The Prime Minister - Panorama - Monday 09 April 1984. The Prime Minister live from Downing Street, Sir Robin Day interviews Mrs Thatcher as she approaches her sixth year in office.
Whatever you think of her politics, her intelligence and ability to communicate and debate properly is just so refreshing in this new age of name calling, vacuous, clowns in politics.
No. Her politics were rank. Yes, our current politicians are twats, but never fall into the trap of ranking them against that bag of sewage! Blair was the last proper P.M in the UK.
@@gavinpowers1217 Blair has the blood of hundreds of thousands on his hands and literally bankrupted the country. Your opinion is totally invalid if you think he was any good.
@@gavinpowers1217 You did exactly what the o.p. said discourse has sunk to: you've got not one substantive bit of criticism of Thatcher, you only have a vague notion of her impact and her ideology. You think you're against those notions that you only vaguely understand and you decide to vehemently oppose what you think she was about by engaging in dramatic (and not substantive) name calling: "rank", "bag of sewage". You're simply attempting to keep people from a proper understanding of Thatcher by using intimidating language. You want people to remain as ignorant as you because misery does like company.
Lady Thatcher knew exactly what she was talking about always and she answered each question with knowledge and in full and wouldn't move on till the question had been answered clearly. Its so rare to find a politician today who seems to know anything and even the current pm struggles to know half of what he's asked and Mrs Thatcher would never have been caught saying "oh I don't know!" She was a true lady and true politician and an absolute servant of the people for all of her political career and took her duty to heart! God bless the Baroness Thatcher our greatest Prime Minister! I imagine she's been voted as pm in heaven too! Rest gently Maggie ❤
For some reason we all hated her but now I see her very differently and wish we had someone of her strength,, intelligence and clarity of vision in politics today
Born in the mid 70s, growing up during the miner's strike, i always despised MT for no other reason than her portrayal in the media. Like a previous comment, she is the only leader ive watched that can debate by ANSWERING questions directly, admitting when she makes a mistake. But is so knowledgeable, the facts and figures she's reeling off are truly unbelievable
Whether you like her politics or not, no one can deny that this woman had a charisma, a strength, a straightforwardness that today’s politicians can only dream of having.
This is an impressive interview from Mrs Thatcher. Hard to trip someone up when they know what they're taking about. Am in no way a die hard fan of all that the Thatcher governments did - far, far from it. But I have to say the intelligence, competence, sincerity, quick-wit, and even humour in Mrs Thatcher's delivery here are really remarkable - both compared with political leaders of today and political leaders of that time. Not to lay all that at the feet of our politicians, but I think the move to sound-bite culture and 24hr news cycle have dumbed things down dreadfully in the nearly forty years since this was recorded.
It was a different era. When would Panorama now sit down with a P.M for an hour-long interview? She answers a lot of questions, very well. Yep, she was clued up on the situation. You're right. We live in a soundbite era. Blair was the last P.M who could handled this conversation without sounding cringemaking.
Fully agree Paul. The quality of exchange is far superior to today. Real, thoughtful, insightful, considered intelligible debate. Thatcher had clear principles. Even if one didn’t agree with her, one has to admire the conviction and elegance with which she defended them. It’s quite shocking to watch this side by side with political interviews in 2022 and see how far the standard of politicians and politics has fallen
I couldn’t agree more. Love her or hate her one must admire her work ethic and duty to serve the country. She genuinely viewed being PM as her calling and you can tell because she only slept 4 hours each night. This woman is so interesting and often misunderstood as a result of some of her political errors. But one cannot overlook how hard she fought for Britain.
No politician can get everything right for everyone, it's impossible to achieve and should not be demanded. But I can tell you that life for my hardworking decent working class council estate family improved IMMEASURABLY under her government - even though we didn't like to admit it at the time
Intelligent, clear-thinking and a conviction politician. What a shame that when you look at the detail in so much of what she say, one finds she was an egregious liar.
Unflappable Margaret! I wish I had paid more attention to her when she was in office. But I was too busy at the discos. Thank goodness for these type of interviews.
Maybe try having a reasonable, adult debate rather then throwing insults. But I suppose when Socialists try to have a conversation all they have in their arsenal is vile insults
@@liamb8644 coal and steel died in the 80’s or at least took significant hits. Those along with other industrial or manufacturing jobs. When the economy started to do well later in the decade, her govt didn’t do much to re-train all those that lost their jobs earlier and get them back into the workforce. Instead the bulk of the gains in the economy went to the corporate types. This thanks to her desire to shadow Reagan’s free market and privatization aspirations.
