rather horrid sound design of Defiance. Sure the spectral ream had a wonderfully creepy atmosphere, but outside of that the sound effects and music felt strangely… weak. The most egregious example would be the spectral bosses in the forges. And sometimes you'd use an object and it would just kinda teleport onto its "keyhole" without a sound… It made the game feel almost unfinished at times and was really jarring. Not to mention some cutscenes that are completely devoid of music when they really shouldn't be (the final sacrifice notably).

  • @captain_crook1993
    @captain_crook1993 6 років тому +6

    We're gonna need an astrisk on that Simon Templeman faux pas, Mathas. With Tony Jay's name next to it.

  • @Texshy
    @Texshy 6 років тому +3

    Damn, I'm gonna need to pick up Defiance. Looks way more awesome than I thought it was.

  • @hunterstone2182
    @hunterstone2182 Рік тому +2

    I thought the ending of defiance mostly wrapped up all existing story threads. The only thing left for kain to do was find a way to restore/replace the pillars and deal with the Elder God. But all timeline had been caught up to speed so the story could progress forward.

  • @Dot-hack
    @Dot-hack 3 роки тому +2

    Blood Omen 2 was the first one I played and I enjoy it to this day. Obviously that’s because of it being the first one I played but I really do not think it’s as bad as people like to make it out to be. Also I just thought of it as it’s own game disconnected from the main series and I loved it.

  • @jamesjarvis931
    @jamesjarvis931 5 днів тому +1

    I remember locking myself in my room 24 hours a day when I was a teenager playing Legacy of Kain 1-5 hundreds of times. I constantly paused the game to focus on what everyone did six times a day when they experienced puberty. Life was a toy.

  • @AngelNotFadeAway
    @AngelNotFadeAway 6 років тому +1

    dude!what did u mean Simon Templeman is no longer with us!?You made me search everywhere online thinking he died!He is very much alive.Other than that,great review!One criminally underrated series to me has been Shadow hearts series.Be great if you do a review on them!

  • @Mrfieldwood
    @Mrfieldwood 6 років тому +3

    Mathas, I do not agree with you in some things about the series, however you have done a very good job showing with detail how this wonderful and marveling video game had changed in time. Thank you very much for you channel. People who love video games should apreciate your channel much more. Greetings from Colombia.

  • @BelartWright
    @BelartWright 5 років тому +2

    As a Legacy of Kain fan, I truly appreciate this! You got a new sub, with the bell clicked.

    • @BelartWright
      @BelartWright 5 років тому

      I would say that SR2 is necessary though. The moments, engaging speeches, and ironies in that are not to be missed, and Defiance is mostly a response to that game in particular as it deals directly with the fallout of all the events of SR2.
      Plus, it would be weird seeing an instant 180 in Kain's temperament without a good explanation and how he ran from Raziel at the end of one game then ends up looking for Raziel in the next. It's just too much left out without SR2.

  • @Lopitra
    @Lopitra 2 роки тому +1

    My journey with this series started with Defiance. I randomly found it on the shelf one time, perfect for drawing the eyes of edgy pre-teen me. I only ever saw a LoK game on the shelves that one time. Thankfully, the writing, dialogue, worldbuilding and mystery caught my attention enough to start looking for answers online. What a world to find.

  • @chillmill6439
    @chillmill6439 6 років тому +2

    I think Dragon Age: Origins doesn't get enough credit as the great game it is

  • @CRSB00
    @CRSB00 6 років тому +1

    what about the Syphon Filter games I think they're very good and almost no one speaks of them.

  • @gilgamesh310
    @gilgamesh310 6 років тому +2

    I very strongly disagree that Soul Reaver 2 should be ignored. Its events are probably the most important at all. It ties directly in with the events of Blood Omen and gives what happens in SR1 more credence. I also think its story carries the most emotional weight. It really doesn’t make any sense to ignore that one at all.

