Takz15x nope. Mainly because idk how to do zips in this game, let alone clip through solid objects like you did with Hyper Sonic... I’m also doing it with S+T, however literally 5 seconds after the six frame, he’s gone. I guess I shouldn’t have included Tails...
Yess finally it's out, but on Shiro's channel because I can't upload a 27gb file due to storage...Maybe I could download this video and try and make the gb size shorter, then upload it on my channel but idk. Also this TAS is miles better than my attempt on newgame+ and u should agree with that too.
Yeah, I don't understand WHY the intentionally changed it at the start. Leave it as released not the garbo S&K collection version. I know those are the "original" versions from the beta but of all of them, Launch base is the only one I even like!
@@Z51MAELSTROMsorry for being late, but due to copyright issues with Micheal Jackson secretly creating the CNZ, ICZ and LBZ it could not be done as they need permission.
Several times throughout the special stages, Sonic was able to turn an array of blue spheres into rings without touching all the spheres on the perimeter (0:25, 1:02, 2:17, 4:40, 6:12, 9:40,) land and turn on white spheres without bouncing backward (6:05, 6:11, 8:22,) and touch red spheres without ending the stage (4:28, 8:47,) and that’s just what I saw within the first 10 minutes. I know tool-assisted runs can do all sorts of game-breaking feats that are impossible for humans, but how were you able to do all that?
Actually, that's one of the mechanics of the stage. If you make a loop of red spheres with there being blues inside then the whole square turns to rings
There's some type of bug with how the game reads the perimeter of spheres. I'm not sure of the specifics or how to abuse it but it's not the first time I've seen a TAS do that.
I thought I understood the rules of the special stages but there's a bunch of cases where they made rings without creating a perimeter, particularly the 4th and 6th emeralds. What is this sorcery?
If the emeralds transforms sonic into super sonic, and the super emeralds tranforms him into hyper sonic, I want to see him using the hyper emeralds to transform into ultra sonic. XD
Great run, but what on earth is up with half of these comments? Did this get pushed into the algorithm or something? Also what's up with certain sound effects sounding off, like the jumping or braking
what does no Zips mean? are you referring to the x-y axis tracking thing when you hold down and make the cam go down? also at the @16:24 mark how did you get the last his as normal sonic when you were super?
zipping means clipping through walls and getting pushed out of them once you're fully in them, also sonic 3 complete lets you detransform at will i think
Awesome and entertaining AF, thanks. For convenience I usually just play Origins these days. I tell you I MISS the little things like the S3 boss music and the not-glitchy way the Hydrocity fans sound. I need to step up my emulation game!
(28:31 - 28:33) The end of super sonic locking off to try again the special stage continue into diamond 💎 (super emeralds) to unlock “HYPER SONIC”: (28:34 - 29:34) Special Stage 8 (30:02 - 31:05) Special Stage 9 (31:21 - 32:34) Special Stage 10 (32:50 - 33:56) Special Stage 11 (35:05 - 35:55) Special Stage 12 (36:10 - 37:12) Special Stage 13 (37:33 - 38:41) Special Stage 14 (38:45 - 59:37) Hyper Sonic (Max Speed + 50 Rings + Glitches + Invincibility) (1:00:00 - 1:00:42) Good ending ✅.
I know this is a late response, but basically Micheal Jackson's music team helped create some of the songs for Sonic 3 & Knuckles, including sounds from other songs (the glass break sound in carnival night or the 'go' line in launch base for example) and therefore Sega legally don't own the tracks. To avoid any copyright battles, the Jackson team's music was replaced by unrefined prototype music originally designed for the game in all future versions. This includes (as far as I'm aware): Knuckles' theme Mini Boss fights Super sonic's theme Carnival Night act 1 & 2 Ice Cap act 1 & 2 Launch Base act 1 & 2 Edit: and the credits song! (Thanks to @Ashfur of Thunderclan) If anyone has more info, or knows I'm wrong with something, do say and I'll edit this comment
best speedrun ever, plays well without dying and is very buggy and with all the chaos emeralds and super chaos emeralds you do a lot of better speedrunning and everything
@@ColtonPrice095 I don't know what that means (obviously the frames do advance or there would be no video), but I know TAS means nothing is left to chance or player skill.
