Read more about these: CybeArt Referral Link: bit.ly/3ebT6oh SecretLab Referral Link: bit.ly/3wJY56h Alienware/Dell S5000: dell.to/36uhUn4 Vertagear SL5000: bit.ly/3hzrcVf Noblechairs Hero: amzn.to/3NVACt7 Time codes: 00:00 - Don't be this guy! 01:20 - Flashback 02:32 - Introduction Observations: 04:19 - Measure It Up! 07:02 - Handles, Lumbar, Tilt Angles 07:48 - How, What Where (how we tested them) Detailed Chair Reviews: 09:47 - SecretLab Titan Chair Review 15:16 - CybeArt Apex Chair Review 18:52 - Alienware S5000/Vertagear SL5000 26:30 - Noblechairs Hero Chair Review 32:07 - Give Us Some Feedback! 32:28 - Let's Sum It Up! Most Important Part? 38:15 - A Wrap-Up I excluded Roman's Score for these chairs from the videos to keep it shorter, but if you are curious, here it is: Alienware S5000 / Vertageat SL5000 Ease of Use = 3/10 - due to cleaning, messed up assembly, cheap parts, and tough control lever, and that lumbar support.. ugh.. Task Performance = 8/10 - ok armrests, ok recline angle, bad wheels, good comfort for skinny people Build Quality = 4/10 - the gas lift started to deflate during the video process... TOTAL: 5 Noblechairs: Hero Ease of Use = 9/10 - good PU leather, a lot of space on the chair. Task Performance = 5/10 - you need to be a giant to sit in it, too hard, lumbar barely there, no pillow, small recline angle, horrible hard armrests. Build Quality = 6/10 - arrived damaged, cheap armrests for this price. TOTAL: 6.7 SecretLab: Titan Ease of Use = 8/10 - wheels need improvement, pillow keeps slipping away Task Performance = 8/10 - on the harder side, yet too thin cushions at the edge of the base, cuts off blood flow. Build Quality = 8/10 - needs better wheels, squeaks, pay more attention to details (lumbar knob cover), needs a better pillow. TOTAL: 8 CybeArt: Apex Ease of Use = 10/10 - great recline, great OEM parts like on other chairs, easy to clean Task Performance = 7/10 - great grip around the body, seat base may appear too short for people over 6.5ft tall, feels shaky when fully raised, recline angle is too deep may lead to injuries by fall. Build Quality = 7/10 - the lumbar knob plastic shows internal pins, squeaks, feels shaky when fully raised TOTAL: 8
I did my own research and came down to the same 2 finalists that you had: Cybeart and Secretlab, before I came across your review here. It really helped in making my decision easier. Very informative review indeed. Keep up the good work!
Lol, glad you liked it! If you are looking for a chair to use for both pc and console gaming, invest into a good foot rest when playing on a console. Noblechairs make great and affordable foot rests.
This helped a lot with my decision which one to get, but considering one of these companies was „just figuring stuff out“, I think it may be time for a follow up video?
@jeco5431 thanks for watching! I might do another video but only looking at either existing issues, or comparing them to another new chair from Razer that I can borrow. Videos like these are super expensive 😩
Great review of comparing different brands. I think Cybeart is on the right path. If they keep there price competitive compared to the others and all while keep that quality. They can be on a serious contender for the top spot. That being said, there new model Lord of the Rings is one sweet design.
Cannot disagree! Cybeart is definitely on the right path, their main obstacle is their size and financial capabilities, but in a few years once they are fully available in all major markets, they will own some decent marketshare
I think it all comes down to preference. I had a Secretlab titan chair but it did not please me as I expected, the materials were not premium and the colors were not as cool as I saw in the pictures online. Then I sold it and got the alienware s5000 and since then I am much more pleased, the alienware is a bit expensive but the design is much cooler and the material is indeed premium.
