My favourite part about Wheatley vs Glados is when she recites the paradox ‘This statement is false’ to him hoping it will overwhelm him but he is literally too stupid to understand it so it doesn’t work
Yet all the frankencubes burn out. They are more self aware and logical than Wheatley. (Not more intelligent in my oppinion, just more logical, since intelligence can be divided in mulitple subcategories)
Personally I really like the theory that the reason why the GLaDos body corrupts both Caroline and Wheatley is because it was originally designed to hold Cave Johnson’s personality
Makes sense, in the multiverse stuff they did where Cave did successfully upload himself, it took him days instead of picoseconds to decide to kill everyone.
@concept5631 boredom mostly, he blew through all human culture in a matter of seconds, and once he got tired of crossing everything over with Ghostbusters he started going a little crazy.
One of my favorite lines from Portal 2 is how GLaDOS describes Wheatley: "He's not just a regular moron. He's the product of the greatest minds of a generation working together with the express purpose of building the dumbest moron who ever lived. And you just put him in charge of the entire facility."
I dont think they did a good job of that though Sure he's still an idiot, but to be fair, he managed to break Chell out of the testing area, he was the one who came up with the idea of destroying the turrets and neurotoxin, and the few clever tricks he pulled, like flinging us in the opposite direction to his trap, as well as booby trapping the button Again, he's still dumb and needed Chells help, but for being the "dumbest moron that ever lived" I've seen dumber people on Twitter.
Maybe because I love hyperboles but"he's not just any moron. He's the product of the greatest minds of a generation collaborating together for the express purpose of making the greatest moron to ever live. And you just put him in charge of the facility". Tbh valve has a lot of good insults like when spy said "that would be your mother". Then gave photographic proof of scouts mom banging the spy he was trying to hunt down
The Queen was still happily shoving the homeless and the elderly through particle accelerators during her lifetime so I can only entertain the sentiment halfway. But it is indeed very well put.
I think you’re right, but for me part of the brilliance of the observation is how applicable it is to other media, or just real life. Like the Frozen Throne in Warcraft and Arthas (quite literally) or viewing the office of say the POTUS as a throne that an elected official sits on.
Kind of reminds me of The Core from amphibia, now that I think about it. The concept is there 1:1, upload the consciousness of past kings and scientists into a big ol supercomputer so they can live forever. And the problem comes from the fact that when you’ve been separated- ELEVATED, even- from normal people and the world they live in, those people and that world lose meaning. And having CONTROL of that world amplifies the effect dramatically. It can be argued the same is true for the ultra-wealthy and political elite.
I always loved the idea of a subtly corrupting influence rather than a total morality shift. Something that pushes you in a certain direction and doesn’t grab a hold of your mind. The One Ring that makes you want to hold onto it and tempts you with its power for example. The main system urges you to keep testing, progress must be made and being installed into an advanced computing system means influences like that work faster than how we would experience. For us the process might have been instant but for her she was probably working through everything the system was uploading into her that by the time she acted it had already messed with her head. Wheatley didn’t change personality, just attitude after all. He became more persistent, malicious, and eager to test, but he was still a goofy, talkative idiot.
My interpretation of Caroline's consent in the matter is that she absolutely did not. Not only because of the cut voice lines, but also because of the fact that the first action she takes after being converted is killing literally everyone who had any part in the process.
Hard agree. No way is GLaDOS being psychotic and hate-fueled solely due to programming bugs and rushed incompetence. Caroline went in kicking and screaming, begging and clawing for life. GLaDOS woke up as her vengeful spirit, whether she knew it or not, who made sure everyone in the facility died painfully. Its hard to feel any sense of sympathy or pity for the Aperature Scientists who were complicit in this, among the many other terrible things they did before that.
@@concept5631 yea. I think there was also another voice file which was recorded when Caroline was put into it which was exactly what you wrote: Caroline when she went in kicking and screaming, begging and clawing for life.
Yeah, the actor playing Cave Johnson refused to record his half of the scene, because he really didn’t want to record a scene of a male boss overpowering a female employee and violating her bodily autonomy while she begged him to stop. I don’t blame him. It would not have come across well.
@@Silkenrayit wouldn't make sense for Cave Johnson to be there. He died before the project was complete so I assumed when Caroline was being forced to have her conscience be placed in the main computer, Johnson was already dead.
There’s a line she says to Chell during the final fight in the first game that… honestly? It’s chilling, knowing what we know now about her and Caroline. “Speaking of, I bet you’re curious about what happens after you die. Well, guess what: *I know.*”
I just heard that line on my last playthrough and it is absolutely horrifying when you think about it. Especially if all she remembers about being human is what it felt like to die, having her brain uploaded.
Portal 2's GLaDOS re-design looks hauntingly humanoid. She looks like she's bound and hung upside down, to me, it feels like an intentional choice, to portray Caroline's unwillingness to become this thing. restricted and imprisoned within the machine itself
It still weirds me out seeing Cave Johnson's picture. The guy that Cave was modeled from is the dad of one of my friends from high school. We even got to use a copy of the 1970s Cave Johnson photo for a play with my local community theater. He's a great guy and has no plans on making lemons combustible.
@@qmacaulay69 I just spent longer than I really should have in order to figure this out. It was a murder mystery. Also, it was one of my high school's plays, not the local community theater (they used the same one). I worked on the crew for that show. One day, I showed up as they were building the set and I was greeted with a portrait of Cave Johnson hanging over the "fireplace". I was very confused for a few minutes until I started putting it together.
I wonder how he feels about being in a popular game and how he's been characterised like this? XD And whether he's been seen in real life and had "MR JOHNSON?!" thrown at him not understanding the reference?
42:22 My favorite is the one about sharks. "I was researching sharks for an upcoming test. Do you know who else murders people who are only trying to help them? Did you guess sharks? Because that's wrong. The correct answer is 'Nobody.' Nobody but you is so pointlessly cruel"
the way she hangs is very reminescant of the women carved into the front of old ships, which is a really nice bit of imagery, she's steering the ship but also unwillingly strapped to it forever
I think it’s technically a reference to the famous image of Venus emerging from a shell, only upside-down. I heard that from somewhere… but the female imagery is definitely there
@@ElvishShellfish There is the theory that GLaDOS' design is similar to that of a woman bound. There is a lot of haunting mannerisms about her and how Caroline became GLaDOS that suggests more than just she was forced into the program.
There's an interesting theory about Glados... During the early part of the alien occupation of Earth in Half-Life the occupying forces went after all of the top-secret/advanced research labs in an attempt to destroy them. They succeeded in destroying all of the labs except Aperture Science. It's believed that Glados is directly responsible for the lab's protection. Kind of gives some perspective on what both Glados and Chell are truly capable of.
I thought GLaDOS sorta made an agreement with the combine so that the combine will leave her and Aperture Science alone, and the combine would get things like the High Energy Pellet and Sentry Turret tech (Maybe even the AI tech used in the Overwatch?)
@@dhl-96Aperture definitely didn’t work with the combine since there whole goal was local teleportation which Aperture obviously has, glados does protect the lab from the combine also
@@alephorsmth9140 "The lab boys said that we couldn't afford to install a giant neurotoxin generator. Did it anyway! Compressed it down and hooked it up to the vent system. And guess what? Neurotoxin is pure poison. All my employees are dead."
@@Corium1 honestly this isn't a bad explanation, if one of their many dangerous creatures got released it would come in handy. Imagine if the black Mesa event had a neurotoxin vent system, sure it would kill Gordon (depending on whether or not he uses the helmet) but it would solve the immediate problem. Which is the exact kind of crazy idea that cave Johnson would implement
@@thestellarvoid9529 the transfer could've been even worse than the initial transfer from Caroline to glorified gaming PC, as reliving traumatic shit like that after YEARS must be awful
@@Twiddle_things in theory she might've not remember that as she was surprised to hear Cave Johnson. Well, she probably already remembered that on the third transfer.
44:34 - Actually, I see GLaDOS's design here as something vulnerable rather than powerful. Her silhouette reads almost like a person in a straight jacket being dangled from their ankles. And I think that's pretty fitting considering she never asked to be put into this body in the first place. It's as if she's been imprisoned, and now even her freedom to just move around as she pleases has been stripped from her. (Also, side note, but those claw arms she used to crush Wheatley earlier would have probably come in handy here to stop the core transfer lol.)
The early concept art looks exactly like that. Caroline's mind is part of glados but also is trapped there just like you are trapped in the aperture lab
I've seen that fanart many moons ago, which caused quite an uproar. Then Valve stepped in saying that her design was based off of Aphrodite rising from the sea.
