It never fails to amuse me that fans forget about what Rhysand did in Book 1. All that creepy assault is pushed to the side and he becomes a feminist love interest all of a sudden. The romanticization of abusive relationships made me dnf this series.
I hated what Sarah did to Tamlin. People paint him as someone who coward away from Amarantha to save himself, but he'd lost most of his powers and lived with a heart of stone for 50 years, lived with his face masked at all hours of the day for 50 years- talk about dehumanizing. He lost his friends over the wall for 50 years, and tamlin is the one who killed Amarantha! Not Rhysand-even though he claimed he knew he loved Feyre in the moment she tossed that bone at Amarantha's feet. Feyre didn't kill Amarantha, Rhysand didn't. Tamlin killed that ugly bitch. I won't justify his actions of locking Feyre up- that was wrong. But if we dialed back the scope and saw it all from his pov- the level of his depression and PTSD. Rhysand puts on an ugly evil mask and behaves so devilishly before everyone!!!!!! Not knowing Rhysand beyond the ugliness he shows the world, why wouldn't Tamlin be overly protective over a woman he loved so much, who he believed loved him, and was manipulated to go to his worst enemies home for 2 weeks out of every month, not knowing what he makes her do for him! Rhysand drugged Feyre and made her dance publically for him and the crowd. And really for NO GOOD REASON. Forcing his tongue down her throat wasn't a grand idea either. There were other ways of directing Tamlin's anger toward Amarantha- taking Feyre was it!!!! Also he sought out Feyre. Went looking for her, and Feyre asked Lucien "why didn't he come for me?" Maybe for the same reason Mor took you from the house and Rhys didn't. Rhys sand it would have broken law if he took her. I'm guessing Tamlin knew the law as well. Also, Rhys said he's tear the world apart looking for her..... Tamlin went looking for her and didn't tear the world apart. He let her go though it broke him. I'm sorry, but I would have loved it had Tamlin andf Feyre learned to love each other and grow and conquer their fears and The old vile inside battle between the Spring Court and Night Court could come together and fight Hybern together. Rhys could see his own power being used against him during meetings- Feyre could have been built up to be so much stronger than she was shown in the actual book. Gyrating as the High Lords play thing in front of a congregation was absolutely disgusting and sexualzing and demoralizing. Sometimes I think about all the destruction Tamlin has gone through, and what Feyre has put him through, and Rhys rubbing Tamlins self-acknowledged mistakes in his face is disturbing and childish. Tamlin locked Feyre in a cage, and had her sisters turned to Fae. Rhys TWISTED Feyre's broken bone and had Clare Baker killed. Feyre has her sisters. Clares parents don't have their daughter!!!!!!
YES TO THIS. Everyone seems to forget that Tamlin (and Lucien) only knew Rhys as being wicked--because that's the mask Rhys wore for hundreds of years. Then being Amarantha's whre, no high fae liked or trusted Rhys! Obviously Tamlin is going to freak out that Feyre is taken by Rhys--ESPECIALLY because Feyre has all the High Lord's powers and Tamlin knows this and is trying to keep it secret from the other High Lords to protect Feyre. Now THE most powerful High Lord has her, to do who knows what with that power. And that note from Feyre sent saying something like, "leave me be this is my choice" sounds like any abducted persons note. We need a Tamlin's POV from Under the Mountain, and what was happening to him that he couldn't help Feyre. I think Maas assassinated Tamlin's character, made him turn a 180 from the first book, and decided she liked the dark prince love interest more than Tamlin. I'd rather see Lucien and Tamlin friends again and Tamlin rebuilding his court.
Tamlin also tried to help one of Feyre's sisters when they were thrown in Cauldron - because he never intended to hurt them, he just wanted Feyre back.
@@morganfemale9478 you stupid asf dawg. All this fanart and u can't comprehend that people can visualize characters based on their description? Dumb asf Rhysand fans per usual
i couldn’t make it past the second book in ToG but enjoyed most of the ACOTAR series lmao but when you said ACOMAF undoes everything in the first book... u didn’t lie lol it still makes me mad that SJM ruined everything decent about Tamlin to uplift her woke disney princess King Rhysand. it would’ve been better had they both been dark morally grey characters... they’re literally Fae. what’s not clicking
i think it ultimately boiled down to this series, or this arc of the series, being told strictly from feyre's perspective. it's such and odd way to choose to tell this story and believing that feyre see's rhys' actions as good when they are comparable is so weird to me. it might be a byproduct of this originally being an adult novel marketed to a younger demographic, but i do think there's a lot to unpack with a court of mist and fury that doesn't bc so much of the book is feyre wanting to rub rhys' wings and so that becomes the discussion. or the discussion becomes framed around the idea of the reader just accepting rhy's explanation of events, even when they don't line up with what we've read or they only exist to forward this narrative of him being the good prong of the love triangle.
She FOR SURE, got dumped soooo bad by some hot guy named Tamlin. 😂 I could literally "touch" her projected insecurity all over the place with that, "pick me, pick me ( in this case, pick the character of MY preference bc I said so ) vibe which is just pukish.
