When was Lionel Messi in his Prime?

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  • @theretroroute
    @theretroroute  11 місяців тому +851

    Is Messi the 🐐?

    • @VJ592
      @VJ592 11 місяців тому +35

      GOAT conditions.
      Greatest players across 2 generations as team mates.
      Messi only had 8-12 maximum tough games a season for his entire career.
      99% of Messi games were against teams with 10% of the Barca wage bill.
      99% of Messi games Barca had 75% possession.
      Ronaldinho, Eto , Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Neymar, Suarez,Ronaldinho , Henry. Name a player who played with better attackers and midfield as team mates the answer is NO one.

    • @rashidrazali9100
      @rashidrazali9100 11 місяців тому +126

      Yes.. absolutely

    • @SakiiB69
      @SakiiB69 11 місяців тому

      @@VJ592 just say ronaldo is the goat, we all know whose asshole you came out of to comment this rubbish

    • @trueS_aY
      @trueS_aY 11 місяців тому +204

      @@VJ592bros making up new criteria to make himself feel better💀💀, ur only going to annoy urself more with these gizmos as more and more players admit who is the best but anything that helps u sleep at night right?😉😂

    • @LBJ-s9n
      @LBJ-s9n 11 місяців тому +25

      ​@@VJ592what💀💀💀

  • @rockgamiasedes677
    @rockgamiasedes677 11 місяців тому +1993

    2007 -2011 : Dribbler messi
    2012 -2016: Scorer Messi
    2017 -2021: Lone wolf Play maker messi
    In all of his stages he has changed adapted to what was required of him. He was one of the very few who has been in prime for almost 15 years consistently.

    • @ru_BEN10
      @ru_BEN10 11 місяців тому +88

      Bro said lone wolf

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 11 місяців тому +26

      The Rocky Balboa of Argentina

    • @AntVaz7
      @AntVaz7 11 місяців тому +139

      @@ru_BEN10lone wolf is a stretch, but I get what the guy means, Messi did most things like connecting plays and being in the midfield AND up front all at the same time and by himself, so I get what he means

    • @TheOneAndOnlyDonut
      @TheOneAndOnlyDonut 11 місяців тому +88

      @@ru_BEN10basically means he has shit teammates and carrying hard

    • @laujack24
      @laujack24 11 місяців тому +72

      @@TheOneAndOnlyDonut basically, barcelona was not the same after 2015. all the core squad from 08 r aging or retire/left already by 2017. with neymar departure, its almost down two few old fart carrying. but eventually we all know its just messi. I'm pretty sure if you put 2017 to 2021 messi to the same barcelona squad he got in 2008 to 2012 he will win all the CL. its a shame when he was at his absolute peak in terms of experience and ability barcelona has past their peak. if u look at ronaldo career and messi career, they r like the mirror opposite of one another.

  • @schn11x
    @schn11x 11 місяців тому +1145

    Just the fact that Lionel Messi can be considered as the best striker, the best assistmaker, the best passer, the best dribbler, the best freekick taker, the best penalty shooter and the best playmaker of all time or at least can be in serious discussion at each category plus being overall at least world class for about 15 years in the most competitive sport in the world, proves what an outstanding sportsman he is and what an outstanding career we are talking about.

    • @brice6389
      @brice6389 10 місяців тому +143

      bros the best of all time clear of everyone but i have to be honest he's not the best penalty shooter lmao

    • @AnkaraMessi-p8g
      @AnkaraMessi-p8g 10 місяців тому +38

      ​@@brice6389agree lol, except for that I think I'd take Messi on any offensive side just coz he's that powerful in games, mans literally a one man club

    • @lGNITED
      @lGNITED 10 місяців тому +3

      Free kick?? What?

    • @Arunk491
      @Arunk491 10 місяців тому +12

      ​@@AnkaraMessi-p8gThere is no one man club. Messi did it because team.played that way. They covered up the space when Messi dropped deep and pressed more when Messi was weak at it in his final years ,, also was able to find Messi and give him ball. Gave Messi whole freedom to create and score.

    • @AnkaraMessi-p8g
      @AnkaraMessi-p8g 10 місяців тому +15

      @@Arunk491 that are just the basics of being a great footballer. there are many stars in la liga and UCL. the difference is that only messi can make the difference in the team, not even suarez could keep up. thats why i say that messi is a one man club

  • @Krato65
    @Krato65 11 місяців тому +893

    Messi's different prime
    2009-2012 : Goalscorer, dribbler, trophies, awards.
    2015 : Playmaker, complete player, record breaker.
    2019 : One man army, carrying the team, statistical anomaly.
    2021-2022 : Ultimate comeback, fulfilling the dream and ending the prophecy.

    • @anesumcdonald8548
      @anesumcdonald8548 11 місяців тому +11

      true 100%

    • @Messidinho-g8u
      @Messidinho-g8u 10 місяців тому +6

      @@anesumcdonald8548 all of them had been one of the other at one point

    • @dieauferstehung
      @dieauferstehung 10 місяців тому +12

      he became the GOAT in 2022. proved everyone wrong

    • @flash0367
      @flash0367 10 місяців тому

      Lol now scoring 5 penalties in a 8 game tournament is considered ultimate comeback

    • @Krato65
      @Krato65 10 місяців тому +37

      @@flash0367 In that same tournament someone scored 0 goals in the knockouts. And publicly announced he would retire if he had won that 8 game. 🤣 And now crying because someone else won that 8 game. 🌝
      PAIN.

  • @ctr1502
    @ctr1502 11 місяців тому +321

    That assist against Croatia where he totally skinned Gvardiol - a man who Is young, quick, tall, strong, and Europe's hottest defending talent... that was sensational. When you think of messi, the 2022 world cup was the full evolution of messi's attacking abilities. From winger, to striker, to false 9, to playmaker, midfielder, leader.
    I don't think anyone will replicate him - his play style, his numbers, his trophies. If we ever do, I suspect I won't be around to see it.

