The mother is not wrong she allowed him to get his son on breaks without a court order all these years and now the father trying to put on a show. He needed to return the child to the mother and went to court after for joint custody and visitation. Of course he would be the fun parent he doesn’t see him often unlike his mother who is hands on with him.
Sounds like the issue isn’t that he’s the fun parent. If what the dad says is true, it sounds like the son doesn’t like to be home by his self a lot and with his dad he has his step brothers and the wife. Seems like mom is a single parent so she probably does work a lot . I’ve been that child . It gets rather boring and mundane
Kyrie1551 you said that so right, mom is properly the more strick parent because of school, bedtimes, and homework. So dad seems to be fun one during summer vacation. I am going through this with my grandson whom I am raising and his dad. He's the fun dad, gets him on weekends and every other week in summer.
If I understood it right, there was no custody order in place and she went and got one when things went the wayt they did. Both parents were in the wrong if that was the case.
And, I'm steady paying child support (for which he should pay) anyway. When 12 yr. Old states "I don't want to return to Alabama" The father should have immediately contacted mom. Adults/Parents do what is best for the child. This trauma will last a lifetime
@@patticake7297 You are all right but unfortunately everyone's brain don't function the same way. We make mistakes as humans and that's why we have laws.
She should gone to Judge Judy!!! This verdict is BS!!! She’s a single mother traveling to pick up her son, twice!!! He couldn’t make it to court because lack of gas money!! He tried to keep his son to prevent paying child support.
He most likely wanted to get her to pay him child support. My deadbeat ex tried that. This man has been paying support, which is great. He would have filed to now have her pay support. I'm not saying that's wrong! Just that's most likely what he was thinking financially.
Where has he been for 12 years.? He was absolutely wrong. Yes he was the fun parent while the mom been working probably and raising him by herself. Smh
@@scotthewitt258 exactly which lets us further kno this was a bs attempt to get out of paying child support & when the rubber met the road he cldnt even show up for court for an action he started!!! His actions were not valid nor were his intentions pure and for that he will surely reap what he sows!!!
For everyone who doesn't get it... the father just didn't want to pay child support, so came up with a way to not have to pay. It's that simple. Everything else is a lie and him manipulating the situation. It's why he brought it up when he came up with an excuse for why he didn't go to court. He would have fought for his child, if he really wanted him (simply just show up to the court alone)... but I can tell exactly why he wanted the child... and it was bc of child support. And JM is wrong for going after that lady when she said she could have pressed charges for kidnapping. SHE SHOULD HAVE! He decided to take the child against court orders, and then when all she wanted to do was see him for a few seconds, he refused. So she had every right to go to court and complain. He did in fact do everything wrong.
Child support but also, a lot of times when men are with women with kids, all of a sudden they want to step up and show that they want their kids as well. I’ve seen it happen so often.
The fact he pulled this and sis not communicate with the mother about what the child wanted. He has no respect for the mother of his child and teaching the son to lack respect as well cuz wtf who does this. And he even said o couldn't go to court and fight for custody bc I didnt have any money cuz im taking care of my son and paying child support paying for his schooling ge disnt have any clothes etc like boy u caused all that on urself by pulling this stunt. It was most def to not pay child support
I felt like the judge didn't hear the mother at all. They agreed on a visitation time. When it was time for the child to come back to the mother, the father refused to send him back. The mother went to court and got an order. She THEN drove to MICHIGAN from ALABAMA to get the child. Once there the school, police, lawyer, and father ignored a court order and she left without the child. The father 100% should have reimbursed her for wasted time, gas, amd any hotel room(s). I could agree wtih the judgment if she had just went without the court order but she didnt do that. There are a lot of questions that are unanswered as well for example, How long has the child been in the mothers sole custody? How long have the parents been split up? Who moved away from who? If the father wanted to be there, he 100% would not have missed that court date.
It seems the child always lived with his mother, the mother said the relationship between the father and she was long distance from the beginning. She also said he was in the childs life "OFF and On" "come visit from time to time"
@@antoniojames9493totally agree he want to be around his father doing things probably other kids he sees doing with their dad not sit in the house playing video games. She doesn’t have more rights to that child
@@Tahiha exactly. So why would there be no penalty for him keeping the child from the mother? He was the one creating a problem where there was no problem. He had no right to keep the child from her.
@Tahiha but when did you hear the mother had more rights in this case? The father wasn't as present... the mother was allowing him to see his child to take his child.
The father was wrong. You absolutely need to talk to the other parent before you just decide you won’t return a child you share. It’s wrong to leave someone worried sick. Have an adult discussion about custody or he should have tried to get full custody.
SHOTS FIRED AND ALL BETS ARE OFF. The father was wrong and Judge M was out her mind yelling at mom. The boy was going there every summer. She’s not keeping him from his child and they were able to come To an agreement without court for 11 years??? He was tired of paying child support and someone gave him that dumb idea. If it was genuine he would have had a real conversation with mom and she may have worked out something. That was low down to do that.
This guy doesn’t care about his child. He just wants out of his child support, if he really cared he would’ve been there more and at-least would’ve fought for the split custody with her. Sorry dude, showing up for your child’s birthday ain’t gonna cut it as a father.
That's all people are saying child support no be careful women for what you think and say I was in a situation that I wanted to be with my dad because he was the caring parent and my mom was the abuser stop thinking child support all the time because it's not always the case we have done great dads out here so stop if you don't know the actual facts !!!! 😮😮😮😮
@@angeemontague5031Not one time did you hear him say the mom was a bad mom. Y'all be emotional because you've been through situations. Your situation isn't every situation. It's case by case. This mom was being the responsible one while he was in and out of the boy's life at will but soon as she put him on child support then he tried to pull the okey doke. Learn to share your experiences without judgement based on how you were mistreated.
I've been in the mom's shoe's with my son's father and he spread lie's about me to his Mom and when we ended up going to Court he refused to acknowledge my child even though I had to prove it. Then he kept it up and signed away his Rights to my son. He even tried to have a grand jury dig up my son because he got caught in his lie's. I made every attempt to be liberal with him about seeing my son and sharing custody but he refused and I got that put in the custody order. And he never tried to remove my son again
Wow , the verdict wasn't right. That mom is alone and fighting for her son after 12 years of raising him mainly solo and this man and his new woman gets off scott free? Nah
IT WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT...NEITHER ONE OF THEM HAD CUSTODY OF THE CHILD. SHE DIDN'T ESTABLISHED CUSTODY UNTIL DEC. & THAT'S WHEN HE TURNED THE CHILD OVER. LIKE THE JUDGE SAID HE HAS JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO HIS CHILD AS SHE DOES. THAT'S WHY THE POLICE, PRINCIPAL AND LAWYER TOLD HER THAT SHE COULDN'T TAKE THE CHILD WHEN SHE CAME UP TO MICHIGAN TO BRING HIM BACK TO ALABAMA.
@chelseablack boy acting up. Bad grades.....shii what good is she doing? Seems like she can't handle him. She better be like Trae moma on Boyz in the Hood and let daddy have him for a while.
@@QuintonWhite-tq5hd where he should land isn't the point though. He was in and out of his life. Now he's the fun dad with other siblings whereas the mom has to work and is probably stricter. I think if the Dad had communicated properly then this could have been avoided. I would have believed him more had he turned up at court but he couldn't be bothered
Im confused. .. she had a child support order. On that order since the young man lived with his mother... it automatically made her the custodial parent. By this definition he did kidnap the child he did not have legal custody of.
@@Vanessa_Martinezwell unfortunately you are wrong because I am a single father here in Michigan and when I let my daughter's mother take her out for the day while she was visiting from out of state and hadn't seen her daughter long time and sparingly when she did and the mother took off with my daughter out of state and kept her I had to take her to court and so forth and of course they said I couldn't charge her with kidnapping so I asked them what if I was the one that did this to her what would happen to me and they told me to my face that I could be charged with kidnapping even though I had full custody and still do and by the way I raised my daughter primarily by myself ever since and I've had a practically all her life and she's doing great I'm so blessed but the law here in Michigan is kind of messed up however I will admit that was almost 20 years ago
@@Vanessa_Martinez Take it from me... My brother tried this with his daughter, he took her from New Orleans to Atlanta where he leaves and tried pulling this same card that this guy did. All in an effort to absolve himself of paying child support, he coerced my niece. Long story short the mother could have pressed charges against my brother for kidnap once he took her to another state without her mother's consent which is illegal where I'm from.