Yes, you are right about personal preferences. However, Vertagear has cheaper materials and lower quality craftmanship. I doubt they improved in 1 year.
in the uk the noblechairs is the cheapest option afaik. its £350 compared to £500 for the secretlabs. at that price difference which of the 2 would you pick?
That's a good point! I'd say Noblechair is not worse than SecretLab. So I'd go with cheaper option, they are made of the same parts anyways and though it has smaller wheels, you can upgrade them yourself anytime in the future at low cost.
@ImlegaliSwear not sure what you mean, where do I "shit" all over it? It's a chair review, not some pervert video you are used to. If you want someone to answer your questions, learn to ask politely.
@@ImlegaliSwear there are definitely some drawbacks compared to the others, BUT they don't really justify paying double the price for the other chairs tbh. At the tube of recording the noblechairs was the most expensive, now it's the cheapest. I did get the noblechairs hero st in fabric and it's great. No issues. There are some small things that the modern secretlabs have that set the chairs apart, but when the chair is less than half the price, those small differences are not at all worth the money imho.
How only 12k views? great video wtf Also in europe, noblechairs is usually half the price, which is ironic since everything's cheaper in usa/canada overall. (you can get them from like 200-400€)
Small channels get less attention 😃 But fine, we are getting there step by step. Price in North America for things like this is always high as it's considered to be a luxury item. I find that back in Europe there are more brands to choose from and that's why prices are lower.
I bought all Alienware gear to include the chair. Chair is decent but the lower back pillow needs to be a little stiffer because it provides very little support. Its too squishy and constantly needs raising on my lower back. so the support pillows aren't the best. The plastic holes in the chair back....I have to ask why? Why did they think that was a good idea? Those holes provide no use to the chair. None! Maybe looks cool??? The pillow doesn't use it so Im lost why they would ruin a chair putting those on there. The head pillow is ok I use it when my neck is tired and i want to lean back.
Nice video. I noticed in last 2 vids of desk and chair you tend to provide a lot of details. I got 2 chairs from Cybeart - Batman and Wonder woman and I am pretty happy with it. In the market for 2 nice desks now lol. Any suggestions?
I am all about DIY where possible, so with the desk, I would do it myself with good heavy top from Ikea and sit/stand desk with memory setting from one of the good brands. If you live in Canada, there is a company called Prime Cables, and they do really good frames. I have of these since 2017, well priced and reliable. Overall quality is great. I also realized that all these sit/stand desk companies like Autonomous AI, are all doing same gig like the chairs companies, they buy parts from the same manufacturer and just put their logo on it with some minor differences. 🤷♂️ So yeah, for the desk, do Ikea man, its best dollar/value ratio, specially if you buy their more premium parts
Seems we are at the various brands mercy, asking for arm rests thay do not hurt your arms, or seats that have been tested properly which still have wrong stiffness cusion in the wrong places.... So just pick the best of the worst basically lol 👍 Planned obsolescence mixed with amazing marketing = 2023 gaming chairs (unless you want to pay $2k for a plastic office chair).
Standing desks the way forward, and when get tired, go lay down or walk lol imagine that. No complaints of back support or any "ergonomic" stuff, just learn how to stand straight 😅 Joking but yes, I'm still looking at what chair to buy! Asus netted one is nice, but has 1 year warranty hmmmmmmm Noble is nice, but arm rests are solid and they only just releasing a flat cushion for the base which is extra and a pretty no brained (how did they not release with it?, rush the sales revenue that's how...). Secret labs are a hype train. Herman Miller exist to extort big companies selling them a dream of employees being "looked after" as they sit 8 to 10 hours a day. And here we are!!! 😅 I'll probably go for the noble, but dream about a perfect chair! Is there actually a perfect chair like wtf??? 🫢
@augustusmaximus891 honestly, I'm using one of the higher end ikea office chairs and it provides better support than any of those 4 we looked at, just no fancy graphics. Noble is practically the same as Secret Lab in terms of parts, so when choosing between two it's all about graphics at this point.
