When I had passed my Instrument Rating over 20 years ago I asked an Air Hostess upstairs 1st Class on a Virgin Atlantic 747 if I could visit the flight deck I took my Licence with me when The Captain agreed so I was thrilled however he allowed me to sit in the Captain's seat for about 3 hours with the co pilot so he could have a sleep ! I can't imagine that being allowed now ! I forgot to get my licence signed damn but I can boast I flew left hand seat with co pilot and flight engineer. This is completely true and I felt like a King !
Roy C Horton In 1979 I was 10. I flew to Malta; the first time I ever flew (on 73'). I was a geeky "how, why" kid & the FA asked the captain if I could go up & he said yeh. I mean, can you imagine. He let me sit in the left seat but only for a minute or two. I'll never forget that experience. I'd so love to do it now that I know more... Bless that captain.....
On the maintenance side of things, we often drop the first 7 on the Boeings, the "57" or the "67" and the 777 we call a "trip 7". Were I am now we only have 2 flavors of Airbus, the 300 and 310 so we call those the "bus" and the "short bus". When ever someone, usually management, comes in for a base visit you hear the term "he/she is jumping in" or "they'll be jumping out" referring to using the jump seat. Of course on the maintenance side of things there is a whole other set of vocabulary words to learn. You could do an entire video series just on acronyms that anybody using or working on an airplane needs to know. Oh, and a lot of them change depending on the manufacturer! PD and ND or PFD and MFD, EICAS or ECAM, ACP or GCP or MCP, etc... and etc... Great video, I've been enjoying them.
When I was a fueler I handled (who I am sure is) your company, the wrenchbenders at that station called them 'the bus' and 'the baby bus'. The competition, I noticed, tended to follow the pilots on the boeing side, dropping the last 7, but my pops has been known to drop the first 7 (especially when talking about 757s), he's in maint w/ your competition.
I was in a group for a seminar about Geometric Dimensioning and Tolerancing (blueprint type), and the instructor flew all over the country, in his own plane. He said there are four general rules to flying: Blue side up, Pointy end forward, Keep the fans running, and When landing put the rollers down. I wonder if anyone else ever heard of these rules.
@@pooletrainboy bobtail is when you're driving without a trailer deadhead is when you're driving with an empty trailer... or a dead hooker in your lap, one or the other. I guess you could be bobtailing to another load which could also be called a dead head and if you're doing that with a dead hooker you could be bobtailing deadhead while getting deadhead.
well thats very nice of you Koala, I am making a new series answering common questions or concerns people have about aviation I hope you are subscribed so you see when it comes out.
Videos like this help a lot. I watch some of them and think "Hey! I already know that. I'm so smart!" Then, I'll watch a more technical one about crosswind landings or shooting an ILS, and I'm like "whaaaaat?" 🤷♀️😕
@@deeanna8448 im the same way lol...i see some things and i get them, then i watch another video and see something else that is totally foreign to me. i might only be in middle school, but i should probably figure out some of that stuff before i get out of high school, go to flight school, and become completely clueless lol
Hi Kelsey, Charlie- pilot here (Canadian). First off, I really enjoy and appreciate your content. I fly 406s, but I worked with the guys in the 705s, and I learned my aviation lingo that way. Up here we say the last 2 numbers for the equipment. I.e 37, 67, 87, 19/20/21, 30... 777 is just 'triple'... RJ is for referring to the CRJ, and we say E90 or E75 for the Brazilian. Also, Jumpseat at one point turned into simply 'jump' - "I'm gonna ride in the jump". 'FA' does get used in conversation without too much fret... See what happens is, speech gets shortened down to as little words as possible so our frozen jaws don't fall off in this forsaken 6 month tundra.
Lol ... yeah I know where I'd place my bet! One of my favourites is Lufthansa pilots flying to Africa, it is, of course, done extremely properly. During take-off and pre-flight the pilot's eyes are everywhere, very focussed, planning for problems and strictly sterile during these periods. A masterclass in SOPs and best practice imo.
I have one for you, Tarmac. I love how the media and pretty much everyone thinks there's an area of the airport called the tarmac. Every news outlet, whenever anything plane-related happens, that word will creep out. For some reason, they can't say runway, taxiway, ramp or apron.
Antonio Guerrero I am not a huge fan of using the term “ramp” either, because it is not an expression the FAA uses. Technically, it’s an outdated expression mainly used in the USA, so chances are, if you say “ramp” in Europe, people will be confused. The proper term is “apron.” It makes me cringe even more when I hear terms improperly used in videos and programs that specialize in aircraft and/or the airline industry.
Antonio Guerrero Now you are in my area of expertise. Tarmac is an OLD term, short for tar macadam. Macadam is gravel surfacing developed in the 1800’s by a Scot named McAdam. Then gravel was mixed with bitumens and called tarmacadam. Asphalt pavement is more correctly called asphaltic concrete.
I work IT at one of the Canadian Airlines and it's just good to know some things as you may have to work with someone that is a crew member. So having these learning videos helps.
I worked with a teacher who was also a FA. She often did Chicago turns after school during the week. She’s retired from teaching now, but is still an FA (she was an FA first).
One of the first things I learned is how easy it is to become disoriented in clouds. That you can think that the artificial horizon is incorrect and flip the aircraft. The instructor always said it is far easier to happen than you think and to drop your pen or clipboard if you are sure your indicator is not correct. BTW: the artificial horizon was a real ball in an oil filled glass back then and they did not always behave.
Great video! I find online written answers poor at explaining terms and It's nice to hear directly from a real pilot what certain things mean. I don't have any terms I have questions about, but I'm sure we all would love a part 2. Keep up the great work Kelsey!
The first was pretty interesting. Here in Germany we abbreviate the Boeing planes the other way around, we skip the first seven... and say "auf der drei sieben" oder die "acht sieben".
ya we are slowly growing, I have some really big video ideas for later in the year but I need the channel to be bigger first... thanks for being part of the 74 crew Mann!
Thanx for keeping it real. 3 questions to use for a laugh or 2. "What are the 3 things a pilot can never use?" 1. The air above you. 2. The runway behind you. 3. The fuel in the truck.
