I CONFRONT Cenk Uygur: What on earth are you doing?
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- -- Cenk Uygur, Host of The Young Turks, joins David to discuss the controversy over his recent appearance with Charlie Kirk at Turning Point USA's America Fest, and his broader approaches to MAGA ahead of Donald Trump's second term
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Cenks problem is he is as big of a narcissist as trump....dude thinks he's never wrong after I watched him being one of the lead pundits trying to force biden out for kamala...now he takes 0 responsibility
@10:00. David says that the right is welcoming and doesn’t purity test, as if they aren’t calling anyone on the right who disagrees with a RINO
I also noticed that When Cenk did a false equivalence about corrupt politicians and he put Trump in the same echelon of corruption as Kamala, and David didn’t push back on that. I know he’s your friend, but come on hahah
@@Tortilla.ReformYep. Just outright denying reality for the sake of pretending to be the most reasonable liberal in the room. Humanity is so cooked.
@20:00. Even if trump loses the support of his base, what does that matter? He’s still the president, he’s already been given power. The scammer already emptied their bank account, who cares how they feel about it
No one is criticizing him for going on right wing shows. They are criticizing him for going on and hugging MAGA while bashing the left
Democrats aren't the left. They are significantly further right than most "right wing" populists.
Well said! 100!
"Hugging" while on his knees.
Oh 😳 there's so much to be said.
I mean some self reflection on the left is needed. Trump is a horrible person and horrible candidate and he won the popular vote along with gaining ground among blacks and Latinos. It's pretty narcissistic to just say everyone who voted for trump is racist and dumber than me.
What is it about progressives that turns people off? Crusading for trans women in womens sports? Going to racism, sexism etc as the main talking point in arguments? The embrace of an assassin because he killed a rich guy?
Booing McConnell doesn't mean shit if they still support Trump. It means nothing.
💯
It means absolutely nothing. Trumps power is a direct result of the actions Mitch McConnell took.
Imagine not realizing(or worse actively ignoring ) the fact that they are booing McConnell because he isn't far right and fascist enough
Yes it does. It means we can fight corruption in the goverment. How cant you understand that? Then you are maga to, just for the far left. Wanting to devide and hate
Thank you! What has the general dissatisfaction with Congress ever meant substantively? Has it stopped McConnell from being the most powerful guy in Washington for a generation? God the ideological left is dumb sometimes.
Cenk hasn’t been criticized for just ‘appearing’ with people like Kirk, but for being willing to “have a beer” with them (and not challenging them, not taking them to task) while going scorched earth on his critics on the Left (and totally straw manning their positions).
The "critics" went scorched earth and machinated boycot discourse.
Cenk responded to that and defended his position and talked against the endless litmus testing.
David just doesn’t get it and is completely out of touch. He doesn’t do the proper self reflection to understand WHY we lost so badly on Nov 5th. We have to support MAGA causes if we want to win elections again. We have to support Trump and all of his policies if we want to actually retake the White House.
@@costco_pizzaall due respect, but you are out of touch. High prices and Gaza are the reasons we lost by a thin margin. When DJT and Republicans fail to bring those prices down, and start invading ally countries, everything is going to swing back to the left.
@@Arguments_only it’s EVERYONE on the left, including people like Francesca Fiorentini and Jordan and John Iadarola, and they are good faith (and accurate) criticism.
@@costco_pizza lmao
19:52 MAGA is anti-war? Yes, that is what they told us in the past, but now i already see them making jokes about turning Denmark into a warzone, etc.
This show show he can't take them at face value (which he is). ACTIONS matter.
JOKES????!!!?? Oh no, God forbid....
Trump tried to overthrow Maduro. He took all their Citgo gas stations. He nombed the shit out of Syria and left a base there to “take their oil”. He killed a bunch of SEALs a week into his presidency in Yemen by okaying a mission they were warning was too dangerous. He killed Solemini. Etc. MAGA is not anti-war.
Denmark is already allowing the USA military installation there!
Trump was so anti-war that he did not withdraw from Afghanistan.
David, I'm really disappointed with the way you let Cank off the hook. People are not upset that he went on a right-wing tour. They are upset that he went on a right-wing tour and sucked the hosts balls while also denigrating his own party
Deranged people are upset. Normal people are not bothered by the way Cenk speaks at a political convention
well put
Hence his dsl's
cenk has never been a dem
cenk has never been a leftist
cenk is a gop trojan horse
I'd be denigrating my own party too if I saw that it was so hopelessly out of touch with reality that it got curbstomped in an election by an actual clown.
This interview has convinced me dropping tyt was the right choice.
Ditto.
Why?
@@KeefWardbecause he lost his way
Nah people are just really sensitive about their team losing. It’s why we have this dumb 2 party system. No one voted anyone in with a back bone. In fact voter turnout is embarasingly low, including our presidential elections. People win uncontested seats with $10 in lawn signs and having either D or R in their name. No one does research, and mostly boomers go in and vote all Red or Blue downballot. It is extreme.
And instead you went to Pakman, hahaa? Have fun in the new echo chamber I guess!
Cenk needs to watch Luke Beasley to learn how to engage with the right without being a traitor.
Exactly
Careful taking that stance. Traitor depicts sides. Progressivism is about ideas/positions. This isn't a tribe and there are no sides. I've voted Democrat every election but will gladly vote republican if they had a complete switch (won't ever happen) towards our policies. Totally get your passion though.
Exactly
Luke made Tim Pool look like the idiot he is, Luke is a master class!
@@melocreme69 It's not that hard to outwit Tim Pool
Cenk just keeps on making it clear how flawed his worldview is
Flawed based on your opinion
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No. Flawed based on basic logic. Or in other words since this clearly went over your head, Cenk’s worldview is flawed based on Cenk’s own worldview. It is internally inconsistent with itself. Another word for this is that it is definitionally incorrect
@@jloiben12 he is being castrated for doing exactly what the dem establishment fails to do which is change their POV and messaging . This groupthink brain rot is why the party has cut its tent size in half and losing more voters every year.
@@jloiben12 he actually explained why you lost, sorry little girl.
honestly he is part of the reason that many young men fell into the alt-right pipeline ten years ago
he does NOT win hearts or minds
Cenk is naive to believe that Trump and a MAGA Congress will allow good policies to pass.
California is a wreck now. Wildfires are breaking out because of the extreme policies of water usage and not clearing out forests. Trump is trying to fix this. How could anyone disagree with Trump’s ideas about this, let alone others?
Exactly. No amount of sucking up or single-issue pressure campaigns will ever create lasting policies for We The People because they would be easily unraveled by a corrupt political operating system set up to maintain the status quo disproportionately benefiting the business jet owner class with crumbs for us. It's so far gone that it needs reforms that cannot be undertaken from within, but this has already been tried and rejected as the late John McCain discovered.
The one good thing they might do is get rid of DST. That's literally the only good policy idea I've seen at all connected to them.
For sure
Tyt- I have talked to thousands of maga morons.-right- what a idiot.
The Trump party has open minds? Are you serious Cenk? You’ve lost it.
The left is like a cult if you step out of line, they will try to end you.
Well yeah because it’s so ridiculous that a normal person would quickly dismiss it through common sense.
Every Republican President has a recession. Trump's tariffs are going to cause inflation. He isn't going to do anything to reduce property prices. The more open minded of his voters will stop supporting him.
Wild isn’t it? He lost all credibility. So glad I cancelled my TYT subscription.
