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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @TheRoyalSkies
    @TheRoyalSkies  4 дні тому +22

    Shout-Outs to the Texture guy for "blinging up" the helmet for this video! If you guys wanna try out the site yourself you can find a link to it in the description! Had a lot of fun testing it, and can't wait to see where it goes!

  • @Sabagastache
    @Sabagastache Годину тому +2

    The big thing will be if we can feed the 3d models back into the prompt and give specific details. I've mostly been using AI for programming assistance and being able to feed back in a file has been the biggest help to get specific tweaks.

  • @arckanumsavage2822
    @arckanumsavage2822 18 годин тому +3

    Take an image, crop it to get only head image. Generate the head. So all polygons and texture will be in this head only instead of being distributed to entire character. Then generate the body and connect it to the head in blender. Profit.

  • @dibaterman
    @dibaterman 6 годин тому +2

    Yeah, a lot of people are scared of these tools but it's like why? This means more time to live your life.

  • @vi6ddarkking
    @vi6ddarkking 4 дні тому +24

    A trick I use to create 3D Clothing for characters.
    Is to utilize the Blender Controlnet skeleton to get the proportions of my character.
    Then use said skeleton and an Image AI generator to get a 2D T pose image. Then feed it to an image to 3D AI.
    It's not perfect (yet). But it's good for prototyping.

    • @esuriddick
      @esuriddick 4 дні тому +1

      Could you share a little bit more on the steps you take for this? Sounds promising to get reference images.

  • @Azrael_Bathory
    @Azrael_Bathory 4 дні тому +14

    As far as generative AI go, I can actually get behind this one because it allows people to bring to life something that they drew and created themselves, into a 3D medium. I know that doesn't always have to be the case and isn't always going to be since any image can be used from any source, random generated ones included. But this is the kind of AI assisted workflow that indie dev need in such a cluttered industry, something to bring your creation and vision to life. My issue with total random generation feels more like the human assisting the AI.

    • @NihongoWakannai
      @NihongoWakannai 2 дні тому

      What's the difference between taking an image you made and generating 3D vs taking a character concept you wrote and generating an image?
      In both situations you created a concept and then the AI did the creative work of rendering it to a new medium.

    • @Azrael_Bathory
      @Azrael_Bathory 2 дні тому +1

      @@NihongoWakannai to an extent, but the generated image coming straight from the AI is prompted by a human, but ultimately its "thought process" is self governed by the program and not the creative thought process of a human, it just takes your words/prompt into consideration..so you are not in full control of what is being produced. But that is referring to image generators, this is talking about using a 3d model generator. The human should be doing the creative work, not the other way around, at least for the most part. when its your actual concept art, its creating a 3d render of something you made and not altering the image you made.. you did the creative work for the character/item at that point and the program did the tedious work modeling it into a base mesh that can then be tidied up. Not everyone is a physical artist and not everyone is a 3d artist. Find an AI assistant to do the stuff you aren't as skilled at or lack the time to do, especially for the indie devs out there. What I was trying to say here is that at least using your own concept art apposed to a strictly AI generated image is that it is creatively coming from you.. and not the program. AI image generators NEVER get what I want visually, thats why this appeals to me so much more. I can take an image I created either in real-life or in photoshop and have it turned into a 3d model faster than i could make it into one. Now we can touch it up and re-make the textures. Also, a legal technicality of purely generated images, is that you cannot own them as a creative property because of the process at which it was created.. which if your just doing it for fun is fine.. but if you are doing it professionally and truly want to be able to call it your own, creatively and legally, using purely AI generated images for that is dicey.
      I'm sorry, that was a way longer response than i was expecting it to be 😆

  • @kenhiguchi2144
    @kenhiguchi2144 4 дні тому +15

    All solo deves are gonna extra boosted.

  • @sayuriartsy5108
    @sayuriartsy5108 4 дні тому +19

    Since your game was about space ships, I'm surprised you didn't show footage of yourself trying to plug in images of star ship designs.