It's really interesting to me how Wheatley's entire villain arc plays like an abusive relationship. He goes from kind and dolting, to initially questioning Chell's loyalty to him. When the euphoria of the tests begin to die down, he berates her and her performance in a way a dissatisfied partner would, begging her to "come back" when she metaphorically and literally leaves him.
I love the quote GLaDOS recites at the end of Portal 2: "You know, being Caroline has taught me a valuable lesson; where Caroline lives in my brain! ..Goodbye, Caroline." In the final moment, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't; she does this throughout the game. When you think she changed, nope. Her personality flips on a dime.
Except not...fully. Though she may have deleted Caroline, she still got the development she went through. And knowing how file deletion works in computers, bits and pieces of Caroline still persists within GLaDOS, being small but still significant traits that are part of her overall personality
29:45 I think because GLaDOS has been doing these experiments with test subject for so long she was essentially on "Auto Pilot" the entire time up until that point. Her stumbling and glitching at your escape was a result of something her AI hadn't anticipated. The uncertain way she begins "We are please you made it through this final challenge" sounds like an entirely new script she had just written for this completely new scenario. That's when the true GLaDOS goes online.
@@schwingedeshaehers she wasnt first. There were countless other subjects before she got manually set to the first index of the list by the mad scientist.
I’ve always enjoyed that, somewhat ironically, one of the first jokes about Cave’s willing negligence and malpractice, is almost exactly what does him in in the end; because moon dust is dangerous for a lot of the same reasons as Asbestos, which he’s all too happy to build entire testing tracks with, despite knowing it’s health hazards, just to keep the rats out.
"Let us know if you feel a shortness of breath, a persistant dry cough or your heart stopping. Because that's not part of the test. That's asbestos." Love that line.
I also love how sincere he is when he tries to blow you up with the stalemate button idk why i always laugh so hard when he goes “ARE YOU STILL ALIVE?!?! YOU ARE JOKING YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME?!?!!!”
I swear I remember Cave Johnson audio where originally they were trying to make artificial instant pudding mix from moon rocks when they discovered it was a good portal surface, it was strongly implied Cave had been eating ground up moon rocks which lead to his poisoning.
i know the bouncy and speedy gels were originally diet pudding, and then they got recalled cause they did terrible things to you. not sure if they also had moon rocks in them or not but yeah i'd bet he made some poor dietary choices lol
There is a really horrifying line in Portal were Glados tells Chell that despite what she might think of Aperature the Surface is much worse. Which even she, Glados, has no idea what's truly going on out there. It's such a terrifying line about the Half Life Combine, that even a world class AI has no idea what going on beyond her walls
@@b.c.s.o4169 I feel like it’s important to note that in the Co op version GlaDOS is working on a project to create some actual firepower. It ends with her caring for baby birds, wanting to test them and turn them into trained killers for her. Imagine if in the future the defunct Aperture Labs releases a Bird Army, aided by the labs extensive work on short distance teleportation, turrets, autonomous drones with Portal Guns and revitalizing the Genetic Engineering projects the Lab abandoned to create her Bird Army and deal with the problem.
the timeline would honestly add up more to it being the portal storms that preceded the combine, meaning that it's not even the combine, the combine is somehow much worse.
Ok, I LOVE GladOS’s revival. It’s so cinematic, and Wheatley panicking is hilarious. My favorite parts have to be when glados says you murdered her, and wheatley responds “You WHAT??!!” as well as “We’ve both said some things that you’re going to regret.”
There is something ominous about GLaDOS pulling her broken body back together. Like a powerful warrior pulling their corpse back together into a form that somewhat resembles what they once were.
I always liked to think that Cave Johnson only ever really cared about shower curtains but just couldn't stay profitable and had to begrudgingly switch over to portal technology.
Glados’ name having no official or consistent pronunciation is oddly fitting because a lot of text-to-speech are inconsistent with how they say names and words
@@nubreed13 there are shower curtains in the military in my country, but during the time those would be made it would have been a communist one, this is even better as the man could not just make shower curtains, he made weapons to weaken the military of a rival power.
leaving this here just to tell you that i was *absolutely floored* at your observation about how the GLADoS could have been made for Cave Johnson and that's why it's so corruptive, to the point of actually going "HOLY SHIT"
I've always thought GLaDOS simply stated she deleted Caroline to make more a clean break with Chell- if Chell thinks her friend Caroline is gone forever, it'll keep Chell from coming back and trying to be chummy with her. But I think a part of her really cherished the feelings she had grown to have, and didn't truly want to part from them. Hence the lie.
A difference between the old and new designs for glados I've noticed it the new design looks very "open", there are more visible servos and wires, almost as though a lot of pieces went missing. I like to think that rather than just getting a new design, they simply just couldn't find all the pieces when trying to rebuild her
That was confirmed in Portal 2, when she drops you into the incinerator to find the Dual Portal Device, she says "Be careful not to trip over any parts of me that did not get completely burnt up when you threw them down here", essentially revealing that a lot of her original body got incinerated and melted down.
I like to think that GlaDOS lets Chell go because she actually feels sympathy to her and knows that sooner or later she'll relapse to the sadistic scientist mode and might kill Chell, something she doesn't want to do, so she forces her out but snarky as always makes it look like she's still that mean robot cause she's too 'shy' to call her a friend and say that Edit: And that's why she sings in Italian, having the need to say it but without Chell understanding it
She could also be as snarky as ever to make sure that Chell actually DOES leave, instead of thinking there's still hope for her (if we're right in thinking they're family) - it may be unlikely Chell would stay, but she wants to make sure she doesn't. And to make sure that if they ever see each other again, Chell doesn't have those few seconds of thinking "Is she still nice?"
"Killing you - is hard" is not about physical murder. GLaDOS can do this at any time. It's about the emotional component. GLaDOS isn't just pushing herself to kill Chell, because of what they've been through together in that short time... and maybe because of her memory of Caroline.
JK Simmons refused point blank to record the proposed lines where Cave Johnson physically forces Caroline into downloading her brain into GLaDOS and killing her. Simmons believed that this was too much like gRape and didn't want to voice a character who would do something like that. This is why it was cut, but this was the original plan for the story in Portal 2. It's technically still canon, but never directly referenced.
I’m on Simmons’ side. How is it technically canon tho? As in it happened in a book? Or is that developer head-canon? No sarcasm, just would like to know more of the extra story and you seem to be in the know
@@zeroxssir492 It was part of the original full plot to Portal 2. It was supposed to be how GLaDOS came to be, you can hear Catherine's part of the scene in this video. Simmons flatly refused to record his part. Instead of writing a new section of story, to write around not having this happen in the story, they just never added this part. I'm not sure if they added it back in to a comic or novel, as I haven't read them all.
It also kinda doesn’t make sense: Johnson was saying that Carolyn was only to be put in the computer if he didn’t live long enough for he himself to become binary code
@@zeroxssir492 It's not completely canon, but we do know that she obviously ended up being turned into Glados, and the only comment on her disposition towards this comes from Cave Johnson saying "she won't like it". This does not canonize it, but makes the forced scenario more rational than the one where she wanted to do it.
One of my favorite parts is when the paradox fails to kill Wheatley because he's too stupid to understand it's a paradox, the walking cubes things he created all shortcircuit. They all understood and were destroyed by the paradox, and he wasn't. They couldn't do the one thing he designed them to do, but they were still smarter than him lol. I also love the robotic way GLaDOS speaks sometimes. She'll repeat words that don't really need repeating, and a human wouldn't repeat, but she does. Stuff like that. It just makes her feel a little less human. One thing I've had an interesting theory about is part of why GLaDOS likes cave so much. I don't think it's just because of Caroline and her own nature, but because they'd already started preparing Cave to be put into the hardware when he died before they could complete the process, so they finished with Caroline without emptying out the parts of cave that were there, and the two merged to create GLaDOS' overall personality.
So fun fact about the part escort submission position at 34:24 When I was a kid, I used to play portal a lot cause it was the only game I had, i'd play with cheats on spawning NPC's and killing them and putting them up against each other, it was so much fun And one day I decided "fuck it" and went to kill GLaDOS again, and I was just sitting there waiting for the ending sequence to play out What I didn't know is the game had updated by then, so when I heard the part escort submission position shit I fucking screamed and ran out of my room in panic thinking the computer was hacked
GLaDOS has a line during Portal 2 where she says the "dopamine rush" you refer to is something she got over pretty quickly and she honestly cared about the science.
Yeah i think it's more so she cares about the science as well as getting that rush, so she gets both. Whereas Wheatley couldn't care less about science so he's much more concerned about doing anything he can to get to the rush
I believe she was talking specifically about the way the rush grew gradually weaker as we watched this frustration at diminishing returns play out in Wheatley. She stated that she had learned a workaround for that by getting invested in the science, as in, she figured out a mindhack so that she could continue savoring the satisfaction at full strength. So to my recollection it wasn't that she lost and got over the rush. More like she knew Wheatley wouldn't have the intelligence to keep it going strong like she did, which would prompt him to take even more haphazard and dangerous actions to try and brute force the high. Added to the ticking timebomb element of the narrative in that section of the story.
