2024 Porsche 911 T Good or Gimmick?
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
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Porsche 911 T: Purist's Delight
The Porsche 911 T is a driver-focused take on the iconic sports car. It sheds some luxuries for a lighter weight, sharper handling, and more engaging experience.
Highlights:
Engaging Drive: Lighter weight, sharper steering, and a glorious manual transmission make the 911 T a joy to drive.
Stripped-Down Focus: Less sound deadening and the option to forego rear seats enhance the connection between driver and car.
Performance: Still no slouch, with a 0-60 mph time around 4.5 seconds and a thrilling engine sound.
Trade-Offs:
Bare-Bones Interior: The focus on lightweighting can make the cabin feel a bit basic compared to other 911s.
Not the Fastest: While quick, the 911 T prioritizes handling over mind-blowing acceleration.
Price: Still a Porsche, with a starting price over $100,000.
Overall:
The 911 T is a Porsche for enthusiasts who crave a pure driving experience. It sacrifices some comfort for a lighter, more communicative car that begs to be pushed on a twisty road. - Авто та транспорт
My 24T manual is brilliant. Complete home run. 1600 miles in the first two weeks 😂
Thrilled to bespoke a car at MSRP and avoid all the dealer games.
This car will age well.
Amazing! MSRP is the only way to go. I am done with paying over for anything. Good for you! Congrats and enjoy!
Idk, all the videos I’ve seen on it, the gears look too long and the shifter looks rubbery. The GT3 shifter or S/T shifter is the only ones that are worth it…..
@@SparklingWalrus I’ve drive a T and GTS in manual, and they are so mechanical and notchy. It’s the best I’ve felt.
@@shyguyy92 gt3 still has a vastly superior shifter
Right on brother!! I’m enjoying my 24T as well. I did a few night runs myself the first couple weeks and got it up to about the same mileage as you. Such a fun car to drive. Did you get yours with the wing option? People who aren’t super familiar with the Carrera T I tell them it’s like a GT3 an a Turbo S had a kid lol. Enjoy it
Best 911 I’ve driven! And I’ve driven many of them
I own a 24 T in chalk - have to agree, it's purist. It's simple. You can drive the shit out of it (without going to a race track). It makes me smile every time I get in it.
100%
The T makes sense, even with PDK because it’s still faster than a manual. Also, it comes standard with PASM, Electronic Slip Diff, able to option RAS, and Sport Chrono. You have to option those on an S and can’t get RAS on a base. I personally think it’s the sweet spot, especially if you really love driving.
Can’t agree more!
Save money while getting all the important bits
I ordered my MY24 Carrera T with all the lightweight and performance options (slick top, 4-way sport+ seats, 7 speed MT, RAS) but loaded it with leather, Race Tex and deviated stitching, and I got the best of both worlds.
Sounds sexy
I love the fact that there is a market for cars that are not "max spec", i.e., it need not have 7,000 HP in order to be fun. This car, to me, is analogous to the Toyota GR86 (albeit written much larger!). It is plenty fast enough, looks spectacular, and most of all: it puts a smile on your face. Which is exactly what a sports car is supposed to do.
Smiles for miles. Couldn’t agree more 👍
The gr86 is a junk reskinned Subaru that is unreliable with a trash engine. Never put it in the same sentence as the 911 ever again.
I totally agree with your take on tuning . I drive a base model g80 m3. I won’t tune it. These engineers are pretty good at what they do. Plus you can only use so much power on the road. Give me a manual and a little bit of power and I’m a happy camper . Cool vid. I honestly didn’t even know about the “T”.
For my decent lifestyle aged at 53 years young.. I'm very happy with my Carrera S 2024 ... I love driving it with a smile
All that matters is that YOU like it 👍
Nice review, thanks!
I drive a manual T. It is truly a great drivers car. Little bit big and wide, like all 992s. Honestly, these weight reduction stuff is a kind of marketing gimmick. But it maybe contributes to the emotions. Things like light weight glass and light weight batteries are not practical in a daily or weekend driver and expensive to replace. You do not feel 35kg in modern 1500kg sports car anyway. The T is road not track oriented. It really feels like classic Porsche with more of that analogue feeling. I think those is the true sense and the big achievement of this model. I would skip RAS for that reason. But if you like it, go for it. And if you are after performance you should definitely go for PDK or a stronger model.
