Why . He s protecting himself . I m a pro musician . Many times in the south we played near pro wrestling events n met a few wrestlers @ clubs/ bars Pro musicians n Pro wrestlers face same dangers off stage / out -of -the ring .WE PROTECT OURSELVES > ANY MEANS NECESSARY > my intention s to come home to way I left . Good health & intact .
I can 100% confirm Jim's account of ring security. I worked security at the St Louis Arena, (Checkerdome), from 1985-1993. At every wrestling show we were stationed in the 4.corners by the ring and usually 6 of us doing ring escort to and from.
I’ll never forget that fan jumping in the ring during the ladder match between Eddie Guerrero and Rob Van Dam in 02’ where the fan knocked Eddie off the ladder.
@@SamsarasArt shit, I wouldn't want to fuck with any of the refs, let alone wrestlers. No doubt they've probably learn a thing or two from the boys, and a bunch of other stuff making them tough bastards.
The time the guy jumped in the ring with The Shield and just stood there behind Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose. The guy was in full Shield gear too like he was a member!
@Steven Weathers Yes, it’s definitely been used a lot. Thanks for the other examples of this angle. The Hillbilly Jim one was most memorable to me because that’s around the time I started watching WWF.
@@bradpaton3927 If I remember correctly, Santon got the call to the Big Leagues after an incident in OVW which saw Cornette back away from OVW after he slapped Santino
I remember that fan that attacked Raven in WCW while he was doing one of his corner promos. I love how after security subdued the guy, Raven just went back to his promo like nothing happened…
Ive seen raven get jumped more than Few times. That one episode one WCW someone just throws a entire drink in his face as he's walking down the isle. He took it well, wipes his face and kept walking.
@@ByrneMJames This must be from the same program that had a question about Sid not being recognized as an all-time great. Brian was being sarcastic here.
I remember the Macho Man Vs Ted Dibiase match in a Steel Cage. A fan got _so mad_ about Dibiase and Virgil cheating in that match he jumped the rail and tried to stop Virgil interfering.
I saw a fan jump in the ring at a live event. I was front row. The guy started waving to people and Dean Malenko took his arm placed it behind his back and leaned on him faced first into the turn buckle until event staff got him.
One of the stories was that Freddie was getting some serious heat, and somehow ended up in the wrong locker room, where Bruno was hanging out with some, shall we say, heavies. So one heavy pulls out a gun and asks Bruno if he can plug Freddie. Bruno says "Nah, I'll get him in the ring" and literally saved Freddie's life.
I remember when I was watching wrestling as a kid. It always seemed like the guys that would jump into the ring always got such a stiff attack from the wrestlers, and I was taken aback at how brutal it would get. Some wrestlers would just try to cover them up and protect the fan too, but I understand why for both.
If you watch some of the interviews back then concerning bounties that wrestlers put another wrestlers I'm always surprised that fans didn't attempt to cash in. Harley Race (bounty on Ric Flair) or Ric Flair (bounty on Jerry Lawler) had interviews were they begged anybody listening to "take out" the person in question for a huge cash prize. It's just surprising that no one attempted to cash in outside of the wrestling ring.
I'm sure people did try. There's so many instances of wrestlers being attacked in parking lots that at least a couple might have been people thinking they could collect a bounty.
I saw an event where Legacy (Orton, Cody, Ted Jr.) faced Kofi Kingston & Cryme Tyme. Two guys seated in the corner tried to jump Randy as he came out. Randy wailed on the two as Cody & Ted watched. The cops pulled the men away to save them from the wrath of Orton!! 🤣🤣
Didn't the "History of Fans Jumping in the Ring" start when wrestlers, back in the Carnival days, would actually challenge fans to get in the ring and wrestle them? The first few takers were Carnival employees who would make the wrestler seem beatable. So when the, typically big and dumb, "Hometown Hero" would step into the ring, all his friends _knew_ he could beat the wrestler. Until the wrestler actually used legit submissions to make the local boy tap out and/or pass out.
And if the wrestler couldn't take him for whatever reason, brawl the rube outside so another carny could give him a whack with a board across the back of the head. That's less what they're talking about here though and led to the "fan challenges" heels used to do up until the 80's. I seem to recall a clip of Corny talking about King Kong Bundy doing a "Body Slam Challenge" where fans would try to body slam Bundy for a cash prize. Of course those were usually angles to get a heel over or build up a potential match (in the style of Iron Shek's Persian Clubs or Lex bodyslamming Yokozuna on the aircraft carrier).
Didn't "Little House On The Prairie" do an episode on this carny wrestling bit? With the late Merlin Olsen being tossed around by the shoot wrestler when the circus came to Engels' Town
Jim's talked about fan challenges/wrestler challenges. He doesn't like them, most of the time, for liability reasons, once citing a soldier who was getting stretched out and decided to cheat and bite the wrestler's finger off. The wrestler, naturally, got angry and started beating the soldier even worse, which lead to a riot.
That’s a different type of fan-in-the-ring situation. The carnival situation, the fan was practically invited in. I remember Corny talking about this back in Midsouth where there was a standing challenge: any fan could go backstage and sign a release and get in the ring. The only problem was Watts would always put Dr. Death in the other corner. Good luck, buddy. But that’s a totally different situation than a fan trying to storm the ring because of some heat that heels got.
