I have seen a lot of airshows in my day especially growing up near Travis AFB, but, no one puts on a better show than CALFIRE! The amount of firefighting capabilities of these people are amazing! I have been evacuated 3 times where I live now and all three times we were saved by CALFIRE and there air operations. They have only gotten better with the inclusion of the Firehawk helicopter!
I live in southern Oregon. Back in 2018 we had a bad wildfire season. Air quality steadily diminished over a three week period and several residents in our county passed away from respiratory issues. One day I heard a jet aircraft flying low and went outside in time to see an Il-76 tanker flying maybe 2000 ft overhead. Man those things are loud! Then it flew over again 20 minutes later and a third time after that. I heard that they were trying to get properly lined up with the spotter plane to make the drop. In any case, they did what they do, and the next day the smoke was 50% better, and within a week the fires were contained and the air was clear again.
That is a Russian aircraft! You are saying it was in operation in Oregon in 2018? I find that very hard to believe, thus I find YOU very hard to believe
An Il-76 Russian-made plane acting as a water-bomber in U.S. airspace⁉ Not doubting you because they ARE used as tankers against wildfires. Just a little hard to believe that the U.S. government reached out to a company that might have them when there are PLENTY of ANG C-130's and SC-9's equipped for the task. Thank goodness you survived the fires.
how old is this presentation? The Martin Mars; based in BC, Canada, were retired in 2015, so 10 years ago and now are museum pieces. There were only 2 in service at that time.
All these machines and their Pilots are really impressive.....such acute flying skills required to fly these huge Planes in zig zag fashion around the hills, and close to the ground - - Awesome !!!!
My brother worked on rivetting the skins of these these SuperScoopers. These planes are built in Quebec by Canadair. And you think we will get thanks from Trump for all what Canada is doing in helping with the fires.
You all may know that a few years ago, the 747 air bomber was taken out of service. The operators, if I remember correctly, could no longer afford to keep the giant flying, and the maintenance costs were too high. It did not pass the inspection requirements and thus the certification was denied. Watching her fly with such agility in the skies over California's worst fire was spectacular. Now we rely on the converted DC-10 and other aircraft locally stationed as well as those the state leases to cover the heaviest fire season months. Many may know that the state of California has almost reached a 365 day, full year-round fire season. 😮😮 the heavy rainfall we have received this year, 2024, thus far will definitely challenge out personnel and equipment to its maximum. Hope, pray, and keep positive thoughts that California and other states make it through the coming season.
Kalifornistan resident here. Slight correction. The governor (Gaping Screwsome) changed the inspection requirements so it would fail without millions of dollars in changes to the aircraft. I work at KMCC (McClellan Field) and toured the plane with the owner. He got shafted by the governor for speaking out against the complete lack of forest management in Kalifornia. So, that said we lost a much-needed firefighting asset that helped a lot of people. If you noticed or track aircraft like I do, the initial attacks now are instant from CDF and CalFire. The state is in red ink and can barely afford to pay them.
I believe two issues were that the operational cost of the 747 was significantly higher that that of the DC-10. Also as I understand it, the DC-10 was much more maneuverable at low altitudes and slow speeds than the 747.
@@phantomf4747 CalFire is the correct name. "CDF" is the old name for the same organization. The smaller CalFire tanker aircraft can take off and land on much shorter runways than the "Very Large Air Tankers", so they can be positioned at regional airports around the state (closer to fire scenes) that the Very Large Air Tankers cannot use. Also it was my understanding that the U.S. Forest Service and the FAA set the standards of air tankers.
According to a Wikipedia a CL-415 applied 162100 US gallons over a 4 hour period on a wildfire. I don’t know of any other aircraft that can deliver water at that rate.
They are good for quality and quantity of drops. Other planes drop more but they can't reload as fast. I think the Mars in the right situation can do amazing things but it rarely has a water source it can use easily. The Canadairs seem to be able to scoop almost anywhere
@@marklittle8805 The concept is gallons/ hour. Nothing comes close. Also there is no Martin Mars firefighter as they’ve been retired and withdrawn from service.
My fiance died in an air crash in 1979. He was a copilot. God bless all crew on these planes. There apparently is a new aircraft in the skies in Canada? I'm sorry I don't remember the name of the craft right now.
The DC10 is not gravity fed when filled. Gravity filling takes about 45 mins. Ask me how i know lmao Alsp the c130 is generally sitting at a capacity of 4000 gallons
The best ones are Canadair, with propellers for lower speeds, relatively huge wings and flaps for maneuverability and flying low in order to fly over all sorts of terrains with better precision and better autonomy without having to refuel (6h instead of 2h).
