@@khaii1955 ye ik, but eren is still controlling zeke and you can see in one moment where he is like "zeke lets go to the next memory" and that's the memory where grisha kills the reiss. so I mean they are right, I just think u misunderstood
Zeke thought he could convince Eren into believing him by showing him a slideshow presentation of Eren’s memories, but he just walked into Eren’s slideshow presentation instead
“Our only choice is to perish for our sins” Eren’s rage at hearing such a statement, utterly framing the King’s ideology, is entirely justifiable. After all the death and suffering he’s seen, caused, will see and will cause- someone tells his father that because of a past so remote no one was even allowed to remember it every one of their race should be slaughtered like sheep. Eren’s anger and drive for freedom has always had its roots in how he resented humanity being forced to cower like cattle behind the walls, at the complete and total mercy of the force outside them. And finally, when someone has the power to end that threat forever, they meekly lay down and preach of repaying ancient sins. Between Frieda and Zeke, it’s a wonder Eren had any restraint left at all.
I couldn’t have said it better myself. So many people write off Eren as some psychotic lunatic, but fail to understand that he is not someone who will tolerate anyone trying to take away the freedom to live life on his own terms. Now throw him into a situation where the entire world hates his people, and everyone who had the power to change things were either crippled by pacifism, self-loathing, or simple weakness and the resulting monster is inevitable.
Technically he’s mad at everybody in this scene and through freida he is mad at fritz. They all are taking away the eldians right to freedom so he just mad at everybody.
@@superyahci5339 Why would he? Freida is also a victim. What she is doing is outside of her choice. She can't help him because the king of the wall is forcing her. She is not free either. Her freedom is taken away as is the freedom of the other Eldians.
@@runokati3668 you mean only a select group of Eldians killed millions over the course of many years. If the previous King tried making up the sins of his ancestors and used a different vow to change things it’ll would’ve been different. But no, the dumbass tried to play god by judging innocents and damning future generations. His vow didn’t even stop war.
@@Kokuori exactely, the king could have just killed all eldians, all non eldians, but instead choose a way that will just keep people sad all around I dont get that guy.
Kinda terrifying that Erens rage is so immense that grisha, who can’t even see eren, glances over because he can feel the hate and rage from erens memories alone. A small little detail, but one that when noticed makes it insanely clever and terrifying at the same time
The best part of it is that because of the Attack Titan's ability, Grisha can see Eren's memories, and feel what Eren feels. He knows Eren is looking at him and he knows Eren is pissed.
@@lul22224 Grisha cannot. He can only see what Eren's eyes see. Thats why when he talks to Zeke, you see Eren in the foreground looking at Zeke. When Eren turns away, or isn't looking at Zeke, he doesn't see him. Same with when it was Eren standing in front of him, he wasn't able to see Eren but felt his presence / saw himself from Eren's POV. Eren in the doorway looking at Grisha just shows Grisha himself. He can feel what Eren feels though.
@@EnclosedPoolAreaThey still held authority and ruled the Walls. The decision-making was left to the government, yes, but they still had to sanction some important things
@@Yedolf-0638 There was a scene in season 3 where she was shown to be mentally tormented. His father and uncle also protested to their parent that he should use the power of the founder to liberate the Eldians of the walls from the titans. They even got incarcerated. So, in a way all of them had the desire to help their people, but in the end they submitted to the Founder's ideals and charisma.
The fact that for a moment Frieda was somewhat empathetic to Grisha's request, but was sadly short-lived due to Karl Fritz coming to proclaim the good ol' vow, hence why Frieda's eyes turn violet blue. Eren is not mad at Frieda herself, he's mad at the man behind her eyes (Karl Fritz) that doomed the Eldians freedom and livelihoods, a big red flag in Eren's core values.
@@spookytown7963 all three sides are for genocide on their own way. Eren uses the Titans to murder everyone but Eldians. Zeke has eldians and Titans slowly wiped out of existence. And Marley continues to use Eldians as cattle to rule the world with Titans.
Frieda with blue eyes: her normal self Frieda with purple eyes: karl fritz control Poor Frieda, she was victim and actually wanted to save the innocents lifes
@@ucchiharaanishime2388 cause they are weak and unable to resist the king. How can 1 king who easnt even the original have so much control even still. Answer is they are not like eren. Ultimately they give up even trying to fight it. I believe if eren had the royal blood and founding he could have broken the curse himself
"I am not in danger, Skyl- I mean Zeke. I am the danger. A guy opens his door and gets brainwashed and you think that of me? No. I am the one who brainwashes!" -Erin
You know why I didn't accept your plan? Because it's too small! I don't care about it! It's nothing to me! It's a bacterium! I travel in worlds you can't even imagine! You can't conceive of what I'm capable of! I'm so far beyond you! I'm like a god in human clothing! Lighting bolts shoot from my fingertips!
@@reflex9216 hes just speaking to the past through the power of the attack titan. grisha sees erens future memorys of this exact moment when it is happening so its like a live video in grishas head
Frieda is a hostage of the King's will, Grisha is being manipulated by his own son from the future. I don't who I pity the most, because is clear neither of this two wanted a bloodbath but this whole thing is beyond their control. Their are just tools for the wills of people who are not even there anymore/yet. What a sadistic situation.
Frieda doesn't have free Will, Grisha does. All Eren did was strengthen Grisha's resolve to go ahead with his plan. Grisha met with Fireda with the intention to take the Founding Titan, he just had second thoughts because he doesn't want to kill children.
I would’ve loved if we had a shadow behind Frieda of king Fritz looking happy at what Frieda is saying to be the contrary to Eren’s rage. I woulda nut in my pants at that shit
@@yayyoy1536 If she could use the founder full power it wouldn't be a fight but a massacre but if she coudn't, probably they would lose because the Colossal Titan is too powerful and Reinner was very strong when his mind was determined.
@@Harryboy-hbg Still... Not everything, he ensured that in this time-line, everything had to happen to ensure the plain, idk if we are going to know when exactly this direct past - present- future interaction between father and son actually started...
@@uglee7675 nah only royal family members have pure blood others like eren are only half eldian You think three daughters can give birth to all these people
@@AsuraVGC Eldians were a tribe, the royal family were just the rulers of said tribe and the other families which were given the 9 titans became the aristocracy. Think of them as say the Goths or Visigoths and modern day Eldians as Germans.
Many seem to have forgotten that the vow renouncing war meant Frieda had no choice but to not use the founding titan to protect the people of the walls. Her, Uri Reiss and all the previous founding titans since Fritz all had no control over it sadly.
Not weak. Selfish. He was tired of war and wanted to make a Paradise, but truly only for himself. In the meantime not caring about his people across the sea or the generations in the walls that suffered because of an element very much in his control. In the end if the First King truly wanted to make things right, he shouldn't of condemned the rest of his bloodline to be tormented by what he wanted to do.
@@Kameraspie it’s not bullshit. Just like some people are physically and/or mentally stronger than others. King Fritz will is strong enough to the point that none of his successors have been able to break free from his vow to renounce war
I can only emphasize again and again that, especially as a German, it is extremely fascinating but also sad at the same time how Mr. Isayama deals with the topic of guilt for the sins of the ancestors. Growing up in a peaceful world but always being told subliminally that you shoulder the sins of the National Socialists is an extremely oppressive feeling for a child. I wish that future generations will no longer have to do that. And bow in awe to Mr. Isayama for addressing this issue with Attack on Titan.
