Yeah, both the RS3 and the A45 are hovering around 1550 kg, give or take. The RS6 and E63 are around 2000 kg but those are two behemoths of a car. Surely it was just a mistake.
Who on earth did you have driving those so poorly? Jumping starts, not using launch control in the focus. I like your channel guys but my god most of the differences there were down to the drivers...
Those guys need a lesson in manuals, it's like they weren't even using the RS's launch, especially the mountune RS, my friend has a tuned mountune RS and its a rocket, these guys didn't do it justice
Dom Harding I think a lot of owners are worried about using the full performance. The owners forums are full of people who’ve never tried launch control or used full revs! I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve tried it 👀😂
I highly doubt any Focus RS can keep up with a car that can troll S3, especially from a dig. Saying that makes me feel like you have neither drive or sit in S3 or RS at all. I had a Focus RS then traded it for a Golf R, I can tell you they are dead close.
From a standing start my car can't get near either of them, it's RWD and half a tonne heavier, I'm not talking about launching. I've driven an S3 (one of the cars I test drove in January while shopping around) but not an RS, a friend owns one but I've never been in it. However, I have been at full throttle and not really created a gap to an RS, but multiple times an S3 has looked at my car, clearly thought it's slow and tried to blast past only to find themselves going backwards (including one guy who kept trying for about 25 miles). I own a GS450h, US specs say 5.2 to 60 and the euro is 65kg lighter with more power but EU regs mean it's 5.9 because empty battery performance...I suppose there's some logic to that. Launches like a paper bag full of jam, but from 30 it will comfortably drive past an S3. Of course it's possible the RS I saw was tuned, but my assumption is the GS isn't so fast an RS can't keep up, so I can only go on the evidence I've seen that the one time I got into a race with an RS it kept up while S3s just don't seem to. Point is, based on that evidence, it's surprising that the S3 smashed the RS in this video so comfortably...which suggests that the RS wasn't launched properly. I fully believe that in the real world an S3 would win usually as it's easy to launch, but the RS can't be THAT hard to get it right once on a track surely. Most comments here seem to agree with that sentiment, admittedly without writing an essay like I have...sorry.
None of these comments by haters matter.. This was filmed back in April and All of the people that turned up (including myself) all enjoyed it and Tiff’s company.
Pro drivers, some of the owners weren't even flooring it, I'm looking at you Focus RS MT, had way too many variables. In the end it was more of a drivers skills race than a proper car showdown.
This is horrible. Period. Their fake personalities and them acting surprised when a BMW m140i beats an i30N. And someone please tell me how an audi S3 is that much quicker than the Focus RS. Worst driver ever? We as car enthusiast, want more.
The S3 was likely DCT rather than a manual. I not lecturing, as I'm sure you're aware that in drag racing any form of auto is much more preferable over manual as you have more consistency on launch and the shifts will be faster. In this race it was the consistency of launch which made the difference for sure. The focus definitely bogged down on its launch, but they likely only did 1 pass because I assume they are trying to simulate a race from the lights.
Regardless of the rest of the video, the Drag Race between the A45 and RS3 is the best I've seen - they both start at exactly the same time! Perfect. Oh, it's at 3:55
Incredible video guys! Only a bit dissapointed not all cars were launched really properly, these weren't press cars of course so naturally you'd be more careful (especially the manuals). Would have loved to see time comparisons too (the road might have been too short for that to make sense though). Keep this up, the channel is starting to grow quicker finally :) Been there from early on and don't regret one bit pushing that big red button!
think you will find my car is running 530bhp , not quite the 550 stated but near enough (easy mistake with my number plate ) ,, have a dyno graph if you would like to see it as its a real figure and runs it every day
As an owner of a 140i there’s a few things that need mentioning for me. Firstly the bmw comes into its own 30-90, like it’s genuinely unbelievable. Off the mark the 4wheel boys will obviously take off but in the mid range the 140 is ridiculously quick. Secondly is the handling, which is decent enough but once you start to really push it it’s not in the same class as some other cars, focus rs, rs3 etc. Lastly, and this is the big swing for me is the finance options. So I payed 3k down and £300 pm, which is just astonishing for a car like this. I’d say for this reason alone it’s the best hot hatch your getting in.
@@4889591jh M140i hits 0-60mph in 4.4 seconds. Unless its very wet the audi s3 is not as fast off the line. There are a lot of videos on youtube. The in gear acceleration of an M140i is the same as the 4.2L RS4. Its fast.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo completely agree with that but the conditions have to be perfect to get 4.4 in the bmw. Where as the audi will get it quoted 0.60 nearly every time.