I have ride in the jump seat on LIAT airlines-Caribbean; im building a "disc copter" - it works on a vortex air system, ur info keeps me updated , im not a pilot yet but study alot of helicopter system and small plane system
Go-around :i think when the plane in the landing can't land because the wether or wind or sumthink.. You hear the pilote say let's go a round and it will climb and abort the landing and restart the landing over again
my pops did a lot of jumpseating a decade ago, he was bumped from his station b/c seniority, so he would jumpseat from home to the hub and back every week. He'd fly in, do 3-13 hour shifts, then fly out for home, spend 3 days home, then back to the hub to fix more planes
in that movie while Frank is in the plane with carl, he says he can see runway 44. which is not a possible number for a runway. 36 is as high as it can go because there is 360 degrees of a circle. not 440!!! just pointing that out...
In Spain, crew who doesn’t live in their assigned base, can fly as an extra crew (not necessarily in a JS), and the act of flying from your home town to your base and viceversa is referred as to “balsear” which could be translated as “boating”
ahhh cool Diego... I didn't know that. I have heard from a few of my friends they have gotten permission to ride in the JS with some airlines there but I have never tried it. Thanks for teaching me that! I know legs are sectors there right? I just didn't want to get to complex and start having to make it too long of a video!
As a new pilot, I used to be an airport police for many years. In F.A.R schooling, I asked "Does souls on board, Those NOT from Arkansas and Not wearing shoes?" Actually most common carriers, including Trains also transport Human remains to the destination for burial. If there was a deadly crash and aircraft was carrying dozens of dead bodies in the cargo area, they were too added to the deaths and would NOT be accurate. I very much enjoy your channel and videos. Keep up the great info, and ignore the jealous hatters.
You should go over the hand signals that pilots should know to communicate with the ground crew. Seems like the only one they can remember is ground power disconnect.
Neato! Thank you for this information! I've loaded and unloaded, and pushed out planes, and have been on a cleaning crew, and I've heard a lot of those phrases, but not knowing what they meant, and now I do! Yay!
I’m glad you explained legs. When I saw it on the list I assumed you were talking about the actual aviation term “leg” referring to traffic pattern legs or flight plan legs.
I work on the ramp and we can use jump seat with flight attendants but not in the cockpit. On The Ramp, the term Turn mean we have 30-45min on the ground to offload and upload bags and get the plane back in the air.
ya thats right... turn the plane.. good point aviation I know thats a term you guys used... felt like a pit crew would hit the plane at some airports you guys moved so fast 🤣
Good video. Funny thing is that I always used the industry standard definition of turn as an out and back to the hub. But it’s different here. Leaving the hub and coming right back is an out and back. But a turn is starting at an out station, flying into the hub, and “turning” out to another out station. So we would call a SDF-MEM-MDT in the middle of the night an “AM Hub Turn”.
As a trucker we use deadhead. But for us it means running with an empty trailer. Also your saying "Keep the blue side up" is very similar to our saying "Keep the clean side up, dirty side down" Also we use "Turn-n-burn" the same way you use "Turn"
Little add on for "turns", in New Zealand at least, they're referred to almost exclusively on jets as "double bangers" or "bangers". Haven't heard it from turbo prop guys, but certainly from A320s to 777s a typical day of AKL-BNE-AKL would be a "Brisbane double banger".
Hey Dude, also a 74 pilot mid layover NYC, so awake at 02:00 as still on uk time. How many A380 pilots does it take to make a great landing at SIN? Two to fly the jet, two heavy crew to criticise and one to tell them all how much better it was on the Jumbo. Stay safe.
Always enjoy your videos... Looking now at some of your older ones...This one being 5 years old you've been doing this so long that new equipment slangs have emerged. Along with "Triple 7" going against the naming norm, I hear 737 Max aircraft now just called "Max"
Kelsey, some clarification on the "deadhead" term needed! Back in the '90s, I flew (as a passenger) out of Denver to Orlando early one Saturday evening on a Delta L-1011. I thought it was peculiar that there appeared to be only four (4, including myself) passengers on this particular flight, and that the pre-flight safety presentation was given on a distant movie screen. In fact, it wasn't until we had taken off that I even saw a FA over in another isle. I fell asleep, woke up later as we approached the west coast of Florida, hit the FA button to get something to drink, and when the FA appeared, she apologized because "We didn't know anyone was back here - we're flying deadhead to OIA". Now, I understood what your definition of "deadhead" said in your video, but I still wonder about flying a huge airliner like the L-1011 to OIA complete with a flight crew & twice as many FAs as we had passengers. I guess they needed to get the plane & entire crew down to the Land of the Mouse, so, we'll deadhead in style! 🤔🤔🤔🤔
You are so nice in replying to most of the comments, I really feel you are doing this out of passion and I respect that. In the last few months I have been learning a lot from you and others about aviation, I watched the movies you commented on, and I enjoyed every bit of it. I wish I could meet you in person. I live in Japan, so if you ever come by, it will be my honor to take you out for say... sushi? anything you like! I have 3 pilot friends (all JAL , though one moved from JAL to JAS or something like that, he's on a health leave for diabetes, he's my neighbor and our dogs are really good friends, the other 2 are my horseback riding friends). If all works out and you can come, I might be able to arrange you meet one them, depending on their schedule; they are really wonderful people. Anyways, I hope you will get your single engine certification, Back to School! still way to go though, I will share your vids on FB. Wishing you all the best in your endeavors. A fan from Japan!
I fly to Japan all the time Daniela usually Narita or Nagoya, its a great great country really pilot people and so kind to me while I am there. Thanks so much for sharing, some of the videos on here are filmed in Nagoya like the Cast Away video I filmed that one in Nagoya and I fly JAL often if you go onto my IG page you will see a gift I received from the crew once. Very classy.
Not words, but acronyms... My dad was a pilot, and he'd use an acronym, CIGAR TIPS pre-flight. Another one I'd hear when working at an FBO (there's another!) is a QT, a quick turn-around.
Yes.... Got the video notification while I was hitting the head. Perfect time to relax and catch up on 74 gear, this made my day. Great video. Digging the intro also.
I remember a TV show episode from 1977, To Tell the Truth, with the man who actually pulled off the peccadilloes portrayed in the movie, Frank W. Abegnale It's on UA-cam.