For sure a road focused car. However you can track this and enjoy. It’s just never going to be a GT3
Good coverage. This is a well engineered car, it reminds me a lot of older 1970’s-1990’s 911 cars, analog (love the manual Trans). If more power is required, a tune is a no brainer.
Is stage one tune is probably fine. I’d argue. It’s not not necessary though.
love the color
Thanks
Fantastic review man. Very well done! I cant wait to take delivery of mine in August! Think I got one of the last T allocations tbh. I got it in white, black gloss aerokit, carbon roof, carbon bucket, rear seat delete, no RAS, 7speed, no leather package)
That sounds like a track spec, congratulations!
Own a 24 T and love it. I concur with your assessment. The key is to keep it as option free as you can.
That’s hard to do, right?
Those GT 3 skirts were never offered on the 911 T. Great retrofit however
Nice catch ;)
It’s so perfect in person. And they’re better than the sport side skirts that cost more than double.
This model was aimed for people like me that had a 911 with pdk in it, and it just gets boring. You do need a manual for this type of vehicle. Thank you for the video save your money and get a manual 911 folks
Truth at 9:54 I really think Porsche turned the exhaust and internal cabin noise to the driver rather than the public. My selfish to the driver, which, in the end, who is the experience really for? And totally agree that we want our cars to sound good to others as well. 😊
I think the T is about the driver. Sure you can upgrade the exhaust, tune, wheels and suspension if you want. But out of the box is amazing for like 99% of owners.
mines 2-3 weeks out from delivery. i specd with buckets and aerokit, rear axle etc. cant wait!
Sounds like an awesome spec
Have a 23 S and a 24 T. One with PDK, the other has a manual. Two different cars. One is Touring and T, is when I want to DRIVE. Only drawback is after four hours on the road, the tire noise with the reduced sound insulation on the T starts to really be tiring .
What tires are you on? I think the Michelins are quieter
The Carrera T is obviously a very good choice indeed. With the manual box of course. I would add the front lift. 😎
The T feels like an improved 911 driven fast. Its a great experience
I've had other 911's with the manual, and I still say PDK is the way to go. It's just a better transmission. And you can focus on the road or track and go even faster. Also 18 way seats are awful either go 4 way or full buckets.
Couple of weekends ago I was at the track with another Porsche enthusiast. He was in a turbo S. By the end of the day, do you know what he said to me? I love my PDK but I wish it was more involving like your manual. I think that’s the point. Anyone can have a preference whether it stick shift or PDK but at the end of the day, nothing is more involving than a manual.
How does it compare with the GTS? I sold my GTS and currently waiting for a T, so I'd like to get your perspective since you've had both! Thanks.
Both great cars. And honestly kind of similar to drive. However the GTS always feels like there is more under your right foot. And you almost never use it.
With the T it’s not the case. Also maybe it’s because the T trim is sold in lower numbers but it somehow feels a bit more rare.
I Guess I’d say the GTS is a touring car where the T is a where you live car.
Either choice is A+!
But the T costs so much less, which I really appreciate
I also have a 2024 T in Ice Grey - love the car but I do think it could use more power. The great thing is these cars are built to handle lots of power from a tune without issue or additional upgraded needed - engine internals are the same for the GTS model and if you are willing to swap the turbos you are at 600hp. The chassis would not be upset at all going to Carrera S power level with the same exact suspension as Carrera S...
I agree!
These cars can “handle” lots more power and easily. But the once you add significant more power, the brakes start to show their weakness. So the balance is what gets affected. From the factory the T is pretty happy.
But yes, you can tune it and get more if you want. But a track day would be where you notice the unbalance more than anywhere else. Normal everyday driving, no real difference
I’m glad you brought up the Z06. I’m sure I’m not the only one crossshoping these two. Yes one is clearly faster and yes one has a better community, but the Z is the last NA high revving V8 and this T may be the last manual 911 without hybrid. Both will be keepers either way.
Great points.
Buy what you like. I still think the test drive will help a buyer decide versus just reviews. Drive it and if it speaks to you, god bless!
I also think about resale because I don’t keep cars that long. You don’t lose that much with Porsche.
“Upset the balance of the car”
Agree to disagree… perfect car to tune Porsche only tuned it this way to not step on toes of S or GTS. Tune is 2500, if you can afford the T you can afford 2500.
