For a while now, I've been interested in seeing a race of Gyarados vs. Milotic: they're actually rivals, having the same stat values, just shuffled. I'd love to see how they do against each other in Hoenn, though there's no rush, obviously.
This makes sense. The only pokémon I consistently struggled with when fighting Cynthia in DPPT was her Milotic. Garchomp was never an issue because after (at the time) 10 years of pokémon experience, you learn that not bringing at least one ice move into the league is basically suicide. Milotic is scary though. I'm not the least bit surprised with its performance.
Honestly, you may want to consider using rare candies early on erratic pokemon. Just to help nudge them into the higher levels where they level up faster.
I think they’re referring to the in game rare candies you come across throughout the playthrough; using them immediately instead of saving them for the last fight
@@grundgutigertv6170 ...and they are suggesting playing in a way to better utilize the uncommon growth rate of the pokemon. What are you even complaining about??
Fun fact, in double battles, if you knock out an opponents Pokémon with a move like Surf (like how you knocked out Solrock) when it hits the other Pokémon the power is no longer divided and the second opponent gets hit with the full power. Tidbit I learned from competitive doubles back in the day.
That news about your voice is so wonderful. So proud of everything you’ve accomplished. It’s really inspiring to see you be so committed to taking care of yourself. Super happy for you, Scott.
95*2 = 190 70*3 = 210 Means two ice beams only deal 10% less than three HP Electrics vs Kingdra. With the extra freeze chance and the chance for high rolls, it's definitely worth it since it's possible that Ice Beam could two shot when HP Electric looks like a three-hit.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: congrats on your progress. I started watching your content around 2 or so Yeats ago when you had less than 10k subs and your content has soared since then, your love and dedication to what you do always shows. You and Jrose are amongst the best of these challenge videos, and I appreciate the differences you have in your content and the fact that you show follow up, more optimized runs after the fact. You're a GOAT
I wonder if for the erratic growth rate should the rare candy usage change? Normally it’s clear that rare candies should be used as late as possible. But since the growth rate experience is so wonky maybe you should be using rare candies as soon as you pick them up. I haven’t done the math, but just a thought
Great to hear about your voice, Scott! I can totally understand how freeing it feels, now that you can record as much content as you want. I once had quite severe RSI, limiting myself both in work and personal activities. Luckily, I also managed to get that under control so I don't have to worry about that anymore either. Anyway, looking forward to your next video tomorrow!
Very impressive run, Milotic's massive special defense and the standard great Ice/Water coverage really carried it hard. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it got a better time than Rayquaza even after a 2nd run for both, there's clearly still room for optimization here, although Rayquaza obviously has more so that's at least debatable. The big thing though is I'm glad to hear about your voice! Good that its taken care of and you can make videos at the rate you want to again.
The real time to beat is undoubtedly going to be Kyogre. Compared to Milotic, it has the same typing and similar moves, but even higher stats (especially SP ATK), free Rain and access to Thunder. I don't think there's an encounter in the game that can really threaten it. The only downside is the slow growth rate, but even then it should be able to brute-force basically everything with tactical application of Rare Candies. I wouldn't be surprised if it can finish up under 1:50 on a first attempt, and will likely be ten minutes ahead of literally everything else. Mewtwo had Poochyena problems, Rayquaza had ice vulnerability and some awkward early moves, Groudon will be strong but Sun does so much less for it than Rain does for Kyogre, Deoxys is very fragile, Ho-oh and Lugia have to wait until level 22 to learn an attacking move, Tyranitar is slow and fears Brawly, Salamence has similar issues to Rayquaza, and Dragonite has them worse with its early movepool...
Hi Scott, I haven't commented on this channel for years but I would like to say, I have always loved your Pokemon Challenge Runs along with MahDryBread and Jrose11. Them and you, inspired me to do my own Pokemon Challenge Runs and I just want to say keep up the good work and I have loved Pokemon since I was 3 years old and my favourites are Fire Red and Emerald. Those games were a huge part of my childhood and thanks to you three, I started to play them again ages ago and doing solo and random challenge runs in updated, quality of life styled rom hacks of the games, so I can keep up to date with the modern, newly released games and still play the regular vanilla game with slight changes to them.
Very happy to hear that your voice has not only gotten better, but improved with training! Also glad to know the time invested in programming is paying off! And thanks for being such an exceptional content creator!
I'm normally here on your Emerald videos to give advice, but I have nothing to add. Not only was Milotic really strong, but your routing was excellent and I didn't see any mistakes in battles that you didn't point out yourself immediately. I liked the way you handled your moveset especially. Going back to buy Ice Beam a second time.e, and the way you used Heart Scales this time around shows your growth since your early generation 3 videos, since you're not only remembering these things are here, but making strategic decisions around them. Good job, this video was a joy to watch.
Yeah, in the last two months I feel like my play in both gen2 and gen3 has got much better. Skill acquisition is a weird thing. For me, it always feels like I plateau for a long period of time (4-6 months) and then all of a sudden all the growth takes place over a 2-3 week period and I look back and wonder what happened.
I never used a Milotic, didn't have the patience to get a feebas and make it pretty. Fun to see its potential, but I still resent its evolution requirements! When I completed the pokedex in X/Y, I just traded for the milotic. XD
Scott is just the best. I was in a bad mood all night for some reason, I watch one video from him and I instantly feel so much better. Glad that I waited until just before bed to finally watch it haha. Also, Milotic is one of my favourite Gen 3 pokemon, so I am happy to see it deliver.
