9:41 since nettle drone has devoid, it’s ping damage will not be replaced with axonil’s ability. Axonil specifies red sources and devoid makes it have no color.
@@Rice_Spicee its an easy thing to miss! I only caught it because a buddy built morophon as 5 color colorless so he could have a decent home for the less powerful eldrazi that actually works (he whoops my ass most of the time when he plays it unless i play pubstompy stuff against it, so its clearly not a bad call lol)
One include for pingy decks like these that Ive loved since highschool is Chandra's spitfire. 2R for a 1/3 creature elemental with flying and whenever AN opponent is dealt noncombat damage it gets +3/+0 until end of turn. You just need a few table pings and can very easily get in for lethal on someone super early on even without your commander if its getting removed
Had a casual Spitfire deck... That was a nasty little deck. Ran every form of one or less burn spell ranging from Gut Shot to Lava Dart and and ran the Llorwyn Flamekin to tutor, ramp, and add extra burn with Cinder Pyromancer. The deck could turn that Spitfire massive out of nowhere.
Another creature for the targeted ping effects that is good is imodane the pyrohammer because why shock 1 person when you can target a creature and send the same damage to all opponents?
1:25 something worth noting for axonil: the back side doesn’t specify that the 4 noncombat damage had to be dealt to an opponent. So if you have something like a mana barbs, or descent into avernus, you can use the damage against yourself to flip it back over, before you ever do anything else.
Love that you went with a very budget deck option. It can be ramped up with cards like Manabarbs or Pyrohemia, but it's not necessary to have it play well (and strong). IMO, everyone should have a deck like this to speed up games at your table when things are getting slow!
Speaking of LCI as a set, i bought veloci-ramp-tor precon the other day, and the collector booster sample had a non-foil full art cavern of souls. I was pretty excited, not that i needed it or anything i have a couple and proxies of it, but still i pulled a full art mythic edh staple!
I just deck teched this yesterday on a $75 budget. You are missing out on acidic soil at like $1 as a massive haymaker. Reprecussion which is under $3 and mana barbs as well. End the festivities and Tectonic hazard are also solid.
Acidic soil’s errata says “acidic soil deals damage to each player equal to the number of lands they control” So it won’t be a bunch of pings multiplied, it’s just one sum. Still can get a lot of damage for 3 mana though but it becomes more symmetrical.
Maybe someone mentioned this, but I would also recommend Grapeshot. With so many small spells being cast on Axonil's turn, massive damage can be dealt. Also, Grapeshot is about 25 cents, so it is very budget friendly.
Yeah grapeshot is great. You don't need to be a typical storm deck for it to be absolutely devastating. Even just as the 3rd or 4th spell, especially since it creates multiple spell casting triggers for all your permanents that care about those.
I did a rough calculation with Axonil, Solphim, End the Festivities, City on Fire, Erebor Flamesmith...And a few other things, the max was around 36k damage from a 1 damage hit on all creatures, players, and planeswalkers.
Don't know if you know, but when a single instance triggers multiple replacement effects, the affected player gets to decide the order on which those resolve. For this same reason I ended up cutting every damage doubler and the like, for more pump effects for Axonil. In your example, I would first resolve either Solphim or City on Fire then the other (in both cases the damage would be 6), then Axonil (which would do nothing). So 6 damage from the Spell and 6 from the ping, for a grand total of 12. Hope it helps!
So excited to see this video. I just built this deck when the new set came out. I added a few more cards that were not necessarily land, hate or land destruction. But ramp hate. I figure I'm in red if I can't ramp screw the green players 😂 Blood moon Magus of the Moon Citadel of pain Cemetery gatekeeper Manabarbs Price of progress War's toll Zo-Zu The punisher If blood moons not your thing, it can always be replaced by burning Earth which deals damage but personally I never run blood moon and I really wanted a reason. Thanks, wizards!
Side note. The alternate art for this card is beautiful! And the full art lands from the set "unfinity" is a freaking eclipse!!! The moon covering the sun!!! Super flavorful. Love those lands!