I think a stage one tune for the street is no big deal. But if you would’ve taken it to a track, then you start to see if you’ve created some weaknesses primarily in the brakes. Don’t believe me check it out for yourself and get back to me.
Plenty of track over here; well aware. You can do a stage one tune on this car and change nothing else. Even stage 2 tune your not going to change out rotors and pads. If you tracking your changing out pads and rotors anyways. Stage 2 you’re doing filters on this car and thats it. Once again the car is 140-160k anyone buying this car can afford that.
I like the T but calling it lightweight is gimmicky. The difference between a regular base Carrera and the T is around 30 lbs. That’s less than 1% difference. If I fuel up 4 gallons of gasoline (roughly 30 lbs) less to a Carrera, can I call it lightweight equivalent? Will be there a noticeable performance difference? Some of you reviewers are like Porsche programmed robots. i.e. 9000 rpm!!! Like some miracle. My motorcycle does 14,000 rpm. So what.
I don’t disagree with you that the difference in weight is really not that much between the T and other trims. However, Porsche’s marketing department wants you to believe otherwise. My perspective is that this is the best value in the lineup, regardless of weight. Because it’s the lowest cost manual that you can get. And if you are a drive enthusiast that can afford this price point. You have to put this on your list of cars to evaluate. So your point about lightweight is not really my point. My point is this is a great car that is being offered at a value and we should have more options like this in the industry. I apologize if that point gets lost in the video. That’s on me.
Thanks for watching 🙏
👏🏾PDK👏🏾with👏🏾lightweight 👏🏾is still👏🏾lightweight
Kind of tired when people say getting the PDK makes it heavier.
PDK is still faster and its still lighter than the non lightweight with PDK.
Nothing wrong with PDK. But there are better models suited to PDK than the T. Otherwise why would the T trim be any different than an S? Why would Porsche bother to do any light weighting if the T is basically a base carrera? The PDK adds back the majority of the weight taken out by other elements. However it’s still relatively light overall even with PDK. No one is disputing that.
Exactly! It’s still faster than the manual. Agree 100%
@@PointShiftDriveis it really that much weight cut? They also offer it on the GTS. It's lighter but the auto makes it faster so it's a moot point. You get the manual only because you want the manual
@@curtdragonyou might be missing the point of the T. No one is saying manual is faster. It’s about driving pleasure and engagement.
If you want a PDK, get one. If you want a manual, get one.
It’s not about being fastest. Because if that is the exercise, you get a turbo S.
RaceChip weights nothing!
Love the looks but for comparable priced, Z4 M40i now with manual.
Not the same driving experience but I get there are other cars for cheaper that offer more.
Clicked off the video when he said “Porsche. Carrera. 911. T. “
Good call 👍
Light came at the expense of light weight glass and more interior noise is not worth it. Couldn't understand why so obsessed with lightness since 911 is not that heavy anyway. Car sturdiness is much more desirable. Bought a 2023 992.1 c2s. Solid and not heavy. Love it. Will never buy a T.
If you don’t drive in on a mountain road with lots of runway, you won’t ever understand that lighter is better. So this isn’t for everyone. And that’s okay. 👍
But I don’t understand what you mean by “sturdiness.” The T is no different than any other Carrera for sale today if you mean chassis stiffness.
Drive through the Marin Headlands in that car must have been great.
@@jonathanbell9396 it’s a treat driving the T anywhere :)
Another variant of porsche 911. Omg, seriously??? This is strait out of Apple play book. Mac book m2, m3, m4 same shit different day.
You want cruiser ? Buy cayman, want street cat gt3, want off road get roaster want track car buy gtrs. ALl this could have been solved with one car and 4 buttons..
All of this cars carry same flat 6 engine with different tune.
Welcome to the world of Porsche. A 911 for everyone.
dude its an overpriced freaking Volkswagen with less metal, more plastic, and a way more delicate engine. you wanna go shopping drive in traffic and drive on country roads at speed limit, buy a Volkswagen and see how many more smiles you get thinking you saved 120.000$
PORSCHE , THE CAR COMPANY THAT SELLS YOU PLASTIC AT FINEST EATHER PRICES.
recycle quick
I have owned many VWs. They don’t deliver in the same way a Porsche can.
@@PointShiftDrive buy 5 ay once,... and what delivery you need exactly? try a lamborghini...u cant fid as recent good used one at these price tags.... and you know what???.... they actually cone with interiors worth the price
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