    • @PixelLoungeRush
      @PixelLoungeRush  6 років тому

      This is why I love this series and it's fans. Everyone has a different take. I walked away from Soul Reaver 2, while adoring the gameplay much more than SR1, feeling that the only worthy aspect of it in its story that had any actual weight worth remembering was the ending of it. Other than that, while still having important aspects, those are mostly (and easily) recapped fully in Defiance competently. And the most important revelation from SR2 being covered (and hammered home) pretty regularly in Defiance as well. The other stuff in SR2, while interesting, is covered in Defiance in such a way that I think most new players would get it.

  • @olegcherkasky2755
    @olegcherkasky2755 6 років тому +1

    This Kane game is basically a precursor to God of War, gameplay wise and even with the way the camera handles.

  • @michaelburke7978
    @michaelburke7978 6 років тому +1

    Such a shame Dark Prophecy was canceled. I'm still bitter over that.

  • @mychem20
    @mychem20 6 років тому +1

    i'd give anything for a remake of all legacy of kain games with the current gen graphics and gameplay improvements. I mean real remake. not just a lazy ass cash grab re-released up-scaled bollocks... *cough* *cough* remastered

  • @mihaitha
    @mihaitha 3 роки тому +1

    Skipping SR2 would be a bad idea IMO. One of the most important elements added by it to the story is Kain's transformation from a pure antagonist to more of an antihero, a tragic pawn to the machinations of Mobius and the Elder God, cursed from the moment of his birth, and explains his decision to refuse the sacrifice. Also, it introduces the physical form of the Elder God, presenting it as a parasite of the wheel of fate, rather than a deity with the power over life and death.

  • @Calmputer
    @Calmputer 5 років тому +1

    Criminally Unseen: Crusader - No Remorse & No Regret!

  • @TheFenrir666
    @TheFenrir666 6 років тому +2

    You literally almost killed me with Simon Templeman part.
    Oh man, I felt my heart get plucked from my chest.

  • @doctorace4308
    @doctorace4308 4 роки тому +1

    I like Raziel’s design, but that man needs pants. If they ever bring back the series, he needs pants

  • @TheguitarmasterORZ1
    @TheguitarmasterORZ1 6 років тому +2

    Honestly? Metroid, even though it is one of Nintendo's mayor franchises and the games and their design inspired a whole sub-genre, the games have never sold nearly as much as Zelda o Mario, which is sad to me because Metroid is easily just as good as a franchise. Hopefully Prime 4 can finally be a huge commercial success so Nintendo can pay more attention to the franchise as a whole.

  • @TURIEL333
    @TURIEL333 6 років тому +1

    I absolutely loved this series of games. Simply amazing. And I mean ALL of the games in this series. God, I wish there was more. You asked for a "criminally neglected game." I would strongly recommend that the game named Primal is one such game.

  • @norfemignissius4936
    @norfemignissius4936 6 років тому +2

    Okay thanks for the mindblow once I tried to remember the plot XD, I still love it (I starve for complexity if I can say). I should do a DnD campaign or something about it... I got the two souls reavers, defiance, none of the blood omen but spent hours to read about it. All of it.
    For your other question : Drakengard & NieR, made by Yoko Taro. The gameplay is lacking until NieR automata (thanks platinum games), but the story is like none others, thanks to this crazy man. Seriously he IS crazy, in a good way.

  • @jamesspillman5655
    @jamesspillman5655 6 років тому +1

    I remember playing the soul reaver when I was 5 and the defiance always stuck with me

  • @freaknr1
    @freaknr1 6 років тому +2

    Solid video, but I have to correct you on one point: Simon Templeman is still alive, it's Tony Jay, who played the Elder God (and Frollo in The Hunchback of Notre Dame) who passed away some years ago.

    • @PixelLoungeRush
      @PixelLoungeRush  6 років тому

      Yep. Dumb mistake, I corrected it in the comments.

  • @teekith3373
    @teekith3373 6 років тому +1

    "One can only match, move by move, the machinations of fate... and thus defy the tyrannous stars. " ~ Kain (Templeman)

  • @Heinous_Anus_Georg
    @Heinous_Anus_Georg 6 років тому +2

    Highly unappreciated channel my dude. Thanks for helping me relive some of the best moments of my childhood. Defiance was a masterpiece at the time

  • @TheFenrir666
    @TheFenrir666 6 років тому +2

    Also Wild Arms series is an RPG series I felt didn't get enough love.