I always love seeing when you have a new video! I wanted to use Milotic in gen 3 as a kid but could never find the right tiles. Tried for days and still never got one 😭 finally got one in gen 4
14:02 A historic moment! I was starting to think we'd never see it. It might not be the Hiker, but a Picnicker is just as good! Also, I'm glad to hear your voice is feeling way better! Thanks for the content, it's always great to watch/listen too.
I miiiight actually like Milotic more than Gyarados, it’s so cool! I remember somehow figuring out how to get one basically by accident as a kid and showing my friends how to get it. I might also relate to it a little as someone who was a bit of an ugly duckling as a kid lol
Milotic is very good at what it does, but it can only do that. It’s begging for a secondary typing. It desperately needs coverage, but even in newer Gens it only gets some Physical coverage.
Holy heck we've seen a trainer during the gondola ride!!! I never knew that was a thing before I started watching your videos but I've been waiting ever since you brought it up!
hello person scrolling by, hope you have a good rest of your day. i hope milotic does decently, it’ll probably do okay against roxanne but then slow down for a bit, then really get going after that
I was quite impressed by the final result. I thought the erratic growth rate would be a big problem. That said, I was completely floored and about lost my mind when you rode the lift up the mountain. Of course a trainer would show up when you've got this majestic Pokemon with you.
This was an absolutely great run, m'boy :D but the absolute highlight for me was when you said you're feeling better, as someone who works with his voice all the time I know just how much of a strain it can be, so I'm very very happy for you :) Keep being awesome.
One small piece of solace for your eventual Slugma playthrough is that at least it isn't part Rock yet. Fire on its own is a pretty solid defensive typing (outside of Gen 1), even before the introduction of the Fairy type. Slugma still has a myriad of issues of course, but at least it doesn't have double weaknesses to two of the most common and potent offensive types in the game (especially in Hoenn, where there is infamously "too much water.")
The outro of this video is so wholesome! I am very glad you're feeling better Scott, and we are all happy to have you here! I am very much looking forward to the future and more videos and streams from you. Also, I am glad that you've mentioned doing a solo playthrough with Gardevoir since it is my favorite Pokemon so I am very much looking forward to it! Although I do not expect it to be very good thanks to its Slow growth rate. Other than that it is a very good Pokemon - in fact, it gets MUCH better after Generation VI since it gains the Fairy typing. In any case, I am still looking forward to the playthrough and seeing how my favorite Pokemon performs in your hands!
It's kind of sad that Milotic learns Dragon Dance and Coil but not Calm Mind or any other special attack-boosting moves. If Kartana, Spinda, and Serperior (who is also a snake thing) can learn Calm Mind, why not Milotic?
I never got to use Milotic growing up, but finally decided to in a playthrough several years ago, and was incredibly impressed. That thing is a beast, and it quickly became my team's ace. Earned an eternal respect from me that day.
So when it comes to comparing EXP groups, I think total EXP is the best metric to do so. Even if you're using less EXP to get to the next level, if you're behind on total EXP you'll still just be a lower level, so with that in mind its time to look at Erratic and how it compares. Erratic is slower than the Slow growth rate all the way until Level 38. It's slower than the Fluctuating growth rate until 46 and is exactly on par with Medium Fast at Level 50, both requiring the same amount of EXP. It's slower than Medium Slow until 55 and slower than Fast until level 71, where they both require the exact same amount of EXP again. What this largely means is that the Erratic growth rate is really bad in the early to early-mid game, and only starts beginning to outpace the other growth rates past level 50, which is pretty late into a run. I think Milotic just benefits from being a really solid Pokemon overall with good stats, typing, and movepool. Ninjask has the Erratic growth rate so uh. Be prepared for that one! Also fun fact: while the exp needed to get to the next level grows in a pretty stable fashion for the original 4 growth rates, Erratic and Fluctuating are named that because they actually have strange curves. It's not very noticeable with Erratic, but towards the back end of the curve, Fluctuating has levels that jump up and down by thousands of EXP. For example, at Level 70, it needs 19,980 EXP to get to 71, then 28,017 EXP to get to Level 72, and then it drops backdown to 21,446 EXP to get to Level 73! It's really weird! During the final few levels, the differences between the peaks and valleys is almost 20,000 EXP!
Milotic did really good though, and the fact that it powered through its honestly kind of detrimental growth rate is a real testament to just how good this Pokemon is. But I also don't want to forget the better play too! Eventually I think Emerald will have a period much like Crystal where times across the board start to fall as you get better and better. So while Milotic is sub 2 hours, I definitely doubt its going to be the only one, or one of a few, for very long!
For those interested, here are the comparisons for Fluctuating too: Faster than Medium Slow Until: Level 21 Faster than Fast Until: Level 26 Faster than Medium Fast Until: Level 38 Faster than Slow Until: Level 62 Faster than Erratic Until: Level 46 Hilariously this growth rate is so weird there's also a brief moment at Level 11 where Medium Slow is faster by 3 EXP, and then becomes slower again. Really just a bizarre EXP curve.