I’m in the process of reading Bret Hart’s book and he mentions one particular time during his days in Stampede when he and brother Keith I think it was wrestled a tag match against Dr. D Dave Schultz and Dynamite Kid. The Hart brothers were red hot and had the crowd eating up every second of the match until the finish where the crooked ref missed a cane shot from Dr D and the Harts took the fall. Whole place came unglued as angry Calgary fans and cowboys began to storm the ring. Dr D wound up breaking his cane in two he was swinging so hard and Kid just started punching the shit out of anyone who got close enough like the pit Bull he was. By the end the two heels were back to back holding off the mob until Stu and security could come down to calm things. Great stuff man.
I read something somewhere that Harley Race was one of only two people Andre was afraid of. The other was Haku. If Andre wouldn't mess with them then nobody in their right mind should either.
@@postersandstuff True but Andre wasn't afraid of BNB. He wouldn't have been saying the N word if he was afraid of him. Andre, from what I understand, said and did things because he could and if you stood up to him he respected that. Kamala told a similar story. Andre was being an asshole and unnecessarily stiff with Kamala and Kamala had enough of it and threatened to shoot Andre. After that had no problems with each other though Kamala never fully trusted Andre wouldn't try something with him. Andre let Kamala bodyslam him which is something that he only let people he liked do to him.
My brother and I recently watched Starrcade 96 and a fan hits the ring during the main event to get at Hogan. Hogan gets a few kicks in on him but it's mostly the referee grabbing him, getting in a few shots and then shoving him out of the ring to the security staff. What's interesting is that earlier in the show Sting is walking through the audience and he kind of bumps into a guy fairly hard and the guy is on camera for a few seconds and looks really pissed off about it. At the time we thought it was odd that Sting would bump a fan like that but later when the fan hits the ring I'm 99% sure it's the same guy! So maybe he was trying to start something with Sting or he's just a jerk and wouldn't move aside so Sting body checked him. Or the bumping was accidental but the guy got all worked up about it and eventually hit the ring later in the show.
Fun story my father told me, sometime in the 70s or maybe 80s jimmy hart was at memorial gym hazard Kentucky and my father was a police officer on duty for the show. No one informed him hart was going to interfere from the crowd with a ball cap on and he hit hart with a slap jack lol
"I can get some attention and my friends will remember it" ...then go to jail end up with a criminal record and look back on it in 20 years when you're still working the register at McDonald's and wonder why your life went down the tubes after that happened.
To tell you the truth wrestlers been Marking Out over themselves since the late 1970s.. Got even worst in the late 1980s.. Marking Out over self didn't start yesterday..
This is like when people get on stage at music shows to stage dive or whatever, it was tolerated and sometimes encouraged in the '80s and '90s then the guitar player from Pantera/Damage Plan got shot by some nutcase on stage and the whole thing started to look like a bad idea. Not to mention when a spectator gets injured or killed, then someone wants to sue or put somebody in jail.
What happened to him and The Midnight Express with a overly drunk fan at Clash of the Champions was memorable when Jim said he, Bobby (RIP), and Stan are gonna save his life by letting him go home, and sleep it off.
I was at a Nitro in 98' and announcer told audience that throwing anything in the ring would not be tolerated. They really did not emphasize it much after that.
I went to 2 WCW Monday Nitros were the last match had NWO beating the hell out of Luger, or whoever after the bell. And people were straight launching full and half bottles of water and soda! People on the front row were getting bombarded! Dangerous times
Cool to know that Beautiful Bobby Eaton front face locked a 300lb fat boy in Biloxi, MS. My hometown area. I've heard several stories about how bad Biloxi was/is as a wrestling town.
I Love to See ‘ Mr. Cornette swing that Tennis🏸 Racket 😂🤣😂😂🤣😂😂 Sheik an Funk kept Heat an Pipper ‘ Wait Wait He Knocked-out An Kick A Ole Man In The Nabbs😂🤣😂😂😂
I grew up in Lake Charles. The Mid South shows were rowdy for sure and a blast. And if the rock n roll Express was wrestling you knew it was gonna get crazy
My dad always loves to tell me about the time Mr. Fuji kicked a drunk guy off the ropes at a wrestling show he was at and sent him flying to the ground
One of my personal favorite fan jumping in the ring moments when some jackoff tried to push Eddie Guerrero off a ladder during a match with RVD and Eddie even got a punch in while Earl Hebner and the rest were dragging him off and of course King with the classic "He's Canadian what do you expect JR?"
In WCCW I watched Terry Gordy floor a Fan with out ever breaking stride. Brody was a part time face and big as hell no one would do more then yell at him (depending on who he was in the ring with)
I often wonder what the thought process of a wrestling fan is who tried to go after guys like Bruiser Brody, Harley Race or Haku. I mean where in the thought process does does it seem like what they're about to do is a good idea?
@@AWX_Wrestling As a 7 yo I stood next to both Terry Gordy and Brody They were huge ( I know I was smaller back then) at 6'5 now They are still huge. Beer goggles and its hard to believe that someone thought about it at all before doing it and still did it.
When I went to ECW shows Atlas Security always looked like some bad ass dudes that you didn't want to mess with. Saw them drag a guy out when he took a swing at Bubba Ray Dudley. Watched a guy during a WCW show hopped the barricade and climb the cage during a Sting vs Hogan match at the Palace of Auburn Hills.
Some of those same guys work Security for all The Wrestling Shows at the same building in Philadelphia. I've seen Ring of Honor Shows, House of Hardcore Shows, Impact Wrestling Shows, New Japan Pro Wrestling Shows, Combat Zone Wrestling Shows and other Wrestling Shows in that building now named 2300 Arena and you see the same Security Personnel for each show.