Chell couldn't be the daughter of Cave Johnson because bring your daughter to work day happened the same day GladOS was activated, so by that time Caroline would have already been part of GladOS and Cave Johnson would be dead by this point.
I love it when games get so meta about stuff that's required for certain types of play styles. The fact that they did the 'we're going to mention you're just a player avatar and don't speak' part cracks me up endlessly 'You dangerous, Mute, Lunatic' lmao
I’d like to think that last interaction is just glados putting on an act when she realizes she’s let too much out, in that lens the whole scene become adorable to me
I could listen to someone retell the story of Portal & Portal 2 a thousand time and it’ll still incite that feeling it has for years. This video was fantastic, shortest hour and something mins i’ve had in a while
GLaDOS: This is the part where he kills us Chapter title: This is the part where he kills you. Wheatley: This is the part where I kill you. Achievement: This is that part. Best joke in Portal 2.
The portal 2 ending just gives such a sinking melancholic feeling, its supposed to be happy with all the turrets singing but man it just hurts and idk why
there's something incredibly Sad(sad is the wrong word) or eerie about those songs, like something other worldly, a Robot or Artificial Intelligence that used to be human writing a song while stuck in an abandoned lab, programmed to conduct tests forever, there's just a feeling to it that I can't articulate with words.
It's like seeing behind the curtain in a way. Off putting in a surreal way where you enjoy what your hearing but the context of everything is what brings the weird contrasting emotions.
The song PotatOS Lament captures that feeling for me, even if some of the lyrics are gibberish. The way it's performed makes me think of a death-row inmate who's singing a song of regret right before the end.
Personally I don't buy into the theory that Chell is Cave and Caroline's daughter. I did, at one point, but after thinking about it further it just feels a little unrealistic and convenient, and is a bit sub-par with the depth of storytelling Valve are known for. I think the hints towards it are intentional, but that they are also intentionally misleading. It could very well be a lore point that Chell herself was lead to believe it, hence the potential nods to it, but when analyzed further the evidence just doesn't hold up. Caroline was close to Cave, but not like that. His only love was science and experimentation, and although Caroline was undyingly loyal to him, he would just as quickly dispose of her as anyone else. His only reason for putting her in charge was probably because he saw her dedication to his cause, and wanted his research to continue after his death no matter what. The point being, I find it doubtful he ever would have gotten her pregnant. Another detail: Cave was already very dead by the time Bring your daughter to work day happened. He was an old man when he died, which means Caroline was also starting to get old. The potato battery Chell made suggests that she was a child when the event happened, and her childlike scribblings on the display itself further confirm this. Assuming Chell was around 8 years old at the time, and that this happens around the same time as Half-Life's Resonance Cascade, that would place Caroline's pregnancy to around 9 years ago, or in the early 90's. This is already after Cave's death, and 20 years after the 70's when she sounded youthful and energetic. She'd be at a bear minimum of 40 years old by then, which is definitely getting up there in age for surviving a pregnancy, let alone even having one to begin with. The entire relationship seems exceedingly unlikely, and would be very unusual given the age gap between her and Cave. We know that Chell was definitely the daughter of an Aperture employee, but we don't know who. Whoever it is, they haven't been outright revealed, which means it's probably not relevant. Chell probably isn't relevant. She is a vessel for the player to control, to insert their own immersive viewpoint onto. Chell doesn't have definitive parents, because you get to decide who they are and what they are like, and even what happened to them. Chell is a blank slate for you to write your own story and personality onto, much like Gordon Freeman before her.
I'm just gonna say that my mom was in her 40s when she had me and my sisters so I feel like that point is a little insulting. Also I could definitely see cave taking advantage of Caroline's devotion to him and using her for sex. The age difference means very little as well. Lots of older men go for young women. Just thought I'd throw that out there
@@beccarankin9353 My mother had me in her 40's as well. My point wasn't that it can't happen, my point was that it's dangerous and uncommon. My mother and I almost didn't survive it.
@@platypipope328 hes also a schizophrenic and (unfortunately) a loner, so that would also seem like a cop-out along with not making much sense, as while yes he did have schizophrenia, loosing the memory of your own daughter only to just-so-happen to find out she is the most capable person of defeating GLaDOs seems incredibly cheap, and not like valve at all
Its really funny to me that even in Aperture Science's ultimate state of Infamy, having a rouge AI gas the entire workforce to death, they're overshaddowed by an even more infamous event over at Black Mesa. Also wow, I never remembered Glados' face looking like that in Portal 1. When I think of her I think of her 2nd game appearance every single time.
Listening back on GLaDOS' dialogue at 24 after over a decade of being blind to familial abuse, I am shook to the core how many behaviors of hers reflect a narcissistic parent refusing to let you move on from the pain of trauma.
A suprisingly common pronounciatian of GLaDOS is gla doss, as in Disk Operating System or DOS. MS DOS? DOS box? Other examples like Boss or Big Hoss or what not. This is the pronounciatian I accept because of the full name of the acronym Genetic Life and Disk Operating System.
I agree that it's the correct way to pronounce it but when GlaDOS acts more human in the potato form I always mentally call her Glados. Kinda like a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde situation.
I think what Aperture should of done is to actually give her the dopamine hits for other things as well (like being good, nice, helpful) and not just for simply testing.
I always interpreted PotatOS being kinder and "mellow-er" as opposed to GlaDOS as the potato not providing enough energy for her to be evil I really like the take of Carolyn being brought forth though
That ending song in Portal 2 still makes me cry... WHY AM I CRYING!? I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE! Shows how amazing Steam was at their games, I miss them.
I was mainly left very confused but it was also pretty heartwarming but what made me feel like crying was seeing the companion cube. And no, I am definitely not attached to it all and I don't need help.
@@kevinbissingerportal was always made by valve, it was just inspired by and worked on with the original developers of some game (I forget it’s name) that I think was a school project? Either way, portal was always made by valve.
My favourite line is definetly "I've heard voices all my life, but now I hear the voice of conscious and it's terrifying because for the first time it's _my_ voice" This to me was the part where Caroline shone through most. GLaDOS here doesn't show compassion or help you in any way, but to me she does the most human thing she ever did. She felt fear. She has already been scared, I'll admit that, but this is a different situation, she wasn't in danger, for once Chell wasn't after her, but yet she was afraid anyway. To me, this is certainly the time she was most human as even after defeating Wheatley but prior to deleting Caroline, it's clear that she is already affected by the central core programming. She deletes Caroline without a thought and clearly has her whole speech planned, she's turning back into what she was and is becoming less human by the minute
As much as she plays that angle i still think she's lying about deleting her. You can clearly see Caroline shining trough in some odd ways especially when you look at her adopting the baby birds. Even if she does this under the idea of making "killer birds".
you can actually see GLadOS original 'body' on her revived form in 2. It's been shifted into a position behind her new one, almost as if to show she's 'grown' beyond that version of herself.
I heard that with the storyline about Caroline being uploaded against her will that J.K. Simmons refused to do his lines because he was uncomofrtable about it.
GLaDOS is one of, if not the, favorite villain of mine as well. I don't really have anything to add to the critical thinking crowd, or fan lore, anything like that. I just want to comment and say I appreciate the video, Portal is one of my favorite games lore wise and it has a special place in my heart. Thanks.
"How are you holding up? Because I'm a potato" is honestly an all-timer line. It's just so simple. I find GLaDOS so haunting, knowing about those unused voice recordings. They honestly make it sound a lot like a rape, which is probably part of why they didn't end up using those files.
i'm a strong believer in the "Glados and Chell's relationship is based on a toxic romantic relationship" that a few of the writers mention a couple times
I heard more that she represents like both sides of a mother, nurturing and protecting with tools and challenges, but the moment the child rebels protecting turns wicked, to the point that she could kill the child just to maintain that pure image, you can see how she tries to guilt trip and gaslight Chell in Portal 2, like an obsessive mother that cant accept that his daughter has moved on, moving on is seeing as a betrayal, But Glados gains respect and humanity at the end, in his own wicked way of saying that you re just too annoying to deal with, and at the end she sets Chell free, accepting that she cant control people, and that same margin of error is what draws her to human testing, there is simply something different with humans, in the coop plot she says that too, its a fascinating character nonetheless
One thing about her design. I think that it’s really meant to symbolise her mask coming off. In the original she had this cross shaped plastic bit covering her eye, while in the second game it’s gone, completely exposing her emotional side to the world.