The results of first world war are the reason why the second war was unavoidable. The like said "winners" humiliated so much the german people, It was a matter of time when they will revenge themselves. Germans havent to feel guilty, I feel pitty for the idiots who does it.
im german too. the point is that its our duty that something like this can never happen again. just because a lot of changed, doesnt mean it cant happen again. its true that its not our fault what they did in the past. but we cant ignore our past either. It's really important that our past is not forgotten. I don't know if we should feel guilty or not. but it is our responsibility that something like this can never happen again and that includes not forgetting the crimes of our ancestors. we have to keep this in mind so that we don't move in this direction ever again
There is a healthy balance to it. You obviously don't want to take Japan's route of denying any of the warcrimes they committed in China. Even to the present day. Since people won't forgive until they ask for it. But I agree, for nations that have made an honest effort to atone, future generations shouldn't feel guilty. But memes on WWII will never die. Don't expect that to change. If memes or jokes are considered extremely oppressive then IDK how you survive IRL. There are MUCH worse things to grow up with than jokes or guilt tripping about what your nation did in the past.
Oooh so Fritz was talking in her place at that moment? about the ‘power falling into the wrong hands again’ and eren got so mad because he realised that even the founding titan didnt have true freedom, thats why he wants to eliminate the vow to renounce war
yep, and not just the founding titan. the first king was restricting the freedom of EVERYONE, whether inside the walls or outside. if you were an eldian, you were being persecuted in some way or form due to the first king and his "pacifistic approach"
Karl Fritz’s vow to renounce war achieved nothing but torment Eldians, whether they’re in Paradis, in Marley or anywhere else in the world. Genocidal war against the other nations didn’t stop after he and the Tyburs sabotaged the Eldian Empire, it just switched to the Marleyan Empire, which was abusing Eldians and their titan powers, making the world hate them even more. If Fritz wanted to make amends for his crimes and the crimes of his ancestors he should’ve gone with Zeke’s idea in the first place, his purpose was simply to punish his own people’s future generations for crimes they didn’t commit(also having all the Eldians on Paradis never know what they’re being punished for). Karl Fritz was the most evil of all Eldian Kings.
Sins of the father, such a bullshit fallacy. Condemning people that never once did anything that their ancestors did who we're the real guilty ones. Which goes to show currently their is no one to blame anymore that this point. Only the ones that have done "their own bullshit" in todays time.
@@Kittiesftw Atoning for "their" sins my a*$, he was just an idiot. Bitch had the ability either to save his people or to just end them so future generations wouldn't suffer. What he did, took a few of them with him built walls, and brainwashed them and left the rest to suffer🤣🤣🤣Like just how, how can one have such an idiotic plan, literally anything would have been better
1:18 Since eren is the last attack titan. That must mean that all past attack titan wielders were seeing eren's future memory. Weird how they kept moving forward because of a unborn person's memory.
As zeke tells eren about how greisha treated him and about his plan to save eldia, greisha gets to know about zeke's feelings as well through eren's memories which is why greisha condemns himself so much because of not treating zeke in a better way. Damn....AOT is really one of a masterpiece of a tragic anime. Tragedy through and through.
Zeke: *traps Eren "Surprise! I had a feeling you were lying to me." Eren: "ohoho you got me good. Definitely didn't see that coming at all. Not one bit, totally caught off guard." Zeke: *squints eyes
@@Kittiesftw Yea kid she Could be Like zeke and do want she needs.... Stop trying to look gansta talking about anime the facts are in manga and here. Son. she was weak.
Karl Fritz is the true villain, he could have done better but his own selfish desire to feel good about himself brought a lot of pain and suffering from innocent people who didn't do anything wrong.
@@weirdhuh8046 He could have done the same thing Eren did without the Rumbling. Marley wasn't strong enough at that time so at least Eldians had a fighting chance.
Fucking love Eren so much. He is what humans should strive to have as their ideals. Protect all, harm none, unless those mfs want to kill you, then go ALL out. So refreshing
This scene is tragic all the way around across the board We have Grisha being forced to kill innocent children all the while being reminded of the pain he tried to forget from his past…..by his own son no less. We have Frieda who has been burdened to allow her fellow Eldians to die for the “sins” of her ancestors. And when Grisha breaksdown in front her, she is instantly by her family including her spineless father to kill him. Meanwhile she truly wants nobody to die. Then we have Eren having to listen to Frieda justify why allowing the citizens of the walls including his friends and family to die. And Zeke now realising the type of person Eren truly is.
@@adrianacabrera838 based on a video I’ve watch about Eren (I can send it if you want) I think he’s somewhat of a sociopath. While yes you could he does the things he does for his friend which I understand…but he didn’t activate the rumbling because he needed to. But because he wanted to
But if he didn't activate the rumbling most of the world would attack paradis. I believe he did it because there was literally no other way . I believe that any other route would have caused mikass or Armin or maybe both to die. Although he cared about his race as a whole he wanted to protect those 2 the most on top of the desire for freedom. He had to become the villain in order to truly be free and save his loved ones by breaking the titan curse and the rumbling basically made sure that other races/countries wouldn't try to retaliate. But yes send the video I would love to watch it.
He's not exactly mad at Frieda, but I can't blame him. If I got told that my ass had to die for some shit that happened hundreds of years ago, shit that ain't got shit to do with me I'd be pissed too.
Don’t forget about the king spouting off atone for our sins bs but the king and his descendants they all get to live cushy lives while the rest of the Eldians suffer.
@@oliverallen2565 Sins and atrocities that his family ordered. The Fritz had control over all the Titans, so it's not like those Titans were killing people on their own free will.
@@megamanbrandonMeet the modern day white person/European descendant being blamed for past atrocities such as colonialism,slavery,racism,genocide,imperialism,conquest etc (Which was done by all races and nations but Europeans just did it on a larger scale and only seem to get the blame)
call me a yeagerist but i think this is completely justified from Eren… Freida and the Reiss family had been completely brainwashed (we can see this when Freida’s eyes suddenly change and she becomes robot-like) and Eren is completely aware of this. This wasn’t an act of violent savagery from Eren, this was calculated and a fight for the freedom of his people. The Reiss family would have gladly let all Eldians be massacred by Marleyans due to the fault of Eldian’s from hundreds of years ago who no one even knew?? Imagine if IRL we massacred people due to the mistakes (no matter how horrible) of our ancestors that we never have even met. Eren is not a villain in my eyes… he’s just a tragic protagonist.
Quite literally all of the members of the Reiss family wanted the founder to take down the titans. The only problem was the founder himself and herself. For the longest time, Eren was under the assumption that Grisha killed the founder at the literal worst time that is when the Colossal titan attacked which prevented the founder from protecting the walls and thus saving her people. This was why he felt guilty for what Grisha did along with the fact that he slaughtered children (something incomprehensible to pre-Historia hand kissing Eren). But then, Eren saw the truth. Even while being forced to confront the situation which required mitigation of and control over the titans to simply go outside the walls and fix the walls again, Karl Fritz avoided doing anything and only used this unfortunate incident as an excuse for Eldians to finally suffer for the sins of their ancestors.
