There are multiple discrepancies in this episode. For full story, read “ The Evil Love” by Geoffrey Wansell, published in 1996. There is also fantastic blog: “ The Needle Pulls the Thread: Barefoot Child- The Life of Heather West”. Google it. I’ve read everything there is on West’s and timelines prove that Rose didn’t kill little Charmaine: Fred did. Also with Shirley Robinson: she wanted Fred to marry her & Rose convinced Fred to kill Shirley. There is plethora of evidence connecting West’s to protected paedo rings & murder & dismemberment patterns show satanic /occult connections. Another great books are “ The Corpse Garden” and “ Fred and Rose”( lookthem up on Amazon).
@@emzkoe3904 The choice of world is correct, for a dispicable woman. Its like gold diggers say stable when they mean rich. Stable just means as they like it.
@@emzkoe3904 The motivations of the woman are what they are regardless. If an abused woman won't leave her husband because she doesn't want him to stop loving her, it's still the reason why, even though he doesn't love her anyways. You would still say she doesn't want to leave because she doesn't want him to stop loving her. It's her reason if shes wrong or not
I had a brush with Fred West during the 1970s. I was driving on the A40, now M40, West of Carmarthen. I noticed that cars ahead of me were slowing down, and avoiding something in the road. As I got nearer, I saw a boy, perhaps 10-12 years old, running amongst the traffic in utter terror, being chased by a man, who was kicking out viciously at him. I stopped my car, yelled at the man to stop kicking at the boy, but he took no notice. I grabbed him, gave him a "dead leg" to sober him up, and pushed him to the ground away from the road, out of harm's way. I tried to comfort the boy, but he was crying desperately, and I could not get any sense out of him. The man said, in a strong West country accent, "It's all right - he suffers from asthma", which sounded a strange excuse for making such a vicious attack. I told him to be quiet, then flagged down a car, asking the driver to call the police from the next house, as there had been an incident. The police eventually turned up, I described what had happened. The man said his name was Frederick West. I gave the police my details, fully expecting to be called as a witness, but I heard no more about the matter, until I saw the man's distinctive "monkey face" in the papers years later.
I think he was more frightened than badly hurt. He was still sobbing when I left him with the police. I fully expected to be contacted by the police as a witness. I don't know who the boy was, I asked him if the man (whom I now know a lot more about) was his Dad. He said that he was not, but was too upset to tell me anything else. Strangely, I had been a witness to a similar incident when I was a child, with my Dad. This did result in a Court case, and my Dad was required to give evidence. I thought that the same would happen this time.
A dead leg clearly wasn't enough...if only you'd been a mind reader that day. Doesn't surprise me the police didn't get back to you I remember wasting time calling them over some horrors that were going on back then and they'd just brush it off, now they have the excuse that they're busy looking for online hate crime against criminals! Useless is to Kind a word.
Like everybody else, the police have probably got to fill in so many forms and do risk assessments before they actually get down to doing what they are supposed to, that they are left with very little time for real work. I am glad I am now a pensioner and free from all of that.Just back from an 11 mile stroll in my local (Pentland) hills - certainly beats working! Yes, if I had known that he was a serial murderer and sadist, then a dead leg would have been rather inadequate. However, at the time my concern was to get him out of the road, and to stop him kicking the boy. He had clearly lost control, either he or the boy could easily have been killed by traffic. What did surprise me was that only I stopped my car and sorted the situation out. Surely, some of those who just drove on must have been young men - how could they just ignore a terrified boy being abused?
I've seen a lot of speculation that some of the humanoid cryptids are actually legends about serial killers. "that village over there is inhabited by people cursed by the wendigo." Or maybe they're just cannibals.... Actually proper cannibal societies tended to have a concept of who could be eaten. They had a concept of murder, they just only applied it to their society, and outsiders weren't.
I don't care if the mother of the children suffered in certain incidents. She should be treated as a accomplice and not given the benefit of ignorance; especially if they are in the same house!
They don't execute people in the UK but she's sentenced to what we in the US call "life without possibility of parole". If she'd done any of this in Texas, she'd be a dead bitch by now!
At least she got sent to prison for the rest of her life. Karla Bernardo was another partner of a killer--a partner in the fullest sense of the word--and she got out after 12 years.
I don't understand it either. Children are so innocent and special. I could never, ever even think of hurting my daughter. These aren't human - they're demonic animals. They should have been executed on the spot.
@@andyraison7131 I understand the anger but they were/are human, labels like "demonic" are simplistic and show a certain amount of ignorance. Fred never stood a chance, massive head injury coupled with his own rape as a child by both mother and father set him up to be the immoral sociopath he became. Rose being raped as a child by her father too didn't necessarily turn her killer but it and meeting/falling in love with Fred sure did. If she had fallen for someone more stable, chances are she never would've killed. They became terrible adults but rearing a child with little to no empathy almost guarantees they'll become sociopathic as adults.
@@MichaelJP Adding to this, pedophilia isn't a well researched mental issue that is understood. While going through such experiences as a kid increases your chances of becoming a pedo, there is very little evidence as to how it originates. Fred repeated what he experienced, but what made his parents do it? Were they born like that, did something psychological happen to them, or did they experience the same thing? Mental illnesses are rarely understood the same way as other illnesses, and I look forward to when it is better understood.
@@danielnodland4072 Wow, thank you for not having Middle Age Ara thinking. Instead of being all like "yeah let's just kill all pedos", why not try understanding it and finding causes to it and rather trying to better prevent it.
Yeah but if you gave me him tied to a chair and locked us in a room... Id borderline sicken you all with the levels of Torture I commit on him. And his Wife.
My question is, what was the scenario in which he was on a ladder two stories up and groping a girl? That seems an odd situation that a groping was going on
@@TheSkyGoat They are actually two different kinds of horrible. But you know one of those saddest things about the Corll case? There are more bodies out there. The police stopped looking after it reached so high because of how bad it looked on their department. There could be families with missing kids that are are still buried in an area where they found all the other bodies but they just quit looking. Well I guess that's not the saddest thing...but its really frustrating and terrible.
This was heart wrenching to hear. I've heard many horrifying stories in my life. But this, I've never heard of such a cold and heartless series of acts committed by any human being till now. Rest assured there is a special place in Hell for those two. May all of their victims, including their own children, finally rest in peace.
yes, it's pretty sickening. and sadly these kind of crimes keeps repeating throughout the history of mankind. different place, different time, different people. it's like a curse, a stigma that sticks to our species. maybe one day... things will be different. on the other note thought, I'm surprised that no "anonymous intellectuals" actually say anything about "hell doesn't exist" and all that evolution mumbo jumbos on this comment section.
I’ve heard about this case before and watched programmes. But learned so much more through this episode as you really explained so much about all the goings on in the family which I never really knew much about. Thank you very much for the great episode.
If his early life was what he said it was, their father probably said he would kill her if she did. Dad wasn't going to jail and she still had to live with him.
I doubt it. As a young offender at the time, he would maybe have gotten 5-10 years, with good behavior that could have become as little as 2-3 served. It would have changed the story and the people involved, but we can't know for certain that it would have changed these factors for the better.
Fred was being protected by the authorities. Because certain people of high standing in the area, we're up to their necks in this case. Some of them were punters of the services that Fred & Rose provided. If she'd persisted, he'd have killed her. There is much more to this case that is not in the public domain. And it's unlikely it'll ever see the light of day.
Thank you for taking the time to say the names of the victims. I remember this case, I always wondered why England hated Myra Hindley more than Rose West who was much worse.
Hindley and Brady were before my time, but I can only assume it was because they murdered actual children. Both she and her partner Ian Brady also tormented the mother of one of their victims by never saying where he was buried. The poor lady eventually died in 2012 (her son was murdered in 1964), never being able to properly bury her son.
Hindley was as bad in her own way. She lured small children to Ian Brady. She had not grown up in an abusive home, unlike Rose West. Hindley was as bad as Rose West
Do you think there could be many more victims, there were alot of girls missing in the 60's, 70's, 80's etc who knows if Fred West is behind these cases. I do suspect he has killed many more women and they could be under allotments or motorways etc.
I loved how most of the other stories on the channel would always end on an eerie note to terrify you, this one actually ends with peaceful music in the background as the poor victim's of these disgusting acts can now finally rest in peace.
