It’s amazing to see this old edger saw working again after so many years of being out of commission. I really appreciate how you went into such detail about its components and the steps you took to get it back into working condition. The way you take the time to explain the adjustments needed, like the rollers and the worn-out teeth, shows how these machines can last for generations if they're properly cared for. It really makes you think about how much more durable older machinery was compared to modern products. Sure, they didn’t have the same level of automation or speed, but the materials and build quality are something we don’t always see in today's mass-produced equipment. It’s nice that you're continuing to use it, especially since so many people are all about upgrading to newer machinery without considering the value of preserving older tools. Of course, it’s not all about nostalgia-using this machine as it was originally intended actually saves time and money in some situations. It’s a testament to the idea that proper maintenance can extend the life of tools for generations.
That’s some real steel. Tarps hold moisture and cause great amounts of rust. Put it in the dry under a roof for a hundred years and more. You won’t be here. Love the old machines, especially the tractor still on steel. Sawmill strips were great for tree houses, forts, chicken coops, roost slats, tomato stakes and many other things.
I spent many hours on one side or the other of one of our old edgers growing up. Tableing is the key to getting your edger to run true. You align your gang saws ( some edgers can have 4 or 5 blades in them but 3 is the most practical. One set for 4.5 in that is fixed then the swing blade for all else. One of our edgers was in need of a rebuild back in 1981 i think it was and when we were moving that mill from one stand of timber to a new one we took the edger to the machine shop. Back then if the mill was down most didnt get paid but my grandpa letall the hands go to the machine shop for 4 working days to help and watch that edger get a rebuild.. his reasoning was if there was a problem with it in a remote site hehad a ful crew that understood the mechanics of how it worked when it was perfect. Also it made the hands respect how important that edger was. It also made sure the men could pay their bills and put food on their tables. At that time sawmilling in the woods was begining to phase out and most of the help were not very educated or in some instances of a criminal background who couldnt find work in non physical jobs. It was the hardest two dollars and fiffty cents a highschool boy could ever earn but i wouldnt take anything for the experiences i had growing up working the mills.
And having a lead out roller to stop the board from jumping like that under the last couple of feet. Great machine - probably a good thing they are not needed these days commercially - at least not set up like that, but a lot of fun and very practical at small scale.
I love this video. My dad always said running the belt with a twist is what keeps it on the pulleys. Probably because the outside edges are tighter than the center. That lumber from the outside of the tree is what pays for your expenses. Most amateurs can't figure that out. A small wood framework and a couple sheets of metal roofing would keep that machine from rusting away.
Thanks for the video. I ran into an edger real similar to that in a wrecking yard. I tried to buy it from the guy but he said he had promised it to someone else. I hope to find another one someday. I love your videos keep them coming.
Hi , you need an outfield table or roller as your timber leaves the in feed roller it's dropping at the rear of your machine and lifting up at the cutting point ,this is causing your saw blades to drop below the cut and smash the end of your timber length. See if you can lesson the tension on both feed rollers you don't need that amount of pressure. Great work and nice machine 👍
That was fascinating and I am so glad you are preserving history up north. It seemed to me the edger needed a table at the end to catch the board, and prevent snipe when a board clears the first roller. You are an amazing young man and I bet your father is special man as well.
Merci de prendre soins de cette machine .J ai un ancien moulin à scie qui fonctionne à l occasion .C est toujours un plaisir de faire fonctionner ces pieces historique.
Great to see a young fellow who appreciates old technology. Our pioneers had to do it the rough way. I regularly used to see planers and other equipment 100+ years old. Be aware of the exposed moving parts.
What a completely excellent video. Brilliantly explained with no detail left out, and at not to fast or slow pace. Great camera and audio work also. Relatively recently subscribed to your marvellous channel, and I'm so glad I did. Regards Mark in the UK
13:32 The radiator cap, take a gob of some Vaseline and smear it on the threads, in and out. Works the opposite of Loctite. Making crimp on electrical connections, a plastic squeeze tube of Vaseline squeezed into both ends give trouble free results. Keeps O2, H2O and Salt out, prevents galvanic action = corrosion.