@@nthgth Game is played frame by frame, inputs were recorded and then played here in real time honestly the patience makes it feel more impressive compared to rta
@@ColtonPrice095 so the frame advances by 1, the player decides what inputs they want for that frame and presses the buttons, it's counted and processed, then the frame advances again? Very interesting. Almost like a regular playthrough but with absolute maximum precision. Yes, sounds very patience-intensive. I think I need to read more on the Tas videos web side
@@reighnaldranch635 well 2 things here are to be noted, Sometimes TASers do it for: 1. For entertainment 2. Frames, they also save frames because of it. That's all I know for a lot
Questions: What version of Sonic 3 is this that's allowing you to do the peel out move? Also, how are you transforming to and from Super Sonic even when you have a shield on? Edit: I'm just now noticing "Complete" is actually a part of the game's title and is a rom hack.
It’s definitely PC because they sound like garbage, on the actual Sega chip, they sound amazing, even though I love the original Genesis/Michael Jackson produced songs, I got admit carnival night at two and launch base act one actually have some really catchy seems. But this PC version does not do it justice.
@@mangoblade3877It doesn’t really help that the GENS emulator (keep in mind, Sonic 3 Complete is a rom hack) straight-up emulates square waves as sine waves, making Sonic’s jump, for example, sound very wrong
To zip is when u hold left or right into the wall, but u move to the opposite direction 16 pixels per frame, and I didn't use any zips at all, rather I used glitches and clipped through floors and walls to skip parts of the level.
It's just a Thing™ that you can do with the right setup. _Under certain conditions it's possible to jump directly on a red sphere and turn on it without losing. This trick likely has something to do with subpixel position. At lowest speed (first 1800 frames of the stage) it's possible to turn in the same direction as what was the previous turn. After speedup things get somewhat more complicated._ - From submission #5639 on TASVideos
@@Vinszz.Gs09 but I recommend having a friend or a family member that probably says “sure” if you say “hey wanna play sonic 3 (or & knuckles or sonic 2,) and you be tails?”it’s gonna be bad if you just play by 2 controllers yourself.
![[TAS] Sonic 3 & Knuckles Master Edition 2 as Knuckles in 1:07:32.6](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/y7xuM-X-xXM/mqdefault.jpg)
![[TAS] Sonic 3 & Knuckles Master Edition 2 as Knuckles in 1:07:32.6](/img/tr.png)
![[TAS] Sonic Adventure 2 "Hero Story A-Ranks" in 23:25](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7Idx7om2i_0/mqdefault.jpg)
18:19 I love how Sonic and Knuckles did a bit of a dance together lmao.
Hi
OH GOD, my life is almost complete i will keep playing this clip
Ngl this is real
Doing a 100% TAS of this game too, using the video for reference.
Good luck
Thanks. Currently on Sandopolis 2.
@@JSins_ are ya doing with zips?
Takz15x nope. Mainly because idk how to do zips in this game, let alone clip through solid objects like you did with Hyper Sonic...
I’m also doing it with S+T, however literally 5 seconds after the six frame, he’s gone. I guess I shouldn’t have included Tails...
@@JSins_ ah rite noice
Yess finally it's out, but on Shiro's channel because I can't upload a 27gb file due to storage...Maybe I could download this video and try and make the gb size shorter, then upload it on my channel but idk.
Also this TAS is miles better than my attempt on newgame+ and u should agree with that too.
You did amazing on this man
Takz you did amazing on this TAS
Hey shiro (Michael Jackson) can you teach me the art of moonwalk
Ask Michael Jackson
@@DarkShamilKhan I fixed now
@@R3d_Dr4g0n18 lol ok
Lol
@@DarkShamilKhan but he’s dead
Bro went full micheal jackson mode on the special stages
Good run, Takz.
Credit to Shiro Paradox, DarkShamilKhan, Kaan55, Evil_3D, and some other TASers and the rest of u who are reading this lul
You're welcome
Damn, they massacred the Carnival Night, Ice Cap and Launch Base music.
Yeah, I don't understand WHY the intentionally changed it at the start. Leave it as released not the garbo S&K collection version. I know those are the "original" versions from the beta but of all of them, Launch base is the only one I even like!
@@Z51MAELSTROMsorry for being late, but due to copyright issues with Micheal Jackson secretly creating the CNZ, ICZ and LBZ it could not be done as they need permission.
The greatest sonic game ever made for the Sega Genesis!
I have never seen anyone play sonic 3 like this. Incredible
Stickin' some showboating on the blue sphere special stages like a boss!
it was funny at 18:20 where they mimicked knuckles jump and pressing the button
is a Sharingan lol
This version has weird music. It's missing all the stuff Michael Jackson helped write.
this is prototype versions of music
40:57
Did anyone else feel the rhythm along with Sonic’s spin dash?