Haha can't say I am suprised!!! Well, who can tell you that you are wrong when you litterally are using that chair, and have tested all these others! It is a refreshing conclusion actually, and will check out some of the IKEA models too 👏
great video thank you. hard to believe you just barely mentioned the fact the tension knobs dont work at 14:30, which is a big deal imo. i have a titan and i noticed this right away. there is pretty much zero resistance in the tilt even with the knob maxxed. is the knob and tilt mechanism really identical in the cybeart?
I think it depends on what kind of resistance you expect to get from it... all knobs work. You just need to get right chair size for your weight and size, but that is subject to a lot of factors too. Plus you can always lock the base
@@RomanDoes all office chairs I've tried do this. I just find this titan doesn't allow for any resistance at all. I sneeze in the unlocked chair and it lets me recline, ya know?
@@varunaX sounds like you got wrong size chair for your weight or a faulty spring, try calling secretlab and get a replacement. I never had the lock disengage from any type of movement. Also, these are not proper "office" chairs, so they lack some features of good office chairs.
@@RomanDoes it was not comfortable because the wings were too pronounced. I bent them outwards until they touch the armrests and now it's a very comfy chair. It's my favorite for sure
Alienware has very narrow base, but! this is not why I would avoid it. Main reason is the quality and you are overpaying for branding. I am 6.3, 220 pounds. Not too overweight, but have a few extra pounds here and there. I could fit into Alienware, it was tight, but comfy, like a sport car seat. However, it just falls apart and materials are on the cheap side compared to the other brands in the video. Noblechair was too wide though, so I would choose one between Cybeart and SecretLab. I have not tried SL's new line of chairs, they made some improvements, and look neat. Just bear in mind, if you have to return any of these chairs except for Dell, you have to pay the return shipping, and it's not cheap.
I think it was the slurping 😂 I’m playing tho I know you were having fun, still a great video, I’m a quarter of the way in right now, I was looking into getting an Alienware chair for my office because I’m a fanboy for Alienware but now you got me thinking twice about it!
Read more about these:
CybeArt Referral Link: bit.ly/3ebT6oh
SecretLab Referral Link: bit.ly/3wJY56h
Alienware/Dell S5000: dell.to/36uhUn4
Vertagear SL5000: bit.ly/3hzrcVf
Noblechairs Hero: amzn.to/3NVACt7
Time codes:
00:00 - Don't be this guy!
01:20 - Flashback
02:32 - Introduction
Observations:
04:19 - Measure It Up!
07:02 - Handles, Lumbar, Tilt Angles
07:48 - How, What Where (how we tested them)
Detailed Chair Reviews:
09:47 - SecretLab Titan Chair Review
15:16 - CybeArt Apex Chair Review
18:52 - Alienware S5000/Vertagear SL5000
26:30 - Noblechairs Hero Chair Review
32:07 - Give Us Some Feedback!
32:28 - Let's Sum It Up! Most Important Part?
38:15 - A Wrap-Up
I excluded Roman's Score for these chairs from the videos to keep it shorter, but if you are curious, here it is:
Alienware S5000 / Vertageat SL5000
Ease of Use = 3/10 - due to cleaning, messed up assembly, cheap parts, and tough control lever, and that lumbar support.. ugh..
Task Performance = 8/10 - ok armrests, ok recline angle, bad wheels, good comfort for skinny people
Build Quality = 4/10 - the gas lift started to deflate during the video process...
TOTAL: 5
Noblechairs: Hero
Ease of Use = 9/10 - good PU leather, a lot of space on the chair.
Task Performance = 5/10 - you need to be a giant to sit in it, too hard, lumbar barely there, no pillow, small recline angle, horrible hard armrests.
Build Quality = 6/10 - arrived damaged, cheap armrests for this price.