BE-200 -60 million -load capacity of 12 tons. -The conditions for the mission are an airfield of any type/any reservoir (sufficient for planting and taking off) for water intake (12 tons in 14 seconds). Boeing 747 Special -500 million -carrying capacity of 74 tons. -The conditions for the mission are only an airfield with a suitable runway (length, coating) + the availability of special equipment for refueling. Recently, the United States refused to buy BE-200 from Russia. Say hello to the Californians .
Turbo-fan aircraft can not slow down or maneuver to deliver water or retardant accurately. It does not matter how much can be carried if it does not drop where it needs to be. The USFS repurposing of old planes has been a disaster with several midair wing failures. The DHC-515 is the real purpose built super scooper that out preforms all other wildfire resources.
The comment that the Martin Mars started it's military service in 1959 isn't true. My father, Aviation Machinist Mate Chief George Horton, was the Flight Engineer on the Hawaii Mars when i was born in 1952, and stationed in Kalihi Lagoon , Honolulu, Hawaii. As there were only 6, the 7th burned in the cradle, the Hawaii was fitted with redundant engineering panels so as to provide on-the-job training for that position. When Coulson Aviation took her over, they switched out the 2nd panel for the fire controls.
If you arte going to comment on aircraft you should know the difference between a seaplane, a flying boat and an amphibian. A Seaplane has floats. An aircraft that lands on water using the fuselage is a FLYING BOAT, Like the Mars.
My family are firefighters in our days the fires are impossible to extinguish. Fir greece because we have a near sea access we use Canadair and helicopters Ericson. Still the fires don't stop
It depends of various things-speed of spread of fire and speed of plane approaching the fire,depends on the width-length of the fire front,of hight from which they water the fire,i think it also depends on the angle from which they can most effectively approach the fire,it also depends on the terrain-about slopes and ascents,it also depends about the visibility,about the wind,it depends on the part of the day,about the amount of the fuel within the plane,it depends on how close they are to a water source-if the water source is reasonable close to a fire be that see or a lake that way they can fight the fire much more effectively,,,bunch of things play a role in it,i am sure that i don't know a half of things which are important to do their job.However,in the end the most important are the pilots.I agree with those who think that CL-415 are the best.DHC-515 are also great firefighting planes.I live in a country where wildfires are frequent occurrences,i saw them numerous times in action.These are real dudes.I am not a professional firefighter,but i've helped firefighters in fighting fires at more than one occasion,so i've learned something by the way 😂May God protect our firefighters,those on the ground and those up in the air.🙏 🇭🇷
@svjetlangavranich3890 thank you. I've learned something new. Didn't appreciate how much factors ate there to consider when fighting fires. These guys in the planes are real heros .
The 747 has been grounded as a tanker, only one was built and it has been converted to freight carrying configuration. The only piece of info on the Martin Mars is that there were 7 built, it's the JRM Mars, not JMR. Four Mars were acquired to be converted to fire bombing in 1959, not 2 .
Like the BE-200 (think there's a BE-2000) I wonder if the Kremlin ever considered rewingng the IL-76 with top of wing engines and making lake skimming possible?
I think it is unlikely. The Il-76 was developed for airborne troops, and it has a number of design features due to which it cannot land on water. For example, under the bow at the bottom there is a glazing of the navigator's cockpit. It also has lower falling wings. If you rework all such moments, it will no longer be an Il 76, but a completely different aircraft.
Did you watch Flying Wild Alaska when they had a difficult flight to sell two Bombardier water bombers to Turkey however when one of the Turkish pilots came into land on a runway he did not have his wheels down Turkey hadn't yet paid for these aircraft and I don't know if they did Does anyone know what happened I'm not sure
The c-130 Hercules has also been fitted with a firefighting Water release system but the water comes out of the left side door rather than the back on the centre line unfortunately I have seen two of these aircraft break up as they release the water I can't help feeling this is because of the side release it's got a door on the back and should have released it on the centre line then I believe this should work RIP to the crews lost
@micstonemic696stone The C130 tankers that crashed were 45 years old, and had not been maintained in the way it was supposed to. All C130 water bombers have been banned from operating on BLM areas.
@@grahammonk8013 then that project using those aircraft shouldn't have done that especially after the first breakup old aircraft that fail their job well likely to have micro fractures and maybe worse I hear it is possible to keep a plane flying for as long as time is put in to insure parts get replaced when necessary
Altering older airframes to be used for a mission they were not designed for carries added risks. Cal Fire acquired some old C-130s but it's taken years to get them into a condition to be safely utilized as water tankers. IE, water is very heavy & it moves in the cargo bay unlike previous cargo loads. How much baffling can you afford before the weight ratio is such that it isn't worth carrying the modules?