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A burnout on an unprepared surface with street tires is a waste. All you do is ball up the rubber and make the launch tricky. And for an AWD car a burnout is completely unnecessary. The tires need to be slightly wet (not sitting in a water box) and they just need a quick scrub no more than 1 second to expose a new layer of rubber. No burn out needed.
@@Louie9000 on the line the rs il always slower than audi/mercedes/and golf.....in the corner the situation is very different....(i have the rs in track edition configuration.... in every corner is fantastic!)
@@Arman-nl6mg The RS3 also smokes the M2 from standing start. From rolling start it is a tiny bit faster than the M2 (non Competition). So yes, it will smoke the M140i as well, no doubt!
This is an awesome format for car "challenges". I'd love to see different versions of this i.e. various types of cars, various tracks. People pick their teams and then put them in order without knowing the other teams order so you don't know who you're going against, like the Ryder Cup.
This was genuinely great! Keep doing it like this with you 3!!! Reminds me of the old "Best Motoring International" which was the pinnacle for car enthusiast. I'm just sad there was no SEAT Cupra at this party :-(
Focus RS is so far behind on the Germans. Had 1 and it just isnt as fast everybody wants it to be. Handling, yes, superb, much better then all the other cars, accept maybe for the impreza, whats also an amazing car. But Just go fast, in a straight Line, BMW, Mercedes and Audi are Just way faster. I switch to an A45 AMG which is Just a way better car. I also drove An 140i but that also was not super fast and handling, like all BMW models from last years, is Just not as good anymore. BMW is loosing terrain on Mercedes and Audi fast. To bad. Always liked the M models, but there simply to far behind.
What a load of garbage. Half the cars were launched at idle from the looks of it. Left lane diver was fixing races for the camera. Hate fake stuff like this. Audi S3 down 69 bhp wins by 4 or 5 car lengths. Come on!! Can't even hear the focus engine revs as it gets close.
stock for stock the S3 and Golf R just edges the Focus in a straight line because of the DSG. Agreed though the guy in the RS didnt even use launch control....
I've had liked to have seen them pick the cars and then see what the lowest combined lap times would have been... that would have made an interesting shoot out.
Great video once again. You guys should do a episode on the "resto-mod" MG's by Frontline developments!, tiff drove one before but there are two models and it would be perfect for you guys to make a quality video!! Here's to hoping.
3:50 ... more than 2000kg for the A45 and RS3 ? That doesn't sound right. That's nearer to S-Class and RS6 weights than hot hatch weights. Surely.
True
Indeed and the s3 weights 1470kg
a 45 is 1555Kg and rs3 is 1510 kg .
Yeah, both the RS3 and the A45 are hovering around 1550 kg, give or take. The RS6 and E63 are around 2000 kg but those are two behemoths of a car. Surely it was just a mistake.
its the maximum weight not the empty weight
The worst driver in the world is in the Focus RS
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+2
True rs is faster
Glad other people noticed this also. Bouncing off the rev limiter and granny shifting.
und wie bekomme hier nen anfall wie fährt er das auto der ist um einiges besser
Audi RS3 and Golf R and BMW M140i are legends.
💯
BMW M140i is the best car price performance out there‼️
Who on earth did you have driving those so poorly? Jumping starts, not using launch control in the focus. I like your channel guys but my god most of the differences there were down to the drivers...
Just us Joe Public driving our own cars !!
The guy in the focus didnt even floor it😂
really? Golf? pfffffffffffff
Dsg will always beat manual, I knew the golf r would beat it but I didn't think the s3 would beat a tuned rs
and my Golf Wagon beat the S3 later too.
I think we can conclude that the majority of Focus RS owners don’t know how to launch a car 😂
Those guys need a lesson in manuals, it's like they weren't even using the RS's launch, especially the mountune RS, my friend has a tuned mountune RS and its a rocket, these guys didn't do it justice
Dom Harding I think a lot of owners are worried about using the full performance. The owners forums are full of people who’ve never tried launch control or used full revs! I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve tried it 👀😂
Yup, I've never driven either but a Focus RS will keep up with my car yet I can troll an S3 all day. Why did they buy a car they can't drive...
I highly doubt any Focus RS can keep up with a car that can troll S3, especially from a dig. Saying that makes me feel like you have neither drive or sit in S3 or RS at all. I had a Focus RS then traded it for a Golf R, I can tell you they are dead close.
