Eachine EV300D Latency Fixed? - 'How to' and my thoughts

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  • Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
  • It is becoming clear that there have been several versions of the update firmware that potentially explains the different results testers are getting. Without version numbers on the .bin file its impossible to tell which one you have so download the latest would be my advice.
    UPDATE (28FEB): Following this video Eachine have added the link to the latest firmware to their site and have committed to continue to improve and optimise the code - see posts below. I'd use the links on then Eachine pages now to get the latest and greatest and keep an eye on the updates as they'll change. I updated on the evening of the 26th Feb using the latest firmware out at that time as shown in the video but not all testers are seeing identical results. Time will tell if this is fixed for everybody but it's good to see Eachine acknowledge the issue and work on a fix...
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  • @eachine3596
    @eachine3596 4 роки тому +27

    Thanks for painless's advice. Eachine's website has been updated

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому +8

      Wonderful! Thank you for listening to the community and making things better! Happy flying!

    • @achogg33
      @achogg33 4 роки тому +2

      Great to hear!

    • @haka8702
      @haka8702 4 роки тому +4

      You don't seem to give any value in your customers.
      I just checked your website and you have a random link to a PDF file which is called "firmware" update.
      It's a file called 'E04940A1-0345-E812-B5F0-E59518B9556B.pdf'
      Inside the PDF is a small link to a google drive container to a random file called 'MERGE.BIN'
      wtf is a "MERGE" file ?
      I'm in software business for 20 years now and even as an untrained novice child I did a better job in that.
      Where is the CHANGELOG
      Where is the VERSION NUMBER
      Where is a DOWNLOAD LIST OF ALL PREVIOUS VERSIONS
      This sort of customer hating behaviour might work in China but it will backfire horribly with western customers.
      We are used to professional conduct, we expect a company to pay attention to details.
      Also as far as I heard the latency issue is still there as on day one, just with PAL camera streams it's in average better with random 100ms spikes.
      That's not a fix, it's a quick hack.
      That's why the firmware is called "MERGE", some random developer just copied it "hey test it, it's a bit better than before"

    • @thanhhuy8481
      @thanhhuy8481 3 роки тому +1

      Hey Eachine,let do something with your trash google . now is 2021 and you aren't have any solution to fix it ?

  • @eachine3596
    @eachine3596 4 роки тому +23

    The firmware will continue to be optimized

    • @leadfoot1131
      @leadfoot1131 4 роки тому +1

      Continued optimisation is great as long as it also includes version control and release notes etc.

    • @Personne303
      @Personne303 4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for the information. Because I'm not the only one who had, besides high latency, white horizontal stripes / dashes in FPV video. Short preview: ua-cam.com/video/V62CMzJppsk/v-deo.html
      Well thank you.

    • @KosherHobby
      @KosherHobby 4 роки тому +1

      when you totally fix that, and i will be ensure in this, i will buy it again! But now my goggles on way back in china, and i waiting full refund for that. Also when you receive it, fix mask, how i made it, in stock it's not comfortable (for all people which use test it) i seen ground in gap. BG (售后同步)Product quality issues 78101706

    • @Personne303
      @Personne303 4 роки тому +1

      @@KosherHobby I have the promise of Eachine's FW optimization - solving / eliminating white flashes in FPV video that bothers me and other Eachine EV300D goggles owners.

    • @KosherHobby
      @KosherHobby 4 роки тому +1

      ​@@Personne303 i guess it's impossible to fix this goggles in short time, for fix it, Eachine must fully rewrite all software code, video processing, osd, and new functions. so we a waiting ev400d3d ;D, Only one perfect! battery box is perfect in ev300d. Eachine if you read it, just start to sell battery box and straps from ev300d separately!

  • @ianbrisky640
    @ianbrisky640 4 роки тому +1

    Painless360 - Thanks again for this followup video. This is obviously a hot topic lately. I updated my black set of EV300d (NTSC) per your instructions. I do seem to have a noticeable improvement in the latency compared to the original factory firmware. The image does appear to flicker bit more then it use to, but does not appear to be consistent. Also possible a ever so slight degradation of the overall image quality, but It does to be as noticeable while flying the whoop around the house. Kudos to Eachine to continue to followup fine tune the firmware!

  • @leadfoot1131
    @leadfoot1131 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Lee, agree with the comments on update management and using the SD card. Nice one !!!