You might want to ditch those grease zerks. That looks like babbit bearings. Keith Rucker just did a really good explanation about why you don't want grease with babbit bearings. The shaft is supposed to run on a film of oil, and never actually touch the babbit. Grease won't make that kind of a film for it to run on.
Old timer SAFETY tip: Pound a steel t-post on both sides of the drive belt where it crosses. It will help prevent the operator or standers by from getting killed or maimed from the belt when it jumps off.
Cool tools,. great explanation! Outfeed needs a table, the boards had a bounce after infeed roller making the end board kick and bite. Could add v-grove pulley and vfd electric motor for more control
Very cool, I remember seeing one of these machines at an old abandoned saw mill up in the bush when I was a kid, it was much worse for wear, the wooden stand had mostly rotted away. Subbed. Cheers from Tokyo Japan!
I'm thinking there was an out-feed roller missing (seems to be a build-up on the end of the wooden frame). Having an extra roller there would prevent some of the instability at the end of the cut that looked to be destroying the tail end of the boards. Maybe even a pair of out-feed rollers.
Nice old Equipment, be careful. Good question, draining the water from Tractor Radiator, I would think to use antifreeze, to prevent cracking the block on a freezing night. Water will still be in the engine block.
I used a edger like that for years and it is still working today the one I used was made by Mississippi mining company in 1896 well that is what the i.d plate says
I guess the machine could do with a outfeed roller to prevent the board from lifting over the circular saw blades as the board leaves the first set of powered rollers...
It's a pity I'm too old and broke, other wise I'd ask if you wanted to build a shed to house that equipment and get it all up to snuff. I'm a semi-retired timber framer, it'd be a fun job...we could even use on-site logs, milled right there by the very equipment that would be housed in the shed. The machine lacks an outfeed roller or ledge to support the boards as they emerge, that's why they tend to snap at the last moment. The arms in the center section that support the feed rollers, they seem to be missing a lever that adjusts the opening for larger stock, such as 2x or maybe even 4x material. Wouldn't be too hard to cobble together from materials on site. Looks like you can get new teeth for those saw blades, they are insert types. Keep it up, hope you get more views!
Cheers from Ireland. It’s a fascinating old machine, great to see and hear it working. Starting that tractor is definitely for young fit men! It would be worth re-tipping the blades, it would cut better and minimise the risk of kick-back. Is there any way to aim the board when you feed it in, is it just eyeballed? I noticed a pin by your right hip at the infeed end, is that aligned with the fixed blade.
@@Barnagh1 I’ve run another one of these machines and it has a kickback preventer in the form of angled spikes, but they also work as a gauge to align the board and blade. So far, this one is just eyeballed. Cheers!
@@castironmachines you could maybe put a line with a paint stick on the infeed rollers, corresponding with the fixed blade position, so as to get maximum value from the boards.
I couldn't see exactly what you did with the controls before starting the tractor, but it seemed like you didn't retard the ignition timing before starting. It really helps some engines when starting. Particularly when it's cold. But it ran really nice once it warmed a bit.
@@castironmachines @awldune I thought there might be some marks at the infeed to help you line up the boards. (Maybe there used to be?) If I had to operate that machine, I'd add some. Or maybe attach wire or something to that handle that controls the width.
Both the tractor and edging saw run very well. Glad to see the old iron being saved and put to work again. Thanks for the update, enjoyed watching.
Love it!
The best thing is this guy is young, he'll be doing this for 30-40 more years!
Awesome!
Until he discovers girls...