@@JuliusC1973 OH yeah I remember they were all dressed in black including work/combat boots. Also had to go through a pat down when you went through the door. Actually I watched Sandman handle a guy who was getting to pushy for autographs after the show in the alley behind the Seagate Center in Toldeo
I'll never forget that idiot that tried tackling Bret at the HoF. Best part of that though was Cash/Dash punching him in the face as he was getting carried out.
I always found it funny that WWE cuts the fan run-in during the Bash at the Beach 96. Dude was pissed with the Hogan heel turn and found out the hard way.
Hmm hands on two back pockets and pull…. Thanks Jim that’s great advice for some future ribbing to do lol. All serious though, this is a real education, and this is something I feel all wrestling fans should hear before even attending a wrestling event.
I saw on one of my wrestling dvds where Randy Savage and Ted Dibiase had cage match and Vigil would climb the cage every time Savage tried to escape. One of the times he was on the side of the cage some kid climbed up behind Virgil and started hitting Virgil in the back and the cops grab the kid. I think it was at MSG.
There's one on UA-cam where Giant and Hogan were beating on Piper during a match and a dude jumped the barricade and nearly took out DiBiase. Hogan saw it and ran to the ropes and he and the ref took out the fan.
My first time going to the matches we were a couple rows back from ringside and I look over and a little old lady jumped up and hit George The Animal Steele with her purse as he was walking to the ring 😂😂😂
One time we were at this building where the entryways for the faces and the heels led off of this weirdly constructed, kind of confusing short hallway which led to the single dressing room. One night there was a tag match going on with Larry Santo and David Baker heeling on somebody, I forget who, and this little girl of about 6, who was morally certain she had just entered the babyface door, burst breathlessly into the dressing room and hollered "THEY NEED HELP OUT HERE!!" and then she realized she was looking at me, Hot Property Mike Mitchell, Gene Spurlock and Memphis Mafia Danny Marlo. Thank God we were all heels. She went "EEEEK" and fled.
I remember going to cwa show in Memphis and fan jump in the ring to help Jerry Lawler and moondog cujo hit that guy with a trashcan lid I was laughing the whole time
anybody as old as me remember when a fan not only jumped the rail but got to the top of the cage - Flair vs Jimmy Garvin when Precious was the stip. Doug Dillinger let his guard down
I remember so many fan run ins. The fan who tried to storm the ring at Bash at the Beach 1996 when Hogan went to the dark side and formed the NWO, the fan who somehow got backstage and stopped in front Batista and did his machine gun thing then high tailed with security after him. Bret got attacked at the Hall of Fame by a fan. I remember on an episode of Raw a fan got in the ring and Triple H beat the crap out of him before security got in the Ring. During a Match with Undertaker I think, he knocked out a fan who jumped the rail
Jim Cornette's interviews with Ron Fuller are freaking priceless. EXTREMELY ENTERTAINING!!! HIGHLY RECOMENDED!!! Plenty of stories about fans jumping into the ring. One of the funniest was when a riot started, and the police officer jumps in the ring and points his gun at one of the wrestlers, and that's just before the gun gets knocked out of the cops hands and lands in the rioting crowd. Thank you Mr. Cornette for those great interviews.
Wish that Jim had told the story again about his encounter with the old lady that came after him with the plastic chair. 😂😂 if you don’t know what I’m talking about look at the older Jim episodes and see if you can find it. It also reminds me of the “Story Time With The Tennessee Stud” little mini series thing they did where Ron Fuller told the story of when he was working and a guy stood up and pulled out a gun and shot at the ring twice and the cop present didn’t do anything about it and when they asked the cop why he didn’t go get the guy. The cop replied that it was some old timer that everyone knew in that town and he was on heck of a good shot. The cop just said “ He’s such a good shot that if he had wanted to hit them, he would have.” 😂
A paraphrased quote from colin quinn seems fitting here "human intelligence has progressed exponentially, human nature has not progressed one iota thats why we can build the hubble telescope and see pictures of distant galaxies but we still need armed guards at the zoo so no one jumps a fence and kicks a polar bear in the balls so they can be a youtube sensation"
I remember one time, I went to a spot show in Aibonito, Puerto Rico. king Kong Mosca was wrestling a masked guy named the "Super Gladiador(Omar Atlas)"". I saw this drunk guy going to the ring area and sat down at the time keeper's table . Immediately after the match, he went directly to King Kong Mosca & pushed him. Mosca began to flail & punch him until he was dragging himself to the seats. It was hilarious!
At a Georgia Championship Wrestling house show in Saginaw, MI. back in the early 80s, I seen an old man rush up and punch Paul Ellering in the back, while he was on his way to the ring (Ellering just looked at the old man like he was a dumbass). The police jumped right on the guy, and Nick Patrick (who was that match's referee) instantly started hollering to the police officers, "We want him arrested, and yes, we are pressing charges!" It blew my mind how fast it all happened!
I think this was December of 01'. Baby Face Rock/Stone Cold are on a tag team against Heel Jericho/Angle. Jericho is at the edge of the ring before Angle's entrance music starts and a fan jumps and hits Jericho before being tackled by security and Jericho starts winding up to slug the guy. The camera quickly cuts to Rock/Austin, who were waiting in the ring, and they are both covering their faces because they're laughing so hard.
My grandpa’s friend would always brag that he almost reached out and grabbed one of the Malenkos 🤣 he really thought he could take him! Poor guy would’ve probably got tied in a knot!
SWCW in the 80s.. We had a old woman that would sit right on the front row with a damn umbrella and smack every heel she could. I think it was Erick Embry when he was with rhe Fabulous Blonds who yanked that shit from here and threw it 20 rows back.