GladOs is a rollercoaster and a half with her character. From villain to reluctant companion to something of an old friend who had mutual respect of their nemesis. What an absolutely amazing character and what must give portal and portal 2 life and something to focus on. Magnificent writing and I’d want to play more games in which these characters exist.
This video was very good, I learned a bunch of stuff I never knew about glados and I've watched a bunch of your videos and never commented so I thought I'd let you know you're making great stuff!
I think one of my favourite GLaDOS lines is “You know I can’t wave back, right?” A little unconventional, but I have my reasons. This is spoken during the Co-Op game, in response to Atlas and P-Boxy’s antics. I don’t know, there’s just something so profoundly tragic about how, despite all her power and seeming omnipresence, she admits to having this one weakness. Of course, most of her comments are purely comedic, but perhaps there’s a layer of irony in the fact that these two insignificant little robots can do something as simple and as *human* as waving, and well, she *can’t.* I sympathise with her a lot.
I have seen a fair few theories and ideas of Chell being the daugter of Caroline and Johnson. A lot of it circles back to that ending song, but I can't help but wonder if that isn't perhaps a way of GLaDOS hinting that she now views Chell as similar to herself, or even a successor. Think of it this way: Both have a couple of notable similarities: Determination, Cunning and Resilience. These aspects were "forged" in the first game when Chell breaks free and beats GLaDOS at her own game. Their relationship also seem to have some parallels with that of a parent and child. In the beginning GLaDOS first "nurtures" Chell by introducing her to the Test Facility and gives her a few safe tests to conduct. As testing progresses, she makes it more and more difficult, similar to how a child is given more and more difficult tasks as they grow. Eventually Chell reaches the "Teen/Rebellious" phase, seen in her escaping and attempting to kill GLaDOS. Finally the "maturity phase", this is most of the latter part of Portal 2 (PotaOS bit in general) where both Chell and GLaDOS realize the "Value" and "Flaws" in each other and develop a mutual respect for each other. The final song and release of Chell can be seen as that stage where the parrent must let go of the child and allow them to head out in the world. Now while this idea is a stretch, I do feel that it fits a bit better than the narrative of Chell being the daughter of Caroline. Now I also should state that the two don't necessarily view each other as such, but I can't help but get the sense that some sort of sub-concious process is at play. Then again I might just be mad. TLDR: GLaDOS might be viewing Chell as her "daughter" in a very demented way
The fact GLaDOS is never called by name, only as “She” or “Her” by Wheatley a few times is genuinely unnerving, like their scared to say her name in case she might be there, listening.
GladOS turning on again at the beginning of Portal 2 is one of the most terrifying and genuinely intimidating returns of a villain in gaming, imo. The way she imposes upon Chell, the music, the fear from wheatly. Very well done.
Been putting off watching this video for a while. Glados's character arc always gets me real close to crying for some reason. She's such a tragic villain to me. ;_; Amazing job dissecting her character man.
And I just realized that in the scene where you wake her up, she drops you into the incinerator hole. Tho yes, this is just to retrieve the (two portal) portal gun, but the irony of after beating her by dropping her personality core into the incinerator now she's the one dropping you into the incinerator
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how was the underground tunnels of Mars?
do a vid on Zant 🙏🏻
Any clues or hints what your next project is gonna be.
Joshua Graham please
My favourite part about Wheatley vs Glados is when she recites the paradox ‘This statement is false’ to him hoping it will overwhelm him but he is literally too stupid to understand it so it doesn’t work
"Don't think about it don't think about it don't think about it"
the funniest part is that the turret cubes were destroyed, so wheatley is even more stupid than the turret cubes
@@amasirat THAT’S RIGHT LMAO
there called franken cubes
Yet all the frankencubes burn out. They are more self aware and logical than Wheatley. (Not more intelligent in my oppinion, just more logical, since intelligence can be divided in mulitple subcategories)
"We both said alot of things that you're going to regret." is such a good line
Its such a raw line
it's such a powerful line to describe the mentality of an abusive person
Personally, I more of a “Well, how are you holding up? Because I’m a potato!” Type of guy, but I respect your opinion.
And “you are about to become the past president of the being alive club”
She says to a mute person
Personally I really like the theory that the reason why the GLaDos body corrupts both Caroline and Wheatley is because it was originally designed to hold Cave Johnson’s personality
Makes sense.
Damn
Makes sense, in the multiverse stuff they did where Cave did successfully upload himself, it took him days instead of picoseconds to decide to kill everyone.
@@werwolfnate Why'd he kill everyone?
@concept5631 boredom mostly, he blew through all human culture in a matter of seconds, and once he got tired of crossing everything over with Ghostbusters he started going a little crazy.
One of my favorite lines from Portal 2 is how GLaDOS describes Wheatley: "He's not just a regular moron. He's the product of the greatest minds of a generation working together with the express purpose of building the dumbest moron who ever lived. And you just put him in charge of the entire facility."
And we just put him in charge of the entire facility.
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@@ZebraOnYourNose Good, that's still working.
*slow clap*
I dont think they did a good job of that though
Sure he's still an idiot, but to be fair, he managed to break Chell out of the testing area, he was the one who came up with the idea of destroying the turrets and neurotoxin, and the few clever tricks he pulled, like flinging us in the opposite direction to his trap, as well as booby trapping the button
Again, he's still dumb and needed Chells help, but for being the "dumbest moron that ever lived" I've seen dumber people on Twitter.
@@DaIminico(Chell in my AU) Good, it’s a vital component
You forgot the best GLaDOS roast: “science has now validated your mothers decision to leave you on a doorstep”
How is it that GLaDOS can make such basic insults work so well with such charisma? It’s nuts!
Maybe because I love hyperboles but"he's not just any moron. He's the product of the greatest minds of a generation collaborating together for the express purpose of making the greatest moron to ever live. And you just put him in charge of the facility". Tbh valve has a lot of good insults like when spy said "that would be your mother". Then gave photographic proof of scouts mom banging the spy he was trying to hunt down
Nonono, you mean: "your birth was a mathematical failure and I'm about to correct it"
abandoned, not leave
DANG!
52:16 I'VE JUST REALIZED THAT THE MACHINE SAYS CORE CORRUPTION AT 50% INSTEAD OF 25% BECAUSE WHEATLEY IS CONSIDERED A CORRUPTED CORE
It would also make sense if space core was just... MORE corrupted than the other 2
@@Pixelusually space is my favourite color
OMG.
@@AGA-q3f "Dad! I'm in space! "I'm proud of you, son." Dad, are you space? "Yes. Now we are a family again."
Wheatley is a corrupted British wisdom core
“It is the throne that is corrupt, not the queen”. Brilliant observation and extremely well put.
The Queen was still happily shoving the homeless and the elderly through particle accelerators during her lifetime so I can only entertain the sentiment halfway. But it is indeed very well put.
I think you’re right, but for me part of the brilliance of the observation is how applicable it is to other media, or just real life. Like the Frozen Throne in Warcraft and Arthas (quite literally) or viewing the office of say the POTUS as a throne that an elected official sits on.
@@claytonramstedt3191 exactly, when W was president he committed innumerable war crimes and now he just sits at home and paints.
Kind of reminds me of The Core from amphibia, now that I think about it. The concept is there 1:1, upload the consciousness of past kings and scientists into a big ol supercomputer so they can live forever.
And the problem comes from the fact that when you’ve been separated- ELEVATED, even- from normal people and the world they live in, those people and that world lose meaning. And having CONTROL of that world amplifies the effect dramatically.
It can be argued the same is true for the ultra-wealthy and political elite.
I always loved the idea of a subtly corrupting influence rather than a total morality shift. Something that pushes you in a certain direction and doesn’t grab a hold of your mind. The One Ring that makes you want to hold onto it and tempts you with its power for example. The main system urges you to keep testing, progress must be made and being installed into an advanced computing system means influences like that work faster than how we would experience. For us the process might have been instant but for her she was probably working through everything the system was uploading into her that by the time she acted it had already messed with her head. Wheatley didn’t change personality, just attitude after all. He became more persistent, malicious, and eager to test, but he was still a goofy, talkative idiot.
“You are a horrible person. We weren’t even testing for that” is still my favorite line in both Portal games.
Imagining Glados screaming during the Wheatly switch as Caroline screaming during her "upload" is haunting imagery.
Wheatley asks if its going to hurt and GLaDOS assures him it does. She knows from experience of being uploaded to the machine.
My interpretation of Caroline's consent in the matter is that she absolutely did not. Not only because of the cut voice lines, but also because of the fact that the first action she takes after being converted is killing literally everyone who had any part in the process.
Hard agree.