TOTAL: 6.7
SecretLab: Titan
Ease of Use = 8/10 - wheels need improvement, pillow keeps slipping away
Task Performance = 8/10 - on the harder side, yet too thin cushions at the edge of the base, cuts off blood flow.
Build Quality = 8/10 - needs better wheels, squeaks, pay more attention to details (lumbar knob cover), needs a better pillow.
TOTAL: 8
CybeArt: Apex
Ease of Use = 10/10 - great recline, great OEM parts like on other chairs, easy to clean
Task Performance = 7/10 - great grip around the body, seat base may appear too short for people over 6.5ft tall, feels shaky when fully raised, recline angle is too deep may lead to injuries by fall.
Build Quality = 7/10 - the lumbar knob plastic shows internal pins, squeaks, feels shaky when fully raised
TOTAL: 8
I did my own research and came down to the same 2 finalists that you had: Cybeart and Secretlab, before I came across your review here. It really helped in making my decision easier. Very informative review indeed. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for checking me out!
old video, but deff happy i found it!, this helped me alot for figuring out what to purchase.
Glad I could help!
what did you get? im stuck lol.
@@cyborgrat what country do you live in?
@@cyborgrat I got the Harley Quinn one 😀
i play on PC as well as console. but the beginning intro is pretty much every PC master race dude i’ve ever met.
Lol, glad you liked it! If you are looking for a chair to use for both pc and console gaming, invest into a good foot rest when playing on a console. Noblechairs make great and affordable foot rests.
This helped a lot with my decision which one to get, but considering one of these companies was „just figuring stuff out“, I think it may be time for a follow up video?
@jeco5431 thanks for watching! I might do another video but only looking at either existing issues, or comparing them to another new chair from Razer that I can borrow. Videos like these are super expensive 😩
Great review of comparing different brands. I think Cybeart is on the right path. If they keep there price competitive compared to the others and all while keep that quality. They can be on a serious contender for the top spot. That being said, there new model Lord of the Rings is one sweet design.
Cannot disagree! Cybeart is definitely on the right path, their main obstacle is their size and financial capabilities, but in a few years once they are fully available in all major markets, they will own some decent marketshare
Well thats that. I'm officially saving for a CybeArt Apex Series in Arctic White. Thanks!
I think it all comes down to preference. I had a Secretlab titan chair but it did not please me as I expected, the materials were not premium and the colors were not as cool as I saw in the pictures online. Then I sold it and got the alienware s5000 and since then I am much more pleased, the alienware is a bit expensive but the design is much cooler and the material is indeed premium.
Yes, you are right about personal preferences. However, Vertagear has cheaper materials and lower quality craftmanship. I doubt they improved in 1 year.
in the uk the noblechairs is the cheapest option afaik. its £350 compared to £500 for the secretlabs. at that price difference which of the 2 would you pick?
That's a good point! I'd say Noblechair is not worse than SecretLab. So I'd go with cheaper option, they are made of the same parts anyways and though it has smaller wheels, you can upgrade them yourself anytime in the future at low cost.
Also Starfield edition looks 👌 😍
@@RomanDoes It seems in the video you shit all over Noble but here you're saying to buy it. What gives?
@ImlegaliSwear not sure what you mean, where do I "shit" all over it? It's a chair review, not some pervert video you are used to. If you want someone to answer your questions, learn to ask politely.
@@ImlegaliSwear there are definitely some drawbacks compared to the others, BUT they don't really justify paying double the price for the other chairs tbh. At the tube of recording the noblechairs was the most expensive, now it's the cheapest. I did get the noblechairs hero st in fabric and it's great. No issues. There are some small things that the modern secretlabs have that set the chairs apart, but when the chair is less than half the price, those small differences are not at all worth the money imho.
How only 12k views? great video wtf
Also in europe, noblechairs is usually half the price, which is ironic since everything's cheaper in usa/canada overall. (you can get them from like 200-400€)
Small channels get less attention 😃
But fine, we are getting there step by step.