Now I can see why she was compared to Elizabeth I. Hugely enjoyable interview, and she is an incredible speaker with tremendous energy, who makes it manage to sound as though she's not just merely rattling off facts or trying to fend off flies, but is knowledgeable and debates properly - whatever anyone might say about her, she definetely deserved that top position. As someone's pointed out below, she starts off like a barrister, but the "real Margaret Thatcher" comes through towards the end!
Agree totally with this nice review of yours and of course charming and elegant. I Like the way she listens intentantly and shows courtesy in responding, it shows she has nothing to hide and is not evading points. Noone is talking over each other.
She actually started off life as a chemist so as a doctor I can see her clear thinking and rigorous scientific thinking ... analyses the facts, argues her point politely and confidently and lets the evidence do the talking. When she became PM she was more proud that she was the first scientist to become a PM more so than being the first female
@@jaredt8526 Ha! Robin Day was given a knighthood in 1981, ie under Thatcher's government. As an independent journalist, he had no business accepting it, since such awards are only notionally awarded by the Queen but in fact are decided entirely by the government that is in power. No wonder he looks awkward and just stares at his notes.
Sadly she surrounded herself by complete bastards in government. People like her advisers Charles Powell and Bernard Ingham who just told her what she wanted to hear and never told her the truth. Sycophants like John Gummer, Kenneth Baker and the scumbag Jeffrey Archer. She needed a better cabinet and advisers.
Yes she was spot on when she said she wanted a good prosperous coal industry. She really had the interests of the miners at heart, and their future. 2020 we import all of our coal.
You are sadly mistaken- and a sexist- for assuming being a man means something positive. It is simply a biological fact. Margret Thatcher was far better than most men.
She will be remembered long after many other prime ministers because she was brave and wasn’t deterred by her opponents. Things had to change . The State meddled too much in economic affairs, too many controls, too many parameters of thought. She opened up for people the faith in new opportunities, that they can create something new and different. It changed the country round. The transition was painful for many, especially in the industries like coal, and ineffective industries. She took tough decisions and saw them through.
It was only tough for the miners because the NUM refused to look after the future interests of miners, to retrain for example, and only wanted to hold on to their own power. Shame on Scargill and those who blindly followed him.
It was only tough for the miners because the NUM refused to look after the future interests of miners, to retrain for example, and only wanted to hold on to their own power. Shame on Scargill and those who blindly followed him.
Notice how professional the interviewer is. His questions are sensible and he's not expressing his own opinions. Piers Morgan could learn a lot from this.
Margaret Thatcher, hip hip hooray what an intelligent mind, look what Britain got today for prime minister the world have lost some intellectual minds.
She was brought down by her own....her treatment of her ministers treating them like schoolboys and her utter arrogance saw to her demise ....Scargill didn't need to do anything in the end....
@@briandelaney9710 - This is only partly true. Agreeing to the 1981 Pay Claim was all part of the strategy. In the three to four years leading up to the 1984-85 Miners Strike, the government were engaged in a process of what was known as "Stock Coal". A huge amount of coal (many, many millions of tons) was mined and stored at both the power stations and at the coal mines themselves. This massive Stock of coal was what allowed the coal-fired power stations to go on generating electricity during the very cold and dark months of the 1984-85 Winter. NB As there was much less global-warming and climate-change back then, UK winters were much colder back then, when compared to now. With this supply of stock coal, I read recently, when the strike began in March 1984, the government had two years of coal supplies at the power stations, plus around the amount at the coal mines as well. NB Getting these extra many more millions of tons of coal from the coal mines to the power stations would have required intervention from the Army. But even so, this meant that Arthur Scargill and the Miner's Union(s) were never going to win. They could not possibly have remained on-strike for two years. Whatever opinions you have about the strike and the reasons for the strike, Mrs Thatcher had been planning this all-along. She set a trap for Arthur Scargill & the miners. Mr Scargill was not intelligent enough to see this and he walked straight into the trap. The other issue is what happened around ten years previously. Ted Heath's democratically elected government was forced into the Three-Day-Week and then eventually brought down by the NUM. Whatever you or I might say, allowing a trade union to bring down an elected government is NOT a good thing for Democracy in this country. Furthermore, the 1984-85 Miners Strike was only five years after the 1978-79 "Winter of Discontent". Amongst the majority of the population, there was a feeling that enough-was-enough. The general population wanted the striking workers to either return to work or to get another job and allow some of the unemployed to takeover the jobs.
The way she answered the questions was commendable. She was very calm and eloquent in answering. Why would they get rid of her as PM? A really wrong move, Britain 🤦♂️
Her cabinet felt she was electoral poison and had to go. She turned into a monarch type, addressing once to the camera that "we have become a grandmother". They felt she could not win a fourth term in office. Also, they were afraid she would not leave. One historian has said that great politicians are the ones who know when to leave, politicians who become consumed by power don't know how to leave and have to be dragged out of No.10.