Headcannon Rhys manipulated Feyre's mind - he's the one who teaches her all these demati or whatever the fuck things - especially since she literally constantly directly compares him and Tamlin but goes beyond and above to explain why he's different and what he does is OK. That's why she's experiencing earthquake orgasms and shit😭😂 That's also why Nesta doesn't fuck with him, she's immune to all that glamour shit, anyways Nesta best character
i definitely agree with nesta being the best character. she's a true icon and we have to stan. as for rhys manipulating feyre's mind, he does talk about how he reached into her mind and broke it right before she left tamlin's castle the first time i believe. it was part of the presex chapter, so like, it's all blury to me. i don't think that he manipulated her in the long run though, but i do think that him continuously putting her in situations that he benefited from without the full context and acting as though they were for her benefit was a form of manipulation that didn't really require him to reach into feyre's mind
@@itsmonteprice yea, I don't actually think he did mind control her, I just headcannon it that way. Same way I headcannon that the night court genocided the "dusk" court {it bothers me so much that there's a dawn court but no dusk court} and that's why the night court is not only the biggest and Rhys the most "powerful"🙄 but it has 2 divided peoples and cultures. Like the most powerful high lord but his whole second court don't fuck with him. Sounds like a colonizer
@@ae_neo34 it's the way the court of nightmares is supposed to be just full of evil people that no one fucks with and yet he doesn't seem to do anything about it bc tradition for me
@@BN-hp8um period. And I won't even entertain sjm’s new Nesta book. Like Nesta losing her power and being fully gaslit into conforming to the circle jerk? No.
hated rhysand since the first book. tamlin however… yes it’s true i love that problematic man with my whole chest. i’m outside the spring court screaming “i can change him” skskksks 😭😂
Unlike Rhysand, you probably could change Tamlin. Just get him some bloody therapy and you've done most of the work, because most of the worst parts of Tamlin's actions are just straight up trauma responses.
Here's a theory/head cannon that could've made the whole plot bearable: Make Feyra an unreliable narrator. Rhysand mind-controlled her down under the mountain (remember the whole naked dancing/groping scene?) and had been using her as his eyes and wars to spy on Tamlin. Tam can still be controlling but now we question how much is real and how much was Rhysand assuming control.
I feel so relieved someone else feels the same way about the book as I did. I didn't like how Rhysand treated Feyre in ACOTAR so if was hard for me to like him in ACOMAF.
yeah, a lot of how he was presented in ACOTAR did not sit well with me and try as maas did she could not undo what she had done in a way that worked for me. i'll just rock on team feyre should be single i guess.
I loathed Rhysand from the start. The things he does in ACOTAR are alone worthy of being put down like a dog, I never even bothered with the rest of the series. I feel like the author had shown her true colors
i can't say that you missed out on too much by not continuing with the series. especially if you loathed rhysand, no need to suffer his presence the way i did.
the amount of times rhysand told feyre "it's your choice" was just annoying. like we get it ur better than tamlin 😒. overall i gave the book 3/5 bc it was more interesting than acotar but i didn't care about the characters. ⚔️
@@mm5xo He doesn't give her all of the information to make an informed choice though - he lies and manipulates her all the time. So is that really a choice?
Thank you 💯I read this series back when it first released and was stunned and later disappointed with how ACOMAF turned out. Rhysand should have stayed a morally ambiguous/antagonistic character, imo. The retconning SJM does to Tamlin's character and the content in general is frustrating. I've been seeing this series pop up lately and so decided to look into it again. Thank you for making this video!
yeah... rhysand was always a questionable figure and seeing people thirsting over him after reading this had me feeling like i was was living in the upside down.
Hulu is making a tv series on it…… I’m currently trying to write my own book series, and seeing books like these get published with a huge fandom is discouraging
why? it should be encouraging! look at how many badly written and poor plots are being published! if you recognise that then your book will probably be better
part of me wants to get it, because ya shouldn't really be known for the steam factor and this was one of the newer titles to bring that back, but like... even then it's not worth all the discussion that pitiful chapter gets.
@@Mookneepie I've said on other platforms that SJM writes smut the way someone who has only had Jesus-approved sex would write it, and then uses P*rnhub to fill in the rest.
I couldn’t even get through this book. I was not happy with how any of the characters behaved and reacted - essentially, I just didn’t like that none of the characters were fleshed out well enough, and arguably, at all. I just… it was a lot and for no reason. 💀
Okay this totally encapsulated why I genuinely didn't trust anything Rhysand did in ACOMAF but I couldn't put it into words. And the possessiveness of Tamlin was so out of character for some reason. I totally get they would eventually break up for other reasons too though. Never understood why the 100+ year old guys acted just as mature (sometimes less than) the literal teenage girl.
"These aren't characters anymore. They're puppets" is really the soul of my problems with this book, but it's also the reason I can't hate Rhysand or Tamlin. They're both victims of abuse from their author. They have no will or character of their own anymore. Where that should be is instead Sarah smashing them together like action figures and telling us to clap.