A parent is at liberty to be whatever kind of parent they want to be (as long as they’re not harming the child physically or mentally), including being a FUN parent. It’s not their fault if you’re the miserable sour parent.
Right, no discipline, and all fun. What he did may not have been illegal, but it was disrespectful and is not okay to do that to another parent or a child.
For years I've read comments about her talking down to black women.. and there have been times where I was thinking. Maybe something more happened they didn't show. But here. I do not care... I've seen her talk nicer to very rude people. It was u called for. The mother wasn't stopping that father from seeing his son.. the father needs a 2nd job to get his money up. His son needs his love
@ehizogieimasuen9565 Thank you she is very nasty and goes to far to me she power trips alot thts why I could not watch her whn she was on TV and am from NYC the mother had no problems wth the dad she sent him for the summer to me he wnted out of tht child support order Periodt ppl think it's not about tht but for sure it was he remarried and the wife had her two children one being a 19 yr old so make it make since his child's mother is in another state working and being a single mom this was not about the child being his or hers it was solely to cut cost not paying child support so his new household will have more money it's easier to take care of a child without having a order in place he didn't like being told wht he had to pay this case was cut and dry the judge should have gave tht woman the lawsuit she asked for judge Milian has always displayed prejudice to me periodt and I said wht I said it's my opinion thts wht this comment section is for she also give me she wnted to be like judge Judy 😂😂😂😂 it never worked for her it comes off just wht it is she is nasty, phony and prejudice on almost all her cases and she never rules fairly again !!!!!
Like we don’t know what happens in court with custody. Women are automatically favored even when the father is a good father. Y’all have weaponized the system against men.
She should have got reimbursed for her wasted trip because he could have called mom and said im keeping him here. Also, mom definitely raised him and dad was around when it was convienent thats just a fact. Otherwise, the father would have tried for partial custody long ago and both parents would be cooperating. Sometimes a parent, usually a father, will wait until a child is a teenager to really step up. When the child can take care alone and not need constant supervison.
He’s so wrong for doing that. Co-parenting is done with the parent NOT the child. Now he wants to play victim because she’s doing the same thing he did. Hindering communication. This is so sad for the kid. Stepmom should be ashamed for allowing this to go down.
I get the feeling she encouraged it. baby let's get your son back, we can throw him in with mine and play brady bunch together like that first woman never even existed. I see it all the time
He the fun parent. Yall wild for saying the child should have a say. He was fine for 12 years and they shared custody with NO plan in place. Now all of sudden the boy wanna stay with his dad. His dad absolutely put that idea in his head. And he is dead saa wrong.
hi.. so.. a baby doesn't grow in age and in mind?.. they are not allowed.. to have a different opinion.. when they get older?.. as far as anybody here knows... he probably eventually went to go live with papi.. please to keep in mind.. this episode.. is yearS old.. baby is probably in university now!.. be blessed
@@Cubanflowersa 12 year old isnt mature enough to know whats best for him. that dad didnt fight for 12 years for joint custoday at the least. and then couldnt afford to go to Alabama for thr custody hearing. So yall think hes financially responsiblento raise another cbild FULL TIME!!! PKEASE BEQUIET
I really have no idea where the judge is coming from right now lol. The mom didn't deserve to be spoken to & treated that way when she tried to do everything the right & legal way!!! unlike this dad who deserved to be chewed out for his behaviour! everything he did screams "f the terms I'm doing things my way. "
@@toobiasj it’s most definitely his fault if he said come get him on a certain day and when she does he changes his mind. I don’t blame her one bit for going to the school if that’s where her son was at.
hi.. neither of them did.. like MISS judge says... they should've took care of this during child support..court!... he did NOTHING wrong.. because.. the mama didn't have sole custody.. therefore... he is with just as much rights as her... you people cant possible.. think you got rights.. with the baby is in womb.. and then when the baby come to the world.. the man.. who CREATED that life. still have to play that rights to choose game with you.. when you dont have.. sole custody!.... amazing how some females.. can think they can just get up and go.. with the baby... without papi permission.. but when papi does it.. .. he is the bad guy!... be blessed..
Everyone that ignored the court order should have been held in contempt, but JM was not wrong. If I were her I'd never let my kid go anywhere with that man again.
@@kimh9420JM couldn't take sides. Parents were sloppy with their business. Mom trusted him, kid playing both sides and Dad did a lot of damage to that relationship.
This just pissed me off. Why is the judge SO mad at the mom when she’s been the SOLE PARENTS FOR YEARS. And just because he’s the dad, he should just take full custody. Why didn’t the dad try harder to be an active father?! And now the judge is mad at the mom for going through the same order of commands the dad did?! It’s so disgraceful to me how the court allows a dead beat parent (mom or dad) to have so much flexibility. Of course the son is angry! HE MISSES HIS PARENT! This is so sad for the child.
NONE of the points you make actually happened in this episode. Mom and dad were equally in error for how they went about this, but she came down on both of them the same on how they BOTH gotta work together for what’s best for the child. And in imo the child’s opinion should be considered, but by no means should it carry a heavier weight than the adults.
First of all there’s no one parent if there’s no child custody order it’s not her child by her self if he’s being a father why he can’t be a parent just cause in NC child can make a decision on what parent they want to live with
no idea where you are getting that. she was simply pointing out the legal situation. he *had* parental rights when he kept the kid, so she wasn't allowed to just undo it because she's the mom. she should have fought for custody right away (and she's saying the dad should if he wants too) she wants them both to be there...that's good
The son didn't say he wanted to stay. He said, "My DADDY wants me to stay, so I'm going to stay". No son, your Daddy did not want to pay child support any longer. If the Defendant really was putting his son first, he would have done things properly and stress free through mediatiom and court. Edit: He didn't show up to court because he doesn't really want his kid. And, what kind of BS was he telling the Police to get them to say the court order didn't matter and he should keep the child? Plus, this child is saying he's going to "kill himself"?!? Whaaaaat is going on?!?
Bad call by the judge, Nothing stopped him from calling the mother and working something out, so everyone could win. He tried to do a snatch and grab, and you let him get away with it…
Why take the child to the police station? There was no abuse of the child. He didn't want to pay child support. He can't afford to take care of the child.
My mother and father separated when I was in high school, but they lived right around the corner from each other. We saw each other all the time. No one kept anyone from my dad or my mom. They got along fine and that’s the way it should be.🙏🏾
My ex and I did the same. Our kids walked back and forth between our two homes. Neither of us even considered moving across town from each other, much less another state.
I'm really honestly SHOCKED how hard judge Milian was on this mom. The mom did nothing wrong and the dad did things the wrong way. Dad broke the trust.
I think the main key factors flew over some of your heads. 1. Parents who do not have a custody order in play do not "allow" the other parent to do anything. They are both on equal ground regardless of where the child stays. 2. The child said he didn't want to go back with mom (probably because dad is more fun to be around). 3. He consulted a lawyer and the police. 4. Mom waited until she had a court order for full custody, and the father released the child back into her custody. The sad part about this is that the father didn't show up for court after he made the moves he made. Hopefully, they figured out a parenting plan.
i hate when these people say i didn't have any money to do something. dude u got a lawyer and paying for school and you couldn't drive to alabama for court, when the whole is about your child. sell that damn necklace your wearing. so you're telling me you want to keep him, but yet you don't have money to support him.
Yea she was wrong period! Courts let the child decide at 12 who they want to stay with in my state, maybe it's the same in their states too and that's why he hollering the child decided it's fun with me, surely the kid said the same thing in previous years during visits if that's how he felt so why didn't the defendant bring it to the plaintiff before, why not just have a conversation with the lady.
The father mishandled this situation. It's called communication!!! He breached the verbal arrangement and tried to illegally take the child!! I'm willing to bet during that time he was withholding the child he was ignoring all her calls as well so why when behaves just like him he wants to cry wolf. Nothing about this woman came off bitter or malicious. The child wasn't in danger or being mistreated so why take that route. It was unnecessary and precalculated. Any child would be upset if their parents were always going back and forth. At 12 you have no maturity to make decisions of that magnitude. The father could have went about this differently.
I also don’t think judge Milan is being objective. To presume that a mother is fearful of her son having contact with dad is insulting because she sent the child to live with him for the summer which was the agreement. I’m not sending my child anywhere I feel he would be in danger… unfortunately they are not actively coparenting. They are in fact sharing a child. Sad
@@leddoandroidgirl 🛎️ 🛎️ 🛎️ cause Sir, you still haven’t been to no one’s courthouse to fight to see your son. You’re the one keeping yourself from your son. 🤷🏽♀️
hi.. ten minute edited show.. that took place YEARS ago... .. but look and see you know.. this man entire biography ..and what kind of relationship.. he has .. with his son.. who is now..probably off to college... that papi is paying for...be blessed
I would've lost my DAMN mind if ANYONE tried to take my child from me. I raised my son...yes his Dad was in his life but I raised him and there would've been hell to pay if his Dad had pulled this sh*t on me!!!! If it was so important for this man to have his son he would've went to COURT!