I wonder if they regret introducing guys like hillbilly Jim, earthquake, Steve Blackmon, and so on. I would think that would promote the idea of being able to jump in.
I Only Went to 4 Wrestling Shows in My Life & At the 3rd One, which was a Taping of RAW in October 2012 a Fan Tried to Get in the Ring and The Security Beat The P1ss Outta Him lol. So I Can Believe That This Happens a lot more then we even know about, cause I dont think the fan even got on camera. WWE usually tries to keep that stuff off the screen I noticed. Like when the Fan went in the Ring at WM23 they tried to not get him in any of the shots I noticed.
Any known incidents of fans jumping into the ring to attack the Road Warriors? Yeah, didn't think so. If you get so drunk to think you could survive that, you probably won't survive the alcohol poisoning.
The image of Cornette punching some old guy and kicking him in the balls is hilarious to me.
I seen Jim beat a old man down at the Scope once.
Why . He s protecting himself . I m a pro musician . Many times in the south we played near pro wrestling events n met a few wrestlers @ clubs/ bars Pro musicians n Pro wrestlers face same dangers off stage / out -of -the ring .WE PROTECT OURSELVES > ANY MEANS NECESSARY > my intention s to come home to way I left . Good health & intact .
That image made me laugh so fucking hard🤣🤣🤣
"How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man"
@@davidspectra5591 what's some of your work
I can 100% confirm Jim's account of ring security. I worked security at the St Louis Arena, (Checkerdome), from 1985-1993. At every wrestling show we were stationed in the 4.corners by the ring and usually 6 of us doing ring escort to and from.
That's awesome. Any cool stories?
I’ll never forget that fan jumping in the ring during the ladder match between Eddie Guerrero and Rob Van Dam in 02’ where the fan knocked Eddie off the ladder.
I had to see for myself. I'm glad Eddie slugged the bastard and put the boots to him. Earl Hebner taking him down was dope too.
@@SamsarasArt I can't lie I marked out over Earl Hebner taking down that fool.. I was impressed over that..
"He's Canadian what do you expect JR?"
@@SamsarasArt shit, I wouldn't want to fuck with any of the refs, let alone wrestlers. No doubt they've probably learn a thing or two from the boys, and a bunch of other stuff making them tough bastards.
@@PYLrulz1984 some refs tried to work as a wrestler and it didn't work out, so they do know some things
The time the guy jumped in the ring with The Shield and just stood there behind Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose. The guy was in full Shield gear too like he was a member!
I'm supried he didnt stick his fist out.
WWF introduced Hillbilly Jim as a fan jumping into the ring.
@Steven Weathers Yes, it’s definitely been used a lot. Thanks for the other examples of this angle. The Hillbilly Jim one was most memorable to me because that’s around the time I started watching WWF.
And Chyna too...
Was Zach Gowen introduced as a fan in WWE
Kurt Angle too.
@@bradpaton3927 If I remember correctly, Santon got the call to the Big Leagues after an incident in OVW which saw Cornette back away from OVW after he slapped Santino
I remember that fan that attacked Raven in WCW while he was doing one of his corner promos. I love how after security subdued the guy, Raven just went back to his promo like nothing happened…
I know. These guys are pros and regardless of the things they can't control they will still get the job done.
Raven's a genius, that's why.
Professional yo
Ive seen raven get jumped more than Few times. That one episode one WCW someone just throws a entire drink in his face as he's walking down the isle. He took it well, wipes his face and kept walking.
I could listen to these stories forever.
I agree with you I would rather listen to wrestling stories than listen to my wife lol
I'd love to see someone try to track down some of those old ring jumpers and see if they regret what they did.
Would make a great documentary
Don't give them any publicity
Both of the replies above are correct.
Holy shit, Brian going off about Sid just made me bust a gut laughing. "Moron!" 😂😂
I wonder what Sid did to Brian. There's a story there. I bet he ran out on the bill at the french toast chateau
Brain is like Gorilla Monsoon on WWF Prime Wrestling. Keeping his cool 98% of the time. lol
@@ByrneMJames This must be from the same program that had a question about Sid not being recognized as an all-time great. Brian was being sarcastic here.
"Ox, the natives are gettin restless!"
"Just a little more heat, Ernie!" *pummels Ladd some more*
@@councilbaker7972 must have been a great time to be alive !
Referee in the ring: 1 HP
Referee against fans: +100 to all stats
Wouldn't it be great if the ref had to bump for the fans just to keep kayfabe?
"Oh he grazed me, better lay down for 3 minutes!"
I remember the Macho Man Vs Ted Dibiase match in a Steel Cage. A fan got _so mad_ about Dibiase and Virgil cheating in that match he jumped the rail and tried to stop Virgil interfering.
"They are not on social media because there wasn't any at the time...."
Reason #1 why the 90s were better than today.
Everything sucks in pro wrestling today
Really? There's not any small part you like?
@@tylerthepianoman4686 I only like how promotions are more aware of CTE injuries.
@@takerdust Yeah, that's a good one!
Pretty much
I saw a fan jump in the ring at a live event. I was front row. The guy started waving to people and Dean Malenko took his arm placed it behind his back and leaned on him faced first into the turn buckle until event staff got him.
The JCP shows at Charleston WV was the classic example of two corner entrances, but Beckley had one entrance.
I remember fans interrupted the main event of a PPV between Steve Austin and the Undertaker.
“Classy” Freddie Blassie had someone pull a gun on him during his feud with Bruno.