I also forgot to mention I completely agree with you about the jumpseat being uncomfortable! I feel like the cabin jumpseats are better tho than the flight deck ones. I've sat in the flight deck jumpseats from takeoff to touchdown as an Fa on repo flights and it killed my back lol
@@74gear yes!! Omg I would literally crack up seeing pilots jump seating in the 145's. They were like on top of each other. I also flew on the Emb 135's but I dont think they even have jumpseats. I know they def didnt in the cabin. I didnt fly on those a lot bc those we flew once in a while going through IAH and other parts of Texas. (I was EWR based)
Hmmm. I was a truck driver for around 10 years and "Deadhead" means something kind of different. In trucking it means traveling without a load. I.E. if a driver were to drop off a load and then was going to be routed to his home terminal for time off they would attempt to find a load taking him in that direction. If unable to find a load for him they would "deadhead" him home meaning they'd just let him go without a load to get him home. When deadhead came up on the screen I was thinking it would mean a crew was going to take an empty plane from one airport to another.
so when we move an empty plane we call it a repo for repositioning which also means something else for truck drivers.... 😆 thanks for watching and commenting Larry.
KTBSU or Keep The Blue Side Up is also a pilot term that means stay positive, or you're on a 'good track' and keep doing what you're doing. Or at least in my experience it has been used that way, and I use it that way. Because even as you explained, if you don't have the blue side up, you're not doing too good!
Twenty years ago I use to do a lot of flying for work. I use to request UAL flights as I could listen to ATC comms during flights. As I am a little bit of a geek, I loved listening to the back and forth between the pilot and the ATC centers. There was one flight where I heard the pilot call out for a report on air conditions. A reply came back from an AA pilot stating that there was chop for about 40 miles once you get past Cleveland. Cleveland Center(?) then told our pilot that he was cleared for 39 if he wanted to go for it. Our pilot said, "Naaa. We can take it." I didn't think anything of it until about 15 minutes later when we hit some above average turbulence. I watched the flight attendants spill coffee on themselves and passengers. I was wondering I should tell the flight attendants what I heard. What was really impressive was listening to SFO approach control. That guy was giving instructions to three different aircraft in quick succession. Some of the instructions were strange ... "UAL 7654 descend and maintain 3000 ft. Contact me when you see the bridge." Bridge? Does approach control use landmarks like this often?
ya in some places like NYC is a great example they use landmarks on the ground to help them. And I am sure the pilots wouldn't have gone to 39 if they thought it was going to be bumpy. taking care of the FAs is a pretty high priority for myself and many pilots.
@@74gear I agree with pilots wanting to care for the flight attendants and passengers, but it is the 1% that ruins the reputation for the rest of the group ... and not just pilots. ;-)
I'd like to know why some aircraft call signs are followed by "heavy", and also why British Airways flights always seem to call themselves "speedbird". Do all airlines have nicknames? Love your vids!
"heavy" and "super" tells you that it's going to a bigger than usual airplane, and that it will create wake turbulence which means that any aircraft behind them is going to have to give them extra space to avoid getting caught up in it o-o (super being stronger than heavy, just to clarify it's not the same thing) Not sure why they specifically call themselves "speedbird", but the bird part is because that's what was adopted as their callsign back when their logo was still a bird (and before BA became BA) and they decided to retain it. Not all have nicknames (which I think is lame in some cases because some could have really cool nicknames if they wanted o-o)
Get well soon! The only word that I can think of that I don’t know is Ramp. Is that the runway, the taxiway, the run up area? I heard some airline pilots say it at Oshkosh but didn’t wanna look dumb and ask.
Clif Roberts , Ramp (sometimes called tarmac) is the area at the airport where planes are parked, serviced, etc. Typically associated with the gate area. It’s a U.S.- centric term. Apron is the more universal term. I believe, and check me on this, that the derivation comes from the early days of aviation when seaplanes were more common, and there was a real, well, ramp that connected the water to the shore. Hope this helps!
So many acronyms, just a few more a passenger may pick up while waiting in a terminal. Equipment, Non-Rev(standby), slot, HOT (holdover time), reserve, crash pad.
AOA ( airport operations area) Really enjoying the vids. Practicing my mental math for X-Wind landings while studying for my CFI written. Passed the Commercial written Tuesday!
As an ATC I used to get gigged on my tape-talks for dropping the last 7 on Boeings when calling traffic. My excuse was always what you said... all Boeings end in a 7 and if I could shorten the transmission at all I would be saving time. It used to get rather busy at LAX.
Hey Cap! Congratulations, your channel has improved a lot, not just the intro but also the way you speak, more enthusiastically, you catch the attention easily. I’m gonna subscribe and follow you from now on. Keep going with this great work
ya it has been a process trying to learn how to talk to a camera and do everything and make my information more engaging and helpful. I am glad you have seen the improvements thanks so much for watching!
I would guess that they would have no /legal/ responsibility. The crew member in the jump seat might be from a different airline, or not type rated on the aircraft in question, or maybe could be a flight attendant rather than a pilot. Any of those could cause problems with requiring them to assist. That being said, I'm sure that a crew member in a jump seat WOULD jump in to help if the situation warranted it. However, I imagine that events where that has been needed are vanishingly rare in the modern era of commercial aviation.
Ha.... on keeping the blue side up my response back to the screen has been, "and the rubber side down". But, then, I'm a motorcyclist and we're touchy about dinging, scraping or in any way scuffing the shiny bits.
The term "Seven Four" for 747 made me smile. I'm at a company and have been through a couple of mergers. Just about every pilot in the industry says "Seven Four" but there are some operators out there that will drop the FIRST 7 and call it the "Four Seven". It's definitely a minority, but it exists. If you know a bit you may very well know what airline they came from (years and years ago) from that one little piece of terminology. As for me I've always said "Seven Four". Of course I now say I fly the "Three Twenty". Your work continues to get better and better! Fly safe!
thanks hedge, I have heard pilots say 47 as well... and I just look at them and want to say... you are doing it wrong but who am I to tell them, there's no official way to abbreviate it... but maybe if 74 Gear gets huge that'll pressure them to say it our way... 74!