    • @lorddiego
      @lorddiego 3 дні тому +1

      After 7 years of working on it as solo-dev, probably he just doesn't want to get near the project. I wouldn't for sure 😂

  • @Ludicrous_Speedway
    @Ludicrous_Speedway 4 дні тому +11

    Holy crap it works on cars too. I spent yesterday taking 600+ pictures for my usual photogrammetry workflow and fed 1 picture this got 90% of the way there, in like 20 seconds. That's awesome. It’s not good enough for what I want to do yet, but it reminds me a lot of playing with the early versions of Disco Diffusion. It’s going to be really cool, really soon!

  • @impactframes
    @impactframes 3 дні тому +2

    I made the comfyui port custom node for trellis. It's never been a better time to be an indie game developer or artist to produce stuff.

  • @mischief9672
    @mischief9672 3 дні тому +6

    I'm so mixed on this. I just graduated from a 3D art program. I've been saying for awhile now that if AI blows up, it will be the death of game companies. Why work for a major company when your team is only 8-12 people? I'm glad I was already planning on learning game dev, being a jack-of-all-trades will be important to stay in the industry. Excited to work on my personal projects, at least.

    • @NihongoWakannai
      @NihongoWakannai 2 дні тому

      I think it sucks that AI is so fast that anyone who doesn't use it will be outcompeted and unable to make money in the future. But using AI takes so much of the human element out of the process...

  • @moshmoshpitpit
    @moshmoshpitpit 4 дні тому +22

    Not only is it free, you can just... run it on your own PC, so long as you have an Nvidia graphics card. Someone made a fork that is a few-command installer on Windows (but you DO need to download the CUDA tools first). Thanks for covering this!

    • @arash5550
      @arash5550 3 дні тому

      i think it needs 12 vram . i have 6 with 3060 . can i do it ?

    • @NihongoWakannai
      @NihongoWakannai 2 дні тому +2

      ​@@arash5550 yeah and nvidia is only releasing low VRAM cards now to suck money out of people using AI by making them buy top end cards lmao.

  • @MythicMasters-m5v
    @MythicMasters-m5v День тому +1

    Thank you for showcasing this. As I have been saying AI is more of a tool than an actual replacement for the artist, it does help prototype and get measurements of a model way more easily. Unfortunately, companies like Activision for Call of Duty Black Ops 6 seem to not understand that. Probably why so many people are leaving the company and I am not just talking about the actors here.

  • @dark-wd6pd
    @dark-wd6pd День тому +1

    And you can of course rebake the original texture and have both nice topology, and not have to retexture (if said character is not going to be close to camera)

  • @unitNitro
    @unitNitro День тому +2

    My personal favorites is Rodin by hyperhuman. mainly because of the control and parameters around the “redo” button. unfortunately the Geometry options are behind paywall, but being able to go from 5000 poly’s up to 18,000 and it mostly make sense (WITH a t-pose option) is pretty nice.

  • @GeoAnima
    @GeoAnima 4 дні тому +4

    You are a legend ! This will save a lot of time ! Imagine having the option to remesh or re-topo online

  • @a123b123c123d123c123
    @a123b123c123d123c123 4 дні тому +36

    To be honest I think the quality female character wasn't that far from the quality of the male characters. I think you just have higher standards for female characters.

  • @sikcJr
    @sikcJr День тому +1

    Btw if you had a Machine-Learning-Genie-Wish, which process of 3D modelling refinement 'grunt work' would you like to see automated?

  • @isaacfrand3824
    @isaacfrand3824 3 дні тому +2

    bro started a little skeptical and was instantly blown away. I think I'm gonna bookmark this

  • @RDD87z
    @RDD87z 4 дні тому +6

    Nvidia meshtron got us covered about topology. Let's just wait to be released.

  • @Gryff_Art_3D
    @Gryff_Art_3D 4 дні тому +2

    Another day, another royal skies video, splendid! I dig this sort of “let’s find out” unscripted seeming video, keep it up man!

  • @Dj-Mccullough
    @Dj-Mccullough 4 дні тому +29

    The best part of this software in my opinion, is that you can run it on your local system, and not expose any data to cloud based Ai's.

    • @cyonu5675
      @cyonu5675 4 дні тому +3

      bro is afraid of ais while using ai 😭

    • @crispyghoul
      @crispyghoul 4 дні тому +4

      can you explain how to do that for a beginner?

