LETS GROW MORE SILAGE | WHAT fertiliser do we use?? How MUCH slurry??
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
- In this video I catch you up on a very busy week! From sowing fertiliser, spreading slurry and balmoral show I will be glad when things slow down again next week!
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Definitely pour the tanks on out farms ! The extra storage in spring time is invaluable! Tanks really aren’t as expensive to build as you think , no maintenance unlike a nurse tank too! Plus cheap labour in the winter time when demand for drivers is low to ferry slurry out to these tanks!
I’d dewater the slurry, compost the solids then spread them. Use the slurry water to irrigate a field close to the shed.
Can I just say, my family doesnt have a farm. The only farm experience I have is with my grandads small 5-6 beef farm from my childhood. I’ve spent the weekend bing watching the videos to date and it’s the best part of my week. Thank you for doing what you do and showing as deep of insight as you do. Best wishes from Galway!
Woow! Thank you! Glad you enjoyed them!
You need to get the Slurrykat boys to come around and demo their gear on your farm.
Albers aligator roll you slurru bags. Can be moved between fields. Low costs and can be used as nurse tank. I have one. Some job. Mine holds 80,000 gallons
Interesting!! 🤔
2x 3000 gallon single axle abbey tankers with DCI arms. Spread with both tankers when the ground is dry. Cart to the gateway, roll a pipe out and umbilical when wet 👍🏻
I could listen to you talk all day, loved the video!
Wow, thank you!
Great video. Interesting concepts on slurry storage/spreading
Great video content , really enjoy them
Great stuff, ta
Great video
Option 3 makes sense, high initial costs but long term cost effective
Surprise channel pop up. So glad it did. Very interesting and informative.
Welcome aboard. 🫡
We use a trailer as a nurse tank, definitely a cheaper option as we use it for silage too I’ve a video of it on here. Any tanker can blow into it too just put the tank on spread and a flexi hose up to the top of the trailer
No criticism keep the videos coming there top claas
A friend from Denmark converted a 40 foot shipping container with a 1m top extension to a nurse tank, holds approximately 100m³ (~22000gallons). Maybe even as a stationary tank without axles, since it's a bit tight in your area for a 12 to 15m long trailer and it´s definitely cheaper than concrete tanks
I saw a video once where an Irish farmer built his Dairy Unit out in the pasture so everything was close to one another!
It could be very possible to built or install a tank, either concrete or container for storage of slurry...this could be beneficial in winter when tanks are getting full on the main farm.
If you watch Metcalf Farm's in England s'where they have off-site lagoons for this very purpose as there ground is so spread out.
They just put a mixer tractor in and pump out to the nearby fields..
If you have most of your land in one block a large lagoon or slurry store could be great also increase winter capacity but it could be hard to keep mixed unless you add a bubbler system at even more cost. I do think some farms in Belgium have remote stores for additional capacity. I know Farmer Phil takes from a slurry bag somwhere but thats a rare thing.
Option 3 100% spend the money maximise storage. Slurry will all be in the right place when you need it can haul on the rainy days
You could look at the standalone slurry pumps. Although it is an engine sat around waiting for one job
Upon re watching you video I’ve seen lads in the south use 2 containers connected by big pipes and transported by a drop bed low loader extended very cheap option
Thats some trip Andrew, how far out are your fields? Ive learn’t alot about your spreading, good vid pal 👍🏻
Large slurry bag an option
Traveling irrigator is by far the best option. Low soil compaction and very low running cost as it runs off the pump. And you can still use the slurry tank for far away feilds
Seen you at balmoral chatting one of the killen brothers
You can suck the slurry out of the tanker, at the spread plate, connect your pipe from the tanker valve direct to the pump, if you dont have much help, it's works handy, just go fill the tankers & go back & spread it with the Sam help, we use 2-2000g's & a 3000g tankers, it takes a lot of machinery to do all the umbilical system with tankers
Nurse tank is a good job if you have big fields and big acres in 1 place other wise you’re paying men to wait to reel up. DCI arms are good for moving field to field
Over here in New Zealand I'm fertilizer spreading contractor and we do mixes in the one hopper
Blends separate on my at 24m. The K especially doesn't go far enough
For a tank out in your silage fields I wonder would 40ft containers work? join 2 together and you have a lot of storage with them alone and not expensive either, just a thought 👌
I think you should put a tank in the field because when it comes to the spring all the extra slurry storage, you’ll have just Thinking great video
Opt 3 with slurry storage for large blocks but dci arm for smaller blocks
That's a great idea! Both!!