I'm so glad about your voice!!! Keep up the great work man! Your videos are literally the best quality beside Jrose11's videos. Everyone else is line a straight tier below, keep up the great work, and I'm so glad you're enjoying Emerald more, and becoming even better at it. I look forward to seeing your continued improvement!
I liked this comment because I really appreciate the support! However, there are lots of other small creators that are doing an amazing job. I’m lucky because my channel is a size that allows me to hire support and that is really a major advantage that lets me pump out stuff of this quality this quickly!
I simply am obsessed with Milotic 😊! Since I saw it in the anime the first time I fell for it! I was like... I want to have it, I want to have it in my party! I never understood why I couldn't catch Feebas in the route 119, I never could get it 😢, but finally one day I found out, ever since I have always used Milotic in my party! I had no doubt it would be good in a solo run but not this much, man! Wow imagine how Kyogre could fare in this game, it learns thunder and it makes rain! The best Pokemon ever, Kyogre! But Milotic certainly has a great move pool! It really stood out! Scott, an excellent job with Milotic, thank you very much, you made Milotic worthy of its recognizing as a beautiful and strong water Pokemon! You were brilliant! 👏👍Way to go!!!
I thought Juan had a Luvdisc because he's supposed to be a Cassanova ladies' man kinda guy, but I forgot his protege Wallace uses one as a Gym Leader in Ruby & Sapphire too (their teams share three pokemon in fact) and Wallace is just kind of a fruit (I still hate his ORAS pants, they haunt me in Masters EX) with a thing for beauty and elegance, as is Juan. I guess they both think it's a pretty heart-shaped fishie. I see it as a source of Heart Scales 😛
Milotic is the gen 3 Gyarados in a sense. It's over powered, and has a great ability with some incredible stats to back it up ,on the defensive department. Marvel scale is great ability,and I think that you could have used it more on early game, especially against Brawly. Because I think that you'll that extra defense boost to outlast his attcks . With marvel scale that could be possible in theory. Because once Milotic is inflicted with status, it's defence is increasing by 50%. You can poison it by fighting wurmples or Roselias that could poison Milotic in order to activate this ability.😁 By the way ,the art for Milotic for this video was really beautiful. It captures the essence of the beauty of that Pokémon. 😊 I really like how you put a lot of thought to these tiny details. Well done.😄
AH SWEET! Altaria playthrough. Great video man, the smoothness of the transitions have gotten better. I should probably get around to time stamp the Corsola Live stream and the Celebi live playthrough.
Hey scott, since you can modify your game, what do you think about a mini series about how the game treats a pokemon that doesnt get any moves at all in the first three gens? Like, what would happen if the milotic had zero level 1 moves, everything is just - and you try to use a move? Does the game crash? Does it use struggle? What happens? I wonder if you are interested in testing that.
That was absolute HYPE well done milotic! One of my fave pokemon :D great video Scott! I would actually love to see you do a Rayquaza Vs Milotic video haha
Still crazy to me feebas had such an obscure way to find it with the only reset being a random NPC across the map and said “let’s make it even rarer in gen 4”
Milotic's such a cool Pokémon. It's a shame that it had such a stupid way of evolving in this generation, but at least it got better later for that. =P
My prediction at the start of the run is that milotic is going to struggle vs wattson obviously but also wallace. Edit: wow I was really impressed by milotic!
One to adjust Milotics's base stats. Everything seems great outside of that 60 Attack, 79 Defense and 81 Speed. Would change: Attack to 70, Defense to 90, and Speed to 85.
37:33 It didn't impress me. Milotic is lovely lovely strong and I have known it for a long time. It has the damage, it's fast, it's tanky and it has the healing few pokemon get access to in a solo challenge via recover.
I can't accept your pronunciation of Rayquaza. There are so few words in English that pronounce QUA with a hard A sound, and most of them have an I after the A. Contrarily, almost all QUA words are pronounced "kwah". Quad, qualify, quantum, quantify, as compared to quail, quaint, and quaalude. I don't think there is any strong argument to pronounce it "kway" unless some official source like the anime says otherwise, but Pokémon company has a history of poorly pronouncing their own creations (Arcanine, Raikou).
milotic doesn't gets calm mind this gen? Weird. Its kinda their bread and butter. H.pump or surf /C.mind/Ice beam/Recover. This is kinda their most used set along starting in gen 4 a fire orb (you trigger burn, burn doesn't gets increased DoT and nets you that free 50% boost to defense via marvel scale)
Milotic is actually a really good Pokemon, but has historically been one of the hardest Pokemon to obtain in the games. Feebas in third generation can only appear on certain tiles based on your trainer id. I do like using it in battle though.
I remember being upset I could never obtain this Pokémon when this game first came out. I was 8 years old. 19 years later in the summer of 2022 I hunted for a Feebas and I found the spot in my Sapphire copy. You bet I caught as many as I could until they stopped spawning in that location. Edit: I’m not surprised Milotic was so great, I’m beyond happy that Scott is doing better and doesn’t have to worry about his voice. Love your channel man.
Considering how many Rare Candies were picked up, and how you said Erratic is best at later levels, if you ever redo this run, it might be worth considering using a number of early candies as soon as you pick them up. Sub 1:50 time, maybe? 😂 (not likely, I know 😅)
Not gonna lie, I thought Wattson would be a reset, glad to be wrong and seeing Milotic just plowing through most of the game :) Funny to think that with Marvel Scale, Milotic could've just stalled Metagross with Rest even without the Chesto Berry.