    • @NihongoWakannai
      @NihongoWakannai 2 дні тому

      ​@@cyonu5675 I can't let people steal my data for use in AI! That's MY job!

  • @Grumpy_Kangaroo
    @Grumpy_Kangaroo 3 дні тому +4

    I don't like A.I I can't stress that enough but this...this changes the game. I can't draw for crap but i've become decent at making models when I have a reference of some sort. This has allowed me to turn my bad art into useable reference to actually make something cool

  • @darrennew8211
    @darrennew8211 4 дні тому +5

    "Instant Meshes" is another great remeshing program for free. But this is really cool. I wonder how it does on props unrelated to medieval characters.

  • @crummymudd8625
    @crummymudd8625 3 дні тому +2

    Thanks for video, and the quick demo, I probably would not have tried it on my own, and definitely could not give the knowledgeable, experienced opinion of it. This opens the tool for me, and it will save me so much time! In fact, it can do 3d better than me (no I am not an artist, just some dude that wants to make a game)

  • @ShahanAkhter
    @ShahanAkhter 4 дні тому +1

    that's incredible... never knew about this.. thanks for getting straight to testing and showing what it can do

  • @arash5550
    @arash5550 3 дні тому +1

    what a time to be alive

  • @Thesupperals
    @Thesupperals 3 дні тому +1

    AAAY!! I should have mentioned this baby earlier... but it was in the stages of not being this good as of today. I'm glad you found it.

  • @Marcel2278
    @Marcel2278 4 дні тому +8

    I will admit it gives out trash topology but it does give you a solid base mesh starting point and if you're good at retopo you can have a finished high quality character in a day instead of a week

  • @GuestUser-jf8uj
    @GuestUser-jf8uj 4 дні тому +2

    you did exactly what I'd hoped someone would do, show a potential pipeline/workflow when everyones whining that it's not "pipeline friendly" or whatever. If you have the time, would you be able to make a video showcasing one of those characters working in a topdown UE5 template? I don't have the skill to do that but it would be sick to see it in action

  • @alhusseinali
    @alhusseinali 4 дні тому +3

    Oh that's huge !!!

  • @4.0.4
    @4.0.4 4 дні тому +2

    This would be absolutely excellent for a starting point, if you have concept art. Also it will get better than this over time!

  • @Supreme-Emperor-Mittens
    @Supreme-Emperor-Mittens 2 дні тому +2

    Let's see if we could break this software ...
    WOMEN
    lol

  • @hefferwolff3578
    @hefferwolff3578 3 дні тому +1

    Woah amazing!

  • @AlexaCWS
    @AlexaCWS 4 дні тому +3

    One hour of cleanap? from what I saw it was 1 seconds of cleanup - Zremesh button. So the model is still at an early stage

  • @kingfirebone2000
    @kingfirebone2000 4 дні тому +2

    Trellis Multi image generation was just released too, should be a good tool for controlling the generation.

  • @penscrap
    @penscrap 4 дні тому +2

    I've learned from testing (certain) Mirko images, TRELLIS is surprisingly good at interoperating shapely backstory just from the contours of front leg muscles

    • @slavsit7600
      @slavsit7600 4 дні тому +1

      we got a cultured man right here

  • @wycoturmoil
    @wycoturmoil 4 дні тому +1

    I like how you adapt this

  • @konoko-o3o
    @konoko-o3o 3 дні тому +2

    Topology is not the only issue. When you zoom in on the character, the details look terrible. To make it usable, you need to create each component of the character's armor or clothing individually, then assemble everything, retopologize it, and apply textures, but is certainly a beginning It will accelerate a lot my projects.

  • @baraneo8195
    @baraneo8195 4 дні тому +1

    Yo, should test more like this. Enjoyed watching

  • @fals_volks3127
    @fals_volks3127 4 дні тому +2

    The helmet is actually pretty good.....like a pilot helmet or Military helmet 🤔

  • @Kullervo456
    @Kullervo456 4 дні тому +2

    Not sure how in depth you went into testing this tool beyond the video. Just curious if there are certain types of images that work better than others?