I am listening to the graphic audiobook of A Court of Mist & Fury and I am halfway through it and I don’t get why people like Rhysand and Feyre. I like her sister Nesta as she is the smarter and even stronger sister. Feyre is stupid. She literally brings the king of Hybern to her sisters house and doesn’t think that she is putting their lives at risks. Also I don’t like what she did to Tamlin. 😊⚔️
not reading a SJM book could be the best thing bc it do be feeling like a cult sometimes when i'm voicing disagreements. it's like you gotta love it or roast it you can't just be in the middle.
The way Rhysand manipulated everyone into giving him a part of their powers in ACOWAR, but he got fooled by Elain to make her look more human for Greyson and because she hated she became fae, never makes me not laugh.💀 And about the mates subject, Rhysand said mates are rare, which makes me think no one knows much about this subject. What if Feyre and Tamlin were actual mates and then something happened(through something i mean Rhysand shoving his devilish wing tip between them)? Rhysand got full control over her that even her words and thoughts sound like they're coming from him.
sorry to appear 5 months later but i just finished de trilogy and ended up full of questions... although in your video you said the bonding mate doesn't make sense, I desagree cause even though feyre was a human and rhys was "féerico" (in portuguese because I don't know the word in english, sorry) the object of being mates was beyond the worlds I guess.. and he doesn't love her at first, neither did she.. but they had that connection that made him see her on her dreams or something and they met and he gets impressed by her and it all turned into love, i guess that point is OKAY. BUT WHY DID SARAH TRIED SO HARD TO MESS WITH TAMLIN? I mean, it's not like i care for him, but that was so unfair to his character... i bet he tried to give feyre time to figure out her feelings on the same time he was full of bagage to deal with too (the same way that rhys' court did to nestha on acosf)... supposed it wasn't real love but some kind of exciment for the new world, but then she could just admmit it instead of treating him that bad (and then tamlin gave away her sisters and it all went off but before it I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTANDDDDDD). and tamlin ended up ALL ALONE WITH HIS COURT RUINED WITH NO ONE BY HIS SIDE, man... it doesn't fit. ALSO, tamlin wasn't powerful as rhys, what could've happened if rhys couldn't make a power bubble to put feyre into it? ops, i extended myself. loved the video. thank you ♥
I also thought Freyre was kind of an emotional manipulator whth Rhys. Did anyone else? It was steamy but i felt both those main relationships were toxic! 😂
I was waiting for this video because from your live sprint I knew you were gonna tear this book up😂🤣 I love this whole series & can't wait for ACOSF😍 🗡
Tamlin’s love was for only to break the curse. Would he have loved her if not for the circumstances. At the same time .. Rhysand is equally driven my motives and for power… either of them are not any better than the other.. he only made the bargain knowing that it can be used in the future for his own purposes so kind of both are equally screwed up
A. i love this beat you have on. B. we NEED a review of ACOWAR plz and thank you. I actually might red Throne of Glass now. Crescent City apparently doesnt have SMUT and I trust u when u say its better than ACOTAR.
that acowar will definitely be coming in 2021. having finished the acotar books i feel like there is a similar amount of smut in crescent city. i was led to believe sjm be having characters fuck every three seconds. maybe acowar and frost and starlight were horny, but cresent city is v acomaf in the way that the smut pops in at the end as a little treat... but yes, thorne of glass is the superior series if you want cohesive character arcs and a plot and sex on the beach.
omg THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one who thought Rhysand’s story of how he’s always loved Feyre was FULL of holes, like I didn’t buy it for one second. I honestly don’t see the hype everyone puts on this book, I honestly thought the third one was the best out of the three. the fourth absolutely SUCKS, and I’m currently reading the fifth so we shall see… but yes, Rhysand is pure garbage. I honestly started liking Tamlin again because of how fucked up Rhysand’s character is
A lot of people are crying about Tamlin, but he was boring asf compared to rhysand in the first book, so I didnt care. His character assassination was convincing enough that being said this series has tons of problems, one of which being infodumping, I couldnt care about rhysands backstory or his friends, I couldnt care about anything at all that was going on, and by the time the third book is there the plot is recycled, there is nothing to say about thr characters bc it was all infodumped last book, and rhysand and feyre are already together sooo???? what now??? how do you shit out 700 pages of nothing???? credits to SJM for that
I completely disagree with you. This is not a book about war. This is a romance book about Feyre's relationship with Rhys and Tamlin and it does in fact tie into the previous book. And the whole comparison with throne of glass is stupid, that series was literally carried by dues ex machinas in the last book, imo EoS is the best ToG book, and it does end pretty similar to acomaf, except that here Feyre actually goes semi on her own will to help in the war. The mating bond in throne of glass is so bad, its just not built up correctly, here it actually makes sense. Mating in acotar makes sense since most mates are actually human, and usually arent met.