  • @thecoffeeisblack
    @thecoffeeisblack 6 років тому +1

    You need to do a review on Vampire The Masquerade: Redemption, it would compliment your first review of Bloodlines.

  • @vectony
    @vectony 6 років тому +1

    I've been a fan of this game for so many years. I wasn't going to comment at first but then I realized this video was new . Great job on all your legacy of kain videos. GREAT !!!

  • @Draclord35
    @Draclord35 6 років тому +1

    Totally agree with Mathas here (tremendous job btw, thanks for doing this series justice... literally :P ).
    I've "only" played Blood Omen, Soul Reaver and Defiance (barely touched SR2) and they are great games. Definitely one of my favorite video game series.

  • @Diskhate
    @Diskhate 6 років тому

    Kojima?! I think i understand your opinion Mathast, but I honestly think that Hidetaka Miyazaki would be one if not the best director to have on a Legacy of Kain/Soul river reboot.
    Think about it: a soulslike derived combat system + the type of "hinting to the world's lore" that the Demon's souls+Dark Souls+Bloodborne games do so excellently (one of the main reason that make them my favorite games ever)

  • @shadowscalestudios
    @shadowscalestudios 3 роки тому

    It's so weird to me how everyone hates Blood Omen 2, it was my intro to the series and I LOVED it. Kain is a personal hero to me and Defiance sealed him neatly into that slot. I get the janky combat, but as a story it wasn't bad on it's own. Omggggg btw the miley cyrus part made me a subscriber. Kain is TOTALLY gay and as a gay man, we know gay we we see it. Lol What straight man creates a coven of ONLY male lieutenants? He couldn't be bothered with Uma like, at all. 🤣

  • @SadamTV
    @SadamTV 5 років тому

    Big fan of LoK. Greatest ending ever to a game. You do not need to understand everything. You walk the path of Raziel who got what he got and Kain - who tosed a coin. Maybe the gameplay was not perfect, maybe it's generic. That was one fucking awesome story. The moment Raziel get the final upgrade for a weapon. The moment Kain get the final upgrade for a weapon. Awesome story made into a game. Fucking art.

  • @draxx85
    @draxx85 6 років тому +1

    Why would you skip soul reaver 2?? its got some amazing plot points. Think that is terrible advice

    • @ChilluminatiPod
      @ChilluminatiPod 6 років тому

      As I said in the review, I think those plot points are pretty competently covered in Defiance where as the origin of Raziel and his whole opening moments are more important (in my opinion of course) than that stuff that happens in SR 2. Not saying SR2 points are ignorable mind you, and they're massive AND important, but Defiance retreads these plot points in the opening couple hours in enough depth and coherency that I felt it made playing through SR2 for those who want a more "casual" experience and not to deal with some older design and gameplay choices that came from the early 2000's completely doable. Defiance does a great job covering BO2 and SR2 points to completion but doesn't do a great job explaining what happens to Raziel overall in the first SR.

    • @ThePreciseClimber
      @ThePreciseClimber 6 років тому

      @Matias
      Soul Reaver 2 had way better dungeon design and story pacing than Defiance.
      The one improvement Defiance had was the combat system and even that got tiresome after a while since the game just kept throwing more and more enemies at you.

    • @ChilluminatiPod
      @ChilluminatiPod 6 років тому

      While I agree to a certain extent, as I said in my video I was getting burnt out on the formula and constant dungeon + boss + new power loop. It was nice to have a break from that and focus more on the combat and story instead of the zelda-style dungeon crawling. If I'd played it during when it came out properly spaced apart by a few years? Maybe I'd feel different. But for the way I did it, I was happy to have a break from that.

  • @CziffraTheThird
    @CziffraTheThird 3 роки тому

    My only thing is....why does it sound like Kain and Razeal are beating their enemies with sticks? Annoying!