    • @JD-hh2qb
      @JD-hh2qb 9 місяців тому +16

      No one will never be around to see something that like Messi again. Truly Poetry in Motion

    • @stephenwa7417
      @stephenwa7417 5 місяців тому

      Lamine yamal ​@@JD-hh2qb

  • @frenkie1281
    @frenkie1281 11 місяців тому +528

    18/19 season was the most complete version of Messi

    • @LBJ-s9n
      @LBJ-s9n 11 місяців тому +100

      Definitely, and to add to that he almost singlehandedly carried barca to a treble

    • @stopka969
      @stopka969 11 місяців тому +51

      totally agree man, that season was the greatest carry job ever

    • @Vikrxntt
      @Vikrxntt 11 місяців тому +76

      The fact that messi was playing very deep basically as deep playmaker and still managed to win pichici award and golden boot that season. And to mention he scored most freekicks that season.

    • @argenisjrg
      @argenisjrg 11 місяців тому +50

      ​@@Vikrxntt It's still painful how most of his teammates (specially Dembélé) failed him at Anfield. It would have been a more epic UCL campaign than any of Ronaldo's.

    • @Vikrxntt
      @Vikrxntt 11 місяців тому +21

      @@argenisjrg tbh Barca could have still lost even if dembele finished that chance. Because you really think the team who literally scored 4 against them can't score one more? Yeah btw if Barca won UCL that season that would have been perfect

  • @valentijnbarendse9044
    @valentijnbarendse9044 10 місяців тому +241

    The fact that 2013 he was even better than 2012 and wouldve again broken the goal record if he didnt get injured

    • @vb2388
      @vb2388 9 місяців тому +42

      46 goals in 32 Laliga games…absurd

    • @FrostByte_06
      @FrostByte_06 7 місяців тому

      ​@@vb238812 goals in 4 games...

    • @jorgeherrera1074
      @jorgeherrera1074 5 місяців тому +7

      Would’ve had 9 Balon D’or

  • @rhino_2832
    @rhino_2832 11 місяців тому +489

    2009: greatest trophy winner
    2010: greatest youngster
    2011: greatest UCL performance
    2012: greatest goalscorer
    2015: greatest playmaker
    2019: greatest one-man army
    2021: greatest assister
    2023: greatest in history

    • @LBJ-s9n
      @LBJ-s9n 11 місяців тому +23

      Hid 11/12 campaign was the best individual season of all time in terms of goals, assists and g+a, he had the most goals in a season(73) the most assists in a season(31) and the most goal contributions in a single season season(104)💀💀 messi isn't normal

    • @atomaticom1821
      @atomaticom1821 11 місяців тому +1

      Messi literally won the league in 2010. What do you mean with that?

    • @rhino_2832
      @rhino_2832 11 місяців тому

      @@atomaticom1821 whoops

    • @daradoesntcare6803
      @daradoesntcare6803 11 місяців тому +4

      he wasnr a youngster in 2010 he was bloody 23

    • @pj1893
      @pj1893 11 місяців тому +5

      As one who watched his entire career. I'd say your description is Perfect!

  • @Jeff_2x
    @Jeff_2x 11 місяців тому +163

    I still find it UNREAL that Messi somehow had 30 assists with 73 goals in 2011-12 and that STILL isn’t even considered his playmaking PEAK!

    • @delta2370
      @delta2370 10 місяців тому +18

      Actually it was 82 goals and 34 assists. National team goals count. 116 G+A in one season is actually mental.

    • @vb2388
      @vb2388 9 місяців тому +12

      From Feb 2012 to Feb 2013…He actually scored 100 goals..

    • @Hymn_
      @Hymn_ 7 місяців тому +1

      @@jaberahmed8449 man's straight up an alien holy shit. whole decade+ of scoring 2 digit goals and assists

    • @Maxsss214
      @Maxsss214 6 місяців тому

      @@Hymn_bro has 2 digit goal and assist since his 3rd year playing 19 year old)
      Bro even has a goal contribution of 3 digit in a year

  • @chanendlerbong
    @chanendlerbong 11 місяців тому +531

    Two primes of Messi for me
    2010-2013 - scoring prime
    2015-2019 - complete prime

    • @McCheetos
      @McCheetos 11 місяців тому +27

      2022 is the leader prime.

    • @CDmusic10
      @CDmusic10 11 місяців тому +16

      ​@McCheetos Yep. And 2023 is his marketing prime (going to the United States. I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing) lol.

    • @VictorDurand-me5yu
      @VictorDurand-me5yu 11 місяців тому +2

      his prime is from 2008 to 2016 Id say

    • @ryanergo754
      @ryanergo754 11 місяців тому +5

      ​​@VictorDurand-me5yu He was ridiculous in both 2018 and 2019 as well. Specially 2019. If Barcelona didn't become Tottenham two years straight in the CL away 2nd leg, I am sure those two years would have been considered the best in his career.

    • @4LT3RN4TU
      @4LT3RN4TU 11 місяців тому

      @@CDmusic10I think it's good because many Americans are starting to have interest in football ⚽

  • @grinchoi1
    @grinchoi1 11 місяців тому +87

    this guy is soooo good he only competes of only different versions of himself. The greatest player ive ever seen by far

  • @polpuig198
    @polpuig198 11 місяців тому +152

    Unpopular opinion Messi peaked in 2018-19. I cannot stretch enough how much we were carried by two men alone, Messi and Ter Stegen. We weren't better, we hoped Messi did magic, and he did, That's why the Anfield counterback, the team was self destroying and under a bit of pressure crumbled, how we went 3 up in the first leg? Lionel Andrés Messi.

    • @argenisjrg
      @argenisjrg 11 місяців тому +14

      Exactly. If Dembélé had scored at Camp Nou from a pass that Messi gave him, the comeback at Anfield probably would have never happened.