Price in North America for things like this is always high as it's considered to be a luxury item. I find that back in Europe there are more brands to choose from and that's why prices are lower.
I bought all Alienware gear to include the chair. Chair is decent but the lower back pillow needs to be a little stiffer because it provides very little support. Its too squishy and constantly needs raising on my lower back. so the support pillows aren't the best. The plastic holes in the chair back....I have to ask why? Why did they think that was a good idea? Those holes provide no use to the chair. None! Maybe looks cool??? The pillow doesn't use it so Im lost why they would ruin a chair putting those on there. The head pillow is ok I use it when my neck is tired and i want to lean back.
Nice video. I noticed in last 2 vids of desk and chair you tend to provide a lot of details. I got 2 chairs from Cybeart - Batman and Wonder woman and I am pretty happy with it. In the market for 2 nice desks now lol. Any suggestions?
I am all about DIY where possible, so with the desk, I would do it myself with good heavy top from Ikea and sit/stand desk with memory setting from one of the good brands. If you live in Canada, there is a company called Prime Cables, and they do really good frames. I have of these since 2017, well priced and reliable. Overall quality is great.
I also realized that all these sit/stand desk companies like Autonomous AI, are all doing same gig like the chairs companies, they buy parts from the same manufacturer and just put their logo on it with some minor differences. 🤷♂️
So yeah, for the desk, do Ikea man, its best dollar/value ratio, specially if you buy their more premium parts
@@RomanDoes I agree with that. Will into more IKEA options. Thanks for the advice
Great content, keep it up.
Thanks for this review/ comparison.
Glad it was helpful!
Great review guys. This helped tremendously.
Thanks! Glad it helped!
Excellent review, and definitely worth a full watch
Much appreciated! Its only 10mins per chair
Excellent reviews of the chairs!
Thank you! hope it helped
Seems we are at the various brands mercy, asking for arm rests thay do not hurt your arms, or seats that have been tested properly which still have wrong stiffness cusion in the wrong places....
So just pick the best of the worst basically lol 👍
Planned obsolescence mixed with amazing marketing = 2023 gaming chairs (unless you want to pay $2k for a plastic office chair).
that really sums it up. Unfortunate thing is that even $2k chairs are not much better
Standing desks the way forward, and when get tired, go lay down or walk lol imagine that.
No complaints of back support or any "ergonomic" stuff, just learn how to stand straight 😅
Joking but yes, I'm still looking at what chair to buy! Asus netted one is nice, but has 1 year warranty hmmmmmmm
Noble is nice, but arm rests are solid and they only just releasing a flat cushion for the base which is extra and a pretty no brained (how did they not release with it?, rush the sales revenue that's how...).
Secret labs are a hype train.
Herman Miller exist to extort big companies selling them a dream of employees being "looked after" as they sit 8 to 10 hours a day.
And here we are!!! 😅
I'll probably go for the noble, but dream about a perfect chair!
Is there actually a perfect chair like wtf??? 🫢
@augustusmaximus891 honestly, I'm using one of the higher end ikea office chairs and it provides better support than any of those 4 we looked at, just no fancy graphics. Noble is practically the same as Secret Lab in terms of parts, so when choosing between two it's all about graphics at this point.
Haha can't say I am suprised!!!
Well, who can tell you that you are wrong when you litterally are using that chair, and have tested all these others!
It is a refreshing conclusion actually, and will check out some of the IKEA models too 👏
The Cybeart sounds more to my liking than the secret labs but from what I can see they don't deliver to the UK which is a shame. Great video.
You have many other European brands that are practically the same as SecretLab, because all of them use the parts from the same factory.
Very informative. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
great video thank you. hard to believe you just barely mentioned the fact the tension knobs dont work at 14:30, which is a big deal imo. i have a titan and i noticed this right away. there is pretty much zero resistance in the tilt even with the knob maxxed. is the knob and tilt mechanism really identical in the cybeart?