@@johnking5174 also she was getting divisive with her party and her people in her third term as prime minister so she had to be ousted as pm already at that time to save her party
She didn't want to sign the Maastricht treaty. She was pro single market and free trade not political unification. Major and his cronies kicked her out because of it
She didn't want to sign the Maastricht treaty. She was pro single market and free trade not political unification. Major and his cronies kicked her out because of it
Everybody with a shred of reason and good common sense is a feminist. To claim all of those people didn’t have a clue only shows yourself to be highly prejudiced and ignorant.
She's quite extraordinary in that she knows EXACTLY what she's talking about, and won't waver. She was an amazing, extraordinary woman. This is a wildly entertaining interview. Robin Day is a great interviewer, but she pretty much wipes him right off the floor. It's hilarious!
Yeah now you can invest the money you earn from investments into companies that don't exist and hope the stock market goes up while you work as a waiter serving investment bankers.
A very clever lady, who put her heart and soul in her work for a better Great Britain. I have so much respect for the Baroness Thatcher. I felt bad for her when she apologised profusely for calling Sir Robin,"Robin". He could have at least showed the same respect and acknowledged her apology.
In the days leading up to this interview taking place, she would spent days with her advisers Michael Portillo, Charles Powell and Bernard Ingham, going over and over possible questions, and memorising key data and information.
A great PM good leader, she stood no nonsence from Unions, I think we now need her back to get UK back now, Who will be as good as MT...... Teresa May? who knows
Or....Mr. Trump? And that's not a partisan jibe - I'm not American, and think R's and D's are all idiots. Name ONE contemporary politician in the West who even comes close to Thatcher's clarity, integrity, intelligence and belief in Democracy. How have we fallen so far, so quickly?
Though I couldn’t stand Mrs Thatcher , my heroine Barbara Castle (who really should have been the first woman PM) had it right when she said Mrs T was the best man among the Tories
Ayman Haboubi "Why were people moaning about her??" Ignorance, and a toxic culture of political Leftism, that permeates the main culture, which the weak-minded absorb via osmosis. For those people, memetics then takes its natural course and the infection deepens, thus leading to a deep-rooted loathing for freedom, and such a lacking of confidence in one's self and their abilities, that they'd rather have the State and Government, regulate and operate their lives for them.
I have no dislike of freedom but also value respect, justice and fairness, did that truthfully occur in our society during the 1980's and after, answer NO
“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams..
I was a child here in rural Canada during Thatcher's years - I grew up knowing very little about her, other than the name. I can't go back and fully understand the issues of the day, but I can appreciate the characters involved. Mrs. Thatcher, her opponents and the interviewers are all well spoken, polite, passionate, unafraid to speak forcefully and with conviction. Compared to how things are today, it seems another world, unrelated to what we have now. How has the West fallen so far, so quickly? We better get serious, quickly.
She was absolutely formidable here. No Prime Minister has ever had such a command over the facts and the minutiae of detail as her. I really think a lot of people would have a very different opinion of her had she left voluntarily in either '88 or '89 as that's when mistakes started to be made and she was apparently more visibly tired.
Whether you agree with her politics or not she at least tries to answer the questions with knowledge facts and details. Compared with the egotistic, weak and devious dishonest politicians we have today she really is a credit!!
Eaten bread is soon forgotten. She was never appreciated when she worked hard. Look at the political climate today. Can we be thankful for today's politicians?
gd rest her sole and her soul a good wumman like this with titanium in her blood comes round only once in a thousand years like solomon or david of the ole testament bless that wuman of valour and shut up thee vipers who dare oppose such a testament
Robin Day really floundered here, even having to resort to using the views of such 4th rate politicians as Ian Gilmour and Edward Heath to try and attack Mrs. Thatcher.
I have always been 50/50 on Mrs Thatcher. I agreed with her on the unions, which were unrestrained and corrupt to the bone, and held the country to ransom in 1974 and 1979. I agreed with her on choice, let the market decide, and less intervention by government. However I disagreed on her attitude to Ireland, the EU, the poll tax, especially the poll tax, which was more Labour than Tory in style.
@Shaun Parkinson Please explain to me where in my comment I said I was totally anti Margaret Thatcher? I did not say that. If you took time you would see I am 50/50 on her.
You're right about the poll tax being more of a Labour thing. It's absolutely socialist in principle which is why I cannot understand why she ever supported it. Up to that point her government had been all about cutting taxation and just as the economy starts really booming and unemployment falling rapidly she comes up with the most stupid tax increase ever thought of. It was so unlike her. I'm sure she was getting tired towards the end and letting idiots influence her. Theres very little I think I could argue with Thatcher about and win but it's very apparent that enforcing an equal taxation on everyone regardless of earning status based on the wasteful spending of local councils is a vote loser and extremely unThatcherite. The councils should have been targeted to cut waste and be allowed to use the money from council house sales rather asking the people to fund their proliferate spending.