It’s not YOUR childI. The child belongs to BOTH parents. Women don’t have any more rights to their children than fathers do. If there is no court order you have no more rights to custody than the father. There is zero indication here that he was harming the child in any way. It’s *HIS child too*
Am I missing something. They said they didn’t have a problem with each other until the Dad said he wasn’t bringing him back. Why was JM making it seem like they were having issues?
With all this advice this judge is giving about what the parents should and shouldn’t do, you’d think she’d have an awareness of how offensive it is to refer to black people as “you people”. 🙄
Yall are insane! If I send my baby with his father for the summer and the agreement is that he comes home for the school year and his father UNILATERALLY decides to keep my child - he's wrong! You can't just break our agreement because he says he wants to stay. Talk to me about it so we can make a decision as a unit.
The judge was definitely on one. I am sure she wouldn’t feel that way if she was told that her child wasn’t returning after thinking your child was only going for a summer break.
I do not agree with berating the mother. She doesn't treat her spn like property, she allowed him to spend a full month with his father and he decided not to return him. Yes, the father has rights but that doesn't mean he can uproot him from his primary home
Dad the defendant doesn't want to pay child support period why start & stir the pot only to NOT follow process through then complain abt lack of financial resources just traumatized his son even more. Won't admit he made a poor emotional decision without a long term plan or monetary responsibility. Now he's a so called victim. Complete definition of struggle Love Do Better!
hi.. this show was years ago.. i am sure.. he paid the child support...for his now.. college age baby!.. you people just come and assume so much about a stranger.. you don't know these people biography... you females sound like single parents.. and man haterss..who give the fathers the hard time!... be blessed
Welp seems you're doing the same ASSUming in comments by a strangers subjective opinion based upon an observation of the defendants conflicting testimony. You projecting much or maybe ur jus mid bitter broken baby daddy givin ur beta male feels & vibe
@@Cubanflowers Dude is emotionally immature the son's mental health shld've been his #1 priority its a very serious matter. While he's out here simpin for his wife/ another rnans children instead of showing up also fighting to protect his seed. Simple display of cowardly behavior if in fact allegations of self harm are true otherwise he's a Big LIAR & manipulator who used the narrative for police & school in an attempt to gain leverage. Shame on him plantiff should have prevailed
This happened to me with my son because the dad didn’t want to pay child support so he took my son and thought that I would have to pay him support but when he found out I didn’t have to pay him he told me to come get my son or he would get me arrested for abandonment. I went and picked up my son and he’s now 29 and wants nothing to do with his dad . Divorce can be a menace
This was just wrong on all levels. Mom clearly said that the dad has been in and out their son's life and he didn't dispute that. Now all of a sudden he think he has some entitlement and to a point yes he does because he is the father. But he handled that wrong completely and should have never taken him away like that. That should have been a conversation that he should have brought to mom's attention so that they can come to an agreement or understanding and if they can't then let the courts handle it. He just made a whole decision without including the mom and causing a very stressful situation all the way around. He handled that allll wrong.
When the father mentioned child support and having to pay for his son's schooling, I said that's the reason he wants custody. The child is 12, and now, all of a sudden, the mother is unfit, and I don't believe it. If the plaintiff was a horrible parent, why did the father not try for custody eleven years ago 🤔
Making a 26 hour dry run, yes the plaintiff should have been giving something. If the arrangement has always been visit your dad for the summer why the hell are you playing games now? Then, can't make the trip to get the child back to his mother when it ordered. And this man really tried to make this woman look like a bad mother. It tickled me when Kurt asked the plaintiff if she had anything to say "bye"
That mom did NOTHING WRONG!!!!!! She went to court and drove states away to get her kid! While the fun part time parent didn’t bother one drive for a court date….. bless her and god give her strength
Father was completely wrong! Why wouldn’t he have a conversation with his son and advise him to go home; then communicate with the mother about a joint arrangement.
Yeah I don’t agree with JM on this one. They agreed for the child to come and go on certain dates. He decided unilaterally to keep the child. She didn’t go down there acting a fool, she went to court got all her ducks in a row and went to get her son. Clearly he didn’t have the child’s best interest in mind bcuz the boy said he doesn’t get to see his mom, yet after she did all of that to get him back and he refused, all she asked was that she see him and he said no??? To the mother that’s raised him and is fighting for him? That was cruel smmfh. She should have gotten back every penny she spent in travel to get her son. If not from him, then from the city since their cops don’t respect court orders…
hi.. its like you never did here.. when mama say they had a long distance love affair...? and you are so right... i say the same thing.. to all these females.. who love pick and pack their babies.. take them to different states.. never once asking father's permission to take the life HE created states away!... be blessed
The dad should have talked to the mom, letting her know what her son wants and hammer it out for more time for his visit with his dad. Then support each other knowing their son is loved by both and that they can all stay friendly . It's so better for the kid
There’s nothing wrong with the father wanting to step up but he was completely out of line for how he went about it. If the son did express that he wanted to stay with the father, it was the father’s responsibility to have a conversation with the mother and discuss the situation. Him just deciding to uproot the kid from the unofficial custodial parent was outrageous.
@@sdowns8302 Actually, everything he did was illegal. Did you not watch the case? The mother had custody of the child, and he tried to keep the child away from her. She did in fact had a right to press kidnapping charges against him, but chose not to. She's been more than fair. He has been in and out of the childs life and ONLY decided he wanted the child when he had to start paying child support. Now all of a sudden he wanted full custody? Yet didn't even show up to court to get visitation rights? Did y'all not watch the case?
This father supposedly was willing to do whatever he could to make his child happy, but he couldn't show up to the scheduled court date? Or subsequently file for joint custody or, at the bare minimum, scheduled visitations? He hasn't seen him and has only spoken to him twice since this occurred. I'm very confused about his motives, based on his lack of action since.🤔
The mom initially had nothing but good intentions by letting her son go by his dad for 1 month. The dad was 100 percent wrong by not returning him, which means he did not uphold the end of his bargain. It is illegal to take a child to another state without the parents' consent. It seems every was gaslighting the mother by saying that's his son too, when she never had any issues prior to the dad keeping the child. Doesn't make sense/.
Ma’am if they’re is no custodial order she is the primary parent. JM gets on my nerves. And the fact that the FATHER couldn’t bother to show up for court at that point she was granted full custody she gets her child back!
As a parent with full custody in Alabama, a child support order & custody order are two separate matters. That’s why it wasn’t kidnapping. The Dad was dead wrong! He didn’t want his son fr, he didn’t want to pay child support. I feel for the mother, i went through this exact situation except the father was in Alabama, didn’t want to pay child support & ended up trying to keep the kids. I proved that I’d had them all of their lives and he worked 7 days a week so I wasn’t sure how he’d be of his emotional and mental support working 7 days a week. Won full custody. His house was the fun house. My house there are rules & guidelines to follow. He was 12 & impressionable, I’m sure his Dad convinced him to want to stay. Not to mention, if mom had to work to provide, of course you won’t see her 24/7. Since Dad didn’t have the funds to travel to and from Alabama, it sounds like he’s living off of the wife.
This happen to my sister!! She allowed my nephew to go with his dad for the very first time in the summer. He then decided he wasn’t sending him back, come to find out he just no longer wanted to pay child support any longer! so he thought if he kept him it would go away. Nope!! the judge saw right through his mess and returned him back to my sister and made the dad pay back pay!
Notice when he's with mom, then he gets to see dad, but when he's with dad, he's completely separated from mom, not allowed to see her. That's NOT best for the child. He just did this to weasle his way out of paying child support.
Funny how when the dad wanted to talk to the son and the mon denied judge got angry with her, but what about when the dad denied the mom a chance to see the boy
Honestly this a hard one for me to comment on without having a personal connection to this case. I was raised by my momma and I’m thankful and appreciate her for the great mother she is and great job she did raising me as a single mom during my younger years .. But on the other hand, I remember at that same age, being a young boy wanting to live with my father, always looking for him. And hoping he would come take me to live with him or even come see me… Only difference my pops was living his life(in another state) but was going through his own stuff, he couldn’t be the father i needed at that time.. This a tough one for me, I don’t agree with how he handled it, I think he should have ask her, maybe drove down and had a face to face discussion with her and their son and not just called her & told her what he was going to do… but I see nothing wrong with a man raising his son especially at that age, that’s when we need our fathers the most!!!
