Now this is an awesome video of some awesome hardware. I had no idea the IIGS could do CD-ROMs! And a Caddy-loader no less. Exceptionally odd, I love it.
I used to have a Plextor SCSI just like that one with caddy (6x awfully slow), playing with old/new hardware was so much fun. Besides, tech stuff was better than today.
I'm amazed at how smoothly you're scrolling around that image at 8:50. I think you said in a previous video that your IIgs is accelerated, but I wouldn't have expected to have been that responsive. I have a ZipGS that runs at 16MHz but I don't really have any software that exercises it like that.
I doubt Apple ever seriously intended to support CD-ROM on the IIGS, as they probably figured at the time (and rightly so) that anyone who could afford a CD-ROM drive and software could also afford a Macintosh to run it on!
The CD-SC/150 uses a non-standard command set for Audio CD playback. The 300 used the standard SCSI2 commands (which the RamFAST has drivers for). Yes, I have played audio CDs on my IIgs/w CD-SC+, its possible! The CD-SC's eject button works on the RamFAST, should on the Apple card too. I think the ";1" at the end of files can be killed by unchecking "add version number to files" when burning a new disc. The only IIgs software I have on CD is the System 6 Golden Master CD, never tried discquest.
@vwestlife CD-ROM support was something that Apple threw at the cantankerous Apple II clingers at the time to quiet them down a bit (I was one of them at the time.) "See? We're still supporting you." There were several pieces of software and hardware for the IIgs that came to life that way--GS/OS 6, the external SuperDrive and its controller card, etc. There really wasn't much of a market into which they were putting that stuff.
I know with many old CD Rom Drives would play audio CDs but would not output it to the system itself and would output sound through its earphone jack instead. when you would normally stick a audio CD in these drives it would automatically start playing it from track 1 and would continue till the end (usually had control buttons). I cant really tell but it seems as this drive doesn't have any control buttons (play, skip and others) so i don't know if this unit would be the same way or not.
@phreakindee I had heard about the Apple IIe and IIGS supporting CD-ROMs but never looked much into it, but after researching it, I was surprised to learn just how supportive it was by being able to play music CDs and some Macintosh and PC software. Just too cool.
@NJRoadfan I read about there being drivers for the RamFast SCSI to make it work with SCSI-II drives, but I have a sandwich II card. I'm glad to get confirmation that the audio CD does in fact work though. I'll keep my eyes open for a RamFAST card or CD 150, whichever I find first :)
@mattj65816 It's true, the accelerated CPU makes picture scrolling a whole lot smoother. You see choppy lines as you scroll through those images in a stock IIGS. I was using a 10MHz ZipGSX in this demonstration.
Interesting. I am trying to add a CD drive to my own IIGS. I don't suppose you know where I could find a copy of GEM, or at least an ISO of the disc. Thanks!
I would like to use the AppleCD 300 with a Macintosh Plus running System 6.0.8. Do you know if this is possible, and if so how? I can't find drivers or setup utility disks anywhere.
@TheFrugalGamer Don't worry, I've never owned an iPod either. Generic mp3 players are way cheaper and I don't use itunes so no point. Also, Apple II computers are the only Apple products I've ever bought, although I have a feeling I will finally cave and get an iPhone soon :)
Now this is an awesome video of some awesome hardware. I had no idea the IIGS could do CD-ROMs! And a Caddy-loader no less. Exceptionally odd, I love it.
I used to have a Plextor SCSI just like that one with caddy (6x awfully slow), playing with old/new hardware was so much fun. Besides, tech stuff was better than today.
I'm amazed at how smoothly you're scrolling around that image at 8:50. I think you said in a previous video that your IIgs is accelerated, but I wouldn't have expected to have been that responsive. I have a ZipGS that runs at 16MHz but I don't really have any software that exercises it like that.
I doubt Apple ever seriously intended to support CD-ROM on the IIGS, as they probably figured at the time (and rightly so) that anyone who could afford a CD-ROM drive and software could also afford a Macintosh to run it on!
The CD-SC/150 uses a non-standard command set for Audio CD playback. The 300 used the standard SCSI2 commands (which the RamFAST has drivers for). Yes, I have played audio CDs on my IIgs/w CD-SC+, its possible! The CD-SC's eject button works on the RamFAST, should on the Apple card too. I think the ";1" at the end of files can be killed by unchecking "add version number to files" when burning a new disc. The only IIgs software I have on CD is the System 6 Golden Master CD, never tried discquest.
WOW, never knew a CD ROM addon was ever available for the II GS (which my parents had). Interesting!
@vwestlife CD-ROM support was something that Apple threw at the cantankerous Apple II clingers at the time to quiet them down a bit (I was one of them at the time.) "See? We're still supporting you." There were several pieces of software and hardware for the IIgs that came to life that way--GS/OS 6, the external SuperDrive and its controller card, etc. There really wasn't much of a market into which they were putting that stuff.
I know with many old CD Rom Drives would play audio CDs but would not output it to the system itself and would output sound through its earphone jack instead. when you would normally stick a audio CD in these drives it would automatically start playing it from track 1 and would continue till the end (usually had control buttons). I cant really tell but it seems as this drive doesn't have any control buttons (play, skip and others) so i don't know if this unit would be the same way or not.
@phreakindee
I had heard about the Apple IIe and IIGS supporting CD-ROMs but never looked much into it, but after researching it, I was surprised to learn just how supportive it was by being able to play music CDs and some Macintosh and PC software. Just too cool.
@NJRoadfan
I read about there being drivers for the RamFast SCSI to make it work with SCSI-II drives, but I have a sandwich II card. I'm glad to get confirmation that the audio CD does in fact work though. I'll keep my eyes open for a RamFAST card or CD 150, whichever I find first :)
@mattj65816
It's true, the accelerated CPU makes picture scrolling a whole lot smoother. You see choppy lines as you scroll through those images in a stock IIGS. I was using a 10MHz ZipGSX in this demonstration.
Interesting. I am trying to add a CD drive to my own IIGS. I don't suppose you know where I could find a copy of GEM, or at least an ISO of the disc. Thanks!
+ThePhilosopherBrony www.apple-iigs.info/logicielsgemcd.php
the disc caddy should have been mandatory -
I would like to use the AppleCD 300 with a Macintosh Plus running System 6.0.8. Do you know if this is possible, and if so how? I can't find drivers or setup utility disks anywhere.
@TheFrugalGamer
Don't worry, I've never owned an iPod either. Generic mp3 players are way cheaper and I don't use itunes so no point. Also, Apple II computers are the only Apple products I've ever bought, although I have a feeling I will finally cave and get an iPhone soon :)
7:00, how much wood...