  • @Yocoshin
    @Yocoshin 6 років тому +1

    the gungrave franchise seems to not get as much attention than it does, There was the ps2 game from 2001, the anime in 2002, and the sequel to the game overdose in 2003. and there is a VR game coming out this year called gungrave VR. I feel like the series needs a lot more attention. espeially the sequel game overdose and the anime

  • @rasheemjohnson1647
    @rasheemjohnson1647 5 років тому +1

    I must be on the minority that really enjoyed bo2

  • @TheOrangex88
    @TheOrangex88 6 років тому

    Thankfully Simon Templeman is still alive and still doing voice acting (thank god) however Tony Jay has passed away a few years ago. Goodnight Elder God, Frolo, Creep from Beauty and The Beast and Ansem the Wise...you will be missed!

  • @LordofSyn
    @LordofSyn 6 років тому

    Colony Wars series was criminally forgotten. Superb series that needs a reboot too.

  • @sickskoobie6768
    @sickskoobie6768 3 роки тому

    I love Soul Reaver 1 and 2 and Legacy Of Kain Defiance! Those are my jams and I use to play and replay them all the time. I would absolutely LOVE to see Kain and Raziel return in a next gen game on the PS4 and or PS5. It makes me a bit sad to think that that might not ever happen, but I'm happy with what we got.

  • @Pork_Chop007
    @Pork_Chop007 4 роки тому

    a game that has been criminally un-seen??
    Chronno Chross. PS1.

  • @hero3250
    @hero3250 6 років тому

    I have played every single game in the series, and own them all (even blood omen 2). I haven't played any of them outside of defiance recently though. I love the entire series, I even don't mind Blood omen 2. The voice work is absolutely incredible, the scripts are amazing, me and my friend will frequently just break into banter where we quote the game in front of people. Nobody has ever recognized it. I would kill for a new game in the series, but please not a soft reboot like the canceled game was going to be. Give me that deep rich lore and story baby.
    Underappreciated series? Does a solo game count? Legend of Dragoon, Skies of Arcadia, Breath of Fire, Grandia... and let's finish the list with a game that isn't an RPG, Power Stone.

  • @chadsavan
    @chadsavan 6 років тому

    I played the games when i was a kid and loved the lovecraftian art style.
    About 6 months ago i replayed Darksiders 2 and realized...fuck this is how a new Legacy of Kain game could look like today. Since then i cant get this series (LoK) out of my mind.
    It was a great franchise and we need it back, especially now with Microsoft saying "no one wants singleplayer/story games" and all this BS lootboxes.

  • @1xXx2012xXx1
    @1xXx2012xXx1 6 років тому +1

    need an actual end, kain is able to defy the elder god, also there are several unanswered questions on the SR/BO games

  • @Casketkrusher_
    @Casketkrusher_ 6 років тому

    I'm sure they took a huge peek at Devil May Cry, hence the combat and camera are pretty similar.

  • @nenadmilovanovic5271
    @nenadmilovanovic5271 3 роки тому

    So many points you made are just strange. You want a series that is praised for its dialogue to be remade by Kojima, a guy who is infamous for his horrible dialogue? Ok. You say that the combat echoes Arkham games? That doesn't make any sense, it is clearly inspired by the likes of Devil may cry that came out before in 2001 ( a game that also had a fixed camera). Also skip Soul Reaver 2, a game that literally sets up the story of Defiance?

  • @wareforcoin5780
    @wareforcoin5780 3 роки тому

    Can you imagine how pants-shittingly terrifying being a Sarafan and seeing Kain bust in your vampire-proof house and kill all your friends? I'd just run. That's all you could do.

  • @KatherinaBathory
    @KatherinaBathory 4 роки тому

    Well... I've read what the Legacy of Kain: Dark Prophecy was going to be and liked it a lot. Dead sun on the other hand... Not so much!
    I disagree that you can skip SR2 if you want to show people these games. Let's face it. The story is the best thing of these games xD

  • @CoreIreland
    @CoreIreland 6 років тому

    Easy answer on the camera, it went with the new combat system they lifted from Devil May Cry. When SR1 came out the 3rd person market was dominated by RE with it's tank controls and TR with it's block spacing. SR stood out by being free moving, where the combat was intentionally optional, you could change up your weapons in or use the environment itself against your enemies. It had the first non-loading world in a console game, the shift mechanic was revolutionary and it had the BEST camera of the generation. The rest of the industry quickly improved and we had great games like Onimusha but it was DMC that made jaws drop. Amazing fast action but with a crap narrative and it didn't matter, it sold anyway. Against that Blood Omen 2 felt last gen and didn't make sales. expectations. In turn Crystal Dynamics adapted the DMC style with cool tweaks to accomodate our heroes. They dropped a lot of the depth and weapons since both characters were locked into using a sword but they still gave it unique flavor. With that combat came the stationary camera as moving ones at the time couldn't frame the action properly. That was also the reason they changed Raziel's ability to shift on the fly to a set location, it was for camera and puzzle framing.