Explain how the Left has minds any more open than the Right
8:20 is a perfect example of my problem with Cenk. He is talking about corruption like Biden Harris are just as corrupt as Trump or at least presenting his argument like it does not matter that one side of the discussion is significantly more corrupt because they both "engage" in corrupt practices. GTFOH
It is a classic False Equivalence Fallacy. Yes, all politicians are corrupt and getting rich off of their power - but the rest of us understand that just because they all share that one trait, it doesn't mean they will make the same policy decisions when it comes to the greater good.
And he’s talking out of both sides of his mouth too !!! Sick of this guy too go be maga with them
Like Biden's DOJ did a good job going full monopoly busting and stuff for 4 years
THEN around @8:32 he starts referencing what many Maga's have said TO HIM about the corruption AND it sounds like he is 100% making up these conversations he supposedly had.
You support Biden and he is also corrupt
Some people are more conservative in social issues so they vote republican some people the opposite so they vote democrat
Either way leaders are all corrupt and it's about spreading populism mindset and advancing populist which needs bipartisan support among populists on both sides to succeed
You cannot criticise one person for voting Trump cause he's corrupt if your voting for someone who's also corrupt You support Biden and he is also corrupt
Some people are more conservative in social issues so they vote republican some people the opposite so they vote democrat
Either way leaders are all corrupt and it's about spreading populism mindset and advancing populist which needs bipartisan support among populists on both sides to succeed
You cannot criticise one person for voting Trump cause he's corrupt if your voting for someone who's also corrupt if he wasn't then why has he let the genocide happen in gaza or why hasn't he raised minimum wage a core democratic policy
Very disappointed David. I know you're not an adversarial interviewer, but you left a ton of meat on the bone here. I wish Cenk would stop with the Dems don't care about crime and want to let everyone out of jail nonsense. I live in woke/liberal central and I've never heard anyone, not single person say anything remotely like that. It's the same with the "if you disagree only 5% they'll kick you out" garbage. The dig on the Dems has always been getting them to agree collectively on anything is like herding cats. Which one is it?
Yuuup. It's crypto framing "will call racists out on their racism" as a bad thing. Meanwhile, last I checked the right is currently fighting president elect Musk over whether it's better to exploit h-1b migrant workers or kick them out for the glorious ethno state. Dumbest timeline.
You just might be in a bubble. Crime is definitely a big issue and both California and New York are obvious examples of that. Also, I live in California and I am to the left of a social democrat so I'm not picking on "liberal" states.
@@issaciams Your response doesn't jibe with Tom's comment. Tom is saying THAT CENK IS SAYING Dem's don't care about crime. It's Cenk in the bubble, not Tom.
Is it my imagination that, for example, California has decriminalized theft
@@issaciamsI'm far right, and I'm glad to read common sense! I'm glad we can be from 2 different sides and still have common ground. God bless u. Hope you and your family are safe in cali
Cenk’s evidence the MAGA is anti corruption is just welp, they told me so, so it must be true 😂
Don’t believe the reaction you’re seeing, believe the stuff I’m telling you I’m seeing on the ground that I haven’t shown you.
Exactly. And Ben Shapiro just said that he supports Trump’s invasion plans. Good luck on MAGA turning on Trump🙄
YOU GUYS HAVE NO SENSE OF HUMOR. To your detriment. You’re missing out on joy.
Dave will eventually get tired of pandering to a bunch of lost in life human body occupiers.
“Hundreds, even thousands!” Even better was: “you don’t have the secret info only I have..when I read it on twitter” 😂
Cenk Uygur thinks way too highly of himself and his opinion.
He just wants to be the smartest guy in the room, the guy who has the winning strategy...and he doesn't seem to care which side of the fence he needs to be on for that to happen. It's an ego and $ thing, he's completely hollow. Problem is TYT is losing a lot of its main audience and there won't be enough centrists or right-wingers interested in a left-wing show that isn't terribly left-wing anymore. So it's a fool's errand.
He's walking in trumps footprints in a few ways: tissue paper thin skin, hyperbolic, doesn't actually listen to criticism and frames it all to fit the defense he's already decided to use, ego-maniac narcissist that thinks his way is the only way, ran a destined-to-fail presidential run seemingly to sell his book. Oh, he's also objectively WAY more condescending to women - him talking to Francesca was like a narcissistic parent talking down to their kid when they have a thought that wasn't planted their by him.
His ego is massive
Cenk”Hamas” Uygur never seems to talk about the hostages still being held by his brothers
I am the Left!!
Not enough pushback from David, disappointing. And this made me SO GLAD that I unsubbed from TYT. Disgusted with Cenk, and ESPECIALLY Ana.
Right thanks for saying that I'm not the only one stop giving fat cenk any respect he's evil to me anyways
Unfortunately Cenk likely won't go on anyone's show who he feels would actually go hard and do it well. Destiny would but he almost certainly won't go on for awhile.
Not enough pushback from David also makes me reconsider my subscription to DAVID. Unsubbed from Cenk weeks ago.
True, now I’m also glad I don’t subscribe to Pakman any longer. Spineless aww shucks behavior
@tetros5265 why are you making excuses? He literally went on Francesca Fiorentini and Marc Lamont Hill's shows - two people who go beyond mere "pushing back."
I can't stand to listen to cenk speak anymore. He was already rubbing me the wrong way. I won't be watching him or Anna anymore.
it makes me feel stupid. its like hes trying to convince me that santa is still real
Agree! I’m already exhausted.
Anna is even worse
@@ssiipp7848 She didn't just let her mask slip, she tore it off in front of us and then lit it on fire. Ana is a mean girl who looks down on others.
I unsubscribed to TYT when they said that racism had nothing to do with the election because we voted for Obama twice. McConnell literally said that in 2015/2016.
Nobody thinks Cenk is as brilliant as Cenk does, and he's not.
I like how his whole shtick was basically "Trust me, bro"
@@dylansparrow6169 which is the exactly same as "internet lefties"
There is no objective repeatable science that measures physical properties when it comes to politics and hypothetical future scenarios.
Just educated guesses.
Yes, but you gotta stick to the landing on the educated part.@@Arguments_only
@@dylansparrow6169 and cenks thesis about spreading progressive ideas to right wing base is tenable.
There is no apparent downside only upside.
ERGO trying to ostracize Cenk/TyT feigning as if this is the reasons and not also to a ginificant degree some minor tertiary disagreements on trans stuff, is not a good strategy.
It only serves the egoes, narcism of the "internet lefties".
And it also is done by Leftie channels in a machiavellian attempt to snatch viewers from TyT viewer Pie. (most important motivation)
@@Arguments_only or uneducated guesses or wishcasting.
Cenk is so obnoxious. He always has been. His first answer in this was a 6 min rant/word salad. He just wants money and attention. Stop giving it to him.
David as well allowed CENK to attack Democrats while praising POS Trump
Dude, he left MSNBC and millions of dollars when his ratings were some of the best the network has ever had. He gave up "fame and fortune" to have a online news channel that told the truth, way before there was any money in online media. Maybe, you should look deeper into the people that are talking trash about TYT. Most of them are butthurt because TYT is their competition, they are using TYT to get clicks to their relatively unknown show, or they were turned down in favor of somebody else to have a show on TYT (Ema Vigeland, Ben DIxon, etc).
So ridiculous. Are you a democrat or a troll? Obviously dont know Cenk at all
yes! Yes!! YES!!!
He declared he was right about Biden too haha when he his idea didn't work either
Cenk is a total tool. Playing the script. Can't believe this man thinks he's fooling the audience with his perspective. It's clear as day.
He is fooling David 3:10
Dems are so delusional. Cenk is the most decent one.
c.u. is both sides-ing like mad
Someone please explain... How Cenk argument makes any sense when you have BIG MONEY giving money to Trump, but yet the MAGA voters are against big money in government? Does this not lead to corruption?