Zeke: I will free you of our fathers manipulation Eren: what makes you think he manipulated me Zeke: what does that mea- Eren: my goals are beyond your comprehension dear brother
When u realize that the first attack titan shifter already knew what was going to happen hundreds years ahead and let it happen or make it happen and then u think about it that there must be a strong reason behind that, but the last attack titan shifter is still don't know what happen in the past and have to kinda find out and still doing what he wants that the point where ur jaw starting to get hurt ,damn I had so much in my mind after watching this episode and this episode is truly a jaw dropping from the beginning till the end. And the only anime watchers like me knowing this without getting spoiler damn it's just a truly happiness:).
Fritz talks about how they must not run from their sins and pay, but when he renounced war, he didn't offer himself to be punished. He escaped to the island and used the rumbling as a bluff to be able to live the rest of his days in peace. He sacrificed future innocent generations to feel good about himself, without being willing to sacrifice himself for his supposed ideals. Of course Eren was furious.
You can hear Erens blood boiling in this scene. In my opinion Eren and Grisha did everyone in the walls a favor by killing her and taking the power of the founder. The philosophy and thinking of the reiss family is insane. Because of all the shit that went down in history even in the great titan war, they believe the sins of eldia could never be repaid. That type of thinking is dangerous and is connected to real world shit. Some people believe because of the horrible shit their ancestors did in the past they think they should be punished for their sins as well. That is insane. No child deserves to be punished for the sins of any parent at all.
It’s sad that Frieda was trying to fight the Vow Renouncing War until the Founder’s power activated and her whole demeanor changed. I never noticed that in the manga
"I really may have said that our people of paradis should suffer for their sins, but the truth is that I never wanted that to happen to them, I wanted to help them, because in fact they don't know what is happening. I never wanted this for anyone." Frieda Reiss
To people wondering how Eren made contact with Grisha: - Grisha basically saw FUTURE Eren's memories (which is the Eren we will see later on in the series) through CURRENT Eren's eyes (which is the Eren in this episode watching Grisha's memories) - Basically Grisha saw himself through CURRENT Eren's POV/Eyes that's why he could tell Zeke was there because Eren could see Zeke. And that's why he knows Eren is there because he is watching himself through Eren's eyes. - To make it simpler: Grisha - Future Eren's Memories (through Current Eren's eyes) - and then back to Grisha - Grisha saw FUTURE Eren's memories which is the CURRENT Eren watching his fathers memories. Eren kissing historia's hand: - Eren basically saw FUTURE Eren's plan through Grisha's Memories. Basically Grisha saw FUTURE Eren's plan and since CURRENT Eren can access Grisha's memories seeing the FUTURE Eren's plan, then he could basically see the future. - To make it simpler: Grisha saw FUTURE Eren's Memories - CURRENT/PAST Eren (When he kissed Historia) saw Grisha seeing FUTURE Eren's Memories. It's a litte bit confusing but all in all they basically just see each others memories seeing each others memories -by @kamon
There is till something missing tho, like how the fuck grisha can hug zeke when zeke isn't there (spectator/ghost). Looks like isayama ain't smart enough?
His rage wasn't at Frieda, but at Fritz. Fritz damned them all to death, and had the nerve, the fucking gall to force them to wax political about? To force his people to wrongly believe that they should be slaughtered for the sins of a past over 2000 years ago? Yeah, I'd be fucking enraged too.
Although I never agreed with Eren's choices, I understand why he got so mad here. Eren just saw someone claim that the entire Eldian population should perish just because of their ancestors mistakes. A population of people that have never committed the atrocities that their ancestors committed. Apparently according to this woman, we should all atone for someone else's mistakes. This is basically the equivalent of some woke white woman saying that all white people should die because of the atrocities their ancestors committed.
It's not Frieda's real opinion but she just says what the curse of the king forces her to say. Look at her purple eyes. Notice she was visibly struggling before she responded. This is not her free will.
Turned 360 means he is facing the same way as before. And you're accidentally right. Not wanting to die like in the ending is the same reason as why he was angry here.
"I really may have said that our people of paradis should suffer for their sins, but the truth is that I never wanted that to happen to them, I wanted to help them, because in fact they don't know what is happening. I never wanted this for anyone." Frieda Reiss
It’s a beautiful parallel. A titan shifter who’s blessed/cursed with the knowledge of the past and is a slave to the will of her predecessor, confronted by a titan shifter who’s blessed/cursed with the knowledge of the future and is a slave to the will of his successor.
Love how Zeke looks to Eren and is in awe at how much anger resides in Eren because of the king's ideology to just lay down and die because it's to repent their "sin". Even Grisha can feel how much anger Eren is letting out. It gives me the chills everytime I read it in the manga.
Imagine realizing that because of some coward king your whole nation is forced to accept annihilation... wouldn't you want to stand against it? The biggest enemy of this whole series is not a person but the Titan power in itself. Humans are just flawed and shitty in general but when they get incredible power in their hands, this is where real hell starts to happen.
@@erenyeager6668 He is a coward alright. Even if its true that the Titan civilisation massacered and misused their powers to end people, his decision was legit half assed and completely hypocritic. The king himself wanted to atone to what his own ancestors did and to stop that from happening he enclosed his people and took away everyones memories to live a world called paradise. How did that help? Years later soldiers and people were in a risk of getting eaten by titans just to get close to the truth the king wanted to keep away from them. It didnt help. Rather his actions escalated and fed more hatred to the other countries who were still not at peace with Eldia even existing. If the king genuinely wanted to atone for his sins he would just killed himself and took his entire nation down with him to end the cycle of hatred. But he didnt. He had no courage to do that. He is a coward for fleeing and leaving his people behind in other nations. He is a hypocrite for making the present Eldians pay for the mistakes which only their ancestors did. And thus, a monster like Eren was born.
The King isn't a coward but a staunch Pacifist and believer in "Sins of the Father". "The biggest enemy of this whole series is not a person but the Titan power in itself. Humans are just flawed and shitty in general but when they get incredible power in their hands, this is where real hell starts to happen." You are kinda argeeing with First King controlled Frieda here.
Something I’ve always liked about the style is how the angrier a character is, the more line shading their eyes get. With Ymir, you could never even see her eyes until she was set free by Eren, and in the paths, both of them had completely missing eyes.
I can empathize what eren was feeling. King fritz became a spineless coward who walked out on his people when they all needed him to protect them. Even worse he wanted to punish the descendants for things that weren’t in their control. I agree with Krueger a king who won’t protect his people is no king.
Not to mention that the sins he believes that the Eldians should atone for were ordered by his family. And yet both he and his family hid in Paradis and behind the walls, while his subjects had to suffer centuries of persecution.
Frieda: It's time for our people to be punished by their sins Also Frieda and her cowardly family: Hiding behind the most inner wall like a b*tch while their people are suffering
Technically, it wasn't Frieda talking. It was the First King of the Wall. But yeah, the Fritz/Reiss family were behind all the horrors the Eldians commited, and yet they never had to suffer for that. They fled to Paradis and created the walls to prevent the rest of the world from coming, and erased the memories of everyone from Paradis to ensure no one knew what they did.
You guys gotta understand, the thing that makes this scene special, is the fact Eren has seen it before. He has witnessed the words once, yet they still anger him like he's hearing such nonsense for the first time.