    • @polpuig198
      @polpuig198 11 місяців тому +10

      @@argenisjrg No, my point is exactly the opposite, The team was only Messi, But he can't carry the whole team, they would have scored 4 anyways and went to extra time were we would lose anyway, can't know for sure since I'm no visionary

    • @argenisjrg
      @argenisjrg 11 місяців тому +1

      @@polpuig198 I'm not so sure. The letdown for losing 4-0 at the first leg would have been way bigger than 3-0. But we agree that Messi and Ter Stegen were pretty much the whole team.

    • @dariogutierrez6716
      @dariogutierrez6716 11 місяців тому +3

      Substituting Vidal was sheer insanity in that away leg.

    • @Gokulra-gq5qj
      @Gokulra-gq5qj 10 місяців тому +2

      ur forgetting ter stegen he was just as good as messi, messi's overall prime was 2018/19 but physically his prime was in 2015 in fact in my opinion 2015 was his best 2019 may have looked like prime because other players(excluding ter stegen and possibly vidal to some extent), others looked pathetic, but if u've followed u would clearly his 2015 year was far better he could do sprints, pressed heavily, started playmaking, scored insane amount of goals, broke records too.
      In the first leg too u see it was liverpool who dominated thanks to messi, ter stegen and liverpools sqaundered chances barca won.

  • @roxey7845
    @roxey7845 11 місяців тому +208

    For me it's the 2018/2019 season when he almost single handedly carried a bad barca team to winning the champions league i will never forget this season

    • @Arunk491
      @Arunk491 10 місяців тому

      I dont think Barca needed Messi to amwin against Lyon or United. But Liverpool...if course. The first match. But then they got destroyed.

    • @tcmcity51
      @tcmcity51 10 місяців тому

      @@Arunk491worst take ever look at Barca after Messi straight to Europa league and still couldn’t win

    • @rishabhsrikar9514
      @rishabhsrikar9514 10 місяців тому +47

      ​@@Arunk491 Having followed Barca very closely for the past decade and a half, no. That team had a waning Suarez, Alba, Rakitic, and Pique all of whom looked extremely vulnerable. Coutinho was a disaster. It was Ter stegen and Busquets who helped Messi take Barca to those levels. From an attacking POV he was Barca.
      To put things in context, we had Kevin Prince Boateng as our attacking backup. Honest to god, Messi was using Vidal as a wooden board to ping one twos off 😅

    • @BdeBoyo
      @BdeBoyo 8 місяців тому +5

      @@rishabhsrikar9514 Exactly, this season he was godlike, playing at his own pace, involving everyone. Tied free kicks records in a season (8), 50+ goals +20 assists and now as the assumed leader of Barcelona.
      The bad ending with Liverpool makes the things forgotten a bit, but w/e he's the GOAT for everyone now.

    • @number1chesschampionsket683
      @number1chesschampionsket683 7 місяців тому

      ​@@Arunk491that Liverpool loss is also massively due to dembele not being able to score a free shot

  • @DLFitness1
    @DLFitness1 11 місяців тому +170

    Never has there been a player to almost put tears in my eyes. Messi will never be replicated.

  • @TheLightningPete
    @TheLightningPete 11 місяців тому +45

    You need to understand that, as an argentinian, Messi is really the argentinian you can be proud of, in and off the field, no scandals, no bad shade. Truly the goat 🐐

  • @richarddehoop2824
    @richarddehoop2824 11 місяців тому +51

    Messi around 2009-2011 was just magical. How fast he could change direction while sprinting at full speed, all of the micro touches during his runs. No-one stood a chance, never seen anything since.

    • @Arunk491
      @Arunk491 10 місяців тому +2

      He became best in world in March , April time 10. Before that he was great but was losing ball too. He hit his peak in 10 to 13. An injured 14 then 15 was great.16-19 too hir involvement in attack was superb.

  • @mohdnazri7126
    @mohdnazri7126 11 місяців тому +44

    1. young messi (the dribbler)
    2. false 9 messi (the playmaker)
    3. 91 goals messi (the goalscorer)
    4. MSN messi (all 3 above in 1)
    5. 18-19 messi (the complete/perfect version)
    6. world cup messi (the old but wiser)

  • @Jeff_2x
    @Jeff_2x 11 місяців тому +170

    The thing with Messi you TRULY don’t know. He was a goalscoring machine with 73 goals and 30 assists in 2011-12. More well rounded with 58 goals and 31 assists in the 2014-15 season and you have his carry job with 51 goals and 22 assists in 2018-19. Truly the GOAT

    • @olartio2185
      @olartio2185 11 місяців тому

      Everyone knows he was in his prime during blatter years. He is a good BOY.

    • @Dinozor3
      @Dinozor3 11 місяців тому +2

      @@olartio2185 yes penaldo was a good boy and in his prime during refs prime days

    • @olartio2185
      @olartio2185 11 місяців тому

      @@Dinozor3 no one takes the "good BOY" slave name from messi

    • @midget420
      @midget420 10 місяців тому +3

      @@olartio2185 go cry somewhere else pendu fan. Penaldo is the only player that won a ballon dor without winning a single trophy

    • @olartio2185
      @olartio2185 10 місяців тому

      @midget420 messi won it after a degenerated loss 2 - 8 . And now he got humiliated again with miami in last place and 6 - 0 loss . Messi was blatters little pet

  • @MuhammadAlFatihFatehmessi
    @MuhammadAlFatihFatehmessi 10 місяців тому +30

    2022: the man on the mission
    2019: one man army
    2015: the treble winner
    2009-2012: goal top scorer

  • @BluesFanUK_
    @BluesFanUK_ 11 місяців тому +86

    He hit god mode soon after Xavi and Iniesta left - i've never seen a Club as big as Barcelona be so reliant on one individual. He had better seasons as a dribbler or goalscorer in previous years, but 2017-2021 he was about as complete as an attacking player can get, and he was doing it in a very ordinary Barcelona team - the sides who capitulated against Roma and Liverpool were fucking woeful.