  • @tantusndracovin8223
    @tantusndracovin8223 6 років тому +2

    I have not played the legacy series. I can think of two series I would like to see come back from obscurity, both had their first two games great and a relatively terrible third games, Parasite eve, and Dino crisis. Parasite eve is definitely an underrated rpg, and I loved the original two Dino crisis games, like a fast passed resident evil. Something about dinosaurs that make good suspense horror. Either remakes, or resurrections would be wonderful.

    • @jakejutras2733
      @jakejutras2733 6 років тому

      Tantus N Dracovin why do so many say defiantly instead of definetly?

    • @tantusndracovin8223
      @tantusndracovin8223 6 років тому

      Jake Jutras relying on phone autocorrect too much, at least for me.

  • @gf618
    @gf618 3 роки тому

    I've never played any of the Legacy of Kain games. I don't feel like playing BO1 or SR 1 so I ask if it's possible to play only this game and not feel lost, story-wise? Thanks!

  • @andreww9104
    @andreww9104 6 років тому

    I actively hope they don't reboot or continue the series. As a fan of each installment (and as an apologist for the flaws of each). I think the ending of defiance was what the series needed. Both main characters face "destiny", and all the important questions are answered. The only thing that follow up games would have done was provide the Kain vs god ass-kicking contest, and answered some trivia about how werewolves factor in. I think a reboot (like Dead Sun) would have just messed up like Pillars did.

  • @robertdietz6544
    @robertdietz6544 4 роки тому

    I also appreciate this. Legacy of Kain was my favorite series next to metal gear. So the idea of kojima redoing them. It would be astronomical. I love the orignal blood omen and kain is definitely a favorite character so a remake of the first game would put it back on the map. And maybe rebbit the series. The one they cancelled I feel wasn't going to make it any better. Even though game play looked fun. They could also keep it going. Of course Simon wouldn't be doing kains voice which is regrettable. He made Kain. But Kain still lives and raziel is the soul trapped in the reaver. We could continue kains story and maybe even more evolved with the introduction of a new character. Possibilities are still endless with Kain still alive.

  • @FortressofApathy
    @FortressofApathy 6 років тому

    All of the games are important to the series. Some more than others. Blood Omen 2 is important because it closes the hylden arc (that basically starts at the end of defiance), and puts an end to janos himself. Soul Reaver 2 is definitely NOT a game that should be skipped as it sets the sides in this "war" and introduces all the major players. If anything I'd say Soul Reaver 1 and Blood Omen 1 are the ones to skip as they have less story to them and can be easily read online. People have trouble with this story because it's all out of order, but honestly it's one of the best time travel series out there, mainly because the writers didn't get confused with what they were doing (barring the existence of vorador in BO2). Defiance answers all the questions and whatever is left gets resolved in it's predecessor. I'm glad they finished it then and i'm glad they're not doing any more. Raziel and Kain's story is done.

  • @gwarriorfromhell
    @gwarriorfromhell 2 роки тому

    I know this video is 4 years old, but I recently got the LoK series on GoG for like 8 bucks, and going back through them made me remember how amazing these games were (even the subpar Blood Omen 2, still passable imo) and left me yearning for a new game even more. Maybe the company that bought Eidos can either do a remaster collection to bring these classics to modern systems so many people can see what made these games so appealing and loveable.