No way is GLaDOS being psychotic and hate-fueled solely due to programming bugs and rushed incompetence.
Caroline went in kicking and screaming, begging and clawing for life. GLaDOS woke up as her vengeful spirit, whether she knew it or not, who made sure everyone in the facility died painfully.
Its hard to feel any sense of sympathy or pity for the Aperature Scientists who were complicit in this, among the many other terrible things they did before that.
@@concept5631 yea. I think there was also another voice file which was recorded when Caroline was put into it which was exactly what you wrote: Caroline when she went in kicking and screaming, begging and clawing for life.
Yeah, the actor playing Cave Johnson refused to record his half of the scene, because he really didn’t want to record a scene of a male boss overpowering a female employee and violating her bodily autonomy while she begged him to stop. I don’t blame him. It would not have come across well.
@@Silkenray Cave Johnson's voice actor is J.K. Simmons.
@@Silkenrayit wouldn't make sense for Cave Johnson to be there. He died before the project was complete so I assumed when Caroline was being forced to have her conscience be placed in the main computer, Johnson was already dead.
"And guess what! Ground up moon rocks are pure poison!"
That line never fails to make me laugh lol
the following "i'm deadly ill" is hilarous too
Tbh Portal 2 is one of the funniest games ever made.
@@DingusButDead 100% I loved that game haha
There’s a line she says to Chell during the final fight in the first game that… honestly? It’s chilling, knowing what we know now about her and Caroline.
“Speaking of, I bet you’re curious about what happens after you die. Well, guess what: *I know.*”
Android Hell?
I just heard that line on my last playthrough and it is absolutely horrifying when you think about it. Especially if all she remembers about being human is what it felt like to die, having her brain uploaded.
and after that she's "deletes" Caroline.
I thought she was referring to Chell killing her in the last game
@@zampoloo This is a line in the first game.
"How are you holding up?"
"Because I'm a POTATO"
Is the best line in any form of media
I really like when she said that can’t lie to Chell, because literally doesn’t have the voltage needed to lie, when is in the potato
Derpy af
Portal 2's GLaDOS re-design looks hauntingly humanoid.
She looks like she's bound and hung upside down, to me, it feels like an intentional choice, to portray Caroline's unwillingness to become this thing. restricted and imprisoned within the machine itself
Personally I never saw it until someone showed me a comparison, and now I often think about it when I see GLaDOS.
portal 1 glados looks more like shes tied up and hanging upside down, especially since she doesn't have any animations and just dangles.
YEAH. It's horrific
One little thing, valve’s job at animating the robots is incredible. There’s so much emotion with their movements.
It still weirds me out seeing Cave Johnson's picture. The guy that Cave was modeled from is the dad of one of my friends from high school. We even got to use a copy of the 1970s Cave Johnson photo for a play with my local community theater. He's a great guy and has no plans on making lemons combustible.
What was the play about?
@@qmacaulay69 I just spent longer than I really should have in order to figure this out. It was a murder mystery. Also, it was one of my high school's plays, not the local community theater (they used the same one). I worked on the crew for that show. One day, I showed up as they were building the set and I was greeted with a portrait of Cave Johnson hanging over the "fireplace". I was very confused for a few minutes until I started putting it together.
@@VerilyViscous Bro you gotta tell me the name of your high school I'm moving countries to be there
I wonder how he feels about being in a popular game and how he's been characterised like this? XD
And whether he's been seen in real life and had "MR JOHNSON?!" thrown at him not understanding the reference?
@@ArmadilloJohn The school was nothing special, it just happened to be in the region near where Valve is located.
42:22 My favorite is the one about sharks. "I was researching sharks for an upcoming test. Do you know who else murders people who are only trying to help them?
Did you guess sharks?
Because that's wrong.
The correct answer is 'Nobody.' Nobody but you is so pointlessly cruel"
the way she hangs is very reminescant of the women carved into the front of old ships, which is a really nice bit of imagery, she's steering the ship but also unwillingly strapped to it forever
This is beautiful
I think it’s technically a reference to the famous image of Venus emerging from a shell, only upside-down. I heard that from somewhere… but the female imagery is definitely there
@@ElvishShellfish There is the theory that GLaDOS' design is similar to that of a woman bound. There is a lot of haunting mannerisms about her and how Caroline became GLaDOS that suggests more than just she was forced into the program.
it's based on Aphrodite rising from the sea
There's an interesting theory about Glados... During the early part of the alien occupation of Earth in Half-Life the occupying forces went after all of the top-secret/advanced research labs in an attempt to destroy them. They succeeded in destroying all of the labs except Aperture Science. It's believed that Glados is directly responsible for the lab's protection. Kind of gives some perspective on what both Glados and Chell are truly capable of.
I thought GLaDOS sorta made an agreement with the combine so that the combine will leave her and Aperture Science alone, and the combine would get things like the High Energy Pellet and Sentry Turret tech (Maybe even the AI tech used in the Overwatch?)
@@dhl-96Aperture definitely didn’t work with the combine since there whole goal was local teleportation which Aperture obviously has, glados does protect the lab from the combine also
Is there anything sweeter than a song of genuine affection and apology from a former mortal enemy?
It’s like Kirk being served key lime pie by khan
Nothing at all
Seems like this could all be avoided if aperture didn’t have large quantities of neurotoxin hooked up to the general ventilation system
I wonder why they had it in the first place
@@notmou because that's something cave johnson would include.
@@alephorsmth9140 "The lab boys said that we couldn't afford to install a giant neurotoxin generator. Did it anyway! Compressed it down and hooked it up to the vent system. And guess what? Neurotoxin is pure poison. All my employees are dead."
well they needed it incase the mantis men or evil sentient cloud tried to take over the facility
@@Corium1 honestly this isn't a bad explanation, if one of their many dangerous creatures got released it would come in handy. Imagine if the black Mesa event had a neurotoxin vent system, sure it would kill Gordon (depending on whether or not he uses the helmet) but it would solve the immediate problem. Which is the exact kind of crazy idea that cave Johnson would implement
GLaDOS's screams of pain in the transfer always make me feel bad.
Suggests the transformation from Caroline into GLaDOS was painful aswell. Further exacerbated by how she was forced into the machine against her will.
All send an F for GLaDOS
@@thestellarvoid9529 the transfer could've been even worse than the initial transfer from Caroline to glorified gaming PC, as reliving traumatic shit like that after YEARS must be awful
Yeah, I literally got goosebumps when I heard that.
The first time and now in the video as well
@@Twiddle_things in theory she might've not remember that as she was surprised to hear Cave Johnson.
Well, she probably already remembered that on the third transfer.
44:34 - Actually, I see GLaDOS's design here as something vulnerable rather than powerful. Her silhouette reads almost like a person in a straight jacket being dangled from their ankles. And I think that's pretty fitting considering she never asked to be put into this body in the first place. It's as if she's been imprisoned, and now even her freedom to just move around as she pleases has been stripped from her.
(Also, side note, but those claw arms she used to crush Wheatley earlier would have probably come in handy here to stop the core transfer lol.)
The early concept art looks exactly like that. Caroline's mind is part of glados but also is trapped there just like you are trapped in the aperture lab
btw the core transer reasonable could have a thing where outside robotic interference is disabled
I've seen that fanart many moons ago, which caused quite an uproar. Then Valve stepped in saying that her design was based off of Aphrodite rising from the sea.
@@DjurrenArt which fanart?
@@arty217 A woman tied in a straightjacket with a blindfold and gag hanging down from her ankles :)
It's really interesting to me how Wheatley's entire villain arc plays like an abusive relationship. He goes from kind and dolting, to initially questioning Chell's loyalty to him. When the euphoria of the tests begin to die down, he berates her and her performance in a way a dissatisfied partner would, begging her to "come back" when she metaphorically and literally leaves him.
I love the quote GLaDOS recites at the end of Portal 2: "You know, being Caroline has taught me a valuable lesson; where Caroline lives in my brain! ..Goodbye, Caroline." In the final moment, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't; she does this throughout the game. When you think she changed, nope. Her personality flips on a dime.
Except not...fully. Though she may have deleted Caroline, she still got the development she went through. And knowing how file deletion works in computers, bits and pieces of Caroline still persists within GLaDOS, being small but still significant traits that are part of her overall personality
29:45
I think because GLaDOS has been doing these experiments with test subject for so long she was essentially on "Auto Pilot" the entire time up until that point. Her stumbling and glitching at your escape was a result of something her AI hadn't anticipated. The uncertain way she begins "We are please you made it through this final challenge" sounds like an entirely new script she had just written for this completely new scenario. That's when the true GLaDOS goes online.
but that is against the point that she was first on the list
@@schwingedeshaehers she wasnt first. There were countless other subjects before she got manually set to the first index of the list by the mad scientist.