I agree !! I have two boys and I I want them to both have father figures in their life and I don't want 100% of the responsibility I don't want my kids to hover over me and only think I'm there for them I want them to know they have both parents in their life and I need to trust that the father can make them into the man they need to be
I can't stand when the judge went off on the mother she didn't do a damn thing wrong! She let her son go to his father for a month and he was dead wrong for keeping him like that Hasn't been around for the kid she's been raising him alone for 12 yrs yet the judge went off on the mother
She was ok with him visiting his dad, and yes he does have rights. So now you want him when he’s 12 and you don’t have to get up every 2-3 hrs and feed him, change his diapers, stay out of work when he’s stick, find a babysitter, take him to all his events, help him with his homework, make him happy when he’s sad, provide a roof, food, clothes for him 10-11 months a year. Instead of saying thank you 🙏🏾 you wanna just take him and keep it pushing. I’m glad she got full custody, you were wrong. You can’t talk to him, how do you think she felt when she couldn’t talk to him. Yes you love him and he is your son, but you don’t get to do crap like that and think it’s gonna be sweet afterwards. And the stepmom needs to sit down this has nothing to do with her. Your husband did wrong.. ridiculous
The good thing to know at this point is that if he was born in 1999 the son is 25 years old and a grown man now. He can make his own decisions. We won’t get to see or know the truth but the real parent has definitely shown up in his life. Lmfao and the child also knows the truth. She drove to pick her son up but when it’s time for him to step up he can’t make it to fight for custody, or make it to the child’s house?
Divorced parents,should forget how much they hate each other,over the more they love their kid// kids...Its not fair,I.m 66,and I.m one of them kids..😢😢
What a shame..... their son likely manipulated both parents.... commonly at his age..... they don't want to follow mom's rules and dad'seems so much better. Shame on father.
@@sheraps9763knocked it off, I raised all 4 of my children by myself. And I know a bunch of single father’s handling their business solo. Stop acting like only women can handle that. Most of you women would be homeless and hungry with y’all children if it wasn’t for government assistance, so knock it off!
Judge M was wrong on this one. Being in and out of his life for 12 years and then taking the kid without intentions to return him is insane. She even asked him to see her child and he refused. She seems like she's willing to work with him. He's a pathological liar and Ray Charles can see that!!!!
9:36 - I’m glad the judge said this. Women have no more right to children than the fathers do. *Stop using the system as a weapon against men who want to be in their children’s life* It’s sickening.
No, that's not how this case works. She did in fact have a right to file kidnapping charges. He not only decided to keep the child, but he refused for her to spend a few seconds seeing the child, when court says she had custody of the child. It's different if they were sharing him, but he went against the law to keep the child away. Yet, she didn't do that to him! All she mentioned was that she had a right to do that when he pulled that mess, just to try and get out of paying cs.
@@dbabies82 hi.. you are wrong!.. she could only do that if.. she has sole custody!.. you can not kidnap your own baby.. if. there is no.. custody agreement! .. is it kidnapping.. when female.. just up and leaves... and take the baby ???..be blessed
@@Cubanflowers Did you not listen to the case? Literally, even the judge admitted, he had ZERO right to take the child, and that the officers were wrong in saying he had the right, bc the courts said SHE had custody. And she can do that if there is joint custody, and it is her designated time! In fact, you can file kidnapping charges and tell the courts, which can put the person who took the child in contempt and the courts can throw them in jail, while also give the original party full custody! The difference between your fake analogy and this situation, is that she had custody! It's why he had to pay child support. How are you all not understanding that! He didn't care about getting the child UNTIL child support came in, and then all of a sudden he wanted the child.
Agreed! But the adults have to have conversations with each other and work it out. The kids in the end always suffer when parents can't come to a mutual agreement.
The mother is not wrong she allowed him to get his son on breaks without a court order all these years and now the father trying to put on a show. He needed to return the child to the mother and went to court after for joint custody and visitation. Of course he would be the fun parent he doesn’t see him often unlike his mother who is hands on with him.
Agree but Milian going by law.
Now the kid has the upper hand because the parents are not in sync
Sounds like the issue isn’t that he’s the fun parent. If what the dad says is true, it sounds like the son doesn’t like to be home by his self a lot and with his dad he has his step brothers and the wife. Seems like mom is a single parent so she probably does work a lot . I’ve been that child . It gets rather boring and mundane
Kyrie1551 you said that so right, mom is properly the more strick parent because of school, bedtimes, and homework. So dad seems to be fun one during summer vacation. I am going through this with my grandson whom I am raising and his dad. He's the fun dad, gets him on weekends and every other week in summer.
If I understood it right, there was no custody order in place and she went and got one when things went the wayt they did. Both parents were in the wrong if that was the case.
The fact that the dad didn't make the Court date speak volumes of his love n concern for the son.
Actually it doesn't, people are only human at the end of the day. I'm sure he regrets it!
Exactly. I get struggling financially but if I’m fighting for my kid I’m taking a $40 bus ride if that’s what it takes.
100%. He didn't even bother all that chaos and confusion for nothing.
And, I'm steady paying child support (for which he should pay) anyway. When 12 yr. Old states "I don't want to return to Alabama" The father should have immediately contacted mom.
Adults/Parents do what is best for the child. This trauma will last a lifetime
@@patticake7297 You are all right but unfortunately everyone's brain don't function the same way. We make mistakes as humans and that's why we have laws.
She should gone to Judge Judy!!!
This verdict is BS!!! She’s a single mother traveling to pick up her son, twice!!! He couldn’t make it to court because lack of gas money!! He tried to keep his son to prevent paying child support.
Agree, JJudy would say walk down, take the bus , dont say you had no car
How can he support another child and he didn’t even have the money to travel for court? So he say😒
lol! Good point!
He most likely wanted to get her to pay him child support. My deadbeat ex tried that. This man has been paying support, which is great. He would have filed to now have her pay support. I'm not saying that's wrong! Just that's most likely what he was thinking financially.
Welfare, we the working class pay...... and pay..........and pay more...............
He's broke
Where has he been for 12 years.? He was absolutely wrong. Yes he was the fun parent while the mom been working probably and raising him by herself. Smh
He didn’t want to pay maintenance AH
and I would bet money that stepmom aka pickmeisha played a role in all this too.
how do we know she aint been keeping him from the dad we only seen 20min of it and yall siding with her yall aint shite
She traveled across the country for her son.
He did not go to Alabama to go to court.
All I need to know.
righttttttt
THIS!!!!
Thank you!
The amount of effort almost always reflects the importance/interest
@@scotthewitt258 exactly which lets us further kno this was a bs attempt to get out of paying child support & when the rubber met the road he cldnt even show up for court for an action he started!!! His actions were not valid nor were his intentions pure and for that he will surely reap what he sows!!!
You’re right
How can she ignore the fact that she had a court order before she drove down there and they IGNORED IT! There should be some penalty for that. SMDH
Did yall hear he was in and out of the childs life.
All of a sudden he decides ok i wanna keep him. Joke😅
People always dote on a father for doing the very bare minimum
yeap, right after they came from child support court. it's bc he doesn't want to pay cs. he's using the child to not pay.
So..if the boy wants to be with dad respect it he the father
@@bongoikno4994 I disagree because children do not always know what they need.
@StarC2233 either parent can do the job and at 12 moms role is over its father time she was mad at him taken the boy not his parenting abilities
For everyone who doesn't get it... the father just didn't want to pay child support, so came up with a way to not have to pay. It's that simple. Everything else is a lie and him manipulating the situation. It's why he brought it up when he came up with an excuse for why he didn't go to court. He would have fought for his child, if he really wanted him (simply just show up to the court alone)... but I can tell exactly why he wanted the child... and it was bc of child support.
And JM is wrong for going after that lady when she said she could have pressed charges for kidnapping. SHE SHOULD HAVE! He decided to take the child against court orders, and then when all she wanted to do was see him for a few seconds, he refused. So she had every right to go to court and complain. He did in fact do everything wrong.
Preach… JM is tripping . The father is obviously not being genuine
Y’all sound stupid
Child support but also, a lot of times when men are with women with kids, all of a sudden they want to step up and show that they want their kids as well. I’ve seen it happen so often.