ok so first of all rhysand has been through so much. he literally had to sleep with the person he hated the most for 49 years to save the people he loves... and you guys say he’s a bad guy? he’s literally so caring towards feyre and always gives her a choice and supports her no matter what. he brought her out of ptsd when tamlin was destroying her. he was a good guy and everything bad he had done was justified for a good reason which was thag he was protecting feyre.
i'm so happy that people really like acomaf and they can appreciate the retconning that sjm did in this book. rhys has a lot of fans out there, but he will never be a character that i appreciate for all the reasons that i discuss in this video. if you wanted the full video and still disagree that's great, but i'm not trying to change anyone's opinion on the matter. i'm here to talk about my interpretation of the text and keep moving
So breaking her already broken arm is justified to force her into a contract so he can feed on her for information about the spring court? Drugging her and having her dance drunk NAKED in front of the entire court system is redeemable because he wanted to piss off Tamlin? (and then randomly decided he wanted to stop others from touching her? BS, the paint was enough and he can literally read peoples minds, lol) Giving her a choice? Telling her to do one bad thing or another and that those are her only options is giving her a choice? No, thats manipulating her to choose what she most likely would which would benefit rhysand. cuz leaving her a choice be, "this is the situation, what do you think we should do?" instead of telling these are the only two things. who knows, if she had THE CHOICE, maybe should could of thought of a third option? Completely leaving her in the dark about the weaver, and other characters is not manipulating her and taking advantage of her? Rhysands tragic backstory is cool and all, but making it into a romantic excuse is pure BS lol
Que romántico y protector es que te torturen, te droguen, te humillen y maltraten frente a otras personas para poder demostrar amor. Tu comentario se cae por si solo al decir que aun cuando Rhysand fue abusado por 5o años, no tuvo piedad por Feyre y termino abusando de su compañera. Rhysand es un personaje nefasto que se escuda en halagos seudo feministas para manipular a Feyre. Cada lector es libre de enamorarse del personaje que quiera. Sin embargo, no se puede tapar el sol con un dedo y Rhysand no es mejor que Tamlin con sus actitudes machista y su actuar que no respeta la vida de nadie. Permitio que mataran a Claire cuando dejó que creyeran que era Feyre. No tiene escrupulos.
@@BN-hp8um - Agreed. Those "it's your choice" sounds and seems manipulative considering a.) it makes one think they have one despite the choices being dictated by him and b.) he still has a say on which information he may/may not feed you with ergo, going back to a.).
Tamlin and Jacob Black are in group therapy together for “male love interests that got character assassinated”
Add Stefan Salvatore There.
The fact he is the most "powerful highlord" yet somehow the illyrians are still abusing their women for 500 years of his reign is crazy to me.
It never fails to amuse me that fans forget about what Rhysand did in Book 1. All that creepy assault is pushed to the side and he becomes a feminist love interest all of a sudden. The romanticization of abusive relationships made me dnf this series.
It's a good feeling that someone FINALLY dislikes Rhys. I hated him ever since ACOTAR
as one should.
same
Same
I hated what Sarah did to Tamlin. People paint him as someone who coward away from Amarantha to save himself, but he'd lost most of his powers and lived with a heart of stone for 50 years, lived with his face masked at all hours of the day for 50 years- talk about dehumanizing. He lost his friends over the wall for 50 years, and tamlin is the one who killed Amarantha! Not Rhysand-even though he claimed he knew he loved Feyre in the moment she tossed that bone at Amarantha's feet. Feyre didn't kill Amarantha, Rhysand didn't. Tamlin killed that ugly bitch. I won't justify his actions of locking Feyre up- that was wrong. But if we dialed back the scope and saw it all from his pov- the level of his depression and PTSD. Rhysand puts on an ugly evil mask and behaves so devilishly before everyone!!!!!! Not knowing Rhysand beyond the ugliness he shows the world, why wouldn't Tamlin be overly protective over a woman he loved so much, who he believed loved him, and was manipulated to go to his worst enemies home for 2 weeks out of every month, not knowing what he makes her do for him! Rhysand drugged Feyre and made her dance publically for him and the crowd. And really for NO GOOD REASON. Forcing his tongue down her throat wasn't a grand idea either. There were other ways of directing Tamlin's anger toward Amarantha- taking Feyre was it!!!! Also he sought out Feyre. Went looking for her, and Feyre asked Lucien "why didn't he come for me?" Maybe for the same reason Mor took you from the house and Rhys didn't. Rhys sand it would have broken law if he took her. I'm guessing Tamlin knew the law as well. Also, Rhys said he's tear the world apart looking for her..... Tamlin went looking for her and didn't tear the world apart. He let her go though it broke him. I'm sorry, but I would have loved it had Tamlin andf Feyre learned to love each other and grow and conquer their fears and The old vile inside battle between the Spring Court and Night Court could come together and fight Hybern together. Rhys could see his own power being used against him during meetings- Feyre could have been built up to be so much stronger than she was shown in the actual book. Gyrating as the High Lords play thing in front of a congregation was absolutely disgusting and sexualzing and demoralizing. Sometimes I think about all the destruction Tamlin has gone through, and what Feyre has put him through, and Rhys rubbing Tamlins self-acknowledged mistakes in his face is disturbing and childish. Tamlin locked Feyre in a cage, and had her sisters turned to Fae. Rhys TWISTED Feyre's broken bone and had Clare Baker killed. Feyre has her sisters. Clares parents don't have their daughter!!!!!!