Scott, I've given you shit in the past for resting or using recover when I believe you should attack and then I saw you facing Tate and Liza. I'm proud of you. Just surf em.
I have a theory that when the devs gave Red's Snorlax Rest, they finally realized the move was OP. It would explain why Moonlight, Synthesis, and Refresh are all much weaker than Rest and Recover.
Still at the start of the Vid. But this one could be realy harsh. Milotic might have the inferior Ice Beam on its kit, but its laking the superior Sunny Day. I hope this goes well and you do not encounter the OP as Hell Electric Steal Venomoth!
So glad I found your channel brother❤ absolutely love love loved your Gardevoir run!!! Your the best congratulations on your marriage man you earned a new subscriber 😅😊🎉
Just remember that hot tea with honey and lemon is a well known singer's trick to soothe the throat. Thanks for the videos! I listened to your Nuzlock of Yellow while playing Violet this morning and really enjoyed it!
Seems like your voice got the fabled PP up, cheers! Every single video you've made has brought a great smile to my face. Keep up the good work my top lad!
Funny and perfectly useless fact about the mountain side : Originally there should be a Zigzagoon that can pop here too, but due too an error in the code, it doesn't (even when forcing it with some software you can barely see him behind the rocks anyway...) Maybe you can correct this error in a romhack to have a chance to see it, i don't know this much but it looks doable
Honestly, it's worth wondering, considering how difficult it is for Milotic to level up in the early game, would be worth it to use some Rare Candies much earlier?
14:10 Oh, wow, this is real? I thought you were making the hiker thing up to increase engagement, you know, get people to comment about how it's not a thing. I'm sorry for thinking something so sleazy of you, Scott.
Glad your voice is doing better!! Also did you know you can get hidden power before flannary? This might help for any grass or bug types that struggle against her
Scott, not sure if you'll read this but you don't need to talk to the rival's pokeball at the start of the game: instead you can go up stairs and then immediately back down then go to leave the rivals house and that will still trigger the text with the rival Edit: If your confused by that iv just posted a vid doing this exact thing on my channel. There shouldn't be any audio.
I'm so glad to hear you're feeling much better! Really goes to show that your vocal chords are muscles that need exercise, too. I'm really looking forward to the rest of May!
The fact we never got Mega Milotic is a war crime
Accurate it would have had an absolutely amazing sprite
Thank goodness for ROM hacks - Mega Milotic in Inclement Emerald is beautiful
For me Milotic is perfect as it is
megas are the warcrime ...
just as the fact that Luxray is not Electric/Dark, Psyduck si not Water/Psychic and Electivire is not Electric/Fighting.
For a while now, I've been interested in seeing a race of Gyarados vs. Milotic: they're actually rivals, having the same stat values, just shuffled. I'd love to see how they do against each other in Hoenn, though there's no rush, obviously.
Second this
Not only Hoenn, Kanto should also be done, in FR or LG
Both Gyarados and Milotic have abilities that patch up their physical defense, and Hidden Abilities that buff their best offensive stat.
Gyarados gets no physical stab in gen 3 outside of hp flying which kinda hurts it.
This makes sense. The only pokémon I consistently struggled with when fighting Cynthia in DPPT was her Milotic. Garchomp was never an issue because after (at the time) 10 years of pokémon experience, you learn that not bringing at least one ice move into the league is basically suicide. Milotic is scary though. I'm not the least bit surprised with its performance.
Honestly, you may want to consider using rare candies early on erratic pokemon. Just to help nudge them into the higher levels where they level up faster.
I disagree. Their growth rate are a part of them. It strongly belongs to how the pokemon plays
I think they’re referring to the in game rare candies you come across throughout the playthrough; using them immediately instead of saving them for the last fight
@@grundgutigertv6170 ...and they are suggesting playing in a way to better utilize the uncommon growth rate of the pokemon. What are you even complaining about??
@@hannahbriarly4192 i thought you were talking about cheated rare candies
@@grundgutigertv6170 ohh I see
Fun fact, in double battles, if you knock out an opponents Pokémon with a move like Surf (like how you knocked out Solrock) when it hits the other Pokémon the power is no longer divided and the second opponent gets hit with the full power. Tidbit I learned from competitive doubles back in the day.
That news about your voice is so wonderful. So proud of everything you’ve accomplished. It’s really inspiring to see you be so committed to taking care of yourself. Super happy for you, Scott.
95*2 = 190
70*3 = 210
Means two ice beams only deal 10% less than three HP Electrics vs Kingdra.
With the extra freeze chance and the chance for high rolls, it's definitely worth it since it's possible that Ice Beam could two shot when HP Electric looks like a three-hit.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: congrats on your progress. I started watching your content around 2 or so Yeats ago when you had less than 10k subs and your content has soared since then, your love and dedication to what you do always shows. You and Jrose are amongst the best of these challenge videos, and I appreciate the differences you have in your content and the fact that you show follow up, more optimized runs after the fact. You're a GOAT
I wonder if for the erratic growth rate should the rare candy usage change? Normally it’s clear that rare candies should be used as late as possible. But since the growth rate experience is so wonky maybe you should be using rare candies as soon as you pick them up. I haven’t done the math, but just a thought
I was thinking this too! However Milotic didn’t struggle early on at all so I ended up putting off using them until it was at a high level.