That evil pair should have been burned at the stake , this is truly the very worst thing i have ever heard , it is hard to imagine anything more sick and evil than this. Its satanic in its perversity, i do not think i could have sat through all of that as a member of the jury, there is some relief that others did so and found them duly guilty, but mere imprisonment is better than either deserved.
" it is hard to imagine anything more sick and evil than this. " Learn about the Holodomor that started in 1922. Or read the book "Germany must Perish."
I've been a true crime buff for over 40 years and have read about and watched documentaries about some really sick, horrific crimes. But the case of the Wests is one of only a handful that make me physically ill. Killing and cutting up young girls is one thing, but doing it to your own flesh and blood is incomprehensible to most people. I can't remember how I first heard about the crimes of Fred and Rosemary West, but I doubt I read about it in the paper, as I live in America and I guess there were other things more newsworthy (John Wayne Gacy was nearing his execution date, which kept it on the front page, particularly hear in my native Illinois). I've read and seen a lot of horrible things during the years I've studied true crime and I believe that the Wests may be two of only a handful of people that I believe have no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Great video and artwork, as always.
@@IudiciumInfernalum Eugenics is a tool and that it works is a fact. But no I would not support most eugenic policies, they have the possibility to seriously go wrong. Id rather not toy with population genetics. For them to be of any good you would need a well meaning and well informed government that caries them out, I cant say that about any government right now.
I remember hearing about this back in the day and being sickened. After having a daughter, it brings on a whole new level of anxiety and protectiveness. I'm not a religious or superstitious person, but I hope those abused, both living and dead, can rest peacfully.
Love the artwork. The black and white depictions are stark, but detailed just enough to give the right visual reference, and add to the stories. I enjoy the way you present each of these topics and how at the end you offer the different views of possible answers. New subscriber! With the depravity of human society, you shouldn't run out of stories any times soon. =)
Felt weird for “liking” this but this was liked on the basis of not only how well it was made and what a great storyteller you are but also how respectful and how you honored the memories of the West’s victims. This is absolutely true that monsters exist, they don’t always have fangs or glowing red eyes..they can look as human (albeit the Wests were absolutely hideous tho) as you or I...anyways before I get on a soapbox, thank you for this and all the videos you made. I’m hooked on em...they’re just great and very well done, while still remaining very respectful to the victims in the cases that we tend to forget and dehumanize, no matter how strange and scary it might be. Keep up the great work! Also I like to request more stuff on aliens and the men in Black, plz, thanks!
Great departure from your usual stuff- still as disturbing and well-researched as any of your other videos. It's sad to think that horrific crimes like this are still happening all over the world, and people like Rosemary and Fred West still exist. These kinds of stories that needs to be remembered. If we can understand this kind of past evil, then maybe we can prevent it in the future. 'Evil triumphs when good men stand and do nothing'. -Edmund Burke.
+Little Loud: We may be able to use the knowledge gleaned from such cases to help prevent future heinous acts from being carried out, but you cannot stop evil deviants from existing, unfortunately! The world is loaded with self-absorbed compassionless people, who think only of fulfilling their often twisted and petty desires. All we can really hope to do is be wary of, and vigilant to, their cunning and deception.
These moments are one good reason why mind reading and omniscient surveillance better become real life boons in millennia of human history to come... no need for fear, no need for blind and expensive searching.
Yay! My favorite channel posted. Love you guys. My girlfriend and I are sitting down to listen drinking tea and having crumpets. Cheers lads . Glad I am supporting you
I remember hearing the news on the case as a kid back then... hearing the full extent of it now, it's utterly horrifying to realise just how vile these two were, and how their own upbringings likely set them on that path.
Stories like these are always heavy. Life in prison is too good for those monsters. Only a visit from the cenobites would be a little fitting for their crimes
Artemis Arrow Artemis Arrow people are saying death for these people is righteous, but it really isn’t. Think about it, life in prison will have you locked in a cell for the rest of your life _to rot,_ with other prisoners that you do not know. And hell, Child abusers/murderers/rapists are treated worse by the other inmates than by the guards. If you see what the other inmates do to these _monsters,_ it’ll really send a shock.
@@balalaika9114 people in modern prisons become institutionalized. The human mind and body thrives on the strict schedule and meals. Its no more punishment than working a 9-5 job your entire life
This case never fails to horrify me. I think this is one of your best videos to date. Are you planning on doing more murderer/serial killer videos in the future?
As horrific as this story is, and as difficult as it must have been to include it in one of your episodes, I've never heard it told with such compassion for the victims. Thank you for having such deep compassion, and for the sensitive way you presented this terrible story. It made me cry for the hell they must have endured at the hands of the very people they should have been safe with.
when fred raped his underage sister and impragnated her why he was not put in jail? why police didnt took notic of so much dissapearances? why when Heather told her school friends no one came up to help her there are so so many questions raise about this case
He didn't impregnate his sister, but he did rape her and he should have been put in jail, but he can only be put in jail if he is convicted in a court of law. He can only be convicted in a court of law if there is evidence against him. The only evidence was his sister's word and she refused to testify in the end. Most of the disappearances were from areas nowhere near where Fred lived, he used to drive out miles and abduct them from bus stops and pick up female hitchhikers. There was no reason for police to link them back to Fred. However the missing person's cases were kept open, but went cold. You have a point about Heather, but I feel she spoke too late and when concerned people did ask after her welfare, Fred and Rose cooked up this story about her moving to Devon.
In another documentry I heared his sister got pregnant, another charachter we can blame was Caroline Owens who despite being raped didnt presented evidence and stayed silence for long time
waqas ahmad I hope the police 👮♀️ learned a lesson about taking care of familial crimes as well they acted blind towards these criminals who reined for years The joke about the sister under the patio is a big RED flag.....👮♀️
My God. By the end of this episode I started crying and I’m trying to hold in a lot of emotions since I’m at work. Out of all the monsters in the world these two and those like them terrify me the most. I could walk a mile in pitch black darkness and be scared of the unknown, but aliens, slenderman, monthman etc. never put chills through my body like the thought of a human being lurking out there in hopes of killing me. This got to me,having involved children, even more so and now.... I can barely get my shit together. I’m not an atheist, but right now I feel that , we as a species, need Jesus.
That really is heartbreaking. Imagining the helplessness and terror those girls experienced makes me supremely angry and sad. Innocent lives must never be lost like those were. Wish I could've prevented all those senseless deaths. Rest in peace little doves. Nobody can ever hurt you again.
Wow, epic video. Never even heard of this case. What a pair of evil bastards, may they rot in hell. You guys just keep on getting better and better. Keep it up and you'll have a million subs in no time, I really believe that! Can't wait for the next episode!
It seems like someone on high was protecting them. I can't think of any other reason why every single witness reversed their testimony until the bodies had been found
i think people focus a lot on fred west when it was rosemary who was the most violent according to her daughter. someone needs to do a video about her part.
Excellent quality and narration as always. Not sure if you have or take requests but if you could do one on Bobby and Sherilyn Jamison, and their six-year-old daughter Madyson from Oklahoma, that'd be amazing. A very curious unsolved story which happened an hour from where I live
Look up the yorkshire ripper case, Good old 1970 documentary about it,, People blame the head of the investigations why it took a long time to get leads but everyone was working very hard to get this bloke.