The will of a past king and a future rebel clash against each other, thus, harming those who wish for peace in the present. Very poetic imagery of how truth and idealism influence our very reality.
@@oliverallen2565 well, exceptions exist in every age. But at this very moment, Grisha and Frieda each just wanted peaceful families, as suggested by their hesitation for conflict.
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Eren Yeager
What is the name of the soundtrack at 1:34 :o?
what's the opening in the first few seconds
No. Don’t tell me what to do. I’m the only one afterall
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Eren basically in this episode was like: Lemme show yall who the real writer of the show is.
Attack Titan powers babyyyyyy
Tell him he could’ve been much better
@@Axel-ye8tt 🤡
@@instaz0908 nah nah he right
@@mymanjohan5101 okay🤡
Zeke: You’ve beaten me at my own game.
Eren: Don’t flatter yourself. You were never even a player.
Azula
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"the moment you joined this game you ensured my victory"
Eren to Zeke, probably
I'm so glad Azula's influence is still strong 😈
I see your a person of culture as well
Eren basically played Uno reverse card in every aspect
Hes the smartest person in aot
Walter White: "I AM THE DANGER."
Eren Jaeger: "I AM THE UNO REVERSE CARD."
Basically 😂😂 Zeke was like hold up what
He uno reversed the uno reverse
@@unfittedwings yup Xd
I love how zeke thinks he's taking eren down memory lane, when in reality erens walking him through how it's really gonna go
This is 4D chess
@@MattGarcyaDC dam u right
@@NakatesX well not really, bc eren cant control zekes will to end the headbutt like the last scene in this episode so
@@khaii1955 ye ik, but eren is still controlling zeke and you can see in one moment where he is like "zeke lets go to the next memory" and that's the memory where grisha kills the reiss. so I mean they are right, I just think u misunderstood
“Memory lane” lmao
Zeke thought he could convince Eren into believing him by showing him a slideshow presentation of Eren’s memories, but he just walked into Eren’s slideshow presentation instead
Lol
I can imagine Eren showing his memories in a PowerPoint slideshow presentation to Zeke in a school facility 💀💀
Zeke at school: I seem to have misinterpreted the assignment.
Zeke showed his presentation to show off so that Eren could understand it but Eren meddled and edited it in the worst way possible and hit save button
Forget a violin, Zeke got played like the entire strings section of Trans-Siberia 😆
“Our only choice is to perish for our sins”
Eren’s rage at hearing such a statement, utterly framing the King’s ideology, is entirely justifiable. After all the death and suffering he’s seen, caused, will see and will cause- someone tells his father that because of a past so remote no one was even allowed to remember it every one of their race should be slaughtered like sheep.
Eren’s anger and drive for freedom has always had its roots in how he resented humanity being forced to cower like cattle behind the walls, at the complete and total mercy of the force outside them. And finally, when someone has the power to end that threat forever, they meekly lay down and preach of repaying ancient sins.
Between Frieda and Zeke, it’s a wonder Eren had any restraint left at all.
I wish I could pin your comment, nobody is talking about what Frieda said, and that is the reason why Erens face look like that, power angry...
I couldn’t have said it better myself. So many people write off Eren as some psychotic lunatic, but fail to understand that he is not someone who will tolerate anyone trying to take away the freedom to live life on his own terms.
Now throw him into a situation where the entire world hates his people, and everyone who had the power to change things were either crippled by pacifism, self-loathing, or simple weakness and the resulting monster is inevitable.
Please remember this Eren and compare him to the Mikasa simp Eren in the future.
@@clintmaryann9142 you can't have multiple emotion? Sad peeps
@@clintmaryann9142 People are complex. There's no one single facet to one's personality.
He's not exactly mad at Frieda but at Fritz for his vow to renounce war which doomed his people
Technically he’s mad at everybody in this scene and through freida he is mad at fritz. They all are taking away the eldians right to freedom so he just mad at everybody.
@@superyahci5339
Why would he? Freida is also a victim. What she is doing is outside of her choice. She can't help him because the king of the wall is forcing her. She is not free either. Her freedom is taken away as is the freedom of the other Eldians.
@@izzypzy8716 Its not wrong. Eldians really killed millions of people with titans.
@@runokati3668 you mean only a select group of Eldians killed millions over the course of many years. If the previous King tried making up the sins of his ancestors and used a different vow to change things it’ll would’ve been different. But no, the dumbass tried to play god by judging innocents and damning future generations. His vow didn’t even stop war.
@@Kokuori exactely, the king could have just killed all eldians, all non eldians, but instead choose a way that will just keep people sad all around I dont get that guy.
Kinda terrifying that Erens rage is so immense that grisha, who can’t even see eren, glances over because he can feel the hate and rage from erens memories alone. A small little detail, but one that when noticed makes it insanely clever and terrifying at the same time
True I noticed as well
The best part of it is that because of the Attack Titan's ability, Grisha can see Eren's memories, and feel what Eren feels. He knows Eren is looking at him and he knows Eren is pissed.
I'm pretty sure he can see them
@@lul22224 Grisha cannot. He can only see what Eren's eyes see. Thats why when he talks to Zeke, you see Eren in the foreground looking at Zeke. When Eren turns away, or isn't looking at Zeke, he doesn't see him. Same with when it was Eren standing in front of him, he wasn't able to see Eren but felt his presence / saw himself from Eren's POV. Eren in the doorway looking at Grisha just shows Grisha himself. He can feel what Eren feels though.
@@gamesrme1 oh ok thanks
“A king unwilling to protect his own people is no true king”
- Kruger
That makes Jesus the greatest king of all then, since hes always protecting his people myself included
@@alexm7627 that never even was a question it's a fact
@@alexm7627no jesus is a prophet of God sent to the Israelite..
Not like they were interested in being kings and queens. They had the pauper sat on the throne.
@@EnclosedPoolAreaThey still held authority and ruled the Walls. The decision-making was left to the government, yes, but they still had to sanction some important things
I really don't understand how no one saw frieda getting mindcontrolled by the king's vow. This is not frieda that is talking. It's the king himself.
I feel like she would have agreed with Grisha if it wasn't for the king
People knew about the vow, Frieda father knew something was up when his brother acted the same way as their own dad. Heck eren’s dad even knew
@@Yedolf-0638 There was a scene in season 3 where she was shown to be mentally tormented. His father and uncle also protested to their parent that he should use the power of the founder to liberate the Eldians of the walls from the titans. They even got incarcerated. So, in a way all of them had the desire to help their people, but in the end they submitted to the Founder's ideals and charisma.
@@yorgosatsavelis3325 yup and that was why Frieda's uncle looked like he was always in pain in Kenny's memories . He wanted to save his people too
We know.
Zeke: I want you to understand that I'm in control
Eren: You were never in control to begin with
the game was rigged from the start
Zeke: You defeated me on my own playing ground
Eren: oh don't flatter yourself, you were never a player
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Lol. Made something similar.
Eren "Aizen" Jäger
@@ashlynwolff Azula lol
The fact that for a moment Frieda was somewhat empathetic to Grisha's request, but was sadly short-lived due to Karl Fritz coming to proclaim the good ol' vow, hence why Frieda's eyes turn violet blue. Eren is not mad at Frieda herself, he's mad at the man behind her eyes (Karl Fritz) that doomed the Eldians freedom and livelihoods, a big red flag in Eren's core values.