  • @KillerShadow115
    @KillerShadow115 3 дні тому +1

    This is amazing can't wait to test it out. I am a 3D modeler making things from sratch for some personal projects but if I can skip having to create the block out and go straight to clean up it would really speed things up!

  • @TimesMen-LY-1
    @TimesMen-LY-1 4 дні тому +1

    hey can anyone tell that "how to fix topology" because that would be great

    • @RusticKey
      @RusticKey 3 дні тому

      Use remeshing features in your favourite 3D software. Zbrush has a very good remesher and Blender has Quadriflow (but I think it's kinda arse), you can also use Instant Mesh.
      They are good enough otherwise you can manually fix them.

  • @pollyhedralcathedral
    @pollyhedralcathedral 4 дні тому +1

    I shall be a conceptualizing waaaaaay more now!!! Hell Yeah!!!

  • @leonaluceid2388
    @leonaluceid2388 3 дні тому +2

    O.O) we just short into retopo?

  • @zid_just_zid
    @zid_just_zid 4 дні тому +1

    Great to see you playing around with this, ive been poking at a couple of avatars using trellis and cleaning up the topo afterwards.
    Would you consider giving Stable Projectorz a go and reporting some thoughts?
    It would be an on topic follow up to this vid as it is a free AI Gen texturing tool.
    I cant recall if ive ever commented on one of your vids but ill make sure of it now: Thank you for your series on UV mapping, rigging and weight painting in blender, they were very great when i was getting started and i always refer people to them if they ask about the topics.

  • @fabbrobbaf
    @fabbrobbaf 3 дні тому +1

    This is the kind of AI I want to use, a tool that helps me, not substitutes me.

    • @Qewbicle
      @Qewbicle 3 дні тому

      That's what it was the whole time. Except for those it wasn't.

    • @NihongoWakannai
      @NihongoWakannai 2 дні тому

      "I want a tool that takes other peoples jobs, not my job"

  • @mousomashakel
    @mousomashakel 3 дні тому +1

    do you know how to clean it up with blender. for Free 😊😊

    • @Marvin-vs3tu
      @Marvin-vs3tu 2 дні тому

      Either use voxel Ramesh and decimete modifier after or use their built-in quad remesh. If you wanna better topology it's better to do it manually or get a paid add-on.

  • @Zeithri
    @Zeithri 4 дні тому +1

    That's pretty neato.

  • @noosman16
    @noosman16 3 дні тому

    I am glad that at 50+ my 3d artist career is coming to an end…

  • @NeoDragoon159
    @NeoDragoon159 4 дні тому +1

    This could be very useful for 3d printing.

  • @johnramhos
    @johnramhos 4 дні тому +1

    Well companies will just generate the 2d image via Midjourney or whatever and then use this. So AI for everything!

  • @pranav_indoria
    @pranav_indoria 4 дні тому

    Hey man, could you make a tutorial on installing it locally, that would be great...

  • @wsg1231
    @wsg1231 3 дні тому +1

    my face 🙂

  • @dreamisover9813
    @dreamisover9813 4 дні тому +1

    obviously it's not perfect, but that's still very impressive!

  • @Cwutter
    @Cwutter 4 дні тому +1

    as refine they are getting, will this may hand made artist obsolete?

    • @lefourbe5596
      @lefourbe5596 4 дні тому +3

      nah only the bad ones, the actual good Artists do not fear this. they will use it partially when it's convenient or go hybrid workflow.
      for example, electronic music have not replaced instrumental. but there is probably less of it.

    • @NihongoWakannai
      @NihongoWakannai 2 дні тому

      ​​@@lefourbe5596 electronic instruments have had a massive negative impact on the viability of being a musician as a career.
      People like you will call anyone being replaced "bad" even if they have 5+ years experience. You just keep moving the goalposts of what "bad" is to match AI's current capability until eventually even people with 30+ years experience are "bad" according to you.

    • @lefourbe5596
      @lefourbe5596 2 дні тому

      @@NihongoWakannai i had said bad but I was more or less calling out "scam" artists in career that doesn't know how to work. Those that are a pain to work with don't want to be held accountable but are necessary to do grunt work (like ads ?)
      Actually, nobody have to be the best at anything to be relevant. As long as you give something different that sells and live up to your name.