Sometimes there are atrocities that seem to hit me in the gut like nothing else, that keep me from becoming too immune and jaded to mourning for those lost to the Evil of this world. This is one of those cases. I'd heard about this case from another channel some months back, and it was the first time I'd encountered it. But it wasn't until watching your video on the West case that I began to feel what anybody should feel at something like this: Despair, Horror, Grief, Shock, Disgust, Contempt, and an ineffable sense of mourning something. I am often terrified by videos like those of Bedtime Stories (and other outstanding channels, like Lazy Masquerade). But although I can get quite emotional consuming various media, I rarely get that way watching these kinds of videos. This analysis was different. By half-way through, I could not stop crying. I'm still crying. The deeply empathic and compassionate manner in which you unpacked these Human Atrocities was so profoundly upsetting to me, because it _should_ be profoundly upsetting. It's the kind of thing that makes you wonder why any of us does anything in our lifetimes other than helping rescue and protect children from the unspeakable Evils of this world. Like my pursuit of anything other than justice for children is somehow immoral, even - for lack of a better word - _blasphemous_ or...something. I wish these comments were more eloquent and articulate. But what can we say when we encounter such unfathomable horrors? in any case, I want to thank you all for this video, but especially because of the only thing - other than tears - that gave me some catharsis from watching this: At the end of the video - 28:35 - your comments about the question of whether Evil - true, abject, midnight black Evil - exists or not. And I so very much needed to hear what you said. About how anybody can know what happened in this case and somehow not accept the reality of Evil (and of course, the converse of Good). Me, and I'm sure many many other viewers, needed to hear this, because it was the exact same question I was asking myself (and answering in the affirmative) during the course of the video. Much as I love the paranormal facets of this channel, you are all clearly adept at addressing the most frightening facets of the _natural_ world with great empathy and care and subtlety. I hope you do more videos in this vein. /apologies for length
Wow !Evil comes in many guises. My heart just cries for the children and women who suffered.R.I.P. I was on the edge of my seat for this one. Great storytelling👍
Thank you for covering this story with the respect and humanity it deserved. I hope you will cover more true crime stories in the future as you are one of the few channels that treats them and the victims involved with the all respect and sobriety they deserve.
I remember when this story came to light, inspiring a wave of sick jokes at my school about Fred getting the children up, accompanied by digging motions. I also remember seeing a TV interview with the surviving children. Absolutely horrifying. Those two were evil incarnate.
The satire magazine VIZ ran a comic strip, "Harold and Fred Make Ladies Dead," where West and serial-killing MD Harold Shipman were cast as bumbling rivals, trying to outdo each other's murder-rates. Sometimes sick humor is a way of whistling past the graveyard of human depravity and evil.
I've seen many tellings of this horrible point in history, and this is the most enthralling, you deserve so many more subscribers than you currently have!
Bedtime stories if you have plans about doing more of true crime stories then I have a few cases to share 1.The murder of junko furuta 2.The murder of Sylvia likens 3.katherine knight 4.the Ukraine maniacs
Varun Pendharkar ~ These are all supremely excellent choices! I have researched all of these very thoroughly and am fascinated with them all. Particularly the Junko Furuta and Sylvia Likens cases. Those poor, poor girls.. i can't fathom the amount of terror and excruciating pain they went through on a daily basis. The very prolonged torture of those two girls, days, weeks and even months (in Sylvia's case) is what makes these cases the most disturbing to me. But, the cases of Katherine Knight and the Ukraine killers are also exceptionally brutal and horrific!!
+Jimmy Biggums: Yep, gotta agree with you regarding that ratio - Bedtime Stories has been expertly executed and will become huge rapidly (I predict)! But, who-the-hell would dislike this excellent effort, I mean, what _is_ there to dislike?!? (It's got to be troublemaker trolls, or idiots who find the subject matter offensive and can't comprehend the intended function of the like/dislike system.)
interesting how this video has fewer views in comparison to the videos that came before and after it. maybe not everybody wants to sit down and watch something for 30mins, but i think stories of true crime can be far more off-putting than paranormal/supernatural events! great work!!
As soon as I heard you read out West's full name, I remembered why the title was so familiar. Those poor girls and children suffering at the hands of such monsters.
no, Your a human being with compassion, a sense of wanting to help even if is past history and I would think a confusion of how people like this have lived,, have done these unhuman like things to innocent woman and children without remorse. Our thoughts can only deal with so much before it will not register any longer.
paul You’re right and no, Evil Wizard Inc you’re not a big baby...this is incredibly sickening and painful to listen to. Unless you’re a psychopath, it’s perfectly natural and normal (and a sign that you’re healthy and haven’t lost your soul) to have your stomach churn, you’re heart ache and eyes well up hearing about innocent people let alone his own children being brutally sexually abused and tortured. I’m sorry (no, not really) but I agree with everyone that says life in prison and suicide was too good for these bastards, they should’ve been hung from a crane.
Karen Jade Connors i think people like fred and rose should be put to a forced labour camp. I think that it would be good way to keep people away from murder and homicide.
@@somegal-89 just let them rot forgotten, serial killers usually arr narcissists, being locked away and forgotten is much scarier to them then pain or death which is why fred killed himself. From what ive read most psychopaths value their own life and wellbeing almost as little as other people's. Life in jail hurts them FAR more trust me
It's a tragedy the UK did away with the death penalty. Fascinating though horrible. I wonder what the next 'story' will be. The Dennis Nielsen case has always fascinated me. I hate him but I hate the Wests more.
Bedtime Stories yes, he murdered young men, often drifters and cut their bodies up to store them in his house and garden, although he actually only had a flat. Muswell Hill, London, he was arrested in 1983. They found human remains to be blocking the sewer as he tried to flush them away down the toilet. Policeman: "how many bodies are we talking about, one or two"? Neilson: "17 or 18 since 1978" WTF the cop didn't really say WTF but that's what I'd say if I was told that. Tell me bedtime stories guys, have you permanently changed to true crime now (from mysteries)
death penalty,,, for these two, I think they had it correct back in the 13 14th 15th centuries for crimes like this,,, HUNG, DRAWN AND QUARTERED THEN UP ON A JITBIT WITH THE DOGS.
paul yea but the numbers show that almost half of ppl executed in death penalty were found innocent later, especially in the 80's when dna was introduced. Perhaps once china pefects the social credit and biometrics system theyll bring it back but for now its best we dont,also it costs 5+ million to execute someone! It only cost a couple thousand a year to incarcerate them.
You guys are great!!! And I love the quaintness of being one of only 5000 subs(like being a fan of a band before they get big!!! 'cause you guys are going to! I see 1 million once word of mouth starts... Just keep it up, you'll be rewarded!!!) Thanks!!!
This is by far the most disturbing Bedtime Story I have watched, and I've been getting caught up with just about every single video on this channel over the past month or so. Aliens, ghouls, demons, none of these are monsters when compared to the likes of Fred and Rose West. As another commenter stated, I thought I was prepared when I was warned at the disturbing nature of this story - I've seen and heard a lot of unsettling things in my life - but I was not prepared for this. It's a shame Fred was such a coward to take his own life. I hope there really is a Hell.
I love this channel. The narration and research, the great artwork, the music; I come back daily hoping for updates. Thanks for the hard work, keep em coming!
i just recently stumbled across this channel and i love your videos, this one by far is one of the hardest videos to watch. Great video, but extremely heart breaking
I like to think that no-one is just born bad but it really does make me wonder what happened in Freds life to make him like this. As what point in his early years did he turn into this....thing. What happened. How does a person end up like this?
Kayleigh Brown -two severe head injuries at a young age might be a factor. One left him in a coma for a week and people said his personality definitely changed(and not for the better) after one of them. I remember reading in psychology books before that severe head injuries could cause severe personality changes, sometimes even rage and violence. But who knows?
I think the key lies in his question, "doesn't everyone do it?" That kind of treatment was normal in the neighborhood he was raised in and among his family's friends.
One wonders if Rosemary would have been different if she had not met Fred, folie a deux? I can't truly grasp the mindset of people like the Wests, the sickening joy taken in inflicting suffering . I suppose it's true that one of the things humans excel at is finding new ways to hurt other humans. Another good video considering the subject matter.
Funny how you say that at the end of your comment while the seemingly "good" people here are making up torture methods for these people. Human hypocrisy is so interesting.
Just stumbled across your site today. What a refreshing way to scare the hell out of people! I really like how the stories are told through (excellent) drawings. I’ve been fascinated with the paranormal since I was a child and I’m really enjoying your channel- not brave enough to watch these stories at bedtime though!
I’m from the uk. Remember as this story was breaking, body after body being brought out I was only about 13, but remember thinking how much worse can this story get. The answer. So much worse
Excellent episode. More like this please, based on True Crime, tragic as these stories may be. I like your paranormal episodes, but you have to continue peppering your output with more episodes like this produced in your signature storytelling style. Great job.
i Disagree with more episodes like this, If I wanted to watch a true crime documentary there is hundreds on youtube which I have watched including numerous on fred and rose west, I much prefer your lesser known cases don't get me wrong I enjoyed the episode but just recapping on things I have heard time and time before my personal favourite episode about the rumoured satanic goings on at the old military building in Germany especially in the basement
ryan kelly I understand your sentiment and agree to an extent. We will definitely keep the focus on the paranormal / supernatural. However, 73% of our audience are North American and many of them would not have heard of this case. I wanted to do a particularly shocking and fairly well-known case to begin our foray into true crime, but when we do them in future, we'll perhaps look at more obscure ones. In my office where I work, the average age is around 25. When they asked what my episode this week would be based on I was shocked to hear that most of them had never heard of it. Some had heard the names of Fred and Rose West before, but didn't know what they had actually done.