YES TO THIS. Everyone seems to forget that Tamlin (and Lucien) only knew Rhys as being wicked--because that's the mask Rhys wore for hundreds of years. Then being Amarantha's whre, no high fae liked or trusted Rhys! Obviously Tamlin is going to freak out that Feyre is taken by Rhys--ESPECIALLY because Feyre has all the High Lord's powers and Tamlin knows this and is trying to keep it secret from the other High Lords to protect Feyre. Now THE most powerful High Lord has her, to do who knows what with that power. And that note from Feyre sent saying something like, "leave me be this is my choice" sounds like any abducted persons note. We need a Tamlin's POV from Under the Mountain, and what was happening to him that he couldn't help Feyre. I think Maas assassinated Tamlin's character, made him turn a 180 from the first book, and decided she liked the dark prince love interest more than Tamlin. I'd rather see Lucien and Tamlin friends again and Tamlin rebuilding his court.
Thank you!!!! Exactly!
YEESSSS
Tamlin also tried to help one of Feyre's sisters when they were thrown in Cauldron - because he never intended to hurt them, he just wanted Feyre back.
Yaaaaasss 💯💯💯💯 to everything you said. The least Tamlin was redemption if not being the main love interest.
I hate what she did to Tamlin. He deserved better
couldnt agree more
The character assassination for him was diabolical & he absolutely did not deserve it
Rhysand slander is my favorite topic on unpopular book opinions💀💀. He is literally the worse and only gets away with stuff cuz he's good looking
And he's chsrming when talking..... thats why
literally no one has any idea what he looks like though... that makes no sense
@@morganfemale9478 Rhysand Dick-Rider spotted 🚨🚨🚨
I mean… Is it slander if it’s true?
@@morganfemale9478 you stupid asf dawg. All this fanart and u can't comprehend that people can visualize characters based on their description? Dumb asf Rhysand fans per usual
i couldn’t make it past the second book in ToG but enjoyed most of the ACOTAR series lmao but when you said ACOMAF undoes everything in the first book... u didn’t lie lol it still makes me mad that SJM ruined everything decent about Tamlin to uplift her woke disney princess King Rhysand. it would’ve been better had they both been dark morally grey characters... they’re literally Fae. what’s not clicking
i think it ultimately boiled down to this series, or this arc of the series, being told strictly from feyre's perspective. it's such and odd way to choose to tell this story and believing that feyre see's rhys' actions as good when they are comparable is so weird to me. it might be a byproduct of this originally being an adult novel marketed to a younger demographic, but i do think there's a lot to unpack with a court of mist and fury that doesn't bc so much of the book is feyre wanting to rub rhys' wings and so that becomes the discussion. or the discussion becomes framed around the idea of the reader just accepting rhy's explanation of events, even when they don't line up with what we've read or they only exist to forward this narrative of him being the good prong of the love triangle.
She FOR SURE, got dumped soooo bad by some hot guy named Tamlin. 😂 I could literally "touch" her projected insecurity all over the place with that, "pick me, pick me ( in this case, pick the character of MY preference bc I said so ) vibe which is just pukish.
Headcannon Rhys manipulated Feyre's mind - he's the one who teaches her all these demati or whatever the fuck things - especially since she literally constantly directly compares him and Tamlin but goes beyond and above to explain why he's different and what he does is OK. That's why she's experiencing earthquake orgasms and shit😭😂
That's also why Nesta doesn't fuck with him, she's immune to all that glamour shit, anyways Nesta best character
i definitely agree with nesta being the best character. she's a true icon and we have to stan.
as for rhys manipulating feyre's mind, he does talk about how he reached into her mind and broke it right before she left tamlin's castle the first time i believe. it was part of the presex chapter, so like, it's all blury to me. i don't think that he manipulated her in the long run though, but i do think that him continuously putting her in situations that he benefited from without the full context and acting as though they were for her benefit was a form of manipulation that didn't really require him to reach into feyre's mind
@@itsmonteprice yea, I don't actually think he did mind control her, I just headcannon it that way.
Same way I headcannon that the night court genocided the "dusk" court {it bothers me so much that there's a dawn court but no dusk court} and that's why the night court is not only the biggest and Rhys the most "powerful"🙄 but it has 2 divided peoples and cultures. Like the most powerful high lord but his whole second court don't fuck with him. Sounds like a colonizer
@@ae_neo34 it's the way the court of nightmares is supposed to be just full of evil people that no one fucks with and yet he doesn't seem to do anything about it bc tradition for me
YES! Nesta shoulda been main character not Feyre lol
@@BN-hp8um period. And I won't even entertain sjm’s new Nesta book. Like Nesta losing her power and being fully gaslit into conforming to the circle jerk? No.
hated rhysand since the first book. tamlin however… yes it’s true i love that problematic man with my whole chest. i’m outside the spring court screaming “i can change him” skskksks 😭😂
i love that someone loves tamlin, won't be me, but i'm happy it's someone.