  • @TheRetroguitar
    @TheRetroguitar 6 років тому

    both Paul Lukather and Tony Jay passed away, but Alastair Duncan makes for a very well both Elder god and Mortanius, otherwise the next company to tackle the franchise, might be able to edit the passed voice actors, one can only hope that this extraordinary franchise, will be treated with respect and admiration

  • @marcbraun5342
    @marcbraun5342 3 роки тому

    Yes, there is some good stuff in the game but mostly I remembered the fixed camera, that you can't block anymore and that the puzzles aren't that good as in SR2. I can forgive a lot in games, but rarely stuff they already had down in the predecesor and messed it up afterwards. Also SC2 had the more surprising plotpoints especially at the end, time travel stories are rarely done well and even less in games. I also don't care playing as Kain and mostly waited for the Raziel sections. But Defiance was also a good game like all in the series.

  • @phantumgrey
    @phantumgrey 6 років тому

    I’m still pissed they didn’t finish the story after defiance and the ending was not an ending. They were just about to start Kain’s true destiny. It’s wasn’t an ending. It was a beginning. The thing is most gamers are too stupid to understand amazing and complex storylines. Most just understand pew pew pew. Look at how popular COD is and that tells you how stupid most gamers are.

  • @henryhallward
    @henryhallward 3 роки тому

    A great wrap-up, BUT: Simon Templeman is fortunately still with us, it is great Tony Jay who has sadly departed

  • @blackpilloverdose1013
    @blackpilloverdose1013 6 років тому

    This game was amazing I actually just beat it a month ago, but man that fuckin ending 😭 we will never get to see what happens
    Spoiler alert:
    I honestly think the way the game was going I think the next game would have Raziel be a talking sword as you play as Kain to kill the lovecraftian like God and bring the vampire prophecy to full swing I also think the vampire hijacked by the god is the hero of the vampire slaves it seems to make sense but honestly we will never now so at this point it's all conjecture.

  • @volnutt1609
    @volnutt1609 6 років тому

    All do respect. I’m a super fan of this series. Probably because I think it’s one of the greatest stories ever told. And revisiting the series story every year. Your review was great. Some things you might have missed but the interpretation was good. Your opinion of series and other vids you did. Two thumbs up buddy.

  • @matics2808
    @matics2808 Місяць тому

    What do you mean Simone Templeman is”no longer with us” he’s alive, bro.

  • @Coreisus
    @Coreisus 4 роки тому

    Blood Omen 2 is basically Blood Omen 1 but worse.
    A story set to show Kain as an anti hero for his kind. That leaves you shocked to see him as this a-hole at the beginning of Soul Reaver 1

  • @SimDante
    @SimDante 3 роки тому

    I think and feel that Darksiders series have some of the Legacy of Kain soul in it. Lore is not as complicated (YET) but the series have a potential.

  • @jimmybimble8740
    @jimmybimble8740 6 років тому

    A very criminally underrated game is septerra core. It's a turn based rpg for the PC and has some really good lore to it. Keep in mind that it's kinda ruff around the edges and the voice acting is passable. You can find it on steam for about 5$

  • @krosyk637
    @krosyk637 6 років тому

    Great review of the franchise I only just got into Legacy of Kain these past few years I have only played Soul Reaver 1 and going through Blood Omen 1 for my first time right now im a huge fan now of the series this series really is criminally underated

  • @thebyk8832
    @thebyk8832 6 років тому

    If you want an extremely underrated series, check out a game called Genji dawn of the Samurai on ps2, it is an amazing game that practically noone has heard of, the sequal on ps3, Genji days of the blade was also good, but not as good, also im enjoying your channel alot so far, so you got a new sub and i also hit the bell icon

  • @lightningEyes
    @lightningEyes 6 років тому

    If you want a JRPG series that I never see check out Golden Sun. As a kid I played through the first two several times and they are incredible

  • @solomiguex
    @solomiguex Рік тому

    Wow, for me defiance has the worse gameplay after blood omen 2. THe best, soul revaer 1 for me, the freedom, the details and the environment interaction was so promising but got lost with the later games till finish with a static camera and only one weapon. I used to play defiance once in a while for the story but i cant anymore, too annoy and lineal gameplay

  • @samermarash6336
    @samermarash6336 6 років тому

    Im a big fan of this game I played it as a kid , and i still remeber back in 2003 how I waited for LOK Defiance and it was a blast I really wish that they maybe like make a reboot for the game something for the PS4 maybe god damn that would be a dream come true haha