I'm 23 but to be fair there probably isn't a serial killer I don't know England or anywhere(haha just really into true crime). To be fair I commented as I was watching and now after watching there was a lot of cool little details I hadn't actually heard. This episode was actually, probably the most chilling think it was because it actually happened and the stuff you are telling is fact. Great stuff once again and the illustrations along with your narration is top notch! btw my personal favourite ep. is the one about the rumours of satanic goings on in the military base in Germany in the basement cant recall the name (ive watched them all). Anyway keep the videos coming your subscriber count does not resemble your quality I'm guessing you'll be at least 30k by the end of the year
By wanting these guys to do more episodes on True Crime, i don't mean on topics that aren't mysterious or have already been solved. I mean topics that remain unsolved and are truly chilling to the bone in the way they happened or in some other aspect. There are many of these. In my mind, Bedtime Stories is about stories that will give you nightmares when trying to sleep, which doesn't imply that it needs to be supernatural. In many ways, non supernatural stories can be even more chilling than supernatural ones. I'd paste some links here to some of the kinds of stories i'm talking about, but i don't want to take the wind out of the sails of Bedtime Stories. I'd rather you see it first on this channel, which does a much better job of story telling than others.
Thank you so much for tackling this case with the respect and sobriety it deserves. I very much enjoy your videos and your tone of narration. I don't mind sensationalized stories once in while, but it is truly good to come across some that treat the topic of true crime with the respect it deserves. Here's to more stories from your channel, they are a welcome background noise for art.
I passed by Gloucester on a trip through the UK in 1982. Chilling to think that just a few miles away from me, the Wests were raping, torturing, and murdering women, and living on top of a graveyard of their young victims. This episode is by far the most disturbing one you've yet posted.
I was at secondary school when this story broke in the news and I have been disturbed and yet fascinated by it ever since. I have read a couple of books and seen some documentaries about it over the years and it is interesting to hear your take on it too.
Truly horrific monstrosities of nature. I remember when the news broke about the murders, and when he killed himself in prison the newspaper headlines the day after were " happy noose year". It was definitely a good start to it!
This is one of the most troubling things I've ever heard. All I can say is people take heed of little children and what may appear to be problems with them, as it could lead to helping them and others. RIP to all the victims...I hope Fred and Rosemary, if there is a hell, rot there.
This episode is the first that has made me cry. My previous binge sessions have mostly come close, but had never drawn a tear from its duct. I wept for the losses of all of those women and children, and found myself hurting inside for the families that undoubtedly still mourn their losses. While the actions are abhorrent and monstrous, I do thank you for relaying them in this video. It feels important to me to know of these lost souls, if only to mourn them from afar. I truly hope that they all rest in peace now, as I shed silent tears for these departed. Thank you, truly.
I used to walk past this house often as a child in the early 90s. It's close to the city park where loads of kids play. It was a dirty dingy inner-city area with huge but deteriorating townhouses where things like this could happen unnoticed.
Unimaginably horrific, and at the same time tragic...on a more civilized note, kudos to your straightforward, articulate narration and Thank You for not trying to sound ominous or drone on in a monotone manner which would insult the memory, and demean the terrors suffered, by the poor unfortunate victims.
Awesome channel! I just found it. Do you do your own art? I like the style, I've been experimenting with my own art on my channel, still trying to get the hang of PS. Well I'm impressed so I've subbed. Cheers
Thanks! Thumbs up to your artist, really adds to the atmosphere and gives your videos a unique and creepy look, and the narrator is brilliant. Great stories too! You guys will get big!!!
"The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." Genesis 6:5
What horrible human beings, I hope they rot in hell and be punished the way they tortured their children, an eye for an eye. May those children be in peace
Just going to take a moment here to appreciate the girl who punched this guy in the face and sent him falling two stories. She deserves a medal.
She deserves nothing, she did nothing.
2 feminist pussies detected
@@hydacanal You're not a "feminist pussy" if you think a sexual assaulter should get punched lmao
@ChantonsLamour Wow, hit every SJW buzzword in one paragraph. It's just a punch, not like actually did something no one else could do.
Seriously.
"Rose feared she would threaten the stability of the family." What stability?
There are multiple discrepancies in this episode.
For full story, read “ The Evil Love” by Geoffrey Wansell, published in 1996.
There is also fantastic blog:
“ The Needle Pulls the Thread: Barefoot Child- The Life of Heather West”. Google it.
I’ve read everything there is on West’s and timelines prove that Rose didn’t kill little Charmaine: Fred did.
Also with Shirley Robinson: she wanted Fred to marry her & Rose convinced Fred to kill Shirley.
There is plethora of evidence connecting West’s to protected paedo rings & murder & dismemberment patterns show satanic /occult connections.
Another great books are “ The Corpse Garden” and “ Fred and Rose”( lookthem up on Amazon).
It was just a poor choice of words.
@@emzkoe3904 The choice of world is correct, for a dispicable woman. Its like gold diggers say stable when they mean rich. Stable just means as they like it.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 I understand what was meant, but that's not what that means.
@@emzkoe3904 The motivations of the woman are what they are regardless. If an abused woman won't leave her husband because she doesn't want him to stop loving her, it's still the reason why, even though he doesn't love her anyways. You would still say she doesn't want to leave because she doesn't want him to stop loving her. It's her reason if shes wrong or not
I had a brush with Fred West during the 1970s. I was driving on the A40, now M40, West of Carmarthen. I noticed that cars ahead of me were slowing down, and avoiding something in the road. As I got nearer, I saw a boy, perhaps 10-12 years old, running amongst the traffic in utter terror, being chased by a man, who was kicking out viciously at him. I stopped my car, yelled at the man to stop kicking at the boy, but he took no notice. I grabbed him, gave him a "dead leg" to sober him up, and pushed him to the ground away from the road, out of harm's way. I tried to comfort the boy, but he was crying desperately, and I could not get any sense out of him. The man said, in a strong West country accent, "It's all right - he suffers from asthma", which sounded a strange excuse for making such a vicious attack. I told him to be quiet, then flagged down a car, asking the driver to call the police from the next house, as there had been an incident. The police eventually turned up, I described what had happened. The man said his name was Frederick West. I gave the police my details, fully expecting to be called as a witness, but I heard no more about the matter, until I saw the man's distinctive "monkey face" in the papers years later.
Was the boy okay?
I think he was more frightened than badly hurt. He was still sobbing when I left him with the police. I fully expected to be contacted by the police as a witness. I don't know who the boy was, I asked him if the man (whom I now know a lot more about) was his Dad. He said that he was not, but was too upset to tell me anything else. Strangely, I had been a witness to a similar incident when I was a child, with my Dad. This did result in a Court case, and my Dad was required to give evidence. I thought that the same would happen this time.
Anthony Taylor frightening mate!
A dead leg clearly wasn't enough...if only you'd been a mind reader that day. Doesn't surprise me the police didn't get back to you I remember wasting time calling them over some horrors that were going on back then and they'd just brush it off, now they have the excuse that they're busy looking for online hate crime against criminals! Useless is to Kind a word.
Like everybody else, the police have probably got to fill in so many forms and do risk assessments before they actually get down to doing what they are supposed to, that they are left with very little time for real work. I am glad I am now a pensioner and free from all of that.Just back from an 11 mile stroll in my local (Pentland) hills - certainly beats working!
Yes, if I had known that he was a serial murderer and sadist, then a dead leg would have been rather inadequate. However, at the time my concern was to get him out of the road, and to stop him kicking the boy. He had clearly lost control, either he or the boy could easily have been killed by traffic. What did surprise me was that only I stopped my car and sorted the situation out. Surely, some of those who just drove on must have been young men - how could they just ignore a terrified boy being abused?
Why look for Cryptids, when we already have monsters living among us.
I've seen a lot of speculation that some of the humanoid cryptids are actually legends about serial killers.