Who said MAGA made sense? Most Democrat voters hate corruption as well yet most of them voted for Kamala who's also corrupt. The problem is people are being misinformed.
In a 2 party system where you need to raise money to be competitive, what are they supposed to do? Vote for Kamala (who got even bigger checks)?
What you're supposed to do is change the system
@@AogzoBernie tried but the corrupt
Dems didn’t let him change the system
You’re asking why the dumbest people on the planet are hypocritical and can’t put 2 and 2 together?
Cenk, don't even compare Biden/Harris to Trump. I left TYT a long time ago. I'm so glad I did.
He only brought up how they ALL took big money money from centibillionaires. And he's correct. I don't know about Joe, but Kam took more from centibillionaires than DonaldMcCheese did. Go check for yourself. I couldn't believe it. But it's true. That's the "corruption" he was talking about.
Same!
*And you went 10 steps downwards... and I don't like TYT but Pakman???*
We all know there is corruption and should demand better however trumps actions are totally unprecedented and has tested the strength of our guardrails to keep power in check! I have been raised (apparently brainwashed) that this is about democracy and the rule of law being broke but guess not….insider trading is the same as insurrection and dismantling the country I used to love.
@VeronicaMoreno-qd8yh Cenk keeps trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth... like him saying he supports the constitution and trying to run for president even though he was foreign born...
He has completely lost it by thinking the republican base will turn on Israel. He has obviously never been to the Bible Belt and dealt with apocalyptic Christian Republicans.
I don't think we will turn on Israel, but we expect Trump to end the war in Gaza like he said he would.
Also, as if MAGA care about brown people and Cenk thinks they care so much that they will turn on Trump?
Trump will end the war using biblical proportions of hellfire similar to Hiroshima. That is the guy people trusted for peace, one side killed and the ally( Israel) left standing. That is his solution. He doesn’t see the Palestinians he sees Hamas in Gaza . I wish we had a president like jimmy carter that knew how to get people to come together for peace. That actually worked for the good of humanity instead of bullying as a way to prove he is strong . Strength through peace not war or conflict. Oh well now we just have to hope and pray people will be alive after Trump performs his “ peace” solutions .
Yes, they support Israel but not for the same reasons.
They MAY turn on Israel, but because "Jews".
I quit tyt because of what I saw on tyt, not because of what others were saying. We all saw Ana going right-wing a while back and now Cenk.
👏👏👏👏
When I see that, it tells me they were huxters on the left because they thought it would make them money. Now that every spineless Joe on the right is folding to the Donald, they are saving their skins by "reaching out" to the new king. I've been conservative all my life and voted that way. I listened to tyt in recent years because they correctly nailed the right wing lies not because I'm a progressive. I had conservative values I wouldn't compromise. Now I wonder how they compromise their values to lean into Trumpism.
I love that you made that decision. Ana and Janky Cenk are bought by the Right now. So of course they MAGA applogist
They were always both-sidesers. Which means they think fascists have anything constructive to offer anyone. Fascists only respect cruelty to others. They see the most cruel as their leaders. Ana & little Cenky took off their sheep's clothes to try to leverage the power dynamic of fascism.
FACTS
Cenk. You're naive. It's obvious you don't know the first rule of a cult. The leader is always right and must be obeyed without question.
He's not naive, but he is a sellout. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's trying to survive 🤔🤨😐
There is a blurry line in the social contract whereby engagement with people who cling to a wildly-inappropriate/malevolent ideology leads to the legitimization and normalization of their deviancy. Cenk has stepped way over that line without calling it out as indecent incivility.
@@marymccutchen2248Did he and TYT make some bad financial moves a few years ago or something? 😂
The fallacy here is believing right wing populism and left wing populism are the same thing. It idiocy.
I wonder if he really believes that. Its so strange... and yes idiotic
the fallacy is believing that populists are good leaders
He knows that.
Hey SERIOUSLY
GOP attack KAMALA as communist and Dems as socialist
YOU TWO SHOULD TAKE 10 TRAVEL DAYS TRIP TO CHINA AND WITNESS WHAT Communist Socialist is really like 😊
Precisely! Populism is just a retheric, not policy
Thank you David. Deep respect to you for Your approach. You are listening and thinking compare to most who comment on Cenk. ❤👏👏👏
Cenk is so out of touch. This is why TYT is on the downhill.
They been on the downhill for almost a decade.
It's like you didn't even listen to the interview 😆
Cenk forgets that he's talking about these people who support a guy who would rather scream about annexing their closest allies instead of talking about realistic policies to help every day people. He's a clear psychopath and they eat out of his hand. This isn't about policy difference. It's about tyranny vs democracy. Cenk is so out of it.
This coming from people that thought kamala would win is literally pot kettle black
Nah, he’s a grifter. Honestly, hes been a POS forever, it was other ppl who really made TYT tolerable
I'm sorry David, you're just wrong about this idea that the right doesn't purity test. The right's purity test is "do you agree with and support Trump" if you don't you are out of the club until you come back and kiss the ring.
Came here to say this exact same thing. Literally look at Liz Cheney who voted with everything that Trump did the first time around, but the only reason she's hated is because she stood up to him ONE TIME. Like, wtf do we call that?
I think there's a misunderstanding? David never said they do not purity test what he *claims* is the Right and Left both demand you kiss the ring of their leaders but the Right is more relaxed about your past associations, going off message and focus more on showing up to back whomever they need to get a win.
You're crazily wrong. Disagreements are waaaaay more welcome than they are on the left.
You support Biden and he is also corrupt
Some people are more conservative in social issues so they vote republican some people the opposite so they vote democrat
Either way leaders are all corrupt and it's about spreading populism mindset and advancing populist which needs bipartisan support among populists on both sides to succeed
You cannot criticise one person for voting Trump cause he's corrupt if your voting for someone who's also corrupt
they literally call anybody not a far right wing trumper a rino lol
Oh boy. The Vanguard is gonna absolutely destroy Cenk for this...and maybe David for letting Cenk grandstand and run out the clock on the tough questions--if David even had any. But at least David got Cenk to admit that his source for his optimism is "trust me bro."
David didn’t come off well to me here, either. I think I need to accept he is just another centrist and unsubscribe.
That was the extent of the back and forth.
I had finally muted the bell for David, I hadn’t been watching him as much anymore. Always feels like he’s late to the story and Gus Israel view didn’t sit well with me
But then I saw the video yesterday about this interview and was hopeful. But I’m midway thru and I just don’t think David knows how to take the kid gloves off. We need fighters right now
I am so happy the vanguard exists. I love their energy!
You mean silly and Billy? Jk
@@amusecalledkayla1140 Same. I was optimistic based on David's preview yesterday and how naive he thought Cenk was. But then he didn't come at Cenk at all. I think David is naive if he thinks Cenk is naive. Cenk is calculating his pivot to the right very precisely. So glad Silly and Billy are all over this.
Never trust ppl that are paid to have an opinion
Hahaha Cenk says MAGA will tell Trump “Nah. That’s enough brother-man.” If he supports Israel? 😂😂😂
He's a fucking moron. He's actually going to sit there and say that the new Republican party is not for tax cuts for the rich and they all McConnell...who is buying this shit? Did he vote for Trump?
like I hear what Cenk is saying, I just seriously question if he actually believes it, deep down. Just don't think this is the engagement the average voter has, it's more gut instinct and surface level appraisals to appeal to their base beliefs.
@ This 1000%. We need to be appealing to normal people who don’t follow this stuff. A straightforward working class politics.
Anybody listening to Charlie Kirk is so indoctrinated in their echo chamber, and they’re such a small population, it can’t possibly be worth sucking up to them.
Idk what Cenk thinks he’s doing.