That’s totally fair! Thanks for the awesome run. Love your content ^_^
Great to hear about your voice, Scott! I can totally understand how freeing it feels, now that you can record as much content as you want. I once had quite severe RSI, limiting myself both in work and personal activities. Luckily, I also managed to get that under control so I don't have to worry about that anymore either. Anyway, looking forward to your next video tomorrow!
I love milotic, I'm so excited!
Edit: OMG altaria tomorrow!? I love it too!
There might be plenty of other Pokémon challenge runners to choose from, but when it comes to solo runs, no one else comperes.
With a move like refresh vs Watson, if you're faster it will always be worth going for refresh to reduce the chances of full paralysis turns.
Very impressive run, Milotic's massive special defense and the standard great Ice/Water coverage really carried it hard. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it got a better time than Rayquaza even after a 2nd run for both, there's clearly still room for optimization here, although Rayquaza obviously has more so that's at least debatable.
The big thing though is I'm glad to hear about your voice! Good that its taken care of and you can make videos at the rate you want to again.
I’m so happy about my voice! Also, I think Milotic may end up competing with the best of the best in this gen once I do a second playthrough.
The real time to beat is undoubtedly going to be Kyogre.
Compared to Milotic, it has the same typing and similar moves, but even higher stats (especially SP ATK), free Rain and access to Thunder.
I don't think there's an encounter in the game that can really threaten it.
The only downside is the slow growth rate, but even then it should be able to brute-force basically everything with tactical application of Rare Candies.
I wouldn't be surprised if it can finish up under 1:50 on a first attempt, and will likely be ten minutes ahead of literally everything else.
Mewtwo had Poochyena problems, Rayquaza had ice vulnerability and some awkward early moves, Groudon will be strong but Sun does so much less for it than Rain does for Kyogre, Deoxys is very fragile, Ho-oh and Lugia have to wait until level 22 to learn an attacking move, Tyranitar is slow and fears Brawly, Salamence has similar issues to Rayquaza, and Dragonite has them worse with its early movepool...
Hi Scott, I haven't commented on this channel for years but I would like to say, I have always loved your Pokemon Challenge Runs along with MahDryBread and Jrose11. Them and you, inspired me to do my own Pokemon Challenge Runs and I just want to say keep up the good work and I have loved Pokemon since I was 3 years old and my favourites are Fire Red and Emerald. Those games were a huge part of my childhood and thanks to you three, I started to play them again ages ago and doing solo and random challenge runs in updated, quality of life styled rom hacks of the games, so I can keep up to date with the modern, newly released games and still play the regular vanilla game with slight changes to them.
Scott is my GOAT
Do u get on your knees for him as well? 😂
He Is actually a Man
Getting that early like & comment for algorithm purposes
Slugma is one of my favorites. I'd love to see a run with em.
Man. I love the Slugma line but they suck so much in this game.. Would be an interesting watch for sure.
Very happy to hear that your voice has not only gotten better, but improved with training! Also glad to know the time invested in programming is paying off! And thanks for being such an exceptional content creator!
I'm normally here on your Emerald videos to give advice, but I have nothing to add. Not only was Milotic really strong, but your routing was excellent and I didn't see any mistakes in battles that you didn't point out yourself immediately. I liked the way you handled your moveset especially. Going back to buy Ice Beam a second time.e, and the way you used Heart Scales this time around shows your growth since your early generation 3 videos, since you're not only remembering these things are here, but making strategic decisions around them.
Good job, this video was a joy to watch.
Yeah, in the last two months I feel like my play in both gen2 and gen3 has got much better. Skill acquisition is a weird thing. For me, it always feels like I plateau for a long period of time (4-6 months) and then all of a sudden all the growth takes place over a 2-3 week period and I look back and wonder what happened.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon I'm the same way. Your growth in these skills is very clear. Now I just gotta find time to watch the Altaria video.
I never used a Milotic, didn't have the patience to get a feebas and make it pretty. Fun to see its potential, but I still resent its evolution requirements!
When I completed the pokedex in X/Y, I just traded for the milotic. XD
Scott is just the best. I was in a bad mood all night for some reason, I watch one video from him and I instantly feel so much better. Glad that I waited until just before bed to finally watch it haha. Also, Milotic is one of my favourite Gen 3 pokemon, so I am happy to see it deliver.
Early like, cause I already know it's gonna be awesome 👌 👏 👍
I always love seeing when you have a new video! I wanted to use Milotic in gen 3 as a kid but could never find the right tiles. Tried for days and still never got one 😭 finally got one in gen 4
14:02 A historic moment! I was starting to think we'd never see it.
It might not be the Hiker, but a Picnicker is just as good!
Also, I'm glad to hear your voice is feeling way better! Thanks for the content, it's always great to watch/listen too.
I miiiight actually like Milotic more than Gyarados, it’s so cool! I remember somehow figuring out how to get one basically by accident as a kid and showing my friends how to get it. I might also relate to it a little as someone who was a bit of an ugly duckling as a kid lol
Milotic is very good at what it does, but it can only do that. It’s begging for a secondary typing. It desperately needs coverage, but even in newer Gens it only gets some Physical coverage.