"that village over there is inhabited by people cursed by the wendigo."
Or maybe they're just cannibals.... Actually proper cannibal societies tended to have a concept of who could be eaten. They had a concept of murder, they just only applied it to their society, and outsiders weren't.
That's a fact
Because they're probably nicer than people :)
even cryptids are not capable of being such monstrous beings as compared to these two
Because cryptids are cool, people are assholes.
I don't care if the mother of the children suffered in certain incidents. She should be treated as a accomplice and not given the benefit of ignorance; especially if they are in the same house!
They don't execute people in the UK but she's sentenced to what we in the US call "life without possibility of parole". If she'd done any of this in Texas, she'd be a dead bitch by now!
@Ana Lou
As do men.
Indeed. The problem is that females always get the benefit of doubt, and this is why we should always question them. Sorry, but it's true
At least she got sent to prison for the rest of her life. Karla Bernardo was another partner of a killer--a partner in the fullest sense of the word--and she got out after 12 years.
Should just kill em. Save some taxpayers $.
How could anyone hurt children.
It sickens me that parents could do that to their own children
I don't understand it either. Children are so innocent and special. I could never, ever even think of hurting my daughter. These aren't human - they're demonic animals. They should have been executed on the spot.
@@andyraison7131 I understand the anger but they were/are human, labels like "demonic" are simplistic and show a certain amount of ignorance.
Fred never stood a chance, massive head injury coupled with his own rape as a child by both mother and father set him up to be the immoral sociopath he became.
Rose being raped as a child by her father too didn't necessarily turn her killer but it and meeting/falling in love with Fred sure did. If she had fallen for someone more stable, chances are she never would've killed.
They became terrible adults but rearing a child with little to no empathy almost guarantees they'll become sociopathic as adults.
@@MichaelJP Adding to this, pedophilia isn't a well researched mental issue that is understood. While going through such experiences as a kid increases your chances of becoming a pedo, there is very little evidence as to how it originates.
Fred repeated what he experienced, but what made his parents do it? Were they born like that, did something psychological happen to them, or did they experience the same thing?
Mental illnesses are rarely understood the same way as other illnesses, and I look forward to when it is better understood.
@@danielnodland4072
Wow, thank you for not having Middle Age Ara thinking. Instead of being all like "yeah let's just kill all pedos", why not try understanding it and finding causes to it and rather trying to better prevent it.
Yeah but if you gave me him tied to a chair and locked us in a room...
Id borderline sicken you all with the levels of Torture I commit on him. And his Wife.
Shoutout to the girl that punched Fred West in the head, knocking off a two-year story ladder.
Shoutout to you and all feminazi cunts.
My question is, what was the scenario in which he was on a ladder two stories up and groping a girl? That seems an odd situation that a groping was going on
Plot twist: had he not got brain damage from that incident he wouldn't have been the way he was. I'm of course joking, but I'm sure it didn't help.
Kay Lew that’s my question too
together with the previous head injury most likely played a part in the personality change and contributed to his evil actions.
I thought I was prepared physically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually when I was warned how disturbing this story is.
I was wrong....
Same here, I hope Fred West rots in hell for all the pain and suffering he's caused. Hopefully his victims, both dead and alive, have found peace.
I recommend the story of Dean Corl, or Candyman. It is equally disturbing and scary.
Yeah, I thought I heard some shit. But... Jesus..
@@TheSkyGoat They are actually two different kinds of horrible. But you know one of those saddest things about the Corll case? There are more bodies out there. The police stopped looking after it reached so high because of how bad it looked on their department. There could be families with missing kids that are are still buried in an area where they found all the other bodies but they just quit looking. Well I guess that's not the saddest thing...but its really frustrating and terrible.
There are no words for it.
This was heart wrenching to hear. I've heard many horrifying stories in my life. But this, I've never heard of such a cold and heartless series of acts committed by any human being till now. Rest assured there is a special place in Hell for those two. May all of their victims, including their own children, finally rest in peace.
yes, it's pretty sickening. and sadly these kind of crimes keeps repeating throughout the history of mankind. different place, different time, different people. it's like a curse, a stigma that sticks to our species. maybe one day... things will be different.
on the other note thought, I'm surprised that no "anonymous intellectuals" actually say anything about "hell doesn't exist" and all that evolution mumbo jumbos on this comment section.
I’ve heard about this case before and watched programmes. But learned so much more through this episode as you really explained so much about all the goings on in the family which I never really knew much about. Thank you very much for the great episode.
Good fucking god what was wrong with these people. The UK should've brought back the axe just for these two people.
drosera88 I have a feeling that if Fred west hadn’t killed himself that his fellow prisoners would’ve obliged his request.
SavageJesus-? The hell? Please tell me you’re just some stupid troll. Not a funny one mind you
@@BeeLZBeeb Probably not, plenty of similar people exist in the prison system.
People called for it. There was a public outcry about this case.
100 percent agree
If Fred's sis had gone on to testify against him in the first place, so many lives would probably have been saved.
If his early life was what he said it was, their father probably said he would kill her if she did. Dad wasn't going to jail and she still had to live with him.
I doubt it. As a young offender at the time, he would maybe have gotten 5-10 years, with good behavior that could have become as little as 2-3 served. It would have changed the story and the people involved, but we can't know for certain that it would have changed these factors for the better.
There are a ton of openings in this story where shit could have been different. It wasnt to be.
Fred was being protected by the authorities. Because certain people of high standing in the area, we're up to their necks in this case. Some of them were punters of the services that Fred & Rose provided.
If she'd persisted, he'd have killed her.
There is much more to this case that is not in the public domain. And it's unlikely it'll ever see the light of day.
You are an incredibly gifted storyteller. Its not often someone has a talent like yours. Thank you for making these
Thank you for taking the time to say the names of the victims.
I remember this case, I always wondered why England hated Myra Hindley more than Rose West who was much worse.
Hindley and Brady were before my time, but I can only assume it was because they murdered actual children. Both she and her partner Ian Brady also tormented the mother of one of their victims by never saying where he was buried. The poor lady eventually died in 2012 (her son was murdered in 1964), never being able to properly bury her son.
Hindley was as bad in her own way. She lured small children to Ian Brady. She had not grown up in an abusive home, unlike Rose West. Hindley was as bad as Rose West
"He threatened to report their relationship to social services" ULTIMATE HYPOCRITE
Good Lord, EVERYONE involved in this story is SO messed up. RIP to all the victims.
the suffering & unmitigated sorrow all because of Freds dad who sodomized everybody
I would rather be the dead ones... I cant see how the living victims are still trying to live, I hope they can forget their past at least :/
Do you think there could be many more victims, there were alot of girls missing in the 60's, 70's, 80's etc who knows if Fred West is behind these cases. I do suspect he has killed many more women and they could be under allotments or motorways etc.
Thank you for the disclaimer at the beginning. I have PTSD tied to much of that stuff, so you saved me a breakdown. Love you guys!
I loved how most of the other stories on the channel would always end on an eerie note to terrify you, this one actually ends with peaceful music in the background as the poor victim's of these disgusting acts can now finally rest in peace.
Fother Mucker your name is awesome 🤣
Sorry, and also, I agree a lovely way to end the episode
That evil pair should have been burned at the stake , this is truly the very worst thing i have ever heard , it is hard to imagine anything more sick and evil than this. Its satanic in its perversity, i do not think i could have sat through all of that as a member of the jury, there is some relief that others did so and found them duly guilty, but mere imprisonment is better than either deserved.
we have but they dont deserve life
Agreed cederic. 👍🏻
Cerdic. Sorry 🙈
Scaphism would work as a fine death sentence...
" it is hard to imagine anything more sick and evil than this. " Learn about the Holodomor that started in 1922. Or read the book "Germany must Perish."
I've been a true crime buff for over 40 years and have read about and watched documentaries about some really sick, horrific crimes. But the case of the Wests is one of only a handful that make me physically ill. Killing and cutting up young girls is one thing, but doing it to your own flesh and blood is incomprehensible to most people. I can't remember how I first heard about the crimes of Fred and Rosemary West, but I doubt I read about it in the paper, as I live in America and I guess there were other things more newsworthy (John Wayne Gacy was nearing his execution date, which kept it on the front page, particularly hear in my native Illinois). I've read and seen a lot of horrible things during the years I've studied true crime and I believe that the Wests may be two of only a handful of people that I believe have no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Great video and artwork, as always.