Whatever you think of her politics, her intelligence and ability to communicate and debate properly is just so refreshing in this new age of name calling, vacuous, clowns in politics.
No. Her politics were rank. Yes, our current politicians are twats, but never fall into the trap of ranking them against that bag of sewage! Blair was the last proper P.M in the UK.
@@gavinpowers1217 Blair has the blood of hundreds of thousands on his hands and literally bankrupted the country. Your opinion is totally invalid if you think he was any good.
@@gavinpowers1217 Blair was the ultimate bag of sewage.
@@gavinpowers1217 You did exactly what the o.p. said discourse has sunk to: you've got not one substantive bit of criticism of Thatcher, you only have a vague notion of her impact and her ideology. You think you're against those notions that you only vaguely understand and you decide to vehemently oppose what you think she was about by engaging in dramatic (and not substantive) name calling: "rank", "bag of sewage".
You're simply attempting to keep people from a proper understanding of Thatcher by using intimidating language. You want people to remain as ignorant as you because misery does like company.
@@gavinpowers1217 mature
Lady Thatcher knew exactly what she was talking about always and she answered each question with knowledge and in full and wouldn't move on till the question had been answered clearly. Its so rare to find a politician today who seems to know anything and even the current pm struggles to know half of what he's asked and Mrs Thatcher would never have been caught saying "oh I don't know!"
She was a true lady and true politician and an absolute servant of the people for all of her political career and took her duty to heart!
God bless the Baroness Thatcher our greatest Prime Minister!
I imagine she's been voted as pm in heaven too!
Rest gently Maggie ❤
She was the blueprint for Tory swindlers and sleaze mongers.
For some reason we all hated her but now I see her very differently and wish we had someone of her strength,, intelligence and clarity of vision in politics today
Born in the mid 70s, growing up during the miner's strike, i always despised MT for no other reason than her portrayal in the media.
Like a previous comment, she is the only leader ive watched that can debate by ANSWERING questions directly, admitting when she makes a mistake. But is so knowledgeable, the facts and figures she's reeling off are truly unbelievable
Most brilliant woman ever.
Whether you like her politics or not, no one can deny that this woman had a charisma, a strength, a straightforwardness that today’s politicians can only dream of having.
Utterly formidable and erudite. My god we need her now
People with character, principles and moral fiber are not allowed in any nations govt. Thus our world is in complete chaos and failing.
This is an impressive interview from Mrs Thatcher. Hard to trip someone up when they know what they're taking about. Am in no way a die hard fan of all that the Thatcher governments did - far, far from it. But I have to say the intelligence, competence, sincerity, quick-wit, and even humour in Mrs Thatcher's delivery here are really remarkable - both compared with political leaders of today and political leaders of that time. Not to lay all that at the feet of our politicians, but I think the move to sound-bite culture and 24hr news cycle have dumbed things down dreadfully in the nearly forty years since this was recorded.
She's fantastic. Repeatable? Who knows? What a mind!!
It was a different era. When would Panorama now sit down with a P.M for an hour-long interview? She answers a lot of questions, very well. Yep, she was clued up on the situation. You're right. We live in a soundbite era. Blair was the last P.M who could handled this conversation without sounding cringemaking.
Fully agree Paul. The quality of exchange is far superior to today. Real, thoughtful, insightful, considered intelligible debate. Thatcher had clear principles. Even if one didn’t agree with her, one has to admire the conviction and elegance with which she defended them. It’s quite shocking to watch this side by side with political interviews in 2022 and see how far the standard of politicians and politics has fallen
I couldn’t agree more. Love her or hate her one must admire her work ethic and duty to serve the country. She genuinely viewed being PM as her calling and you can tell because she only slept 4 hours each night. This woman is so interesting and often misunderstood as a result of some of her political errors. But one cannot overlook how hard she fought for Britain.
No politician can get everything right for everyone, it's impossible to achieve and should not be demanded. But I can tell you that life for my hardworking decent working class council estate family improved IMMEASURABLY under her government - even though we didn't like to admit it at the time
This woman knew her stuff like no one (man or woman), I have EVER seen!, magnificent!.
It is not only an interview but also a lesson how to talk with media.
Mozammal Hoque and how media should talk!
Yeah...but what happened after that...bullies get their toes cocked as well...
Oh yes she was in command and commanded respect civility and professionalism
What an intelligent, clear-thinking woman
She is so positive. She makes you think I can do it if I put my mind to it.
Intelligent, clear-thinking and a conviction politician. What a shame that when you look at the detail in so much of what she say, one finds she was an egregious liar.
