Derek Kieper was an anti seat belt advocate who believed mandatory seat belt laws represented too much government interference in the lives of everyday Americans.
yep. Just like my friend’s friend -a jeweler who said “I’m NOT letting someone rob me-they will have to pry jewelry outa my cold dead hands. So they found his naked body down by a creek. He was killed because he wouldn’t just hand over the 6 rings he’d been showing off at a party…Mind you he didn’t make high end jewelry-Most of his rings were in the $500-800 dollar range or way less even…Law enforcement finally did prosecute the 3 men who were strangers to him-3 pale men in motorcycles from KC who’d been at the party. I mention their complexions because he was always a bit racist …and assumed my boyfriend and his friend were gonna try and rob him…nope. They weren’t that kind of people.
@@kiyosenl.3889 That's an important thing to note, he never claimed seatbelts were not effective, just that making dangerous decisions that only harmed oneself should be personal choice.
As someone born and raised in USA, I can assure you and your friends that far too many otherwise intelligent Americans will fight increased safety measures as if they are a personal insult. I have no idea why. I've seen it with seat belts, motorcycle helmets, protective gear for rodeo cowboys, protective gear for race car drivers, even baby car seats! I get that some guys don't like change but I would think that they'd like disability or death a lot less. The complaints about car seats I never understood. Who wants to risk their new baby flying through the windscreen at 60mph?? I know how privileged we are to have all this technology available to us. There are some of us out here, so don't give up on us, please.
Europe was the same. I remember my father nagging about it how it was just a way to give oit more fines. He said he drove his entire life without one. The old cars didn't even have them in the back, or sometimes even the passanger side one. My father still sometimes drives without it, although in recent years I haven't seen him do it anymore. He was a cab driver for most of his life
A seatbelt saved my life. I was being a stupid teenager and going way too fast on a wet road. Lost control and skidded sideways into a ditch at 80+ mph. Rolled multiple times. I stayed in my seat the whole time and made it out with nothing but bruises and minor cuts from glass. Please, wear your seatbelt. It's a nearly unnoticeable inconvenience in exchange for saving your life and potentially your passengers as well. Unsecured humans become projectiles in a crash.
Being a European and reading "I was being a stupid TEENAGER and going way too fast on a wet road" just messes with my head. That's not you being stupid (although maybe a bit lol) that's just how teenagers are. And it's DEFINITELY not like people get better at going slow and steady on the road with age
@@VitaeLibra most teenagers do definitely know to drive at a responsible speed, I’d say they were being stupid. Being a teenager doing excuse irresponsible driving.
reminds me of the biker who was against wearing helmets while riding bikes and in his way to a protest or in the protest he got into an accident. and the doctor said he wouldn't be that injured if he was wearing a helmet
TONS of people think seatbelt laws shouldn't exist. However once they accidentally hit someone else who isn't wearing a seatbelt, and GET SUED for the resulting damages, they realise that seatbelt laws are necessary. Without the seatbelt law, anyone who gets in an accident without a seatbelt on "because it should be my choice" will happily SUE for the EXTRA damages that were caused by them CHOOSING not to wear a seatbelt, instead of just ACCEPTING THE FACT THAT THEY CHOSE NOT TO WEAR A SEATBELT AND THUS THE ADDED INJURIES ARE SOLELY THEIR FAULT.
@@jonslg240 that's the thing. Anyone over 18 shouldn't be required to wear one of they don't want to but by not wearing one they should not be allowed to sue nor their family of they die. The insurance also shouldn't have to pay for that person either.
@@chaseviking5096 if the courts worked that way I'd say fine, however they don't. P.S. I'm strongly for personal freedoms and personal responsibility.. Unlike a certain 50% of the population
@@jonslg240 I find it a shame with the way the courts above work. It's no better than let's say a person breaks into your house armed and you are forced to shoot the person. If they live they have a chance of suing you and winning despite the fact they were breaking the law and were going to do you harm. If they die then their family has a chance to sue you despite the fact you defended yourself. The courts need to be fixed on how things like this type of stuff works. You do something you are supposed to or shouldn't be doing because it's either illegal or legal but dangerous then you or your family shouldn't be allowed to sue nor be entitled to insurance compensation. It above all would help make people think twice.
I was t-boned by a truck completely out of the blue two weeks ago. I have a broken rib and a nasty seat belt bruise. That bruise shows me how much that seat belt works.
@@test_account2376 Have you heard of the horror stories of when you get ejected onto pavement at high speed? Not much left to scrape, unless you're the guy on cleanup...
I've been in a couple wrecks. Had my seatbelt on every time. The last one my seatbelt literally came undone as the Corsica I was in was T-boned by a F250 at almost 55-60 mph. The truck hit just a couple inches behind my door which was the back driver side door. I got a very excellent look at the dark green truck with a shiny chrome grill and the blue oval with the word FORD in to which I could see plenty clear enough to read. I'm lucky to be alive. Do to my seatbelt coming undone I bounced around in the backseat like a pinball in a pinball machine. Didn't break anything but I bruised my ribs so badly the doctors were surprised they didn't break and said I would have been better off if they had broke. I have back problems now from that wreck as well and I'm 31 years old. I also have a bit of PTSD from it. I refuse to sit behind the driver anymore and on the rare occasions when I have no other choice I'm extremely nervous to the point I feel like I'm going to hyperventilate and have a panic attack.
Yup! I'm the obnoxious driver who won't move my car until all passengers are buckled. I straight up tell people that they can disregard their own safety, but they're not endanfering me or my (also buckled) dogs, and end it with "Secure your mass."
I remember tv ad from when I was a kid in Ireland that showed that very scenario. It opens with "this is Michael and today he's going to hit his girlfriend so hard she ends up with permanent brain damage". My skin crawls remembering the crack when his head slams into his girlfriends
honestly i think this is why seat belts are mandatory, not because of the potential for yourself to die, but to injure or kill others. The government already allows tobacco, drugs (in some places), and committing seppuku isn't disallowed either. You are ultimately responsible for yourself, but it is a bad idea to entrust the safety of others on all members of the population. Some are just too irresponsible and negligent.
The problem isn't that Derek won the Darwin Award, the problems are: 1) His passengers and the drivers around him had to witness what was probably a gory, terribly violent death that likely traumatized them for a while. He mentally scarred people. 2) The first responders that went to the accident could have spent their time responding to other emergencies instead of scraping Derek's dumb ass off the icy pavement. He wasted public safety resources. 3) It takes longer to clean up a corpse and a car wreck than it takes to clean up just a car wreck. The traffic he caused was worse than it could have been. This could have had a far reaching impact and it's impossible to say how much harm was done, but almost certainly there was some negative economic impact. He made the economy worse. Sure some of these effects are tiny, but they exist and they add up. And that's why we have seatbelt laws. Not so Derek can get home safe to write his dumb articles, but so that people like Derek don't ruin society for the rest of us.
This, laws for stuff like this, drunk driving, vaccines, face masks, etc are primarily made to minimize the collateral damages of stupid people's mistakes rather than protect them specifically (although they do also serve that purpose)
@@valerial9081 stay triggered and mentally inept, please keep declaring painfully obvious things. What makes you think I give two turtle shits about any of your opinions? Main character syndrome? Keep your trap shut.
Fun fact: in the last libertarian national convention a candidate was severely booed for stating that he believes people should pass driving tests before being able to get a driver’s license
Honestly this should be extremely telling as to just how worthless libertarianism is to anyone capable of even the smallest shred of critical thinking.
@@Sebisajiminstan you do, but a policy some libertarians want to push is the abolishment of driver’s licenses, citing they are “too much government involvement and regulation” and that everyone should be free to drive as they wish, even if they aren’t capable of driving safely
So what if his body had hit a car in the opposing lane, leading to the demise of that car's passengers. Then it is not only consequences of his own. Now others have to pay for his foolishness as well. Laws doesn't always exists to suppress. But they are often a weighing between individual rights and the good of the collective.
@@affugter you could make that argument for any object in the car. “What if his dog was in the back and was ejected and hit a car in the opposite lane?” His ignorance to wear not a seatbelt is stupid. His argument for government interference however still holds true.
@@thediver7187 that is why you in Denmark are required by law to secure your dog to the seat or to the truck (or have a cage wall between the passenger section and the trunk. So in the case of an accident your dog will not hit you or others.
He was advocating against giving the police another arbitrary reason to pull you over and infringe on freedom of travel. You germans used to bend over for the gestapo-no one expects you to understand
Sadly Americans think anything helpful or beneficial is either a psyop, part of a larger conspiracy to “control” them, unconstitutional, communism, etc. etc. Americans laugh at each other for wearing masks when other countries have been doing that as a norm for decades. A bunch even believe the world wide pandemic was planned by the government to control them. That one gets me cause how the hell would the U.S. government even be able to ruin billions of lives around the world just so that they can have more control over their own population? Weird that they would affect the entire world just to go after roughly 330 million Americans.
Seatbelts remind me of helmets of WW1. At first high command was concerned because more soldiers were reporting injuries, but then they realized that more people were alive to report them
Reminds me of the study done on ww2 aircraft and where planes were being shot up on their return home. Initially designers thought they needed to reinforce the places where they had been shot. But then reevaluated noting that they should reinforce the parts where that wasn’t the case, since those planes weren’t returning back from the mission to report on the issue 😂
wait a minute... there were misgivings about the effectiveness of helmets in a war zone?? The place where there's flying debris and bullets and shrapnel.
I worked at 911 for 10 years. Most of the people killed in accidents were ejected. I got so many calls from people in terrible accidents who were still suspended upside down in their rolled vehicle, terrified but uninjured. On another note, if you have life insurance for your family, WEAR YOUR SEAT BELT. Many life insurance policies have fine print stating they won't pay out if you die in an accident while not wearing a seat belt.
Can confirm. I was a firefighter/emt, and I also dispatched. I didn't know about the insurance thing, but I can promise that it's a damned stupid thing not to wear one's seat belt. It's right there for you. You don't have to go buy and install it. It's right fkn there, and can absolutely mean the difference between your living and dying, or the quality of your life after surviving the accident.
@Malus the government doesn't want to pay to scrape your mangled ass off the road. Your "choice" endangers other drivers and races up stupid amounts of taxpayer money. It costs almost a million bucks to pay all those employees to deal with your accident or death (most likely). Oppositional defiance disorder isn't really a good reason for draining money that could be put to better causes. It's also a bad reason to potentially endanger other people who are possibly harmed by your projectile ass when you die that way. Non seatbelt wearers make their personal problem everyone else's. If a person dies in such an easily preventable way, they could change a "stupidity tax" on the corpses estate to cover the costs.
I know Milton Friedman had a quote about this exact thing, something along the lines of “ We shouldn’t have to wear a helpmate because the government mandates we do, we should wear one because it’s common sense”
Not necessarily. Notice that the crash was a multiple rollover, even with a seat belt that type of crash has a very high fatality and/or serious injury rate. He may have been killed anyway, or so horribly maimed that he would rather have died. The point is, he was right, he had a right to decide if he wore his seat belt or not, and his not wearing it does not make you or I any less safe on the road. Therefore, there is very little reason that the government should be able to hold a gun to our head or beat us into compliance.
@@rouxtube550 Now you are talking out your ass. Plenty of rollovers happen with people wearing seatbelts, and having or not having it on is only rarely, if ever, going to save your ass from a rollover. The driver has usually lost control to the point where a rollover will happen (especially with a high profile vehicle, which ARE something the government should probabally ban) long before they have moved enough to be unable to manipulate controls.
Life insurance policies do pretty thorough checks before issuing policies. There's no shot he would have been allowed to take one. I also doubt this is the kind of guy who believes in insurance.
@Bane Tinker My cousin used to sell life insurance and when I was a teen, my mother started the paperwork to buy a life insurance policy for me. You can buy one for a child because a child can't do things like drive a car. They're not doing things to intentionally jeopardize their lives like this idiot.
I don’t think I could not wear a seatbelt if I tried. I’m so conditioned to put it on, that I’ll automatically end up buckled even if I’m just starting my car to warm it up.
I agree. I am at the tail end of teaching my daughter to drive. She is ready to go for her driving test to be able to drive on her own. Part of that is that the instructors check that all passengers are wearing seatbelts, so sometimes don't put their seatbelts on to test the driver. To prepare her, I sometimes would not put on my seatbelt, but noticed how hard that habit is to break, even intending to not put my seatbelt on I would automatically just put it on as a reflex.
My mom always made certain her kids wore their belts before she'd even start her car. That saved my life about twenty years later, when a guy fell asleep at the wheel and crashed his car right into the rental van I was driving. Both vehicles were a total loss. The car hit directly where I was sitting and hit so hard the axel right under my seat was thrown across the intersection! Both myself and the guy that hit my car were just fine. Airbags and seat belts saved us both and we both walked away from the accident.