  • @pnwRC.
    @pnwRC. 4 роки тому

    I LOVE your videos! More than once the information you provide in your videos has helped me overcome issues in the RC hobby.

  • @BengalCatChilli
    @BengalCatChilli 4 роки тому +2

    Gal Kremer did the update and found that the latency was fixed, but a strange wobble was introduced. The next update fixed the wobble, but the latency went back up...it also looked like the latency was really only fixed in either pal or ntsc (can't remember which). Quite a strange set of updates :D

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому +3

      Until Eachine use version numbers we are all in the dark. I suspect that the update file has been changed more then we've spotted. Let's hope they improve versioning and release notes moving forward..

    • @BengalCatChilli
      @BengalCatChilli 4 роки тому

      @@Painless360 my thinking is they just sent him the original firmware, which fixed the wobble but broke the latency fix. You're right, it's hard to know either way without proper access. Hopefully a full fix is released soon.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому +2

      My update was applied on the evening of the 26th Feb using the latest. Seems good so far..

    • @achogg33
      @achogg33 4 роки тому

      @@Painless360 Thanks Painless! Mine should arrive next week I'll have the u update file ready on a usb to be uploaded :) did you test in both PAL and NTSC?

  • @cedricleblanc1744
    @cedricleblanc1744 4 роки тому

    Painless thank u for staying the chorus i ordered my 300d after your first video thanks for everything keep it up

  • @PunakiviAddikti
    @PunakiviAddikti 3 місяці тому

    The reason why the SD card won't work for updating is probably because it's only used for the DVR. It's a separate component and a link between the processor and the SD card slot isn't normally required.

  • @TomCatT_
    @TomCatT_ 4 роки тому

    Okay, cool. I’ve wanted to get these for months now and glad I waited.

  • @thanhhuy8481
    @thanhhuy8481 3 роки тому +1

    Hello , lastest firmware is 25/2/2020 and now is 2021, how long ev300D user had to wait for ? Or Eachine just give up and nothing to do ?

  • @rogueFactor
    @rogueFactor 4 роки тому +1

    w00t! thanks for the update to their update!

  • @FPV420.
    @FPV420. 4 роки тому

    Dear Lee, I love your videos. They are so educational.
    Recently I bought a pair of EV300D googles. Previously I had Cyclops v2 and I love them. Only issue with them is the form factor being a bit too bulky so I thought EV300D will solve this issue and they did.
    Now once I got the Eachine googles I tested them and to my surprise I have the following issues:
    - The IPD adjustment does not seem to be spot on. In result I see a bit of a shadow in between. My IPD is 61mm (confirmed by a doctor).
    - Wearing the googles for 10 minutes gives me headache and my vision becomes blurred after removing them (never had issues like this with Cyclops).
    Note: My sight is normal, never wore glasses in my life.
    Have you noticed anything like this while reviewing Eachine EV300D?
    Thank you,
    George

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому +1

      I had something similar when i started using binocular goggles, took me a while to get used to it.. best of luck

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 4 роки тому

    Great job, Lee! Thanks a lot! 😊

  • @budoskolok
    @budoskolok 4 роки тому

    Hi,
    I know it is an old story but is quite hard to follow.
    I was following the story around the EV300D. I wanted to place an order but I heard the latency issue.
    Did somebody received it after this video relase date? How is it performing?
    Was the latest firmware update succesfull?
    I want to place an order on it but I a was quite supprised when I saw the first results.

  • @Shauny_D
    @Shauny_D 4 роки тому

    I’m not only having horrible latency after firmware update but complete blackouts with fully charged batteries and completely red images. Got the goggles brand new today and couldn’t be more disappointed.

  • @gordondmckee
    @gordondmckee 4 роки тому

    Any chance I could try the file you have please? The one on eachine's website doesn't fix it for me. Not sure if the file you used was different to the current eachine fix or not.

  • @George64G
    @George64G 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the Info on these Goggles. Eachine updated there site, but Banggood link isn't working.

  • @williamhoover1515
    @williamhoover1515 4 роки тому

    Do you have extensive flood issues nearby? Are you filming flood areas from above to help neighbors with property insurance issues, crop damage or lost livestock?-Bill

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому

      Not here. Lots of rain and the fields are sodden but no flooding...

    • @bryanbailey9208
      @bryanbailey9208 4 роки тому

      keep it on topic

  • @edcbabc
    @edcbabc 4 роки тому

    There was some talk from others that after a code change, latency was only improved for PAL video transmissions, not NTSC. Since there seem to be several code sets, do you know if that is the case here, or is it now solved for both?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому

      Please see the notes in the video description..