Dam
Yes
holy shet it works in my ears
My grandma thought the hyper sonic parts where so cool, she started danceing on the floor
I dont think your grandma *Dancing on the floor*
Took me a moment of Realization 💀
Took me a moment of realization 💀
Several times throughout the special stages, Sonic was able to turn an array of blue spheres into rings without touching all the spheres on the perimeter (0:25, 1:02, 2:17, 4:40, 6:12, 9:40,) land and turn on white spheres without bouncing backward (6:05, 6:11, 8:22,) and touch red spheres without ending the stage (4:28, 8:47,) and that’s just what I saw within the first 10 minutes.
I know tool-assisted runs can do all sorts of game-breaking feats that are impossible for humans, but how were you able to do all that?
Actually, that's one of the mechanics of the stage. If you make a loop of red spheres with there being blues inside then the whole square turns to rings
There's some type of bug with how the game reads the perimeter of spheres. I'm not sure of the specifics or how to abuse it but it's not the first time I've seen a TAS do that.
Bro did the moon walk in special stage and not die I can’t even do it forward
18:21 Sonic copies Knuckles
I thought I understood the rules of the special stages but there's a bunch of cases where they made rings without creating a perimeter, particularly the 4th and 6th emeralds. What is this sorcery?
It's a glitch, someone explained it in a gdq one time I forget exactly how it works
I like how you in hydro city made eggman almost eat your super foot
I love a good 100% run
MY BOY HAD THAT MOONWALK GOIN’ AND WAS NICE WIT IT✨
I havent found any comments about him using S3 prototype music,so I'll just say it...
the songs are underrated
yes, but the midi doesn't feel as good
If the emeralds transforms sonic into super sonic, and the super emeralds tranforms him into hyper sonic, I want to see him using the hyper emeralds to transform into ultra sonic. XD
Takz shouldn't go to the second save file.
i would have stayed on the first one if i played as sonic + tails
Great run, but what on earth is up with half of these comments? Did this get pushed into the algorithm or something? Also what's up with certain sound effects sounding off, like the jumping or braking
Maybe the PSG channel is "smooth" or something because both of those sounds use the PSG sound channel
@@Mizu2023 they're from sonic cd which didn't use the psg channels
I like to think this is how the adventure actually went.
what does no Zips mean? are you referring to the x-y axis tracking thing when you hold down and make the cam go down? also at the @16:24 mark how did you get the last his as normal sonic when you were super?
zipping means clipping through walls and getting pushed out of them once you're fully in them, also sonic 3 complete lets you detransform at will i think
low key needs to have a seizure warning for all the hyper sonic parts.
Awesome and entertaining AF, thanks.
For convenience I usually just play Origins these days. I tell you I MISS the little things like the S3 boss music and the not-glitchy way the Hydrocity fans sound. I need to step up my emulation game!
Seriously, why did you intentionally make all the music worse? Why? Of all the changes.
It's an acquired taste, but the prototype tracks are just as good a s the MJ ones, just a different vibe.
I like your speed run videos
Chaos emeralds with special stage (Rings 0% + Perfect 0%) to unlock “SUPER SONIC”:
(0:25 - 1:23) Special Stage 1
(1:59 - 3:00) Special Stage 2
(3:53 - 5:07) Special Stage 3
(5:35 - 6:31) Special Stage 4
(8:16 - 9:07) Special Stage 5
(9:38 - 10:52) Special Stage 6
(12:31 - 13:23) Special Stage 7
+
(13:35 - 28:31) Super sonic (50 rings) ➡️ (invincibility).
(28:31 - 28:33) The end of super sonic locking off to try again the special stage continue into diamond 💎 (super emeralds) to unlock “HYPER SONIC”:
(28:34 - 29:34) Special Stage 8
(30:02 - 31:05) Special Stage 9
(31:21 - 32:34) Special Stage 10
(32:50 - 33:56) Special Stage 11
(35:05 - 35:55) Special Stage 12
(36:10 - 37:12) Special Stage 13
(37:33 - 38:41) Special Stage 14
(38:45 - 59:37) Hyper Sonic (Max Speed + 50 Rings + Glitches + Invincibility)
(1:00:00 - 1:00:42) Good ending ✅.
Shiro, holy shit my man, i love watching your TASs! and the fact you do all the settings really fast to is so much fun lol, what emulator do you use?
Welcome to Dr. Robotinik TV!
cool
sandopolis 1 sign went to backstage
Sorry for ask, but why the soundtrack is diferent?