When I worked in operations at United, company lingo was to drop the first seven and speak the remaining digits as a single number--so a 747 became a "forty-seven", 767 a "sixty-seven", and so forth. When I initially started work there this seemed odd because I'd always heard it the other way, as the video describes. I also commonly hear 777 simply abbreviated to "triple".
When talking to airport/airline related people (not necessarily pilots) is also common to drop the last 7 even in Spanish. But it's also because we don't say seven sixty seven or seven fifty seven, we spell each number separately like seven six seven or seven four seven. For Airbus is the same as in English: three twenty, three eighty, three fifty...
I would really love if you could do a video on the different taxi way terms like Alpha and Victor Loop or even Lima. If you could touch on what it means when you hear atc or a pilot say join mike ground .75 would be amazing as well
It’s the NATO phonetic alphabet, which helps prevent confusion on letters over radio…it’s used in aviation & military, or pretty much anything that requires precise radio communications.
When the video started, I was just thinking your voice was different which you also confirmed later on. Guess I've been binge-watching your videos since I noticed right away... :D
It refers to size indirectly-what it more directly indicates to other plane traffic is the amount of air turbulence it creates around it ... like a boats wake. If a plane is a heavy or a super, it means other planes have to give extra space around it ... for a super extra extra space around it :)
At my legacy carrier, we used to call the Boeings by the first two numbers, as explained in the video. However, pilots at the other legacy carrier which our company merged, called them by the last two numbers, instead. For us, it was the seven-two, seven-three, seven-five, etc. For them, it was the two-seven, three-seven, five-seven, etc. Never did know exactly why that was.
Is standby ever used? Every time I check in at DHL ORD security asks if I'm their standby. We use standby in trucking if we're picking up at an e-commerce warehouse incase there's more orders than can fit in a single trailer for a given run. Air freight doesn't have that since the weight and volume are known. I always say, "Sure, I'll fly if you need me. I just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express." Even though ist obvious I'm not a pilot with a full beard and sporting the logo of their primary contractor.
When I had passed my Instrument Rating over 20 years ago I asked an Air Hostess upstairs 1st Class on a Virgin Atlantic 747 if I could visit the flight deck I took my Licence with me when The Captain agreed so I was thrilled however he allowed me to sit in the Captain's seat for about 3 hours with the co pilot so he could have a sleep ! I can't imagine that being allowed now ! I forgot to get my licence signed damn but I can boast I flew left hand seat with co pilot and flight engineer. This is completely true and I felt like a King !
Roy C Horton In 1979 I was 10. I flew to Malta; the first time I ever flew (on 73'). I was a geeky "how, why" kid & the FA asked the captain if I could go up & he said yeh. I mean, can you imagine. He let me sit in the left seat but only for a minute or two. I'll never forget that experience. I'd so love to do it now that I know more... Bless that captain.....
Where did he sleep?
@@HappyQuailsLC In the crew room with beds.
I don't want to 'like' this great comment because there are......74 Likes!
So when are you doing a colaboration with captain joe?😃
maybe when the channel gets bigger he will want to do a video with me 🤔
Two 747 Pilots... Now that's one helluva an episode
@@largesoda1729 uhm? Captain Joe is an A380 pilot.
@@xxxxxGhostBoyxxxxx I don't know if this is a joke or not...
@@74gear if u guys do like that one guy said u guys are both 747 pilots🤷♂️
On the maintenance side of things, we often drop the first 7 on the Boeings, the "57" or the "67" and the 777 we call a "trip 7". Were I am now we only have 2 flavors of Airbus, the 300 and 310 so we call those the "bus" and the "short bus". When ever someone, usually management, comes in for a base visit you hear the term "he/she is jumping in" or "they'll be jumping out" referring to using the jump seat. Of course on the maintenance side of things there is a whole other set of vocabulary words to learn. You could do an entire video series just on acronyms that anybody using or working on an airplane needs to know. Oh, and a lot of them change depending on the manufacturer! PD and ND or PFD and MFD, EICAS or ECAM, ACP or GCP or MCP, etc... and etc...
Great video, I've been enjoying them.
When I was a fueler I handled (who I am sure is) your company, the wrenchbenders at that station called them 'the bus' and 'the baby bus'. The competition, I noticed, tended to follow the pilots on the boeing side, dropping the last 7, but my pops has been known to drop the first 7 (especially when talking about 757s), he's in maint w/ your competition.
I was in a group for a seminar about Geometric Dimensioning and Tolerancing (blueprint type), and the instructor flew all over the country, in his own plane. He said there are four general rules to flying: Blue side up, Pointy end forward, Keep the fans running, and When landing put the rollers down. I wonder if anyone else ever heard of these rules.
We truck drivers have dead head too.Its when we head to another location with an empty trailer to pick up a load.
I thought that was bob tail?
@@pooletrainboy bobtail is when you're driving without a trailer deadhead is when you're driving with an empty trailer... or a dead hooker in your lap, one or the other.
I guess you could be bobtailing to another load which could also be called a dead head and if you're doing that with a dead hooker you could be bobtailing deadhead while getting deadhead.
Truck Driver tanker driver to be specific feel pilots and truck drivers have alot in common.
in fluid systems dead heading is when a pump is pushing a fluid into a shut valve.
For someone who has always had a fear of heights and repressed his anxiety when he flew, I want this guy the pilot my plane.
well thats very nice of you Koala, I am making a new series answering common questions or concerns people have about aviation I hope you are subscribed so you see when it comes out.
I second that!
I am starting my PPL training this weekend!
That is fantastic Dee Anna... as you go along if you ever have questions feel free to leave me a comment on here I will try to get back to you
Videos like this help a lot. I watch some of them and think "Hey! I already know that. I'm so smart!" Then, I'll watch a more technical one about crosswind landings or shooting an ILS, and I'm like "whaaaaat?" 🤷♀️😕
@@deeanna8448 im the same way lol...i see some things and i get them, then i watch another video and see something else that is totally foreign to me. i might only be in middle school, but i should probably figure out some of that stuff before i get out of high school, go to flight school, and become completely clueless lol
Dee Anna Good luck!
Passed your written yet?
0:45 I was wondering. Your voice was deeper than usual.
Same
I thought I had some activated some EQ on my browser or something.