@@dbyers3897 a water bomber must release the load along the central line of the aircraft Isaac Newton's Third Law also has an effect here and may just be the reason why 2 old Hercules broke up
You need to redo the Martin Mars, you have many things wrong and these aircraft have not been used for active fire fighting for years, they are both on their way to museums
No entiendo en las guerras hay montón de aviones combatiendo, y en California veo unos pocos aviones apagando los incendios dé los ciudadanos qué pagan sus impuestos día a día no entiendo.
And why does LA only have 2 of these? Just to make it look good that they were "trying" to help? And those planes need to fly AT A LOWER ALTITUDE, so that the fire retardant chemical isnt reduced into the atmosphere!
WAY too old. All of the 747s were retired several years ago. The Mars was retired because of the politics in British Columbia stopped them from using it. It's now permanently retired and has been transferred to a local museum.
It wasn't politics that retired them, it was the cost of operations. They were used in more places than just BC, and all of those places found other, less expensive aircraft to hire.
I think you missed the point with this aircraft. It can scoop & drop many more times per hour than larger airframes which must land to refill. Check out some newer versions: Viking CL-415EAF (Enhanced Aerial Firefighter) & DeHavilland Aircraft of Canada DHC-515 Firefighter
@@dbyers3897 I’m not questioning the usefulness. I’m unclear on the engineering. Just looking at the size of the wings and engines, I would have guessed that the CL 415 would carry 4 times the weight
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Very misleading video. The very large jet powered water tankers are next to useless. Imagine how many suitable lakes are available to them, the Mars air tankers were retired due to the assessment that only 7 lakes in British Columbia (massive cdn province) could handle their water pickup run.
There are far more than 7 lakes that they could pick up water from. Not sure where you got that info. They were retired because they were extremely old, and too expensive to operate.
Dam..another one that says kil-o-meters wrong! Kilo means 1000 & DOES NOT CHANGE!!! Why is it so hard to say AWE, AH in place of the "O" in the word KILO? Metre means distance. volts is Power Pressure, Watts is amount of Power, Gram is weight. Do You say kilawe in front of those last 3 words? Answer is NO!! Why just the ONE WORD? US, I'm sorry to say is teaching the World that We all have to change words.
narrator said boeing largest passenger plane in the world. REALLY now why is it I thought AIRBUS had that record. Hang on please wait there whilst I check. Hi im back. Yep Airbus A380 holds 853 people and Boeing 747-400 holds 416. I hate when narrators talk TURD.
Present day fire fighting aerial tankers is not impressive at all. To fight a fire that is in Southern California has to be fought with huge capacity air tankers not minuscule ones for small isolated fires. As Clara Keller used to say in her fast foods Wendy's hamburger commercials, where is the beef. On the same idea we must say in regards to the aerial tankers used to fight major scale fires, where's the beef. The following comment I recently put on the internet. When is humanity going to learn how to properly address the issue of fighting fires properly - effectively. It so obviously seems that our ability to prevent and control fires is archaic, and third world. Here we are in the first quarter of the 21st century and we still use old fashioned forms of trying to empty the ocean out with a spoon - metaphorically speaking. Have we not learned from the devastating effects of the catastrophic damage that fires can do from the past. Just as a reminder, 'The Paradise, California Fire,' on November, 2018 lasted a horrific 18 days; killed 85 people; injuries were probably three times that figure - not to mention post smoke inhalation and respiratory collateral effects; and, a whopping 18,800 buildings in the town destroyed - and that was an incredible, 7 years ago. Probably considered a century, by 1800 standards, since our technology and sophisticated infrastructure is - supposedly - so much more advanced. And, with the advent of the computer, taking us exponentially to greater heights. Mind you, the Paradise population, is about 1/3 of what it used to be. At that time, the raging fire moved at a clip of roughly 8,000 yards a minute - what has been described as 80 football fields in just 60 seconds. Fire amber's, as big as a foot in diameter, came falling down in a shower. And again, the fire lasted 18 days, just to reiterate. It was to become the worst fire in the history of California over the last 100 years. My question is, when are we going to learn how to effectively fight fires. We have to tackle this problem differently than we have in the past. How bout sending - as an example - the number of transport 'C - 5 Galaxy's, or, the 'Antonov An-225 Mriya,' - a Ukrainian model, with water or foam, or whatever, on a scale that parallels the paratroop operation to the Dutch city of 'Arnhem,' in 'Operation Market Garden,' during world War II. If we could do it then, we could certainly do it now. Check out the first half of the movie, 'A Bridge Too Far,' and see what it would be like. I'm sure such an event could produce a monsoon of rain to effectively