Eren is entirely justified and did nothing wrong
I will not elaborate
@@HydraDominus genocide is bad, sir
@@HydraDominus i see a man who support genocide
@@HydraDominus I have come to the conclusion that you are right, dear comrade
@@spookytown7963 all three sides are for genocide on their own way. Eren uses the Titans to murder everyone but Eldians. Zeke has eldians and Titans slowly wiped out of existence. And Marley continues to use Eldians as cattle to rule the world with Titans.
Frieda with blue eyes: her normal self
Frieda with purple eyes: karl fritz control
Poor Frieda, she was victim and actually wanted to save the innocents lifes
So we shouldn't blame her for saying those things?
@@MrMisterman1 yep
@@MrMisterman1 she and her uncle uri and also other previous holders of founder with royal blood were forced to follow the ideology of the first king
@@ucchiharaanishime2388 cause they are weak and unable to resist the king. How can 1 king who easnt even the original have so much control even still. Answer is they are not like eren. Ultimately they give up even trying to fight it. I believe if eren had the royal blood and founding he could have broken the curse himself
She is weak and the biggest enemy to her own people.
"I am not in danger, Skyl- I mean Zeke. I am the danger. A guy opens his door and gets brainwashed and you think that of me? No. I am the one who brainwashes!" -Erin
Lmaooooo underrated comment
lol
Actually watched this episode of AOT after finishing El Camino. 5/10 just for the 5 min Walter flashback 😄
Perfect quote for this and an excellent show as well
You know why I didn't accept your plan? Because it's too small! I don't care about it! It's nothing to me! It's a bacterium! I travel in worlds you can't even imagine! You can't conceive of what I'm capable of! I'm so far beyond you! I'm like a god in human clothing! Lighting bolts shoot from my fingertips!
Zeke:"Your father brainwashed you eren..."
Eren: *Yesn't*
We can say Eren brainwashed his father
Eren: "My brother, it's the other way around"
@ДАНЫШПАН which will brainwash grisha again
@@reflex9216 nah this aint time travel
@@reflex9216 hes just speaking to the past through the power of the attack titan. grisha sees erens future memorys of this exact moment when it is happening so its like a live video in grishas head
Zeke: What does this mean Eren?!
Eren: It means big brother, that everything has gone according to my plan.
Light yagami moment
Aizen: is this man one of my people ?
@@agnivmajumdar215 keikaku doori
just as planned
Frieda is a hostage of the King's will, Grisha is being manipulated by his own son from the future. I don't who I pity the most, because is clear neither of this two wanted a bloodbath but this whole thing is beyond their control. Their are just tools for the wills of people who are not even there anymore/yet. What a sadistic situation.
Couldn’t have said it better, this series is just too good
One manipulated by the past the other the future. The one moment when the past present and future meet at once.
Even those things that Frieda said, probably the King whispered in her ears.
Frieda doesn't have free Will, Grisha does. All Eren did was strengthen Grisha's resolve to go ahead with his plan. Grisha met with Fireda with the intention to take the Founding Titan, he just had second thoughts because he doesn't want to kill children.
I would’ve loved if we had a shadow behind Frieda of king Fritz looking happy at what Frieda is saying to be the contrary to Eren’s rage. I woulda nut in my pants at that shit
I love the sound of a storm or pre eruption sound going while Eren looks to about near lose it.
Sound of the rumbling apparently
Eren boutta go super saiyan lol
a hot boiling soup
boiling with rage
I can tell Frieda truly wanted to help Grisha, if it wasn’t for that fucking king’s vow, she definitely would’ve stopped the titans
Imagine they teamed up and we got Grisha and Frieda vs. Reiner.
@@Adsper2000 Frieda will lost with Reiner since Armored Titan can out gunner her in fist fight
@@jeanuardorbigoso699 the founding titan's power would obliterate Reiner though, it's not only about a fist fight here
@@yayyoy1536 If she could use the founder full power it wouldn't be a fight but a massacre but if she coudn't, probably they would lose because the Colossal Titan is too powerful and Reinner was very strong when his mind was determined.
@@tb4u646 no not really as she is a royal family yumir is bound to listen her so ........
Eren just revealed to us all that he was the Aizen of this show the whole time.
He's not Aizen. There is no good or evil in what he did. All he did was fight for the cause.
@@felixling8976 I think you missed the point on what he's saying. He's saying that, just like Aizen, that he made all of this happen for his own goal.
@@Harryboy-hbg Still... Not everything, he ensured that in this time-line, everything had to happen to ensure the plain, idk if we are going to know when exactly this direct past - present- future interaction between father and son actually started...
Aizen was never evil.
@@louisgonzales7512 Eren neither when you read ch. 139
When you realize Zeke is related to everybody in the room.
lol didn't think of it
Every eldian is related if they all came from ymir fritz
@@uglee7675 nah only royal family members have pure blood others like eren are only half eldian
You think three daughters can give birth to all these people
@@AsuraVGC Eldians were a tribe, the royal family were just the rulers of said tribe and the other families which were given the 9 titans became the aristocracy. Think of them as say the Goths or Visigoths and modern day Eldians as Germans.
@@edwardirwin3478 there is a reason why only royal bloodline can use founding Titan cause they are pure blood
Many seem to have forgotten that the vow renouncing war meant Frieda had no choice but to not use the founding titan to protect the people of the walls. Her, Uri Reiss and all the previous founding titans since Fritz all had no control over it sadly.
The king was a weak man
Not weak. Selfish. He was tired of war and wanted to make a Paradise, but truly only for himself. In the meantime not caring about his people across the sea or the generations in the walls that suffered because of an element very much in his control.
In the end if the First King truly wanted to make things right, he shouldn't of condemned the rest of his bloodline to be tormented by what he wanted to do.
@@chaserred4155 so he is weak
It is a massive plot hole, so this 1 king is more powerful of a titan user than anyone else in royal family history?? Kinda bs noone could break it.
@@Kameraspie it’s not bullshit. Just like some people are physically and/or mentally stronger than others. King Fritz will is strong enough to the point that none of his successors have been able to break free from his vow to renounce war
Zeke: I will save you from our father's brainwashing
Eren: I am the one who brainwashed my father
Zeke: NANI?!?!
I read that in Dio's voice lol..
@@MojeZycieWSkrocie Zeke's voice actor is DIO's voice actor aswell lmao
@@realityhorizon297 Jotaro!
@@realityhorizon297 They already knew this lol
@Randy yep
I can only emphasize again and again that, especially as a German, it is extremely fascinating but also sad at the same time how Mr. Isayama deals with the topic of guilt for the sins of the ancestors.
Growing up in a peaceful world but always being told subliminally that you shoulder the sins of the National Socialists is an extremely oppressive feeling for a child.
I wish that future generations will no longer have to do that. And bow in awe to Mr. Isayama for addressing this issue with Attack on Titan.
The results of first world war are the reason why the second war was unavoidable. The like said "winners" humiliated so much the german people, It was a matter of time when they will revenge themselves. Germans havent to feel guilty, I feel pitty for the idiots who does it.