I love watching old machines working, really enjoy watching your videos. Cheers from Australia
It’s amazing to see this old edger saw working again after so many years of being out of commission. I really appreciate how you went into such detail about its components and the steps you took to get it back into working condition. The way you take the time to explain the adjustments needed, like the rollers and the worn-out teeth, shows how these machines can last for generations if they're properly cared for. It really makes you think about how much more durable older machinery was compared to modern products. Sure, they didn’t have the same level of automation or speed, but the materials and build quality are something we don’t always see in today's mass-produced equipment. It’s nice that you're continuing to use it, especially since so many people are all about upgrading to newer machinery without considering the value of preserving older tools. Of course, it’s not all about nostalgia-using this machine as it was originally intended actually saves time and money in some situations. It’s a testament to the idea that proper maintenance can extend the life of tools for generations.
That’s some real steel. Tarps hold moisture and cause great amounts of rust. Put it in the dry under a roof for a hundred years and more. You won’t be here. Love the old machines, especially the tractor still on steel. Sawmill strips were great for tree houses, forts, chicken coops, roost slats, tomato stakes and many other things.
that 3 wheeler will last forever also just take care of it, i love my Big Red
Thanks for the video. It nice to see old machine to run again.
I spent many hours on one side or the other of one of our old edgers growing up. Tableing is the key to getting your edger to run true. You align your gang saws ( some edgers can have 4 or 5 blades in them but 3 is the most practical. One set for 4.5 in that is fixed then the swing blade for all else.
One of our edgers was in need of a rebuild back in 1981 i think it was and when we were moving that mill from one stand of timber to a new one we took the edger to the machine shop. Back then if the mill was down most didnt get paid but my grandpa letall the hands go to the machine shop for 4 working days to help and watch that edger get a rebuild.. his reasoning was if there was a problem with it in a remote site hehad a ful crew that understood the mechanics of how it worked when it was perfect. Also it made the hands respect how important that edger was. It also made sure the men could pay their bills and put food on their tables.
At that time sawmilling in the woods was begining to phase out and most of the help were not very educated or in some instances of a criminal background who couldnt find work in non physical jobs. It was the hardest two dollars and fiffty cents a highschool boy could ever earn but i wouldnt take anything for the experiences i had growing up working the mills.
And having a lead out roller to stop the board from jumping like that under the last couple of feet. Great machine - probably a good thing they are not needed these days commercially - at least not set up like that, but a lot of fun and very practical at small scale.
I love this video. My dad always said running the belt with a twist is what keeps it on the pulleys. Probably because the outside edges are tighter than the center. That lumber from the outside of the tree is what pays for your expenses. Most amateurs can't figure that out. A small wood framework and a couple sheets of metal roofing would keep that machine from rusting away.
Fifty years ago I used a 1951 Massery Harris 30 on a 16" babbit planer to do my lumber and some for customers. I loved your video.
another part of living history in motion, nice to see old iron never dies!
Thanks for the video. I ran into an edger real similar to that in a wrecking yard. I tried to buy it from the guy but he said he had promised it to someone else. I hope to find another one someday. I love your videos keep them coming.
Hi , you need an outfield table or roller as your timber leaves the in feed roller it's dropping at the rear of your machine and lifting up at the cutting point ,this is causing your saw blades to drop below the cut and smash the end of your timber length.
See if you can lesson the tension on both feed rollers you don't need that amount of pressure.
Great work and nice machine 👍
That was fascinating and I am so glad you are preserving history up north. It seemed to me the edger needed a table at the end to catch the board, and prevent snipe when a board clears the first roller. You are an amazing young man and
I bet your father is special man as well.
That was really neat to watch thank you for sharing
Great video,I enjoy watching these old machines work. You do a great job explaining what they are and how they work. Thank you 👍
Hi was amused about your comment on space you have, from postage stamp property UK. Many thanks.
Merci de prendre soins de cette machine .J ai un ancien moulin à scie qui fonctionne à l occasion .C est toujours un plaisir de faire fonctionner ces pieces historique.