The fact he pulled this and sis not communicate with the mother about what the child wanted. He has no respect for the mother of his child and teaching the son to lack respect as well cuz wtf who does this.
And he even said o couldn't go to court and fight for custody bc I didnt have any money cuz im taking care of my son and paying child support paying for his schooling ge disnt have any clothes etc like boy u caused all that on urself by pulling this stunt. It was most def to not pay child support
A parent cannot kidnap their own child however, it’s counter productive to the term
Dad didn't have the funds to travel for court but he wants custody of a child that he would have to provide for 🤦🏾♀️... what a clown
This comment!
I felt like the judge didn't hear the mother at all. They agreed on a visitation time. When it was time for the child to come back to the mother, the father refused to send him back. The mother went to court and got an order. She THEN drove to MICHIGAN from ALABAMA to get the child. Once there the school, police, lawyer, and father ignored a court order and she left without the child. The father 100% should have reimbursed her for wasted time, gas, amd any hotel room(s). I could agree wtih the judgment if she had just went without the court order but she didnt do that. There are a lot of questions that are unanswered as well for example, How long has the child been in the mothers sole custody? How long have the parents been split up? Who moved away from who? If the father wanted to be there, he 100% would not have missed that court date.
It seems the child always lived with his mother, the mother said the relationship between the father and she was long distance from the beginning. She also said he was in the childs life "OFF and On" "come visit from time to time"
Its common sense a damn CHILD wants to be at the FUNHOUSE….
That Part!!!
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On summer break
Fun, Fun, Fun
With another 11 year old
Or maybe his at the age when he needs to be around his pops and his 4 brothers.
EX-FKN-Xactly
@@antoniojames9493totally agree he want to be around his father doing things probably other kids he sees doing with their dad not sit in the house playing video games. She doesn’t have more rights to that child
He kept the child from her, yet the judge berated the mother lol
She berated her for not handling visitation in the beginning, is what I thought she was doing…
Because the child has TWO parents not one. She has no more right to the child that he does.
@@Tahiha will then he should be more responsible and actually show up to the court. He just didn't want to pay child support anymore.
@@Tahiha exactly. So why would there be no penalty for him keeping the child from the mother? He was the one creating a problem where there was no problem. He had no right to keep the child from her.
@Tahiha but when did you hear the mother had more rights in this case? The father wasn't as present... the mother was allowing him to see his child to take his child.
The father was wrong. You absolutely need to talk to the other parent before you just decide you won’t return a child you share. It’s wrong to leave someone worried sick. Have an adult discussion about custody or he should have tried to get full custody.
100% agree! Well said!
SHOTS FIRED AND ALL BETS ARE OFF. The father was wrong and Judge M was out her mind yelling at mom. The boy was going there every summer. She’s not keeping him from his child and they were able to come
To an agreement without court for 11 years??? He was tired of paying child support and someone gave him that dumb idea. If it was genuine he would have had a real conversation with mom and she may have worked out something. That was low down to do that.
This guy doesn’t care about his child. He just wants out of his child support, if he really cared he would’ve been there more and at-least would’ve fought for the split custody with her. Sorry dude, showing up for your child’s birthday ain’t gonna cut it as a father.
This part… hes being slick n JM fell for it
That's all people are saying child support no be careful women for what you think and say I was in a situation that I wanted to be with my dad because he was the caring parent and my mom was the abuser stop thinking child support all the time because it's not always the case we have done great dads out here so stop if you don't know the actual facts !!!! 😮😮😮😮
@@angeemontague5031Not one time did you hear him say the mom was a bad mom. Y'all be emotional because you've been through situations. Your situation isn't every situation. It's case by case. This mom was being the responsible one while he was in and out of the boy's life at will but soon as she put him on child support then he tried to pull the okey doke. Learn to share your experiences without judgement based on how you were mistreated.
I've been in the mom's shoe's with my son's father and he spread lie's about me to his Mom and when we ended up going to Court he refused to acknowledge my child even though I had to prove it. Then he kept it up and signed away his Rights to my son. He even tried to have a grand jury dig up my son because he got caught in his lie's. I made every attempt to be liberal with him about seeing my son and sharing custody but he refused and I got that put in the custody order. And he never tried to remove my son again
The courts favor the mother. The judges take their cut of the child support. This is a racket and judges know it
As a child of divorce, we always want to be at the home that's more fun and has less rules.
Exactly. I was the strict parent and the Dad was Disneyland Dad.
True but that may not be the case here.
@@DaishaView I agree....especially the way the plaintiff ended her interview lol...
Of course and that’s how you grow up with bad habits and multiple kids
Story of my childhood.
Wow , the verdict wasn't right. That mom is alone and fighting for her son after 12 years of raising him mainly solo and this man and his new woman gets off scott free? Nah
Not mainly solo at all. Black women need to stop having children solely as a child support payment. She's awful!
How do you know what he's done for his son
IT WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT...NEITHER ONE OF THEM HAD CUSTODY OF THE CHILD. SHE DIDN'T ESTABLISHED CUSTODY UNTIL DEC. & THAT'S WHEN HE TURNED THE CHILD OVER. LIKE THE JUDGE SAID HE HAS JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO HIS CHILD AS SHE DOES. THAT'S WHY THE POLICE, PRINCIPAL AND LAWYER TOLD HER THAT SHE COULDN'T TAKE THE CHILD WHEN SHE CAME UP TO MICHIGAN TO BRING HIM BACK TO ALABAMA.
@chelseablack boy acting up. Bad grades.....shii what good is she doing? Seems like she can't handle him. She better be like Trae moma on Boyz in the Hood and let daddy have him for a while.
@@QuintonWhite-tq5hd where he should land isn't the point though. He was in and out of his life. Now he's the fun dad with other siblings whereas the mom has to work and is probably stricter. I think if the Dad had communicated properly then this could have been avoided. I would have believed him more had he turned up at court but he couldn't be bothered
Im confused. .. she had a child support order. On that order since the young man lived with his mother... it automatically made her the custodial parent. By this definition he did kidnap the child he did not have legal custody of.
By law you can’t kidnap your own child. That’s why he didn’t get locked up.
@@Vanessa_MartinezDepends on your state. In my state, that would be kidnap.
@@Vanessa_Martinezwell unfortunately you are wrong because I am a single father here in Michigan and when I let my daughter's mother take her out for the day while she was visiting from out of state and hadn't seen her daughter long time and sparingly when she did and the mother took off with my daughter out of state and kept her I had to take her to court and so forth and of course they said I couldn't charge her with kidnapping so I asked them what if I was the one that did this to her what would happen to me and they told me to my face that I could be charged with kidnapping even though I had full custody and still do and by the way I raised my daughter primarily by myself ever since and I've had a practically all her life and she's doing great I'm so blessed but the law here in Michigan is kind of messed up however I will admit that was almost 20 years ago
@@Vanessa_Martinezyou can, there’s a law after a man kidnapped his son and took his to china and the mother had to travel to get her son
@@Vanessa_Martinez Take it from me... My brother tried this with his daughter, he took her from New Orleans to Atlanta where he leaves and tried pulling this same card that this guy did. All in an effort to absolve himself of paying child support, he coerced my niece. Long story short the mother could have pressed charges against my brother for kidnap once he took her to another state without her mother's consent which is illegal where I'm from.
Unbelievable. Of course child wants to be with “fun parent” who only vacation parents 🤦🏻♀️
A parent is at liberty to be whatever kind of parent they want to be (as long as they’re not harming the child physically or mentally), including being a FUN parent. It’s not their fault if you’re the miserable sour parent.
The fun parent can also be a good parent.
Right, no discipline, and all fun. What he did may not have been illegal, but it was disrespectful and is not okay to do that to another parent or a child.
So easy to be the fun parent for sure. The every other weekend parents think they know best
Boys belong with their dad get over it yes children love their dads
I’m confused 🤔 why she yelling at the mom. ??
For years I've read comments about her talking down to black women.. and there have been times where I was thinking. Maybe something more happened they didn't show. But here. I do not care... I've seen her talk nicer to very rude people. It was u called for. The mother wasn't stopping that father from seeing his son.. the father needs a 2nd job to get his money up. His son needs his love
@ehizogieimasuen9565 Thank you she is very nasty and goes to far to me she power trips alot thts why I could not watch her whn she was on TV and am from NYC the mother had no problems wth the dad she sent him for the summer to me he wnted out of tht child support order Periodt ppl think it's not about tht but for sure it was he remarried and the wife had her two children one being a 19 yr old so make it make since his child's mother is in another state working and being a single mom this was not about the child being his or hers it was solely to cut cost not paying child support so his new household will have more money it's easier to take care of a child without having a order in place he didn't like being told wht he had to pay this case was cut and dry the judge should have gave tht woman the lawsuit she asked for judge Milian has always displayed prejudice to me periodt and I said wht I said it's my opinion thts wht this comment section is for she also give me she wnted to be like judge Judy 😂😂😂😂 it never worked for her it comes off just wht it is she is nasty, phony and prejudice on almost all her cases and she never rules fairly again !!!!!