douse an area the size of Chicago. Certainly a lot more effective than how we are doing it now, the scene in that movie, was epic, as the air drop, involved 1,500 transport aircraft. In this manner, planes could drop water immediately, and before the fire widens, and could fly precariously low, in spite of the fire's height, to drop their extinguishing material. They wouldn't have to drop it all at once, but rather, form like an air bucket brigade, from where they pick up the water; then, make a pass; and let the plane behind follow suit. This would come in a steady and consistent rain, so that it's volume is not a danger to the people below. Allowance for wind, will be an important influencing factor. The pilots would have to take into consideration the wind direction and their angle of attack, for the safest procedure on a single pass, that would be meant for all planes, that would become the corridor for all to follow. The operation's aim, would be for a more immediate outcome, rather than a protracted one. Check out this scene in the movie - it certainly is awe inspiring. Doug Obujen, has an 'Expert Local Guide Rating,' for movie and restaurant reviews and, has also addressed, some domestic and international
I have seen a lot of airshows in my day especially growing up near Travis AFB, but, no one puts on a better show than CALFIRE! The amount of firefighting capabilities of these people are amazing! I have been evacuated 3 times where I live now and all three times we were saved by CALFIRE and there air operations. They have only gotten better with the inclusion of the Firehawk helicopter!
Watching these planes in action is an amazing experience! These planes are real heroes!
I live in southern Oregon. Back in 2018 we had a bad wildfire season. Air quality steadily diminished over a three week period and several residents in our county passed away from respiratory issues. One day I heard a jet aircraft flying low and went outside in time to see an Il-76 tanker flying maybe 2000 ft overhead. Man those things are loud! Then it flew over again 20 minutes later and a third time after that. I heard that they were trying to get properly lined up with the spotter plane to make the drop. In any case, they did what they do, and the next day the smoke was 50% better, and within a week the fires were contained and the air was clear again.
That is a Russian aircraft! You are saying it was in operation in Oregon in 2018? I find that very hard to believe, thus I find YOU very hard to believe
He could be correct@@kendallevans4079
An Il-76 Russian-made plane acting as a water-bomber in U.S. airspace⁉ Not doubting you because they ARE used as tankers against wildfires. Just a little hard to believe that the U.S. government reached out to a company that might have them when there are PLENTY of ANG C-130's and SC-9's equipped for the task. Thank goodness you survived the fires.
Now they are equipped with much quieter engines.
Nothing came close to the mighty martin mars RIP😢
how old is this presentation? The Martin Mars; based in BC, Canada, were retired in 2015, so 10 years ago and now are museum pieces. There were only 2 in service at that time.
All these machines and their Pilots are really impressive.....such acute flying skills required to fly these huge Planes in zig zag fashion around the hills, and close to the ground - - Awesome !!!!
My brother worked on rivetting the skins of these these SuperScoopers. These planes are built in Quebec by Canadair. And you think we will get thanks from Trump for all what Canada is doing in helping with the fires.
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Explain the theme fairly well in 2 minutes
The Boeing Supertanker is not known as the "700 and 47", instead, it's known as the 747 Supertanker.
Those jet sea planes are the coolest.
You all may know that a few years ago, the 747 air bomber was taken out of service. The operators, if I remember correctly, could no longer afford to keep the giant flying, and the maintenance costs were too high. It did not pass the inspection requirements and thus the certification was denied. Watching her fly with such agility in the skies over California's worst fire was spectacular. Now we rely on the converted DC-10 and other aircraft locally stationed as well as those the state leases to cover the heaviest fire season months. Many may know that the state of California has almost reached a 365 day, full year-round fire season. 😮😮 the heavy rainfall we have received this year, 2024, thus far will definitely challenge out personnel and equipment to its maximum. Hope, pray, and keep positive thoughts that California and other states make it through the coming season.
You also want to understand that the 747's engine were a little too delicate. The don't like ingesting smoke.
Kalifornistan resident here. Slight correction. The governor (Gaping Screwsome) changed the inspection requirements so it would fail without millions of dollars in changes to the aircraft. I work at KMCC (McClellan Field) and toured the plane with the owner. He got shafted by the governor for speaking out against the complete lack of forest management in Kalifornia. So, that said we lost a much-needed firefighting asset that helped a lot of people. If you noticed or track aircraft like I do, the initial attacks now are instant from CDF and CalFire. The state is in red ink and can barely afford to pay them.