One of the stories was that Freddie was getting some serious heat, and somehow ended up in the wrong locker room, where Bruno was hanging out with some, shall we say, heavies. So one heavy pulls out a gun and asks Bruno if he can plug Freddie. Bruno says "Nah, I'll get him in the ring" and literally saved Freddie's life.
@@j.d.6915 I 100% believe that
Ya ✏-neck geek!
Now that’s some real heat, brother.
Not for nothing, but shouldn't it be Classie Freddie Blassie?
I think it's funny when the ref's take down the idiots that do this crap!!
At least in my experience: A lot of the refs that used to be on the indy shows could also wrestle.
@@p.d.l7023 Brian Hildebrand AKA Mark Curtis got the nickname 'Shooter' from taking down guys in WCW. He also wrestled a bit.
I remember when I was watching wrestling as a kid. It always seemed like the guys that would jump into the ring always got such a stiff attack from the wrestlers, and I was taken aback at how brutal it would get. Some wrestlers would just try to cover them up and protect the fan too, but I understand why for both.
When Ole got stabbed in Greenville. It Only added to his legend.
Facts
Really??when??
The Bret Hart attack Wrestlemania weekend was Wild
Yeah, that was stupid. Attack a legend surrounded by his peers?dude was lucky there were cameras around
@@marcomaliksi462 He still got his ass kicked on Camera..
@joseph smith Dash Wilder became a permanent babyface in my eyes that night.
He probably got f’d up off camera
I don't feel sorry for that idiot for getting his ass kicked I believe he is still in jail to this day.
Brian goin off about "Our Friend Sid" was too hilarious.
Which Sid are they mentioning?
@@luisjavier2784It could only be one Sid Eudy, formerly known as Sid Justice, Sid Vicious, and “Sycho” Sid.
If you watch some of the interviews back then concerning bounties that wrestlers put another wrestlers I'm always surprised that fans didn't attempt to cash in. Harley Race (bounty on Ric Flair) or Ric Flair (bounty on Jerry Lawler) had interviews were they begged anybody listening to "take out" the person in question for a huge cash prize. It's just surprising that no one attempted to cash in outside of the wrestling ring.
I'm sure people did try. There's so many instances of wrestlers being attacked in parking lots that at least a couple might have been people thinking they could collect a bounty.
Considering some of the stories about Harley Race, I'm surprised Harley didn't try to collect the bounty on Flair himself lol
The artwork makes this so much funnier. The old man especially lol.
For a minute, I thought the guy with the cigar was Freddy Kruger.
Why is AEW referee Rick Knox in the thumbnail?
The hell is Mel Brooks hot at Bobby Eaton for.....
At a house show in South Africa in 2013, an aspiring wrestler jumped in the ring, and did a low blow on Randy Orton.
I saw an event where Legacy (Orton, Cody, Ted Jr.) faced Kofi Kingston & Cryme Tyme. Two guys seated in the corner tried to jump Randy as he came out. Randy wailed on the two as Cody & Ted watched. The cops pulled the men away to save them from the wrath of Orton!! 🤣🤣
Can’t remember exactly when it happened Wwe security jumped on a guy going to the ring for the next segment, because they thought he was a fan
I believe you are talking about Rob Gronkowski.
Didn't the "History of Fans Jumping in the Ring" start when wrestlers, back in the Carnival days, would actually challenge fans to get in the ring and wrestle them?
The first few takers were Carnival employees who would make the wrestler seem beatable. So when the, typically big and dumb, "Hometown Hero" would step into the ring, all his friends _knew_ he could beat the wrestler. Until the wrestler actually used legit submissions to make the local boy tap out and/or pass out.
And if the wrestler couldn't take him for whatever reason, brawl the rube outside so another carny could give him a whack with a board across the back of the head. That's less what they're talking about here though and led to the "fan challenges" heels used to do up until the 80's. I seem to recall a clip of Corny talking about King Kong Bundy doing a "Body Slam Challenge" where fans would try to body slam Bundy for a cash prize. Of course those were usually angles to get a heel over or build up a potential match (in the style of Iron Shek's Persian Clubs or Lex bodyslamming Yokozuna on the aircraft carrier).
Didn't "Little House On The Prairie" do an episode on this carny wrestling bit? With the late Merlin Olsen being tossed around by the shoot wrestler when the circus came to Engels' Town
Jim's talked about fan challenges/wrestler challenges. He doesn't like them, most of the time, for liability reasons, once citing a soldier who was getting stretched out and decided to cheat and bite the wrestler's finger off. The wrestler, naturally, got angry and started beating the soldier even worse, which lead to a riot.
That’s a different type of fan-in-the-ring situation. The carnival situation, the fan was practically invited in.
I remember Corny talking about this back in Midsouth where there was a standing challenge: any fan could go backstage and sign a release and get in the ring. The only problem was Watts would always put Dr. Death in the other corner. Good luck, buddy.
But that’s a totally different situation than a fan trying to storm the ring because of some heat that heels got.
I’m in the process of reading Bret Hart’s book and he mentions one particular time during his days in Stampede when he and brother Keith I think it was wrestled a tag match against Dr. D Dave Schultz and Dynamite Kid. The Hart brothers were red hot and had the crowd eating up every second of the match until the finish where the crooked ref missed a cane shot from Dr D and the Harts took the fall. Whole place came unglued as angry Calgary fans and cowboys began to storm the ring. Dr D wound up breaking his cane in two he was swinging so hard and Kid just started punching the shit out of anyone who got close enough like the pit Bull he was. By the end the two heels were back to back holding off the mob until Stu and security could come down to calm things. Great stuff man.