The most disturbing thing is that in their minds they believe they didn't do anything wrong.
Don't pity the dead, pity the living. Especially Anne-Marie, i can't possibly imagine what she must have gone throough over the course of her life.
I hold no pitty for those who carry on the genes of such animals.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 I take it you're an avid supporter of the concept of eugenics then?
@@IudiciumInfernalum Eugenics is a tool and that it works is a fact.
But no I would not support most eugenic policies, they have the possibility to seriously go wrong. Id rather not toy with population genetics. For them to be of any good you would need a well meaning and well informed government that caries them out, I cant say that about any government right now.
I remember hearing about this back in the day and being sickened. After having a daughter, it brings on a whole new level of anxiety and protectiveness. I'm not a religious or superstitious person, but I hope those abused, both living and dead, can rest peacfully.
Amazing episode. The end was very touching. Such a heart wrenching thing for everyone involved. I feel bad for their kids.
WTFMate? 💔
This was the most terrifying of all the Bedtime Stories.
Nothing tops this
Not the most terrifying to me, but surely one of, if not the most horrible of them all.
Love the artwork. The black and white depictions are stark, but detailed just enough to give the right visual reference, and add to the stories. I enjoy the way you present each of these topics and how at the end you offer the different views of possible answers. New subscriber! With the depravity of human society, you shouldn't run out of stories any times soon. =)
U r not even commenting on such a sickening story, creepy
Felt weird for “liking” this but this was liked on the basis of not only how well it was made and what a great storyteller you are but also how respectful and how you honored the memories of the West’s victims.
This is absolutely true that monsters exist, they don’t always have fangs or glowing red eyes..they can look as human (albeit the Wests were absolutely hideous tho) as you or I...anyways before I get on a soapbox, thank you for this and all the videos you made. I’m hooked on em...they’re just great and very well done, while still remaining very respectful to the victims in the cases that we tend to forget and dehumanize, no matter how strange and scary it might be. Keep up the great work!
Also I like to request more stuff on aliens and the men in Black, plz, thanks!
We stopped looking for monsters underneath our beds, when we realized that monsters existed inside of us!!!
Great departure from your usual stuff- still as disturbing and well-researched as any of your other videos. It's sad to think that horrific crimes like this are still happening all over the world, and people like Rosemary and Fred West still exist. These kinds of stories that needs to be remembered. If we can understand this kind of past evil, then maybe we can prevent it in the future.
'Evil triumphs when good men stand and do nothing'.
-Edmund Burke.
+Little Loud: We may be able to use the knowledge gleaned from such cases to help prevent future heinous acts from being carried out, but you cannot stop evil deviants from existing, unfortunately! The world is loaded with self-absorbed compassionless people, who think only of fulfilling their often twisted and petty desires. All we can really hope to do is be wary of, and vigilant to, their cunning and deception.
These moments are one good reason why mind reading and omniscient surveillance better become real life boons in millennia of human history to come... no need for fear, no need for blind and expensive searching.
Yay! My favorite channel posted. Love you guys. My girlfriend and I are sitting down to listen drinking tea and having crumpets. Cheers lads . Glad I am supporting you
I remember hearing the news on the case as a kid back then... hearing the full extent of it now, it's utterly horrifying to realise just how vile these two were, and how their own upbringings likely set them on that path.
Stories like these are always heavy. Life in prison is too good for those monsters. Only a visit from the cenobites would be a little fitting for their crimes
Crucifixion
No, with crucifixion you die too quickly.
Dude, they practically are cenobites.
Artemis Arrow Artemis Arrow people are saying death for these people is righteous, but it really isn’t. Think about it, life in prison will have you locked in a cell for the rest of your life _to rot,_ with other prisoners that you do not know. And hell, Child abusers/murderers/rapists are treated worse by the other inmates than by the guards. If you see what the other inmates do to these _monsters,_ it’ll really send a shock.
@@balalaika9114 people in modern prisons become institutionalized. The human mind and body thrives on the strict schedule and meals. Its no more punishment than working a 9-5 job your entire life
This case never fails to horrify me. I think this is one of your best videos to date. Are you planning on doing more murderer/serial killer videos in the future?
Yes :-)
If there ever was a real life case of "The Devil's Rejects", the West family would fit the bill...Brian Ghilliotti
As horrific as this story is, and as difficult as it must have been to include it in one of your episodes, I've never heard it told with such compassion for the victims. Thank you for having such deep compassion, and for the sensitive way you presented this terrible story. It made me cry for the hell they must have endured at the hands of the very people they should have been safe with.
when fred raped his underage sister and impragnated her why he was not put in jail? why police didnt took notic of so much dissapearances? why when Heather told her school friends no one came up to help her there are so so many questions raise about this case
He didn't impregnate his sister, but he did rape her and he should have been put in jail, but he can only be put in jail if he is convicted in a court of law. He can only be convicted in a court of law if there is evidence against him. The only evidence was his sister's word and she refused to testify in the end. Most of the disappearances were from areas nowhere near where Fred lived, he used to drive out miles and abduct them from bus stops and pick up female hitchhikers. There was no reason for police to link them back to Fred. However the missing person's cases were kept open, but went cold. You have a point about Heather, but I feel she spoke too late and when concerned people did ask after her welfare, Fred and Rose cooked up this story about her moving to Devon.
In another documentry I heared his sister got pregnant, another charachter we can blame was Caroline Owens who despite being raped didnt presented evidence and stayed silence for long time
waqas ahmad Not blame. To be honest, many of us would be scared to talk if something like that happened to us.
waqas ahmad dont victim blame. That's not good to do.
waqas ahmad I hope the police 👮♀️ learned a lesson about taking care of familial crimes as well they acted blind towards these criminals who reined for years
The joke about the sister under the patio is a big RED flag.....👮♀️
My God. By the end of this episode I started crying and I’m trying to hold in a lot of emotions since I’m at work. Out of all the monsters in the world these two and those like them terrify me the most. I could walk a mile in pitch black darkness and be scared of the unknown, but aliens, slenderman, monthman etc. never put chills through my body like the thought of a human being lurking out there in hopes of killing me. This got to me,having involved children, even more so and now.... I can barely get my shit together. I’m not an atheist, but right now I feel that , we as a species, need Jesus.
Amen, had these two worthless air suckered known God they wouldn't have followed Satan and his will
Listening to this made me really sick not going to lie
That really is heartbreaking. Imagining the helplessness and terror those girls experienced makes me supremely angry and sad. Innocent lives must never be lost like those were. Wish I could've prevented all those senseless deaths. Rest in peace little doves. Nobody can ever hurt you again.
Wow, epic video. Never even heard of this case. What a pair of evil bastards, may they rot in hell. You guys just keep on getting better and better. Keep it up and you'll have a million subs in no time, I really believe that! Can't wait for the next episode!
I always have a hard time hearing about this case. It's so sad and disturbing.
It seems like someone on high was protecting them. I can't think of any other reason why every single witness reversed their testimony until the bodies had been found
The Plod were paying Fred to shag Dozy Rosie. They were protecting them.
Stinks of high level cover up, police collusion,etc.
Yes, it makes you wonder who the clients were that they sold their kids too
Well this was brutal as hell.... Jesus Christ
Are the illustrations used yours? Because they are really good. I love them.
Yes, we create them especially for each episode.
i think people focus a lot on fred west when it was rosemary who was the most violent according to her daughter. someone needs to do a video about her part.
This, and the Olivia Mabel episode both moved me to tears by the end. Such a heart wrenching story this was.
Excellent quality and narration as always. Not sure if you have or take requests but if you could do one on Bobby and Sherilyn Jamison, and their six-year-old daughter Madyson from Oklahoma, that'd be amazing. A very curious unsolved story which happened an hour from where I live
I remember reading about that case. It was very strange, and a perfect subject for this channel.
First time I heard of this case (probably because I'm American). Truly a chilling case, and the narration makes it all the more frightening
Look up the yorkshire ripper case, Good old 1970 documentary about it,, People blame the head of the investigations why it took a long time to get leads but everyone was working very hard to get this bloke.
This is disturbing and he was a vile evil man.