I noticed that too. I kinda like it even better than his usual voice. Too bad it happens only when he has the cold.
Maybe his voice was breaking?
The 777 is just called “the triple”. AKA the only Boeing that is dyslexic proof.
Kent Krizman doog to know.🤣
As long as that isn't confused with a triple engine MD10 or MD11. They could call it 21 or jackpot too....
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Hi Kelsey, Charlie- pilot here (Canadian). First off, I really enjoy and appreciate your content. I fly 406s, but I worked with the guys in the 705s, and I learned my aviation lingo that way. Up here we say the last 2 numbers for the equipment. I.e 37, 67, 87, 19/20/21, 30... 777 is just 'triple'... RJ is for referring to the CRJ, and we say E90 or E75 for the Brazilian. Also, Jumpseat at one point turned into simply 'jump' - "I'm gonna ride in the jump". 'FA' does get used in conversation without too much fret...
See what happens is, speech gets shortened down to as little words as possible so our frozen jaws don't fall off in this forsaken 6 month tundra.
🤣 ya I am not a huge fan of the Canadian winter for sure but strange how different the words we use... thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
I think we will never defeat him during staring contest.. jk ;D
Ajim Amin i agree haha
Lol ... yeah I know where I'd place my bet! One of my favourites is Lufthansa pilots flying to Africa, it is, of course, done extremely properly. During take-off and pre-flight the pilot's eyes are everywhere, very focussed, planning for problems and strictly sterile during these periods. A masterclass in SOPs and best practice imo.
Lmao. Haha he dose not blink
I feel threatened
As a general rule, most people in the aviation business have beady eyes.
I have one for you, Tarmac. I love how the media and pretty much everyone thinks there's an area of the airport called the tarmac. Every news outlet, whenever anything plane-related happens, that word will creep out. For some reason, they can't say runway, taxiway, ramp or apron.
Antonio Guerrero I am not a huge fan of using the term “ramp” either, because it is not an expression the FAA uses. Technically, it’s an outdated expression mainly used in the USA, so chances are, if you say “ramp” in Europe, people will be confused. The proper term is “apron.” It makes me cringe even more when I hear terms improperly used in videos and programs that specialize in aircraft and/or the airline industry.
@@theamazingchampyt Interestingly though, there still aren't any _apron_ agents around
I think I'd rather get ramp checked than apron checked;-)
Antonio Guerrero Now you are in my area of expertise. Tarmac is an OLD term, short for tar macadam. Macadam is gravel surfacing developed in the 1800’s by a
Scot named McAdam. Then gravel was mixed with bitumens and called tarmacadam. Asphalt pavement is more correctly called asphaltic concrete.
@@theamazingchampyt ramp and apron are two different areas
I work IT at one of the Canadian Airlines and it's just good to know some things as you may have to work with someone that is a crew member. So having these learning videos helps.
Love the new intro & editing you’re evolving into a fantastic aviation UA-camr
very kind of you Hoodini, like everything it takes time to get good but I am glad you are seeing the improvements!!
At last I know what "Keep the blue side up" means!! Thank you, Kelsey.
When laying sod, it's "green side up"
I worked with a teacher who was also a FA. She often did Chicago turns after school during the week. She’s retired from teaching now, but is still an FA (she was an FA first).
Every profession has their “inside language” and you did an excellent job explaining that of career aviation.
Thanks, bob
I was an EMT and we had a phrase also of "blue side up" .. every time Kelsey says it in videos I think of my EMT training. 😊
Yeah true, some pilots refer to passengers and cargo as « packs »
sthfuup
One of the first things I learned is how easy it is to become disoriented in clouds. That you can think that the artificial horizon is incorrect and flip the aircraft. The instructor always said it is far easier to happen than you think and to drop your pen or clipboard if you are sure your indicator is not correct.
BTW: the artificial horizon was a real ball in an oil filled glass back then and they did not always behave.
Great video! I find online written answers poor at explaining terms and It's nice to hear directly from a real pilot what certain things mean. I don't have any terms I have questions about, but I'm sure we all would love a part 2. Keep up the great work Kelsey!
glad you enjoyed it Safye... thanks for watching!
The first was pretty interesting. Here in Germany we abbreviate the Boeing planes the other way around, we skip the first seven... and say "auf der drei sieben" oder die "acht sieben".
hmm interesting... well now we both learned something today! 😂
Im totally impressed by the quality your videos kelsey. Keep em coming!
well they have come a long way, still working to improve them though, but thanks so much for watching AMB.
It's like motorbikers when we say keep the rubber side down and the shiny side up which is basically just stay safe
I'm not even a pilot, but I know those terms DeCaprio used were common in that time. Puddle jumpers were the little propjets used by the regionals.
Wow, I only subscribed to you a few weeks ago when you were at 21,000 subscribers. Good to see your channel growing.
Your content is great!
ya we are slowly growing, I have some really big video ideas for later in the year but I need the channel to be bigger first... thanks for being part of the 74 crew Mann!
198k now 😁
@@LordInter And now 677 😆
Thanx for keeping it real. 3 questions to use for a laugh or 2. "What are the 3 things a pilot can never use?"
1. The air above you.
2. The runway behind you.
3. The fuel in the truck.
Airspeed you don’t have.
You should collab with Captain Joe, you both have common topic
So Sully talking about the Hudson was in the end relevant to the security of the flight :D
I have ride in the jump seat on LIAT airlines-Caribbean; im building a "disc copter" - it works on a vortex air system, ur info keeps me updated
, im not a pilot yet but study alot of helicopter system and small plane system
Most important word in aviation is “coffee”.
I am starting on my ppl today at aviation adventures (South Africa) very exited;)
very exciting Gabriel... please tag me on IG after you solo so I can congratulate you
Thank you Kelsey, I will definitely do that!!!
Gabriel Roos How is it going, are you done? I’ll start next year in Pretoria/ Wonderboom Airport
Two important words....1. unable. 2. Go-around
A-firm, copy that!