-says
The NO NO NO speech wasnt very intelligent was it....
@@MarthaMansbridge That's what ended her career ffs..
I just love her clear and precise statements, exactly to the point.
No hot air and waste of everybody’s time like with most politicians.
That's because she really understood what she was saying. God bless her.
The most courageous politician ever
Thank you so much. A remarkable politician.
Robin Day could never get the better of her, i give her that.
She is splendid. Everything is thought of and thought through. Every detail is considered and calculated.
Sixty Two! She looked beautiful!
are you suggesting she would have done better in a Beauty pageant ? 🤔
She was 59 here, 5 years as PM already, she would be 62 at the next election in '87.
Unflappable Margaret! I wish I had paid more attention to her when she was in office. But I was too busy at the discos. Thank goodness for these type of interviews.
She's my hero....
+Jerry May she lucky to have lived as long as she did,,
Maybe try having a reasonable, adult debate rather then throwing insults. But I suppose when Socialists try to have a conversation all they have in their arsenal is vile insults
@@liamgoff1371 That's 90% of the people on these videos who don't like Thatcher.
Damn she’s so smart. That interviewer couldn’t get one hit!
She had poise,and,of greater importance,she had intellect.
British people were lucky to have her as their PM.
Not really. Destroyed the blue collar working class.
@@depannist Explain.
@@liamb8644 coal and steel died in the 80’s or at least took significant hits. Those along with other industrial or manufacturing jobs. When the economy started to do well later in the decade, her govt didn’t do much to re-train all those that lost their jobs earlier and get them back into the workforce. Instead the bulk of the gains in the economy went to the corporate types. This thanks to her desire to shadow Reagan’s free market and privatization aspirations.
@@depannist Harold Wilson shut more mines.
Bro Britishers hated her.
Now I can see why she was compared to Elizabeth I. Hugely enjoyable interview, and she is an incredible speaker with tremendous energy, who makes it manage to sound as though she's not just merely rattling off facts or trying to fend off flies, but is knowledgeable and debates properly - whatever anyone might say about her, she definetely deserved that top position.
As someone's pointed out below, she starts off like a barrister, but the "real Margaret Thatcher" comes through towards the end!
Agree totally with this nice review of yours and of course charming and elegant. I Like the way she listens intentantly and shows courtesy in responding, it shows she has nothing to hide and is not evading points. Noone is talking over each other.
She actually started off life as a chemist so as a doctor I can see her clear thinking and rigorous scientific thinking ... analyses the facts, argues her point politely and confidently and lets the evidence do the talking. When she became PM she was more proud that she was the first scientist to become a PM more so than being the first female
It speaks incredibly of her character that she caught herself for forgetting to say "Sir" and seemed genuinely embarrassed and apologetic.
I thought that was so endearing. She was always overly deferential to people with high social rank.
@@jaredt8526 Ha! Robin Day was given a knighthood in 1981, ie under Thatcher's government. As an independent journalist, he had no business accepting it, since such awards are only notionally awarded by the Queen but in fact are decided entirely by the government that is in power. No wonder he looks awkward and just stares at his notes.
@@lucianopavarotti2843Did you think that up by yourself?
Really one of the most honest leaders of the 20th century
Sadly she surrounded herself by complete bastards in government. People like her advisers Charles Powell and Bernard Ingham who just told her what she wanted to hear and never told her the truth. Sycophants like John Gummer, Kenneth Baker and the scumbag Jeffrey Archer. She needed a better cabinet and advisers.
+John King hey u missed the name of Michael Heseltine,
Thought he was too obvious a name, you are right
+John King ya! back stabbed her badly, and i cried a lot while watching her last speech at Downing Street, with teary eyes!
She was a lot of thing but honest wasnt one of them...
One of her best ever interviews 🇬🇧👏
Back when panorama was good and we had world in action.
what clarity of thought. Amazing leader. Fearless and determined to drive her agenda
Yes she was spot on when she said she wanted a good prosperous coal industry. She really had the interests of the miners at heart, and their future. 2020 we import all of our coal.
Coal is increasingly irrelevant. Due to climate change we need to relay on other sources anyway.
how graceful she is!model for everyone!
Maggie Iron Lady. At the time she was the only MAN in Europe.
You are sadly mistaken- and a sexist- for assuming being a man means something positive.
It is simply a biological fact.
Margret Thatcher was far better than most men.
She was a devil
You want something said ask a man, you want something done ask a woman!
Ladies and gentlemen we give you Margret Thatcher.
She got it done.
One of my favorite quotes of this remarkable and smart woman.
Liz truss would like a word
Mrs Thatcher was the best Prime Minister RIP
+rajesh4cat she can fucking ROT IN HELL
I would disagree. She destroyed the economy in my part of the UK. She was a big fan of right wing torturing dictators like Pinochet.