Don't forget his wife
So was she
They were both disturbing af
Sometimes there are atrocities that seem to hit me in the gut like nothing else, that keep me from becoming too immune and jaded to mourning for those lost to the Evil of this world. This is one of those cases. I'd heard about this case from another channel some months back, and it was the first time I'd encountered it.
But it wasn't until watching your video on the West case that I began to feel what anybody should feel at something like this: Despair, Horror, Grief, Shock, Disgust, Contempt, and an ineffable sense of mourning something. I am often terrified by videos like those of Bedtime Stories (and other outstanding channels, like Lazy Masquerade). But although I can get quite emotional consuming various media, I rarely get that way watching these kinds of videos.
This analysis was different. By half-way through, I could not stop crying. I'm still crying. The deeply empathic and compassionate manner in which you unpacked these Human Atrocities was so profoundly upsetting to me, because it _should_ be profoundly upsetting. It's the kind of thing that makes you wonder why any of us does anything in our lifetimes other than helping rescue and protect children from the unspeakable Evils of this world. Like my pursuit of anything other than justice for children is somehow immoral, even - for lack of a better word - _blasphemous_ or...something.
I wish these comments were more eloquent and articulate. But what can we say when we encounter such unfathomable horrors?
in any case, I want to thank you all for this video, but especially because of the only thing - other than tears - that gave me some catharsis from watching this: At the end of the video - 28:35 - your comments about the question of whether Evil - true, abject, midnight black Evil - exists or not. And I so very much needed to hear what you said. About how anybody can know what happened in this case and somehow not accept the reality of Evil (and of course, the converse of Good). Me, and I'm sure many many other viewers, needed to hear this, because it was the exact same question I was asking myself (and answering in the affirmative) during the course of the video.
Much as I love the paranormal facets of this channel, you are all clearly adept at addressing the most frightening facets of the _natural_ world with great empathy and care and subtlety. I hope you do more videos in this vein.
/apologies for length
Wow !Evil comes in many guises. My heart just cries for the children and women who suffered.R.I.P. I was on the edge of my seat for this one. Great storytelling👍
Thank you for covering this story with the respect and humanity it deserved. I hope you will cover more true crime stories in the future as you are one of the few channels that treats them and the victims involved with the all respect and sobriety they deserve.
I remember when this story came to light, inspiring a wave of sick jokes at my school about Fred getting the children up, accompanied by digging motions.
I also remember seeing a TV interview with the surviving children. Absolutely horrifying. Those two were evil incarnate.
The satire magazine VIZ ran a comic strip, "Harold and Fred Make Ladies Dead," where West and serial-killing MD Harold Shipman were cast as bumbling rivals, trying to outdo each other's murder-rates. Sometimes sick humor is a way of whistling past the graveyard of human depravity and evil.
I’ve binge watched 2/3rds of this channel’s content in four days. So great.
I’m in shock that this actually happened. How can a human being treat another human, children even, as those monsters did 💔
🥂
I've seen many tellings of this horrible point in history, and this is the most enthralling, you deserve so many more subscribers than you currently have!
Bedtime stories if you have plans about doing more of true crime stories then I have a few cases to share
1.The murder of junko furuta
2.The murder of Sylvia likens
3.katherine knight
4.the Ukraine maniacs
Varun Pendharkar ~ These are all supremely excellent choices! I have researched all of these very thoroughly and am fascinated with them all. Particularly the Junko Furuta and Sylvia Likens cases. Those poor, poor girls.. i can't fathom the amount of terror and excruciating pain they went through on a daily basis. The very prolonged torture of those two girls, days, weeks and even months (in Sylvia's case) is what makes these cases the most disturbing to me. But, the cases of Katherine Knight and the Ukraine killers are also exceptionally brutal and horrific!!
Richard McCart thank you for your remarks I am glad you found these cases interesting
[thiccy] thanks
Damn the junko n sylvia are heartbreaking
Varun Pendharkar How about the murder of Seth Rich?
I am in Australia but the case made headlines here. It is truly one of the most sickening cases of abuse and murder I have ever heard of.
Look at the dislike to like ratio! You've got to keep on making videos mate!
See you this weekend with a new vid :-)
Bedtime Stories yess!!!!
Bedtime Stories awesome!!
Bedtime Stories , AWESOME!!!!!!
+Jimmy Biggums: Yep, gotta agree with you regarding that ratio - Bedtime Stories has been expertly executed and will become huge rapidly (I predict)! But, who-the-hell would dislike this excellent effort, I mean, what _is_ there to dislike?!? (It's got to be troublemaker trolls, or idiots who find the subject matter offensive and can't comprehend the intended function of the like/dislike system.)
interesting how this video has fewer views in comparison to the videos that came before and after it. maybe not everybody wants to sit down and watch something for 30mins, but i think stories of true crime can be far more off-putting than paranormal/supernatural events! great work!!
As soon as I heard you read out West's full name, I remembered why the title was so familiar.
Those poor girls and children suffering at the hands of such monsters.
This is tooo messed up for me I'm a big baby.
no, Your a human being with compassion, a sense of wanting to help even if is past history and I would think a confusion of how people like this have lived,, have done these unhuman like things to innocent woman and children without remorse. Our thoughts can only deal with so much before it will not register any longer.
paul You’re right and no, Evil Wizard Inc you’re not a big baby...this is incredibly sickening and painful to listen to. Unless you’re a psychopath, it’s perfectly natural and normal (and a sign that you’re healthy and haven’t lost your soul) to have your stomach churn, you’re heart ache and eyes well up hearing about innocent people let alone his own children being brutally sexually abused and tortured.
I’m sorry (no, not really) but I agree with everyone that says life in prison and suicide was too good for these bastards, they should’ve been hung from a crane.
@@why-nv5ms How can some kids be so strange?
holy shit I didn't even know about this
it's scary what some people can do to others
Digidi4 indeed
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Even making the plot a public footpath I find disrespectful. RIP TO ALL THOSE WHO SUFFERED AT THEIR MONSTER HANDS
Karen Jade Connors i think people like fred and rose should be put to a forced labour camp. I think that it would be good way to keep people away from murder and homicide.
O.H
They do not deserve life or death. Every second until they die should be filled with suffering.
that's what I meant. forced to work hard until they work themselves to death. that's what forced labour is like
I agree. I would not walk through there at any cost!
@@somegal-89 just let them rot forgotten, serial killers usually arr narcissists, being locked away and forgotten is much scarier to them then pain or death which is why fred killed himself. From what ive read most psychopaths value their own life and wellbeing almost as little as other people's. Life in jail hurts them FAR more trust me
It's a tragedy the UK did away with the death penalty.
Fascinating though horrible. I wonder what the next 'story' will be.
The Dennis Nielsen case has always fascinated me. I hate him but I hate the Wests more.
We'll have a look at that one :-)
Bedtime Stories yes, he murdered young men, often drifters and cut their bodies up to store them in his house and garden, although he actually only had a flat. Muswell Hill, London, he was arrested in 1983. They found human remains to be blocking the sewer as he tried to flush them away down the toilet.
Policeman: "how many bodies are we talking about, one or two"?
Neilson: "17 or 18 since 1978"
WTF
the cop didn't really say WTF but that's what I'd say if I was told that.
Tell me bedtime stories guys, have you permanently changed to true crime now (from mysteries)
No, not at all. We're still focusing on paranormal and supernatural mysteries as our mainstay. True crime, will only be every now and then.
death penalty,,, for these two, I think they had it correct back in the 13 14th 15th centuries for crimes like this,,, HUNG, DRAWN AND QUARTERED THEN UP ON A JITBIT WITH THE DOGS.
paul yea but the numbers show that almost half of ppl executed in death penalty were found innocent later, especially in the 80's when dna was introduced. Perhaps once china pefects the social credit and biometrics system theyll bring it back but for now its best we dont,also it costs 5+ million to execute someone! It only cost a couple thousand a year to incarcerate them.
Your stories are simply hypnotic. Everytime I switch one on I am drawn in completely. Love listening to them whilst I sleep.
You guys are great!!! And I love the quaintness of being one of only 5000 subs(like being a fan of a band before they get big!!! 'cause you guys are going to! I see 1 million once word of mouth starts... Just keep it up, you'll be rewarded!!!) Thanks!!!