    • @Arunk491
      @Arunk491 10 місяців тому +8

      There was never ordinary Barca team. They had great chemistry together. The biggest blunder Barca did was bringing players that do role similar to Messi like Griezman. Griezman is outstanding player but how will he work with Messi. Or you need a Pep Guardiola to find it.

    • @manan612
      @manan612 8 місяців тому +3

      ⁠@@Arunk491They were over reliant on Messi after Neymar left.
      Barcelona’s last great team was 15-16.
      After that, they kept declining & there’s no wonder why. They replaced Neymar with Dembele, Xavi & Iniesta with players like Artur, Vidal, Coutinho & never found a replacement for Dani Alves. Suarez was also a disappointment in the UCL after 2016.

    • @Arunk491
      @Arunk491 8 місяців тому

      @@manan612 I think team was great in la liga until 18,, 19 we can't analyse because of weakest la liga ( RM and ATM were not impressive). The UCL humiliations started posted 17. And like what I said they bought players similar playstyle of Messi. Coutinho and Griezman. Dembele always was injured.

    • @manan612
      @manan612 8 місяців тому +4

      @@Arunk491 From 17-18 to 19-20 in the UCL, they only won if Messi had a phenomenal performance.
      Messi dragged them through vs Chelsea in 2018, put on a show vs Lyon, United & Liverpool (1st Leg) & produced a piece of magic vs Napoli in 2020.
      During this time, if Messi’s game fell from a 5 star performance to just a good game, Barcelona were a shambles. I’ve never seen anything like it.

    • @Arunk491
      @Arunk491 8 місяців тому

      @@manan612 Not bringing that. Messi was teams chief playmaker and scorer in 15. Then he got injured and left 9 games. Barca won all those games including a Real 4-0. So one player is scoring doesn't mean they will lose without him. Without Messi another strategy. See in 19 without Messi Barca beat Real 5-1

  • @Shubham10SrP
    @Shubham10SrP 10 місяців тому +15

    2011 version of messi was absolutely prime . No player can take on teams like he did almost every single game by himself, box to box runs without a break and the ball glued to his foot

    • @zeeo3147
      @zeeo3147 4 місяці тому

      Exactly Messi was magical in 2011

  • @bughinbughin8774
    @bughinbughin8774 11 місяців тому +44

    I dont care what anyone says no one will ever top him. He could do absolutely anything he wanted whenever he wanted by himself there are robots like ronaldo but then their is a genius like messi

    • @figo007tv
      @figo007tv 11 місяців тому

      Top him? Pause yo

    • @LucinaMeow
      @LucinaMeow 11 місяців тому

      ​@@figo007tv🤨

  • @m3ga975
    @m3ga975 11 місяців тому +88

    The most complete player I have ever seen the GOAT of football 🐐

    • @BigFish83
      @BigFish83 11 місяців тому +14

      ​@@User-7847Ronaldo fan in disguise

    • @_Cyxnide
      @_Cyxnide 11 місяців тому +9

      @@User-7847 what was he like when you "saw" him play?

    • @qwertyzxccvk
      @qwertyzxccvk 11 місяців тому +9

      ​@@_CyxnideRonaldo fans😂😂 ronaldo not even top 5

    • @LBJ-s9n
      @LBJ-s9n 11 місяців тому

      ​@@qwertyzxccvk you're stretching it💀

    • @LBJ-s9n
      @LBJ-s9n 11 місяців тому

      ​@@User-7847you act like you've seen him play😂

  • @MrK.A
    @MrK.A 11 місяців тому +21

    My favourite player. One of the happiest moments of my life was seeing him win the world cup.

  • @thatguy23-21
    @thatguy23-21 11 місяців тому +17

    No one can even come close to Messi 🐐 No one can repeat the things he has done 🐐 once in a lifetime player 🐐

  • @Mono_303
    @Mono_303 10 місяців тому +17

    Whatever you needed from Messi, being goals, assists, playmaking, or everything all at once he can do.

  • @chanendlerbong
    @chanendlerbong 11 місяців тому +93

    2008-2016 - Beardless Messi
    2016-2021 - Beard Messi
    2021- - Beardless/Beard Messi

    • @JohnJo-qn7wq
      @JohnJo-qn7wq 7 місяців тому

      Whats Ronaldo one cuz i want to compare?

  • @JaxXgotGame
    @JaxXgotGame 11 місяців тому +16

    2010-2011 season is prime Messi, where he had a balanced season with an unbelievable individual season along with a league and Champions league title.

  • @AA2000_
    @AA2000_ 11 місяців тому +57

    Messi is always in his prime

  • @abhei1226
    @abhei1226 11 місяців тому +9

    This video is so emotional 😭 we fans seriously missed him 😭… I want him to end his career in Barca 🫶❤️

  • @chisomchibuzo1204
    @chisomchibuzo1204 11 місяців тому +23

    Real ones know the peak of his powers was between 09- 12 he may have gotten more intelligent later on, but his footballing ability peaked then with the help of his good teammates and the 4 ballondors in a row reflect that

    • @LBJ-s9n
      @LBJ-s9n 2 місяці тому

      Nah 14/15 was his peak

  • @BSG1892
    @BSG1892 11 місяців тому +19

    2009-13 he was unplayable. Still unbelievable after this (I know he won another treble with MSN later) but during that 4 year stretch there was Lionel Messi & then every other peasant in football. Nothing could stop him. Yes, Inter won the UCL in 2010 but that’s because Barca messed with a winning formula bringing in Ibra who didn’t fit at all and giving Inter Eto. There’s every chance he could have won 3 UCLs in a row during that 4 year period

    • @Arunk491
      @Arunk491 10 місяців тому +2

      Xavi was more important than Messi until 10. It was such a legendary team...Messi had the numbers ..Xavi controlled the whole game

    • @HyakuJuu01300
      @HyakuJuu01300 6 місяців тому

      Also Iniesta was missing in Inter matches due to injury.