I built this deck the second I was able to get my hands on Ojer. It is the strongest deck I have ever used, and it is currently undefeated since it does not look threatening at all when you sit down at a pod. I will be so sad when this reputation eventually catches on and people won't play against it lmao.
Repercussion - Any damage dealt to a creature is dealt to that creature's controller. Chandra's Ignition - Target creature deals damage equal to its power to each creature and each opponent. Even with an unmodified Ojer, each opponent is taking 4*(number of creatures they control + 1), which can be deadly if they have a lot of tokens. Even without Ojer, just substitute Chandra's Ignition with Blasphemous Act, then they're taking 13*(number of creatures they control), and GGs.
I would replace Nettle Drone, a non-bo, with You've Been Caught Stealing. The card synergizes as a non-creature, mana positive, ramp spell that creates artifacts meaning that you get multiple pinger triggers and it sets up another round of damage
I am so glad you did this video! You took the deck in a bit of a different direction than I did. I used a lot of instant and sorcery spells to pump Ojer Axonil to tap/untap the pingers. As I started building the deck, I loved how budget it was.
How could you not include Mana Clash ($0.71) you and a opponent keep flipping coins to damage each other until both come up heads at same time. the 1 damage to you stays the same and the 1 damage to them becomes Commander's power.
Repercussion is also a really funny enchantment with Ojer and a bunch of ping all creatures for 1 spells since every creature will take one repercussion will deal 1 for each creature to its controller which will then be pumped up to Ojer’s power
I have taken this idea in another direction. 10-20% are "deal 1 damage to all opponents" and the remaining cards are "Whenever an opponent ..., deal 1 damage." (like manabarbs). SELF BURN
This dude was the top of my must buy/brew list for this set. I have a feeling the deck might be too strong for my pod even throttled down. Just seems insane!
This commander seems rad but imo it’s only going to work on a pod once and then people will realize they just need to deal with Ojer Axonil. There’s so many ways to “deactivate” him. I’d personally try to sprinkle in some protection for him via other equipment darksteel plate, whispersilk cloak, lightning greaves ect. in an attempt to make him a bit harder to kill. There is certainly ways to make this more efficient and lethal but idk if it’s possible on a low end budget.
??Newbie Question?? Since it Transforms, does Ojer Axonil get around the "Commander Tax"? If not, when is it paid? Thanks in advance for any clarification!
commander taxs adds up for every time you need to cast your commander from the command zone. So it dying and turning into a land will not influence the commander tax no matter how often you do this...
I have a ghyrson pinger deck already. But ojer axonil looks like a really strong commander. Especially if you can up his power level. Ghyrson has blue so card draw and protection is a bonus. Really want to build this deck also.
A little late and probably someone already said it: You showed a creature to be part of the deck, an Eldrazi pinger, that won't work with Axonil as it is Devoid ( colorless )
Raid bombardment and cavalcade of calamity each deal one to player or planes walker whenever a creature you control with power two or less or power 1 (respectively) attacks. Cheap spells that create 1/1 tokens to destroy your opponents. Oooh and scald to mess with blue players
@patrickcamus2842 Yep you are right cause Ojer overrides the doubling. If it's just straight doubling then it doesn't matter what order cause 2 x 2 is always 4.
@@meb212 because weird rule that says that if 2 replacement effect want to apply at the same time the affected player chooses the order of them. So opponent who is taking 1 damage is just going to choose to triple the damage and then Ojer making it kind of useless most of the times.
Valakut exploration is an amazing card for this deck. It is inexpensive, gives you impulse draw, and pings all opponents if you don’t play the exiled card.
So honestly with how busted this commander is I’m surprised he only needs 4 damage done to flip back over. Normally stuff like this requires 7+ damage done and it needs to be to AN OPPONENT (see the red hideaway land), but this just says “deal 4 or more noncombat damage with a red source” so that means it could be 4 damage split among any targets as long as you control the source. So one activation of pyrohemia fulfills the requirement multiple times over.
This seems fun but is definitely a one trick pony deck that will only work once at Friday Night Magic. After people see the deck in operation they will understand that the commander is a kill on sight situation. Once / if the commander is dealt with then this deck kinda seems dead in the water.