@@ehizogieimasuen956519 comments it's not from years Adrian
Because behind that bench is the only time she would be able to get away with that foolishness.
Exactly....doing too much. Lights camera action....smh
The father was wrong. He should've handled it legally.
Like we don’t know what happens in court with custody. Women are automatically favored even when the father is a good father. Y’all have weaponized the system against men.
he did he hired a lawyer
Absolutely
Nope if there is no custody agreement he was within his rights to keep his son.
No he wasn’t
She should have got reimbursed for her wasted trip because he could have called mom and said im keeping him here. Also, mom definitely raised him and dad was around when it was convienent thats just a fact. Otherwise, the father would have tried for partial custody long ago and both parents would be cooperating. Sometimes a parent, usually a father, will wait until a child is a teenager to really step up. When the child can take care alone and not need constant supervison.
As soon as the mother left court she went and changed that number.
🤣🤣🤣
Ong 😂‼️
😂😂😂
That’s funny how u thought of that 😂
He’s so wrong for doing that. Co-parenting is done with the parent NOT the child. Now he wants to play victim because she’s doing the same thing he did. Hindering communication. This is so sad for the kid. Stepmom should be ashamed for allowing this to go down.
I get the feeling she encouraged it. baby let's get your son back, we can throw him in with mine and play brady bunch together like that first woman never even existed. I see it all the time
This is exactly why the cops need to know the law
If he had a "warrant" from Alabama, they sure as hell would have acted on it...
He the fun parent. Yall wild for saying the child should have a say. He was fine for 12 years and they shared custody with NO plan in place. Now all of sudden the boy wanna stay with his dad. His dad absolutely put that idea in his head. And he is dead saa wrong.
He not only fun he more loving to she just wants her property smh she toxic
hi.. so.. a baby doesn't grow in age and in mind?.. they are not allowed.. to have a different opinion.. when they get older?.. as far as anybody here knows... he probably eventually went to go live with papi.. please to keep in mind.. this episode.. is yearS old.. baby is probably in university now!.. be blessed
You are absolutely right. The dude messed with the child's mind, manipulating him. He low down and dirty.
Exactly. Only people who lack discernment are blind to this bs.@@Patricia-sf2zk
@@Cubanflowersa 12 year old isnt mature enough to know whats best for him. that dad didnt fight for 12 years for joint custoday at the least. and then couldnt afford to go to Alabama for thr custody hearing. So yall think hes financially responsiblento raise another cbild FULL TIME!!! PKEASE BEQUIET
I really have no idea where the judge is coming from right now lol. The mom didn't deserve to be spoken to & treated that way when she tried to do everything the right & legal way!!! unlike this dad who deserved to be chewed out for his behaviour! everything he did screams "f the terms I'm doing things my way. "
Defendant broke a promise!!! THAT WAS WRONG!!!
But if they agreed for her to come get him on that day, then yes he did cause her to waste her money.
@@toobiasj it’s most definitely his fault if he said come get him on a certain day and when she does he changes his mind. I don’t blame her one bit for going to the school if that’s where her son was at.
His violation was going against their verbal agreement
She didn’t do shit wrong he wrong she let the kid go and visit he decided to pull this mess he did not take care of his business right.
This! He tried to circumvent the process
‼️‼️‼️Exactly...the Judge is off
hi.. neither of them did.. like MISS judge says... they should've took care of this during child support..court!... he did NOTHING wrong.. because.. the mama didn't have sole custody.. therefore... he is with just as much rights as her... you people cant possible.. think you got rights.. with the baby is in womb.. and then when the baby come to the world.. the man.. who CREATED that life. still have to play that rights to choose game with you.. when you dont have.. sole custody!.... amazing how some females.. can think they can just get up and go.. with the baby... without papi permission.. but when papi does it.. .. he is the bad guy!... be blessed..
Everyone that ignored the court order should have been held in contempt, but JM was not wrong. If I were her I'd never let my kid go anywhere with that man again.
@@kimh9420JM couldn't take sides. Parents were sloppy with their business. Mom trusted him, kid playing both sides and Dad did a lot of damage to that relationship.
Don't want to pay the CHILD SUPPORT
Point, Blank, Period.
YOU GOT IT. THE NEW FAMILY IS TOP PRIORITY AND HE CAN'T AFFORD THEM!
This just pissed me off. Why is the judge SO mad at the mom when she’s been the SOLE PARENTS FOR YEARS. And just because he’s the dad, he should just take full custody. Why didn’t the dad try harder to be an active father?! And now the judge is mad at the mom for going through the same order of commands the dad did?! It’s so disgraceful to me how the court allows a dead beat parent (mom or dad) to have so much flexibility. Of course the son is angry! HE MISSES HIS PARENT! This is so sad for the child.
NONE of the points you make actually happened in this episode. Mom and dad were equally in error for how they went about this, but she came down on both of them the same on how they BOTH gotta work together for what’s best for the child. And in imo the child’s opinion should be considered, but by no means should it carry a heavier weight than the adults.
First of all there’s no one parent if there’s no child custody order it’s not her child by her self if he’s being a father why he can’t be a parent just cause in NC child can make a decision on what parent they want to live with
no idea where you are getting that. she was simply pointing out the legal situation. he *had* parental rights when he kept the kid, so she wasn't allowed to just undo it because she's the mom. she should have fought for custody right away (and she's saying the dad should if he wants too) she wants them both to be there...that's good
The son didn't say he wanted to stay. He said, "My DADDY wants me to stay, so I'm going to stay". No son, your Daddy did not want to pay child support any longer. If the Defendant really was putting his son first, he would have done things properly and stress free through mediatiom and court.
Edit: He didn't show up to court because he doesn't really want his kid. And, what kind of BS was he telling the Police to get them to say the court order didn't matter and he should keep the child? Plus, this child is saying he's going to "kill himself"?!? Whaaaaat is going on?!?
She doesn't listen, that was kidnapping for real.
Bad call by the judge,
Nothing stopped him from calling the mother and working something out, so everyone could win. He tried to do a snatch and grab, and you let him get away with it…
The face of the mother says it all! GIVE THAT SON BACK TO HIS MOTHER.
Why take the child to the police station? There was no abuse of the child. He didn't want to pay child support. He can't afford to take care of the child.
My mother and father separated when I was in high school, but they lived right around the corner from each other. We saw each other all the time. No one kept anyone from my dad or my mom. They got along fine and that’s the way it should be.🙏🏾
My ex and I did the same. Our kids walked back and forth between our two homes.
Neither of us even considered moving across town from each other, much less another state.
He will always be the fun dad if he only gets him the summer!! I’m not saying either parent is wrong but it was wrong for dad to make that move!!
Predictable. 🥱
• “Bye! 😒”. She is done!
• Where has the father been prior to year 12? 🤔
I'm really honestly SHOCKED how hard judge Milian was on this mom. The mom did nothing wrong and the dad did things the wrong way. Dad broke the trust.
I think the main key factors flew over some of your heads. 1. Parents who do not have a custody order in play do not "allow" the other parent to do anything. They are both on equal ground regardless of where the child stays. 2. The child said he didn't want to go back with mom (probably because dad is more fun to be around). 3. He consulted a lawyer and the police. 4. Mom waited until she had a court order for full custody, and the father released the child back into her custody. The sad part about this is that the father didn't show up for court after he made the moves he made. Hopefully, they figured out a parenting plan.
i hate when these people say i didn't have any money to do something. dude u got a lawyer and paying for school and you couldn't drive to alabama for court, when the whole is about your child. sell that damn necklace your wearing. so you're telling me you want to keep him, but yet you don't have money to support him.
Milian was straight fowl for the verdict and treating the dad like he was a victim!
Yea she was wrong period!
Courts let the child decide at 12 who they want to stay with in my state, maybe it's the same in their states too and that's why he hollering the child decided it's fun with me, surely the kid said the same thing in previous years during visits if that's how he felt so why didn't the defendant bring it to the plaintiff before, why not just have a conversation with the lady.