I believe two issues were that the operational cost of the 747 was significantly higher that that of the DC-10. Also as I understand it, the DC-10 was much more maneuverable at low altitudes and slow speeds than the 747.
@@phantomf4747 CalFire is the correct name. "CDF" is the old name for the same organization. The smaller CalFire tanker aircraft can take off and land on much shorter runways than the "Very Large Air Tankers", so they can be positioned at regional airports around the state (closer to fire scenes) that the Very Large Air Tankers cannot use. Also it was my understanding that the U.S. Forest Service and the FAA set the standards of air tankers.
@@phantomf4747Greasy Gavin NEWSOLINI the SHYSTER COMMIE CLOWN 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
I was not expecting to see Dusty Crophopper here. My boy went crazy.
Our fire boss works well sir, better then something else iykwim, but still, Fire Boss/Air Tractors are amazingly good at being versatile
❤GREST VIDEO THANK YOU
According to a Wikipedia a CL-415 applied 162100 US gallons over a 4 hour period on a wildfire. I don’t know of any other aircraft that can deliver water at that rate.
The rate depends on the proximity of the fire to a scoop-able water source. It is also a very agile aircraft allow for extremely low & slow drops.
@@dbyers3897 I know I flew them for 30 seasons before retiring.
They are good for quality and quantity of drops. Other planes drop more but they can't reload as fast. I think the Mars in the right situation can do amazing things but it rarely has a water source it can use easily. The Canadairs seem to be able to scoop almost anywhere
@@marklittle8805 The concept is gallons/ hour. Nothing comes close. Also there is no Martin Mars firefighter as they’ve been retired and withdrawn from service.
@@petermarsh5762 I knew the Martin was out of the game. Too much maintenance and logistics
My fiance died in an air crash in 1979. He was a copilot. God bless all crew on these planes. There apparently is a new aircraft in the skies in Canada? I'm sorry I don't remember the name of the craft right now.
Sorry to hear of Your loss and may GOD grant You Grace as You move forward in life.🙏🏽
also suitable for agriculture
Wow, these planes can milk cows as well!! That's impressive; i bet they can fly by and do an entire herd in seconds...!
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Beriev be-12, you for got, very god fire fither !
The Beriev BE200
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The Martin mars are now retired. Hawaii mars went to a museum in Canada and the Philippine mars went to the Pima air museum in arizona
The DC10 is not gravity fed when filled. Gravity filling takes about 45 mins. Ask me how i know lmao
Alsp the c130 is generally sitting at a capacity of 4000 gallons
The best ones are Canadair, with propellers for lower speeds, relatively huge wings and flaps for maneuverability and flying low in order to fly over all sorts of terrains with better precision and better autonomy without having to refuel (6h instead of 2h).
BE-200
-60 million
-load capacity of 12 tons.
-The conditions for the mission are an airfield of any type/any reservoir (sufficient for planting and taking off) for water intake (12 tons in 14 seconds).
Boeing 747 Special
-500 million
-carrying capacity of 74 tons.
-The conditions for the mission are only an airfield with a suitable runway (length, coating) + the availability of special equipment for refueling.
Recently, the United States refused to buy BE-200 from Russia.
Say hello to the Californians .
Turbo-fan aircraft can not slow down or maneuver to deliver water or retardant accurately. It does not matter how much can be carried if it does not drop where it needs to be. The USFS repurposing of old planes has been a disaster with several midair wing failures. The DHC-515 is the real purpose built super scooper that out preforms all other wildfire resources.
Meh for the money two AT 802 out perform the CL 415
How does the DHC-515 out perform all other wildfire resources, when they haven't even built one yet?
The comment that the Martin Mars started it's military service in 1959 isn't true. My father, Aviation Machinist Mate Chief George Horton, was the Flight Engineer on the Hawaii Mars when i was born in 1952, and stationed in Kalihi Lagoon , Honolulu, Hawaii. As there were only 6, the 7th burned in the cradle, the Hawaii was fitted with redundant engineering panels so as to provide on-the-job training for that position. When Coulson Aviation took her over, they switched out the 2nd panel for the fire controls.
it ended military service in 1959, and the model is JRM-3 not JM-170
Here after the LA fires..🔥
Priveteers, Neptunes have been retired. Well Done!
If you arte going to comment on aircraft you should know the difference between a seaplane, a flying boat and an amphibian. A Seaplane has floats. An aircraft that lands on water using the fuselage is a FLYING BOAT, Like the Mars.