  • @AyoMophizzle
    @AyoMophizzle 11 місяців тому +9

    one of the best documentaries out there... masterpiece

  • @jerrymcallister
    @jerrymcallister 10 місяців тому +11

    He was never in his prime. He is just flatline greatness

  • @alexandrospaspardanis3072
    @alexandrospaspardanis3072 9 місяців тому +5

    Every time I rewatch this the more I appreciate its attention to detail. The angles and editing of the clip selection, the phrasing in the narration, the music selection, even the exact moment when the new track kicks in, everything is simply masterfully done. A Messi documentary fitting to this man’s brilliance.

  • @ModernFootball866
    @ModernFootball866 11 місяців тому +51

    *Messi from the 11/12 season until 13.01.2013:*
    *vs top 3 league teams:*
    6 games | 11 g/a | 1,83 g/a p90
    Without penalties:11 g/a | 1,83 g/a p90
    4,83 successful dribbles p90
    + 1 non-opta assist
    *vs top 4 league teams:*
    9 games | 19 g/a | 2,11 g/a p90
    Without penalties:17 g/a | 1,89 g/a p90
    4,33 successful dribbles p90
    + 1 non-opta assist
    *vs top 5 league teams:*
    12 games | 24 g/a | 2,00 g/a p90
    Without penalties:22 g/a | 1,83g/a p90
    4,92 successful dribbles p90
    + 2 non-opta assists
    *vs top 6 league teams:*
    15 games | 31 g/a | 2,07 g/a p90
    Without penalties:28 g/a | 1,87g/a p90
    5,00 successful dribbles p90
    + 2 non-opta assists
    *vs top 7 league teams:*
    18 games | 38 g/a | 2,11 g/a p90
    Without penalties:35 g/a | 1,94 g/a p90
    4,94 successful dribbles p90
    + 2 non-opta assists
    *vs top 8 league teams:*
    21 games | 45 g/a | 2,14 g/a p90
    Without penalties:41 g/a | 1,95 g/a p90
    5,00 successful dribbles p90
    + 3 non-opta assists
    *Finals:*
    7 games | 12 g/a | 1,71 g/a p90
    Without penalties:11 g/a | 1,57 g/a p90
    *UCL group:*
    10,31 games | 17 g/a | 1,65 g/a p90
    Without penalties: 15 g/a | 1,45 g/a p90
    2,81 successful dribbles p90
    + 1 non-opta assist
    *UCL knockouts:*
    6 games | 10 g/a | 1,67 g/a p90
    Without penalties: 8 g/a | 1,33 g/a p90
    4,00 successful dribbles p90
    + 1 non-opta assist
    *vs top 5 nations:*
    2 games | 4 g/a | 2,00 g/a p90
    Without penalties: 4 g/a | 2,00 g/a p90
    *vs top 10 nations:*
    3 games | 6 g/a | 2,00 g/a p90
    Without penalties: 6 g/a | 2,00 g/a p90
    *vs top 20 nations:*
    6 games | 12 g/a | 2,00 g/a p90
    Without penalties:11 g/a | 1,83 g/a p90
    *vs top 30 nations:*
    8 games | 14 g/a | 1,75 g/a p90
    Without penalties:13 g/a | 1,63 g/a p90
    *El Clasicos:*
    9 games | 12 g/a | 1,33 g/a p90
    Without penalties:11 g/a | 1,22 g/a p90
    5,33 successful dribbles p90 (league)
    *All these games combined:*
    53,31 games | 97 g/a | 1,82 g/a p90
    Without penalties:87 g/a | 1,63 g/a p90

  • @thesavage5799
    @thesavage5799 10 місяців тому +10

    2010/11-2011/12 absolute peak

  • @sachithrahasaral7239
    @sachithrahasaral7239 11 місяців тому +11

    Those messi touches on the football are somthing else 🤤

  • @Apersonfarfaraway
    @Apersonfarfaraway 10 місяців тому +7

    2008-09: Most trophies.
    2011-12: Goalscoring and statistical peak.
    2018-19: Most complete.
    2014-15: Best season overall.

  • @dinosutra
    @dinosutra 10 місяців тому +11

    Messi has different Primes:
    2008-2015: Club Prime
    2016-2020: Lone Warrior Prime
    2021-Present: International Prime
    Personally I Love "Lone Warrior Prime" because during that time he was carrying Barcelona alone like a one man army.

  • @danasaeed9018
    @danasaeed9018 10 місяців тому +7

    When Leo Messi Was 35 Years Old And Won The World Cup, And Won The Best Player Of That World Cup, THAT IS LEO'S MESSI PRIME!!!!
    He Was, IS And ALWAYS IN HIS PRIME.

  • @jillvalentinedontcryformea8966
    @jillvalentinedontcryformea8966 11 місяців тому +21

    Every version of Messi is his prime

  • @GTA_inc
    @GTA_inc 10 місяців тому +8

    Wow we kids really missed this?🥺 I never knew he was this gooooood!!!!!!!

  • @roshaningle5968
    @roshaningle5968 11 місяців тому +10

    He is always in his prime ❤

  • @nxt1990
    @nxt1990 11 місяців тому +5

    Messi was in his prime his whole life. He’s just the goat from birth. Guaranteed he’s not human. Impossible.

  • @leanth9781
    @leanth9781 10 місяців тому +6

    Depends on how we see it, there are so many versions of Messi. I think from 2009 to 2013 he was the scariest for defenders, able to dribble through a whole team, deadly in front of goal, quick and literally unstoppable. Physically speaking, he was at his prime during that time (scored plenty of clutch goals at club level as well). From 2014 to 2019, feels like his most complete version. His passing became god tier, great playmaking (was already class before though) while still able to terrorize defenders with his dribbling and scoring plenty of great goals (freekicks became true weapons). For me, older Messi since 2019 is my favorite because his football brain entirely covered for his physical decline. His WC Final was ridiculous, he almost did everything perfectly every time he had the ball. He reached a level of maturity in terms of reading the game and handling pressure which, coupled with his footballing abilities, created a perfect mix. May not be the best version since his dribbling and finishing kinda fell off compared to 2015 or 2011, but this version was the most confident version of him, which enabled him to win the WC.