For the Algorithm :)
FOR THE ALGORITHM!!! THIS IS SCOTTA!!!
Ok why did gamefreak need to give it 79 defense and 81 speed and not 80 of both?
Why, just why
Holy heck we've seen a trainer during the gondola ride!!! I never knew that was a thing before I started watching your videos but I've been waiting ever since you brought it up!
hello person scrolling by, hope you have a good rest of your day.
i hope milotic does decently, it’ll probably do okay against roxanne but then slow down for a bit, then really get going after that
Zigzagoon can appear on the mountain along with the hikers. But it's invisible
I was quite impressed by the final result. I thought the erratic growth rate would be a big problem. That said, I was completely floored and about lost my mind when you rode the lift up the mountain. Of course a trainer would show up when you've got this majestic Pokemon with you.
I'm so happy we saw the Camper!
Fun story about my Motlic the strongest one I have is a boy I nickname him Charmer after Prince Charming
Sweet, a run of my favorite pokemon! Definitely going to enjoy this xD
Im glad your Health is getting better! And I look forward to new videos!
This was an absolutely great run, m'boy :D but the absolute highlight for me was when you said you're feeling better, as someone who works with his voice all the time I know just how much of a strain it can be, so I'm very very happy for you :) Keep being awesome.
Yes, Milotic is pretty good.
Too bad in Gen 3 they made it near impossible to get
seems that pokemon with high special defense always do pretty well.
One small piece of solace for your eventual Slugma playthrough is that at least it isn't part Rock yet. Fire on its own is a pretty solid defensive typing (outside of Gen 1), even before the introduction of the Fairy type.
Slugma still has a myriad of issues of course, but at least it doesn't have double weaknesses to two of the most common and potent offensive types in the game (especially in Hoenn, where there is infamously "too much water.")
The outro of this video is so wholesome! I am very glad you're feeling better Scott, and we are all happy to have you here! I am very much looking forward to the future and more videos and streams from you.
Also, I am glad that you've mentioned doing a solo playthrough with Gardevoir since it is my favorite Pokemon so I am very much looking forward to it! Although I do not expect it to be very good thanks to its Slow growth rate. Other than that it is a very good Pokemon - in fact, it gets MUCH better after Generation VI since it gains the Fairy typing. In any case, I am still looking forward to the playthrough and seeing how my favorite Pokemon performs in your hands!
It's kind of sad that Milotic learns Dragon Dance and Coil but not Calm Mind or any other special attack-boosting moves. If Kartana, Spinda, and Serperior (who is also a snake thing) can learn Calm Mind, why not Milotic?
Calm Mind on this thing would be busted
Wow, Milotic is a beast. I thought it would do well, but not THAT well. And glad your voice is feeling better, man.
Yeah this thing is fantastic!
I feel like there is a lot of time to save on this run. Look forward to secobd runs of this gen. Amazing run though.
I never got to use Milotic growing up, but finally decided to in a playthrough several years ago, and was incredibly impressed. That thing is a beast, and it quickly became my team's ace. Earned an eternal respect from me that day.
I now see why everyone says this thing is awesome. No wonder it became your ace.
I'm so glad your voice is feeling so much better! Glad it was a relatively easy fix vs some of the medical issues it could have been 💜
Today we learn that the Lotad is is mightier than the Nosepass :).
Facts
So when it comes to comparing EXP groups, I think total EXP is the best metric to do so. Even if you're using less EXP to get to the next level, if you're behind on total EXP you'll still just be a lower level, so with that in mind its time to look at Erratic and how it compares.
Erratic is slower than the Slow growth rate all the way until Level 38. It's slower than the Fluctuating growth rate until 46 and is exactly on par with Medium Fast at Level 50, both requiring the same amount of EXP. It's slower than Medium Slow until 55 and slower than Fast until level 71, where they both require the exact same amount of EXP again.
What this largely means is that the Erratic growth rate is really bad in the early to early-mid game, and only starts beginning to outpace the other growth rates past level 50, which is pretty late into a run. I think Milotic just benefits from being a really solid Pokemon overall with good stats, typing, and movepool. Ninjask has the Erratic growth rate so uh. Be prepared for that one!
Also fun fact: while the exp needed to get to the next level grows in a pretty stable fashion for the original 4 growth rates, Erratic and Fluctuating are named that because they actually have strange curves. It's not very noticeable with Erratic, but towards the back end of the curve, Fluctuating has levels that jump up and down by thousands of EXP. For example, at Level 70, it needs 19,980 EXP to get to 71, then 28,017 EXP to get to Level 72, and then it drops backdown to 21,446 EXP to get to Level 73! It's really weird! During the final few levels, the differences between the peaks and valleys is almost 20,000 EXP!
Milotic did really good though, and the fact that it powered through its honestly kind of detrimental growth rate is a real testament to just how good this Pokemon is. But I also don't want to forget the better play too! Eventually I think Emerald will have a period much like Crystal where times across the board start to fall as you get better and better. So while Milotic is sub 2 hours, I definitely doubt its going to be the only one, or one of a few, for very long!