    • @NihongoWakannai
      @NihongoWakannai 2 дні тому

      @@lefourbe5596 how is anyone supposed to become a great artist if there's no job opportunities for less good artists? Is everyone supposed to study for 15 years in one field before they can even get a single job? By the time they finish studying then AI would have already progressed and beaten them.

    • @lefourbe5596
      @lefourbe5596 2 дні тому

      @@NihongoWakannai you don't need a job to get good. but yes this would help for sure. my recents commisions pushed me to re think my process. when not, i often time provide help over discord tackling problems that would spice the game. i did that as a 3D beginner and i do that in AI now.
      - it goes like : "hmmm i like his project, how can i fix his issue in a manner that benefit my own project ?* -
      and then i get beter
      Just like Royal skies do youtube tutorial, it's not only for us, it's also for him.

  • @shivam7156
    @shivam7156 3 дні тому

    As a 3d artist, modelers are cooked

  • @CryptidMom
    @CryptidMom 3 дні тому

    I'm not sure if this was covered before, but as cool as this is... wouldn't Steam not allow us to use these in a game that's on their marketplace?

    • @juanjesusligero391
      @juanjesusligero391 3 дні тому +1

      There is no problem, Steam only tell devs to disclose if they use AI and how they use it, they don't forbid using AI.

  • @ivanm.612
    @ivanm.612 4 дні тому +3

    Give it a rig and try to animate the character. 😅

  • @HeavyHouse24
    @HeavyHouse24 4 дні тому

    look at that. Just start studying 3D and now A.I can do it too. Welp, look like I gonna be on the street

    • @juanjesusligero391
      @juanjesusligero391 3 дні тому

      Or you can use the new tools to make things more efficiently. Honestly, if you are studying 3D, you are far ahead of anybody using the AI tools without (or with little) 3D knowledge.

    • @Marvin-vs3tu
      @Marvin-vs3tu 2 дні тому

      If you give up there will me less competition for the artists that didn't give up. Do you want that?

  • @The_SupremeSage
    @The_SupremeSage 4 дні тому +1

    “Specific” details

  • @h2diii
    @h2diii 4 дні тому +1

    👍👍👍

  • @Radar_2576
    @Radar_2576 4 дні тому +14

    As a 3D artist - what a shitty time to be alive

    • @SaishiYT
      @SaishiYT 4 дні тому +1

      Yep, my thoughts exactly!

    • @ASchnacky
      @ASchnacky 4 дні тому +9

      a mathematician said that about the calculator

    • @lefourbe5596
      @lefourbe5596 4 дні тому +1

      then get beter ?

    • @Radar_2576
      @Radar_2576 3 дні тому

      @@lefourbe5596 what for? If there won't be a need for the good 3D artist soon, then why would I.

    • @lefourbe5596
      @lefourbe5596 3 дні тому +2

      there will be a need still. stuff won't be made by themselve. Provide value where ai lacks and where it's not lacking build on top of it.

  • @nekospace3614
    @nekospace3614 4 дні тому

    😉 well i'ven I'm a man who's enjoying drawing male characters, i feeling right now it's something very intriguing here with everybody here 😉. (Certainly authentic everyone here)

  • @SanyaBane
    @SanyaBane 4 дні тому +1

    😮

  • @TechCarnivore1
    @TechCarnivore1 4 дні тому +2

    Can you run this locally? I will utilize this for sure but how would I go about releasing my game on steam without receiving spam negative reviews by anti-AI people? If I release a game and they know I used AI, they will send me death threats. I have seen it before and it has happened to people I have talked to.

    • @TheRoyalSkies
      @TheRoyalSkies  3 дні тому +2

      I believe you can run it locally - And, don't worry about the hate spam, it's only been around a year and the average person is already enjoying AI stuff like Harry Potter wearing Balenciaga, Pirates of the Carrabean going to the gym, and Star Wars vs Gucci videos are wildly popular. It's becoming normalized very quickly, and within a few years will be as standard as photoshop. In addition, there are plenty of large groups of people who support AI, and you should definitely join and share your creations on those discords so they have the chance to see and support your work - so just hang tight and enjoy what you create in the meanwhile :)

  • @centripetal6157
    @centripetal6157 4 дні тому

    You forgot to mention that every image generated will cost money. It's not free - after a certain amount, you get charged.