I was thrown from my car in 1984 before it was the law to wear a seat belt. Almost lost a arm Started wearing belt after that. People would make smart ass remarks about me putting belt on knowing what had happened to me. 🤦♂️
Yep! My dad is notorious for not buckling up, and I always remind him (he’s gotten better over the years). It’s not that he doesn’t like them, just that he forgets/it’s a habit from when he was a kid.
I got in an argument with my brother over this when I first started driving. We argued for two minutes sitting in the driveway until he finally gave in to my demands. 😂
@@qualalampFOOBOOairpillowsvolun Fuck around and find out is define as, "taking a dangerous or foolish action with consequences the individual may not be ready for." While it is often used in a 1v1 scenario, and popularized as such, it can be used in a vernacular/jargon that refers to the situation at hand rather than a perceived individual. In the case of Derek, he chose to not wear a seatbelt while driving his vehicle (fucked around) and therefore died in the resulting accident (found out).
Seatbelts saved me, my mom, and my two brothers when we were hit by a drunk driver and rolled a couple times. Scariest moment of my life but thankfully we all had our seatbelts on which definitely saved our lives.
Seatbelts do so much! So many people are sharing seatbelt stories. Saved my head from hitting the windshield when a patch of ice lead to me sliding through a red light. Foot was shattered from me hitting the break so hard during a front end impact and had seatbelt bruises but no concussion or other head injuries thanks to all the vehicle safety devices like seatbelts. A lot more would have been shattered than my foot without a seatbelt.
Doesn't mean government should force people to wear them. NOW if you want to force people to wear them in YOUR car.. have at it. I make my kids wear them when I drive. But honestly I don't have the energy to care if you live or die based upon your own decisions. and I don't want to force you to do or not do anything. Simply do not hurt people and don't take their stuff and I'll be happy.
@@TedSchoenling you've never had to go to an accident where somebody has died or been critically injured I guess. If you had, you would definitely agree with those laws. In my home state of Tennessee, if you or somebody in your car isn't wearing a seatbelt, you get a ticket. Click it or ticket as they say. Is that government overreach? Not in my mind.
I used to work for the Highway Division during university. One of my duties was to file reports and PHOTOS of accident fatalities. I’ll ALWAYS wear a seatbelt.
I don't let anyone in my own vehicle not wear a seatbelt because of the EMTs who have told me how often a person without a seatbelt kills other people when their body flies into them during a crash. That is the real reason why it's the law. It's not only your own life that is put at risk!
@D Cup yup, I saw a reenactment where the person without the seatbelt flew all over the car and his body killed all his friends and he survived. Was horrifying. Definitely convinced me to wear a seatbelt.
@@Hiraghm - So is paying insurance. So is taking the licensure test and registering your car. So is keeping your car lights, flashers and blinkers in working order. All those are choices. They are also the law. You see, that is where the logic over this whole argument fails. Unless you folks are going to go rogue the whole way over public safety (which is silly), then your argument over wearing/not wearing a seat belt is moot. At the core of this argument is this arrogant, tough guy/gal warped sense of “freedom” that is centered solely on the individual. Me, me, me, me, me. You know, I’m all for freedom. But there is freedom and there are rights. When my “freedom” impinges on the rights of others (including their right to safety or their right not to be traumatized or deal with the deeply negative consequences of my actions), that’s where my freedom has limits. There is a mountain of evidence proving belts save both the user’s life AND the lives of others involved. Beyond the human life issue, there are other factors. For example, there’s significantly less road closure time and far less resources expended to deal with the aftermath. And I haven’t even mentioned psychological trauma. When one examines all the fallout not wearing a belt produces, it goes far beyond your death or how it impacts only YOU.
I was in a rollover accident when I was 21. All three people in our car were belted. Minor injuries. I do not allow anyone to be a passenger in my car without a seatbelt.
I'm glad everyone ended up ok. Had a friend whose boyfriend piled into an already full car. He wasn't wearing a seatbelt he was ejected and decapitated during the rollover. Everyone else was fine because they all had seatbelts. His gf was the EMT who arrived on the scene. Seeing his head like that pushed her into drugs to deal with it and she ended up overdosing and dying. While working the ER I had a family of people come in at once. It was a man that was backing out of the driveway so the mom and dad could switch which car was out closest to the road, so he wasn't wearing a seatbelt since it was a "quick car change". He had the window down and was talking to his wife and kids in the driveway as he backed out and was T boned and the car pushed down a few houses because the other car was speeding so much. The kids went running to dad's car and one was hit by another car. Both dad and kid died. Seatbelts save lives and not just the lives of the people inside the car. I refuse to even start the car until everyone is clicked in. Edited to add: the dad died because being slammed into at 50 miles an hour pushed his body halfway out the open car window. When the car rolled on its side it crushed him. The kid died from traumatic brain injury - the 3rd car on the scene was rubbernecking at the accident that just happened and didn't notice the kids running into the street and hit all 3 of them to varying degrees. He was the youngest and smallest and I think the front end of the car was probably at head height and between the car hitting and him bouncing off the pavement that's what did it probably. I didn't witness the scene so I don't know.
In my country it‘s actually the responsibility of the driver that everyone inside the vehicle is belted. You get the fine if someone is not and in case one of your passengers dies during a crash, you are at fault or at least partially at fault. And yet once in a while you can see kids jumping about in vans on the highway, where people can go as fast as they want (or actually „as traffic allows“, but we all know that people who speed have different interpretations of ‚suitable traffic‘). It‘s insane.
A friend of mine in jr. high was in a car that rolled. She had a few bruises from the belt but was totally fine. We couldn’t believe she came to school the next day. The car she was in was rear ended and pushed off the freeway which was on a hill so they ended up rolling down the hill and it flipped at some point. I was shocked that besides a few bruises no one was seriously injured. All wearing seatbelts. If they hadn’t you know someone would have been thrown from the car and died…I don’t understand people who think seatbelts are oppressive.
@@JanBruunAndersenyes like speed limits we should get rid of those, and stop signs why should we stop at those. Genuinely these laws are meant to keep you safe if you don't want to follow it look at the consequences from this video and from all the comments above.
I can't argue with him, he was not criticizing the safety aspect of seat belts, only the personal freedom infringement involved in mandatory use of them, and he died a free man.
At least a good 30-40 percent of the population will always fight for the right to do the wrong thing. You can always count on someone fighting real hard to make things worse.
No seat belt requirement, nor helmet for motorcycles. But... you get a letter code on your license like "Glasses" Y/N and "Organ Donor" is a mandatory "Yes". Choosing the right to wear no seat belt or helmet will be disclosed to your auto and health insurer and you are EXEMPT from EMTALA laws requiring hospitals to stabilize you. You further acknowledge any life-saving measures beyond your high cost insurance limits will be paid for with any assets you own including your home and you agree to have your wages garnished. How many of these freedom-lovin' Americans are on board to sign? Death is one thing, permanent poverty and potential homelessness? Yikes.
As a former car seat tech- I learned that the danger of someone not wearing a seatbelt is not actually just to themselves. A large heavy object like a human (or unsecured cargo) can and does kill other occupants in the vehicle. Not everyone is ejected and just dies from their own choice. I’ve seen some gnarly crash footage. 😢
Ooh...that's a good argument for seatbelt laws right there. I did lean more on the side of thinking seatbelt laws were a bit of overreach (although you still should wear your seatbelt, and I always do), but I think that's tipped me back in the other direction.
And you're strapped there while stuff is flying around. You can't even curl properly to protect yourself. And everybody has projectiles all over their cars, down to their travel mugs.
@@kelf114 although you can mentally picture it that way, that’s not how it works in collisions according to decades of research, police and hospital records of actual damage, injuries and crash patterns. We also have decades of crash test footage in every imaginable scenario. You are not able to curl up, brace yourself or otherwise in a real life collision. The seatbelt prevents whiplash, head injury, ejection and a multitude of other common results of crashes. And yes, they also prevent injuries to the other occupants of the car- based on the facts. A full travel mug or cell phone flying might give you a black eye or other relatively minor injury (compared to death). A full human can kill. This information is readily available if you’d like to Google car safety. I’m going to enjoy my sunny Sunday afternoon now. Take care.
there are times where we should applaud sticking by one's morals. there are also times where we should tell somebody they're being a fucking moron and that their moral is not worth standing by if it's gonna cost you your life.
If you pay attention to the story. You'll see his right to not wear a seat belt was actually not infringed by these tyrannical seatbelt laws. Important lesson, but most people will just take away "haha better trust the govt"
Everyone in this thread managed to miss the entire point. He was right. He still is right. They have no right to tell you that you have to wear a seat belt. He still could have. I know that every time we let the government have such individual control over people, it is a mistake. I would wear one for myself. No one has the right to tell me I must or I get a ticket and a fine. That's insane. What purpose does it serve? I have every right to die if I do something unsafe by choice, it's stupid to try and regulate that as the federal government. The government carries two purposes. The protect the property of individuals from other individuals and corporations. And to deliver swift justice. The government in the US barely succeeds at the first and never does the second.
@@jiaan100When you use your freedom to risk your life for no possible gain you will often end up with the absolute freedom of the void of death and nothing else. This has less to do with the government and more to do with the common sense of following safety guidelines, not because the government says to but because it's the only intelligent option.
I remember an add from when I was a kid here in the UK about seatbelts. I mother was driving her teenage kids, daughter next to in the passenger seat and son sitting behind her, the mother and daughter were both wearing their seatbelts while the son wasn't. When they got hit from behind the force of the impact threw the son against his mother's seat hard enough that the seat dislodged and said mother was crushed against the front of the car and killed instantly. The son seemed to just have a bloody nose and the daughter was screaming in horror. The point being that seatbelts don't just protect you, but other people in the car.
That's a traumatic memory you just unlocked! If I recall correctly the setup was something like a happy family scene and the voiceover started saying he was going to kill his mother?
To be fair, people who get scammed do so willingly. If you choose to trust someone as an adult, you should accept the consequences of that trust. We should stop making laws against scammers.
@@nuknukisdeadnot in any way equivalent. That is one perso taking advantage of another person rather than one acting stupid of their own accord and then facing consequences. That's like seeing someone trip over their own shoelaces because they refuse to tie them and then you saying "tripping people is fine because they chose to walk there, so they have to face the consequences of me tripping them"
Well, your ejected body can be a danger to other drivers and pedestrians. I don’t know about you but I’d rather not have a soon-to-be corpse fly through my windshield
@@deku976but his act of stupidity could easily kill someone. Your seat belt helps you yes, but it protects others in the car and around your car when you are ejected.
I used to have to tell my husband exactly this all the time! YOU may not want to be restrained, but me and these 3 kids do not want you flying into US when you become a weapon!!
I suspect that's a valid, but minor point in the debate. My position is that I think you have to be a idiot or one step shy of suicidal to not where a seat belt; the data on how much they improve safety is way to persuasive to not overcome the very minor cost of using them. ... That said; I don't think "but if we don't, people will do idiotic things" is a sufficient reason to pass laws. At a minimum, there should be a requirement to show likelihood of harm to someone else.
@Benjamin Shropshire and this is why we have as many people as we do. We should stop trying to protect stupid people from themselves and let natural selection do its job Besides, the best way to not get injured or killed in an accident is to not get in the accident in the first place. If someone wasn’t wearing a seatbelt and gets injured or killed in an accident, the person responsible for it should always be the person who caused the accident. No accident and the seatbelt is a moot point Yes, seatbelts should be installed in vehicles and minors should be required to wear them (not old enough to consent to the risks). But the government shouldn’t be requiring them for adults
@@nicholasselke5214 words of wisdom; don’t do the thing that causes the thing 🤣 except that is why it is an accident lol. Not someone purposefully ramming your car like we are at a carnival playing bumper cars 💀
@@SeraphsWitness I'm not anti seatbelt either but I absolutely hate that government tells us that 60% of accident deaths have been unbuckled this year meaning that wearing a seat belt is only helping 20% of accidents and people who were terrible at math and comprehension think the seat belt is the magical device that saved them
@@PJMontoya for every statue like that there would a statue where my cousin lived because she was thrown from the car before the car landed upside down on a rock that crushed the roof THROUGH the driver seat. Seat belts are injury mitigation devices and we should focus on injury prevention( safe driving) far more than minimizing injury once accidents happen due to personal negligence(very few accidents are caused by machine failure)
I remember a discussion in high school where a girl told me she would be safer being ejected from the vehicle in a crash and that's why she wouldn't wear a seatbelt. She was in a crash where she was partially ejected and the truck rolled over on her and killed her.
I thought he was going to be killed by someone else who wasn't wearing a seatbelt and hit him. Because that's exactly why his point doesn't hold up. It's not about "individual rights"; it's about not endangering other people.
Do you have any real world examples of that happening? I haven't seen any, and a less than 1 percent chance of something happening doesn't make it a valid argument for a law. Laws are enforced through implied violence. Why do you think you have a right to threaten others over a hypothetical?