Hilarious!🤣
@@misselthwaitemanor We've seen conservative voters and/or conservative media demand that GOP politicians be crazier on issues like election denial and anti-vaccine stupidity, but the idea that conservative voters are going to demand that GOP politicians support Israel less and cut military spending is pure nonsense, for the simple reason that GOP voters support Israel and support military spending. Look at the polls, GOP voters are much more pro-Israel than Dem voters, and Dem voters did not force Biden to stop sending weapons to Israel.
Also, Trump and the GOP are going to give huge tax cuts to high-income people, and there is zero reason to think that GOP voters are going to stop that, after all, they are the ones who voted for politicians promising tax cuts to high-income people. The GOP has long been known for cutting taxes on the rich. If Trump were to cut Social Security, that would probably be a red line, but cutting less popular welfare programs probably won't be. Again, look at the polls, GOP voters are much more likely than Dem voters to think the government is spending too much on welfare for poor people.
David you were way too nice here. Didn’t call this guy out on any of his grifting BS.
Exactly already giving him a pass
Where is the grifting? I have yet to see an example of Cenk betraying his values on his right wing media tour recently. Seems like your stuck in the red/blue political binary, I suggest trying nuance.
You heard David, they’ve been friends for years, of course David is going to kiss his rear end
David is always too nice when he is correcting people or calling people out on their BS.
Use your brain
10:21 they’re booing McConnell and Cheney because they are not as fascists as they want them to be (to be clear they ARE, but not enough for them).
And because they went after Trump and did the RIGHT thing and reprimanded him for inciting an insurrection.
They’re booing them because they don’t like Trump. That’s literally all it is.
Don't be a donkey's tush. Cheney is a fascist? Prove it. Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Calling Cheney a fascist is like Dumpy and MTG calling Democrats communists. Trump and other Republicans conjure a familiar enemy in attacking Democrats as ‘communists’. AP News, June 18, 2023
Exactly. The WHY is very important. Cenk doesn't seem to understand that
McConnell is a Confederate. Still not close to fascists. But still awful
Feels like the majority of commentators didn't watch the video till the end:
*0:00* - David Pakman introduces Cenk Uygur and welcomes him back to the show.
*0:23* - David explains his understanding of the controversy surrounding Cenk and asks for clarification.
*0:53* - David discusses Cenk’s appearance at America Fest with Charlie Kirk and the criticism it received.
*1:16* - David mentions strained relationships with former acquaintances and asks Cenk about the fallout.
*1:38* - Cenk responds to David’s summary of the controversy and acknowledges concerns.
*2:04* - David shares his view on engaging with the right wing and the potential benefits.
*2:24* - David expresses concerns about the feasibility of working with right-wing figures.
*3:17* - Cenk acknowledges the concerns and explains why he’s not following the path of Dave Rubin.
*4:02* - Cenk discusses his progressive stance and the confusion it causes among viewers.
*4:30* - Cenk talks about how right-wing media frames the left and its impact on perceptions.
*5:45* - Cenk explains how his engagement with right-wing media started during the Biden primary.
*6:58* - Cenk shares his observations about changes in the right-wing base.
*7:37* - Cenk argues for the potential for unity on issues like anti-corruption and anti-war stances.
*8:56* - Cenk discusses Elon Musk and the influence of donors on politics.
*9:33* - David presents a three-part analysis of Cenk’s approach and its potential risks.
*10:17* - David questions the significance of the MAGA crowd booing Mitch McConnell and Dick Cheney.
*11:36* - David raises concerns about differing solutions to shared problems between left and right populists.
*12:24* - Cenk counters David’s concerns, arguing that the right-wing base is more open to change than people think.
*15:04* - Cenk discusses the MAGA base’s stance on war and corruption, contrasting it with traditional Republicans.
*20:15* - Cenk predicts that the MAGA base will eventually turn on Israel and challenge Trump’s policies.
*25:00* - Cenk’s call for unity and the importance of passing policy.
*26:02* - Conclusion and appreciation for the discussion.
When Cenk confronts his own narcissism, then we can make a fair assessment of where we are right now.
This!!! ⬆️
Exactly!! 🎉
Sadly, yes
Narcissists, well known for being self effacing, beacons of accountability. Cenk was never principled. Even when "advocating for progressivism"', he's always sounded like he was trying to convince himself, trying to justify his "side" (business model) to a Conservative audience.
And misogyny. There was no mention that women even exist.
Not buying it Cenk. He’s justifying his position to save his show by embracing MAGA. A leopard will not change its spots.
If a leopard doesn't change his spots, then why are you implying that a man who has been fighting for left wing policies for decades is now grifting?
@@MaMastoast perfect response
I stomached about 15 minutes of Cenk. I can't buy any of his nonsense.
@@MaMastoast Because it's possible that that's all he's be doing all this time, and now he's kicking it into high gear because he's losing money?
@@MaMastoastgot ‘em ! 😂
The idea that the right is not doing purity tests is hilarious when you’re literally booted from the party if you don’t bend the knee to Trump
exactly! Ask Liz Cheney how she feels about whether the right conducts purity tests.
Not only that, but TYT and the like purity tested Hilary Clinton to death in 2016 when she ran against and even after she beat Bernie Sanders.
Except that's the only purity test on the right, granted, it's a BIG one. The left has MULTIPLE constant purity tests and they will cancel people for only agreeing on 95% of issues.
⬆️ this!
Cenk even admitted this in an earlier debate yet he keeps pretending
It depends. There are definitely people who do purity tests, but there is a large portion of the party that will welcome you in.
Not mentioned here is David's refusal to criticise Israel.
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"They hate the wars!"
Entire MAGA base after one(1) press conference: "URA ANNEX GREENLAND, ANNEX PANAMA, ANNEX CANADA"
Newsflash..no wars under Trump... the fear mongering on the left is baseless.
Cenk is dishonest, simple as that
These are the same guys who named their company after the og young Turks. Look up what their group was about.
I have seen those comments, they are all supporting him doing it. Perhaps they do not understand that all this annexing means war, would not be surprised.
Annexing isn't war it's redrawing the lines! Calling it.
He’s lost all credibility with me. I can’t believe a word he says anymore
I do like others there.
I agree, Pakman is a two faced commie
Cent is a grifter but Ana Gabbard is a closet right winger wanting to bust out. Unsubscribed
No doubt. You literally admitted that his base has followed blindly everything he says and never disagrees or doesn't go behind him but they magically won't if he starts invading our allies even though they currently comment that that's a good idea and we should just continue manifest destiny on our allies that already are sovereign neighbors and other people? Lol 😂 these people are totally insane. None of them actually paid attention even in middle school let alone high school and none of them went to college and somehow chank is well we obviously know he must have taken a bunch of money because there's no other way that he is being this dumb
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Cenk and Anna are free to support whoever they like and good luck to them. I've unsubscribed from TYT because I'm not fashionably rightwing.
You unsubscribed because they stopped tickling your confirmation bias.
@@ricardocabeza6006or maybe because their programming has steadily devolved (with Anna leading the charge since I can’t remember how long now) and with everyone watching
@@tsl0073 But when you say "devolved"... all you really mean is they are not saying what you'd like to hear.