This is the only one of your videos that I could not finish. Aliens, cryptids and other horrors cannot match what humans can do to each other.
This is by far the most disturbing Bedtime Story I have watched, and I've been getting caught up with just about every single video on this channel over the past month or so. Aliens, ghouls, demons, none of these are monsters when compared to the likes of Fred and Rose West. As another commenter stated, I thought I was prepared when I was warned at the disturbing nature of this story - I've seen and heard a lot of unsettling things in my life - but I was not prepared for this. It's a shame Fred was such a coward to take his own life. I hope there really is a Hell.
I love this channel. The narration and research, the great artwork, the music; I come back daily hoping for updates. Thanks for the hard work, keep em coming!
Well as a criminal case: you guys can look up at Junko Furuta case
i just recently stumbled across this channel and i love your videos, this one by far is one of the hardest videos to watch. Great video, but extremely heart breaking
Jesus Christ that was heavy and hard to listen to. Its a shame he killed himself he deserved so many beatings
I like to think that no-one is just born bad but it really does make me wonder what happened in Freds life to make him like this. As what point in his early years did he turn into this....thing. What happened. How does a person end up like this?
Kayleigh Brown -two severe head injuries at a young age might be a factor. One left him in a coma for a week and people said his personality definitely changed(and not for the better) after one of them. I remember reading in psychology books before that severe head injuries could cause severe personality changes, sometimes even rage and violence. But who knows?
He Also claimed to have been raped and head injuries plus rape do not a well balanced person make
I think the key lies in his question, "doesn't everyone do it?"
That kind of treatment was normal in the neighborhood he was raised in and among his family's friends.
One wonders if Rosemary would have been different if she had not met Fred, folie a deux? I can't truly grasp the mindset of people like the Wests, the sickening joy taken in inflicting suffering . I suppose it's true that one of the things humans excel at is finding new ways to hurt other humans. Another good video considering the subject matter.
Considering she participated she likely would've raped, molested, and otherwise abused the kids regardless.
Funny how you say that at the end of your comment while the seemingly "good" people here are making up torture methods for these people.
Human hypocrisy is so interesting.
@@appleglassjuice11 Good point.
very concise and well produced, you deserve more views, all your videos are rather good and interesting
Love your work! It keeps me wanting more & more
Just stumbled across your site today. What a refreshing way to scare the hell out of people! I really like how the stories are told through (excellent) drawings. I’ve been fascinated with the paranormal since I was a child and I’m really enjoying your channel- not brave enough to watch these stories at bedtime though!
I’m from the uk. Remember as this story was breaking, body after body being brought out I was only about 13, but remember thinking how much worse can this story get. The answer. So much worse
Excellent episode. More like this please, based on True Crime, tragic as these stories may be. I like your paranormal episodes, but you have to continue peppering your output with more episodes like this produced in your signature storytelling style. Great job.
i Disagree with more episodes like this, If I wanted to watch a true crime documentary there is hundreds on youtube which I have watched including numerous on fred and rose west, I much prefer your lesser known cases don't get me wrong I enjoyed the episode but just recapping on things I have heard time and time before my personal favourite episode about the rumoured satanic goings on at the old military building in Germany especially in the basement
ryan kelly I understand your sentiment and agree to an extent. We will definitely keep the focus on the paranormal / supernatural. However, 73% of our audience are North American and many of them would not have heard of this case. I wanted to do a particularly shocking and fairly well-known case to begin our foray into true crime, but when we do them in future, we'll perhaps look at more obscure ones. In my office where I work, the average age is around 25. When they asked what my episode this week would be based on I was shocked to hear that most of them had never heard of it. Some had heard the names of Fred and Rose West before, but didn't know what they had actually done.
I'm 23 but to be fair there probably isn't a serial killer I don't know England or anywhere(haha just really into true crime). To be fair I commented as I was watching and now after watching there was a lot of cool little details I hadn't actually heard. This episode was actually, probably the most chilling think it was because it actually happened and the stuff you are telling is fact. Great stuff once again and the illustrations along with your narration is top notch! btw my personal favourite ep. is the one about the rumours of satanic goings on in the military base in Germany in the basement cant recall the name (ive watched them all). Anyway keep the videos coming your subscriber count does not resemble your quality I'm guessing you'll be at least 30k by the end of the year
By wanting these guys to do more episodes on True Crime, i don't mean on topics that aren't mysterious or have already been solved. I mean topics that remain unsolved and are truly chilling to the bone in the way they happened or in some other aspect. There are many of these. In my mind, Bedtime Stories is about stories that will give you nightmares when trying to sleep, which doesn't imply that it needs to be supernatural. In many ways, non supernatural stories can be even more chilling than supernatural ones. I'd paste some links here to some of the kinds of stories i'm talking about, but i don't want to take the wind out of the sails of Bedtime Stories. I'd rather you see it first on this channel, which does a much better job of story telling than others.
Beautifully written and narrated.
Tragic and heartbreaking case.
Those two had very screwed up childhoods, and as you can see it affected how they treated their children.
Thank you so much for tackling this case with the respect and sobriety it deserves. I very much enjoy your videos and your tone of narration. I don't mind sensationalized stories once in while, but it is truly good to come across some that treat the topic of true crime with the respect it deserves. Here's to more stories from your channel, they are a welcome background noise for art.
I passed by Gloucester on a trip through the UK in 1982. Chilling to think that just a few miles away from me, the Wests were raping, torturing, and murdering women, and living on top of a graveyard of their young victims. This episode is by far the most disturbing one you've yet posted.
I live up the road from there. I refuse to walk down that alleyway it just creeps me out too much
Wonderful video, scary what two simple people can do, keep up the good work
I was at secondary school when this story broke in the news and I have been disturbed and yet fascinated by it ever since. I have read a couple of books and seen some documentaries about it over the years and it is interesting to hear your take on it too.
I wonder if that cell Fred frequented and died in is now haunted and I wonder if others have been in it since Fred's demise ?
Truly horrific monstrosities of nature. I remember when the news broke about the murders, and when he killed himself in prison the newspaper headlines the day after were " happy noose year". It was definitely a good start to it!
This is one of the most troubling things I've ever heard. All I can say is people take heed of little children and what may appear to be problems with them, as it could lead to helping them and others. RIP to all the victims...I hope Fred and Rosemary, if there is a hell, rot there.
Oh there’s a pair of bed set aside for Fred and Rosemary in Helheim with moldy blankets and stone for beds.
This episode is the first that has made me cry. My previous binge sessions have mostly come close, but had never drawn a tear from its duct. I wept for the losses of all of those women and children, and found myself hurting inside for the families that undoubtedly still mourn their losses.
While the actions are abhorrent and monstrous, I do thank you for relaying them in this video. It feels important to me to know of these lost souls, if only to mourn them from afar. I truly hope that they all rest in peace now, as I shed silent tears for these departed.
Thank you, truly.
“Bedtime Stories: who needs to leave their house?”
“Bedtime Stories: There’s something in Your Basement”
I used to walk past this house often as a child in the early 90s. It's close to the city park where loads of kids play. It was a dirty dingy inner-city area with huge but deteriorating townhouses where things like this could happen unnoticed.
OP I stopped the video at 5:07 in. The subject matter was just to much for even me.
Love this channel...well named cause I can't fall asleep without it!
Unimaginably horrific, and at the same time tragic...on a more civilized note, kudos to your straightforward, articulate narration and Thank You for not trying to sound ominous or drone on in a monotone manner which would insult the memory, and demean the terrors suffered, by the poor unfortunate victims.
I am slowly binging your channel and catching up. In my opinion, this is when you went from an A- to an A+ or perhaps even S-tier. Amazing video.
Awesome channel! I just found it. Do you do your own art? I like the style, I've been experimenting with my own art on my channel, still trying to get the hang of PS. Well I'm impressed so I've subbed. Cheers
Yep, we have our very own artist who creates the images especially :-)
Nice channel by the way!
Thanks! Thumbs up to your artist, really adds to the atmosphere and gives your videos a unique and creepy look, and the narrator is brilliant. Great stories too! You guys will get big!!!
You did an excellent job of respecting the lives of those in this episode. Well done mate
"The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." Genesis 6:5
That was delightfully well done. Thank you!
What horrible human beings, I hope they rot in hell and be punished the way they tortured their children, an eye for an eye. May those children be in peace