@@99EKjohnI live right next to a cross section. Everyone thats had a crash here with a seatbelt? Injured but fine. The one time someone didn't? Laying on my neighbors front yard. Do you have any proof what your claiming is a 1% chance?
@@hellishthehellrellish5672 it's an easy Google search away, just do the math, only a handful of people are injured from unbelted people a year, but there are millions of car accidents. UA-cam doesn't allow links, you should know this. do you have anything besides an irrelevant antidotal example that is not verifiable, and by your own admission didn't hurt anyone but the unbuckled person? Go ahead and post your address so I can verify your claims.
I agree with the guy that forcing people to wear seat belts is over-reaching by the government, That said, I ALWAYS buckle up because it's the smart thing to do.
@@lynnw7155 bro it's a safety measure not only for you, but for others, as your body could become a projectile that could crash on other cars and cause EVEN MORE damage when you don't wear a seatbelt. Why are Americans SO obsessed with "fReEdoM" that they think laws and regulations exist to "take away their rights"? What's that obsession with being so self absorbed that only you matter and not how your actions may impact others, especially something as stupid as NOT wearing a seatbelt?
@@decwowHe's not wrong. Us Americans are needlessly stubborn on shit that just doesn't matter lol. The pandemic really highlighted how selfish and self-absorded a lot of Americans are.
There was a female politician in Florida who fought to change the helmet laws in Florida so they weren't required for riders over 21. Two weeks after the change had successfully been made she was killed riding passenger on a motorcycle in an accident and doctor's said she could have survived if she had been wearing a helmet
@@billsanders5067 Actually it could. Imagine a rider goes down and hits his head and goes unconscious in the middle of the road. A car approaching does not see his lifeless body laying there until its too late and swerves to avoid hitting him and slams into a guardrail sustaining injuries along with the damage to the car. Had the biker had a helmet he might have been able to get up and walk away before the car approaches thus the driver would not have had to swerve. There are many other situations with bikers where the biker can injure or kill someone in a car. Also how can not wearing a seatbelt endanger others. Oh I know, the driver gets ejected from the vehicle and his lifeless body ends up getting thrown into the path of oncoming traffic causing the driver to swerve to avoid hitting him and crashing...just as in my biker scenario. In the end helmets and belts can potentially save not only the life of the person using them but the life of an innocent driver who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Also lets not forget the fact that injury claims on auto and motorcycle insurance effects the rates for everyone. Helmets and seatbelts reduce injury thus help keep rates lower.
@@adamn7516 agreed seat belts and helmets are a good idea and anyone with room temperature IQ should wear them. But I’m not going to advocate forcing people over the age of 18 at the end of a government gun to do something for their own good. If they want to die in a roll over they have that right. Though there is a much stronger cause for seatbelt laws as a flying person could easily injure or kill the other passengers
unfortunately, i knew someone who flat out refused to wear his seatbelt. he was driving like a fool one day, tried to pass in a no passing zone and had a horrible accident. our friend who was wearing his seatbelt only suffered a broken arm but our friend who was driving and not wearing his was killed. the really tragic part of the story is that his wife was also in the car with them and she didn't have her's on either. they both died and now three little boys are growing up without their parents. just wear your damn seatbelt.
I'm sorry they had to go through that trauma, but hopefully they are now being cared for by people that will raise them with better guidance at the very least. I hope they live good lives.
@@adesuwa9112 very sad. The two youngest are doing well but the oldest is having some issues. I can only imagine what long-term effects such a tragedy will have.
I don't know why people choose these hills to die on (pun not intended). Is wearing a seatbelt really government tyranny? Is it that big of a deal to wear your seatbelt?
Yeah, he actually believed people should make decisions about their lives themselves instead of the government making them for them. What a crazy relic.
1972 _ cross-country road trip from Seattle to Baltimore in a Ford Country Squire station wagon. I even rode in the jump seat, for part of the journey. There were lap belts, but no laws to use them - we didn't.
Doesn't matter if you think this won't wont happen. he knodded to the reaper. you just except what happens and keep doing what is important to you despite the risk to be free. I understand I ride a motorcycle with no seat belt lmao
That’s what has to happen to people with that mindset. Something tragic. Seems dropping your ego, learning to have empathy, and getting some humility has a much better outcome.
The thing that makes me remember to wear a seatbelt was hearing a police officer talk about how hard it was to report deaths to loved ones when the person dead could have still been alive if they had been wearing a seatbelt.
So seatbelt laws don’t make you wear one, the idea of dying if you don’t wear one does… interesting… there’s almost no need for a law requiring a seatbelt or people just use common sense
Not making a law means it can’t be enforced. And before you ask why it should be enforced: think of the mental toll on people who witness these deaths, survive these accidents, are family members, see the body etc. Stupidity doesn’t give you the right to scar someone for life.
What's the stupid game? The dude practiced what he preached, which shows more conviction than anything you've ever done. I wish I could give you a wedgie for typing that attention seeking comment.
Seat belts, especially automatic 3-point belts are probably the greatest safety advancement in motor car history. Even if you hit your head on the steering wheel or dashbord, or the engine gets rammed through the floor, a seatbelt will probably still save your life. God save the inventors of seat belts.
Unfortunately sometimes it’s not just the anti seatbelt advocate who dies . A woman I worked with lost her daughter when a man ( the passenger ) was not wearing his seat belt . The driver collided with a barrier so hard the passenger flew through his wind shield and through the driver side window of the young womans car as she at a red light . The force of his head hitting hers destroyed her brain function . She died several days later . He lived ….
@@tigrehermano - And if he hadn't been wearing a seatbelt, I'm sure he would've died too. Seatbelts save lives of the people inside the vehicle, they do not magically improve or correct the driving style of the vehicle owner. Hopefully, he was charged for manslaughter.
I'm curious... if a person is in a no fault accident (no one's drunk or crazy or texting or speeding - there's just a collision.) If another person in the crash dies, in the other car or a passenger of yours, how is the seatbelt issue applied to possible liability? Like if the deceased wasn't wearing a seatbelt, and in this case would certainly have survived if they'd been secured properly, does the surviving driver get punished for the error or the outcome? It's odd to express because I never thought of this until now... but I guess I'm saying I wonder if civil or criminal consequences might be rather different on a person when the was a death. I'm not trying to sound terrible I swear, but I mean... like it's not fair if you are in a collision and if the person wore a belt and survived you'd get points on your license or fined or have to take a class or whatever, but because that person who died was irresponsible or reckless or lazy or for whatever reason (having nothing to do with YOU or your conduct) and they're gone, you could be possibly criminally charged or face much, much harsher consequences than if the person behaved reasonably and wore their seatbelt. I hope this makes some sense. I never thought of this before so I'm struggling to be coherent!
@@MeganVictoriaKearns you simply can’t force anyone to do anything, but you can always recommend them all to use the seatbelt. And even refuse to drive if they don’t use it.
The effectiveness is not in question here, it's whether you're a free man who controls his life or a government controlled bot doing your job as tax cattle?
I've done some practice in the ER room. Can confirm. Every single night I've been there there was at least 2 cases of driving accident related injuries.
@@MMathis Irresponsible parents are one of my least favorite things on this planet. Someone's kids shouldn't get hurt because their parent(s) was/were too inconvenienced to buckle a few seats in.
Seatbelts, much like laws are about reduction, not prevention. Wearing a seatbelt will not always make sure you survive, but it does attempt to keep you alive.
Untethered people become projectiles in car crashes. The people in the car with him are lucky the angle of impact threw him out of the vehicle instead of into one of them. And now instead of first responders coming upon an accident where all occupants survived, they have to have the traumatic experience of scraping a mangled corpse off of the pavement, and the state where he was driving had the added expense and equipment to clean up a fatal crash instesd of one where everyone survived. No, the seatbelt law isnt just about the person wearing it.
@@John_Buck any lack of consistency between motorcycle laws and car laws doesn't negate a single one of my points. Weve also never lived through a time where the number of motorcycles on the road has ever come close to cars. The same is true for the odds car occupants could projectile into one another versus the odds a motorcyclist projectiles into your car and hits an occupant inside. If those numbers and subsequent odds change, you'll likely see more urgency to update motorcycle laws too. And I will make the same points for helmet laws. Crashes don't just require state funding and resources for emergency rescue. Fatal crashes require in depth investigations, where the people who caused the crash usually aren't billed for that. The states that don't require helmets should do so for the same exact reasons.
@@Angry20Something It negates the whole point of seat belt laws. Plain and simple. If the argument is that I'll become a projectile in my car being unbuckled then that should apply to someone who has nothing around them and no seatbelt. Who is more likely to suffer a fatal crash? An auto occupant or a motorcyclist? Yep, bikers are cool though, right? Leave them alone because you really care about everyone's safety. Right? Am I right?
When I took my driving license my group was required to sit in a car mounted to a mechanical arm that would slowly turn it upside down. This happened after we had to watch a compilation of videos showing gruesome accidents where the occupants would've survived had they worn seatbelts. It gave us all a massive appreciation for seatbelts. Also, three-point seatbelts were invented by a man from my country who worked at Volvo and he let all car manufacturers copy his invention for free in order to save lives.
When i took my license we were put in a "crash simulator" which was just a seat with a belt that went from 4kmh/2,5mph to 0 instantly. The force generated even from such a low speed was shocking, it didn't stop me from driving like an idiot, but it did make me automatically put on the seatbelt as soon as i step in a car no matter who is driving and how far the trip is.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 how does the death of the car passenger benefit society? That is why there are rules the mandates seatbelts (and so infringe on personal freedom). To make sure the people making up said society is a bit safer when driving cars.
@@affugter That's too vague and nebulous. Why not apply that reasoning to unhealthy foods? Obesity is a much bigger drain on society than unbuckled drivers. And yes I realize that this comment is a year old.
I get the idea of "the government shouldn't keep you from doing something stupid if it only hurts yourself" but at least acknowledge that not wearing a seatbelt is stupid.
@@specialneedsmolester1957"rights" mean nothing. They're decided by the powerful. The only thing that matters is power. So yes, they certainly can and do decide that.
The same as I think riding a motorcycle, or going up in a hot air balloon, or getting fucking hammered on your 21st birthday is stupid All.things I've done, all risky, all very fun/beautiful/exhilarating.
@@GaryM67-71 Being free means making an informed choice regardless of what you've been told. Not cutting off your nose to spite your face, if the government says "don't swallow broken glass" and you feel compelled to immediately run out and do the opposite you are no more free from control and are an idiot.
I agree with you comment, you make so much sense. It’s true- other ppl have to suffer for anti regs just so they can have what they want. “ they want to get all the benefits of a government without giving anything in return. The libertarian doesn't have to follow any rules but everyone else needs to follow lots of rules to make sure the libertarian is comfortable and happy at all times. It's the political ideology of a toddler.”
it's not inconsistent with his position, and in fact he could also wear the seat belt while making the same argument... accident proves nothing, especially considering he said explicitly "no matter the consequences"
Ummmm, it was the tires. I owned a Ford Explorer (on the list for one of the longest running cars) for over a decade. One of the best vehicles I've ever owned. And I live in VERY hilly area.
Yes it was stupid not to wear a seatbelt but the problem is the government is FORCING us to wear seatbelts, everyone here is missing the message he was preaching
Nah its not really that stupid to say the government shouldn’t make laws where you would only harm yourself if you dont abide by them. Its like banning self harm its a weird takeaway of simple liberties
@@watsoncouch3800 except you don't just hurt yourself. if you have passengers in your car, and you get in an accident, you become an active danger to them. (possibly even more dangerous than simply getting in the accident itself, depending on how it happened.)
I was around in the beginning of seat belt laws, and people here in Texas were sometimes willing to go to jail, rather than wear one. What convinced me was when my cousin had a wreck, going 30mph, and broke her nose. I decided I wasn’t going to risk my face getting messed up, and used my seatbelt religiously, from then on.
I had a wreck when I was 19 and wasn't wearing my seatbelt and I slammed my head against the windshield shattering it. My gf was wearing hers and she suffered an ankle injury from her tensing up her legs and her collarbone was bruised but she was fine. I didn't sustain any injuries but I wear my seatbelt to this day now at 48yrs old.
Right, you chose to do so yourself. That’s the point. You saw the consequences and decided that it’s not worth the risk and started wearing your seat belt. That’s exactly what this guy was arguing for.
@@ryanbolson23 ok, but what if you're riding in the back during the incident, and you end up decapitating someone in the front seat (which has been shown in crash tests)? Not that I think a body ejecting through the windshield doesn't create hazards for others near by.