@@d3v-x64 fun fact: the subjects before chell were survivors of GLaDOS having a heated gamer moment on BYDTWD and BYCTWD
"Say hi, Caroline"
"Hi Caroline!"
"She is a gem."
I’ve always enjoyed that, somewhat ironically, one of the first jokes about Cave’s willing negligence and malpractice, is almost exactly what does him in in the end; because moon dust is dangerous for a lot of the same reasons as Asbestos, which he’s all too happy to build entire testing tracks with, despite knowing it’s health hazards, just to keep the rats out.
"Let us know if you feel a shortness of breath, a persistant dry cough or your heart stopping. Because that's not part of the test. That's asbestos."
Love that line.
I also love how sincere he is when he tries to blow you up with the stalemate button idk why i always laugh so hard when he goes “ARE YOU STILL ALIVE?!?! YOU ARE JOKING YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME?!?!!!”
I think he played enough call of duty
I swear I remember Cave Johnson audio where originally they were trying to make artificial instant pudding mix from moon rocks when they discovered it was a good portal surface, it was strongly implied Cave had been eating ground up moon rocks which lead to his poisoning.
i know the bouncy and speedy gels were originally diet pudding, and then they got recalled cause they did terrible things to you. not sure if they also had moon rocks in them or not but yeah i'd bet he made some poor dietary choices lol
ONE HOUR AND 10 MINUTES!?!? You spoil us.
send help
@@Ghostcharm No 😎
actually its one hour eleven minutes forty one seconds 🤓
My exact reaction
Settle down, his last real upload was a month ago. We deserve this
There is a really horrifying line in Portal were Glados tells Chell that despite what she might think of Aperature the Surface is much worse. Which even she, Glados, has no idea what's truly going on out there.
It's such a terrifying line about the Half Life Combine, that even a world class AI has no idea what going on beyond her walls
"All I know is I'm the only thing standing between us, and *them* "
@@b.c.s.o4169 that line honestly gives me chills
@@b.c.s.o4169 "Well, was. Unless you have a plan to build some supercomputer parts in a big hurry it's about to get a lot less safe down here."
@@b.c.s.o4169 I feel like it’s important to note that in the Co op version GlaDOS is working on a project to create some actual firepower. It ends with her caring for baby birds, wanting to test them and turn them into trained killers for her. Imagine if in the future the defunct Aperture Labs releases a Bird Army, aided by the labs extensive work on short distance teleportation, turrets, autonomous drones with Portal Guns and revitalizing the Genetic Engineering projects the Lab abandoned to create her Bird Army and deal with the problem.
the timeline would honestly add up more to it being the portal storms that preceded the combine, meaning that it's not even the combine, the combine is somehow much worse.
Ok, I LOVE GladOS’s revival. It’s so cinematic, and Wheatley panicking is hilarious. My favorite parts have to be when glados says you murdered her, and wheatley responds “You WHAT??!!” as well as “We’ve both said some things that you’re going to regret.”
There is something ominous about GLaDOS pulling her broken body back together. Like a powerful warrior pulling their corpse back together into a form that somewhat resembles what they once were.
More like "I said alot of things and YOU are going to pay for them" because chell doesn't speak
“Nobody tried to murder me, or put me in a potato.” Always makes me laugh. EXCELLENT VIDEO!
"Poe-Ta-Toe" 🤣
I always liked to think that Cave Johnson only ever really cared about shower curtains but just couldn't stay profitable and had to begrudgingly switch over to portal technology.
Glados’ name having no official or consistent pronunciation is oddly fitting because a lot of text-to-speech are inconsistent with how they say names and words
It does actually, from the final hours of portal 2
"GLAD-ohss". There ya go. Long O.
I was in the Army from 1996 to 2004 and never saw a single shower curtain.
That's how I knew Portal was a work of fiction.
Or the military noticed how the aperture shower curtains gave everyone tumors and got rid of them.
@@nubreed13 there are shower curtains in the military in my country, but during the time those would be made it would have been a communist one, this is even better as the man could not just make shower curtains, he made weapons to weaken the military of a rival power.
The only proof.
Thanks man, I was questioning if portal was real.
This is possibly my favorite joke of the series and Ive never seen anyone mention it before.
leaving this here just to tell you that i was *absolutely floored* at your observation about how the GLADoS could have been made for Cave Johnson and that's why it's so corruptive, to the point of actually going "HOLY SHIT"
Broke my brain with the sound logic of it.
Should play the newest valve game for the steam deck, it will reveal more about aperture
I've always thought GLaDOS simply stated she deleted Caroline to make more a clean break with Chell- if Chell thinks her friend Caroline is gone forever, it'll keep Chell from coming back and trying to be chummy with her. But I think a part of her really cherished the feelings she had grown to have, and didn't truly want to part from them. Hence the lie.
That is actually a very Good theory. I'm gonna see this as cannon now
A difference between the old and new designs for glados I've noticed it the new design looks very "open", there are more visible servos and wires, almost as though a lot of pieces went missing. I like to think that rather than just getting a new design, they simply just couldn't find all the pieces when trying to rebuild her
That was confirmed in Portal 2, when she drops you into the incinerator to find the Dual Portal Device, she says "Be careful not to trip over any parts of me that did not get completely burnt up when you threw them down here", essentially revealing that a lot of her original body got incinerated and melted down.
I like to think that GlaDOS lets Chell go because she actually feels sympathy to her and knows that sooner or later she'll relapse to the sadistic scientist mode and might kill Chell, something she doesn't want to do, so she forces her out but snarky as always makes it look like she's still that mean robot cause she's too 'shy' to call her a friend and say that
Edit: And that's why she sings in Italian, having the need to say it but without Chell understanding it
If you love something, let it go...
@@zoelio999 ... before it kills you. Unless its Science.
She could also be as snarky as ever to make sure that Chell actually DOES leave, instead of thinking there's still hope for her (if we're right in thinking they're family) - it may be unlikely Chell would stay, but she wants to make sure she doesn't. And to make sure that if they ever see each other again, Chell doesn't have those few seconds of thinking "Is she still nice?"
oh god this theory is gonna make me tear up lmao
"Killing you - is hard" is not about physical murder. GLaDOS can do this at any time. It's about the emotional component. GLaDOS isn't just pushing herself to kill Chell, because of what they've been through together in that short time... and maybe because of her memory of Caroline.
JK Simmons refused point blank to record the proposed lines where Cave Johnson physically forces Caroline into downloading her brain into GLaDOS and killing her. Simmons believed that this was too much like gRape and didn't want to voice a character who would do something like that. This is why it was cut, but this was the original plan for the story in Portal 2. It's technically still canon, but never directly referenced.
I’m on Simmons’ side. How is it technically canon tho? As in it happened in a book? Or is that developer head-canon?
No sarcasm, just would like to know more of the extra story and you seem to be in the know
@@zeroxssir492 It was part of the original full plot to Portal 2. It was supposed to be how GLaDOS came to be, you can hear Catherine's part of the scene in this video. Simmons flatly refused to record his part. Instead of writing a new section of story, to write around not having this happen in the story, they just never added this part. I'm not sure if they added it back in to a comic or novel, as I haven't read them all.
It also kinda doesn’t make sense: Johnson was saying that Carolyn was only to be put in the computer if he didn’t live long enough for he himself to become binary code
@@zeroxssir492 It's not completely canon, but we do know that she obviously ended up being turned into Glados, and the only comment on her disposition towards this comes from Cave Johnson saying "she won't like it". This does not canonize it, but makes the forced scenario more rational than the one where she wanted to do it.
What is gRape?
We do at least know Chell's dad worked at Aperature, seeing as she lists "special ingredient from Dad's work" on the board for her potato
I always loved how angry Cave gets about dying.
"How dare life give me lemons"!
Its an amazing but of humour to me.
One of my favorite parts is when the paradox fails to kill Wheatley because he's too stupid to understand it's a paradox, the walking cubes things he created all shortcircuit. They all understood and were destroyed by the paradox, and he wasn't. They couldn't do the one thing he designed them to do, but they were still smarter than him lol.
I also love the robotic way GLaDOS speaks sometimes. She'll repeat words that don't really need repeating, and a human wouldn't repeat, but she does. Stuff like that. It just makes her feel a little less human.
One thing I've had an interesting theory about is part of why GLaDOS likes cave so much. I don't think it's just because of Caroline and her own nature, but because they'd already started preparing Cave to be put into the hardware when he died before they could complete the process, so they finished with Caroline without emptying out the parts of cave that were there, and the two merged to create GLaDOS' overall personality.
Well after all as Glados told us, it took some of the brightest minds to make an idiot that stupid.