For those interested, here are the comparisons for Fluctuating too:
Faster than Medium Slow Until: Level 21
Faster than Fast Until: Level 26
Faster than Medium Fast Until: Level 38
Faster than Slow Until: Level 62
Faster than Erratic Until: Level 46
Hilariously this growth rate is so weird there's also a brief moment at Level 11 where Medium Slow is faster by 3 EXP, and then becomes slower again. Really just a bizarre EXP curve.
I'm so glad about your voice!!! Keep up the great work man! Your videos are literally the best quality beside Jrose11's videos. Everyone else is line a straight tier below, keep up the great work, and I'm so glad you're enjoying Emerald more, and becoming even better at it. I look forward to seeing your continued improvement!
I liked this comment because I really appreciate the support! However, there are lots of other small creators that are doing an amazing job. I’m lucky because my channel is a size that allows me to hire support and that is really a major advantage that lets me pump out stuff of this quality this quickly!
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon You're a good dude, keep it up!
I simply am obsessed with Milotic 😊! Since I saw it in the anime the first time I fell for it! I was like... I want to have it, I want to have it in my party! I never understood why I couldn't catch Feebas in the route 119, I never could get it 😢, but finally one day I found out, ever since I have always used Milotic in my party! I had no doubt it would be good in a solo run but not this much, man! Wow imagine how Kyogre could fare in this game, it learns thunder and it makes rain! The best Pokemon ever, Kyogre! But Milotic certainly has a great move pool! It really stood out! Scott, an excellent job with Milotic, thank you very much, you made Milotic worthy of its recognizing as a beautiful and strong water Pokemon! You were brilliant! 👏👍Way to go!!!
How do you get to pick milotic as a first Pokemon? Also how are you playing this/recording for a UA-cam vid. 🤔
Hell yea I'm a porygon z in the credits. That's one of my top 5 🤣 but holy Milotic is a beast. Bulky water types are always just so great
I thought Juan had a Luvdisc because he's supposed to be a Cassanova ladies' man kinda guy, but I forgot his protege Wallace uses one as a Gym Leader in Ruby & Sapphire too (their teams share three pokemon in fact) and Wallace is just kind of a fruit (I still hate his ORAS pants, they haunt me in Masters EX) with a thing for beauty and elegance, as is Juan. I guess they both think it's a pretty heart-shaped fishie. I see it as a source of Heart Scales 😛
Last week, I was playing soulsilver and I got the 1/65,535 lottery jackpot. Somehow a more common occurrence than Scott seeing a hiker.
Milotic is the gen 3 Gyarados in a sense. It's over powered, and has a great ability with some incredible stats to back it up ,on the defensive department.
Marvel scale is great ability,and I think that you could have used it more on early game, especially against Brawly. Because I think that you'll that extra defense boost to outlast his attcks . With marvel scale that could be possible in theory. Because once Milotic is inflicted with status, it's defence is increasing by 50%. You can poison it by fighting wurmples or Roselias that could poison Milotic in order to activate this ability.😁
By the way ,the art for Milotic for this video was really beautiful. It captures the essence of the beauty of that Pokémon. 😊 I really like how you put a lot of thought to these tiny details. Well done.😄
AH SWEET! Altaria playthrough. Great video man, the smoothness of the transitions have gotten better. I should probably get around to time stamp the Corsola Live stream and the Celebi live playthrough.
Hey scott, since you can modify your game, what do you think about a mini series about how the game treats a pokemon that doesnt get any moves at all in the first three gens? Like, what would happen if the milotic had zero level 1 moves, everything is just - and you try to use a move? Does the game crash? Does it use struggle? What happens?
I wonder if you are interested in testing that.
That was absolute HYPE well done milotic! One of my fave pokemon :D great video Scott! I would actually love to see you do a Rayquaza Vs Milotic video haha
So happy to hear about your voice, dude! That's an awesome update, and I bet a yuge relief on your part!
Still crazy to me feebas had such an obscure way to find it with the only reset being a random NPC across the map and said “let’s make it even rarer in gen 4”
Milotic's such a cool Pokémon. It's a shame that it had such a stupid way of evolving in this generation, but at least it got better later for that. =P
My prediction at the start of the run is that milotic is going to struggle vs wattson obviously but also wallace.
Edit: wow I was really impressed by milotic!
I'm not sure if I've ever used pokemon with the eratic growth, or fluctuating for that matter, during a regular playthrough.
For the algorithm
One to adjust Milotics's base stats. Everything seems great outside of that 60 Attack, 79 Defense and 81 Speed. Would change: Attack to 70, Defense to 90, and Speed to 85.
37:33 It didn't impress me. Milotic is lovely lovely strong and I have known it for a long time.
It has the damage, it's fast, it's tanky and it has the healing few pokemon get access to in a solo challenge via recover.
I can't accept your pronunciation of Rayquaza. There are so few words in English that pronounce QUA with a hard A sound, and most of them have an I after the A. Contrarily, almost all QUA words are pronounced "kwah". Quad, qualify, quantum, quantify, as compared to quail, quaint, and quaalude. I don't think there is any strong argument to pronounce it "kway" unless some official source like the anime says otherwise, but Pokémon company has a history of poorly pronouncing their own creations (Arcanine, Raikou).
Rain Dance is interesting. It's only worthwhile if it saves you two turns, and you have to calculate if that's worthwhile.