@@kellywalker1664 I’m not arguing wether or not wearing a seatbelt is the correct decision, that’s irrelevant to his argument. It’s an apples to oranges. His argument is the government shouldn’t govern what decisions you can make for your own safety. Having lose objects in your car during the moment of a crash can equally cause harm or decapitation, but there’s not a law about that is there? There’s not governmental powers searching cars and giving tickets for having potentially dangerous inanimate objects laying loose in the back seat in case you get in a high speed rollover accident, not that I’m aware off.
@@ryanbolson23 That was my motivation, at first. When I got older, I had a more compelling reason. When you have a seatbelt on, you’ll be more likely to keep control of your car in a tight spot. You won’t be at the mercy of inertia. If you do have a wreck, and you have your seatbelt on, you do not become a flying projectile, endangering other people. It’s not just my choice. It’s my responsibility to others.
One of my ex girlfriends genuinely believed there was no evidence that seatbelts worked so she refused to wear them. Honestly learning that about her was one of the main reasons I started severely losing attraction to her
One of the most if not a THE most important safety features in a vehicle, and so many people can’t take one second out of their day to use it. I don’t even have to think about it anymore, it’s just muscle memory.
@@TSmith0048 it's just their mentality: "Ohh it won't happen to me I'll never be in a crash" "god will protect me" "seatbelts won't help anyways" it's sad tbh
@@Ghodum well, for exmaple if the passenger sitting behind you is not belted, they can kill you in a crash by crushing the back of the seat against you. It really is in all passengers interest for all occupants to be belted in because loose humans can become lethal projectiles in a crash.
@@Ghodum well typically laws are there to keep people safe, and this one is no exception. The only reason someone would be upset at seatbelts being mandated, would be if they are simply rebellious for no good reason.
He didn't find out, he willingly chose his fate. P.S. - I’m not saying his choice was a wise one, I ALWAYS wear my seatbelt, but I am saying it was( and should be) his choice to make.
It was a Volvo engineer that invented the 3 point belt that we all use today. Before that it was lap belts if anything. Volvo made the decision to make the patent public property so that any company could freely use it
My buddies dad got in a wreck. He wasn't wearing a seatbelt and his passenger was. He flew through the windshield and survived. However she was wearing a seatbelt and got cut in half. Her body flew through the windshield and her legs stayed behind. Seatbelts sometimes cause death and this is why we should have the right to choose
Modern vehicles are built to take the brunt of a collision, which is a far cry from the older vehicles, some didn't even come with seat belts. I guess they figured those big old boats were built to take a crash, but forgot about the occupants, who weren't. You can see some cars are so mangled beyond recognition, but the driver's compartments are usually intact, and crashes that surely would have killed, don't anymore. I'm amazed when I see some of the wrecks people actually walked away from, as opposed to the older cars that might have a damaged bumper, but everyone inside is dead.
No. There's rollover where you get bashed around and dropping over the side of cliffs where you banging to things and get bashed around and might be dead before the car stops
Completely agree with him. When driving a non professional vehicle it should be 100% up to me whether I wear a seatbelt or not. The govt has no rights over my personal choices so long as they dont trample the liberties of others
Yeah but he could have been anti government seatbelt requirements while still electing, as an individual, to wear a seatbelt....I can be against a government law on saw blade guards without sticking my head in a band saw...
@@scruffmcgruffthecrimedawg5661 Well yeah I wouldn't expect the guy trying to restrict seatbelt laws to be safety Steve, but the video seems to imply he was anti seatbelt LAW not just anti seatbelt...so I'll ask you: which do you think he stood up for no matter what: his hate of seatbelts, or his hate of the government overreach?
Derek: "I said I would die on this hill, AND I MEANT IT"
technically he died in a ditch but still
@@mfaizsyahmi He died at the bottom of the hill, no matter how small it may have been.
Dark humor. Love it 😂
😂 I'm going to hell for laughing, but this was funny
yep. Just like my friend’s friend -a jeweler who said “I’m NOT letting someone rob me-they will have to pry jewelry outa my cold dead hands. So they found his naked body down by a creek. He was killed because he wouldn’t just hand over the 6 rings he’d been showing off at a party…Mind you he didn’t make high end jewelry-Most of his rings were in the $500-800 dollar range or way less even…Law enforcement finally did prosecute the 3 men who were strangers to him-3 pale men in motorcycles from KC who’d been at the party. I mention their complexions because he was always a bit racist …and assumed my boyfriend and his friend were gonna try and rob him…nope. They weren’t that kind of people.
Finally someone living what they're preaching
You mean dieing what they preaching
Or dying for it, as it were... 👀
I mean he was advocating for choice not arguing against wearing it to begin with, statement would hold true whether he wore it or not
You mean dying what they preach
@@kiyosenl.3889 That's an important thing to note, he never claimed seatbelts were not effective, just that making dangerous decisions that only harmed oneself should be personal choice.
"give me liberty, or give me death"
narrator: unfortunately, he did not get liberty.
This made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
Well truth be told he did get both liberty AND death 😅
I heard that in Morgan Freeman's voice.
Wdym? He libertied his way into an untimely grave
Eh idk I think he chose liberty which then resulted in death
When I told friends from other countries that Americans fought against seatbelts being mandatory, they wouldn't believe me.
Wait until they find about the pro drunk driving people
As someone born and raised in USA, I can assure you and your friends that far too many otherwise intelligent Americans will fight increased safety measures as if they are a personal insult. I have no idea why. I've seen it with seat belts, motorcycle helmets, protective gear for rodeo cowboys, protective gear for race car drivers, even baby car seats! I get that some guys don't like change but I would think that they'd like disability or death a lot less. The complaints about car seats I never understood. Who wants to risk their new baby flying through the windscreen at 60mph?? I know how privileged we are to have all this technology available to us. There are some of us out here, so don't give up on us, please.
Europe was the same. I remember my father nagging about it how it was just a way to give oit more fines. He said he drove his entire life without one. The old cars didn't even have them in the back, or sometimes even the passanger side one. My father still sometimes drives without it, although in recent years I haven't seen him do it anymore. He was a cab driver for most of his life
I didn’t believe it either 😅
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He died doing what he loved - not wearing a seatbelt. We should all be so lucky.
What tf do you mean he died doing what he loved. "He love car crashes" are you saying that
Idiot
Is that a Reach quote or have I lost my mind?
@@usernameatusernameperiodsh2168he loves not wearing seatbelt so the sentence is true
Well, I don't want to choke on my favorite food and fuckin die
A seatbelt saved my life. I was being a stupid teenager and going way too fast on a wet road. Lost control and skidded sideways into a ditch at 80+ mph. Rolled multiple times. I stayed in my seat the whole time and made it out with nothing but bruises and minor cuts from glass. Please, wear your seatbelt. It's a nearly unnoticeable inconvenience in exchange for saving your life and potentially your passengers as well. Unsecured humans become projectiles in a crash.
wish you were not wearing it you are so stupid that you are a danger to others and should be locked away
Your pfp is the same as the icon for a discord server I'm in
Being a European and reading "I was being a stupid TEENAGER and going way too fast on a wet road" just messes with my head. That's not you being stupid (although maybe a bit lol) that's just how teenagers are. And it's DEFINITELY not like people get better at going slow and steady on the road with age
@@VitaeLibra most teenagers do definitely know to drive at a responsible speed, I’d say they were being stupid. Being a teenager doing excuse irresponsible driving.
@@rachelcookie321 I think you missed my point?
That's not Irony, that's Cause and Effect.
reminds me of the biker who was against wearing helmets while riding bikes and in his way to a protest or in the protest he got into an accident. and the doctor said he wouldn't be that injured if he was wearing a helmet
@@qraidDo you know his name?
@@clouds-rb9xt philip contos
Rednecks in a nutshell. Never read a book. Never passed high school. Never looked up anything online accept girls. A regular dumb dumb.😅
It IS irony....slow head no IQ. Anti seatbelt guy dies bc he didn't wear seatbelt lol
Man lived and died by his beliefs. Got to hand it to him.
nah, sometimes you really dont lol
He died how he lived, unrestrained by seatbelts.
TONS of people think seatbelt laws shouldn't exist. However once they accidentally hit someone else who isn't wearing a seatbelt, and GET SUED for the resulting damages, they realise that seatbelt laws are necessary.
Without the seatbelt law, anyone who gets in an accident without a seatbelt on "because it should be my choice" will happily SUE for the EXTRA damages that were caused by them CHOOSING not to wear a seatbelt, instead of just ACCEPTING THE FACT THAT THEY CHOSE NOT TO WEAR A SEATBELT AND THUS THE ADDED INJURIES ARE SOLELY THEIR FAULT.
@@jonslg240 sure just tell us you're a boot licker who knows nothing about liberty or safety..
@@jonslg240 that's the thing. Anyone over 18 shouldn't be required to wear one of they don't want to but by not wearing one they should not be allowed to sue nor their family of they die. The insurance also shouldn't have to pay for that person either.
@@chaseviking5096 if the courts worked that way I'd say fine, however they don't.
P.S. I'm strongly for personal freedoms and personal responsibility..
Unlike a certain 50% of the population
@@jonslg240 I find it a shame with the way the courts above work. It's no better than let's say a person breaks into your house armed and you are forced to shoot the person. If they live they have a chance of suing you and winning despite the fact they were breaking the law and were going to do you harm. If they die then their family has a chance to sue you despite the fact you defended yourself. The courts need to be fixed on how things like this type of stuff works. You do something you are supposed to or shouldn't be doing because it's either illegal or legal but dangerous then you or your family shouldn't be allowed to sue nor be entitled to insurance compensation. It above all would help make people think twice.
I was t-boned by a truck completely out of the blue two weeks ago. I have a broken rib and a nasty seat belt bruise. That bruise shows me how much that seat belt works.
I am so sorry that happened to you! Glad the seat belt saved you, just like it was designed to do
@@ned6938 feel like they would’ve more flown out the passenger window/their window and gotten terrible scrapes
@@test_account2376 Have you heard of the horror stories of when you get ejected onto pavement at high speed? Not much left to scrape, unless you're the guy on cleanup...
I've been in a couple wrecks. Had my seatbelt on every time. The last one my seatbelt literally came undone as the Corsica I was in was T-boned by a F250 at almost 55-60 mph. The truck hit just a couple inches behind my door which was the back driver side door. I got a very excellent look at the dark green truck with a shiny chrome grill and the blue oval with the word FORD in to which I could see plenty clear enough to read. I'm lucky to be alive. Do to my seatbelt coming undone I bounced around in the backseat like a pinball in a pinball machine. Didn't break anything but I bruised my ribs so badly the doctors were surprised they didn't break and said I would have been better off if they had broke. I have back problems now from that wreck as well and I'm 31 years old. I also have a bit of PTSD from it. I refuse to sit behind the driver anymore and on the rare occasions when I have no other choice I'm extremely nervous to the point I feel like I'm going to hyperventilate and have a panic attack.
@@ned6938 Is this bait?
His passengers are lucky he was ejected and didn’t pinball them.
Yup! I'm the obnoxious driver who won't move my car until all passengers are buckled. I straight up tell people that they can disregard their own safety, but they're not endanfering me or my (also buckled) dogs, and end it with "Secure your mass."
This ^
I remember tv ad from when I was a kid in Ireland that showed that very scenario. It opens with "this is Michael and today he's going to hit his girlfriend so hard she ends up with permanent brain damage". My skin crawls remembering the crack when his head slams into his girlfriends
honestly i think this is why seat belts are mandatory, not because of the potential for yourself to die, but to injure or kill others.
The government already allows tobacco, drugs (in some places), and committing seppuku isn't disallowed either. You are ultimately responsible for yourself, but it is a bad idea to entrust the safety of others on all members of the population. Some are just too irresponsible and negligent.
This, 1000 times, this.
I'm not traveling in a car where some wannabe human wrecking ball is not wearing a seatbelt.
The problem isn't that Derek won the Darwin Award, the problems are:
1) His passengers and the drivers around him had to witness what was probably a gory, terribly violent death that likely traumatized them for a while. He mentally scarred people.
2) The first responders that went to the accident could have spent their time responding to other emergencies instead of scraping Derek's dumb ass off the icy pavement. He wasted public safety resources.
3) It takes longer to clean up a corpse and a car wreck than it takes to clean up just a car wreck. The traffic he caused was worse than it could have been. This could have had a far reaching impact and it's impossible to say how much harm was done, but almost certainly there was some negative economic impact. He made the economy worse.
Sure some of these effects are tiny, but they exist and they add up. And that's why we have seatbelt laws. Not so Derek can get home safe to write his dumb articles, but so that people like Derek don't ruin society for the rest of us.
Only person here making an actual argument.. props
Don't forget that Derek's 100+ pound body could fly around inside the car potentially injuring or "ending" someone else in the car
This, laws for stuff like this, drunk driving, vaccines, face masks, etc are primarily made to minimize the collateral damages of stupid people's mistakes rather than protect them specifically (although they do also serve that purpose)
All of which is, I’m sure, true. But still glad he got the Darwin Award…
Damn that's cold. And accurate.