    • @Ai_wifus
      @Ai_wifus 4 дні тому +1

      its free you can install it on your pc

    • @lefourbe5596
      @lefourbe5596 4 дні тому +2

      yeh but if you have a 16Gb + Nvidia GPU in your desktop it would be free

    • @Ai_wifus
      @Ai_wifus 4 дні тому +1

      @@lefourbe5596 it works on my rtx 3060 12gb

    • @centripetal6157
      @centripetal6157 3 дні тому

      @@Ai_wifus wait... how do you install it for free?

    • @upc9887
      @upc9887 2 дні тому

      i have 8gb card and it works

  • @DTylerV
    @DTylerV День тому

    holy AI slop

  • @mayckonwolf
    @mayckonwolf 4 дні тому +1

    is bad,i mean maybe for objects is useful.

  • @newbossbro3180
    @newbossbro3180 4 дні тому +4

    This is going to take so many ppl out of job.

    • @weltlos
      @weltlos 4 дні тому +3

      Hopefully (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)

    • @gamepeon8038
      @gamepeon8038 4 дні тому +1

      Games might go back to taking 2 years to make again like back in the PS2 days so we can see more niche games getting made with a closer level to AAA quality.

    • @Radar_2576
      @Radar_2576 4 дні тому +1

      ​@@weltloswhat you mean hopefully? Right now as a beginning 3D artist, you need to have at least +3 years of experience to have a chance at recruiting for a job.

    • @newbossbro3180
      @newbossbro3180 4 дні тому

      @@gamepeon8038 honestly I dont believe this myth of "taking too long to make games". Indies already pumping out games with far smaller team than to AAAs. AAAs should stop the habit of firing veterans out of job to save profit. Also predatory practices they do.

    • @nyomanbandarayani6830
      @nyomanbandarayani6830 4 дні тому +1

      Nah, this AI can't retopo nor UV mapping. As long as AI can't do that, there is no reason to use AI

  • @l.a.w.6494
    @l.a.w.6494 4 дні тому +1

    Here me out is bad if you draw a character design then have ai make it 3d, then do the retopo. Should your game get hate

    • @wycoturmoil
      @wycoturmoil 4 дні тому +3

      ...it's still your intellectual property. You supplied the image you created.

    • @Rheez3D
      @Rheez3D 4 дні тому +3

      Well its the only way you'd get an original design. Ai is a just another tool in your toolkit as an artist/game developer. Whatever works works right ?

  • @bwhity
    @bwhity 2 дні тому

    the topology is ass, the UV's are ass, the textures are ass, you have to retopo everything which will ruin the already ass UVs
    tech artists wont be able to use the models because the topology is ass. i think for game ready characters its totally useless. You might be able to get away with some static props but if you are throwing hundreds of AI generated props into a game with their own textures you will have too many draw calls

  • @hoangtran0901
    @hoangtran0901 4 дні тому

    why dont you show the blender model in wireframe bro

  • @SpaceDorito
    @SpaceDorito 4 дні тому +3

    Honestly I got nothing against AI as long as it doesn't steal my stuff without consent and doesn't take my job away in 10 years 😭

    • @maicoxmauler2825
      @maicoxmauler2825 4 дні тому +4

      5 years it is!

    • @Jack-e5t
      @Jack-e5t 4 дні тому

      lol its goin to do both of those things bud. at least itll make some rich shareholders richer.

    • @lefourbe5596
      @lefourbe5596 4 дні тому +2

      it's up to you to stay relevant. produce more and beter with the tools at disposal.

  • @Harindu101
    @Harindu101 День тому

    This is kind of bad news to 3D artists,🥲

  • @nekospace3614
    @nekospace3614 4 дні тому +1

    😉 well i'ven I'm a man who's enjoying drawing male characters, i feeling right now it's something very intriguing here with everybody here 😉. (Certainly authentic everyone here)