From a standing start my car can't get near either of them, it's RWD and half a tonne heavier, I'm not talking about launching. I've driven an S3 (one of the cars I test drove in January while shopping around) but not an RS, a friend owns one but I've never been in it. However, I have been at full throttle and not really created a gap to an RS, but multiple times an S3 has looked at my car, clearly thought it's slow and tried to blast past only to find themselves going backwards (including one guy who kept trying for about 25 miles). I own a GS450h, US specs say 5.2 to 60 and the euro is 65kg lighter with more power but EU regs mean it's 5.9 because empty battery performance...I suppose there's some logic to that. Launches like a paper bag full of jam, but from 30 it will comfortably drive past an S3. Of course it's possible the RS I saw was tuned, but my assumption is the GS isn't so fast an RS can't keep up, so I can only go on the evidence I've seen that the one time I got into a race with an RS it kept up while S3s just don't seem to. Point is, based on that evidence, it's surprising that the S3 smashed the RS in this video so comfortably...which suggests that the RS wasn't launched properly. I fully believe that in the real world an S3 would win usually as it's easy to launch, but the RS can't be THAT hard to get it right once on a track surely. Most comments here seem to agree with that sentiment, admittedly without writing an essay like I have...sorry.
None of these comments by haters matter.. This was filmed back in April and All of the people that turned up (including myself) all enjoyed it and Tiff’s company.
Even stock the b58 is a beast.
They didn’t even use the launch control in the Focus RS, or bloody shift it properly.
from my own experience with the rs (stock) vs s3 its a close race but not a freaking 3 car gap lol
Stevie Wonder cant see the dash instructions or paddles
Lol S3 destroyes rs in a sprint.
This was terrible...
Couldn't agree more
Could u do better?
Just cringe
To add to the fun and unpredictability each race was of course unscripted and driven by the cars owner. Do you prefer this format or with pro drivers?
Pro drivers
Lovecars pro drivers
Pro drivers, some of the owners weren't even flooring it, I'm looking at you Focus RS MT, had way too many variables. In the end it was more of a drivers skills race than a proper car showdown.
i think non pro drivers provides better preception of what a normal person can do with these cars
Fake the RS is way faster
This is horrible. Period. Their fake personalities and them acting surprised when a BMW m140i beats an i30N. And someone please tell me how an audi S3 is that much quicker than the Focus RS. Worst driver ever? We as car enthusiast, want more.
Jamalogo10 ford is shit that's why
And you’re a 🛎 end
Guy in the focus didn't even know how to use launch comtroll.
S3 is conservative in its claims. Ford overstates and under delivers.
The S3 was likely DCT rather than a manual. I not lecturing, as I'm sure you're aware that in drag racing any form of auto is much more preferable over manual as you have more consistency on launch and the shifts will be faster. In this race it was the consistency of launch which made the difference for sure. The focus definitely bogged down on its launch, but they likely only did 1 pass because I assume they are trying to simulate a race from the lights.
"It's not about the car , It's about the driver who behind the wheel " - Henry Ford .
Not sure about this one. Very chaotic and not very informative..
Rob Goff Nothing wrong with a bit of chaos!
Still fun
Could u do better?
Think it could have been better organized with a more consistent test base..
Best one of all M140i, without doubt a wolf in sheep's clothing! 🇬🇧👍🏼
Regardless of the rest of the video, the Drag Race between the A45 and RS3 is the best I've seen - they both start at exactly the same time! Perfect. Oh, it's at 3:55
We have a slow mo of that on our Instagram page 👍
Both the S3 and Golf R have DSG gearboxes. The Focus RS just can’t compete going through the gears!
Jayco not with the actual owners driving lol
my S3 eats em up. RS3 soooon
S3,RS3...always.
Focus RS boys died inside that day they watched this.
07:03 😂😂THE GUY AT THE BACK TRYING TO FIT IN😂😂😂😂 OR SHOULD I SAY 'PUMPKIN 🎃 GUY'😂😂😂😂😂
Incredible video guys! Only a bit dissapointed not all cars were launched really properly, these weren't press cars of course so naturally you'd be more careful (especially the manuals). Would have loved to see time comparisons too (the road might have been too short for that to make sense though). Keep this up, the channel is starting to grow quicker finally :) Been there from early on and don't regret one bit pushing that big red button!
Great video! I think perhaps the most surprising thing for me is quite how heavy some of these modern performance cars are!
Really fun video as always guys, the driver of the RS3 and M140i really nailed it 😉🤣
Well done team Paul. Lots of fun to watch.