His book is the best wrestling memoir I'll ever read.
I keep thinking of Harley Race vs. Andre the Giant, there's a guy 8n the crowd screaming "FIGHT ME HARLEY RACE! FIGHT ME!!!"
That guy was into it.
I wouldn't challenge Harley Race to a fight in 2021. Jesus.
@@Godzilla1982 a zombie Harley Race. That's just what the world needs.
I read something somewhere that Harley Race was one of only two people Andre was afraid of. The other was Haku. If Andre wouldn't mess with them then nobody in their right mind should either.
BNB told Andre hed kick his ass if he heard the n word again from Andre
@@postersandstuff True but Andre wasn't afraid of BNB. He wouldn't have been saying the N word if he was afraid of him. Andre, from what I understand, said and did things because he could and if you stood up to him he respected that.
Kamala told a similar story. Andre was being an asshole and unnecessarily stiff with Kamala and Kamala had enough of it and threatened to shoot Andre. After that had no problems with each other though Kamala never fully trusted Andre wouldn't try something with him. Andre let Kamala bodyslam him which is something that he only let people he liked do to him.
My brother and I recently watched Starrcade 96 and a fan hits the ring during the main event to get at Hogan. Hogan gets a few kicks in on him but it's mostly the referee grabbing him, getting in a few shots and then shoving him out of the ring to the security staff. What's interesting is that earlier in the show Sting is walking through the audience and he kind of bumps into a guy fairly hard and the guy is on camera for a few seconds and looks really pissed off about it. At the time we thought it was odd that Sting would bump a fan like that but later when the fan hits the ring I'm 99% sure it's the same guy! So maybe he was trying to start something with Sting or he's just a jerk and wouldn't move aside so Sting body checked him. Or the bumping was accidental but the guy got all worked up about it and eventually hit the ring later in the show.
Corny wasn't afraid to smash the tennis racket over a jumpy fan 🤣
I saw Jim once take someone’s own unbrella and beat them down with it.
@@themeanhornet1070 🤣🤣🤣🤣. That would've been something to see
Larry Z. talks in a shoot about getting stabbed by a fan in Albany, NY in 1980.
Does Bam Bam going into the stands to push that guy count? That was so awesome!
Fun story my father told me, sometime in the 70s or maybe 80s jimmy hart was at memorial gym hazard Kentucky and my father was a police officer on duty for the show. No one informed him hart was going to interfere from the crowd with a ball cap on and he hit hart with a slap jack lol
I as at the Norfolk Scope and seen many people jump in the ring, especially the Russians in a military town like Norfolk, VA.
"I can get some attention and my friends will remember it"
...then go to jail end up with a criminal record and look back on it in 20 years when you're still working the register at McDonald's and wonder why your life went down the tubes after that happened.
This is what nerds say
Being from Lake Charles, my dad could comfirm that the crowds here back in the say were insane
"The Marks. I forgot. Are already in the ring" - Jim Cornette
It should be a funny joke. Too bad Jim ruined it by making it multiple times every single podcast. Now it's just tiresome.
To tell you the truth wrestlers been Marking Out over themselves since the late 1970s.. Got even worst in the late 1980s.. Marking Out over self didn't start yesterday..
I think about 1997 King of the Ring match between Steve Austin and Shawn Michaels when a special olympican kid got in a ring during the match.
This is like when people get on stage at music shows to stage dive or whatever, it was tolerated and sometimes encouraged in the '80s and '90s then the guitar player from Pantera/Damage Plan got shot by some nutcase on stage and the whole thing started to look like a bad idea. Not to mention when a spectator gets injured or killed, then someone wants to sue or put somebody in jail.
Pantera was already disbanded. RIP Dimebag Darrell.
@@bradpaton3927 but dimebag was the guitarist for pantera. the poster is trying to provide context.
What happened to him and The Midnight Express with a overly drunk fan at Clash of the Champions was memorable when Jim said he, Bobby (RIP), and Stan are gonna save his life by letting him go home, and sleep it off.
I was at a Nitro in 98' and announcer told audience that throwing anything in the ring would not be tolerated. They really did not emphasize it much after that.
I went to 2 WCW Monday Nitros were the last match had NWO beating the hell out of Luger, or whoever after the bell.
And people were straight launching full and half bottles of water and soda!
People on the front row were getting bombarded! Dangerous times
Mr. Tough guy is going to the sneeze box!!!!!- Bobby Heenan on commentary after Mark Curtis takes the guy down who jumped in the ring.
I saw a man hit Roddy Piper with a chair during a street fight with Ric Flair in Charlotte when I was a child
Cool to know that Beautiful Bobby Eaton front face locked a 300lb fat boy in Biloxi, MS. My hometown area. I've heard several stories about how bad Biloxi was/is as a wrestling town.
Poor old man getting kicked in the balls for just having his hands in his pockets. He likely didn’t even know there was an unwritten rule
I Love to See ‘ Mr. Cornette swing that Tennis🏸 Racket 😂🤣😂😂🤣😂😂 Sheik an Funk kept Heat an Pipper ‘ Wait Wait He Knocked-out An Kick A Ole Man In The Nabbs😂🤣😂😂😂
I grew up in Lake Charles. The Mid South shows were rowdy for sure and a blast. And if the rock n roll Express was wrestling you knew it was gonna get crazy
My dad always loves to tell me about the time Mr. Fuji kicked a drunk guy off the ropes at a wrestling show he was at and sent him flying to the ground
FUJ THE STOOGE!!!!!!!!!