I think it depends on what kind of resistance you expect to get from it... all knobs work. You just need to get right chair size for your weight and size, but that is subject to a lot of factors too. Plus you can always lock the base
@@RomanDoes thanks. I'm looking for one that offers a TON of resistance, basically one that feels like it's locked without using the lock lever
@@varunaX no such chair that I know of, that's why they have lock on these
@@RomanDoes all office chairs I've tried do this. I just find this titan doesn't allow for any resistance at all. I sneeze in the unlocked chair and it lets me recline, ya know?
@@varunaX sounds like you got wrong size chair for your weight or a faulty spring, try calling secretlab and get a replacement. I never had the lock disengage from any type of movement. Also, these are not proper "office" chairs, so they lack some features of good office chairs.
I would be really curious if the Secretlab Skins would fit on the Cybeart chairs. Along with other accessories like the armrest upgrades.
Armrests are the same. Skins might not fit tightly.
Just got the alienware s5000 no regrets looks nice
Tell me how it runs for you in a couple of months. I never said it looks bad, I said quality is crap
Which ones? Why the ones that aren't sold out.
Could you please rephrase that? I don't understand your question.
Nuke Cola. Love the art it has.
What is cybeart depth and for what height recommended ?
Watch the video, it's all there.
I came here to hear about the alienware chair because I purchased one already, I sure hope I'm small enough for it
how did that go? Did it fit? Look at Razer Iskur as well, they are in the same price range ( at least here in Canada they are)
@@RomanDoes it was not comfortable because the wings were too pronounced. I bent them outwards until they touch the armrests and now it's a very comfy chair. It's my favorite for sure
Thanks roman!!!
Missed the fact that Alienware has coffee cloth mixed into it for freshness of air (hygennx) and it has the Verta air seats.
That totally changes everything!
The cat picked Secretlab
And Alienware
And now it sleeps in the Mortal Combat Scorpion edition of Cybeart chair. We got this one for review too, stay tuned! 😁
Secretlab for Automobili Lamborghini collection ...😍😍😘😘😘
Nice review. Thank you very much. Im looking for a gaming chair and Im short and heavy, so I dont buy a Alienware chair.
Alienware has very narrow base, but! this is not why I would avoid it. Main reason is the quality and you are overpaying for branding. I am 6.3, 220 pounds. Not too overweight, but have a few extra pounds here and there. I could fit into Alienware, it was tight, but comfy, like a sport car seat. However, it just falls apart and materials are on the cheap side compared to the other brands in the video. Noblechair was too wide though, so I would choose one between Cybeart and SecretLab. I have not tried SL's new line of chairs, they made some improvements, and look neat. Just bear in mind, if you have to return any of these chairs except for Dell, you have to pay the return shipping, and it's not cheap.
Yeee best gaming chairs .... :/ f... akr and dxr (; yes i am sarcastic of course :) but seriously where is ak and dx ?
Imagine if I added those to the review! It would be a full hour video lol. I have it in plans, just in a different video 😉
They’re all made in the same factory from the same parts.
That's what I said, didn't I?
@@RomanDoes didn’t hear that part
@@gabrielm.942 literally saying it for 42 minutes 😃😃😃
Intro was making me feel real uncomfortable 😂😂😂
What about it?
I think it was the slurping 😂 I’m playing tho I know you were having fun, still a great video, I’m a quarter of the way in right now, I was looking into getting an Alienware chair for my office because I’m a fanboy for Alienware but now you got me thinking twice about it!
😂😂😂😂
I’ve been asking for the PS5
Parents don’t have enough money while paying for food and bills🥺
After that beginning, wont trust what comes afterwards!
After that comment, nobody will take you seriously over here 🤓
@@RomanDoes Lol. I was on my way out in second 57.
@@wpymes and you had to announce that? Attention deficit much?