My family are firefighters in our days the fires are impossible to extinguish. Fir greece because we have a near sea access we use Canadair and helicopters Ericson. Still the fires don't stop
IT IS NOT C-ONE HUNDRED 30 JUST PLAIN C-130
It is pronounced "seven forty seven"" not "seven hundred forty seven!"
once again NOT FOUR HUNDRED FIFTEEN just plain 415
The last of the Martin Mars aircraft were retired in 2024. After a service life of about 80 years.
Sometimes it looks like the jet dropping water is dropping it too high , is that hight still effective ? Anyone know?
It depends of various things-speed of spread of fire and speed of plane approaching the fire,depends on the width-length of the fire front,of hight from which they water the fire,i think it also depends on the angle from which they can most effectively approach the fire,it also depends on the terrain-about slopes and ascents,it also depends about the visibility,about the wind,it depends on the part of the day,about the amount of the fuel within the plane,it depends on how close they are to a water source-if the water source is reasonable close to a fire be that see or a lake that way they can fight the fire much more effectively,,,bunch of things play a role in it,i am sure that i don't know a half of things which are important to do their job.However,in the end the most important are the pilots.I agree with those who think that CL-415 are the best.DHC-515 are also great firefighting planes.I live in a country where wildfires are frequent occurrences,i saw them numerous times in action.These are real dudes.I am not a professional firefighter,but i've helped firefighters in fighting fires at more than one occasion,so i've learned something by the way 😂May God protect our firefighters,those on the ground and those up in the air.🙏 🇭🇷
@svjetlangavranich3890 thank you. I've learned something new. Didn't appreciate how much factors ate there to consider when fighting fires. These guys in the planes are real heros .
The 747 has been grounded as a tanker, only one was built and it has been converted to freight carrying configuration. The only piece of info on the Martin Mars is that there were 7 built, it's the JRM Mars, not JMR. Four Mars were acquired to be converted to fire bombing in 1959, not 2
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The Martin Mars Hawaii has just been decommissioned and moved to B.C. Aviation Museum in Greater Victoria, Canada last month.
700 and 47
What?
You talk aircraft numbers weird!
we need them now in california
Those pilots are the baddest mfs out there. So awesome
it is not seven hundred seven forty seven just plain 747
Where’s the 747 today? California needs you
It's there isn't it
14:07 huh. I’ve never seen blue water coming from one of these…what’s in it?
Like the BE-200 (think there's a BE-2000) I wonder if the Kremlin ever considered rewingng the IL-76 with top of wing engines and making lake skimming
possible?
I think it is unlikely. The Il-76 was developed for airborne troops, and it has a number of design features due to which it cannot land on water. For example, under the bow at the bottom there is a glazing of the navigator's cockpit. It also has lower falling wings. If you rework all such moments, it will no longer be an Il 76, but a completely different aircraft.
Did you watch Flying Wild Alaska when they had a difficult flight to sell two Bombardier water bombers to Turkey however when one of the Turkish pilots came into land on a runway he did not have his wheels down
Turkey hadn't yet paid for these aircraft and I don't know if they did
Does anyone know what happened I'm not sure
Ice Pilots NWT, not Flying Wild Alaska.
@@alco4248 my mistake I like watching this type of aviation documentary
during Vietnam the US dropped agent orange in large tankard aircraft. why not used those to fight the LA fire.
Imagine seeing your home almost get burned by fire then all of a sudden A water bomber saves it I would cry
why cant they make more water bombers like the B200
Simple, it's Russian built & they're a bit busy right now.
Doesn't get better than the AT-802 for me. it's like the A-10 of aerial firefighting
The c-130 Hercules has also been fitted with a firefighting Water release system but the water comes out of the left side door rather than the back on the centre line unfortunately I have seen two of these aircraft break up as they release the water
I can't help feeling this is because of the side release it's got a door on the back and should have released it on the centre line then I believe this should work RIP to the crews lost
@micstonemic696stone The C130 tankers that crashed were 45 years old, and had not been maintained in the way it was supposed to. All C130 water bombers have been banned from operating on BLM areas.
@@grahammonk8013 then that project using those aircraft shouldn't have done that especially after the first breakup old aircraft that fail their job well likely to have micro fractures and maybe worse I hear it is possible to keep a plane flying for as long as time is put in to insure parts get replaced when necessary
Altering older airframes to be used for a mission they were not designed for carries added risks. Cal Fire acquired some old C-130s but it's taken years to get them into a condition to be safely utilized as water tankers. IE, water is very heavy & it moves in the cargo bay unlike previous cargo loads. How much baffling can you afford before the weight ratio is such that it isn't worth carrying the modules?