9:41 since nettle drone has devoid, it’s ping damage will not be replaced with axonil’s ability. Axonil specifies red sources and devoid makes it have no color.
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Oh shit I honestly forgot Devoid existed. I gotta cut that from my deck
@@Rice_Spicee its an easy thing to miss! I only caught it because a buddy built morophon as 5 color colorless so he could have a decent home for the less powerful eldrazi that actually works (he whoops my ass most of the time when he plays it unless i play pubstompy stuff against it, so its clearly not a bad call lol)
One include for pingy decks like these that Ive loved since highschool is Chandra's spitfire. 2R for a 1/3 creature elemental with flying and whenever AN opponent is dealt noncombat damage it gets +3/+0 until end of turn. You just need a few table pings and can very easily get in for lethal on someone super early on even without your commander if its getting removed
I love that card! It’s so busted!
Had a casual Spitfire deck... That was a nasty little deck. Ran every form of one or less burn spell ranging from Gut Shot to Lava Dart and and ran the Llorwyn Flamekin to tutor, ramp, and add extra burn with Cinder Pyromancer. The deck could turn that Spitfire massive out of nowhere.
Another creature for the targeted ping effects that is good is imodane the pyrohammer because why shock 1 person when you can target a creature and send the same damage to all opponents?
I use triggers from opponents choices on their turns. If I trigger NCD to "all opponents", then I can get +9/0 in THEIR turn?
Bro my standard spitfire deck was NASTY I miss playing it in standard
1:25 something worth noting for axonil: the back side doesn’t specify that the 4 noncombat damage had to be dealt to an opponent. So if you have something like a mana barbs, or descent into avernus, you can use the damage against yourself to flip it back over, before you ever do anything else.
Love that you went with a very budget deck option. It can be ramped up with cards like Manabarbs or Pyrohemia, but it's not necessary to have it play well (and strong). IMO, everyone should have a deck like this to speed up games at your table when things are getting slow!
Speaking of LCI as a set, i bought veloci-ramp-tor precon the other day, and the collector booster sample had a non-foil full art cavern of souls. I was pretty excited, not that i needed it or anything i have a couple and proxies of it, but still i pulled a full art mythic edh staple!
I just deck teched this yesterday on a $75 budget. You are missing out on acidic soil at like $1 as a massive haymaker. Reprecussion which is under $3 and mana barbs as well. End the festivities and Tectonic hazard are also solid.
Acidic soil’s errata says “acidic soil deals damage to each player equal to the number of lands they control”
So it won’t be a bunch of pings multiplied, it’s just one sum. Still can get a lot of damage for 3 mana though but it becomes more symmetrical.
Maybe someone mentioned this, but I would also recommend Grapeshot. With so many small spells being cast on Axonil's turn, massive damage can be dealt. Also, Grapeshot is about 25 cents, so it is very budget friendly.
Yeah grapeshot is great. You don't need to be a typical storm deck for it to be absolutely devastating. Even just as the 3rd or 4th spell, especially since it creates multiple spell casting triggers for all your permanents that care about those.
Blazing shoal + (Volcanic Salvo OR Blasphemous Act)
I did a rough calculation with Axonil, Solphim, End the Festivities, City on Fire, Erebor Flamesmith...And a few other things, the max was around 36k damage from a 1 damage hit on all creatures, players, and planeswalkers.
Don't know if you know, but when a single instance triggers multiple replacement effects, the affected player gets to decide the order on which those resolve. For this same reason I ended up cutting every damage doubler and the like, for more pump effects for Axonil.
In your example, I would first resolve either Solphim or City on Fire then the other (in both cases the damage would be 6), then Axonil (which would do nothing). So 6 damage from the Spell and 6 from the ping, for a grand total of 12. Hope it helps!
Will Nettle Drone trigger Ojer since it technically has no color?
So excited to see this video. I just built this deck when the new set came out.