  • @steuibi68
    @steuibi68 4 роки тому

    The second update fix all the problem? (latency +wawe in the sceen.. ) must I download update 1 and 2? Thank s😁👍

  • @h2o-fpv623
    @h2o-fpv623 4 роки тому

    Ok thank u for the info I will update mines . Question I'm going to do my upgrade today I just got the cable now the sd card will be the same we use in the goggles? Or do I need a different one and leave the one in the goggle?

    • @budoskolok
      @budoskolok 4 роки тому

      Did you do the update? Was it succesfull? I am quite nervers to place on order but I like the features.

  • @karlc9773
    @karlc9773 2 роки тому

    I bought ev300d goggles june of this year will the update have been done on my goggles cheers

  • @bobwatson6558
    @bobwatson6558 4 роки тому

    Do you believe this has been fixed I'm thinking about getting them I have 200d
    Now. What do you think.

  • @kevinbernitz6580
    @kevinbernitz6580 4 роки тому +1

    Did you check the video quality while flying? It looks horrible to be. It's jumpy and very noisy. Far worse quality than the (unflyable) high latency version. Oh. And while better latency than the original it's still higher for me than my other goggles (double).

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому

      See the notes in the description...

    • @kevinbernitz6580
      @kevinbernitz6580 4 роки тому +2

      @@Painless360 yeah. I've tested with all versions.
      OG: 100-120ms unflyable latency. Good quality video
      Next version: ~30-40ms on PAL. Good video, but micro freezes and rolling artefacts making unflyable.
      Latest version: ~60ms on PAL. Horrible noisy and jumpy video. (I'm 99% sure this is the same version you tested, but will try again when I'm home later in case there is 3rd update I'm unaware of).

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому

      How odd, I'm getting much less latency on PAL here.. I wonder if there are HW differences too...

    • @KremerFPV
      @KremerFPV 4 роки тому

      @@kevinbernitz6580 Please let me know if you're getting different results. Thanks.

    • @MarkusLutz1504
      @MarkusLutz1504 4 роки тому +2

      ​@@Painless360 I own the EV300D since early Jannuary, and went through 3 firmware versions. I started the hobby a few weeks before getting the EV300D with the EV200D, and now own both. Because of beeing new to it I almost flimed every singe flight I did so far, and the count is now over 600 in total. I own 14 whoops so far (a few meteors with a little soldering jobs done (other vtx), a few other betafpv, Mobula6, Trashcan, Tinyhawk regular and S, ...).
      In regard to the EV300D I can say that the quality is not consistent at all. I sometimes record the same flight with different DVRs (EV200D, EV300D, Eachine 5", Spektrum 4,3", EV800D) I own, and in terms of DVR quality the EV300D seems to be inferior then most others. I suspect that the low bitrate is part of the problem. On the Eachine5" or Spektrum or even the EV800D the bitrate is much higher, and quality is often significantly better!
      At last, I also suspect Eachine to tweak the hardware from batch to batch, so it would be even harder to get usable comparisons, because we never know what revision someone actually is...
      It would be strictly necessary for Eachine to implement a revision system in both hard- an software. I understand if they do not want to publish hardware revisions (this could probably upset some early birds as me), but at least the firmware revisions have to be trackable, and a proper changelog is also absolutely required!
      Thank you for your brilliant work & best regards from Vienna,
      Markus

  • @pinkunwizard
    @pinkunwizard 4 роки тому

    Chinese customer support still has a way to go.

  • @pofotiouzois
    @pofotiouzois 2 роки тому

    Are all issues fixed in 2022?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  2 роки тому +1

      No idea, I'd check the forums and the latest firmware you can find... best of luck

  • @sickvic3909
    @sickvic3909 4 роки тому

    Are these spectacle friendly?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому

      Please see the first look video, I covered all of the specs in there.. They have some impressive adjustment available for the focus.. Happy flying!

  • @NATGEOANDSTUFFPaulbrannan
    @NATGEOANDSTUFFPaulbrannan 4 роки тому

    great video lee

  • @haka8702
    @haka8702 4 роки тому

    It's insane how bad they manage their versions. They simply don't have a version, they just throw firmware binaries out like trash.
    As far as I could read the firmware fix only fixes PAL cameras and is still randomly inconsistent in latency.