ME TOO
Same!
Same!
Tamlin's my favorite High Lord, and character!
Unlike Rhysand, you probably could change Tamlin. Just get him some bloody therapy and you've done most of the work, because most of the worst parts of Tamlin's actions are just straight up trauma responses.
⚔️ No lies were told here! I can't take Rhysand as a love interest after the way he physically and sexually assaulted Feyre in ACOTAR.
aahhh preach rhysand is a menace to society. sjm tried so hard to make him likeable and i hated it 🙃 ⚔️
sjm really thought she was doing something with rhys and i love that for her, but that's for her not for me.
Here's a theory/head cannon that could've made the whole plot bearable: Make Feyra an unreliable narrator.
Rhysand mind-controlled her down under the mountain (remember the whole naked dancing/groping scene?) and had been using her as his eyes and wars to spy on Tamlin. Tam can still be controlling but now we question how much is real and how much was Rhysand assuming control.
that is a fascinating theory, one of a kind for sure
I'm dying just at the bit before the intro 😂
literally ACOMAF and ACOTAR feel like books in completely different series they're so disconnected imo
it's such a hard left turn that the book takes and for what?
I feel so relieved someone else feels the same way about the book as I did.
I didn't like how Rhysand treated Feyre in ACOTAR so if was hard for me to like him in ACOMAF.
yeah, a lot of how he was presented in ACOTAR did not sit well with me and try as maas did she could not undo what she had done in a way that worked for me. i'll just rock on team feyre should be single i guess.
Y'all!!!! Finally someone who shares my thoughts over Rhysand
based on my comment section i think there are more people that hate him than the community led me to believe
I loathed Rhysand from the start. The things he does in ACOTAR are alone worthy of being put down like a dog, I never even bothered with the rest of the series. I feel like the author had shown her true colors
i can't say that you missed out on too much by not continuing with the series. especially if you loathed rhysand, no need to suffer his presence the way i did.
the amount of times rhysand told feyre "it's your choice" was just annoying. like we get it ur better than tamlin 😒. overall i gave the book 3/5 bc it was more interesting than acotar but i didn't care about the characters. ⚔️
this makes a lot of sense to me.
@@mm5xo He doesn't give her all of the information to make an informed choice though - he lies and manipulates her all the time. So is that really a choice?
Monte dragging Rhysand saved 2020.
doing my part for the community. 💙💛
Thank you 💯I read this series back when it first released and was stunned and later disappointed with how ACOMAF turned out. Rhysand should have stayed a morally ambiguous/antagonistic character, imo. The retconning SJM does to Tamlin's character and the content in general is frustrating. I've been seeing this series pop up lately and so decided to look into it again. Thank you for making this video!
yeah... rhysand was always a questionable figure and seeing people thirsting over him after reading this had me feeling like i was was living in the upside down.
There are people who agree with me? Oh thank heavens, some sanity exists.
I APPRECIATE THIS SO MUCH!!!! Also, you're so authentic and amazing.
Hulu is making a tv series on it…… I’m currently trying to write my own book series, and seeing books like these get published with a huge fandom is discouraging
why? it should be encouraging! look at how many badly written and poor plots are being published! if you recognise that then your book will probably be better
Everyone talking about the smut scene and I was left confused…y’all idea of steamy spicy scenes are…tame
part of me wants to get it, because ya shouldn't really be known for the steam factor and this was one of the newer titles to bring that back, but like... even then it's not worth all the discussion that pitiful chapter gets.
@@Mookneepie I've said on other platforms that SJM writes smut the way someone who has only had Jesus-approved sex would write it, and then uses P*rnhub to fill in the rest.
I couldn’t even get through this book. I was not happy with how any of the characters behaved and reacted - essentially, I just didn’t like that none of the characters were fleshed out well enough, and arguably, at all.
I just… it was a lot and for no reason. 💀
yeah, it was easily a disappointment for me and i still fail to understand why this of all the books is the most beloved by sister sarah's readership
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choices™ were made
Okay this totally encapsulated why I genuinely didn't trust anything Rhysand did in ACOMAF but I couldn't put it into words. And the possessiveness of Tamlin was so out of character for some reason. I totally get they would eventually break up for other reasons too though. Never understood why the 100+ year old guys acted just as mature (sometimes less than) the literal teenage girl.
Rhysand belongs to the streets
apparently
yes yes yes - team tamlin always - she ruined him - i was so mad
"These aren't characters anymore. They're puppets" is really the soul of my problems with this book, but it's also the reason I can't hate Rhysand or Tamlin. They're both victims of abuse from their author. They have no will or character of their own anymore. Where that should be is instead Sarah smashing them together like action figures and telling us to clap.