I am not surprised that the Golf R beat the Focus RS.
I'm surprised those people bought a Focus RS if they can't drive them properly...
You know fackall ...
@@xaviercaron-belanger1418 I do, he's an interesting bloke that Fackall. He can also drive a Focus RS properly.
Golf r has the magic dsg 🤣
@@valdish4369 yeah!!! automat car is not for really race rally...maybe better for supermarcket and baby.....
Great video. Thanks to all (including people that brought their cars).
Why are people surprised that the Ford's are losing 😂😂
youtube user Because if that driver used the launch control in the RS and didn’t have a terrific driver it would have won both races
Kudos to this great video - I love those Bavarian powerhouses especially those BMW's, AUDI'S and the freakishly fast MERCEDES BENZ A45 AMG 4MATIC
M140 i is the best hatchback hands down
Just you guys selecting the cars had me laughing out loud and the races are yet to start!
would’ve been great to see some timed 0-60s!
My Focus RS is definitely not that slow! What happened? Doesn't seem like they used launch control, especially against the DSG equipped cars
It’s painful to watch the MK3 focus RS, why even do a race if you launch it like that and change gear at 4K revs
Nice
No way in hell that Subaru is modified to 550 HP - sounds like the owner is bumping up their figures and not backing them up with a dyno graph...
think you will find my car is running 530bhp , not quite the 550 stated but near enough (easy mistake with my number plate ) ,, have a dyno graph if you would like to see it as its a real figure and runs it every day
ua-cam.com/video/YbUULq9pF6g/v-deo.html. ,, more in depth look at my Impreza and whats iv done to it
Did you drag any other car on the day?
Was the dyno calibrated and designed for your car... unlikely. Didn’t look like 550bhp. Quick but I’ll bet the stock rs3 is quicker
Domino Steve I’d be disappointed with your car if it was mine as that race was abysmal against that 395 hp one that was almost as fast as yours
As an owner of a 140i there’s a few things that need mentioning for me.
Firstly the bmw comes into its own 30-90, like it’s genuinely unbelievable. Off the mark the 4wheel boys will obviously take off but in the mid range the 140 is ridiculously quick.
Secondly is the handling, which is decent enough but once you start to really push it it’s not in the same class as some other cars, focus rs, rs3 etc.
Lastly, and this is the big swing for me is the finance options. So I payed 3k down and £300 pm, which is just astonishing for a car like this. I’d say for this reason alone it’s the best hot hatch your getting in.
7:03 right side. Like if you saw it
ill take the BMW M140i anyday. The car has character and soul something the other two fail to have.
Very cheap and terribly executed copy/paste content. Really sad for Tiff to see how he seems to have to do this..
0:19 Thats how rich people choose what to drive today😆🤑.
😂😂
Cool vid guys. RS3 for me all day long. Fave car there would be the iconic Escort Cosworth. AWD wins at that game 👍👍
Great video lads
Thank you
Can you please race the S3 with the M140i
M140i is a lot faster mate.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo I know it is but wpupd be interesting to see the gap.
S3 would win easily launch would destroy the 140i
@@4889591jh M140i hits 0-60mph in 4.4 seconds. Unless its very wet the audi s3 is not as fast off the line. There are a lot of videos on youtube. The in gear acceleration of an M140i is the same as the 4.2L RS4. Its fast.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo completely agree with that but the conditions have to be perfect to get 4.4 in the bmw. Where as the audi will get it quoted 0.60 nearly every time.
really enjoyed that... top marks for putting it together.
Glad you liked it
I seriously thought they were punking the dude for picking the focus, but that was just crappy driving.
This was the best video yet! Keep this series alive!
No Meg RS, Type R or Cupra???
NO THANKS
Been waiting for this, awesome guys
Where's the Leon Cupra?
It broke down.
In the bin
xDDD... so the VW golf R is the next
León cupra is sheet compareted With we
@@M2c_5xx Are the same chasis and same engine... If you are blaming Leon you are blaming all VW group xDDD
Thumbs up even befor I watched it!!! Anything with Love Cars and Tiff is good. In fact it's great!!
Those weight figures are way off. Since when has the rs3 been over 2 ton lol !
Be nice to know which ones were modified so we could discount those wins.
Almost all of them were modified
To be honest i thought it was boring...Hot Hatches are not built for Drag Racing.. leave that to Muscle cars they have the History. Plus no Burnouts??
The only one you could do a proper burnout in is the beamer
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@@jorgetejada5619 pardon?