Great to see a young fellow who appreciates old technology. Our pioneers had to do it the rough way. I regularly used to see planers and other equipment 100+ years old. Be aware of the exposed moving parts.
That was awesome. You just don't see stuff like that any more. I just love the old school stuff
That tractor has the power steering option. You need a lot of power to steer it. Fantastic video!
In my neck of the woods it's known as Armstrong steering.
What a completely excellent video. Brilliantly explained with no detail left out, and at not to fast or slow pace.
Great camera and audio work also.
Relatively recently subscribed to your marvellous channel, and I'm so glad I did.
Regards Mark in the UK
13:32 The radiator cap, take a gob of some Vaseline and smear it on the threads, in and out. Works the opposite of Loctite. Making crimp on electrical connections, a plastic squeeze tube of Vaseline squeezed into both ends give trouble free results. Keeps O2, H2O and Salt out, prevents galvanic action = corrosion.
Another good video.Like to see the old machines run again., Thanks
Great eger old machines are great
I saw the smile of satisfaction when the old 10-20 finally started. Nice work. Greetings from central NC, USA.
Impressive. I'm glad to see an old machine like this saved and re-used. Thanks.
I am most impressed with your knowledge of the workings of the machine. Well done..
That tractor reminds me of the one on green acres! 😃
Nice demonstration !
Thanks for showing.
J.F.
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Love to see machines that can be kept running, without the need for dependence on ordering parts.
That tractor is amazing!!! 🚜 🙀
Wonderful video. Looking for used edger for my mill. Thank you for the video.
To preserve it this should come out of the elements. This is a Unicorn, being wooden and still intact. Kind Regards
All kinds of open geers,to get caught in,wow!!!
True, but that is the beauty of it.
You might want to ditch those grease zerks. That looks like babbit bearings. Keith Rucker just did a really good explanation about why you don't want grease with babbit bearings. The shaft is supposed to run on a film of oil, and never actually touch the babbit. Grease won't make that kind of a film for it to run on.
We met last summer at the Cumberland museum car show
It’s awesome to see you producing such awesome videos
Plz keep them coming
Old timer SAFETY tip: Pound a steel t-post on both sides of the drive belt where it crosses. It will help prevent the operator or standers by from getting killed or maimed from the belt when it jumps off.
very interesting.love old things.love the tractor
Great machine! Just amazing watching old iron still so capable. Ottawa Valley boy here too.
Great machine you need a car port to put it under.Probably find on e bay cheap aluminum poles with canvas!!!
just incredible. a testament to ingenuity and quality.
This made for an amazing video.....Thank you....
Old F-4 Shoe🇺🇸
Neat old machine, clearly pre-dates the invention of safety!
Cool tools,. great explanation!
Outfeed needs a table, the boards had a bounce after infeed roller making the end board kick and bite.
Could add v-grove pulley and vfd electric motor for more control
Very cool, I remember seeing one of these machines at an old abandoned saw mill up in the bush when I was a kid, it was much worse for wear, the wooden stand had mostly rotted away.
Subbed.
Cheers from Tokyo Japan!
Great video man! Thanks for sharing
I'm thinking there was an out-feed roller missing (seems to be a build-up on the end of the wooden frame). Having an extra roller there would prevent some of the instability at the end of the cut that looked to be destroying the tail end of the boards. Maybe even a pair of out-feed rollers.
I operated one when i was 20.
Old timers built what they needed and it lasts forever if you take care of it.
Time to get out the accordion !
Thank you for sharing
Nice old Equipment, be careful. Good question, draining the water from Tractor Radiator, I would think to use antifreeze, to prevent cracking the block on a freezing night. Water will still be in the engine block.
It's easy to forget , but there was a time when this was equivalent to walking on the moon.
I used a edger like that for years and it is still working today the one I used was made by Mississippi mining company in 1896 well that is what the i.d plate says
UNREAL , NICE VID
j adore ces vieilles mecaniques.bravo
Don't use grease in babbit bearings
I guess the machine could do with a outfeed roller to prevent the board from lifting over the circular saw blades as the board leaves the first set of powered rollers...