I heard anti seatbelt and instantly thought "he's about to get his shit rocked by a not wearing his seatbelt isn't he?"
Lol, I did too
It's on UA-cam with forecasting clickbait title for a video, a simple amount of extrapolating would deduce that.
@@hiya2112great no one asked
@@valerial9081 stay triggered and mentally inept, please keep declaring painfully obvious things. What makes you think I give two turtle shits about any of your opinions? Main character syndrome? Keep your trap shut.
@@hiya2112 The word click bait has lost all meaning
Fun fact: in the last libertarian national convention a candidate was severely booed for stating that he believes people should pass driving tests before being able to get a driver’s license
Welcome to the Libertarian Party. Here's your requisite nomination for the next Darwin Awards.
Lolbertarians are just as low as Commies are.
Wait, you don’t take a driving test to get your license? What?
Honestly this should be extremely telling as to just how worthless libertarianism is to anyone capable of even the smallest shred of critical thinking.
@@Sebisajiminstan you do, but a policy some libertarians want to push is the abolishment of driver’s licenses, citing they are “too much government involvement and regulation” and that everyone should be free to drive as they wish, even if they aren’t capable of driving safely
He's right in a way. That was *HIS* choice. And he got the consequences.
So what if his body had hit a car in the opposing lane, leading to the demise of that car's passengers. Then it is not only consequences of his own. Now others have to pay for his foolishness as well.
Laws doesn't always exists to suppress. But they are often a weighing between individual rights and the good of the collective.
@@affugter that's one magic body
@@affugter fuck the collective
@@affugter you could make that argument for any object in the car. “What if his dog was in the back and was ejected and hit a car in the opposite lane?” His ignorance to wear not a seatbelt is stupid. His argument for government interference however still holds true.
@@thediver7187 that is why you in Denmark are required by law to secure your dog to the seat or to the truck (or have a cage wall between the passenger section and the trunk. So in the case of an accident your dog will not hit you or others.
Unbelievable that this was an actual topic of discussion in 2004 🤯
In Germany we had the same type of arguments - but in the 1970s!
Same here in France 😂
American here-Americans, especially those of the "superior race"are self entitled morons.
He was advocating against giving the police another arbitrary reason to pull you over and infringe on freedom of travel. You germans used to bend over for the gestapo-no one expects you to understand
Sadly Americans think anything helpful or beneficial is either a psyop, part of a larger conspiracy to “control” them, unconstitutional, communism, etc. etc. Americans laugh at each other for wearing masks when other countries have been doing that as a norm for decades. A bunch even believe the world wide pandemic was planned by the government to control them. That one gets me cause how the hell would the U.S. government even be able to ruin billions of lives around the world just so that they can have more control over their own population? Weird that they would affect the entire world just to go after roughly 330 million Americans.
Kids who are used to local bus rides still complain that you have to wear seatbelts in long-distance buses, though lol
Seatbelts remind me of helmets of WW1. At first high command was concerned because more soldiers were reporting injuries, but then they realized that more people were alive to report them
Yeah, what's that called survivor bias? Is that right? I can google it, but I don't want to.
@@scottshanahan3827 partly, yes. This is one example of survivorship bias
Reminds me of the study done on ww2 aircraft and where planes were being shot up on their return home. Initially designers thought they needed to reinforce the places where they had been shot. But then reevaluated noting that they should reinforce the parts where that wasn’t the case, since those planes weren’t returning back from the mission to report on the issue 😂
@@Lem0nsquid I remember that one too
wait a minute... there were misgivings about the effectiveness of helmets in a war zone?? The place where there's flying debris and bullets and shrapnel.
I worked at 911 for 10 years. Most of the people killed in accidents were ejected. I got so many calls from people in terrible accidents who were still suspended upside down in their rolled vehicle, terrified but uninjured. On another note, if you have life insurance for your family, WEAR YOUR SEAT BELT. Many life insurance policies have fine print stating they won't pay out if you die in an accident while not wearing a seat belt.
Since when do they even pay out
Can confirm. I was a firefighter/emt, and I also dispatched. I didn't know about the insurance thing, but I can promise that it's a damned stupid thing not to wear one's seat belt. It's right there for you. You don't have to go buy and install it. It's right fkn there, and can absolutely mean the difference between your living and dying, or the quality of your life after surviving the accident.
7/11?
@@Throbbing_Gimp NO, 911... AS IN THE PHONE NUMBER.
It's called CONTEXT.
@Malus the government doesn't want to pay to scrape your mangled ass off the road. Your "choice" endangers other drivers and races up stupid amounts of taxpayer money. It costs almost a million bucks to pay all those employees to deal with your accident or death (most likely).
Oppositional defiance disorder isn't really a good reason for draining money that could be put to better causes. It's also a bad reason to potentially endanger other people who are possibly harmed by your projectile ass when you die that way.
Non seatbelt wearers make their personal problem everyone else's. If a person dies in such an easily preventable way, they could change a "stupidity tax" on the corpses estate to cover the costs.
If “Fuck around and find out” was a person.
let's wait for this 'influencer' who drives his BMW at extremely fast speeds, going through red lights
@@cutiebunnyamber3447The guy who uploaded the video, obviously did it whilst he was parked?
Darwinism at it's finest
@@cutiebunnyamber3447 this truly is a genshin fan moment lmfao
I know Milton Friedman had a quote about this exact thing, something along the lines of “ We shouldn’t have to wear a helpmate because the government mandates we do, we should wear one because it’s common sense”
Wearing a seat belt for this video was a conscious decision.
He tested his assumption at his own convenience. How noble of him.
Translation: he f*cked around and found out.
😅😅😅
Not necessarily. Notice that the crash was a multiple rollover, even with a seat belt that type of crash has a very high fatality and/or serious injury rate. He may have been killed anyway, or so horribly maimed that he would rather have died.
The point is, he was right, he had a right to decide if he wore his seat belt or not, and his not wearing it does not make you or I any less safe on the road. Therefore, there is very little reason that the government should be able to hold a gun to our head or beat us into compliance.
@@dancooper6002 Necessarily. Seatbelts keep drivers contained in the driving position allowing them to maintain more control of the vehicle.
@@rouxtube550 Now you are talking out your ass. Plenty of rollovers happen with people wearing seatbelts, and having or not having it on is only rarely, if ever, going to save your ass from a rollover. The driver has usually lost control to the point where a rollover will happen (especially with a high profile vehicle, which ARE something the government should probabally ban) long before they have moved enough to be unable to manipulate controls.
@@dancooper6002 Yes, but he says in the video the other people in the car with him during the car accident wore seatbelts and survived.
The life insurance company mustve had a field day with that one...
Life insurance policies do pretty thorough checks before issuing policies. There's no shot he would have been allowed to take one. I also doubt this is the kind of guy who believes in insurance.
@@nate6045 where did you hear that one from? You can buy one for a child 😂😂
@Bane Tinker My cousin used to sell life insurance and when I was a teen, my mother started the paperwork to buy a life insurance policy for me. You can buy one for a child because a child can't do things like drive a car. They're not doing things to intentionally jeopardize their lives like this idiot.
@Bane Tinker they won't cover your stupidity tho
@@nate6045 they'll only do checks once the claims are made. They'll happily take your money at first
I don’t think I could not wear a seatbelt if I tried. I’m so conditioned to put it on, that I’ll automatically end up buckled even if I’m just starting my car to warm it up.
I agree. I am at the tail end of teaching my daughter to drive. She is ready to go for her driving test to be able to drive on her own. Part of that is that the instructors check that all passengers are wearing seatbelts, so sometimes don't put their seatbelts on to test the driver. To prepare her, I sometimes would not put on my seatbelt, but noticed how hard that habit is to break, even intending to not put my seatbelt on I would automatically just put it on as a reflex.
My mom always made certain her kids wore their belts before she'd even start her car.
That saved my life about twenty years later, when a guy fell asleep at the wheel and crashed his car right into the rental van I was driving.
Both vehicles were a total loss.
The car hit directly where I was sitting and hit so hard the axel right under my seat was thrown across the intersection!
Both myself and the guy that hit my car were just fine. Airbags and seat belts saved us both and we both walked away from the accident.
And like covid these idiots will call you a sheep for having common sense
Hell, I’ll buckle up when I’m getting out of the car. This makes exiting a vehicle more complicated, as you might imagine.
I was thrown from my car in 1984 before it was the law to wear a seat belt. Almost lost a arm
Started wearing belt after that.
People would make smart ass remarks about me putting belt on knowing what had happened to me. 🤦♂️
Anyone not wearing seatbelts is a deadly hazard to everybody else in the car in case of an accident.
Agreed...so make it a crime only when other people are in the car.
That is the actual definition of a bruh moment
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He isn’t anti-seatbelt, he’s just pro-natural selection
Let's not humiliate him further.
@@mugglesarecooltoo oh we definitely should
@@TheBluePhoenix008the man is dead
god already proved him wrong
@@TheBluePhoenix008agree
@@fernando4959 fair point
Well, this wouldn't be my hill to die on.
it wasn't a hill, it was an icey patch.........
@@lkd06 i was making a joke, it must have bad if you didn't get it.
@@lkd06 while you're there, check the next one below it.
@@Redskies453 good one
@@batsonelectronics It was good. You got the joke and added to it.
That still doesn't make him wrong. It just means he made a bad choice 😂
Someone with sense!
Exactly why no matter what I don’t start driving until everybody else has buckled up.
Yep! My dad is notorious for not buckling up, and I always remind him (he’s gotten better over the years). It’s not that he doesn’t like them, just that he forgets/it’s a habit from when he was a kid.
I got in an argument with my brother over this when I first started driving. We argued for two minutes sitting in the driveway until he finally gave in to my demands. 😂
@Studio23 Media God for you. Let him know, we can sit here and argue, or we can get to where we are going
@Studio23 Media you sound like a dick. It's his choice to be a fool.
@@Studio23Media My positions is, "My car, my rules. You will wear a seatbelt, you will not smoke; other rules will appear as and when required."
Prime example of fuck around and find out.
Nah, that applies when you're troubling others and they trouble you back. Derek wasn't doing that.
@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573
Life is the undefeated champion of fuck around and find out my friend.
doesn’t invalidate his argument
@@qualalampFOOBOOairpillowsvolun
Fuck around and find out is define as, "taking a dangerous or foolish action with consequences the individual may not be ready for." While it is often used in a 1v1 scenario, and popularized as such, it can be used in a vernacular/jargon that refers to the situation at hand rather than a perceived individual. In the case of Derek, he chose to not wear a seatbelt while driving his vehicle (fucked around) and therefore died in the resulting accident (found out).
def leppards drummer wore a seatbelt and was ejected so explain that HUH?
Seatbelts saved me, my mom, and my two brothers when we were hit by a drunk driver and rolled a couple times. Scariest moment of my life but thankfully we all had our seatbelts on which definitely saved our lives.
Seatbelts do so much! So many people are sharing seatbelt stories. Saved my head from hitting the windshield when a patch of ice lead to me sliding through a red light. Foot was shattered from me hitting the break so hard during a front end impact and had seatbelt bruises but no concussion or other head injuries thanks to all the vehicle safety devices like seatbelts. A lot more would have been shattered than my foot without a seatbelt.
If it weren't for seatbelts, I would have died in my first car accident when I was 18.
My children are alive today because of seatbelts.
Doesn't mean government should force people to wear them. NOW if you want to force people to wear them in YOUR car.. have at it.
I make my kids wear them when I drive. But honestly I don't have the energy to care if you live or die based upon your own decisions. and I don't want to force you to do or not do anything. Simply do not hurt people and don't take their stuff and I'll be happy.
@@TedSchoenling you've never had to go to an accident where somebody has died or been critically injured I guess. If you had, you would definitely agree with those laws. In my home state of Tennessee, if you or somebody in your car isn't wearing a seatbelt, you get a ticket. Click it or ticket as they say. Is that government overreach? Not in my mind.
He lived by his principles, he should have no regrets
His individual right to not wear a seatbelt, got him ejected right out of the vehicle.
RIP
I did not expect 7.7K likes. Thanks guys.
P as in piss?
his individual is also synonymous with stupidity, so yeah i guess so.
Rest In Pieces?
@@HansenLaMoose People have a right to be stupid. He was just stupider.
@@sepeepee lucky bastard
I used to work for the Highway Division during university. One of my duties was to file reports and PHOTOS of accident fatalities. I’ll ALWAYS wear a seatbelt.
I’m sure you’ve seen some horrible images that are stuck in your mind that would convince anyone.
I don't let anyone in my own vehicle not wear a seatbelt because of the EMTs who have told me how often a person without a seatbelt kills other people when their body flies into them during a crash. That is the real reason why it's the law. It's not only your own life that is put at risk!