I love the clip of Terry Gordy knocking the guy from the crowd on his ass.
One of my personal favorite fan jumping in the ring moments when some jackoff tried to push Eddie Guerrero off a ladder during a match with RVD and Eddie even got a punch in while Earl Hebner and the rest were dragging him off and of course King with the classic "He's Canadian what do you expect JR?"
Dingleberry hanging out 🤣🤣🤣
"Atlas Security". Tony Atlas?
I remember Bruiser Brody beat the brakes off some drunk twins jumping in the ring when I was a kid
Bruiser Brody would have been a scary guy to jump in the ring to...
In WCCW I watched Terry Gordy floor a Fan with out ever breaking stride. Brody was a part time face and big as hell no one would do more then yell at him (depending on who he was in the ring with)
I often wonder what the thought process of a wrestling fan is who tried to go after guys like Bruiser Brody, Harley Race or Haku. I mean where in the thought process does does it seem like what they're about to do is a good idea?
@@AWX_Wrestling I'd say they are suicidal.
@@AWX_Wrestling As a 7 yo I stood next to both Terry Gordy and Brody They were huge ( I know I was smaller back then) at 6'5 now They are still huge. Beer goggles and its hard to believe that someone thought about it at all before doing it and still did it.
When I went to ECW shows Atlas Security always looked like some bad ass dudes that you didn't want to mess with. Saw them drag a guy out when he took a swing at Bubba Ray Dudley. Watched a guy during a WCW show hopped the barricade and climb the cage during a Sting vs Hogan match at the Palace of Auburn Hills.
Some of those same guys work Security for all The Wrestling Shows at the same building in Philadelphia. I've seen Ring of Honor Shows, House of Hardcore Shows, Impact Wrestling Shows, New Japan Pro Wrestling Shows, Combat Zone Wrestling Shows and other Wrestling Shows in that building now named 2300 Arena and you see the same Security Personnel for each show.
@@JuliusC1973 OH yeah I remember they were all dressed in black including work/combat boots. Also had to go through a pat down when you went through the door. Actually I watched Sandman handle a guy who was getting to pushy for autographs after the show in the alley behind the Seagate Center in Toldeo
I'll never forget that idiot that tried tackling Bret at the HoF. Best part of that though was Cash/Dash punching him in the face as he was getting carried out.
I always found it funny that WWE cuts the fan run-in during the Bash at the Beach 96. Dude was pissed with the Hogan heel turn and found out the hard way.
i just renember seein cops accompany wrestlers to the ring in ecw. but those fans were truly nuts.
Hmm hands on two back pockets and pull…. Thanks Jim that’s great advice for some future ribbing to do lol.
All serious though, this is a real education, and this is something I feel all wrestling fans should hear before even attending a wrestling event.
7:20...
Cause *EVERYONE* Knew TerryFunk was a MadMan!
I saw on one of my wrestling dvds where Randy Savage and Ted Dibiase had cage match and Vigil would climb the cage every time Savage tried to escape. One of the times he was on the side of the cage some kid climbed up behind Virgil and started hitting Virgil in the back and the cops grab the kid. I think it was at MSG.
I remember when in WCW when Hulk Hogan turned Heel a Fan tried to jump in the ring and Scott Hall legit stomp the shit out of him.. 😂😂
@@kenrickkahn Nash demolished that fan.
Kid should have avoided MSGs. Not healthy.
@@maxxdahl6062 hall threw worked kicks nash on the other hand threw shoot kicks hahahahshah
@@blockhead8134 They tried to shoot away from it but still caught nash throwing bombs in on that fan. lol
There's one on UA-cam where Giant and Hogan were beating on Piper during a match and a dude jumped the barricade and nearly took out DiBiase. Hogan saw it and ran to the ropes and he and the ref took out the fan.
I beg your pardon, but what is EXACTLY wrong with Boston?!
What ref in WCW was the one who took all the fans running into the ring down? Randy Anderson?Mark Curtis?
Hearing about Jim beat up the old man 👴 made me laugh out loud!
My first time going to the matches we were a couple rows back from ringside and I look over and a little old lady jumped up and hit George The Animal Steele with her purse as he was walking to the ring 😂😂😂
One time we were at this building where the entryways for the faces and the heels led off of this weirdly constructed, kind of confusing short hallway which led to the single dressing room. One night there was a tag match going on with Larry Santo and David Baker heeling on somebody, I forget who, and this little girl of about 6, who was morally certain she had just entered the babyface door, burst breathlessly into the dressing room and hollered "THEY NEED HELP OUT HERE!!" and then she realized she was looking at me, Hot Property Mike Mitchell, Gene Spurlock and Memphis Mafia Danny Marlo. Thank God we were all heels. She went "EEEEK" and fled.
I remember going to cwa show in Memphis and fan jump in the ring to help Jerry Lawler and moondog cujo hit that guy with a trashcan lid I was laughing the whole time
I wonder if that's on UA-cam. I would love to see it.
@@kevinpayton2664 I don't know if it is or not
That old man with the cigar never saw Corny coming with the shot to the balls. Such a great story teller!
I always think about the night Ole turned on Dusty or the night the Ole, Arn and Flair broke Dusty's ankle.
anybody as old as me remember when a fan not only jumped the rail but got to the top of the cage - Flair vs Jimmy Garvin when Precious was the stip. Doug Dillinger let his guard down
I will probably never ever complain about a girl flashing her boobs. I even got fired from a job because of that once.