She actually was
What about Clement Attlee.. .????
@@michaelahern6821 Sorry I was not born then.
She will be remembered long after many other prime ministers because she was brave and wasn’t deterred by her opponents. Things had to change . The State meddled too much in economic affairs, too many controls, too many parameters of thought. She opened up for people the faith in new opportunities, that they can create something new and different. It changed the country round. The transition was painful for many, especially in the industries like coal, and ineffective industries. She took tough decisions and saw them through.
A very good summary!
It was only tough for the miners because the NUM refused to look after the future interests of miners, to retrain for example, and only wanted to hold on to their own power. Shame on Scargill and those who blindly followed him.
It was only tough for the miners because the NUM refused to look after the future interests of miners, to retrain for example, and only wanted to hold on to their own power. Shame on Scargill and those who blindly followed him.
Very intelligent.
Notice how professional the interviewer is. His questions are sensible and he's not expressing his own opinions. Piers Morgan could learn a lot from this.
But he is outclassed by the interviewee.
Margaret Thatcher, hip hip hooray what an intelligent mind, look what Britain got today for prime minister the world have lost some intellectual minds.
She was a dictatorial B*tch.
Envious Fred in our world , a country is a business and it needs diplomats to represent it but it needs people like her to be the big boss
3 years on we have Boris Johnson
@@peterevans3504 ....margaret thatcher wasn't prime minister 3 years ago. Just how poor is your education?
Oh shut up u stupid man child my kids in hospital I have him on my mind
She knew Scargill would try to bring her down - she was too clever to be beaten by him
She was brought down by her own....her treatment of her ministers treating them like schoolboys and her utter arrogance saw to her demise ....Scargill didn't need to do anything in the end....
He was a mouse up against a ferocious lion.
Actually they did give in to the NUM in 1981 on a wage claim
@@briandelaney9710 - This is only partly true. Agreeing to the 1981 Pay Claim was all part of the strategy.
In the three to four years leading up to the 1984-85 Miners Strike, the government were engaged in a process of what was known as "Stock Coal". A huge amount of coal (many, many millions of tons) was mined and stored at both the power stations and at the coal mines themselves.
This massive Stock of coal was what allowed the coal-fired power stations to go on generating electricity during the very cold and dark months of the 1984-85 Winter.
NB As there was much less global-warming and climate-change back then, UK winters were much colder back then, when compared to now.
With this supply of stock coal, I read recently, when the strike began in March 1984, the government had two years of coal supplies at the power stations, plus around the amount at the coal mines as well.
NB Getting these extra many more millions of tons of coal from the coal mines to the power stations would have required intervention from the Army.
But even so, this meant that Arthur Scargill and the Miner's Union(s) were never going to win. They could not possibly have remained on-strike for two years.
Whatever opinions you have about the strike and the reasons for the strike, Mrs Thatcher had been planning this all-along. She set a trap for Arthur Scargill & the miners. Mr Scargill was not intelligent enough to see this and he walked straight into the trap.
The other issue is what happened around ten years previously. Ted Heath's democratically elected government was forced into the Three-Day-Week and then eventually brought down by the NUM.
Whatever you or I might say, allowing a trade union to bring down an elected government is NOT a good thing for Democracy in this country.
Furthermore, the 1984-85 Miners Strike was only five years after the 1978-79 "Winter of Discontent". Amongst the majority of the population, there was a feeling that enough-was-enough. The general population wanted the striking workers to either return to work or to get another job and allow some of the unemployed to takeover the jobs.
Everything Scargill warned would happen did happen. Thatcher lied.
The way she answered the questions was commendable. She was very calm and eloquent in answering. Why would they get rid of her as PM? A really wrong move, Britain 🤦♂️
Her cabinet felt she was electoral poison and had to go. She turned into a monarch type, addressing once to the camera that "we have become a grandmother". They felt she could not win a fourth term in office. Also, they were afraid she would not leave. One historian has said that great politicians are the ones who know when to leave, politicians who become consumed by power don't know how to leave and have to be dragged out of No.10.
@@johnking5174 also she was getting divisive with her party and her people in her third term as prime minister so she had to be ousted as pm already at that time to save her party
Poll tax
She didn't want to sign the Maastricht treaty. She was pro single market and free trade not political unification. Major and his cronies kicked her out because of it
She didn't want to sign the Maastricht treaty. She was pro single market and free trade not political unification. Major and his cronies kicked her out because of it
Formidable lady.Poor miners had no chance against her.
She totally owned the miners. Broke them completely.
@@peajasrae6154 to be fair the labour gov before broke mining and other industries, she had the mess to clear up and had to make tough decisions.