@D Cup yup, I saw a reenactment where the person without the seatbelt flew all over the car and his body killed all his friends and he survived. Was horrifying. Definitely convinced me to wear a seatbelt.
that's YOUR choice.
@@Hiraghm - So is paying insurance. So is taking the licensure test and registering your car. So is keeping your car lights, flashers and blinkers in working order. All those are choices. They are also the law.
You see, that is where the logic over this whole argument fails. Unless you folks are going to go rogue the whole way over public safety (which is silly), then your argument over wearing/not wearing a seat belt is moot.
At the core of this argument is this arrogant, tough guy/gal warped sense of “freedom” that is centered solely on the individual. Me, me, me, me, me. You know, I’m all for freedom. But there is freedom and there are rights. When my “freedom” impinges on the rights of others (including their right to safety or their right not to be traumatized or deal with the deeply negative consequences of my actions), that’s where my freedom has limits. There is a mountain of evidence proving belts save both the user’s life AND the lives of others involved. Beyond the human life issue, there are other factors. For example, there’s significantly less road closure time and far less resources expended to deal with the aftermath. And I haven’t even mentioned psychological trauma. When one examines all the fallout not wearing a belt produces, it goes far beyond your death or how it impacts only YOU.
I was in a rollover accident when I was 21. All three people in our car were belted. Minor injuries. I do not allow anyone to be a passenger in my car without a seatbelt.
I'm glad everyone ended up ok.
Had a friend whose boyfriend piled into an already full car. He wasn't wearing a seatbelt he was ejected and decapitated during the rollover. Everyone else was fine because they all had seatbelts. His gf was the EMT who arrived on the scene. Seeing his head like that pushed her into drugs to deal with it and she ended up overdosing and dying.
While working the ER I had a family of people come in at once. It was a man that was backing out of the driveway so the mom and dad could switch which car was out closest to the road, so he wasn't wearing a seatbelt since it was a "quick car change". He had the window down and was talking to his wife and kids in the driveway as he backed out and was T boned and the car pushed down a few houses because the other car was speeding so much. The kids went running to dad's car and one was hit by another car. Both dad and kid died.
Seatbelts save lives and not just the lives of the people inside the car. I refuse to even start the car until everyone is clicked in.
Edited to add: the dad died because being slammed into at 50 miles an hour pushed his body halfway out the open car window. When the car rolled on its side it crushed him. The kid died from traumatic brain injury - the 3rd car on the scene was rubbernecking at the accident that just happened and didn't notice the kids running into the street and hit all 3 of them to varying degrees. He was the youngest and smallest and I think the front end of the car was probably at head height and between the car hitting and him bouncing off the pavement that's what did it probably. I didn't witness the scene so I don't know.
In my country it‘s actually the responsibility of the driver that everyone inside the vehicle is belted. You get the fine if someone is not and in case one of your passengers dies during a crash, you are at fault or at least partially at fault.
And yet once in a while you can see kids jumping about in vans on the highway, where people can go as fast as they want (or actually „as traffic allows“, but we all know that people who speed have different interpretations of ‚suitable traffic‘). It‘s insane.
A friend of mine in jr. high was in a car that rolled. She had a few bruises from the belt but was totally fine. We couldn’t believe she came to school the next day. The car she was in was rear ended and pushed off the freeway which was on a hill so they ended up rolling down the hill and it flipped at some point. I was shocked that besides a few bruises no one was seriously injured. All wearing seatbelts. If they hadn’t you know someone would have been thrown from the car and died…I don’t understand people who think seatbelts are oppressive.
Your car, your rules.
The problem is when the government, that does not own your car, tries to set rules for your car.
@@JanBruunAndersenyes like speed limits we should get rid of those, and stop signs why should we stop at those.
Genuinely these laws are meant to keep you safe if you don't want to follow it look at the consequences from this video and from all the comments above.
I can't argue with him, he was not criticizing the safety aspect of seat belts, only the personal freedom infringement involved in mandatory use of them, and he died a free man.
So he believed that seatbelts increase safety but he didn't wear them? Just to "stick it to the man"? Good job..
I take your point, but he also died while needlessly endangering the other occupants of the car.
Nothing more American than “It’s my right to choose to be stupid”
At least a good 30-40 percent of the population will always fight for the right to do the wrong thing. You can always count on someone fighting real hard to make things worse.
@@infinite-sadness Yes, they call them MAGA Republicans.
No seat belt requirement, nor helmet for motorcycles. But... you get a letter code on your license like "Glasses" Y/N and "Organ Donor" is a mandatory "Yes". Choosing the right to wear no seat belt or helmet will be disclosed to your auto and health insurer and you are EXEMPT from EMTALA laws requiring hospitals to stabilize you. You further acknowledge any life-saving measures beyond your high cost insurance limits will be paid for with any assets you own including your home and you agree to have your wages garnished.
How many of these freedom-lovin' Americans are on board to sign?
Death is one thing, permanent poverty and potential homelessness? Yikes.
@@williamjacobsTHIS!👍
the good part is his stupid choice only affected him. sadly, that's not always the case.
Bro won a Darwin award
I mean seat bets can kill you too
lmao I'm def gonna be using that
Bro got naturally selected
Bro got naturally ejected
@@ehe8692 HAHAHAHA LMAO
As a former car seat tech- I learned that the danger of someone not wearing a seatbelt is not actually just to themselves. A large heavy object like a human (or unsecured cargo) can and does kill other occupants in the vehicle. Not everyone is ejected and just dies from their own choice. I’ve seen some gnarly crash footage. 😢
Ooh...that's a good argument for seatbelt laws right there. I did lean more on the side of thinking seatbelt laws were a bit of overreach (although you still should wear your seatbelt, and I always do), but I think that's tipped me back in the other direction.
And you're strapped there while stuff is flying around. You can't even curl properly to protect yourself.
And everybody has projectiles all over their cars, down to their travel mugs.
@@kelf114 although you can mentally picture it that way, that’s not how it works in collisions according to decades of research, police and hospital records of actual damage, injuries and crash patterns. We also have decades of crash test footage in every imaginable scenario.
You are not able to curl up, brace yourself or otherwise in a real life collision. The seatbelt prevents whiplash, head injury, ejection and a multitude of other common results of crashes.
And yes, they also prevent injuries to the other occupants of the car- based on the facts.
A full travel mug or cell phone flying might give you a black eye or other relatively minor injury (compared to death). A full human can kill.
This information is readily available if you’d like to Google car safety. I’m going to enjoy my sunny Sunday afternoon now. Take care.
@@kelf114 been watching too much Fast and Furious
@@kelf114 OK dimwit but you go curl up in the corner of your room now because I just threw something at you😮
He was right. Of course, it's "safer," but it's no business of the gov't.
The Grim Reaper: "Congratulations. You played yourself."
Pretty much
"Put a quarter in your ass, cause you played yourself."
I just read that in DJ Khaled’s voice…
Good for him. He wasn't a hypocrite and died doing what he loved.
there are times where we should applaud sticking by one's morals.
there are also times where we should tell somebody they're being a fucking moron and that their moral is not worth standing by if it's gonna cost you your life.
You have to be really stupid to think being a hypocrite is worse than dying in a fucking car crash
@@Dracon350 just for something as petty as "no the government wont control those 5 seconds of my day that i use to put on a seatbelt".
Weird hill to die on, but at least he's dead.
You’re assuming driving and not wearing a seatbelt was what he loved? That’s next level stupidity.
“Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” at its peak lmao
That’s what I was thinking as I went to type that, i saw this comment haha
If you pay attention to the story. You'll see his right to not wear a seat belt was actually not infringed by these tyrannical seatbelt laws. Important lesson, but most people will just take away "haha better trust the govt"
Exactly, play dumbass games because “muh individual rights” and you’ll see why those rules were there in the first place 😂
Everyone in this thread managed to miss the entire point. He was right. He still is right. They have no right to tell you that you have to wear a seat belt. He still could have. I know that every time we let the government have such individual control over people, it is a mistake. I would wear one for myself. No one has the right to tell me I must or I get a ticket and a fine. That's insane. What purpose does it serve? I have every right to die if I do something unsafe by choice, it's stupid to try and regulate that as the federal government. The government carries two purposes. The protect the property of individuals from other individuals and corporations. And to deliver swift justice. The government in the US barely succeeds at the first and never does the second.
@@jiaan100When you use your freedom to risk your life for no possible gain you will often end up with the absolute freedom of the void of death and nothing else. This has less to do with the government and more to do with the common sense of following safety guidelines, not because the government says to but because it's the only intelligent option.
I remember an add from when I was a kid here in the UK about seatbelts.
I mother was driving her teenage kids, daughter next to in the passenger seat and son sitting behind her, the mother and daughter were both wearing their seatbelts while the son wasn't.
When they got hit from behind the force of the impact threw the son against his mother's seat hard enough that the seat dislodged and said mother was crushed against the front of the car and killed instantly.
The son seemed to just have a bloody nose and the daughter was screaming in horror.
The point being that seatbelts don't just protect you, but other people in the car.
That's a traumatic memory you just unlocked! If I recall correctly the setup was something like a happy family scene and the voiceover started saying he was going to kill his mother?
I remember that ad.
To be fair, he was totally right. He was an adult and chose not to wear a seatbelt, and faced the consequences as a result.
What a moron
To be fair, people who get scammed do so willingly. If you choose to trust someone as an adult, you should accept the consequences of that trust.
We should stop making laws against scammers.
@@nuknukisdeadnot in any way equivalent. That is one perso taking advantage of another person rather than one acting stupid of their own accord and then facing consequences. That's like seeing someone trip over their own shoelaces because they refuse to tie them and then you saying "tripping people is fine because they chose to walk there, so they have to face the consequences of me tripping them"
Well, your ejected body can be a danger to other drivers and pedestrians. I don’t know about you but I’d rather not have a soon-to-be corpse fly through my windshield
@@deku976but his act of stupidity could easily kill someone. Your seat belt helps you yes, but it protects others in the car and around your car when you are ejected.
The thing about seat belts is that they not only protect the driver but they prevent the occupants from becoming projectiles.
I used to have to tell my husband exactly this all the time! YOU may not want to be restrained, but me and these 3 kids do not want you flying into US when you become a weapon!!
I suspect that's a valid, but minor point in the debate. My position is that I think you have to be a idiot or one step shy of suicidal to not where a seat belt; the data on how much they improve safety is way to persuasive to not overcome the very minor cost of using them. ... That said; I don't think "but if we don't, people will do idiotic things" is a sufficient reason to pass laws. At a minimum, there should be a requirement to show likelihood of harm to someone else.
@Benjamin Shropshire and this is why we have as many people as we do. We should stop trying to protect stupid people from themselves and let natural selection do its job
Besides, the best way to not get injured or killed in an accident is to not get in the accident in the first place. If someone wasn’t wearing a seatbelt and gets injured or killed in an accident, the person responsible for it should always be the person who caused the accident. No accident and the seatbelt is a moot point
Yes, seatbelts should be installed in vehicles and minors should be required to wear them (not old enough to consent to the risks). But the government shouldn’t be requiring them for adults
@@nicholasselke5214 words of wisdom; don’t do the thing that causes the thing 🤣 except that is why it is an accident lol. Not someone purposefully ramming your car like we are at a carnival playing bumper cars 💀
Wouldn't you fly through the front? Unless you're reversing at 60+..
when anti-seatbelt advocates become the best seatbelt advocates
But he wasn't anti-seatbelt, he was anti-interventionism.
Underrated comment. 😄
@@SeraphsWitness I'm not anti seatbelt either but I absolutely hate that government tells us that 60% of accident deaths have been unbuckled this year meaning that wearing a seat belt is only helping 20% of accidents and people who were terrible at math and comprehension think the seat belt is the magical device that saved them
They should make a statue of him with a broken back on the ground 100’ from his rolled Explorer as a seatbelt tribute
@@PJMontoya for every statue like that there would a statue where my cousin lived because she was thrown from the car before the car landed upside down on a rock that crushed the roof THROUGH the driver seat. Seat belts are injury mitigation devices and we should focus on injury prevention( safe driving) far more than minimizing injury once accidents happen due to personal negligence(very few accidents are caused by machine failure)
I remember a discussion in high school where a girl told me she would be safer being ejected from the vehicle in a crash and that's why she wouldn't wear a seatbelt. She was in a crash where she was partially ejected and the truck rolled over on her and killed her.
As soon as you said ‘anti-seat-belt’ I knew someone was going thru the windshield.
I thought he was going to be killed by someone else who wasn't wearing a seatbelt and hit him. Because that's exactly why his point doesn't hold up. It's not about "individual rights"; it's about not endangering other people.
Do you have any real world examples of that happening? I haven't seen any, and a less than 1 percent chance of something happening doesn't make it a valid argument for a law. Laws are enforced through implied violence. Why do you think you have a right to threaten others over a hypothetical?