10-4 rubber ducky
3. Pitch up
4. Stick shaker
5. Aerodynamic stall
6. Rapid descent
7. Shit we're dead
8. BIRDS!!!!!
Go-around :i think when the plane in the landing can't land because the wether or wind or sumthink.. You hear the pilote say let's go a round and it will climb and abort the landing and restart the landing over again
my pops did a lot of jumpseating a decade ago, he was bumped from his station b/c seniority, so he would jumpseat from home to the hub and back every week. He'd fly in, do 3-13 hour shifts, then fly out for home, spend 3 days home, then back to the hub to fix more planes
Every pilot’s favorite phrase:
“Which way to the bar?”
Paul Actually now it’s “Which way to the gym?”
Turn left, heading all the way through law school.
Turn left on Echo and follow company.
Whats your vector Victor?
The book, Catch Me if You Can, ironically, is what inspired me to enter aviation.
please do a part two of this!
in that movie while Frank is in the plane with carl, he says he can see runway 44. which is not a possible number for a runway. 36 is as high as it can go because there is 360 degrees of a circle. not 440!!! just pointing that out...
In Spain, crew who doesn’t live in their assigned base, can fly as an extra crew (not necessarily in a JS), and the act of flying from your home town to your base and viceversa is referred as to “balsear” which could be translated as “boating”
ahhh cool Diego... I didn't know that. I have heard from a few of my friends they have gotten permission to ride in the JS with some airlines there but I have never tried it. Thanks for teaching me that! I know legs are sectors there right? I just didn't want to get to complex and start having to make it too long of a video!
can you do a similar video idea but instead, talk about different types of planes (ex:747, 767, a350, etc.)
As a new pilot, I used to be an airport police for many years. In F.A.R schooling, I asked "Does souls on board, Those NOT from Arkansas and Not wearing shoes?" Actually most common carriers, including Trains also transport Human remains to the destination for burial. If there was a deadly crash and aircraft was carrying dozens of dead bodies in the cargo area, they were too added to the deaths and would NOT be accurate. I very much enjoy your channel and videos. Keep up the great info, and ignore the jealous hatters.
You should go over the hand signals that pilots should know to communicate with the ground crew. Seems like the only one they can remember is ground power disconnect.
Neato! Thank you for this information! I've loaded and unloaded, and pushed out planes, and have been on a cleaning crew, and I've heard a lot of those phrases, but not knowing what they meant, and now I do! Yay!
heeeyyy very cool, glad it was helpful Hellen, thanks for subscribing and commenting, I appreciate it!!
I’m glad you explained legs. When I saw it on the list I assumed you were talking about the actual aviation term “leg” referring to traffic pattern legs or flight plan legs.
I work on the ramp and we can use jump seat with flight attendants but not in the cockpit. On The Ramp, the term Turn mean we have 30-45min on the ground to offload and upload bags and get the plane back in the air.
ya thats right... turn the plane.. good point aviation I know thats a term you guys used... felt like a pit crew would hit the plane at some airports you guys moved so fast 🤣
This was awesome, also can you do a video on traffic patterns and positions? ie final, base, left base, downwind etc. I’d appreciate that 👍🏼
ok sure, thats a good idea too RB... thanks for watching!
My day just gets better when kelsey posts a new vidéo
thanks SB5 thats very kind of you!
Good video. Funny thing is that I always used the industry standard definition of turn as an out and back to the hub. But it’s different here. Leaving the hub and coming right back is an out and back. But a turn is starting at an out station, flying into the hub, and “turning” out to another out station. So we would call a SDF-MEM-MDT in the middle of the night an “AM Hub Turn”.
hmm interesting how crews at different airlines use them differently...
As a trucker we use deadhead. But for us it means running with an empty trailer.
Also your saying "Keep the blue side up" is very similar to our saying "Keep the clean side up, dirty side down"
Also we use "Turn-n-burn" the same way you use "Turn"
1:46 did actually see a CVR transcript where one of the pilots said "GET the blue side up" but unfortunately they weren't able to do that
Little add on for "turns", in New Zealand at least, they're referred to almost exclusively on jets as "double bangers" or "bangers". Haven't heard it from turbo prop guys, but certainly from A320s to 777s a typical day of AKL-BNE-AKL would be a "Brisbane double banger".
Great video!! I've been very curious about these terms 🙂 Also funny moment, 10:11 Darth Vader voice activated 😂
I really enjoy these videos and alot of these terms work just about the same in the ground logistics industry
These are really good videos and it is valuable to repeat them. So much good information from Kelsey.
Hey Dude, also a 74 pilot mid layover NYC, so awake at 02:00 as still on uk time. How many A380 pilots does it take to make a great landing at SIN? Two to fly the jet, two heavy crew to criticise and one to tell them all how much better it was on the Jumbo. Stay safe.
My flight experience is San Andreas to Las Venturas but this channel is underrated
Best channel for the layman on UA-cam. Thanks for the content Captain.
really nice of you to say Eric, thanks for watching!
OMG ! This man does not blink
Always enjoy your videos... Looking now at some of your older ones...This one being 5 years old you've been doing this so long that new equipment slangs have emerged. Along with "Triple 7" going against the naming norm, I hear 737 Max aircraft now just called "Max"
Kelsey, some clarification on the "deadhead" term needed! Back in the '90s, I flew (as a passenger) out of Denver to Orlando early one Saturday evening on a Delta L-1011. I thought it was peculiar that there appeared to be only four (4, including myself) passengers on this particular flight, and that the pre-flight safety presentation was given on a distant movie screen. In fact, it wasn't until we had taken off that I even saw a FA over in another isle. I fell asleep, woke up later as we approached the west coast of Florida, hit the FA button to get something to drink, and when the FA appeared, she apologized because "We didn't know anyone was back here - we're flying deadhead to OIA". Now, I understood what your definition of "deadhead" said in your video, but I still wonder about flying a huge airliner like the L-1011 to OIA complete with a flight crew & twice as many FAs as we had passengers. I guess they needed to get the plane & entire crew down to the Land of the Mouse, so, we'll deadhead in style! 🤔🤔🤔🤔
You are so nice in replying to most of the comments, I really feel you are doing this out of passion and I respect that. In the last few months I have been learning a lot from you and others about aviation, I watched the movies you commented on, and I enjoyed every bit of it. I wish I could meet you in person. I live in Japan, so if you ever come by, it will be my honor to take you out for say... sushi? anything you like! I have 3 pilot friends (all JAL , though one moved from JAL to JAS or something like that, he's on a health leave for diabetes, he's my neighbor and our dogs are really good friends, the other 2 are my horseback riding friends). If all works out and you can come, I might be able to arrange you meet one them, depending on their schedule; they are really wonderful people. Anyways, I hope you will get your single engine certification, Back to School! still way to go though, I will share your vids on FB. Wishing you all the best in your endeavors. A fan from Japan!