  • @NE0_Messi
    @NE0_Messi 11 місяців тому +18

    Wow, what a great video! I like how you divided his primes into separate categories. Maybe you could add one more: "The INTERNATIONAL Prime"
    In the 2020s, his best football may have been behind him, but Messi was certainly at his most decisive for La Albiceleste, bossing the Copa America, Finalissima, and of course the World Cup. Doing just enough from each of his previous primes proved to be the perfect formula for Argentine glory, and he finally attained immortality in the eyes of his countrymen, something that was long overdue for someone who many had already dubbed the GOAT! 🐐

    • @ochoymedio78
      @ochoymedio78 11 місяців тому +1

      Exactly. Most of people forget that, nevertheless he could score +50 or assist +20 at Barcelona, at Argentina, the pressure would overpower him. From 2019 on, specially in 2021 and 2022 he became inmortal, he became the best at the best tournaments, where it matters most, for your country, for glory.

    • @Arunk491
      @Arunk491 10 місяців тому

      His international career is overrated tbh. Three teams, Brazil , Uruguay, Chile...that are competitive Messi can't do it against them. Even Copa 21 final he was worst player in that match. WC 22 is an exception but softpens ...,( May be modern rules)

    • @ochoymedio78
      @ochoymedio78 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Arunk491 you clearly didn't see the matches, so I urge you to watch football before you write nonsense. Against Chile and Uruguay he scored the goal and provided the assist for those matches, and was the unconditional leader...you didn't see shit. 5 goals and 5 assist in Copa America 21,...my god the ignorance.
      And worst player in the final? The amount of hate you have towards Messi is only rivaled by your ignorance of the game and lack of matches watched. If you say that is because you CLEARLY didn't see that final. Period.

    • @Arunk491
      @Arunk491 10 місяців тому

      @@ochoymedio78 Lol...Final 🤣🤣🤣...Don't make me laugh kidoo...not even a good move he did in that final. And wasted a golden chance. Are u arguing that he did well in that final ?? Messi always dissapears when he play against top teams in international Copa tournaments and almost everytime b4 WC 22. It's not a debate.

    • @ochoymedio78
      @ochoymedio78 10 місяців тому

      @@Arunk491 again, you only watched the highlights, because your argument is that he missed one chance in the final is the only thing you got. You said he didn't do nothing against Uruguay (assist in the 1-0) and CHile (goal in the 1-1) and in the Copa America 21 in general: named man of the tournament with 4 goals and 5 assists. Was involved in EVERY argentine goal...but, according to you, who haven't seen any 90 minute match of that copa, he wasn't relevant.... ahahahah

  • @SightedRain40
    @SightedRain40 10 місяців тому +9

    This video is a masterpiece. 👏 the little magician has brought me so much joy 🥹

  • @fredshortzz
    @fredshortzz 7 місяців тому +2

    Messi thank you for making love football and see it a different way. Thank you again 🐐👑

  • @cooglehoogle844
    @cooglehoogle844 11 місяців тому +16

    2012 Messi was INSANE

  • @diegooregon4481
    @diegooregon4481 11 місяців тому +23

    My favorite prime will always be 2008-15 really showed how great of a player he was. A player who had everything. Dribble, Pace , and most importantly a Intense mentality to win.

  • @DarthwRath
    @DarthwRath 10 місяців тому +3

    He is The God of Football. Light-years ahead of everyone else and we just will never see another genius like him.

  • @nanettecormier8513
    @nanettecormier8513 9 місяців тому +2

    He has always been a joy to watch. This is a beautiful video! Thank you!!!

  • @ZtkW816
    @ZtkW816 11 місяців тому +145

    Messi in 10/11, 11/12, 12/13, 14/15 and 18/19 was a better player than CR7 in his best season - that's how good Messi was in his prime

    • @readplato
      @readplato 11 місяців тому +21

      You forgot 08/09, 09/10 and 16/17.

    • @bozoslayer5858
      @bozoslayer5858 11 місяців тому +8

      @@readplatoMessi was not better in 16/17. Cristiano won everything there as possible to win and was also better individually

    • @VREAPER-p8n
      @VREAPER-p8n 11 місяців тому

      @@bozoslayer5858he didn’t say Messi is better than cr7 in that season..

    • @jonnybarron1518
      @jonnybarron1518 11 місяців тому +14

      @bozoslayer5858 You didn’t understand what he said. He said if we take Ronaldo best season (maybe 07/08, or 14/15 for example) Messi has multiple season that are above it. Like 10/11, 11/12, 12/13, 14/15 and 18/19.

    • @bozoslayer5858
      @bozoslayer5858 11 місяців тому +1

      @@jonnybarron1518 I’ll agree with 11/12 but every other Messi season is not better than 07/08 Cristiano. He is so underrated that year like he won the prem and the double with a team that cost half the amount of prime Barca. In the premier league as well which is the hardest league. I will admit that Messi in 11/12 was better tho.

  • @aminao0404
    @aminao0404 8 місяців тому +1

    i grew up on messi in barcelona and watching him win the world cup was so amazing, little me was waiting for that for so long

  • @nwodeemmanuel8627
    @nwodeemmanuel8627 10 місяців тому +4

    This is the most relishing clip I've watched in a long time 😊. I played back so many times to relisten, rewatch and re-enjoy a lot of moments. Thank you so much for this compilation❤.

  • @stevelouis2203
    @stevelouis2203 10 місяців тому +2

    One of the best dcumnentaries and break down of messi that I've ever seen, Great Video!!

  • @danhoppy5517
    @danhoppy5517 11 місяців тому +11

    Couldn't help but have a smile on my face watching this. I don't think there is much debate about who is the greatest any more. Even Maradona, who was phenomenal at his peak, didn't have the longevity.