Judge Judy would’ve cleared ALL this up
In 30 seconds
I was thinking the same thing
Man no one like her, judge M is usually sooo wrong
The father is too broke to travel yet he wants custody. Id sign over my rights and let his lil azz live with his daddy😂
His new woman didn't want $$$ going to the mother and child. He did not want to pay child support. Typical. This is just vicious.
The father mishandled this situation. It's called communication!!! He breached the verbal arrangement and tried to illegally take the child!! I'm willing to bet during that time he was withholding the child he was ignoring all her calls as well so why when behaves just like him he wants to cry wolf. Nothing about this woman came off bitter or malicious. The child wasn't in danger or being mistreated so why take that route. It was unnecessary and precalculated. Any child would be upset if their parents were always going back and forth. At 12 you have no maturity to make decisions of that magnitude. The father could have went about this differently.
Like my mom use to say and she said this often: "Be careful who you have children with!" I've always taken that statement to heart!
I still say that!
I also don’t think judge Milan is being objective. To presume that a mother is fearful of her son having contact with dad is insulting because she sent the child to live with him for the summer which was the agreement. I’m not sending my child anywhere I feel he would be in danger… unfortunately they are not actively coparenting. They are in fact sharing a child. Sad
Its telling that at the end the dad says he will see him on his bday but doesnt mention going to court or fighting for more visitation rights.
@@leddoandroidgirl 🛎️ 🛎️ 🛎️ cause Sir, you still haven’t been to no one’s courthouse to fight to see your son. You’re the one keeping yourself from your son. 🤷🏽♀️
hi.. ten minute edited show.. that took place YEARS ago... .. but look and see you know.. this man entire biography ..and what kind of relationship.. he has .. with his son.. who is now..probably off to college... that papi is paying for...be blessed
The parent receiving child support is the custodial parent.
If Dad went to a lawyer and the police why didn't he tell the mother? He's exaggerating. This is financial and fun based
All I can say if he was so concerned he would have found a away to go to court 🤷🏽♀️
I would've lost my DAMN mind if ANYONE tried to take my child from me. I raised my son...yes his Dad was in his life but I raised him and there would've been hell to pay if his Dad had pulled this sh*t on me!!!! If it was so important for this man to have his son he would've went to COURT!
Bitter women comment alert 🚨
I can tell you’d be a nightmare to coparent with.
You seem to think he's only her child.. Its his child too.
Wow my mother always said people wouldn’t know how stupid you are if you keep your mouth shut
It’s not YOUR childI. The child belongs to BOTH parents. Women don’t have any more rights to their children than fathers do. If there is no court order you have no more rights to custody than the father. There is zero indication here that he was harming the child in any way. It’s *HIS child too*
Am I missing something. They said they didn’t have a problem with each other until the Dad said he wasn’t bringing him back. Why was JM making it seem like they were having issues?
With all this advice this judge is giving about what the parents should and shouldn’t do, you’d think she’d have an awareness of how offensive it is to refer to black people as “you people”. 🙄
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Give me a break 🙄 Stop making everything a race issue when it’s not
It’s offensive to say “you people” to ANYONE regardless of race!!! Can’t we all just be colored blind for crap sake! Ugh
Yall are insane! If I send my baby with his father for the summer and the agreement is that he comes home for the school year and his father UNILATERALLY decides to keep my child - he's wrong! You can't just break our agreement because he says he wants to stay. Talk to me about it so we can make a decision as a unit.
Judge i was with you until you said the dad did nothing wrong. It nay not have been illegal but it was wrong
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The judge was definitely on one. I am sure she wouldn’t feel that way if she was told that her child wasn’t returning after thinking your child was only going for a summer break.
She meant he didn’t do anything wrong legally. He didn’t. There was no court order.
@@thesoloallianceTHEIR child. It’s HIS child too. This mentality of women that they “own” the children needs to stop
You listen selectively. She immediately said she didn’t advise what the did.
He’s not going to go to court for his son. He just wanted out of child support.
I do not agree with berating the mother. She doesn't treat her spn like property, she allowed him to spend a full month with his father and he decided not to return him. Yes, the father has rights but that doesn't mean he can uproot him from his primary home
Dad the defendant doesn't want to pay child support period why start & stir the pot only to NOT follow process through then complain abt lack of financial resources just traumatized his son even more. Won't admit he made a poor emotional decision without a long term plan or monetary responsibility. Now he's a so called victim.
Complete definition of struggle Love
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yeap! Summed it completely up!
hi.. this show was years ago.. i am sure.. he paid the child support...for his now.. college age baby!.. you people just come and assume so much about a stranger.. you don't know these people biography... you females sound like single parents.. and man haterss..who give the fathers the hard time!... be blessed
Welp seems you're doing the same ASSUming in comments by a strangers subjective opinion based upon an observation of the defendants conflicting testimony. You projecting much or maybe ur jus mid bitter broken baby daddy givin ur beta male feels & vibe
@@Cubanflowers Dude is emotionally immature the son's mental health shld've been his #1 priority its a very serious matter. While he's out here simpin for his wife/ another rnans children instead of showing up also fighting to protect his seed. Simple display of cowardly behavior if in fact allegations of self harm are true otherwise he's a Big LIAR & manipulator who used the narrative for police & school in an attempt to gain leverage.
Shame on him plantiff should have prevailed
This happened to me with my son because the dad didn’t want to pay child support so he took my son and thought that I would have to pay him support but when he found out I didn’t have to pay him he told me to come get my son or he would get me arrested for abandonment. I went and picked up my son and he’s now 29 and wants nothing to do with his dad . Divorce can be a menace
This was just wrong on all levels. Mom clearly said that the dad has been in and out their son's life and he didn't dispute that. Now all of a sudden he think he has some entitlement and to a point yes he does because he is the father. But he handled that wrong completely and should have never taken him away like that. That should have been a conversation that he should have brought to mom's attention so that they can come to an agreement or understanding and if they can't then let the courts handle it. He just made a whole decision without including the mom and causing a very stressful situation all the way around. He handled that allll wrong.
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When the father mentioned child support and having to pay for his son's schooling, I said that's the reason he wants custody. The child is 12, and now, all of a sudden, the mother is unfit, and I don't believe it. If the plaintiff was a horrible parent, why did the father not try for custody eleven years ago 🤔
Making a 26 hour dry run, yes the plaintiff should have been giving something. If the arrangement has always been visit your dad for the summer why the hell are you playing games now? Then, can't make the trip to get the child back to his mother when it ordered. And this man really tried to make this woman look like a bad mother. It tickled me when Kurt asked the plaintiff if she had anything to say "bye"
That mom did NOTHING WRONG!!!!!! She went to court and drove states away to get her kid! While the fun part time parent didn’t bother one drive for a court date….. bless her and god give her strength
I feel like this lady would have worked this out with the dad if he had even attempted to ask and work it out.
Me too I agree.
Father was completely wrong! Why wouldn’t he have a conversation with his son and advise him to go home; then communicate with the mother about a joint arrangement.
Yeah I don’t agree with JM on this one. They agreed for the child to come and go on certain dates. He decided unilaterally to keep the child. She didn’t go down there acting a fool, she went to court got all her ducks in a row and went to get her son. Clearly he didn’t have the child’s best interest in mind bcuz the boy said he doesn’t get to see his mom, yet after she did all of that to get him back and he refused, all she asked was that she see him and he said no??? To the mother that’s raised him and is fighting for him? That was cruel smmfh. She should have gotten back every penny she spent in travel to get her son. If not from him, then from the city since their cops don’t respect court orders…
There is a right way and a wrong way. If you're a parent you don't move states away!
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hi.. its like you never did here.. when mama say they had a long distance love affair...? and you are so right... i say the same thing.. to all these females.. who love pick and pack their babies.. take them to different states.. never once asking father's permission to take the life HE created states away!... be blessed
@@CubanflowersShe carried that child and delivered the child. The father should be the one to move 🤷♀️
@@froglog1002she didn’t get pregnant alone you simpleton!
The dad should have talked to the mom, letting her know what her son wants and hammer it out for more time for his visit with his dad. Then support each other knowing their son is loved by both and that they can all stay friendly . It's so better for the kid
There’s nothing wrong with the father wanting to step up but he was completely out of line for how he went about it. If the son did express that he wanted to stay with the father, it was the father’s responsibility to have a conversation with the mother and discuss the situation. Him just deciding to uproot the kid from the unofficial custodial parent was outrageous.
He wanted some sympathy so bad. but he was wrong and so was the police and lawyer
Lool 😂
How exactly was he wrong. Absolutely nothing he did was illegal.
