It’s simple, the response is to ask the person… ‘Do you believe that God or Jesus has attributes like Knowledge, wisdom, seeing, hearing, etc.’ If they wanna remain consistent, then they don’t believe in a trinity, but rather an extremely high number of Gods or persons. But the fact of the matter is, neither of us believe that. The best analogy to understand multiple attributes is to think about yourself. You are a single unified soul yet you have so many attributes. If you wanna describe one person to another, and do justice to their reality you might say ‘my friend is Smart, funny, kind, respectful, etc.’ Multiple descriptions doesn’t imply that your friend is many people or persons. Multiple attributes is just the reality behind one soul. But kindness and knowledge are not ‘parts’ or persons. So for the sake of human understanding, God describes himself so we get to know him better. But in reality he is one. Multiple attributes is the way for humans to grasp the essence of God. Just like how we convey the essence of people to others thru naming their many attributes and adjectives.
Both the Father and Jesus share the same attributes, because the Son is the express image of the Father. That is why the Son can be called God despite not being God himself.
France has mainland, ambassies, oversee territory. Every person of the trinity is fully God, because certain Checks are set True when testing them. God is infinite, don't limit him. Fun thing is that you an travel to t South American land wihout a passport as a member of EU... Because IT IS FRANCE
The problem with the theses he pressent lise on the differensuation between Gods attributes as good, all powerfull and all knowing and defines them in different persons. That is wrong because the Father is not distinct from the Son and the holy spirit being more or less good or powerfull. The same being that the Father, Son and holy spirit can not controdict with eachother (that being only one is good and other evil or have distict wills) as Jesus says in Joh 5:19 ” Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.” The same attibutes and will of God is find and reveild in Jesus. That is why he says: Joh 14:7 ” If you really know me, you will know my Father as well.”. The Son makes him known says Matt 11:27. Joh 6:46 No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. Joh 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known. Joh 8:23-26 But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that ”I am he”, you will indeed die in your sins.” “Who are you?” they asked. “Just what I have been telling you from the beginning,” Jesus replied: Exo 3:14-15 God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘”I am” has sent me to you.’ ” God also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers-the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob-has sent me to you.’ “This is my name forever, the name you shall call me from generation to generation. So repent and believe in Jesus and repent from your sins.
"whoever has seen the Father has seen me", "I and the Father are one" also the entirety of John 17, he is calling himself the uncreated image of the Father, meaning he can be called God in the same way that your reflection can be called you.
Since the whole thing is imaginary you can't ever resolve it. Just believe in what works for you. If you wish to accept the concept of holy spirit that's fine.
@@brianguerrero4621 Yes he does debates but behind that screen of his and he call people mother's "who..." And dogs do you think he is gonna say these kind of things in front of them He intellect is not even on the level of real debaters what are you talking about man That's not a very christian behavior and you guys follow that kind of person Yes he did these internet debates but avoiding questions all the time I think you haven't seen a real debate go and watch a real face to face debate and see how it looks like
@@brianguerrero4621 Yes the keyboard warrior debates and call people mother's "who..." And people dogs do you really think any body who has a sound mind and believe in bible would do that Wake up man if you think he is representing your religion than man you gotta think about your intellect too And speaking of debate he never done a debate in real life in his life he ran from all of them
@@leogamingyt7453 He isn’t a keyboard warrior , he has done multiple debates live . If a person debates online or in person it has to relevance to what he says
We can be 99% similar but what makes us different is 100% what separates us. The koran presents a religion that wants to cherry pick the existing religions while denying their core message. The koran denies the core message of christianity and thats THE DEATH, RESSURECTION AND ATONEMENT OF SIN BY JESUS. Even if the koran would copy every thing else to make it similar to the bible...it wiuld still be seen as a false gospel as warned by Jesus and the early gospels that you attempt to quote. God of the bible is not the same as the one in the koran....if ever he can be proven to be the same.. Then that deity would be having amnesia and not worth being a deity. Allah to me is a Jehovah/Yahweh wanna-be.
@@SOX-9 Does Allah having a hand make Allah more than one 😂😂😂😂 Just make a better argument bro Don't copy Sam shamoun use your own intellect It's a christian belief that god's attributes have their own minds and they are also separate gods But that's not a Muslim belief Allah has attributes and these attributes are unique to Allah it's simple as that We don't think It's three,three in one like the crap christians put into the bible 300 years after Jesus pbuh
@@leogamingyt7453 you dawah clowns love lying and that is why I know Islam is false. Which Christians believes the there are separate God's beside the One God. Please provide a reference. Do the various perspectives on Allah's hands get discussed under taweheed or are they another topic? I await your lie
@leogamingyt7453 you dawah clowns love lying and that is why I know Islam is false. Which Christians believes the there are separate God's beside the One God. Please provide a reference. Do the various perspectives on Allah's hands get discussed under taweheed or are they another topic? I await your lie
Ma shaa Allah brother Hijab.this is you at your best.this is why Alhamdulillah you have helped me in these matters so much since I became a Muslim
I'm sorry, bro. It sucks, I know.
Welcome to the truth, Allahuma barik❤
The God is One and Only One with all His necessary attributes
Is Allah his attributes, or is he a single unified essence?
How can someone conflate between an attribute of God and God, and consider an attribute of God to be a deity on its own?
Is God made of parts?
@@joshuaparsons887nope
It’s simple, the response is to ask the person… ‘Do you believe that God or Jesus has attributes like Knowledge, wisdom, seeing, hearing, etc.’ If they wanna remain consistent, then they don’t believe in a trinity, but rather an extremely high number of Gods or persons.
But the fact of the matter is, neither of us believe that.