@@ricardocabeza6006 With devolving TSL means that they've been starting to cover false news (Migrant gangs taking over housing complexes) when the bare minimum of effort for a news program shows that what they said was entirely false, that combined with them going back and blaming for example Portugals drug policy (which Ana and Cenk were GLOWING about how progressive it was) and blaming the now increase in drug usage on their program rather than the right wing gutting the program and similar shit like that. They've for years moved towards a more center left position from previously being progressive. That's what TSL means. There is also the problem that Cent ADMITTED on Hasanabi's "cenksgiving stream" that he takes many of these stances BECAUSE 2-4 TWITTER USERS are telling him to be more progressive... Yes really. That's why he is willing to go on right wing shows and bash the left, because a few twitter people said he wasn't sufficiently progressive enough and his ego was bruised. That's why he keeps on proclaiming that he is the "bastion of progressivism", despite having accepted right wing framing and thus policies on many topics
I'm a tad confused by the pivot, strictly from a business perspective. It is a FANTASY that TYT would ever sway a large number of Maga voters to listen to them by swinging at the left and sucking off the worst of those among right . For better or worse, they're going to lose customers.
He makes a lot of sense.
I won't support anyone who pacifies the MAGA crowd in any way. I'm sorry, but a line has to be drawn. 💠
OK, bubble boy.
Careful when you step outside your front door, someone may disagree with your principles out there.
Maga here, cenk is right majority of Republicans i know are antiwar and if trump brings us into a war he will definitely lose alot of support from the right
I agree. I left TYT too because of this. There's too much aiming left ward while "getting a beer" with the right.
Of course!!!!!
Relying on MAGA to keep Trump in check seems like a losing strategy to me.
Well Cenk has outlined his strategy. What is the opposing strategy?
Trump does what we want him to do...
Being a giant loser and saying "I HATE EVERYTHING ABOUT ANYONE WHO ISNT AS PISSED AS ME WAAA WAAA" is just disgusting and that's your strategy. YOu'll lose FOREVER with your "strategy"
He’s “on the ground”? What a dumbass, he’s gone on conservative podcasts who talk shit for engagement. They will change their tune as soon as their daddy tells them to
I think you are. A losing strategy as it relates to Humanity.
Four thoughts I had near the end: 1) Trump won the popular vote by 1.4 percent, the smallest margin in recent history. 2) Trump did not receive 50 percent of the popular vote, meaning, more people against him, just to different candidates. 3) More eligible voters decided not to vote in the presidential election than to vote for a candidate. Given all that, 4) it would make more sense to reach out and be friendly to those in the center and on the center left than to those on the right, especially when you call your outlet the "home of the progressives."
i would say that it would get more people out there voting for better polivies if democrats did not run being middle of the road. people want chanmge. we should remind the demoicrat party about that.
You think the left is doing anything for reaching out to the centre or the centre-left for that matter? They kicked them out for disagreeing or even saying 'yeah I agree with the republicans on this'. Nobody on the right was taking a break from their family, THIER OWN FAMILY! because they voted dems. But there were thousands of examples of that on the left, on the mainsteam networks they were promoting this idea! Your people need to drop this puritanism if they ever intend to win an election again.
The left across the globe has been decimated due this, there is still time for you to learn, so learn!
@@carlfratus7481
Agree, let's start with the Pod Save America audience. They were receptive to Hasan, and their reaction to that interview with Harris team members was not positive. Those guys are likely to be receptive to a true lefty message.
@carlfratus7481 I definitely agree. But right now, post election, I would rather people doing what Kyle Kulinski from Secular Talk is and try to unite liberals and progressives, instead of Cenk being friendly to the far right.
@@MxTheLight Our side failed to inspire. No matter how tiny the margin, those that cared to vote were more red than blue. Why did the center go red? We need to get out of our bubble.
this was good solid debate. thanks for hosting it. Its sad so many comments reveal they were just looking for self-verification
Just visited TYT to listen to them sanewash Trump's rantings about Greenland. There needs to be less talk about what would be gained and more about how it's fucking crazy and shouldn't even be entertained. Hearing some on the left laugh at Trump shows their ignorance of the new flippancy of evil. They'll be laughing all the way to the goosestepping.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the media has been taking a huge hit over the last year and Cenk starts trying to appeal to Trump supporters. Smells like he is just trying to get a broader audience. Lost a lot of respect for him.
Oh are you the comedy police now?
@@brianbuchanan4213the broader audience comes in to play with dropping sound bites to their audience. If you give them something to focus on and to watch their leaders react their bse has more focus when the screwing over really kicks in
@@trancendental5373Hey SERIOUSLY
GOP attack KAMALA as communist and Dems as socialist
YOU TWO SHOULD TAKE 10 TRAVEL DAYS TRIP TO CHINA AND WITNESS WHAT Communist Socialist is really like 😊
People aren't taking this as seriously as they should. I think, in part, due to Trump fatigue. He has worn everyone down and has free reign in his final act.
Cenk’s actions are deeply disingenuous, and he is fully aware of it. The issue has never been his appearances on right-wing platforms; rather, it’s the way he panders to MAGA figures like Charlie Kirk, offering uncritical praise and avoiding any meaningful left wing stance. His conduct comes across as a blatant attempt to ingratiate himself with that audience, which is both disappointing and counterproductive for someone who claims to represent left-wing values. Unfortunately, David Pakman failed to hold Cenk accountable during their interview. While the lack of rigor or push back from David isn’t entirely surprising, it remains deeply disappointing.
I wish I could thumbs up this 10x. Thank you!
See Francesca’s cenk interview for a beautiful example of how to push back without sane washing or failing to show how TRULY BAD Cenk’s sell out has been!
"offering uncritical praise" Of who/what?
"avoiding any meaningful left wing stance" He's consistently talking about reining in corporate subsidies, increasing taxes for companies and the rich.
"failed to hold Cenk accountable" Accountable to who? He doesn't have to answer to anyone for his positions
This take is not well substantiated.
Thats David Wackman for you.
Yeah it’s not the presence it’s the awkward softballs. I think it’s a media company. They’re trying to bridge a gap but it’s falling flat. I’ve seen them have good conversation with Charlie Kirk. Going into hostile territory does not mean ignoring issues. People liked TYT for being more bold.
@@marca9955 It’s clear you didn’t carefully watch or analyze Cenk’s appearance on Charlie Kirk’s “Turning Points.” During the discussion, he offered no meaningful pushback, expressed only positive views about the right, and focused his criticisms solely on the left. (And this wasn’t a singular event in time for Cenk or Anna) While there’s nothing inherently wrong with critiquing one’s own side, this approach comes across as overly cautious and obeying in advance, reminiscent of figures like Morning Joe and ABC, who often appear to preemptively conform rather than take a principled stand. Now is not the time to cower to the right wing..
I'm fed up with this Cenk guy & his Dem/left bashing. Stop giving him a platform to push his BS.
It’s funny that with all the Dem bashing he does he has the nerve to complain about purity tests on the left, when he’s one of the worst for it.
No…we have to talk to ppl.
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Based on what ? You sound like bot
@@lisaferris1 lol NO your comment is exactly like a bot...
When he says that Trump is corrupt, it’s obvious, when you say that Harris and Biden are corrupt, please explain, it’s not obvious!
Hunter biden laptop, pulling out of Afghanistan, opening our border to 12 million plus people completely unchecked unvetted. Screaming and cursing at twitter and facebook to take down FACTUAL information trying to get people to take a vaccine against their will or lose their jobs home business etc. want me to keep going?
Yes it is.
Then explain it.
@@robertcortes5361 funny I wrote an articulate full detailed message earlier and it was deleted seems like you guys don't wanna hear the truth
@@robertcortes5361 lmfao my comment got deleted again!!!
I quit watching his show about a year ago. All he ever did was put the Democrats down. He is one weird dude.
Yup
I criticized him back in 2016 for so vehemently bashing Hilary. I wanted Bernie too, and didn’t like her hawkishness but she wasn’t trump and we have a two party system. Trump won because just like now too many dems stayed home. Cenk bears some responsibility for that.