@@dbyers3897 a water bomber must release the load along the central line of the aircraft Isaac Newton's Third Law also has an effect here and may just be the reason why 2 old Hercules broke up
Actually the 747 is not the largest passenger plane in the World, instead that title goes to the Airbus A-380 Superjumbo.
Thumbnail aircraft please
You need to redo the Martin Mars, you have many things wrong and these aircraft have not been used for active fire fighting for years, they are both on their way to museums
aqui no brasil tinha que ter esse tipo de combate a incendio
C-130’s are the best airplanes ever!!
No entiendo en las guerras hay montón de aviones combatiendo, y en California veo unos pocos aviones apagando los incendios dé los ciudadanos qué pagan sus impuestos día a día no entiendo.
And why does LA only have 2 of these? Just to make it look good that they were "trying" to help?
And those planes need to fly AT A LOWER ALTITUDE, so that the fire retardant chemical isnt reduced into the atmosphere!
The DC 10 tanker has a proven track record in both the United States and California.
last I heard, California is in the United States; just saying
Far too few aircraft available. WWII was won by a massive air fleet.. need the same for the fires.
That one. Going backwards
" 4 feet or 2 metres",... better re-check your conversion chart again,... more like 6 feet in 2 metres.
Cool . Why this plane it's landing and collecting water ,from the 🌊 I've heard that the impact of a plane in 🌊 it's fatal. 😮
It’s designed for it.
WAY too old. All of the 747s were retired several years ago. The Mars was retired because of the politics in British Columbia stopped them from using it. It's now permanently retired and has been transferred to a local museum.
It wasn't politics that retired them, it was the cost of operations. They were used in more places than just BC, and all of those places found other, less expensive aircraft to hire.
still impressive
bomb-ba-DEER
Bom bar dyay
Dear that's what he says
End fire
The CL415 holds 1800 gallons. The Air Tractor holds 800 gallons. Something seems wrong. The CL415 seems much, much, much larger and more powerful.
I think you missed the point with this aircraft. It can scoop & drop many more times per hour than larger airframes which must land to refill. Check out some newer versions: Viking CL-415EAF (Enhanced Aerial Firefighter) & DeHavilland Aircraft of Canada DHC-515 Firefighter
@@dbyers3897 I’m not questioning the usefulness. I’m unclear on the engineering. Just looking at the size of the wings and engines, I would have guessed that the CL 415 would carry 4 times the weight
@@OhNoNotAgain42 Its a heavy plane. Large airframe. The 802 punches way above its weight.
If I had the money to buy any of these planes I would by the air tractor
Each aircraft has its strengths and weaknesses. The reality is that a mix of aircraft is what works best.
انتقاد الحرائق في امريكا يعني معادة ل السامية
ل الحرائق الحق في الدفاع عن نفسها ولها الحق في الوجود
اعلن تضامني ودعمي الكامل بكل اشكالة ل الحرائق واتمنى لها المزيد من التقدم والازدهار ل تصبح امريكا كما اصبحت غزة #حرائق_كالفورنيا
#حرائق_أمريكا
#حرائق_لوس_أنجلوس
#حرب_غزة
Oh, and it's *NOT* "Bereave", it's pronounced "BERRY-EV".
Boeing Seven Hundred Forty Seven 😂😂😂
I believe the narrator is Irish & their English pronunciations are a bit different. No problem.
please drop the metric conversions
Very misleading video. The very large jet powered water tankers are next to useless. Imagine how many suitable lakes are available to them, the Mars air tankers were retired due to the assessment that only 7 lakes in British Columbia (massive cdn province) could handle their water pickup run.
There are far more than 7 lakes that they could pick up water from. Not sure where you got that info. They were retired because they were extremely old, and too expensive to operate.
My friend my grandfather use to fly those big air tankers your info is wrong
il 76 beast
The "ill seventysix?" Hope it gets better soon.
I stopped watching as soon as I heard 700 & 47 ! 🤦🏻♂️
And "Bomba-deer" instead of Bomb-bar-dee-a
Boo hoo
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It was actually a good documentary
Don’t winge if your house was in danger you wouldn’t care wat it was
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Miss pronouncing "Bombardier" makes you lose ALL credibility!
Dam..another one that says kil-o-meters wrong! Kilo means 1000 & DOES NOT CHANGE!!! Why is it so hard to say AWE, AH in place of the "O" in the word KILO? Metre means distance. volts is Power Pressure, Watts is amount of Power, Gram is weight. Do You say kilawe in front of those last 3 words? Answer is NO!! Why just the ONE WORD? US, I'm sorry to say is teaching the World that We all have to change words.