I fly to Japan all the time Daniela usually Narita or Nagoya, its a great great country really pilot people and so kind to me while I am there. Thanks so much for sharing, some of the videos on here are filmed in Nagoya like the Cast Away video I filmed that one in Nagoya and I fly JAL often if you go onto my IG page you will see a gift I received from the crew once. Very classy.
I'm starting my training from January. Really excited about it.
Aadrit where?
Me: *does a roll in my f22 raptor*
Me: sees the ground in the sky and the sky in the ground
Not words, but acronyms... My dad was a pilot, and he'd use an acronym, CIGAR TIPS pre-flight. Another one I'd hear when working at an FBO (there's another!) is a QT, a quick turn-around.
Yes.... Got the video notification while I was hitting the head. Perfect time to relax and catch up on 74 gear, this made my day. Great video. Digging the intro also.
thanks Brandon, glad you are liking the videos!
I remember a TV show episode from 1977, To Tell the Truth, with the man who actually pulled off the peccadilloes portrayed in the movie, Frank W. Abegnale It's on UA-cam.
I love finding old videos I haven't seen. Very well done. 👌
Thank you Kelsey for explaining these terms. :)
Love your videos! Starting flight school this spring.
fantastic Dylan looking forward to see your progress!
@@74gear Thank you! Ill comment major updates along the way.
I also forgot to mention I completely agree with you about the jumpseat being uncomfortable! I feel like the cabin jumpseats are better tho than the flight deck ones. I've sat in the flight deck jumpseats from takeoff to touchdown as an Fa on repo flights and it killed my back lol
🤣 ya some are better than others but some of them are sooooo small! or feel like they're made of brick somehow
@@74gear yes!! Omg I would literally crack up seeing pilots jump seating in the 145's. They were like on top of each other. I also flew on the Emb 135's but I dont think they even have jumpseats. I know they def didnt in the cabin. I didnt fly on those a lot bc those we flew once in a while going through IAH and other parts of Texas. (I was EWR based)
Hmmm. I was a truck driver for around 10 years and "Deadhead" means something kind of different. In trucking it means traveling without a load. I.E. if a driver were to drop off a load and then was going to be routed to his home terminal for time off they would attempt to find a load taking him in that direction. If unable to find a load for him they would "deadhead" him home meaning they'd just let him go without a load to get him home. When deadhead came up on the screen I was thinking it would mean a crew was going to take an empty plane from one airport to another.
so when we move an empty plane we call it a repo for repositioning which also means something else for truck drivers.... 😆 thanks for watching and commenting Larry.
@@74gear Oh wow! Yeah for a trucker who owns his own truck "repo" definitely has a different meaning and it isn't good. LOL Thanks Kelsey.
I want to know more information about trim wheel
You should check our warthunder man, it's awesome if you love classic planes and whatnot
KTBSU or Keep The Blue Side Up is also a pilot term that means stay positive, or you're on a 'good track' and keep doing what you're doing. Or at least in my experience it has been used that way, and I use it that way.
Because even as you explained, if you don't have the blue side up, you're not doing too good!
exactly thats true Tommy thats another use of the phrase as well!
Twenty years ago I use to do a lot of flying for work. I use to request UAL flights as I could listen to ATC comms during flights. As I am a little bit of a geek, I loved listening to the back and forth between the pilot and the ATC centers.
There was one flight where I heard the pilot call out for a report on air conditions. A reply came back from an AA pilot stating that there was chop for about 40 miles once you get past Cleveland.
Cleveland Center(?) then told our pilot that he was cleared for 39 if he wanted to go for it.
Our pilot said, "Naaa. We can take it."
I didn't think anything of it until about 15 minutes later when we hit some above average turbulence. I watched the flight attendants spill coffee on themselves and passengers. I was wondering I should tell the flight attendants what I heard.
What was really impressive was listening to SFO approach control. That guy was giving instructions to three different aircraft in quick succession. Some of the instructions were strange ... "UAL 7654 descend and maintain 3000 ft. Contact me when you see the bridge."
Bridge?
Does approach control use landmarks like this often?
ya in some places like NYC is a great example they use landmarks on the ground to help them. And I am sure the pilots wouldn't have gone to 39 if they thought it was going to be bumpy. taking care of the FAs is a pretty high priority for myself and many pilots.
@@74gear I agree with pilots wanting to care for the flight attendants and passengers, but it is the 1% that ruins the reputation for the rest of the group ... and not just pilots. ;-)
@@74gear By the way, excellent series. I am learning a lot.
Your voice scared me 😂
My husband is a truck driver and when he has to come into the truck yard and then immediately head back out he calls it a “turn & burn”. Lol.
Superb video. Big thank you. Can you do a video translating the communications with ATC or in-flight between pilot and FO?
Thank you for the love you put in this videos, Thank You, our great Pilot.
happy to do it 18, glad you enjoyed the video!
I'd like to know why some aircraft call signs are followed by "heavy", and also why British Airways flights always seem to call themselves "speedbird". Do all airlines have nicknames? Love your vids!
"heavy" and "super" tells you that it's going to a bigger than usual airplane, and that it will create wake turbulence which means that any aircraft behind them is going to have to give them extra space to avoid getting caught up in it o-o (super being stronger than heavy, just to clarify it's not the same thing)
Not sure why they specifically call themselves "speedbird", but the bird part is because that's what was adopted as their callsign back when their logo was still a bird (and before BA became BA) and they decided to retain it. Not all have nicknames (which I think is lame in some cases because some could have really cool nicknames if they wanted o-o)
@@LadyTarasque Wow I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing!
@@AshleyReinhardt I'd have to give credit to a user's comment in an ATC vid o-o but yw :3
You missed 'WAGD' as in "we're all gonna die!!!" Every pilot should know this for when that mountain wants to give you a hug
Love this vid and all your other work Kelsey. Keep it up!