Agree. I started watching US politics on UA-cam 6 months ago and in the beginning, I watched his channel, but I was quickly annoyed about his constant attack on dems.
you think this just started a year ago?
they have been attacking dems for years
@@johntaylor4817 the bern is as evil as cenk. the bern stayed in the race far too long and poisoned the electorate against clinton.....he isnt a dem and the dnc had every right to upend is candidacy
The issue with them booing McConnel, is not them booing cause they think he’s corrupt. It’s that they are booing him cause he won’t have a “backbone” and do what trump wants all the time
Bingo!
Exactly, MAGA hate anyone on the right who don’t treat Trump like a king. This is why they call them Rino.
YEP!! They will be doing that to Thune soon!!
Exactly.
We are booing him because he is a corrupt old politician.
He needs to be removed from office just like Nancy Pelosi.
Cenck is full of it. Hanging out with racist like Charlie Kirk and not challenging him when an opportunity presents itself is a waste of time.
Can you give me a clear cut quote from Charlie Kirk that's racist?
@@tacitus6384 He has suggested multiple times that black people are more violent due to their genetics, and brings up the misquoted 13/50 crime stat to support it. He did it once that I can remember in the Jubilee video he was in. He's said the same thing about Mexicans too, suggesting the a large majority of the illegal immigrants in the US are murderers, r*pists, etc, despite statistics showing the exact opposite to be true.
@@tacitus6384
If you're not a liberal then you're a racist. Duh! They don't have a lot of cards to play, so don't try to take away their favorite one!
@@tacitus6384 i could but you would just move the goal post and defend it as, "Nuh Uh!"
@@SteveVanWinkle It needs to be clear. No "it's a dog whistle I can see even though you can't" vagueries.
I can’t believe I used to like BOTH David and Cenk. Now I literally cant stand to hear either of them speak.
A couple of woke maga soy boys. 👨🏻❤️💋👨🏻😂
Very respectful guys. Well done Dave. I'd expect nothing different. Cenk has kind of been mean lately. I was really upset with how he treated Lichtmann!
Thank you, David for wasting 26:12 of my life that was the most polite pushback 🤔🙄😒
Have you seen the convo with Francesca? It was good. I felt so bad for her after truly looking up to Cenk.
It was semi good I felt bad for her too she's a victim and this a hole said she's not and he's victim yea right lsoer cenk
I muted the whole thing, can’t stand his voice.
Ok, time to unfollow Young Turks. How he can be anti-corruption and embrace it because "Oh not everybody is corrupted in the far-right". This is plain stupid.
Unsubscribed
And David Packman!!!!
@@Inugamiz he also said, Democrats created corruption..wtf.
Oh thats mature. You don't agree so you leave. See how far that is going to get you.
@@magneto6698people can unsubscribe if they want lol you’re not subscriber police.
3 words : Cenk is spineless . 😒
Cenk is grifter 💰
And spineless
Cenk is also spineless.
I disagree... he has plenty of spin.
now count the genders
Cenk is such a self promoter. I doubt that he even has an ideology. He seems to agree with the deepest pockets. I fell for his sh!t fr years and feel stupid.
"I think his base is gonna turn on Israel.". Yeah, that's somewhere between delusional and moronic.
wishful thinking...
exactly 😂😂😂 he swear whytes supremacist don't hate Muslims more than jews
He must be fucking stupid... really? Israel will be the issue where MAGA breaks from Trump? don't make me laugh
If anything it could be immigration but I don't think EVEN that will happen. Cause Trump will just lie and say he did a great job, Fox will repeat it, Dave Rubin and Ben Shapiro too.
And suddenly... reality doesn't matter so much anymore. Isn't fantasy just so comforting? 😊
These are the delusions of Cenk the massive antisemite asshole.
I watch a bit of Fox News for the satire and reading through the comments, you would be surprised at the growing animosity towards Israel, it’s mostly in the context of funding, not Gaza, but even so the hostility is slowly growing.
Cenk consistently misdirects both the conversation and his own culpability. You pin him down and he gets loud, denies, then starts to point to someone who is actually doing exactly what he is doing. I don’t think my words have done it justice but It’s fascinating to watch.
This has always been his strategy
he does it because he can't answer the question its obvious.
agree with this excepting the fascinating part. For me it is boringly annoying at this point.
I'm right there with you brother. I agree completely
Narcissistic personality behavioral patterns.
I won’t watch TYT anymore and I unsubscribed because Cenk has gone too far right
You have gone too far whacky.
@@singed8853 It's spelled "wacky" dear. Now do us all a favor and brush your tooth.
@@singed8853 Uygur was far-Left until his audience saw through him, so he became far-Right.
He's an opportunist.
@@jnagarya519 he is not far right… you are doing exactly what the right (and part of the left) did during McCarthyism “YOU WANT WORKERS RIGHTS AND A DECENT MINIMUM WAGE??? COMMUNIST COMMUNIST COMMUNIST” id suggest some nuance
What’s wrong with being too right?
14:09 he says "they genuinely hate the corruption ". Seriously? You think right wing maga hates the right wing, trump style, corruption? Give me a break Cenk. You are diluted. You've lost the script . I think you are trying to save your show by doing whatever you can think of to get right wing subs.
They don't hate corruption.
The voted for Trump because they wanted his corruption to benefit THEM.
Nah, Cenk, as a huge fan for over a decade, I unsubscribed when I saw you & Anna be anything but allies. I have a trans teen and you two absolutely are hurting these kids. I don't care what you think. When you two change your transphobic rhetoric I will check back in to see what you have.
Absolutely!
You were duped for that long!?
I noticed he slipped that in. There is a place to criticize that absolute sameness demands and to the demand that the word man and woman requires a prefix. Trans Man and Trans Woman require that prefix for a unique and acceptable reason. Equal does not have to mean the same.
@@rjp3america747 I think we need to learn how to mind our own business instead of sticking with how to label others.
Don't bother checking back, once the magats are done using them as useful idiots they'll be right back here saying "So! What's for dinner?"
Cenk has reached the "just trust me, bro" phase of his career
This guy only has so many subs because he was one of the OGs who embraced UA-cam. Nothing more.
He actually thought he could mount a credible presidential campaign 🙄
It's fucking disgusting, I hope David pushes back harder in the future. He should also be pointing out Anna's evil shit
He's speaking about what the FUTURE brings. Nobody knows, so the best you can do is "sell" your sense of what will happen.
It isn't important if he is right (it isn't about him). It is important to find out if you can work with some of those who voted in Trump in order to create policies that help both America and the world.
He was right that "it's about policies, stupid" (a take on Clinton's "it's about the economy, stupid"), not POLITICAL INDENTITIES.
@@busylivingnotdying I hope you're right, my friend. I have a strong "sense" that you're not.
These guys are both hustlers. Cenk is at least passionate about it. David is just. I have no words
Cenk: oh look, they’re booing Hitler, they’re just like us 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Cenk's pulling a Morning Joe on us. No doubt.
Morning jank
Yep!! He even said he’d go meet with Trumpturd at Mar-A-Lago if he had the chance!! That’s 100% a MORNING BLOW move (job)!!
@@carlostherocker6822 totally...yet I think he made fun of them for it
I think he and Ana want a little show on fox where they can pretend to be from the left,but now “telling the truth”. That way fox can say that Jessica Tarloff isn’t their only liberal.
@jt123abc The hypocrisy! OMG!
In gonna be honest, this interview felt more like you were trying to clean up Cenks reputation than actually be a progressive.
Exactly right ✅️, really disappointing to platform nonsense
David Packman is not progressive
Yeah I don’t know about David anymore. I could swear he use to do much more pushback when interviewing
For sure-felt almost like a paid PR tour. I'm not saying it was, but it gave off that same energy in that David gave almost zero pushback on softball questions while ignoring all the TERF culture war and bashing the left TYT has been engaging in.