What a women, what a mother , what a lady , this woman should be used as role model not the clueless feminists that have no maners.
Everybody with a shred of reason and good common sense is a feminist. To claim all of those people didn’t have a clue only shows yourself to be highly prejudiced and ignorant.
She's quite extraordinary in that she knows EXACTLY what she's talking about, and won't waver. She was an amazing, extraordinary woman. This is a wildly entertaining interview. Robin Day is a great interviewer, but she pretty much wipes him right off the floor. It's hilarious!
40:30 “And I can cope with nine of them, so they ought to be able to stand one of me”
SNAP
My jaw is on the floor. The standard of politician today in comparison is frightening
Lee Kuan Yew, Maggie and Ronald Reagon changed economic policy and paradigms with a punch!
Yeah now you can invest the money you earn from investments into companies that don't exist and hope the stock market goes up while you work as a waiter serving investment bankers.
Worth ten of the politician's today
Even if you despise her politics, surely you can agree there is a lot to learn about confrontation done well.
"There's only one of me!"
The face she had was simply the best
Like she couldn’t believe he was resourcing to insults
Now I’m curious: who are the “they” they were talking about?
She's a very formidable woman, no doubt. ^^
I miss Panorama
A very clever lady, who put her heart and soul in her work for a better Great Britain. I have so much respect for the Baroness Thatcher. I felt bad for her when she apologised profusely for calling Sir Robin,"Robin". He could have at least showed the same respect and acknowledged her apology.
I'm not from Britian, why was it such an embarrassment? Its not like she walked into the men's restroom.
Maggie played an absolute blinder!
Dont you come those Robin Day tactics with me! - Baroness Thatcher
Her ability to clean the floor with her opponents was astonishing.
She was at the top of her game here, she even joked several times.
In the days leading up to this interview taking place, she would spent days with her advisers Michael Portillo, Charles Powell and Bernard Ingham, going over and over possible questions, and memorising key data and information.
She looks splendid in her beautiful English tailoring...
I like her conviction.
Pity she wasn't convicted for the lives she destroyed...
@@michaelahern6821 We get it, you don't like her. However, millions did and still do. But I do agree with you about Attlee, great PM and great man.
The best PM we have ever had, gave them miners what for good on her 😁👍
Wow, what a woman! Wonder woman!👸🏼
She answers the question as a barrister would.
She was a lawyer by profession.
Peter Bradshaw yes just like Tony Blair would
Both were barristers:)
+Peter Bradshaw i am trying to figure out who she is copying,,she seems false,
tuforu4 Either her advisers or her alter-ego.
She was the Daddy. Do as I say or else !!!!
That's what got her the boot in the end ...most of her cabinet were gutless cowards .. in the end they ganged up on her and dispatched her.
She was a wonderful sateswoman produced by the modern Britain.
A great PM good leader, she stood no nonsence from Unions, I think we now need her back to get UK back now, Who will be as good as MT...... Teresa May? who knows
Ha Ha.....
Teresa doubt it, but heres wishinga? I d
Theresa May never had the majority she had.. and ..didn't have the DUP to deal with...
Pure Steel....SMASH THE UNIONS
Sick em' Maggie
Can you imagine Joe Biden or Kamala Harris having this amount of detailed knowledge?. I. Don’t. Think. So.
Oh hell no, just like I can't with Boris Johnson. Perhaps Theresa May or Cameron but the EU got in their way.
Or....Mr. Trump?
And that's not a partisan jibe - I'm not American, and think R's and D's are all idiots. Name ONE contemporary politician in the West who even comes close to Thatcher's clarity, integrity, intelligence and belief in Democracy.
How have we fallen so far, so quickly?
And yet they are infinitely more knowledgeable and educated than Orange man.
No British politician like her since. No disputing her passion for the role and the country. All we have today are damp squibs.
Though I couldn’t stand Mrs Thatcher , my heroine Barbara Castle (who really should have been the first woman PM) had it right when she said Mrs T was the best man among the Tories
To tell a woman she is the best man is insulting and highly sexist.
Margaret Thatcher is unbelievable personality!!!
Most politicians make promises they break. She doesn't! Why were people moaning about her??
Ayman Haboubi
"Why were people moaning about her??"
Ignorance, and a toxic culture of political Leftism, that permeates the main culture, which the weak-minded absorb via osmosis. For those people, memetics then takes its natural course and the infection deepens, thus leading to a deep-rooted loathing for freedom, and such a lacking of confidence in one's self and their abilities, that they'd rather have the State and Government, regulate and operate their lives for them.
+NOISEDEPT I'll 2nd that.
I have no dislike of freedom but also value respect, justice and fairness, did that truthfully occur in our society during the 1980's and after, answer NO
“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams..