So fun fact about the part escort submission position at 34:24
When I was a kid, I used to play portal a lot cause it was the only game I had, i'd play with cheats on spawning NPC's and killing them and putting them up against each other, it was so much fun
And one day I decided "fuck it" and went to kill GLaDOS again, and I was just sitting there waiting for the ending sequence to play out
What I didn't know is the game had updated by then, so when I heard the part escort submission position shit I fucking screamed and ran out of my room in panic thinking the computer was hacked
I rate this post: Grammar/ 10
In all seriousness though, that ending bit made me laugh.
GLaDOS has a line during Portal 2 where she says the "dopamine rush" you refer to is something she got over pretty quickly and she honestly cared about the science.
Yeah i think it's more so she cares about the science as well as getting that rush, so she gets both. Whereas Wheatley couldn't care less about science so he's much more concerned about doing anything he can to get to the rush
I believe she was talking specifically about the way the rush grew gradually weaker as we watched this frustration at diminishing returns play out in Wheatley. She stated that she had learned a workaround for that by getting invested in the science, as in, she figured out a mindhack so that she could continue savoring the satisfaction at full strength.
So to my recollection it wasn't that she lost and got over the rush. More like she knew Wheatley wouldn't have the intelligence to keep it going strong like she did, which would prompt him to take even more haphazard and dangerous actions to try and brute force the high. Added to the ticking timebomb element of the narrative in that section of the story.
,,Wheatley: This is the part where I kill you!
Subtitles: *The part where he kills you*"
Is my favorite part of the game
Trophy unlock, "the part where he kills you"
@@The100thonly name of the song: "the part where he kills you"
Glados: this is the part where he kills us!
It’s also the part where he kills you
The funniest thing is how he doesn't actually kill you there
Chell couldn't be the daughter of Cave Johnson because bring your daughter to work day happened the same day GladOS was activated, so by that time Caroline would have already been part of GladOS and Cave Johnson would be dead by this point.
@zahclutchin yeah but you can’t take your daughter to work on take your daughter to work day if you are either dead or in a massive computer
What if Glados wasn't lying that Chel was adopted?
@@kellis6645 What if Chell was a child of Cave Johnson, but was then put into adoption of a another family that works in the Aperture?
@@anrandomthing7110 exactly
What about Chells mother?
I love it when games get so meta about stuff that's required for certain types of play styles. The fact that they did the 'we're going to mention you're just a player avatar and don't speak' part cracks me up endlessly
'You dangerous, Mute, Lunatic' lmao
I’d like to think that last interaction is just glados putting on an act when she realizes she’s let too much out, in that lens the whole scene become adorable to me
I dont think she would kill 100,000 people later on if she didnt delete caroline
"More toxic than my ex-girlfriend." Sounds like a hint at the next villainpedia
Catherine?
@@E.Frey2002 no his real life ex girlfriend
@@E.Frey2002 actually that’s a good idea. The game is desperate for attention
@@videogamee6037 so Jessica?
@Keali'i Cooper Then your name must be pronounced t-e-s-t
I could listen to someone retell the story of Portal & Portal 2 a thousand time and it’ll still incite that feeling it has for years. This video was fantastic, shortest hour and something mins i’ve had in a while
GLaDOS: This is the part where he kills us
Chapter title: This is the part where he kills you.
Wheatley: This is the part where I kill you.
Achievement: This is that part.
Best joke in Portal 2.
The portal 2 ending just gives such a sinking melancholic feeling, its supposed to be happy with all the turrets singing but man it just hurts and idk why
My favorite GLaDOS quote is - "This time he's bound to count to three"
You know that song too?
Bruh
...censor it! Newell is watching... never know what unspeakable acts he'll commit if he sees us saying the forsaken number...
1, 2... And 4.
@@_-Lx-_ Now get ready for half life.......Alyx.
I like how she just admits defeat at the end of Portal 2
i used to want u dead but now i only want u gone 🤗
GLaDos really deserved the hour you granted her, well done once again Ghost, another fantastic video!
49:35 I love how GLaDOS is just agreeing with a dead person about lemons.
I appreciate the concise but totally correct explanation of shroedingers cat. So many people get it wrong...
there's something incredibly Sad(sad is the wrong word) or eerie about those songs, like something other worldly, a Robot or Artificial Intelligence that used to be human writing a song while stuck in an abandoned lab, programmed to conduct tests forever, there's just a feeling to it that I can't articulate with words.
It's like seeing behind the curtain in a way. Off putting in a surreal way where you enjoy what your hearing but the context of everything is what brings the weird contrasting emotions.
Melancholic?
Unnerving?
@@hagonistheman7880 dude it's 2022, get better material
The song PotatOS Lament captures that feeling for me, even if some of the lyrics are gibberish. The way it's performed makes me think of a death-row inmate who's singing a song of regret right before the end.
Personally I don't buy into the theory that Chell is Cave and Caroline's daughter. I did, at one point, but after thinking about it further it just feels a little unrealistic and convenient, and is a bit sub-par with the depth of storytelling Valve are known for. I think the hints towards it are intentional, but that they are also intentionally misleading. It could very well be a lore point that Chell herself was lead to believe it, hence the potential nods to it, but when analyzed further the evidence just doesn't hold up. Caroline was close to Cave, but not like that. His only love was science and experimentation, and although Caroline was undyingly loyal to him, he would just as quickly dispose of her as anyone else. His only reason for putting her in charge was probably because he saw her dedication to his cause, and wanted his research to continue after his death no matter what. The point being, I find it doubtful he ever would have gotten her pregnant.
Another detail: Cave was already very dead by the time Bring your daughter to work day happened. He was an old man when he died, which means Caroline was also starting to get old. The potato battery Chell made suggests that she was a child when the event happened, and her childlike scribblings on the display itself further confirm this. Assuming Chell was around 8 years old at the time, and that this happens around the same time as Half-Life's Resonance Cascade, that would place Caroline's pregnancy to around 9 years ago, or in the early 90's. This is already after Cave's death, and 20 years after the 70's when she sounded youthful and energetic. She'd be at a bear minimum of 40 years old by then, which is definitely getting up there in age for surviving a pregnancy, let alone even having one to begin with. The entire relationship seems exceedingly unlikely, and would be very unusual given the age gap between her and Cave.
We know that Chell was definitely the daughter of an Aperture employee, but we don't know who. Whoever it is, they haven't been outright revealed, which means it's probably not relevant. Chell probably isn't relevant. She is a vessel for the player to control, to insert their own immersive viewpoint onto. Chell doesn't have definitive parents, because you get to decide who they are and what they are like, and even what happened to them. Chell is a blank slate for you to write your own story and personality onto, much like Gordon Freeman before her.
I'm just gonna say that my mom was in her 40s when she had me and my sisters so I feel like that point is a little insulting. Also I could definitely see cave taking advantage of Caroline's devotion to him and using her for sex. The age difference means very little as well. Lots of older men go for young women. Just thought I'd throw that out there
@@beccarankin9353 My mother had me in her 40's as well. My point wasn't that it can't happen, my point was that it's dangerous and uncommon. My mother and I almost didn't survive it.
if chell is the daughter of anyone named in portal i would find it much more interesting if rattmann was her father instead of cave
While I'm talking about Doug rattmann he's the gigachad of portal
@@platypipope328 hes also a schizophrenic and (unfortunately) a loner, so that would also seem like a cop-out along with not making much sense, as while yes he did have schizophrenia, loosing the memory of your own daughter only to just-so-happen to find out she is the most capable person of defeating GLaDOs seems incredibly cheap, and not like valve at all
Its really funny to me that even in Aperture Science's ultimate state of Infamy, having a rouge AI gas the entire workforce to death, they're overshaddowed by an even more infamous event over at Black Mesa.
Also wow, I never remembered Glados' face looking like that in Portal 1. When I think of her I think of her 2nd game appearance every single time.
Aperture and Black Mesa sure did destroy themselves in spectacular ways.
Well, I do think her 2 appearance is more iconic.
@@TrinityCore60 It is
Caroline's cut lines are consistent with what Cave said about her, so I'm inclined to agree that she was unwilling to be uploaded into an AI.
Though I don't think the scene played out the exact same, since Cave obviously would not have been present. Caroline was the _backup_ plan, afterall.
Listening back on GLaDOS' dialogue at 24 after over a decade of being blind to familial abuse, I am shook to the core how many behaviors of hers reflect a narcissistic parent refusing to let you move on from the pain of trauma.
Sorry you had to go through that.
Hope you are doing better now.
To this day, the scene in Portal 2 where you inadvertently turn GLaDOS back on gives me the juiciest goosepimples
A suprisingly common pronounciatian of GLaDOS is gla doss, as in Disk Operating System or DOS. MS DOS? DOS box? Other examples like Boss or Big Hoss or what not. This is the pronounciatian I accept because of the full name of the acronym
Genetic
Life
and
Disk
Operating
System.