There's a film called "the next three days". It's a good watch.
If u build a tank on the out block it will be of use as ur overall storage capacity , it also raises the value of the out block , down the road u could put a shed over it
Its a tough call!
Option 3
Your contractor seems to have the ideal job, a sealed up shipping container 🤔 💪
What is the best time of year to put box muck on the field and how long does it take to break down until field can be cut again?
New to this all and no slurry but unlimited amounts of dung from the house from winter time.
Thanks
Autumn or spring. You need low covers of grass and it takes a long time to break down.
Build a few tanks the way to go
Two questions,
With the GPS set up, can you toggle across a few inches every time from the last time you were in the field to minimise compaction over time?
Second question, they say that N uptake is roughly 2 units a day. With your 90 unit's that's roughly 45 days, possibly a bit less with the growth at the moment. What time would you say N lasts up to in the ground? Say 50/60 days worth of N put out, would it still actually be available coming to the end of thator would it be lost?
Grass can use a lot more than 2 units a day. That rule is absolutely on the low side.
Look at the time it's taking between slurry and silage cutting and the cost of all the machinery also.
I would get in a contractor in to do all the slurry and silage have more time to manage the farm and also more family time too
Makes sense!
Hi Andrew. A thought provoking video as always. I would stay away from big tankers and nurse tanks. Your own silage gear is one thing but slurry equipment is a very expensive luxury. I think an underground tank on your main outfarm is more beneficial for storage. Both farms could be pumped umbilically with just 2 tractors. Leave the tankers Mr Giles. He is well geared up for the job
Good point!
I'd be interested to know your thoughts on zero grazing an indoor robotic herd sometime.Totally different setup to yours I know.
Do you not loose some Nitrogen by applying slurry so quick after spreading fertiliser?
Maybe, I have never found anywhere an idea of how much. Makes me doubt it.
Slurrykat make a 120 cube nurse tank
could go completely mad and ditch the boom tankers and buy a second hand milk tanker and dolly, if you can get the tractor air supply up to 120psi(should just be a regulator setting) it will run the bags and brakes on the tanker. fill it with a slurry pump/mixer, 8000 gallon in 2-3 minutes fill, another centrifugal pump to offload into a nurse tank, you'll do well to do 24000gal/hr with a pump anyway so, say 8-10 minutes to fill and empty, leaves 10-12minutes travel or 5-6 minutes each way with 8s on tanker, 3095 on slurry agitator, Puma on nurse tank and smaller Massey in the field spreading.
plus track digger to widen gates and laneways to turn etc 🤣
Do you have similar limits on fertiliser rates and stocking rates that we have in the south?
We do, not as restrictive I don't think.
Have you looked up luxury uptake of k?
Heard about it, never noticed any affects and my K soil indexes have improved.
why would you not do maize?
Option 4. Sell the machinery and use a contractor
There is no fun in that 😂 can't beat doing your own silage
And other work
contractor are great at destroying land 😂😂😂 getting stuck and ploughing the field 🤣🤣
We have the tractors, makes no sense unless we went all contractors and done nothing ourselves.
@@FarmTheoryNI More machinery, more finance, more staff required. But if you enjoy that work then I suppose you'll always justify it. Financially I don't think you'll be that much better off.
To spread 2000 gallon an acre what speed do you go?
5kph
Buy a big tank be it a lorry tank water tank etc and burry it in the ground there's your nurse tank cheap as chips
Option 3. Dig a hole in the field and line it so there is no seepage. Absolutely no cost and you can pump out of it as you need.
Lining isnt free, diggers arent free,
what a stupid comment
Andrew, don't try to use a small tractor to pull the umbilical pipe. You'll regret it.
Yes more machines! If you keep going you will have a million pounds
Worth of machinery to spread a million gallons of slurry ...🥳
That's the plan! 🤣
Hey, what country u farming from
Northern Ireland
Some job saving deasel with 2 spreders
It's so good.
🙏🙏🇮🇪🇮🇪👍👍
Whats your opinion on the tow and ferts that are now becoming popular
Honestly not sure. I need to read into it more.
Why don’t you convert a silage trailer into a nursery tank
That's probably a good option