I added a few more cards that were not necessarily land, hate or land destruction. But ramp hate. I figure I'm in red if I can't ramp screw the green players 😂
Blood moon
Magus of the Moon
Citadel of pain
Cemetery gatekeeper
Manabarbs
Price of progress
War's toll
Zo-Zu The punisher
If blood moons not your thing, it can always be replaced by burning Earth which deals damage but personally I never run blood moon and I really wanted a reason. Thanks, wizards!
Side note. The alternate art for this card is beautiful!
And the full art lands from the set "unfinity" is a freaking eclipse!!! The moon covering the sun!!! Super flavorful. Love those lands!
I built this deck the second I was able to get my hands on Ojer. It is the strongest deck I have ever used, and it is currently undefeated since it does not look threatening at all when you sit down at a pod. I will be so sad when this reputation eventually catches on and people won't play against it lmao.
Repercussion - Any damage dealt to a creature is dealt to that creature's controller.
Chandra's Ignition - Target creature deals damage equal to its power to each creature and each opponent.
Even with an unmodified Ojer, each opponent is taking 4*(number of creatures they control + 1), which can be deadly if they have a lot of tokens.
Even without Ojer, just substitute Chandra's Ignition with Blasphemous Act, then they're taking 13*(number of creatures they control), and GGs.
I'm surprised you didn't mention flame jab. 1 damage to any target for R and it has retrace
I would replace Nettle Drone, a non-bo, with You've Been Caught Stealing. The card synergizes as a non-creature, mana positive, ramp spell that creates artifacts meaning that you get multiple pinger triggers and it sets up another round of damage
Favorite thing has been to run him with Birgi, God of Storytelling and Urabrask to just storm out with card draw cantrips!
13:14 Of course!
I am so glad you did this video! You took the deck in a bit of a different direction than I did. I used a lot of instant and sorcery spells to pump Ojer Axonil to tap/untap the pingers. As I started building the deck, I loved how budget it was.
How could you not include Mana Clash ($0.71) you and a opponent keep flipping coins to damage each other until both come up heads at same time. the 1 damage to you stays the same and the 1 damage to them becomes Commander's power.
Repercussion is also a really funny enchantment with Ojer and a bunch of ping all creatures for 1 spells since every creature will take one repercussion will deal 1 for each creature to its controller which will then be pumped up to Ojer’s power
I have taken this idea in another direction. 10-20% are "deal 1 damage to all opponents" and the remaining cards are "Whenever an opponent ..., deal 1 damage." (like manabarbs). SELF BURN
can't wait to put this in the 99 of my Gyrson starn deck.
The Irencrag. 2-drop mana rock for the early game. +3/+3 buff for Axonil in the mid game. And it's only 50 cents.
This dude was the top of my must buy/brew list for this set. I have a feeling the deck might be too strong for my pod even throttled down. Just seems insane!
This commander seems rad but imo it’s only going to work on a pod once and then people will realize they just need to deal with Ojer Axonil. There’s so many ways to “deactivate” him. I’d personally try to sprinkle in some protection for him via other equipment darksteel plate, whispersilk cloak, lightning greaves ect. in an attempt to make him a bit harder to kill. There is certainly ways to make this more efficient and lethal but idk if it’s possible on a low end budget.
@@1859ddd in my deck i simply threw in a few of the replacement commanders like torbrand for back up and to keep the deck going
Very cool deck idea! Thanks again Mitch!
Valakut exploration seems good
Maybe an Aclazotz, Deepest Betrayal deck next? 👀
I don't think nettle drone works because of its devoid ability
yeah it's not a red source, just a colorless source
I like this deck a lot, it plays similar to my Rowan, Scion of War deck.
Would love to see a video on Tetzin, Gnome Champion :)
??Newbie Question?? Since it Transforms, does Ojer Axonil get around the "Commander Tax"? If not, when is it paid? Thanks in advance for any clarification!
commander taxs adds up for every time you need to cast your commander from the command zone. So it dying and turning into a land will not influence the commander tax no matter how often you do this...
I have a ghyrson pinger deck already. But ojer axonil looks like a really strong commander. Especially if you can up his power level. Ghyrson has blue so card draw and protection is a bonus. Really want to build this deck also.