Cenk is wearing the rose-tinted glasses. "naive" is the right term.
Man he’s all over the place here, at 25:00 he berates “the left” for not reaching out to the right and that’s why they lost the PV. But only a few minutes earlier goes after Kamala Harris for literally making that the centrepiece of her campaign?!
Not surprised I have to explain this to a Democrat. Neither Dick or Liz Cheney represents the modern right AT ALL. Kamala "reaching out" to them is NOT her reaching out to the right. Every time Democrats speak its apparent how disconnected & detached you guys are from reality. Decondition from MSNBC & CNN or remain in your delusion.
Being a right wing grifter involves enormous contradictions.
Independent of Cenk, parading out Liz Cheney is not welcoming but pandering to their base. Most of Congress is not popular so treating them as celebrities does nothing.
Did Democrats talk about what matters to those further right?
They lost the PV because of global inflation and price gouging. He made up his mind why they lost and refuses to see the obvious, very clear, reason. A lot of incumbents(left wing and right wing) lost this election cycle because of this. People can say it's because of the trans issues, the border, the healthcare situation. They have many polls on this. Number 1 reason is inflation. Cenk has never been proven wrong in a debate. He's not there to "argue". He's there to say what he wants to say and then leave. Doesn't care about facts. He might change his mind later on, but it's never because of being proven wrong by someone else.
@@zwiggins no... and that is what pretty much everyone on the left is discussing.
The only take I get from MAGA is, man a lot of this country is stupid as f and we are screwed as a country going forward.
I hope you realize you're exactly like the red hat people. They thought the same thing in 2020 when Biden got into office.
This is why I like Pakman. He's willing to have civil discussions, even with right-wingers.
LOL
This is exactly what Cenk was talking about, if anyone slightly disagree with the left they push them out
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
LMFAO!
Cenk just decided to go back to his old ways before he left the right. We all saw him going down this route along with Ana. It's sad honestly, but he knows he's turning off a huge part of the base. Bye Cenk. Bye.
They booing McConnell because he is (slightly) against their God-King! Not because they are against McConnell’s politics and positions.
Cenk is looking for any excuse. He is just plain wrong.
This!
Spot on!
EXACTLY!
No its both. Black and white thinking is qlways wrong. Thats whybyou guys are wrong on this one
Cenk is naive. He is forgetting the racism.
I don’t think he cares
Stop with the racism! Identity politics is the problem with this country
@@truefacts404 Typical Turk.
@@truefacts404 you’re an idiot lol
Not naive. He knows but grifting 💰 is yummy to Cent
Cenk is not the sharpest knife in the kitchen.
😂😂😂😂
Hm...I wouldn't agree with you on that; he has been "ahead of the curve" in the past and moreover, were he to be stupid or naieve, he wouldn't last as long as he has in this field. I will say that he can "bull-headed" at times, but in this interview he explained his position well and I certainly didn't see him as "arrogant," he did say "we'll see if I'm right about this," as I understand it. Just my humble opinion; I hope he is right that the MAGAs will turn on their deity at some point, but I can't see it happening, at least not on the evidence I've seen so far.
@@shortallliam3142 "Were he to be stupid or naieve, he wouldn't last as long as he has in this field" An absurd claim. How are you still pushing the idea of a meritocracy at this point? It should be abundantly clear we live in a society were stupidity and naivity aren't barriers to financial success.
@@shortallliam3142I think this is an accurate depiction. Cenk can definitely be "bull-headed" and gets really aggressively defensive when he's directly challenged (see the interview with Francesca Fiorrentini). And conversely, to his credit, Cenk has absolutely been right about things when basically everyone else was saying he was wrong.
That said, I think, if anything, his naive optimism is getting the better of him here. He has talked about that quality in himself in the past, so he's aware, but I don't think he realizes how much his hope that right wing voters will band together with progressives on economic issues is causing him to act in ways that drive away progressives, so, even if he does win over some of these right wing voters, it would be a net loss towards actually getting anything done.
I actually hope Cenk is right and I'm wrong, but I highly doubt it.
william what is your solution? Atleast Cenk is trying to get progressive policy passed during this second Trump era, at worst it atleast distracts Trump from doing other horrendous things.
Yeah I agree with you, David, Cenk is a bit naive about MAGA, because his theories would only work if they were well educated and not blinded by smoke and mirrors.
The salient point. It is a cult. There is nothing more to say after that. He could shoot someone on fifth avenue.......Cenk seems to have forgotten this rather important point.
Yea so why did he 3 minutes in say he agrees with a lot of what cebk says it's crazy how contradicted it came off u have to hit hard with nazi lovers right away not say keep in mind I agree with a lot of what I say naw David I'm so sick of these Podcasters say that crap
@camb6245 wow, is that how UA-cam and meta allow you to state banned words, because you use run on sentences? Your statement doesn't make any sense. Did you lose some brain cells drinking too much alcohol? It's you, not the letter u.
@camb6245 Your run on sentence does not make any sense.
He’s not naive, he’s just corrupt and looking to grift with the government in power.
“First they came for the socialists…” Cenk should remember that’s what right wing “populists” do to left wing populists
Exactly. Fascists come after their political opponents FIRST. Before the immigrants, before the minorities, before anyone else. They take out the political opposition first.
He should look at Ernst Rohm and remember what right wing "populists" do to right wing populists.
As you mention Martin Niemöller - what Cenk SHOULD say in this audience is that in 1933 97% of the germans were christians - and the population voted 45% for Hitler.
So a demonstration that religion does NOT mean that you do not fall for totalitarians.
That christianity has ALWAYS in history arranged itself to the ones in power - from tolerating to cooperating to supporting to blessing to declaring the man in power is Chosen by God and is executing (lol) God's Will.
Might be why his chicken 💩 butt flipped😂
@@jamesgillen2339 bingo
Boo on cenk and ana, I will never switch sides family members have died fighting for equality for all.........
We need to convince the other side, or atleast some of them, that our ideas are better, that is how democracy works, we need to talk to them and stop calling each other names.... People are just stuck in media bubbles, they aint all bad people. They can be convinced if we can talk to them.
@@adotjon78So we all just imagined people dying during the Civil Rights movement?
@@AKCFTW OP imagined being related to them...
we have had equality for all for 60 years what you want is equity for all and that makes you sick in the head.
@@dannyweaver7322no just like the Nazis...they are bad people
Underwhelmed by DPaks lack of push back on Cenk
So disappointed in Cenk and Ana.
I’m not surprised
They’ve been doing this kinda of shit for years
Only difference is now they’re open about their allegiances instead of pretending
I have unsubscribed….
They were always trash.
They’ve come to the darkside.
I dontwsych hom anymore he flip flops i dont need him
Cenk literally said he doesn't mind Trump talking about taking over countries. His opinions are irrelevant to me at this point.
This is why the left will continue to lose elections. Did he say he agrees with Trump taking over countries? Like your self-righteousness is incredibly disgusting
Dude comes from a country who doesn't believe Greece is real cause they're still butthurt the natives took their land back over 200 years ago. Not all obviously but too many.
When did he say that? Just curious, I honestly don't know...
WTF?! When was this?! I'm genuinely curious...
absurd. when did he say that or condone that ?
Ana Kasparian never criticises Trump anymore.
@tigers456 She absolutely does, all the time.
@ She criticises Biden a lot more. And she relishes it. Even today in response to his press conference, she uses kid gloves.
That's a flat out lie. This must be some Russian op or something.