Oh Margaret how we need you now.
That tease about Robin Day’s age at the end was pure gold. Not so much humour in politics nowadays....
Love that intro and music "The Prime Minister"
🇬🇧 They don’t make women like this nomore. God Bless Her 🇬🇧
for real?
I was a child here in rural Canada during Thatcher's years - I grew up knowing very little about her, other than the name. I can't go back and fully understand the issues of the day, but I can appreciate the characters involved.
Mrs. Thatcher, her opponents and the interviewers are all well spoken, polite, passionate, unafraid to speak forcefully and with conviction. Compared to how things are today, it seems another world, unrelated to what we have now.
How has the West fallen so far, so quickly? We better get serious, quickly.
i like how she says "kewl" instead of coal.
Allot of politicians today are like muppets compared to her brilliant mind.
44:35 this woman invented carnaval, cause she is samba dancing on this guy’s face.
We could do with someone like her to lead the UK out of this terrible mess!. She would know how. RIP……..one of the finest leaders since Churchill.
Absolute nonsense. Both she and Churchill inflicted incalculable damage upon this country. Churchill especially.
This interview aired live on BBC One at 8.10pm - 9.00pm on Monday 9th April 1984.
She was absolutely formidable here. No Prime Minister has ever had such a command over the facts and the minutiae of detail as her. I really think a lot of people would have a very different opinion of her had she left voluntarily in either '88 or '89 as that's when mistakes started to be made and she was apparently more visibly tired.
She knew what was coming - the Maastricht Treaty....
She knew what was coming - the Maastricht Treaty....
She knew what was coming - the Maastricht Treaty....
She knew what was coming - the Maastricht Treaty....😅😢
Articulate, intelligent, woman, who pulls no punches. Great speaker.
She could teach Boris so much
So could the average dog, though, to be fair . . .
@@tonybates7870 Well it’s Boris anyone could tbh
Whether you agree with her politics or not she at least tries to answer the questions with knowledge facts and details. Compared with the egotistic, weak and devious dishonest politicians we have today she really is a credit!!
Comrades should take from this the confidence and strength necessary to defeat Thatcherism and capitalism as a whole.
Remarkable woman.
Shes right now
Eaten bread is soon forgotten. She was never appreciated when she worked hard. Look at the political climate today. Can we be thankful for today's politicians?
Liz truss Poundland Margaret Thatcher... Jeremy corbyn Poundland Tony Benn... Angela Rayner.... Poundland Barbara castle...
Now here's a politician that put her own nation first, not a shadow of a doubt. With a PM like her one can sleep on two ears, as they say in Holland.
It’s so weird to me that Climate Change was discussed already in the 70s, yet this video shows 80s Britain fighting to keep coal pits opened.
Vera Lynns - packet of skins. Maggie Thatchers - box of matches. Skin up!!!
👌
She would be horrified at Boris spending all this money now.
gd rest her sole
and her soul
a good wumman like this
with titanium in her blood
comes round only once
in a thousand years
like solomon or david
of the ole testament
bless that wuman of valour
and shut up thee vipers who dare
oppose such a testament
Superb interview...oh for such in our day...!
Spark of Light in XX Century. Last hope for UK...
Robin Day really floundered here, even having to resort to using the views of such 4th rate politicians as Ian Gilmour and Edward Heath to try and attack Mrs. Thatcher.
Toda vez que vejo esse vídeo, fico perplexa com a inteligência e a articulação verbal dessa mulher!
We.need her back
I have always been 50/50 on Mrs Thatcher. I agreed with her on the unions, which were unrestrained and corrupt to the bone, and held the country to ransom in 1974 and 1979. I agreed with her on choice, let the market decide, and less intervention by government. However I disagreed on her attitude to Ireland, the EU, the poll tax, especially the poll tax, which was more Labour than Tory in style.
@Scrumpy Joe Tell me what you liked about Mrs Thatcher's policies?
@Shaun Parkinson Please explain to me where in my comment I said I was totally anti Margaret Thatcher? I did not say that. If you took time you would see I am 50/50 on her.
You're right about the poll tax being more of a Labour thing. It's absolutely socialist in principle which is why I cannot understand why she ever supported it. Up to that point her government had been all about cutting taxation and just as the economy starts really booming and unemployment falling rapidly she comes up with the most stupid tax increase ever thought of. It was so unlike her.
I'm sure she was getting tired towards the end and letting idiots influence her.
Theres very little I think I could argue with Thatcher about and win but it's very apparent that enforcing an equal taxation on everyone regardless of earning status based on the wasteful spending of local councils is a vote loser and extremely unThatcherite.
The councils should have been targeted to cut waste and be allowed to use the money from council house sales rather asking the people to fund their proliferate spending.