A little late and probably someone already said it: You showed a creature to be part of the deck, an Eldrazi pinger, that won't work with Axonil as it is Devoid ( colorless )
I just got a draft box for this set and drew into ojer and eveytime i open packs i seem to get good red cards i think the universe is giving me a sign
Raid bombardment and cavalcade of calamity each deal one to player or planes walker whenever a creature you control with power two or less or power 1 (respectively) attacks. Cheap spells that create 1/1 tokens to destroy your opponents. Oooh and scald to mess with blue players
Would doubling damage not stack right? Like dictate of the twin gods?
The receiver of the damage chooses the time for the doubling. You would like 2D => 4 then *2 =8. But they can choose 2D *2 = 4 and no Ojer trigger.
@patrickcamus2842 Yep you are right cause Ojer overrides the doubling. If it's just straight doubling then it doesn't matter what order cause 2 x 2 is always 4.
Would fiery emancipation help with this? How would that stack?
Nope
@@willemvanthoff8708 in what way would it not stack?
@@meb212 because weird rule that says that if 2 replacement effect want to apply at the same time the affected player chooses the order of them. So opponent who is taking 1 damage is just going to choose to triple the damage and then Ojer making it kind of useless most of the times.
Grafted wargear to help pump?
I was going to use him as upgrade commander for your imodane deck
Valakut exploration is an amazing card for this deck. It is inexpensive, gives you impulse draw, and pings all opponents if you don’t play the exiled card.
How does this work with Solphim? Can my opponent choose to get double dmg and then Ojer? So Solphim does nothing there?
Opponents choose the order of effects, so yes in most cases solphim will do nothing.
Manabarbs would be kinda funny to put in.
So good
So honestly with how busted this commander is I’m surprised he only needs 4 damage done to flip back over. Normally stuff like this requires 7+ damage done and it needs to be to AN OPPONENT (see the red hideaway land), but this just says “deal 4 or more noncombat damage with a red source” so that means it could be 4 damage split among any targets as long as you control the source. So one activation of pyrohemia fulfills the requirement multiple times over.
Pulled this card last week. Going straight into my Tor Wauki the younger deck
Does anyone have a quick upgrade list for this deck??? Budget is open... Thanks!
I like Manabarbs personally. Four damage to an opponent every time they tap a land? Sounds good.
I'd love to see a break the bank version of this deck
Imagine Ojer Adonil in a shabraz + brallin deck! For every card you discard, it would deal 4 damage instead
Manabarbs is a good upgrade
Please do the upgrade for the Explorers of the deep precon!
Burning Earth and Mana Barbs missing is criminal.
I've been getting my ass kicked all over arena by this deck
Barrage of Boulders, and Electrickery.
bought the foil alter art for 9.50€ yesterday. Could have bought the normal version for 5€. Man cards seem to be more expensiv on the american country
McKenzie Knolls
Breanna Lights
Bergstrom Extensions
I really wish there was a break the bank for this deck
Acidic Soil wins games in this deck
This seems fun but is definitely a one trick pony deck that will only work once at Friday Night Magic. After people see the deck in operation they will understand that the commander is a kill on sight situation. Once / if the commander is dealt with then this deck kinda seems dead in the water.
Joyce Orchard
Nicklaus Station
Just played against this Commander. Brutal indeed.
Rory Mountains
Nettle drown does not work because it’s not a red source
Lenna Meadow
Wilderman Junction
Kessler Islands
Cormier Trail
Linnea Square
Manabarbs, that is all
Alysson Neck
Stehr Lodge
Emerald Gateway
Shane Squares
Gislason Flats
Domenica Via
Fleta Junctions
Kian Neck
Wuckert Crossing
Roma Shore
Jones Camp
Madie Points
Lowell Locks
Hayes Via
Ronaldo Fort
have ojet Axonil weild Toralf red god as a hammer 😂 a god weilding a god ontop of black blade 😂😂
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You were second. See my other comment
Thiel Station
Smith Summit