Congratulations on being an idiot
Two clowns
The fact that Cenk is willing to discuss with popular MAGA figures barely constitutes a small fraction of the "controversy". Much more concerning is Cenk and Ana's hard turn to the right as exemplified with their growing willingness to parrot right-wing talking points in blaming the homeless, the immigrants and trans people for the electoral woes of the left.
They also do their own (like Fox) version of "Fair and Balanced" by pushing the false notion that Dems are just as guilty of corruption and bad policy making as the right. In other words, they focus on False Equivalencies too often.
oh boo hoo. neither of them ever blame the individuals directly but rather the issues. and they are correct. nuance is hard lil bro it's ok.
"You can't tell the people in charge who won the popular vote that we're going to hate all of you, we're never going to work with you" Trump and MAGA have literally done that for an entire decade, he doesn't even pretend to want to be bipartisan he literally talks crap and makes stupid nicknames for Dems and blue states, it's infuriating how he doesn't see this ridiculous double standard.
@@emjay-gaming And that needs to change, MAGA has to wake up too.
@@iolitelight It needs to change and MAGA needs to wake up in that they have to move to the Left. It doesn't need to change in that we cooperate with madmen.
@@ZeeZed153 The Democrats need to move back to the Left where they belong. They're certainly NOT there now. Otherwise, where were they during the Palestine invasion? Oh, yeah. Funding Satanyahu. Doing nothing for Palestine. Allowed him to appear and browbeat their own citizens for calling him out for being a fucking war criminal. Chiding the voting public, rather than listening to their constituents.
What else did they do? Oh, yeah. LIED to the US people about Biden's mental competence.
We could all see it.
If they'd been smart, they would've let Biden bow out sooner and chosen a more reasonable replacement than that nothingburger COPmala.
It seems like your goal is to beat the other team, rather than to focus on policy. This is where the error is.
That, and people assuming that everyone's going to vote along traditional party lines.
Didn't happen, did it? Then the Democrats need to listen to their constituents, rather than just assuming that traditional voting blocs are going to vote as they always do.
Listen to their voters and not chide them for having opinions. Or the same will happen again next time. Some monster like Trump will come along, and be able to trick a large part of their opponent's constituency for either voting for them, or not voting at all because they see no change to the corrupt status quo under their watch.
@@iolitelightWhy would MAGA need to wake up? Their strategy has worked mightily. They're in charge now. In fact it's the Dems that have to let go of their dumb bipartisan strategy and start getting aggressive.
David agreeing that we pushed people out sickens me. Show me the receipts, David. You are just appeasing Cenk!!!
Oh democrats most definitely pushed people out. Ask RFK. Ask Elon and Joe Rogan. Ask the 7 million fewer voters democrats received. Look at new voter registration being more republican than democrat for the first time in decades. The party is losing people and there are reasons for it.
Oh democrats most definitely pushed people out. Ask RFK. Ask Elon and Joe Rogan. Ask the 7 million fewer voters democrats received. Look at new voter registration being more republican than democrat for the first time in decades. The party is losing people and there are reasons for it.
The left has pushed people to the right.
We did though
@BANGbucketHEAD then you give.me proof... not just set up strawmen the way Cenk does.
So Cenk is doing "I'm the reasonable Jimmy Dore". What a freaking HACK
Cenk is a mess
He really looks like sh!t. He is not well. He is too dug in to American fascism now and he knows it. He'll never concede it, but he does know it. Clearly. His skin condition gives it away.
David you needed to call Cenk out way way harder
He was afraid cenk might kill himself if the left “bullied” him anymore
I agree. David is good and very civil, but it can come off as playoff softball sometimes.
100%!
"I PILLOW FIGHT with Cenk Uyger" is a better title.
TRUTH!!! This is the problem with our side. We have people that refuse to actually get dirty. If idk, Glenn Beck started going on Maddow and Lawrence you think Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro would ask softball questions, and let him just lie about what isn't even close to reality? They would drag his ass to the wood shed for lying for so long. THAT'S why the right keeps winning. Because people are tired of the civility. There comes a fucking point, when civility turns into being a fucking doormat.
Even David and his usual softball interviews, didn't make Cenk sound better... imagine both agreeing that the party of neo-Nazis is more welcoming🤷🏾♂️🤢
Bingo.
Agreed. This "confrontation" was a nothing burger.
I’m a huge tyt supporter and it’s refreshing to see good faith conversations with Cenk about how he’s approaching the right wing. Love to see it!!
Really? Cenk is now all in with the right wing party..his sponsors are right wing.
Wake da hell up.
You are full of crap Cenk. Everyone should unsubscribe from tyt
I did long ago, The voices have been winning with Cenk for a while now.
Cenk thinks he's the Maga whisperer lol 🤣
Funny, but yeah. You're spot on.
That's Joe Rogan's job. C is just a bad political sportscaster now.
“Confront” doing a fuck load of work in this title. You didn’t confront anything
Platform is the word he was looking for.
@@opinion3742 facts
Very true, David you failed as hard as Cenk has been failing.
David is much smarter than his fan base. Which is why although he doesn’t fully agree with Cenk and his strategy. He respects his opinion and doesn’t believe he is a right winger or MAGA. That is why it doesn’t sound like he ‘confronted’ him to you emotional mental midgets 👍
I just unsubscribed. David basically endorsed Cenk.
Cenk just demonstrated "Whataboutism"
“The Right is so welcoming 🥰”
-Cenk, 2024
Cenk, why don’t you go to an immigrant’s rights meeting, and tell that to victims of the family separation policy?
Did you know all crimes come with a family separation policy? Did you also know that entering the country undocumented is a crime, as it is in all developed nations? Did you know that Ellis Island was known as the "Island of Tears" due to the family separation policy, including deporting children on their own once they reached the age of 12? It doesn't seem like you know about any of this...
Lol you can’t be serious. No wonder why the right doesn’t want to have serious talks with such foolish thickheaded people.
they are not supposed to be here what do you think would happen if you took your family somewhere illegally you would be separated
I completely get the sentiment, but we have to leave room for practical political discourse. Is that messy? Does it raise ethical questions? Is there going to be a gray area during such discussions AT BEST?? Fucking yes.. obviously.. but for fucks sake if we don't try to have them then where the hell are we trying to land? Only in pastures of purity? Trust me, most people don't engage with any political topic with real depth. It takes too much time and too much emotional resources, so it all falls to heuristic problem solving, i.e. Stereotypes, broad concepts, quick decision strategies. It's how the human brain works.. honestly maybe cuz it's been 15ish years of consuming online political content, mixed with disappointments along the way, and plenty of in person political disagreements, but I'm sick and tired of purely oppositional discourse that boils down to us vs them. I get pushed into a position of defending shit I don't believe, the OTHER person gets pushed into defending shit they don't fully believe and only stress and anxiety results.. There's just no real return outside of pumping up ones own bubble. Which trust me has mental health value, but isn't enough to sustain a healthy world view.. I dunno man, I just don't give a shit about this Cenk controversy.. he's still the same person he's always been if you're paying attention. Calls it as best he sees it. Agree or disagree with him. Fuck purity tests, they only embolden ones biases..
@@tonywebb1403 America wasn't supposed to destabilize Latin America for decades and yet here we are. Clean the mess your government left and then talk to me about what's legal or not.
How does Cenk not see what a fool he is being?
Blinded by greed. Rightwing greed.
Narcissist Never Sees Themselves as Some of Us do. Sad!
Wow the irony of this comment is absolutely palpable 😂
@BettyVeronica2.0Hey SERIOUSLY
GOP attack KAMALA as communist and Dems as socialist
YOU TWO SHOULD TAKE 10 TRAVEL DAYS TRIP TO CHINA AND WITNESS WHAT Communist Socialist is really like 😊
@@john1425Do tell.