GABRIEL
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Escape this city
Who writes this crap?
That's not a living breathing narrator
Yeah but it's quite a high quality narrator. So who cares 🤷🏻♂️
lear how to properly pronounce not Ilusheen but ilushin
Что это красный?
Tập trung cho rạp nữa rung nuoc Mỹ va the gio vao cuoc ngay
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narrator said boeing largest passenger plane in the world. REALLY now why is it I thought AIRBUS had that record. Hang on please wait there whilst I check. Hi im back. Yep Airbus A380 holds 853 people and Boeing 747-400 holds 416. I hate when narrators talk TURD.
In Brazil, the Amazon catches fire and does not have an aircraft to fight the fire 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
I stopped watching as soon as I heard 700 and forty seven
Present day fire fighting aerial tankers is not impressive at all. To fight a fire that is in Southern California has to be fought with huge capacity air tankers not minuscule ones for small isolated fires.
As Clara Keller used to say in her fast foods Wendy's hamburger commercials, where is the beef.
On the same idea we must say in regards to the aerial tankers used to fight major scale fires, where's the beef.
The following comment I recently put on the internet.
When is humanity going to learn how to properly address the issue of fighting fires properly - effectively. It so obviously seems that our ability to prevent and control fires is archaic, and third world. Here we are in the first quarter of the 21st century and we still use old fashioned forms of trying to empty the ocean out with a spoon - metaphorically speaking. Have we not learned from the devastating effects of the catastrophic damage that fires can do from the past. Just as a reminder, 'The Paradise, California Fire,' on November, 2018 lasted a horrific 18 days; killed 85 people; injuries were probably three times that figure - not to mention post smoke inhalation and respiratory collateral effects; and, a whopping 18,800 buildings in the town destroyed - and that was an incredible, 7 years ago. Probably considered a century, by 1800 standards, since our technology and sophisticated infrastructure is - supposedly - so much more advanced. And, with the advent of the computer, taking us exponentially to greater heights. Mind you, the Paradise population, is about 1/3 of what it used to be. At that time, the raging fire moved at a clip of roughly 8,000 yards a minute - what has been described as 80 football fields in just 60 seconds. Fire amber's, as big as a foot in diameter, came falling down in a shower. And again, the fire lasted 18 days, just to reiterate. It was to become the worst fire in the history of California over the last 100 years.
My question is, when are we going to learn how to effectively fight fires. We have to tackle this problem differently than we have in the past. How bout sending - as an example - the number of transport 'C - 5 Galaxy's, or, the 'Antonov An-225 Mriya,' - a Ukrainian model, with water or foam, or whatever, on a scale that parallels the paratroop operation to the Dutch city of 'Arnhem,' in 'Operation Market
Garden,' during world War II. If we could do it then, we could certainly do it now. Check out the first half of the movie, 'A Bridge Too Far,' and see what it would be like. I'm sure such an event could produce a monsoon of rain to effectively douse an area the size of Chicago. Certainly a lot more effective than how we are doing it now, the scene in that movie, was epic, as the air drop, involved 1,500 transport aircraft.
In this manner, planes could drop water immediately, and before the fire widens, and could fly precariously low, in spite of the fire's height, to drop their extinguishing material. They wouldn't have to drop it all at once, but rather, form like an air bucket brigade, from where they pick up the water; then, make a pass; and let the plane behind follow suit. This would come in a steady and consistent rain, so that it's volume is not a danger to the people below. Allowance for wind, will be an important influencing factor. The pilots would have to take into consideration the wind direction and their angle of attack, for the safest procedure on a single pass, that would be meant for all planes, that would become the corridor for all to follow. The operation's aim, would be for a more immediate outcome, rather than a protracted one. Check out this scene in the movie - it certainly is awe inspiring.
Doug Obujen,
has an 'Expert Local Guide Rating,' for movie and restaurant reviews and, has also addressed, some domestic and international
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Lol no one calls it the "7 hundred forty seven" you Bozzo
Made in Russia?
Yeah. Right.
The mispronounced manufacturer names are appalling.
God I hate that word hero’s.
Get the names of the planes correct
Then way don't thay use them. Live in CA. THAT SHIT DONT HAPPEN.
You’ve shown that cartoon drop like 5x in 2min. I’m out.
That was just the first plane being reviewed.
So innacurate... find another job
SuperScoopers from Quebec are helping in the battling of the fires. Do you think Trump will say thank you. Na lets impose Canada 25% tariffs.
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