2:27 I mean you can skip Brawley and I dont think Roxanne will be an issue, so the only problem is Watson and that's not so "early game" anymore.
21:15 - Good old fashioned "Bolt-Beam" combo (even if janky) + Stab Surf on a good Special Attacker, such a nice reliable damage-dealing moveset.....
milotic doesn't gets calm mind this gen? Weird. Its kinda their bread and butter.
H.pump or surf /C.mind/Ice beam/Recover. This is kinda their most used set along starting in gen 4 a fire orb (you trigger burn, burn doesn't gets increased DoT and nets you that free 50% boost to defense via marvel scale)
Is 1st of November going to be the "perfect day" for Gardevoir's playthrough? I'm curious about which day and why LOL
Milotic is actually a really good Pokemon, but has historically been one of the hardest Pokemon to obtain in the games. Feebas in third generation can only appear on certain tiles based on your trainer id. I do like using it in battle though.
I remember being upset I could never obtain this Pokémon when this game first came out. I was 8 years old. 19 years later in the summer of 2022 I hunted for a Feebas and I found the spot in my Sapphire copy. You bet I caught as many as I could until they stopped spawning in that location.
Edit: I’m not surprised Milotic was so great, I’m beyond happy that Scott is doing better and doesn’t have to worry about his voice. Love your channel man.
14:03: A wild Camper appears!
It uses Enerald Hiking on Scott.
It's super effective!
4:03 "flying type erratic growth rate pokemon" foreshadowing a swablu/altaria run? 🤔
edit: lol confirmed at the end, I'm excited!
Considering how many Rare Candies were picked up, and how you said Erratic is best at later levels, if you ever redo this run, it might be worth considering using a number of early candies as soon as you pick them up. Sub 1:50 time, maybe? 😂
(not likely, I know 😅)
I used to not think anything of Slugma the Pokemon when I played this as a kid. Now the existence of Ligma in pop culture has ruined Slugma for me.
24:59 if i'm correct the damage of Surf and Earthquake is 0.75 to all the other Pokemon. And Moves like Rock Slide is 0.5.
Pokémon? Yes ❤
Data? 😳 please
Scott’s thoughts? 🙏🏽 thank you
Not gonna lie, I thought Wattson would be a reset, glad to be wrong and seeing Milotic just plowing through most of the game :)
Funny to think that with Marvel Scale, Milotic could've just stalled Metagross with Rest even without the Chesto Berry.
3:55 Can't that one be avoided? It's been a long time but if possible I'd avoid that one. Doesn't look like it's worth it.
Scott, I've given you shit in the past for resting or using recover when I believe you should attack and then I saw you facing Tate and Liza. I'm proud of you. Just surf em.
I have a theory that when the devs gave Red's Snorlax Rest, they finally realized the move was OP. It would explain why Moonlight, Synthesis, and Refresh are all much weaker than Rest and Recover.
Good pokemon, I fucking hate gamefreaks obsession with overpowering water types though.
Still at the start of the Vid. But this one could be realy harsh.
Milotic might have the inferior Ice Beam on its kit, but its laking the superior Sunny Day.
I hope this goes well and you do not encounter the OP as Hell Electric Steal Venomoth!
So glad I found your channel brother❤ absolutely love love loved your Gardevoir run!!! Your the best congratulations on your marriage man you earned a new subscriber 😅😊🎉
Welcome to the channel! Good to have you here!
Pretty impressive. Especially because you would've been even 5min faster if you used the rare candys immediatly before the champion battle
Just remember that hot tea with honey and lemon is a well known singer's trick to soothe the throat.
Thanks for the videos! I listened to your Nuzlock of Yellow while playing Violet this morning and really enjoyed it!
Seems like your voice got the fabled PP up, cheers! Every single video you've made has brought a great smile to my face. Keep up the good work my top lad!
Funny and perfectly useless fact about the mountain side :
Originally there should be a Zigzagoon that can pop here too, but due too an error in the code, it doesn't
(even when forcing it with some software you can barely see him behind the rocks anyway...)
Maybe you can correct this error in a romhack to have a chance to see it, i don't know this much but it looks doable
Honestly, it's worth wondering, considering how difficult it is for Milotic to level up in the early game, would be worth it to use some Rare Candies much earlier?
14:10 Oh, wow, this is real? I thought you were making the hiker thing up to increase engagement, you know, get people to comment about how it's not a thing. I'm sorry for thinking something so sleazy of you, Scott.
quick qeustion would magnet apply to hidden power.. because its a normal move.. but its coded to pokemon in a weird way so is it technically electric?
11:59 I noticed that Watson's sprite is off center. I know how much pride you take in your layouts, and you have probably addressed this already 😂
Glad your voice is doing better!! Also did you know you can get hidden power before flannary? This might help for any grass or bug types that struggle against her
Calm nature would work wonders lower Attack over Special Defense. Milotic was practically all special in gen 3 anyways
Scott, not sure if you'll read this but you don't need to talk to the rival's pokeball at the start of the game: instead you can go up stairs and then immediately back down then go to leave the rivals house and that will still trigger the text with the rival
Edit: If your confused by that iv just posted a vid doing this exact thing on my channel. There shouldn't be any audio.
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I'm so glad to hear you're feeling much better! Really goes to show that your vocal chords are muscles that need exercise, too. I'm really looking forward to the rest of May!