@@sdowns8302 Actually, everything he did was illegal. Did you not watch the case? The mother had custody of the child, and he tried to keep the child away from her. She did in fact had a right to press kidnapping charges against him, but chose not to. She's been more than fair. He has been in and out of the childs life and ONLY decided he wanted the child when he had to start paying child support. Now all of a sudden he wanted full custody? Yet didn't even show up to court to get visitation rights? Did y'all not watch the case?
This father supposedly was willing to do whatever he could to make his child happy, but he couldn't show up to the scheduled court date? Or subsequently file for joint custody or, at the bare minimum, scheduled visitations? He hasn't seen him and has only spoken to him twice since this occurred. I'm very confused about his motives, based on his lack of action since.🤔
The mom initially had nothing but good intentions by letting her son go by his dad for 1 month. The dad was 100 percent wrong by not returning him, which means he did not uphold the end of his bargain. It is illegal to take a child to another state without the parents' consent. It seems every was gaslighting the mother by saying that's his son too, when she never had any issues prior to the dad keeping the child. Doesn't make sense/.
Ma’am if they’re is no custodial order she is the primary parent. JM gets on my nerves. And the fact that the FATHER couldn’t bother to show up for court at that point she was granted full custody she gets her child back!
She’s a dunce forreal
As a parent with full custody in Alabama, a child support order & custody order are two separate matters. That’s why it wasn’t kidnapping. The Dad was dead wrong! He didn’t want his son fr, he didn’t want to pay child support. I feel for the mother, i went through this exact situation except the father was in Alabama, didn’t want to pay child support & ended up trying to keep the kids. I proved that I’d had them all of their lives and he worked 7 days a week so I wasn’t sure how he’d be of his emotional and mental support working 7 days a week. Won full custody. His house was the fun house. My house there are rules & guidelines to follow. He was 12 & impressionable, I’m sure his Dad convinced him to want to stay. Not to mention, if mom had to work to provide, of course you won’t see her 24/7. Since Dad didn’t have the funds to travel to and from Alabama, it sounds like he’s living off of the wife.
This is the EXACT reason why I believe unless y’all are a couple/married you GO TO COURT AND GET FULL CUSTODY!
This happen to my sister!! She allowed my nephew to go with his dad for the very first time in the summer. He then decided he wasn’t sending him back, come to find out he just no longer wanted to pay child support any longer! so he thought if he kept him it would go away. Nope!! the judge saw right through his mess and returned him back to my sister and made the dad pay back pay!
I love how passionate Judge Milian is about family.❤🇨🇦
She was acting dumb that day.
@@EChristian329She was completely wrong in this case.
Completely wrong! I hate when she tries to attack someone instead of sticking to the law. This was a verbal agreement and he broke the agreement
Notice when he's with mom, then he gets to see dad, but when he's with dad, he's completely separated from mom, not allowed to see her. That's NOT best for the child. He just did this to weasle his way out of paying child support.
Funny how when the dad wanted to talk to the son and the mon denied judge got angry with her, but what about when the dad denied the mom a chance to see the boy
Right, jm missed so many points.
He was being spiteful in not sending the child back, he should've been able to have a matured conversation in reference to custody of the son
Honestly this a hard one for me to comment on without having a personal connection to this case. I was raised by my momma and I’m thankful and appreciate her for the great mother she is and great job she did raising me as a single mom during my younger years .. But on the other hand, I remember at that same age, being a young boy wanting to live with my father, always looking for him. And hoping he would come take me to live with him or even come see me… Only difference my pops was living his life(in another state) but was going through his own stuff, he couldn’t be the father i needed at that time.. This a tough one for me, I don’t agree with how he handled it, I think he should have ask her, maybe drove down and had a face to face discussion with her and their son and not just called her & told her what he was going to do… but I see nothing wrong with a man raising his son especially at that age, that’s when we need our fathers the most!!!
I agree !! I have two boys and I I want them to both have father figures in their life and I don't want 100% of the responsibility I don't want my kids to hover over me and only think I'm there for them I want them to know they have both parents in their life and I need to trust that the father can make them into the man they need to be
I can't stand when the judge went off on the mother she didn't do a damn thing wrong! She let her son go to his father for a month and he was dead wrong for keeping him like that
Hasn't been around for the kid she's been raising him alone for 12 yrs yet the judge went off on the mother
Here JM is again yelling at the wrong person 🙄
She was ok with him visiting his dad, and yes he does have rights. So now you want him when he’s 12 and you don’t have to get up every 2-3 hrs and feed him, change his diapers, stay out of work when he’s stick, find a babysitter, take him to all his events, help him with his homework, make him happy when he’s sad, provide a roof, food, clothes for him 10-11 months a year. Instead of saying thank you 🙏🏾 you wanna just take him and keep it pushing. I’m glad she got full custody, you were wrong. You can’t talk to him, how do you think she felt when she couldn’t talk to him. Yes you love him and he is your son, but you don’t get to do crap like that and think it’s gonna be sweet afterwards. And the stepmom needs to sit down this has nothing to do with her. Your husband did wrong.. ridiculous
The good thing to know at this point is that if he was born in 1999 the son is 25 years old and a grown man now. He can make his own decisions. We won’t get to see or know the truth but the real parent has definitely shown up in his life. Lmfao and the child also knows the truth. She drove to pick her son up but when it’s time for him to step up he can’t make it to fight for custody, or make it to the child’s house?
“is there anything you wanna say before you go?”
“bye” 😂😂😂
Divorced parents,should forget how much they hate each other,over the more they love their kid// kids...Its not fair,I.m 66,and I.m one of them kids..😢😢
hi.. sweetie.. so far best comment yours!.. i can tell you are a person full of sense!..be blessed
Confused. You can't call if you do not have the number. So how was she not answering the phone.?
What a shame..... their son likely manipulated both parents.... commonly at his age..... they don't want to follow mom's rules and dad'seems so much better. Shame on father.
There was no original custody but she clearly had PHYSICAL CUSTODY. He did NOT have the right to keep the child
Let him go with the dad. He will be back. If you don’t, he’s going to hate you.
Right. Let the dad see how hard it is to raise a child and when it gets hard dad will be calling .
That's what I said, sign over her rights and enjoy the freedom until 😂
@@sheraps9763knocked it off, I raised all 4 of my children by myself. And I know a bunch of single father’s handling their business solo. Stop acting like only women can handle that. Most of you women would be homeless and hungry with y’all children if it wasn’t for government assistance, so knock it off!
Judge M was wrong on this one. Being in and out of his life for 12 years and then taking the kid without intentions to return him is insane. She even asked him to see her child and he refused. She seems like she's willing to work with him. He's a pathological liar and Ray Charles can see that!!!!
How dare this man! There is a right way and a wrong way to go about things! He wanted to stop paying child support, plain and simple.
hi.. you sound like a wicked bitter.. mother.. who hates men... yes.. sweetie.. you do.. be blessed
So she will allow her son to be in a suicidal state just as long as she stays in control.
9:36 - I’m glad the judge said this.
Women have no more right to children than the fathers do. *Stop using the system as a weapon against men who want to be in their children’s life* It’s sickening.
Facts! It is sickening but they are unhinged, it's normal behaviour for them.
No, that's not how this case works. She did in fact have a right to file kidnapping charges. He not only decided to keep the child, but he refused for her to spend a few seconds seeing the child, when court says she had custody of the child. It's different if they were sharing him, but he went against the law to keep the child away. Yet, she didn't do that to him! All she mentioned was that she had a right to do that when he pulled that mess, just to try and get out of paying cs.
@@dbabies82 hi.. you are wrong!.. she could only do that if.. she has sole custody!.. you can not kidnap your own baby.. if. there is no.. custody agreement! .. is it kidnapping.. when female.. just up and leaves... and take the baby ???..be blessed
@@Cubanflowers Did you not listen to the case? Literally, even the judge admitted, he had ZERO right to take the child, and that the officers were wrong in saying he had the right, bc the courts said SHE had custody.
And she can do that if there is joint custody, and it is her designated time! In fact, you can file kidnapping charges and tell the courts, which can put the person who took the child in contempt and the courts can throw them in jail, while also give the original party full custody!
The difference between your fake analogy and this situation, is that she had custody! It's why he had to pay child support. How are you all not understanding that! He didn't care about getting the child UNTIL child support came in, and then all of a sudden he wanted the child.
Agreed! But the adults have to have conversations with each other and work it out. The kids in the end always suffer when parents can't come to a mutual agreement.