  • @gincairn8763
    @gincairn8763 6 років тому

    There were some annoyances over the series, like the fact that blood omen 2 was not originally designed to be a Kain game, which resulted in some very weird moments, like vorador still living, but overall LoK is still one of my favourite game series.
    Having said that, I'm kinda glad that dead son was cancelled since early footage showed that it would be a reboot rather than finishing the story that Amy Hennig had weaved together so well considering the amount of interference that had come from the suits

  • @KAZ3EM
    @KAZ3EM 3 роки тому

    The wreckingball stuff was........mmmmm........eeeeeeehhhh........weird!!!😲😲😲😲😲😲
    😂🤣😂🤣😂

  • @NewExile
    @NewExile 3 роки тому

    Me : Hey, this is some really good stuff!
    JM : Skip Soul Reaver 2
    Me : You're dead to me

  • @TheCosmicSkeleton
    @TheCosmicSkeleton 6 років тому

    Strangely I played and own every legacy of kain game but this one and blood omen 2. and if you want to play a short and underrated series you can try the gargoyle 's quest games but keep in mind physical copies of 2 and demons crest are a bit expensive

  • @pelgervampireduck
    @pelgervampireduck 3 роки тому

    I don't think you can ignore soul reaver 2.

  • @jaymismith1773
    @jaymismith1773 4 роки тому

    This comment is so late but yes LOK is something I grew up on and know and love as a series...so under rated I feel sorry for those that have yet to give it a chance. For me another series that isn't too much talked about is the Tenchu series. It's stealth and stealth kill gameplay are one of the first of it's kind and level design is also very unique and fits the story of every game mission perfectly. If you ever get to read this I think Tenchu would be a good older game to give a little more light that it more than deserves.

  • @Kserijaro
    @Kserijaro 6 років тому

    They took Devil May Cry formula. Fixed cameras and aerial combos

  • @macdank7328
    @macdank7328 6 років тому

    I wasn't pleased with how the game ended. I felt like there was/ should've been one more game to wrap it all up. The ending was set up for a final game. This is one of my favorite stories of all time; it should've got the ending it deserved. I'm sad that it didn't, but I am very thankful for the memories the series gave me.

  • @jjcdrummer
    @jjcdrummer 2 роки тому

    Alright... The ex girlfriend skit sold me on a sub lmao
    Awesome videos dude!

  • @TheRatzor
    @TheRatzor 5 років тому

    The cut camera angle pissed me off on defiance, the fact that i was forced to use the soul reaver weapons only and could not use environmental weapons also annoying having to reforge the reavers which i already did in Soul Reaver 2 WTF! other than that yeah it was alright

  • @Truekingr6
    @Truekingr6 6 років тому +5

    you are amazing, that wrecking ball part, omg i lost it, thank you so much, i hope you get bigger and get more attention and square enix will see we need some remaster of all games or a reboot, something with raziel and kain in it.

  • @Brandon10dgh
    @Brandon10dgh 5 років тому

    defiance explained questions but the ending to defiance was open ended to lead up to the sequal , which the sequal was in development but because of the buyout of edios by square enix / merger and the cause of the death of the elder god tony jay . the sequal was in development by crystal dynamics and another studio as well but it was sadly cancelled .

  • @andonipioch6286
    @andonipioch6286 4 роки тому

    Nice nice, completely agree, an amazing series that didn’t get the attention it deserved hope we get one again in the future I’m loyal to this games...oldies but goodies bro good review overall id say

  • @tonyalmodovar7629
    @tonyalmodovar7629 3 роки тому

    I honestly feel like this one was the worst of the series. While I love them all. (Yes, all 5) but defiance was my least favorite. It felt like the game lost something compared to the others.

  • @surfacner5989
    @surfacner5989 5 років тому

    Metal gear and legacy of Kain are my favourite series because of the complicated stories and extremely good voice-acting

  • @robertdietz6544
    @robertdietz6544 4 роки тому

    I believe the onimusha games were such a great series that fell under the radar. I had so much fun playing them all. They remastered the first one every console but the others I wish were still great and I wish they would bring that back.