I am listening to the graphic audiobook of A Court of Mist & Fury and I am halfway through it and I don’t get why people like Rhysand and Feyre. I like her sister Nesta as she is the smarter and even stronger sister. Feyre is stupid. She literally brings the king of Hybern to her sisters house and doesn’t think that she is putting their lives at risks. Also I don’t like what she did to Tamlin. 😊⚔️
⚔️ I have never even read a SJM book but I love watching you take on the entire fandom with your hot takes. I hope you have a great New Year.
not reading a SJM book could be the best thing bc it do be feeling like a cult sometimes when i'm voicing disagreements. it's like you gotta love it or roast it you can't just be in the middle.
He literally teisted the bone in her infected arm
The way Rhysand manipulated everyone into giving him a part of their powers in ACOWAR, but he got fooled by Elain to make her look more human for Greyson and because she hated she became fae, never makes me not laugh.💀
And about the mates subject, Rhysand said mates are rare, which makes me think no one knows much about this subject. What if Feyre and Tamlin were actual mates and then something happened(through something i mean Rhysand shoving his devilish wing tip between them)? Rhysand got full control over her that even her words and thoughts sound like they're coming from him.
TAMLIN STAN 🔥
Haha I love you saying this. I thought things were so silly.
The sass tho at the start XD
*To the tune of Bill Nye the Science Guy* Rhysand, the Garbage man!
All seriousness, Loved this video!
lol i love rhysand but seeing you roast him feeds my soul
sword cross emoji (i'm on my laptop so dont have emojis T_T
happy to have done my part to feed your soul
No one :
Random 12+ girlies with underdeveloped frontal cortex : lOvE mE sOmE mAniPuLatiVe, exhibitionist a.b.u.s.e.r in disguise of a charmer 🐷
sorry to appear 5 months later but i just finished de trilogy and ended up full of questions... although in your video you said the bonding mate doesn't make sense, I desagree cause even though feyre was a human and rhys was "féerico" (in portuguese because I don't know the word in english, sorry) the object of being mates was beyond the worlds I guess.. and he doesn't love her at first, neither did she.. but they had that connection that made him see her on her dreams or something and they met and he gets impressed by her and it all turned into love, i guess that point is OKAY. BUT WHY DID SARAH TRIED SO HARD TO MESS WITH TAMLIN? I mean, it's not like i care for him, but that was so unfair to his character... i bet he tried to give feyre time to figure out her feelings on the same time he was full of bagage to deal with too (the same way that rhys' court did to nestha on acosf)... supposed it wasn't real love but some kind of exciment for the new world, but then she could just admmit it instead of treating him that bad (and then tamlin gave away her sisters and it all went off but before it I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTANDDDDDD). and tamlin ended up ALL ALONE WITH HIS COURT RUINED WITH NO ONE BY HIS SIDE, man... it doesn't fit. ALSO, tamlin wasn't powerful as rhys, what could've happened if rhys couldn't make a power bubble to put feyre into it? ops, i extended myself. loved the video. thank you ♥
That lip color is a 10/10
i bought it so long ago but was not sure that i really vibed with it on me until this video
I also thought Freyre was kind of an emotional manipulator whth Rhys. Did anyone else? It was steamy but i felt both those main relationships were toxic! 😂
I was waiting for this video because from your live sprint I knew you were gonna tear this book up😂🤣 I love this whole series & can't wait for ACOSF😍 🗡
it needed to be said. also v much looking to my queen nesta's book
i don't trust the hype of most booktube
the way i know not to trust them and yet i attempt to every time. it's the colonization.
The one thing I've realized is that we have very different reading tastes...but I am totally here for all your vids... love these rants
i'm happy that you keep coming back even though we disagree
i've never read a sjm book and i probably never will, but i love watching people dunk on white books. happy new years, monte!
happy new year! 💙💛
i hope you know that i read this title to the tune of the 'spider man, does whatever a spider can' theme song
that's pretty iconic of you
Tamlin’s love was for only to break the curse. Would he have loved her if not for the circumstances. At the same time .. Rhysand is equally driven my motives and for power… either of them are not any better than the other.. he only made the bargain knowing that it can be used in the future for his own purposes so kind of both are equally screwed up
Lmaooo- you’re hilarious. Love your commentary
thanks, i do what i can.
You earned another subscriber!
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This 👏🏼👏🏼 Fuck yes. 🤜🏼🤛🏼
a truly trash character
Have I read the books? No! But how am I meant to not click on that title?
you love to hear it
me watching this at 4 am
rip to sleeping
LOL I was so taken by this book at first - I love your video tho omg 😂⚔
i know it's a lot of people's fave, and i love that for y'all
I agree with absolutely everything!! The whole series is such a mess lol, especially that novella...oooooof so bad haha
i'm gonna hold out hope that i'm gonna enjoy the novella bc i know it's just a cute little holiday moment so expectations are low.