Get well soon!
The only word that I can think of that I don’t know is Ramp. Is that the runway, the taxiway, the run up area? I heard some airline pilots say it at Oshkosh but didn’t wanna look dumb and ask.
Clif Roberts , Ramp (sometimes called tarmac) is the area at the airport where planes are parked, serviced, etc. Typically associated with the gate area. It’s a U.S.- centric term. Apron is the more universal term. I believe, and check me on this, that the derivation comes from the early days of aviation when seaplanes were more common, and there was a real, well, ramp that connected the water to the shore. Hope this helps!
Tomgio is correct! thanks for the help!
Absolutely useful and I love this video, thank you Kelsey!!!
So many acronyms, just a few more a passenger may pick up while waiting in a terminal. Equipment, Non-Rev(standby), slot, HOT (holdover time), reserve, crash pad.
those are some good ones if I do a part 2 video thanks Michael!
AOA ( airport operations area) Really enjoying the vids. Practicing my mental math for X-Wind landings while studying for my CFI written. Passed the Commercial written Tuesday!
As an ATC I used to get gigged on my tape-talks for dropping the last 7 on Boeings when calling traffic. My excuse was always what you said... all Boeings end in a 7 and if I could shorten the transmission at all I would be saving time. It used to get rather busy at LAX.
Good stuff man, I can’t wait to get my flying dream job.
I look forward to you getting that too!!
Hey Cap! Congratulations, your channel has improved a lot, not just the intro but also the way you speak, more enthusiastically, you catch the attention easily. I’m gonna subscribe and follow you from now on. Keep going with this great work
ya it has been a process trying to learn how to talk to a camera and do everything and make my information more engaging and helpful. I am glad you have seen the improvements thanks so much for watching!
Question - Does a crew member in the jump seat have any responsibility to help the flight crew in case of a problem or emergency?
Nah, let them fall to their deaths.
I would guess that they would have no /legal/ responsibility. The crew member in the jump seat might be from a different airline, or not type rated on the aircraft in question, or maybe could be a flight attendant rather than a pilot. Any of those could cause problems with requiring them to assist. That being said, I'm sure that a crew member in a jump seat WOULD jump in to help if the situation warranted it. However, I imagine that events where that has been needed are vanishingly rare in the modern era of commercial aviation.
Just to jump in historically, it has happened in aviation accidents and near misses where on board crew riding jumpseat have stepped in to assist.
Was a great video Kelsey 👍 same as always. Keep it up dude.
Thanks Daniel, I appreciate it.
Ha.... on keeping the blue side up my response back to the screen has been, "and the rubber side down". But, then, I'm a motorcyclist and we're touchy about dinging, scraping or in any way scuffing the shiny bits.
RJ, FA, what is this, a periodic table for pilots?
The term "Seven Four" for 747 made me smile. I'm at a company and have been through a couple of mergers. Just about every pilot in the industry says "Seven Four" but there are some operators out there that will drop the FIRST 7 and call it the "Four Seven". It's definitely a minority, but it exists. If you know a bit you may very well know what airline they came from (years and years ago) from that one little piece of terminology.
As for me I've always said "Seven Four". Of course I now say I fly the "Three Twenty".
Your work continues to get better and better!
Fly safe!
thanks hedge, I have heard pilots say 47 as well... and I just look at them and want to say... you are doing it wrong but who am I to tell them, there's no official way to abbreviate it... but maybe if 74 Gear gets huge that'll pressure them to say it our way... 74!
When I worked in operations at United, company lingo was to drop the first seven and speak the remaining digits as a single number--so a 747 became a "forty-seven", 767 a "sixty-seven", and so forth. When I initially started work there this seemed odd because I'd always heard it the other way, as the video describes. I also commonly hear 777 simply abbreviated to "triple".
How about just using the middle number? :-) Do Airbus pilots drop the first number for their aircraft type as well?
So where does Boeing go after the 797? Does it become the 808?
Is the big jet called a PJ? Passenger Jet? =P
When do you get to upgrade?
Hope you feel better soon
Thanks Hannah, I am back to normal now!
When talking to airport/airline related people (not necessarily pilots) is also common to drop the last 7 even in Spanish. But it's also because we don't say seven sixty seven or seven fifty seven, we spell each number separately like seven six seven or seven four seven. For Airbus is the same as in English: three twenty, three eighty, three fifty...
I would really love if you could do a video on the different taxi way terms like Alpha and Victor Loop or even Lima. If you could touch on what it means when you hear atc or a pilot say join mike ground .75 would be amazing as well
well those words you are hearing are simply the different taxi ways on the airport and the way there are named that's all Will.
It’s the NATO phonetic alphabet, which helps prevent confusion on letters over radio…it’s used in aviation & military, or pretty much anything that requires precise radio communications.
As Usual Another great video Kelsey it's an honor watching !✈
When the video started, I was just thinking your voice was different which you also confirmed later on. Guess I've been binge-watching your videos since I noticed right away... :D
Thanks for your vids! I always wondered why pilots or ATC end a call sign with "heavy." Like "This is Cactus 229 Heavy...." What does that mean??
Gabriel A. Just means that the aircraft is large/ heavy
It means the passengers are fat
It refers to size indirectly-what it more directly indicates to other plane traffic is the amount of air turbulence it creates around it ... like a boats wake. If a plane is a heavy or a super, it means other planes have to give extra space around it ... for a super extra extra space around it :)
At my legacy carrier, we used to call the Boeings by the first two numbers, as explained in the video.
However, pilots at the other legacy carrier which our company merged, called them by the last two numbers, instead.
For us, it was the seven-two, seven-three, seven-five, etc. For them, it was the two-seven, three-seven, five-seven, etc.
Never did know exactly why that was.
Is standby ever used?
Every time I check in at DHL ORD security asks if I'm their standby. We use standby in trucking if we're picking up at an e-commerce warehouse incase there's more orders than can fit in a single trailer for a given run. Air freight doesn't have that since the weight and volume are known.
I always say, "Sure, I'll fly if you need me. I just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express." Even though ist obvious I'm not a pilot with a full beard and sporting the logo of their primary contractor.