@@quicklyform5162 indeed
im german too. the point is that its our duty that something like this can never happen again. just because a lot of changed, doesnt mean it cant happen again. its true that its not our fault what they did in the past. but we cant ignore our past either. It's really important that our past is not forgotten. I don't know if we should feel guilty or not. but it is our responsibility that something like this can never happen again and that includes not forgetting the crimes of our ancestors. we have to keep this in mind so that we don't move in this direction ever again
There is a healthy balance to it. You obviously don't want to take Japan's route of denying any of the warcrimes they committed in China. Even to the present day. Since people won't forgive until they ask for it.
But I agree, for nations that have made an honest effort to atone, future generations shouldn't feel guilty. But memes on WWII will never die. Don't expect that to change. If memes or jokes are considered extremely oppressive then IDK how you survive IRL.
There are MUCH worse things to grow up with than jokes or guilt tripping about what your nation did in the past.
@@SuperCatacata he's not talking about jokes and memes, he's talking about the modern German culture and education system.
Oooh so Fritz was talking in her place at that moment? about the ‘power falling into the wrong hands again’ and eren got so mad because he realised that even the founding titan didnt have true freedom, thats why he wants to eliminate the vow to renounce war
Finally somebody who understands than hating on frieda
yep, and not just the founding titan. the first king was restricting the freedom of EVERYONE, whether inside the walls or outside. if you were an eldian, you were being persecuted in some way or form due to the first king and his "pacifistic approach"
That and Fritz was a prick
@@asianpersuasion4901 the king and his descendants get to live a cushy life while the rest of the Eldians suffer. Atone for our sins my a*s
Karl Fritz’s vow to renounce war achieved nothing but torment Eldians, whether they’re in Paradis, in Marley or anywhere else in the world. Genocidal war against the other nations didn’t stop after he and the Tyburs sabotaged the Eldian Empire, it just switched to the Marleyan Empire, which was abusing Eldians and their titan powers, making the world hate them even more. If Fritz wanted to make amends for his crimes and the crimes of his ancestors he should’ve gone with Zeke’s idea in the first place, his purpose was simply to punish his own people’s future generations for crimes they didn’t commit(also having all the Eldians on Paradis never know what they’re being punished for). Karl Fritz was the most evil of all Eldian Kings.
well fritz's intention was never to save the eldians anyways. He just left them to perish and atone for their sins
@@Kittiesftw Who wouldn’t be pissed
Sins of the father, such a bullshit fallacy. Condemning people that never once did anything that their ancestors did who we're the real guilty ones. Which goes to show currently their is no one to blame anymore that this point. Only the ones that have done "their own bullshit" in todays time.
@@Kittiesftw Atoning for "their" sins my a*$, he was just an idiot. Bitch had the ability either to save his people or to just end them so future generations wouldn't suffer. What he did, took a few of them with him built walls, and brainwashed them and left the rest to suffer🤣🤣🤣Like just how, how can one have such an idiotic plan, literally anything would have been better
What Karl did was also justifiable 100 years ago. Because eldians were barbarous that time
I like how when Frieda is talking with the king ideology her eyes are purple
king is in control
1:18 Since eren is the last attack titan. That must mean that all past attack titan wielders were seeing eren's future memory. Weird how they kept moving forward because of a unborn person's memory.
Wow 🤔
As zeke tells eren about how greisha treated him and about his plan to save eldia, greisha gets to know about zeke's feelings as well through eren's memories which is why greisha condemns himself so much because of not treating zeke in a better way. Damn....AOT is really one of a masterpiece of
a tragic anime. Tragedy through and through.
To think that this isn't a fight between Grisha and Frieda but a fight between Eren and King Fritz is beyond epic!
Zeke: *traps Eren "Surprise! I had a feeling you were lying to me."
Eren: "ohoho you got me good. Definitely didn't see that coming at all. Not one bit, totally caught off guard."
Zeke: *squints eyes
having that rumbling sound in the background makes it feel like a spoiler and more interesting about erens real thoughts
How do you even know what the sound for the rumbling is?
@Udenna Nwuneli you didnt hear the rumbling in the background or what i didnt mean the actual rumbling but the sound my god
@@karelw.4390 not the ost
@Udenna Nwuneli lol, this doesn't exactly answer how he knows what the Rumbling is actually gonna sound like.
@Udenna Nwuneli ofc ik bruh
The mans beautiful but he sure is vicious.
He is like us this Bitche let all his poor people die in pain
@@blacky8987 did you even watch it properly ?
@@Kittiesftw Yea kid she Could be Like zeke and do want she needs.... Stop trying to look gansta talking about anime the facts are in manga and here. Son. she was weak.
@@blacky8987 Again, she's not the one talking, she's being controlled by the King's will.
@@Ivebeenwaitingforthis1 yet they go on to take the founding, even when they know that it's going to happen. The royal family are all brats.
Grisha: I can't kill children...
Eren: Yes you can
Grisha: Yes I can
LMAO
That's it. That's literally the whole scene.😂
0:55 Eren: bitch stop right now
1:07 "Oh don't you dare to step back!"
1:09 "I FUCKING WARNED YOU!"
Eren is something else isn't he?
that pure unadulterated rage....
mad respect for KING YEAGER!!
Eren Yeager GOAT
“I never wanted to be the king”
I swear!!
Karl Fritz is the true villain, he could have done better but his own selfish desire to feel good about himself brought a lot of pain and suffering from innocent people who didn't do anything wrong.
@@haroldcruz8550 yes explain the part he could have done better ( and ofc his first priorities would be paradise )
@@weirdhuh8046 He could have done the same thing Eren did without the Rumbling. Marley wasn't strong enough at that time so at least Eldians had a fighting chance.
1:08
My boy absolutely hates pessimist/defeatist ideals
Loved it
I relate *HEAVILY,* so I love it 😈
_Those thunders, dude... THOSE THUNDERS...!!_
Fucking love Eren so much. He is what humans should strive to have as their ideals. Protect all, harm none, unless those mfs want to kill you, then go ALL out. So refreshing
anime eren is an absolute GOAT
Grisha's VA is impeccable as is the animation by Mappa which perfectly portrayed his spiraling decent into complete hysteria.
13/10
0:55 They did such a good job with his facial expressions bruh this gives me chills
This scene is tragic all the way around across the board
We have Grisha being forced to kill innocent children all the while being reminded of the pain he tried to forget from his past…..by his own son no less.
We have Frieda who has been burdened to allow her fellow Eldians to die for the “sins” of her ancestors. And when Grisha breaksdown in front her, she is instantly by her family including her spineless father to kill him. Meanwhile she truly wants nobody to die.
Then we have Eren having to listen to Frieda justify why allowing the citizens of the walls including his friends and family to die.
And Zeke now realising the type of person Eren truly is.
Levi and reiner knew what type of person eren was from the start
@@kingkyle.0.0.7 both comments are true for me.
What kind of person is eren? Would you mind to elaborate?