@@99EKjohnI live right next to a cross section. Everyone thats had a crash here with a seatbelt? Injured but fine. The one time someone didn't? Laying on my neighbors front yard. Do you have any proof what your claiming is a 1% chance?
@@hellishthehellrellish5672 it's an easy Google search away, just do the math, only a handful of people are injured from unbelted people a year, but there are millions of car accidents. UA-cam doesn't allow links, you should know this. do you have anything besides an irrelevant antidotal example that is not verifiable, and by your own admission didn't hurt anyone but the unbuckled person? Go ahead and post your address so I can verify your claims.
But that only happens in video games, according to a certified intellectual I just came across in these comments
The universe showed him what seatbelts are for.
I agree with the guy that forcing people to wear seat belts is over-reaching by the government, That said, I ALWAYS buckle up because it's the smart thing to do.
@@lynnw7155 bro it's a safety measure not only for you, but for others, as your body could become a projectile that could crash on other cars and cause EVEN MORE damage when you don't wear a seatbelt.
Why are Americans SO obsessed with "fReEdoM" that they think laws and regulations exist to "take away their rights"? What's that obsession with being so self absorbed that only you matter and not how your actions may impact others, especially something as stupid as NOT wearing a seatbelt?
@@valerial9081
"Why are Americans...."
*_And that's your opinion dismissed._*
@@decwowHe's not wrong. Us Americans are needlessly stubborn on shit that just doesn't matter lol. The pandemic really highlighted how selfish and self-absorded a lot of Americans are.
Im American and i agree with him.@@decwow
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I love people like that.
They get rid of their own stupid.
Unfortunately some times they take other people out with them.
If the government tells people to mind the cliff edge, thete are thousands of people who will immediately throw themselves off it.
They bellyache about the "nanny state" and then proceed to show everyone why they still need a nanny
Yeah, republican mentality right there lol
That's an american thing
@@seymourclearlyUsually this would be correct, but covid has shown otherwise. Idiots of all nationalities died after rejecting masks.
@@roronoabear Correct. While they're at it, they'll usually blame Communism.
Derek's official cause of death was irony.
Except it's actually not irony.
Irony would be a someone protesting FOR seatbelts who is killed BY wearing a seatbelt.
Where I’m from, the cause of death would be called “Natural Consequences”
* coincidence
@@tomr6955 also not irony , that would be a coincidence too
You’re all wrong. Being killed by an iron is irony.
There was a female politician in Florida who fought to change the helmet laws in Florida so they weren't required for riders over 21. Two weeks after the change had successfully been made she was killed riding passenger on a motorcycle in an accident and doctor's said she could have survived if she had been wearing a helmet
sucks to suck
Why people think freedom means no rules versus free while protected under the law....I don't know.
Meanwhile they're happy to regulate books and food.
Driving a Harley without a helmet is not going to get anyone else hurt or killed, driving without a seat belt, can endangered others.
@@billsanders5067
Actually it could. Imagine a rider goes down and hits his head and goes unconscious in the middle of the road. A car approaching does not see his lifeless body laying there until its too late and swerves to avoid hitting him and slams into a guardrail sustaining injuries along with the damage to the car.
Had the biker had a helmet he might have been able to get up and walk away before the car approaches thus the driver would not have had to swerve.
There are many other situations with bikers where the biker can injure or kill someone in a car.
Also how can not wearing a seatbelt endanger others. Oh I know, the driver gets ejected from the vehicle and his lifeless body ends up getting thrown into the path of oncoming traffic causing the driver to swerve to avoid hitting him and crashing...just as in my biker scenario.
In the end helmets and belts can potentially save not only the life of the person using them but the life of an innocent driver who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Also lets not forget the fact that injury claims on auto and motorcycle insurance effects the rates for everyone. Helmets and seatbelts reduce injury thus help keep rates lower.
@@adamn7516 agreed seat belts and helmets are a good idea and anyone with room temperature IQ should wear them. But I’m not going to advocate forcing people over the age of 18 at the end of a government gun to do something for their own good. If they want to die in a roll over they have that right.
Though there is a much stronger cause for seatbelt laws as a flying person could easily injure or kill the other passengers
“This is a poor decision.”
“Yeah, but it’s mine to make!”
Exactly. That's the entire foundation of the US, freedom above all else.
unfortunately, i knew someone who flat out refused to wear his seatbelt. he was driving like a fool one day, tried to pass in a no passing zone and had a horrible accident. our friend who was wearing his seatbelt only suffered a broken arm but our friend who was driving and not wearing his was killed. the really tragic part of the story is that his wife was also in the car with them and she didn't have her's on either. they both died and now three little boys are growing up without their parents. just wear your damn seatbelt.
So sad- especially for their children 🥺😔
I'm sorry they had to go through that trauma, but hopefully they are now being cared for by people that will raise them with better guidance at the very least. I hope they live good lives.
No seatbelt + passing in no passing zone = 😂😂😂
@@adesuwa9112 very sad. The two youngest are doing well but the oldest is having some issues. I can only imagine what long-term effects such a tragedy will have.
I don't know why people choose these hills to die on (pun not intended). Is wearing a seatbelt really government tyranny? Is it that big of a deal to wear your seatbelt?
Bro went out on his terms tho😂
Bit his nose off to spite their face
Probably in a HORRIBLE way though.
i was coming to say the same thing
Local pro seat belt politician: and we're happy for him
@@nolanjdon3514 he lived and died as he chose. Your should want the same.
Anti-seatbelt sentiment was very strong in the 70s and 80s when seatbelt laws were being proposed. This man was a relic.
Emphasis on the "was" part. Back in the 2000s, we would have called him a recipient of the Darwin Award.
Yeah, he actually believed people should make decisions about their lives themselves instead of the government making them for them. What a crazy relic.
1972 _ cross-country road trip from Seattle to Baltimore in a Ford Country Squire station wagon. I even rode in the jump seat, for part of the journey. There were lap belts, but no laws to use them - we didn't.
@@neverstopschweikinghis right ended where mine starts or something like that
@@chantalfinn6173ironic, hes not forcing anyone, they are.
And that would be his problem, but think of all the rescue expenses and emotional trauma spent trying to save him.
Some dude in Florida WAS a no helmet advocate. Dude and his wife died from head trauma while in a motorcycle crash.
god bless freedom. if a man cant pull his trusty 1911 out and blow his own fucking brains out was he ever truly free???
There was another one who crashed his bike at an anti-helmet rally and died of a head injury.
BuT gOvErNmEnT oVeRrEaCh!!1
We are all going to die someday… better to go out on your own terms, no?
Tell that to Tom Cruise.
Let's not forget about the tyranny of stoplights. The horror.
AND, you must STAY IN YOUR LANE, marked with lines! Drive only on the same side of the road, EVERY TIME. It's suffocating!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thats not even remotely the same thing.
@jimjones3223stupid hypothetical that isn’t representative of reality. Nice try shoe-horning it in anyway. What a freak.
@@MattH-wg7ouare jokes a foreign concept to you?
Hey, he did say “no matter the consequences,” so he was aware of the risks it seems.
Was he tho? Was he? Humans tend to have this bias of
Pah! It wont ever happen to me!
Doesn't matter if you think this won't wont happen. he knodded to the reaper. you just except what happens and keep doing what is important to you despite the risk to be free. I understand I ride a motorcycle with no seat belt lmao
Clowns like this are too blinkered and basic to truly comprehend the complexities and nuances of “risk.”
Good riddance.
@MegaRomans01 And do you ride your motorbike without wearing a helmet? That would be the same concept.
@@MegaRomans01 Theyre going to scrape pieces of your skin off the pavement with a spatula buddy
That’s what has to happen to people with that mindset. Something tragic. Seems dropping your ego, learning to have empathy, and getting some humility has a much better outcome.
The thing that makes me remember to wear a seatbelt was hearing a police officer talk about how hard it was to report deaths to loved ones when the person dead could have still been alive if they had been wearing a seatbelt.
So seatbelt laws don’t make you wear one, the idea of dying if you don’t wear one does… interesting… there’s almost no need for a law requiring a seatbelt or people just use common sense
@@joeythemoose common sense isn't common.
Not making a law means it can’t be enforced. And before you ask why it should be enforced: think of the mental toll on people who witness these deaths, survive these accidents, are family members, see the body etc. Stupidity doesn’t give you the right to scar someone for life.
@@NinjaKhaos74 do you think that could be because we’re not allowed to think for ourselves anymore?
@@joeythemooseit's because of the decline in good education.
What is your evidence of us not being allowed to think for ourselves
mother nature was like "aight yall, it's pop quiz time, today's topic is natural selection"
I can assure you nature had no hand in the development of cars or freeways
@@prussiaball1871but it determines who lives and who died
@@prussiaball1871 it does have a hand in the development of ice.
@@prussiaball1871 I can assure you that joke flew over at 35,000 feet
@@Justsomegamergamingandstuff I understand it was a joke, but if you want a funny joke it needs to make sense
play stupid games, win stupid prizes
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u r smart
What's the stupid game? The dude practiced what he preached, which shows more conviction than anything you've ever done. I wish I could give you a wedgie for typing that attention seeking comment.
The only thing that is actually stupid is wanting an A moral institution, such as the government, to regulate your entire existence
Seat belts, especially automatic 3-point belts are probably the greatest safety advancement in motor car history. Even if you hit your head on the steering wheel or dashbord, or the engine gets rammed through the floor, a seatbelt will probably still save your life.
God save the inventors of seat belts.
Unfortunately sometimes it’s not just the anti seatbelt advocate who dies . A woman I worked with lost her daughter when a man ( the passenger ) was not wearing his seat belt . The driver collided with a barrier so hard the passenger flew through his wind shield and through the driver side window of the young womans car as she at a red light . The force of his head hitting hers destroyed her brain function .
She died several days later . He lived ….
a friend of mine was wearing his seatbelt when he ran over an old lady killing her in the spot.
@@tigrehermano - And if he hadn't been wearing a seatbelt, I'm sure he would've died too. Seatbelts save lives of the people inside the vehicle, they do not magically improve or correct the driving style of the vehicle owner. Hopefully, he was charged for manslaughter.
I'm curious... if a person is in a no fault accident (no one's drunk or crazy or texting or speeding - there's just a collision.) If another person in the crash dies, in the other car or a passenger of yours, how is the seatbelt issue applied to possible liability? Like if the deceased wasn't wearing a seatbelt, and in this case would certainly have survived if they'd been secured properly, does the surviving driver get punished for the error or the outcome? It's odd to express because I never thought of this until now... but I guess I'm saying I wonder if civil or criminal consequences might be rather different on a person when the was a death. I'm not trying to sound terrible I swear, but I mean... like it's not fair if you are in a collision and if the person wore a belt and survived you'd get points on your license or fined or have to take a class or whatever, but because that person who died was irresponsible or reckless or lazy or for whatever reason (having nothing to do with YOU or your conduct) and they're gone, you could be possibly criminally charged or face much, much harsher consequences than if the person behaved reasonably and wore their seatbelt. I hope this makes some sense. I never thought of this before so I'm struggling to be coherent!
@Annacolleen Etters ty
@@MeganVictoriaKearns you simply can’t force anyone to do anything, but you can always recommend them all to use the seatbelt. And even refuse to drive if they don’t use it.
As a 31-year funeral director, I can attest to the effectiveness of seat-belt and helmet laws.
The effectiveness is not in question here, it's whether you're a free man who controls his life or a government controlled bot doing your job as tax cattle?
No, you can't because you don't have any data. BTW. It is about freedom vs coercive force not protection vs no protection.
@@worldhello1234 - I might prefer that you don't wear a helmet or buckle-up.
@@worldhello1234coercive force in this scenario is very much justified, imo.
@@mattrost2574lol
My aunt is an ER doctor, there's a good reason why she's adamant about wearing seatbelts. I can only imagine the shit she's seen.
I've done some practice in the ER room. Can confirm. Every single night I've been there there was at least 2 cases of driving accident related injuries.
Can confirm. A lot of shit is seen in A&E.
I worked at a therapy pool. Saddest thing was kids permanently injured because they weren’t properly secured in the car.
@@MMathis Irresponsible parents are one of my least favorite things on this planet. Someone's kids shouldn't get hurt because their parent(s) was/were too inconvenienced to buckle a few seats in.
Seatbelts, much like laws are about reduction, not prevention. Wearing a seatbelt will not always make sure you survive, but it does attempt to keep you alive.
Untethered people become projectiles in car crashes. The people in the car with him are lucky the angle of impact threw him out of the vehicle instead of into one of them. And now instead of first responders coming upon an accident where all occupants survived, they have to have the traumatic experience of scraping a mangled corpse off of the pavement, and the state where he was driving had the added expense and equipment to clean up a fatal crash instesd of one where everyone survived. No, the seatbelt law isnt just about the person wearing it.
Yes, it is. Otherwise motorcycles wouldn't be allowed on the streets.