My classmate mugged like crazy on a 98 or 99 nitro in vegas. He was on tv all night without jumping in the ring.
someone please submit a questing asking if MJF went back to the 80s how would the lockerroom handle him?
I remember so many fan run ins. The fan who tried to storm the ring at Bash at the Beach 1996 when Hogan went to the dark side and formed the NWO, the fan who somehow got backstage and stopped in front Batista and did his machine gun thing then high tailed with security after him. Bret got attacked at the Hall of Fame by a fan. I remember on an episode of Raw a fan got in the ring and Triple H beat the crap out of him before security got in the Ring. During a Match with Undertaker I think, he knocked out a fan who jumped the rail
13:46 - 13:48 I can imagine it after the 2019 Hall of Fame.
Jim Cornette's interviews with Ron Fuller are freaking priceless. EXTREMELY ENTERTAINING!!! HIGHLY RECOMENDED!!! Plenty of stories about fans jumping into the ring. One of the funniest was when a riot started, and the police officer jumps in the ring and points his gun at one of the wrestlers, and that's just before the gun gets knocked out of the cops hands and lands in the rioting crowd. Thank you Mr. Cornette for those great interviews.
Wish that Jim had told the story again about his encounter with the old lady that came after him with the plastic chair. 😂😂 if you don’t know what I’m talking about look at the older Jim episodes and see if you can find it. It also reminds me of the “Story Time With The Tennessee Stud” little mini series thing they did where Ron Fuller told the story of when he was working and a guy stood up and pulled out a gun and shot at the ring twice and the cop present didn’t do anything about it and when they asked the cop why he didn’t go get the guy. The cop replied that it was some old timer that everyone knew in that town and he was on heck of a good shot. The cop just said “ He’s such a good shot that if he had wanted to hit them, he would have.” 😂
A paraphrased quote from colin quinn seems fitting here "human intelligence has progressed exponentially, human nature has not progressed one iota thats why we can build the hubble telescope and see pictures of distant galaxies but we still need armed guards at the zoo so no one jumps a fence and kicks a polar bear in the balls so they can be a youtube sensation"
So this is why Jim doesn't like Orange Cassidy! Bad vibes from people with their hands in their pockets.
some old shool matches you can actually see how heels got to fight their way back...legion of doom for example
Anyone remember when Roddy had someone jump in the ring at the end of his WM3 match.
I remember one time, I went to a spot show in Aibonito, Puerto Rico. king Kong Mosca was wrestling a masked guy named the "Super Gladiador(Omar Atlas)"". I saw this drunk guy going to the ring area and sat down at the time keeper's table . Immediately after the match, he went directly to King Kong Mosca & pushed him. Mosca began to flail & punch him until he was dragging himself to the seats. It was hilarious!
The fight only lasts as long as nuts and eyes
No body wants their dingle berry hanging out in front of 5000 people unless someone is paying the bigger dollars
Corny has Vince “Sh*t Stain” Russo.
Brian Last has Sid from ROH.
Brian Last just went off when that guy got mentioned he usually the calmer of the two here but Last has his epic moments and this was one of them
At a Georgia Championship Wrestling house show in Saginaw, MI. back in the early 80s, I seen an old man rush up and punch Paul Ellering in the back, while he was on his way to the ring (Ellering just looked at the old man like he was a dumbass). The police jumped right on the guy, and Nick Patrick (who was that match's referee) instantly started hollering to the police officers, "We want him arrested, and yes, we are pressing charges!"
It blew my mind how fast it all happened!
I think this was December of 01'.
Baby Face Rock/Stone Cold are on a tag team against Heel Jericho/Angle. Jericho is at the edge of the ring before Angle's entrance music starts and a fan jumps and hits Jericho before being tackled by security and Jericho starts winding up to slug the guy.
The camera quickly cuts to Rock/Austin, who were waiting in the ring, and they are both covering their faces because they're laughing so hard.
My grandpa’s friend would always brag that he almost reached out and grabbed one of the Malenkos 🤣 he really thought he could take him! Poor guy would’ve probably got tied in a knot!
the title alone got a genuine laugh from me
SWCW in the 80s..
We had a old woman that would sit right on the front row with a damn umbrella and smack every heel she could. I think it was Erick Embry when he was with rhe Fabulous Blonds who yanked that shit from here and threw it 20 rows back.
I wonder if they regret introducing guys like hillbilly Jim, earthquake, Steve Blackmon, and so on. I would think that would promote the idea of being able to jump in.
Sure the challenge the fans matches didn't play into it?
I Only Went to 4 Wrestling Shows in My Life & At the 3rd One, which was a Taping of RAW in October 2012 a Fan Tried to Get in the Ring and The Security Beat The P1ss Outta Him lol. So I Can Believe That This Happens a lot more then we even know about, cause I dont think the fan even got on camera. WWE usually tries to keep that stuff off the screen I noticed. Like when the Fan went in the Ring at WM23 they tried to not get him in any of the shots I noticed.
Any known incidents of fans jumping into the ring to attack the Road Warriors? Yeah, didn't think so. If you get so drunk to think you could survive that, you probably won't survive the alcohol poisoning.
haha true or andre
I saw a fan jump on the back of one of the Road Warriors..the other Road Warriors clotheslined him
WWE doesn't actually use actual law enforcement as security these days either, do they?
Up til the pandemic they had private security and few off duty cops spread around the crowd
Actually actual cops are active on active duty, but security is secure with that on a secular level.
14:56 lol he has sympathy for them , you can hear it in his voice.