    • @Arunk491
      @Arunk491 10 місяців тому

      Can Messi do what Diego did with Napoli or Argentina in that difficult time. I dont think in 10 lives he can't. Messi is finest this generation but all time. Nope.

    • @cynthiandlovu9670
      @cynthiandlovu9670 9 місяців тому

      @@Arunk491 the problem is you only look at it from Maradona's angle if i ask you can Maradona do it in Messi's era where everything is improved, be it fitness of players, tactics, no more part timers playing football, better opponents in general and so forth.

    • @Arunk491
      @Arunk491 9 місяців тому

      @@cynthiandlovu9670 Yess. But Maradona is not playing with 90s boot,90s training,90s FOUL RULE in modern era. Maradona would be getting all these with improved facility. The way to look is difficulty level. Maradona did that when brutally fouled every 5 minutes. We have to consider that. And there was no weapon in attack against brutal fouls which recieve less punishment. In modern both defense and offense improved. Maradona without fouls in modern era in 80s training would be one of best. And if he get modern training, facility nutrition he would be head and shoulders above rest

    • @cynthiandlovu9670
      @cynthiandlovu9670 9 місяців тому

      @@Arunk491 but he will be now playing against the best defenders as compared to part timers. Don't only look from his side. for example Its easy to say a boxer is good when boxing against non technically gifted boxers up until they find their match. I have never heard any defender from the Maradona era being praised as compared to today. hope you understand from my point of view.

    • @Arunk491
      @Arunk491 9 місяців тому

      @@cynthiandlovu9670 Lol...Are u serious?? 80s and 90s saw the greatest defenders the world has ever seen. Modern footballers has not even half skill level of Scirea, Baresi or Matheus or no one dangerous and brutal as Gentile or Andoni.Your knowledge is so poor in old football. The thing that is developed now is tactics and against that attacking tactics too became better. For an attacker it's easiest era and it's not an argument. Also the billion dollar teams vs average team scenario didn't exist that time.

  • @maxphilly
    @maxphilly 11 місяців тому +9

    Prime prime is from 2008-2015 longest standing prime record of all time. 2008 mega dribbler speed demon, 2009 he put on muscle gain strength and power still a super dribbler now with great playmaking skills and power shots. 2010 a god on the pitch. 2011 an even greater god with more refined skills in every aspect. 2012 the greatest goal scoring ability I've ever seen even translated to stats. 13/14 a one man army while perfecting his playmaker capacity. 2015 another monster version of Messi and now perfected playmaking plus many years of experience while still being somewhat young. There's individual years or season after this but his peak continuity was 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015. The only player to have so many peak years in a row and even having the ability to shift to certain preferences like speedster or goal scorer dribbler and play maker he did whatever he wanted a unique human in all of human history.

  • @LNLBD
    @LNLBD 11 місяців тому +8

    Impossible to answer, really. He kept reinventing himself. I would go with 2018-2019 season as it was his most complete version. But his ultimate prime came during the World Cup in Qatar.

    • @IsaacEzra
      @IsaacEzra 8 місяців тому

      Is a lie ... How old are you??... I don't even think u ever watched Messi from the very onset... Messi is Prime!!! He doesn't have a prime... He is just Prime!!

  • @superstrongr
    @superstrongr 9 місяців тому +3

    If you look at the stats he was actually in his prime between 2006 and 2022.

  • @milk__teee
    @milk__teee 11 місяців тому +14

    I feel like Messi can have as many primes as he wants. 2012, 2015, 2022
    And there’s other seasons where he did just as well.
    However I’ll always say 2014/15 Messi was my favourite version of him. Probably because MSN had became a thing and they really were dominant.

  • @lxfj2128
    @lxfj2128 10 місяців тому +8

    2015-2020 complete player prime 2008- 2015 dribbling and goalscoring prime

  • @Ashewezah
    @Ashewezah 7 місяців тому +2

    I just pray.. Please give us some one like Messi who can play a beautiful game like a wizard.... In this generation after Messi retired!

  • @NoMouthNoScream
    @NoMouthNoScream 6 місяців тому +4

    Funny how Messi's Prime aligns perfectly with Football's prime

  • @martinsakeredolu7509
    @martinsakeredolu7509 11 місяців тому +2

    Clicked on this intending on watching a few minutes and ended up watching it in its entirety.
    Great video. Very well made.

  • @NkanyisoButhelezi-d4y
    @NkanyisoButhelezi-d4y 11 місяців тому +5

    He is my idol I look up to Lionel Messi ❤

  • @robinsoninforma
    @robinsoninforma 8 місяців тому +1

    Messi is one in a kind! we will never ever see someone like him again, extremely lucky whose born in this era to enjoy him.

  • @Real_Musicc
    @Real_Musicc 8 місяців тому +1

    There'll never be another like Leo Messi the greatest of all time 🐐🐐🔥🔥
    His numbers are astounding and don't even tell the full stotry till you watch him play. Equally good at scoring, providing assists and playmaking. The most complete footballer of all time!!

  • @akiprox7
    @akiprox7 10 місяців тому +9

    Messi was never in his prime. His prime was in him.

  • @MeidoVegeta
    @MeidoVegeta 11 місяців тому +4

    He was electric during the 06/07 season.

  • @alexandreneves445
    @alexandreneves445 11 місяців тому +9

    Messi's prime has been since the day he was subbed in to score a wonder to this day. He's the Greatest by far from all of the other contestants. No one has ever played better, longer and more beautiful than him.

  • @mr.thompson8223
    @mr.thompson8223 7 місяців тому +1

    Spot on analysis of his career. Definitely Messi hasn't had lesser periods, just different ones.

  • @samach739
    @samach739 11 місяців тому +6

    Mom wake up!!!! RetroRoute has finally released the video of Messi in his prime. 😊🙌

  • @mwaurahndungu9675
    @mwaurahndungu9675 10 місяців тому +1

    Always grateful that I enjoyed the maestro as a young university lad and still enjoying him 15 years later with my daughter.....All hail the King of football lapulga.