@@John_Buckmotorcycles don't have other people in the car with you
@@tesladrew2608 They also don't keep you from becoming a projectile and hitting someone else in another car.
Didn't think that through, did ya?
@@John_Buck any lack of consistency between motorcycle laws and car laws doesn't negate a single one of my points. Weve also never lived through a time where the number of motorcycles on the road has ever come close to cars. The same is true for the odds car occupants could projectile into one another versus the odds a motorcyclist projectiles into your car and hits an occupant inside. If those numbers and subsequent odds change, you'll likely see more urgency to update motorcycle laws too. And I will make the same points for helmet laws. Crashes don't just require state funding and resources for emergency rescue. Fatal crashes require in depth investigations, where the people who caused the crash usually aren't billed for that. The states that don't require helmets should do so for the same exact reasons.
@@Angry20Something It negates the whole point of seat belt laws. Plain and simple. If the argument is that I'll become a projectile in my car being unbuckled then that should apply to someone who has nothing around them and no seatbelt.
Who is more likely to suffer a fatal crash? An auto occupant or a motorcyclist? Yep, bikers are cool though, right? Leave them alone because you really care about everyone's safety. Right? Am I right?
When I took my driving license my group was required to sit in a car mounted to a mechanical arm that would slowly turn it upside down. This happened after we had to watch a compilation of videos showing gruesome accidents where the occupants would've survived had they worn seatbelts. It gave us all a massive appreciation for seatbelts. Also, three-point seatbelts were invented by a man from my country who worked at Volvo and he let all car manufacturers copy his invention for free in order to save lives.
When i took my license we were put in a "crash simulator" which was just a seat with a belt that went from 4kmh/2,5mph to 0 instantly. The force generated even from such a low speed was shocking, it didn't stop me from driving like an idiot, but it did make me automatically put on the seatbelt as soon as i step in a car no matter who is driving and how far the trip is.
Yes, but the still up to the person to use them
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 how does the death of the car passenger benefit society? That is why there are rules the mandates seatbelts (and so infringe on personal freedom). To make sure the people making up said society is a bit safer when driving cars.
@@affugter That's too vague and nebulous. Why not apply that reasoning to unhealthy foods? Obesity is a much bigger drain on society than unbuckled drivers.
And yes I realize that this comment is a year old.
I get the idea of "the government shouldn't keep you from doing something stupid if it only hurts yourself" but at least acknowledge that not wearing a seatbelt is stupid.
It is stupid but the government really has no right to tell me what I am doing inside of my private property
@@specialneedsmolester1957"rights" mean nothing. They're decided by the powerful. The only thing that matters is power. So yes, they certainly can and do decide that.
The same as I think riding a motorcycle, or going up in a hot air balloon, or getting fucking hammered on your 21st birthday is stupid
All.things I've done, all risky, all very fun/beautiful/exhilarating.
It puts the other people in the car at risk though
@@specialneedsmolester1957 what if you've built a underground meth lab on your private property?
When you dont do something just out of spite you are still controlled through it
There are some people who obstinately refuse to do whatever you tell them, simply because you TOLD them... We call those people five year olds.
I call them Libertarians, but I think the psych results would be the same.
Or free men.
@@GaryM67-71 Being free means making an informed choice regardless of what you've been told. Not cutting off your nose to spite your face, if the government says "don't swallow broken glass" and you feel compelled to immediately run out and do the opposite you are no more free from control and are an idiot.
@@geekehUK Strawman argument.
The magic power of negative suggestions.
Odin was like "nice opinions bro, lets see how they hold up in a real world test"
I agree with you comment, you make so much sense. It’s true- other ppl have to suffer for anti regs just so they can have what they want.
“ they want to get all the benefits of a government without giving anything in return. The libertarian doesn't have to follow any rules but everyone else needs to follow lots of rules to make sure the libertarian is comfortable and happy at all times. It's the political ideology of a toddler.”
it's not inconsistent with his position, and in fact he could also wear the seat belt while making the same argument... accident proves nothing, especially considering he said explicitly "no matter the consequences"
@@vsyncso the government shouldn't protect its citizens from known threats. Duly noted.
Classic ford exploder owner, not only not wearing a seatbealt but also owning one of the most rollover prone cars from the 2000’s
HAHA Ford “Exploder”
My buddy just got a sport trac and I swear when he tries to corner hard it looks like it’s going to topple
@@brycely2233 explore the world upside down, duh.
Being at the ripe age of 21, he probably didn’t consider things like that.
Ummmm, it was the tires. I owned a Ford Explorer (on the list for one of the longest running cars) for over a decade. One of the best vehicles I've ever owned. And I live in VERY hilly area.
Your posthumous "I told you so" is very classy.
i mean, bro drank the stupid potion. but at least he put his money where his wrecked car was.
Yes it was stupid not to wear a seatbelt but the problem is the government is FORCING us to wear seatbelts, everyone here is missing the message he was preaching
Nah its not really that stupid to say the government shouldn’t make laws where you would only harm yourself if you dont abide by them. Its like banning self harm its a weird takeaway of simple liberties
Regardless of if it is for safety obviously
@@watsoncouch3800 except you don't just hurt yourself.
if you have passengers in your car, and you get in an accident, you become an active danger to them. (possibly even more dangerous than simply getting in the accident itself, depending on how it happened.)
@@goose7244 my ragdolling corpse will pose threat? Dude thats really not changing my opinion that sounds badass
I was around in the beginning of seat belt laws, and people here in Texas were sometimes willing to go to jail, rather than wear one.
What convinced me was when my cousin had a wreck, going 30mph, and broke her nose. I decided I wasn’t going to risk my face getting messed up, and used my seatbelt religiously, from then on.
I had a wreck when I was 19 and wasn't wearing my seatbelt and I slammed my head against the windshield shattering it. My gf was wearing hers and she suffered an ankle injury from her tensing up her legs and her collarbone was bruised but she was fine. I didn't sustain any injuries but I wear my seatbelt to this day now at 48yrs old.
Right, you chose to do so yourself. That’s the point. You saw the consequences and decided that it’s not worth the risk and started wearing your seat belt. That’s exactly what this guy was arguing for.
@@ryanbolson23 ok, but what if you're riding in the back during the incident, and you end up decapitating someone in the front seat (which has been shown in crash tests)? Not that I think a body ejecting through the windshield doesn't create hazards for others near by.
@@kellywalker1664 I’m not arguing wether or not wearing a seatbelt is the correct decision, that’s irrelevant to his argument. It’s an apples to oranges. His argument is the government shouldn’t govern what decisions you can make for your own safety.
Having lose objects in your car during the moment of a crash can equally cause harm or decapitation, but there’s not a law about that is there? There’s not governmental powers searching cars and giving tickets for having potentially dangerous inanimate objects laying loose in the back seat in case you get in a high speed rollover accident, not that I’m aware off.
@@ryanbolson23 That was my motivation, at first. When I got older, I had a more compelling reason. When you have a seatbelt on, you’ll be more likely to keep control of your car in a tight spot. You won’t be at the mercy of inertia. If you do have a wreck, and you have your seatbelt on, you do not become a flying projectile, endangering other people.
It’s not just my choice. It’s my responsibility to others.
One of my ex girlfriends genuinely believed there was no evidence that seatbelts worked so she refused to wear them. Honestly learning that about her was one of the main reasons I started severely losing attraction to her
You dodged a nuke. Imagine if you had kids and she taught them they didn't need seatbelts
Bro everyone knows you got dumped, stop lying and move on.
That’s a dumb excuse, you just didn’t like her in general
@@AtlasSun777 dumping someone for not having critical thinking skills. Sounds legit to me.
If I find out something like being racist or not wearing a seat belt… dump ! Smarts is 1 on my list then ass.
He died to the thing he swore to destroy. How ironic.
One of the most if not a THE most important safety features in a vehicle, and so many people can’t take one second out of their day to use it. I don’t even have to think about it anymore, it’s just muscle memory.
Yeah it's so easy to buckle that I'll never understand people who don't fr
@@TSmith0048 it's just their mentality: "Ohh it won't happen to me I'll never be in a crash" "god will protect me" "seatbelts won't help anyways" it's sad tbh
i agree, i always wear one, bc i value my life. but having it mandated is kind of dumb. its just something else police can write a ticket for imo
@@Ghodum well, for exmaple if the passenger sitting behind you is not belted, they can kill you in a crash by crushing the back of the seat against you. It really is in all passengers interest for all occupants to be belted in because loose humans can become lethal projectiles in a crash.
@@Ghodum well typically laws are there to keep people safe, and this one is no exception. The only reason someone would be upset at seatbelts being mandated, would be if they are simply rebellious for no good reason.
Darwin awards are never far away from some individuals
That’s why this one was in the Darwin Awards. I remember that.
He didn't find out, he willingly chose his fate.
P.S. - I’m not saying his choice was a wise one, I ALWAYS wear my seatbelt, but I am saying it was( and should be) his choice to make.
He didn’t want the government taking away his right to fly through his windshield
@LankyLink You, no doubt, partake in at least one activity or vice that can kill you but I bet you don't want the government to stop you.
Was he a registered organ donor?
I think too many people forget it was his choice, not the govts.
@@20chocsaday not a chance lol
you kidding? these guys cant think of anyone else but themselves. he absolutely took himself off the organ donor list
he lived without the seatbelt, and died without the seatbelt.
Another fact, the person who created seatbelts did not paten it, and monopolies sales on it, because he realised how it would save lives
It was a Volvo engineer that invented the 3 point belt that we all use today. Before that it was lap belts if anything. Volvo made the decision to make the patent public property so that any company could freely use it
@@magnusmugnas9493 ah, thanks for clarifying. I knew I left some things out
Respect
@@magnusmugnas9493 I have thought about looking into a Volvo next after learning that fact a few years ago.
My buddies dad got in a wreck. He wasn't wearing a seatbelt and his passenger was. He flew through the windshield and survived. However she was wearing a seatbelt and got cut in half. Her body flew through the windshield and her legs stayed behind.
Seatbelts sometimes cause death and this is why we should have the right to choose
Yeah, I agree too... I also wear my seatbelt. But it's not because I might get a ticket otherwise.
Speed doesn't kill. Stopping does. You are the soft squishy thing in a metal box, belted you don't fly around.
Yes, it's not the accident that kills you, it's usually the sudden stop that does it.
@@nannie2846 Or when you get ejected and the car lands on your dumb ass.
Modern vehicles are built to take the brunt of a collision, which is a far cry from the older vehicles, some didn't even come with seat belts. I guess they figured those big old boats were built to take a crash, but forgot about the occupants, who weren't.
You can see some cars are so mangled beyond recognition, but the driver's compartments are usually intact, and crashes that surely would have killed, don't anymore. I'm amazed when I see some of the wrecks people actually walked away from, as opposed to the older cars that might have a damaged bumper, but everyone inside is dead.
No.
There's rollover where you get bashed around and dropping over the side of cliffs where you banging to things and get bashed around and might be dead before the car stops
Completely agree with him. When driving a non professional vehicle it should be 100% up to me whether I wear a seatbelt or not. The govt has no rights over my personal choices so long as they dont trample the liberties of others
But there’s no reason not to wear a seatbelt so why does it matter?
I appreciate you wearing your seatbelt while telling the story 🙂
The “Curb Your Enthusiasm” theme started playing in my head
That theme has surely been adopted by the Darwin Awards Association. It's perfect.
He stood by what he believed in no matter the consequences
Yeah but he could have been anti government seatbelt requirements while still electing, as an individual, to wear a seatbelt....I can be against a government law on saw blade guards without sticking my head in a band saw...
@@hilltaylor18 if you were against forced compulsion you are highly unlikely to be compelled.
@@scruffmcgruffthecrimedawg5661
Well yeah I wouldn't expect the guy trying to restrict seatbelt laws to be safety Steve, but the video seems to imply he was anti seatbelt LAW not just anti seatbelt...so I'll ask you: which do you think he stood up for no matter what: his hate of seatbelts, or his hate of the government overreach?
And died like a moron for it.
He could have killed his friends if he flew into them in a collision. That was reckless endangerment.
He stood by his beliefs until the day he died.
“Freedom of speech also means freedom to be an idiot”-somebody I don’t remember
This hasn’t got anything to do with freedom of speech
@@teo2157 You were today years old when you learnt about analogies.
doesnt mean freedom from consquences of being an idiot is also important to remember 😮😮
@@teo2157 a grasshopper might decided to fight a lawnmower
one may admire the grasshoppers courage but not his wisdom
@@teo2157 has more to do with other parts of 1st amendment protesting and grievences section
This is the definition of "you can't make this stuff up!"
"Always wear your seat belt" lies in the category of "rules written in blood"
100% Correct.
No. Safety precautions are the personal party’s responsibility, people lean on the government crazy hard for how bloodthirsty they are.
Well, at least he died free, outside government's interference.