@@adrianacabrera838 based on a video I’ve watch about Eren (I can send it if you want) I think he’s somewhat of a sociopath. While yes you could he does the things he does for his friend which I understand…but he didn’t activate the rumbling because he needed to. But because he wanted to
But if he didn't activate the rumbling most of the world would attack paradis. I believe he did it because there was literally no other way . I believe that any other route would have caused mikass or Armin or maybe both to die. Although he cared about his race as a whole he wanted to protect those 2 the most on top of the desire for freedom. He had to become the villain in order to truly be free and save his loved ones by breaking the titan curse and the rumbling basically made sure that other races/countries wouldn't try to retaliate. But yes send the video I would love to watch it.
Zeke: NOOOOOOO YOU CANNOT REJECT RHE EUTHANIZATION PLAN
Eren: *I must keep moving forward until I destroy my enemies*
He's not exactly mad at Frieda, but I can't blame him. If I got told that my ass had to die for some shit that happened hundreds of years ago, shit that ain't got shit to do with me I'd be pissed too.
Don’t forget about the king spouting off atone for our sins bs but the king and his descendants they all get to live cushy lives while the rest of the Eldians suffer.
Meet the modern day german
@@oliverallen2565 Sins and atrocities that his family ordered. The Fritz had control over all the Titans, so it's not like those Titans were killing people on their own free will.
@@lisboah right
@@megamanbrandonMeet the modern day white person/European descendant being blamed for past atrocities such as colonialism,slavery,racism,genocide,imperialism,conquest etc (Which was done by all races and nations but Europeans just did it on a larger scale and only seem to get the blame)
call me a yeagerist but i think this is completely justified from Eren… Freida and the Reiss family had been completely brainwashed (we can see this when Freida’s eyes suddenly change and she becomes robot-like) and Eren is completely aware of this. This wasn’t an act of violent savagery from Eren, this was calculated and a fight for the freedom of his people. The Reiss family would have gladly let all Eldians be massacred by Marleyans due to the fault of Eldian’s from hundreds of years ago who no one even knew?? Imagine if IRL we massacred people due to the mistakes (no matter how horrible) of our ancestors that we never have even met.
Eren is not a villain in my eyes… he’s just a tragic protagonist.
Quite literally all of the members of the Reiss family wanted the founder to take down the titans. The only problem was the founder himself and herself. For the longest time, Eren was under the assumption that Grisha killed the founder at the literal worst time that is when the Colossal titan attacked which prevented the founder from protecting the walls and thus saving her people. This was why he felt guilty for what Grisha did along with the fact that he slaughtered children (something incomprehensible to pre-Historia hand kissing Eren).
But then, Eren saw the truth. Even while being forced to confront the situation which required mitigation of and control over the titans to simply go outside the walls and fix the walls again, Karl Fritz avoided doing anything and only used this unfortunate incident as an excuse for Eldians to finally suffer for the sins of their ancestors.
"Call me a jaegerist"? Like if it's a bad thing you're a shamed from? Dude
@@aliskilletman welp funny u say that i actually don’t really support the jaegerists anymore 😭😭
@@archiehazelden781 Why not?
@@JoseRamirez-ew7vq i dont personally agree with destroying the entire planet :/ but i don’t wanna open that can of worms lol
It's really funny how much frieda and eren look alike lmfao
Zeke: I will free you of our fathers manipulation
Eren: what makes you think he manipulated me
Zeke: what does that mea-
Eren: my goals are beyond your comprehension dear brother
I can't even blame eren on this one the king's ideology disgusts me too. It just sucks that Frieda and her family had to be shackled to it.
When u realize that the first attack titan shifter already knew what was going to happen hundreds years ahead and let it happen or make it happen and then u think about it that there must be a strong reason behind that, but the last attack titan shifter is still don't know what happen in the past and have to kinda find out and still doing what he wants that the point where ur jaw starting to get hurt ,damn I had so much in my mind after watching this episode and this episode is truly a jaw dropping from the beginning till the end.
And the only anime watchers like me knowing this without getting spoiler damn it's just a truly happiness:).
Eren’s rage in this moment was greater than the rage of the Attack Titan.
I know Zeke was upset when Eren unplugged his controller
Bruh I’m convinced that this eren and the eren in the ending are not the same people
Yeah here he kills only a couple of people. In the ending he kills like a billion.
Fritz talks about how they must not run from their sins and pay, but when he renounced war, he didn't offer himself to be punished. He escaped to the island and used the rumbling as a bluff to be able to live the rest of his days in peace. He sacrificed future innocent generations to feel good about himself, without being willing to sacrifice himself for his supposed ideals. Of course Eren was furious.
Kings deserve less
Like Krueger said to Grisha A king who doesnt care about his people and abandons them is no king at all
You can hear Erens blood boiling in this scene. In my opinion Eren and Grisha did everyone in the walls a favor by killing her and taking the power of the founder. The philosophy and thinking of the reiss family is insane. Because of all the shit that went down in history even in the great titan war, they believe the sins of eldia could never be repaid. That type of thinking is dangerous and is connected to real world shit. Some people believe because of the horrible shit their ancestors did in the past they think they should be punished for their sins as well. That is insane. No child deserves to be punished for the sins of any parent at all.
Now just imagine what Eren would do to Karl Fritz the 145th if he was still alive.
It’s sad that Frieda was trying to fight the Vow Renouncing War until the Founder’s power activated and her whole demeanor changed. I never noticed that in the manga
"I really may have said that our people of paradis should suffer for their sins, but the truth is that I never wanted that to happen to them, I wanted to help them, because in fact they don't know what is happening. I never wanted this for anyone."
Frieda Reiss
To people wondering how Eren made contact with Grisha:
- Grisha basically saw FUTURE Eren's memories (which is the Eren we will see later on in the series) through CURRENT Eren's eyes (which is the Eren in this episode watching Grisha's memories)
- Basically Grisha saw himself through CURRENT Eren's POV/Eyes that's why he could tell Zeke was there because Eren could see Zeke. And that's why he knows Eren is there because he is watching himself through Eren's eyes.
- To make it simpler: Grisha - Future Eren's Memories (through Current Eren's eyes) - and then back to Grisha
- Grisha saw FUTURE Eren's memories which is the CURRENT Eren watching his fathers memories.
Eren kissing historia's hand:
- Eren basically saw FUTURE Eren's plan through Grisha's Memories. Basically Grisha saw FUTURE Eren's plan and since CURRENT Eren can access Grisha's memories seeing the FUTURE Eren's plan, then he could basically see the future.
- To make it simpler: Grisha saw FUTURE Eren's Memories - CURRENT/PAST Eren (When he kissed Historia) saw Grisha seeing FUTURE Eren's Memories.
It's a litte bit confusing but all in all they basically just see each others memories seeing each others memories
-by @kamon
Crazy
Damn
Nani-
So eren saw himself through his father in a chronological sense
There is till something missing tho, like how the fuck grisha can hug zeke when zeke isn't there (spectator/ghost). Looks like isayama ain't smart enough?
His rage wasn't at Frieda, but at Fritz. Fritz damned them all to death, and had the nerve, the fucking gall to force them to wax political about? To force his people to wrongly believe that they should be slaughtered for the sins of a past over 2000 years ago? Yeah, I'd be fucking enraged too.
Yes
it wasnt 2000 years ago. it lasted 2000 years. please get it right.
1:22 Their position represents the time
Zeke: past
Grisha: now
Eren: future
That look on Eren's face still gives me chills
0:55 the moment eren realized what he had to do and that he had already seen himself do it
Erens rage was soo justified here lol
Although I never agreed with Eren's choices, I understand why he got so mad here.