I know this is a late response, but basically Micheal Jackson's music team helped create some of the songs for Sonic 3 & Knuckles, including sounds from other songs (the glass break sound in carnival night or the 'go' line in launch base for example) and therefore Sega legally don't own the tracks. To avoid any copyright battles, the Jackson team's music was replaced by unrefined prototype music originally designed for the game in all future versions. This includes (as far as I'm aware):
Knuckles' theme
Mini Boss fights
Super sonic's theme
Carnival Night act 1 & 2
Ice Cap act 1 & 2
Launch Base act 1 & 2
Edit: and the credits song! (Thanks to @Ashfur of Thunderclan)
If anyone has more info, or knows I'm wrong with something, do say and I'll edit this comment
@@Megakell0 thank you!
@@Megakell0 and credits
Oh my gosh you are GOD OF SPECIAL STAGE
best speedrun ever, plays well without dying and is very buggy and with all the chaos emeralds and super chaos emeralds you do a lot of better speedrunning and everything
18:21 are you trying to do the same custense as knuckles!?
Is it possible to download jet shadow or any other characters in Sonic 3 complete with different abilities it moves? I just got to find out
No apparently
Nah he put a new meaning to gotta go fast
4:29 I call shenanigans!!
How are you good at going backwards in special stages holy crap man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!you are fucking good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is 97% run, you didn't get all perfect special stages, btw congrats you just reached the full speed of a spindash in 0.01 seconds
he is using something called tas/ tool-assisted speedrun
100% run means you gotta get true ending i think
this guy is way too big brain for this, like what?! GOING BACKWARDS IN THE SPECIAL STAGES? holy crap man
It's a TAS, bro
@@nthgth Player was still human, they said to another person they used frame advance
@@ColtonPrice095 I don't know what that means (obviously the frames do advance or there would be no video), but I know TAS means nothing is left to chance or player skill.
@@nthgth Game is played frame by frame, inputs were recorded and then played here in real time
honestly the patience makes it feel more impressive compared to rta
@@ColtonPrice095 so the frame advances by 1, the player decides what inputs they want for that frame and presses the buttons, it's counted and processed, then the frame advances again? Very interesting. Almost like a regular playthrough but with absolute maximum precision. Yes, sounds very patience-intensive. I think I need to read more on the Tas videos web side
Bro just went into knuckles boss in marble zone act 2 like thats normal
How do you know what’s behind you in the special stages?
Anybody want Blue knuckles hit that like button and I will give you the game genie code😎👍
Awesome Loved it so much I had to watch it again
Isn't there the original ice cap zone song?
The one that is currently also good but I prefer the original...
In the setting called sonic 3 complet you put sonic origins music mod or og
My favorite sonic game.
What happened with that first blue sphere? I thought you had to outline a square to turn it into coins
4:28 Excuse me what
Your therapy session begins Thursday
As a TASer I don't know what the hell happened
@@spicybreadproductions1972 i love gen z humor
@@DarkShamilKhan i think it's due to jumping on it and rotating sonic to the left making sonic able to jump
@@DarkShamilKhan frame perfect turn maybe
9:33 wasn't a zip?
No, it's clip.
No TAS. Glitch fest. Disappointing.
nah he used the enemy to start an unstoppable force
Super Duper Speeeeedeeeeeeest
Shiro Paradox In Sandopolis Act 2
Ghosts : We Will Catch You
Shiro Paradox : YOU CAN'T CATCH ME I'M GOD OF SPEEDRUNS
he is using tool-assisted speedrun or tas if you learned short cuts and glitches and used tas you would something close to his
I do not see how completing the special stages in that way makes it faster.
It specifically says 100% for a reason. Getting all the emeralds.
@@DarkShamilKhan I get what you mean, but I just do not understand why beating the special stages in that random style makes it faster.
@@reighnaldranch635 well 2 things here are to be noted, Sometimes TASers do it for:
1. For entertainment
2. Frames, they also save frames because of it.
That's all I know for a lot
How do the tools help in the speed run? I'm completely new to this whole tools assisted idea.
Retrying segments infinitely, slowing speed for more precise control, ability for custom inputs impossible for human hands
Isso aqui é pura arte!!
It's all about timing 😂😂
I love this gameplay, it shows how sonic gamers SHOULD be playing Sonic games😊😊
...the bloody hell is up with the jump and tire-screech sfx? Were they taken from Pac-Man for this Romhack?
Jump and sliding sound effects are from sonic cd i think
Based for using the prototype tracks
Hydrocity zone's music is fire
Questions:
What version of Sonic 3 is this that's allowing you to do the peel out move? Also, how are you transforming to and from Super Sonic even when you have a shield on?
Edit: I'm just now noticing "Complete" is actually a part of the game's title and is a rom hack.