It's a pity I'm too old and broke, other wise I'd ask if you wanted to build a shed to house that equipment and get it all up to snuff.
I'm a semi-retired timber framer, it'd be a fun job...we could even use on-site logs, milled right there by the very equipment that would be housed in the shed.
The machine lacks an outfeed roller or ledge to support the boards as they emerge, that's why they tend to snap at the last moment.
The arms in the center section that support the feed rollers, they seem to be missing a lever that adjusts the opening for larger stock, such as 2x or maybe even 4x material. Wouldn't be too hard to cobble together from materials on site.
Looks like you can get new teeth for those saw blades, they are insert types.
Keep it up, hope you get more views!
Nice video and surrounds . Looks like the lack of a base plate below the work piece at the blade may allow instability.
very cool...
Reminds me of cranking my old T20
I was wanting to see it work
Cheers from Ireland. It’s a fascinating old machine, great to see and hear it working. Starting that tractor is definitely for young fit men! It would be worth re-tipping the blades, it would cut better and minimise the risk of kick-back. Is there any way to aim the board when you feed it in, is it just eyeballed? I noticed a pin by your right hip at the infeed end, is that aligned with the fixed blade.
@@Barnagh1 I’ve run another one of these machines and it has a kickback preventer in the form of angled spikes, but they also work as a gauge to align the board and blade. So far, this one is just eyeballed. Cheers!
@@castironmachines you could maybe put a line with a paint stick on the infeed rollers, corresponding with the fixed blade position, so as to get maximum value from the boards.
Nice video I enjoy watching these old machines run and thank you for rescuing them from the scrap yard.
Is a kick back preventer really needed? You have feed rollers above and below, on both sides of the blades... Aren't they already doing that job too?
A bit if a sharpen would help. That looked like the edges weren't so much cut off as beaten into submission!
Eric at BLUE Ox has one.
Interesting machine. It’s not hard to imagine where worker safety rules came from. Belts, pulleys, spinning gears, must have taken quite a toll.
I like your tractor -
What keeps the board running straight through the edger and not wandering as it passes between the blades?
How do you line up the board? There doesnt seem to be any fence or guide - just by eye?
Tarps,tarps,tarps, please. ❤
I couldn't see exactly what you did with the controls before starting the tractor, but it seemed like you didn't retard the ignition timing before starting. It really helps some engines when starting. Particularly when it's cold. But it ran really nice once it warmed a bit.
Too cool for school.
Los engranajes tienen los rayos como las desgranadora manual de maíz
Maybe build a saw shed for this one... It seems kind of a shame to leave it out in the weather like that....
It looks like those ripping blades have removable spring set teeth by the look of those strange holes. Am I wrong?
Interesting video! Is there evidence of a fence to guide the in feed and also to cover the fixed blade if your board already had one straight edge?
@@southernadirondackoutdoors no evidence on this one, but a grand idea. It is on the list for additional parts
23:18 Could you rebuild the saw mill behind you, please?
How do you line up the board so it hits the rollers going straight? Just eyeballing it?
@@madtitan9639 eyeballing it, yes. It might make more sense to build some sort of alignment jig.. to be determined
It is intended to take boards with live edges on both sides, so I think there is only so much a guide can do.
@@castironmachines @awldune I thought there might be some marks at the infeed to help you line up the boards. (Maybe there used to be?) If I had to operate that machine, I'd add some. Or maybe attach wire or something to that handle that controls the width.
The Amish use the edger on their saw Mills All the time! Very dangerous machine!!
Dig the tractor
anybody else see the face in the tree
Flat belt not running true on flat pulleys.
X 40 para rellenar ese diente
all I can see is all those gears grabbing clothing and fingers !
Goofy-tractor make goofy-start.
None of that stuff should be sitting outside