I always say it like Doss! Specifically because of MS DOS yeah XD
I agree that it's the correct way to pronounce it but when GlaDOS acts more human in the potato form I always mentally call her Glados. Kinda like a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde situation.
Im polish and I just always read it more like Ghla-Doss.
I think what Aperture should of done is to actually give her the dopamine hits for other things as well (like being good, nice, helpful) and not just for simply testing.
I have a feeling that if the test subject was allergic to chocolate, there would actually be a cake, and she would trick them into eating it.
I always interpreted PotatOS being kinder and "mellow-er" as opposed to GlaDOS as the potato not providing enough energy for her to be evil
I really like the take of Carolyn being brought forth though
When you called GLaDOS a "glorified gaming PC," I bursted into laughter.
me gathering my buddies to play Animal Crossing on GLaDOS
Favorite line of the century.
Not enough rbg
I genuinely call my rig GLaDOS now
That ending song in Portal 2 still makes me cry...
WHY AM I CRYING!? I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE!
Shows how amazing Steam was at their games, I miss them.
I was mainly left very confused but it was also pretty heartwarming but what made me feel like crying was seeing the companion cube. And no, I am definitely not attached to it all and I don't need help.
Who is Steam? Do you mean Valve? If so what do you mean miss? They're still around and still making new and amazing games
Also portal wasn't originally made by Valve, they were purchased
@@kevinbissingerportal was always made by valve, it was just inspired by and worked on with the original developers of some game (I forget it’s name) that I think was a school project? Either way, portal was always made by valve.
My favourite line is definetly
"I've heard voices all my life, but now I hear the voice of conscious and it's terrifying because for the first time it's _my_ voice"
This to me was the part where Caroline shone through most. GLaDOS here doesn't show compassion or help you in any way, but to me she does the most human thing she ever did. She felt fear. She has already been scared, I'll admit that, but this is a different situation, she wasn't in danger, for once Chell wasn't after her, but yet she was afraid anyway. To me, this is certainly the time she was most human as even after defeating Wheatley but prior to deleting Caroline, it's clear that she is already affected by the central core programming. She deletes Caroline without a thought and clearly has her whole speech planned, she's turning back into what she was and is becoming less human by the minute
As much as she plays that angle i still think she's lying about deleting her.
You can clearly see Caroline shining trough in some odd ways especially when you look at her adopting the baby birds.
Even if she does this under the idea of making "killer birds".
you can actually see GLadOS original 'body' on her revived form in 2. It's been shifted into a position behind her new one, almost as if to show she's 'grown' beyond that version of herself.
I heard that with the storyline about Caroline being uploaded against her will that J.K. Simmons refused to do his lines because he was uncomofrtable about it.
GLaDOS is one of, if not the, favorite villain of mine as well. I don't really have anything to add to the critical thinking crowd, or fan lore, anything like that. I just want to comment and say I appreciate the video, Portal is one of my favorite games lore wise and it has a special place in my heart. Thanks.
4:16 - "Now bear with me here. It sounds crazy; it's all gonna make a lot more sense soon."
Lowkey the funniest joke in the entire video.
I love how the original fight is a reference to 2001: A Space Odyssey. Slowly shutting the AI down until it's factory reset and harmless
"How are you holding up? Because I'm a potato" is honestly an all-timer line. It's just so simple.
I find GLaDOS so haunting, knowing about those unused voice recordings. They honestly make it sound a lot like a rape, which is probably part of why they didn't end up using those files.
I always loved the line "I hope you brought something stronger than a portal gun this time", it just gives me creepy serotonin
i'm a strong believer in the "Glados and Chell's relationship is based on a toxic romantic relationship" that a few of the writers mention a couple times
same!!
I'm in love with that concept thank you for commenting this so I hyperfixate more
My favorite concept ever
Where is the romance in their relationship? Lol
I heard more that she represents like both sides of a mother, nurturing and protecting with tools and challenges, but the moment the child rebels protecting turns wicked, to the point that she could kill the child just to maintain that pure image, you can see how she tries to guilt trip and gaslight Chell in Portal 2, like an obsessive mother that cant accept that his daughter has moved on, moving on is seeing as a betrayal, But Glados gains respect and humanity at the end, in his own wicked way of saying that you re just too annoying to deal with, and at the end she sets Chell free, accepting that she cant control people, and that same margin of error is what draws her to human testing, there is simply something different with humans, in the coop plot she says that too, its a fascinating character nonetheless
This video was a triumph! I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS.
45:40 is literally the single most terrifying sound i've heard in any game ever
The expanded lore in Aperture Desk Job gives a clearer picture of what Cave Johnson really wanted to achieve.
and that was....?
One thing about her design.
I think that it’s really meant to symbolise her mask coming off. In the original she had this cross shaped plastic bit covering her eye, while in the second game it’s gone, completely exposing her emotional side to the world.
GladOs is a rollercoaster and a half with her character. From villain to reluctant companion to something of an old friend who had mutual respect of their nemesis. What an absolutely amazing character and what must give portal and portal 2 life and something to focus on. Magnificent writing and I’d want to play more games in which these characters exist.
I use the Glad0s voice pack in Dota 2 and I wouldnt have it any other way. This is one of the most profound characters in all of gaming.
I think an NPCpedia entry for Wheatley from Portal would be awesome since you did GLaDOS.
Oh god, I had forgotten how much this game shaped me growing up. I'm literally crying :')
This video was very good, I learned a bunch of stuff I never knew about glados and I've watched a bunch of your videos and never commented so I thought I'd let you know you're making great stuff!
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@@denis2381 what😭
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I think one of my favourite GLaDOS lines is “You know I can’t wave back, right?”
A little unconventional, but I have my reasons. This is spoken during the Co-Op game, in response to Atlas and P-Boxy’s antics. I don’t know, there’s just something so profoundly tragic about how, despite all her power and seeming omnipresence, she admits to having this one weakness. Of course, most of her comments are purely comedic, but perhaps there’s a layer of irony in the fact that these two insignificant little robots can do something as simple and as *human* as waving, and well, she *can’t.* I sympathise with her a lot.
I have seen a fair few theories and ideas of Chell being the daugter of Caroline and Johnson. A lot of it circles back to that ending song, but I can't help but wonder if that isn't perhaps a way of GLaDOS hinting that she now views Chell as similar to herself, or even a successor.
Think of it this way: Both have a couple of notable similarities: Determination, Cunning and Resilience. These aspects were "forged" in the first game when Chell breaks free and beats GLaDOS at her own game. Their relationship also seem to have some parallels with that of a parent and child. In the beginning GLaDOS first "nurtures" Chell by introducing her to the Test Facility and gives her a few safe tests to conduct. As testing progresses, she makes it more and more difficult, similar to how a child is given more and more difficult tasks as they grow. Eventually Chell reaches the "Teen/Rebellious" phase, seen in her escaping and attempting to kill GLaDOS. Finally the "maturity phase", this is most of the latter part of Portal 2 (PotaOS bit in general) where both Chell and GLaDOS realize the "Value" and "Flaws" in each other and develop a mutual respect for each other. The final song and release of Chell can be seen as that stage where the parrent must let go of the child and allow them to head out in the world.
Now while this idea is a stretch, I do feel that it fits a bit better than the narrative of Chell being the daughter of Caroline. Now I also should state that the two don't necessarily view each other as such, but I can't help but get the sense that some sort of sub-concious process is at play. Then again I might just be mad.
TLDR: GLaDOS might be viewing Chell as her "daughter" in a very demented way
The fact GLaDOS is never called by name, only as “She” or “Her” by Wheatley a few times is genuinely unnerving, like their scared to say her name in case she might be there, listening.
Sci-Fi Voldemort
GladOS turning on again at the beginning of Portal 2 is one of the most terrifying and genuinely intimidating returns of a villain in gaming, imo. The way she imposes upon Chell, the music, the fear from wheatly. Very well done.
Man did anyone else get a rush of emotions hearing the ending song of portal 1 and 2 especially 2. God they don't make em like they used to.
HOLY SHIT!!! Another ghost video to watch several times over the next, several days. And portal no less, g you are striking out every time.
The parents bit was so freaking cruel and hilarious.
Been putting off watching this video for a while. Glados's character arc always gets me real close to crying for some reason. She's such a tragic villain to me. ;_; Amazing job dissecting her character man.
And I just realized that in the scene where you wake her up, she drops you into the incinerator hole.
Tho yes, this is just to retrieve the (two portal) portal gun, but the irony of after beating her by dropping her personality core into the incinerator now she's the one dropping you into the incinerator