Sonic 3 Complete, a S3K romhack with many added features
(0:03 - 0:05) ALL OPTIONS FROM SONIC 3 COMPLETE SPEEDRUN MUSIC OPTIONS (✅😀).
0:13 First level (+1)
(12:31 - 13:21) Special Stage 7 SPEEDRUN BEFORE UNLOCK SUPER SONIC (INVINCIBILITY).
What a cool video, thank you!
GOTTA GO FAST
They might've removed Michael Jackson's music but they couldn't stop Sonic moonwalking through the special stage
I love mushrooms hill zone the design of the zone is just fun
4th blue sphere was smooth af
Ik it takes forever to make a tas, but could you try on vanilla sonic 3?
Damn why did you have to do knuckles my boy like that
5:24 Ooohh, Whoaa!
I love the spin dash and peel out
The spindash sound..
Me after poop in the toilet
btw which music are those PC port or origins?
Maybe, PC
@@ShiroParadox99yea it’s pc
It’s definitely PC because they sound like garbage, on the actual Sega chip, they sound amazing, even though I love the original Genesis/Michael Jackson produced songs, I got admit carnival night at two and launch base act one actually have some really catchy seems. But this PC version does not do it justice.
@@mangoblade3877 listen if you get a sega genesis then try and modify it
@@mangoblade3877It doesn’t really help that the GENS emulator (keep in mind, Sonic 3 Complete is a rom hack) straight-up emulates square waves as sine waves, making Sonic’s jump, for example, sound very wrong
39:46 huh?
It also happened in sonic 3 and knuckles
4:28 *WHAT*
Dumb question: what is a zip?
To zip is when u hold left or right into the wall, but u move to the opposite direction 16 pixels per frame, and I didn't use any zips at all, rather I used glitches and clipped through floors and walls to skip parts of the level.
Petition to add drop dash to s3c
Hey Shiro, how do you make the jump sound like the sonic CD one?
Checked PSG High Quality
@@ShiroParadox99 and where is that?
13:00 bro what how he touched the red sphere
Interesting…🤔
It's just a Thing™ that you can do with the right setup.
_Under certain conditions it's possible to jump directly on a red sphere and turn on it without losing. This trick likely has something to do with subpixel position. At lowest speed (first 1800 frames of the stage) it's possible to turn in the same direction as what was the previous turn. After speedup things get somewhat more complicated._
- From submission #5639 on TASVideos
Bro are you using a auto clicker when you spin dash? If not, then how to you press the spin dash button so fast?
I used frame advance
@@ShiroParadox99 what is frame advance??
@@dominiccopelyn892 Frame stepping
@@ShiroParadox99oh ok. one more question. Can you get frame advance on mobile
@@dominiccopelyn892 No, only on PC.
Pov: good gamer chair
Shiro paradox what we should press in the settings
How much faster is this than world record? That is, if it even is due to the skips and other stuff in a normal run.
The WR is 55:48 with zips which is in Sonic 3 & Knuckles, but this is 3.5 minutes slower.
and another thing you are a TOOt TOOT sonic warrior master man
How do you make the jump sound have that different sound?
PSG High Quality
@@ShiroParadox99 Kega Fusion?
@@eltecla7 Gens
@@ShiroParadox99 I don't have gens, do you know if it works in kega fusion?
@@eltecla7 Sound -> check Super HQ
The special stages kinda ruin the whole thing :\
It's very goog congrats.
Good run i bet you played special stage an levels 1,000,000.
Okay, but you didn't have to say it like that
How you make fly with tails in you video "sonic 3 and knuckle master edition [TAS] speedrun"
2nd controller
@@DarkShamilKhan oo okay thanks
@@Vinszz.Gs09 but I recommend having a friend or a family member that probably says “sure” if you say “hey wanna play sonic 3 (or & knuckles or sonic 2,) and you be tails?”it’s gonna be bad if you just play by 2 controllers yourself.
@@cartoonnetworksboyfriend oo thanks for suggestion
@@Vinszz.Gs09 no problem
59:24 24 for KOBE!!!
0:59 bro did a expert move
I have a question, what version of Gens did you use?
what is the name of the emulator you used to play sonic
Gens
@@ShiroParadox99 thank you bro🙂
By the way, what version can you tell?
@@darkus1941, it depends on the customization
Shiro paradox how do you get the unused super theme of sonic 3
Well, in settings.
@@ShiroParadox99
Hhhhhhhhhhh
2:14
What version of Sonic 3 is this? I had it for Genesis, and I don’t remember the Super Peel Pit from Sonic CD in that game.
It's a version for speedruns
It’s a rom hack.
.. 2 months later.
But the version’s name is “Sonic 3 Complete”