A. i love this beat you have on. B. we NEED a review of ACOWAR plz and thank you. I actually might red Throne of Glass now. Crescent City apparently doesnt have SMUT and I trust u when u say its better than ACOTAR.
that acowar will definitely be coming in 2021. having finished the acotar books i feel like there is a similar amount of smut in crescent city. i was led to believe sjm be having characters fuck every three seconds. maybe acowar and frost and starlight were horny, but cresent city is v acomaf in the way that the smut pops in at the end as a little treat... but yes, thorne of glass is the superior series if you want cohesive character arcs and a plot and sex on the beach.
omg THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one who thought Rhysand’s story of how he’s always loved Feyre was FULL of holes, like I didn’t buy it for one second. I honestly don’t see the hype everyone puts on this book, I honestly thought the third one was the best out of the three. the fourth absolutely SUCKS, and I’m currently reading the fifth so we shall see… but yes, Rhysand is pure garbage. I honestly started liking Tamlin again because of how fucked up Rhysand’s character is
SJM is an underwhelming writer.
Oof I’m never reading this series ⚔️😂
i'm positive your time could be better spent elsewhere
@@itsmonteprice thank you for your support 🙏🏼 lol
My 16 year old self ate this trilogy up! But Wings and Ruin was boring tbh
that ending is definitely a mess
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Did we read the same book 🤔😂
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LOL I absolutely love the book but pointsssssss were made here 🤣
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I’m already offended and I just got here
now you should know better
A lot of people are crying about Tamlin, but he was boring asf compared to rhysand in the first book, so I didnt care. His character assassination was convincing enough
that being said this series has tons of problems, one of which being infodumping, I couldnt care about rhysands backstory or his friends, I couldnt care about anything at all that was going on, and by the time the third book is there the plot is recycled, there is nothing to say about thr characters bc it was all infodumped last book, and rhysand and feyre are already together sooo???? what now??? how do you shit out 700 pages of nothing???? credits to SJM for that
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@@melg6834 So instead of typing an actual argument you're gonna call me a clown without actually calling me a clown? lmao💀
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I completely disagree with you. This is not a book about war. This is a romance book about Feyre's relationship with Rhys and Tamlin and it does in fact tie into the previous book. And the whole comparison with throne of glass is stupid, that series was literally carried by dues ex machinas in the last book, imo EoS is the best ToG book, and it does end pretty similar to acomaf, except that here Feyre actually goes semi on her own will to help in the war. The mating bond in throne of glass is so bad, its just not built up correctly, here it actually makes sense. Mating in acotar makes sense since most mates are actually human, and usually arent met.
The way you’re explaining things, sounds like you haven’t actually read the book
Sir, no.
ok so first of all rhysand has been through so much. he literally had to sleep with the person he hated the most for 49 years to save the people he loves... and you guys say he’s a bad guy? he’s literally so caring towards feyre and always gives her a choice and supports her no matter what. he brought her out of ptsd when tamlin was destroying her. he was a good guy and everything bad he had done was justified for a good reason which was thag he was protecting feyre.
i'm so happy that people really like acomaf and they can appreciate the retconning that sjm did in this book. rhys has a lot of fans out there, but he will never be a character that i appreciate for all the reasons that i discuss in this video. if you wanted the full video and still disagree that's great, but i'm not trying to change anyone's opinion on the matter. i'm here to talk about my interpretation of the text and keep moving
So breaking her already broken arm is justified to force her into a contract so he can feed on her for information about the spring court? Drugging her and having her dance drunk NAKED in front of the entire court system is redeemable because he wanted to piss off Tamlin? (and then randomly decided he wanted to stop others from touching her? BS, the paint was enough and he can literally read peoples minds, lol) Giving her a choice? Telling her to do one bad thing or another and that those are her only options is giving her a choice? No, thats manipulating her to choose what she most likely would which would benefit rhysand. cuz leaving her a choice be, "this is the situation, what do you think we should do?" instead of telling these are the only two things. who knows, if she had THE CHOICE, maybe should could of thought of a third option? Completely leaving her in the dark about the weaver, and other characters is not manipulating her and taking advantage of her? Rhysands tragic backstory is cool and all, but making it into a romantic excuse is pure BS lol
Que romántico y protector es que te torturen, te droguen, te humillen y maltraten frente a otras personas para poder demostrar amor. Tu comentario se cae por si solo al decir que aun cuando Rhysand fue abusado por 5o años, no tuvo piedad por Feyre y termino abusando de su compañera. Rhysand es un personaje nefasto que se escuda en halagos seudo feministas para manipular a Feyre. Cada lector es libre de enamorarse del personaje que quiera. Sin embargo, no se puede tapar el sol con un dedo y Rhysand no es mejor que Tamlin con sus actitudes machista y su actuar que no respeta la vida de nadie. Permitio que mataran a Claire cuando dejó que creyeran que era Feyre.
No tiene escrupulos.
@@BN-hp8um - Agreed. Those "it's your choice" sounds and seems manipulative considering a.) it makes one think they have one despite the choices being dictated by him and b.) he still has a say on which information he may/may not feed you with ergo, going back to a.).
Eww, Daheck are 11 year olds doing here?? Get a grip, kid
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