  • @brosiph.
    @brosiph. 10 місяців тому +3

    Messi had 3 primes
    2007-2015 was his club prime. Won everything
    2015-2020 was his lone wolf prime. Prime Barca was over and he was still winning.
    2020-Now is is international prime. Won copa America and World Cup.

  • @ronin9296
    @ronin9296 10 місяців тому +2

    Physically he wasn’t the same after his injury in 2013. But the genius in him was always there adapting, mprovising and calculating new ways to win games

  • @Roy-sr6gs
    @Roy-sr6gs 10 місяців тому +2

    I would like to go to the past to see him play at his best again, it was truly amazing

  • @heidetermeg427
    @heidetermeg427 10 місяців тому +1

    Messi is the only footballer that has ever made me actually cry. That goal vs Bilbao.. I saw that, and I couldn't hold my tears. What an absolute LEGEND.
    I didn't believe in God.
    Until I saw Messi.

  • @Naye710
    @Naye710 11 місяців тому +6

    Bro finally made a Messi one. I watched the Ronaldo one a ton, and I was super excited about this!
    Edit: Thanks for the heart! Will you do one on a retired player? Maybe someone like Thiery Henry?

  • @MugOfPorridge
    @MugOfPorridge 11 місяців тому +3

    I was 8 when he first burst onto the scene, 10 when I got to know about Leo Messi.
    I'm glad to have lived through this fairytale 🧚‍♀️🧚‍♀️.
    I'll be dead soon, but I swear I lived 😢😢🥲

  • @biLLy-op5pr
    @biLLy-op5pr 10 місяців тому +1

    Man that Liverpool semi makes mad when I think about it like that really could’ve been the 3rd treble

  • @mr-is2bf
    @mr-is2bf 10 місяців тому +4

    Every year since 2007 until lets say 2020 is meesi prime

  • @rjmacready9828
    @rjmacready9828 8 місяців тому +2

    '15, '19, '11 are his best
    Although '12 and '18 are underrated

  • @harikrishnan4241
    @harikrishnan4241 10 місяців тому +7

    18/19 season was the best season individually for any player in history

  • @rikard.h
    @rikard.h 10 місяців тому +2

    This was so well written! Great video all around 👏👏👏

  • @gaAW719
    @gaAW719 10 місяців тому +3

    2019 is his prime "one man army" version, the man who carried barca in one season, just need 3 games to win trebel single handedly, winning many individual awards ballon dor, fifa best, golden shoe, top score UCL, laliga and more.

  • @akemihomura6396
    @akemihomura6396 7 місяців тому +1

    The only player who was as his Prime every year by adapting to a different role, what a magician holy molly!!!

  • @5thdawg917
    @5thdawg917 11 місяців тому +3

    Messi & Ronaldo legacy will be spoken about for decades. Just waiting for a day when they both play together, even if its just a exhibition or a charity friendly.

    • @Finn_Lawless
      @Finn_Lawless 11 місяців тому +4

      There's no comparison to be made. Messi was, is and will always be a class above that other guy.

    • @midget420
      @midget420 10 місяців тому +4

      Imo messi is criminally underrated to even be compared to a player like ronaldo. No hate but messi is miles clear.

    • @ajassimanwar
      @ajassimanwar 10 місяців тому

      Blud sneaked penaldo as if we won't notice

    • @zeeo3147
      @zeeo3147 4 місяці тому

      don’t bring up Ronaldo

  • @rockyjdr
    @rockyjdr 11 місяців тому +2

    my favorite football youtube channel back at it again

  • @tcmcity51
    @tcmcity51 10 місяців тому +4

    2018/19 was underrated

  • @inovatifparadigma
    @inovatifparadigma 4 місяці тому

    idk man why this video make me emotional. I just remembered my childhood after watching this video. Maybe my sub-conscious related with some football memories idk how to explain. Great video thumbs up.

  • @laujack24
    @laujack24 11 місяців тому +3

    for me 2010-2011 season was probably messi absolute peak, he has the stamina to run on the pitch most of the game. and probably his peak dribbling season as well, after this he improves his shooting, passing and eventually toward the end of his barcelona years free kick. but barcelona after 2015 was kind of past their peak, all the squad is aging with no right replacement. wasted messi last peak between age 30-33, thats when a player has the most experience while can still runs.

    • @sachithrahasaral7239
      @sachithrahasaral7239 11 місяців тому

      For me also it was 10/11 he was more clutch scoring every big games , dribbles and also playmaking he was a beast.

  • @curtispatrick6475
    @curtispatrick6475 10 місяців тому +1

    Messi will go down as the peak of football. There will be players that end up statistically better than him one day but nobody will ever be able to outdo the storyline and pure magic of him. It won't ever be replicated, can't wait until a box office movie is made about him

  • @fernandoenriquez432
    @fernandoenriquez432 11 місяців тому +3

    The young messi at newlls boys was already great

  • @FrancoDMatz
    @FrancoDMatz 9 місяців тому +1

    What a fantastic video! Excellent narration!

  • @destro3804
    @destro3804 10 місяців тому +9

    there is no prime for messi there is messi for prime

  • @bodelieriwan2773
    @bodelieriwan2773 9 місяців тому

    Hopefully he will be nominated in next years ballon d‘or, he scored a goal just last week and won the last World Cup, definitely deserved!!

  • @MEECshortz
    @MEECshortz 11 місяців тому +4

    Been waiting for this video for a long time after the Ronaldo one let’s go!!!!!!

  • @stuartgraham6307
    @stuartgraham6307 5 місяців тому

    Thia video brings back so many great memories watching messi week in and week out in awe. You always felt like you were watching something special... something that you might never see again in my lifetime at least. Today we're in awe of a number of amazing talent... special in their own right but still only human. Messi was the greatest as a player and perhaps only bettered by his humility and decency.