The best analogy to understand multiple attributes is to think about yourself. You are a single unified soul yet you have so many attributes. If you wanna describe one person to another, and do justice to their reality you might say ‘my friend is Smart, funny, kind, respectful, etc.’ Multiple descriptions doesn’t imply that your friend is many people or persons. Multiple attributes is just the reality behind one soul. But kindness and knowledge are not ‘parts’ or persons.
So for the sake of human understanding, God describes himself so we get to know him better. But in reality he is one. Multiple attributes is the way for humans to grasp the essence of God. Just like how we convey the essence of people to others thru naming their many attributes and adjectives.
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Both the Father and Jesus share the same attributes, because the Son is the express image of the Father. That is why the Son can be called God despite not being God himself.
France has mainland, ambassies, oversee territory.
Every person of the trinity is fully God, because certain Checks are set True when testing them.
God is infinite, don't limit him.
Fun thing is that you an travel to t South American land wihout a passport as a member of EU... Because IT IS FRANCE
The problem with the theses he pressent lise on the differensuation between Gods attributes as good, all powerfull and all knowing and defines them in different persons. That is wrong because the Father is not distinct from the Son and the holy spirit being more or less good or powerfull. The same being that the Father, Son and holy spirit can not controdict with eachother (that being only one is good and other evil or have distict wills) as Jesus says in
Joh 5:19 ” Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.”
The same attibutes and will of God is find and reveild in Jesus. That is why he says:
Joh 14:7 ” If you really know me, you will know my Father as well.”. The Son makes him known says Matt 11:27.
Joh 6:46 No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father.
Joh 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
Joh 8:23-26 But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that ”I am he”, you will indeed die in your sins.”
“Who are you?” they asked.
“Just what I have been telling you from the beginning,” Jesus replied:
Exo 3:14-15 God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘”I am” has sent me to you.’ ”
God also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers-the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob-has sent me to you.’
“This is my name forever,
the name you shall call me
from generation to generation.
So repent and believe in Jesus and repent from your sins.
You believe in modalism
you are a heretic dude the father is distinct from the son and the holy Spirit
It's because with Islam you have nothing except Allah.
That would make god contingent.
Your fundamental belief the trinity is not in the bible
Jesus never said I am god
I don't know why christians think they are following the Bible 😂😂😂
"whoever has seen the Father has seen me", "I and the Father are one" also the entirety of John 17, he is calling himself the uncreated image of the Father, meaning he can be called God in the same way that your reflection can be called you.
@@joshuaparsons887 This contradicts the old testament where god cannot be seen.
@@TemanM they're seeing the pre-incarnate Christ, not the Father himself. John 1:18.
In the Battle of Jamal, would you be Shia or Sunni? Ask Allah for the Truth!
Since the whole thing is imaginary you can't ever resolve it. Just believe in what works for you. If you wish to accept the concept of holy spirit that's fine.
Ask Sam shamoum you ran away from him
😂😂😂😂😂the keyboard warrior Sam shamoun really
Your really think that Sam shamoun is actually at the level of literacy of Muhammad hijab😂😂😂
Wake up man
@@leogamingyt7453what are you talking about Sam always does debates
@@brianguerrero4621 Yes he does debates but behind that screen of his and he call people mother's "who..." And dogs do you think he is gonna say these kind of things in front of them
He intellect is not even on the level of real debaters what are you talking about man
That's not a very christian behavior and you guys follow that kind of person
Yes he did these internet debates but avoiding questions all the time
I think you haven't seen a real debate go and watch a real face to face debate and see how it looks like
@@brianguerrero4621 Yes the keyboard warrior debates and call people mother's "who..." And people dogs do you really think any body who has a sound mind and believe in bible would do that
Wake up man if you think he is representing your religion than man you gotta think about your intellect too
And speaking of debate he never done a debate in real life in his life he ran from all of them
@@leogamingyt7453 He isn’t a keyboard warrior , he has done multiple debates live .
If a person debates online or in person it has to relevance to what he says
We can be 99% similar but what makes us different is 100% what separates us. The koran presents a religion that wants to cherry pick the existing religions while denying their core message. The koran denies the core message of christianity and thats THE DEATH, RESSURECTION AND ATONEMENT OF SIN BY JESUS. Even if the koran would copy every thing else to make it similar to the bible...it wiuld still be seen as a false gospel as warned by Jesus and the early gospels that you attempt to quote. God of the bible is not the same as the one in the koran....if ever he can be proven to be the same..
Then that deity would be having amnesia and not worth being a deity. Allah to me is a Jehovah/Yahweh wanna-be.
let me guess you've never read the Quran
Lol. You avoided discussing tawheed in that debate with WLC like bacteria around antibiotic
😂😂😂😂Tauheed is Allah is one what do want to know more😂😂😂
@leogamingyt7453 do you know the different perspectives on Allah's hands?
@@SOX-9 Does Allah having a hand make Allah more than one 😂😂😂😂
Just make a better argument bro
Don't copy Sam shamoun use your own intellect
It's a christian belief that god's attributes have their own minds and they are also separate gods
But that's not a Muslim belief Allah has attributes and these attributes are unique to Allah it's simple as that
We don't think It's three,three in one like the crap christians put into the bible 300 years after Jesus pbuh
@@leogamingyt7453 you dawah clowns love lying and that is why I know Islam is false. Which Christians believes the there are separate God's beside the One God. Please provide a reference.
Do the various perspectives on Allah's hands get discussed under taweheed or are they another topic? I await your lie
@leogamingyt7453 you dawah clowns love lying and that is why I know Islam is false. Which Christians believes the there are separate God's beside the One God. Please provide a reference.
Do the various perspectives on Allah's hands get discussed under taweheed or are they another topic? I await your lie