Eren just saw someone claim that the entire Eldian population should perish just because of their ancestors mistakes. A population of people that have never committed the atrocities that their ancestors committed. Apparently according to this woman, we should all atone for someone else's mistakes.
This is basically the equivalent of some woke white woman saying that all white people should die because of the atrocities their ancestors committed.
It's not Frieda's real opinion but she just says what the curse of the king forces her to say. Look at her purple eyes. Notice she was visibly struggling before she responded. This is not her free will.
Basically the Christian religion
They are still committing atrocities
@@jadsakalaki2574 Not really, but whatever you say.
But isn't this exactly what Eren does himself. Due to his actions, many babies and kids died as well. How exactly did they play a part?
This episode was directed and produced by Eren Yeager
0:20 For a second i thought it was eren
😂
Somehow this Eren turned 360 degrees to the pathetic "I don't want that" Eren in final episode
ereh... what a man you are...
@@blubblubblupas a reward..
Turned 360 means he is facing the same way as before. And you're accidentally right. Not wanting to die like in the ending is the same reason as why he was angry here.
@@EnclosedPoolAreaending ruined eren
No big deal Eren just made the royal family pay for their sins earlier than everyone else. That's what she wanted right?
🤣
1:10 Rumbling foreshadowing
Frieda being controlled by a king from the past, Grisha being controlled by his own son in the future.
Eren got so mad, you could hear his rage
AHA I don’t know why but just Frieda going “wadda wadda” every 5 secs is killing me
That was just how royalty speak in japan haha
I like that Freida was shown to be conflicted. She wanted to help till the vow possessed her. Tragic
"I really may have said that our people of paradis should suffer for their sins, but the truth is that I never wanted that to happen to them, I wanted to help them, because in fact they don't know what is happening. I never wanted this for anyone."
Frieda Reiss
Never thought I'd love an absolute sociopath, but here I am lmao!
whose the sociopath here? I dont see one lol
He's not
@@Jessiechan123 hyperbole ofc, but he undeniably has traits
@@emmanueladedeji3335 not at all, he is anything but a sociopath
@@realswobby Where is your pfp from
frieda deserved better , she wasn’t cruel she was just controlled by karls will
This show. I've seen it 3 times and each time I still get goosebumps.
It’s a beautiful parallel.
A titan shifter who’s blessed/cursed with the knowledge of the past and is a slave to the will of her predecessor, confronted by a titan shifter who’s blessed/cursed with the knowledge of the future and is a slave to the will of his successor.
Give me back this Eren please
Frieda: ''We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas.''
More like Karl Fritz
Unpopular opinion, the music is brilliant and terrifying here. Sawano killed it!
Not unpopular at all, AOT score has always been great. Sawano is goated.
Eren looks like Freida at this point
ikr
Freida is king fritz during the scene when her eyes changed
1:04 nice rumbling effect.
Hope it doesn't give Eren any ideas.
Lmao
This scene perfectly shows erens will for freedom and spirit to move forward
Love how Zeke looks to Eren and is in awe at how much anger resides in Eren because of the king's ideology to just lay down and die because it's to repent their "sin". Even Grisha can feel how much anger Eren is letting out. It gives me the chills everytime I read it in the manga.
Imagine realizing that because of some coward king your whole nation is forced to accept annihilation... wouldn't you want to stand against it?
The biggest enemy of this whole series is not a person but the Titan power in itself. Humans are just flawed and shitty in general but when they get incredible power in their hands, this is where real hell starts to happen.
Right
wouldnt really call him a coward. eldians were bloodthirsty back then
@@erenyeager6668 and non Eldians aren’t?
@@erenyeager6668 He is a coward alright. Even if its true that the Titan civilisation massacered and misused their powers to end people, his decision was legit half assed and completely hypocritic.
The king himself wanted to atone to what his own ancestors did and to stop that from happening he enclosed his people and took away everyones memories to live a world called paradise. How did that help? Years later soldiers and people were in a risk of getting eaten by titans just to get close to the truth the king wanted to keep away from them. It didnt help.
Rather his actions escalated and fed more hatred to the other countries who were still not at peace with Eldia even existing. If the king genuinely wanted to atone for his sins he would just killed himself and took his entire nation down with him to end the cycle of hatred. But he didnt. He had no courage to do that. He is a coward for fleeing and leaving his people behind in other nations. He is a hypocrite for making the present Eldians pay for the mistakes which only their ancestors did. And thus, a monster like Eren was born.
The King isn't a coward but a staunch Pacifist and believer in "Sins of the Father".
"The biggest enemy of this whole series is not a person but the Titan power in itself. Humans are just flawed and shitty in general but when they get incredible power in their hands, this is where real hell starts to happen."
You are kinda argeeing with First King controlled Frieda here.
I like how even zeke was frightened of eren's expression lmao
Erens face is basically me everytime the government announced another lockdown
Sunday used to be a holy day, now it's Eren's day
Eren was about to fking explode
Something I’ve always liked about the style is how the angrier a character is, the more line shading their eyes get. With Ymir, you could never even see her eyes until she was set free by Eren, and in the paths, both of them had completely missing eyes.
1:22 if you listen closely you can hear the rumbling's footsteps
Damn I got chills watching this ep from that face. The sheer fury in his face was perfectly animated
When all the foundings meet but erens the most badass one
Eren: *demanded to write his story in his own way*
Isayama: 🤷♂️
I can empathize what eren was feeling. King fritz became a spineless coward who walked out on his people when they all needed him to protect them.
Even worse he wanted to punish the descendants for things that weren’t in their control. I agree with Krueger a king who won’t protect his people is no king.
Not to mention that the sins he believes that the Eldians should atone for were ordered by his family. And yet both he and his family hid in Paradis and behind the walls, while his subjects had to suffer centuries of persecution.
Frieda looking beautiful as ever. The most gorgeous woman in Shingeki.
bruh
It sucks that she got eaten by a guy who was abused into doing it by his own son
Nope
That is Carla Yeager
Most gorgeous woman in AOT
Fr
when you're protagonist and the antagonist at the same tame.
Frieda: It's time for our people to be punished by their sins
Also Frieda and her cowardly family: Hiding behind the most inner wall like a b*tch while their people are suffering
Technically, it wasn't Frieda talking. It was the First King of the Wall.
But yeah, the Fritz/Reiss family were behind all the horrors the Eldians commited, and yet they never had to suffer for that. They fled to Paradis and created the walls to prevent the rest of the world from coming, and erased the memories of everyone from Paradis to ensure no one knew what they did.
You guys gotta understand, the thing that makes this scene special, is the fact Eren has seen it before.
He has witnessed the words once, yet they still anger him like he's hearing such nonsense for the first time.
The will of a past king and a future rebel clash against each other, thus, harming those who wish for peace in the present.
Very poetic imagery of how truth and idealism influence our very reality.
Eh not all are wishing for peace
@@oliverallen2565 well, exceptions exist in every age. But at this very moment, Grisha and Frieda each just wanted peaceful families, as suggested by their hesitation for conflict.
Frieda has the most elegant voice and accent till now please.... ❤️
1:05 Eren rage radiating through the space time continuum that Grisha can practically feel it all. Twas a great detail.