@@DAkeemT94 yeh but it looks boring
A burnout on an unprepared surface with street tires is a waste. All you do is ball up the rubber and make the launch tricky. And for an AWD car a burnout is completely unnecessary.
The tires need to be slightly wet (not sitting in a water box) and they just need a quick scrub no more than 1 second to expose a new layer of rubber. No burn out needed.
Enjoyed seeing the old school Subaru doing well. Also have to say, the newer cars with their DSG are pretty quick too!
Wow Focus RS is as slow as truck
It's not pro drivers it's the cars actual driving so most likely down to that.. the take offs and gear changes where trash
@@Louie9000 Focus is a piece of shit
Audi and golf have dsg......rs have manual shift....
@@sandroceriani8554 I know and the owners where terrible at using the launch controll and at changing gears.
@@Louie9000 on the line the rs il always slower than audi/mercedes/and golf.....in the corner the situation is very different....(i have the rs in track edition configuration.... in every corner is fantastic!)
Good drag races guys;
no way you guys didn't choose the blue Subaru WRX STI, the coolest car in that line.
😻😻😻
That was waaay too entertaining !! get a show guys, i'll definitely tune in.
Ah the good old mk2 Focus RS. The best modern hot hatch.
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EPICCCCCC, GREAT FUN.
Just get a race on with the RS3 v m140i
Uhh the RS3 will smoke the M140i because the latter's got RWD as opposed to AWD
@@Arman-nl6mg so according you a porsche gt2rs is slow because its rwd hahaha
@@Arman-nl6mg Maybe so, but i think it would be much closer on a rolling start.
@@Arman-nl6mg The RS3 also smokes the M2 from standing start. From rolling start it is a tiny bit faster than the M2 (non Competition). So yes, it will smoke the M140i as well, no doubt!
@@Arman-nl6mg in your dream FUCKED MORON
Wasn’t the best most accurate racing but a very fun and enjoyable video anyway! Thanks guys!
everything vs focus rs :)
Very grateful for another excellent video. Thank you all so much
Rs3 love 😍
This is an awesome format for car "challenges". I'd love to see different versions of this i.e. various types of cars, various tracks. People pick their teams and then put them in order without knowing the other teams order so you don't know who you're going against, like the Ryder Cup.
Tiff has always got a semi on around quick cars.
This was class.
Bad drivers.
Especially in the two Ford Focus RS.
This was genuinely great! Keep doing it like this with you 3!!! Reminds me of the old "Best Motoring International" which was the pinnacle for car enthusiast.
I'm just sad there was no SEAT Cupra at this party :-(
Focus RS is so far behind on the Germans. Had 1 and it just isnt as fast everybody wants it to be. Handling, yes, superb, much better then all the other cars, accept maybe for the impreza, whats also an amazing car. But Just go fast, in a straight Line, BMW, Mercedes and Audi are Just way faster. I switch to an A45 AMG which is Just a way better car. I also drove An 140i but that also was not super fast and handling, like all BMW models from last years, is Just not as good anymore. BMW is loosing terrain on Mercedes and Audi fast. To bad. Always liked the M models, but there simply to far behind.
Another awesome video. Using the owners to drive added to that real world unpredictability. Love it. When are you doing a muscle car shoot out!?!?!?!?
Type R ??? Megane Rs !!!! 👎
NO THANKS
Brilliant stuff! 😄
M140i is the king
I have subbed. Never seen this channel before but I liked it
What a load of garbage. Half the cars were launched at idle from the looks of it. Left lane diver was fixing races for the camera. Hate fake stuff like this. Audi S3 down 69 bhp wins by 4 or 5 car lengths. Come on!! Can't even hear the focus engine revs as it gets close.
stock for stock the S3 and Golf R just edges the Focus in a straight line because of the DSG. Agreed though the guy in the RS didnt even use launch control....
FairPlay you total knob. What would faking anything gain you melt ??
Dewster green watch and learn punk. Even start by all parties, golf Gets owned.
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michael taylor focus rs is 13.5 to quarter mile. Golf r and s3 are 13.1
michael taylor that’s a manual golf r, durr
I simply love the chemistry you guys have with eachother. Again a weltklasses episode. Keep up the good work
Great Video Guys ! :-)
Cool Video! 👍
Great Idea for a show. I enjoyed it! :)
Should do a small hatchback...Corsa VXR, Fiesta ST, 208 GTI, Polo GTI, Clio RS, Ibiza Cupra and whatever else. Would be sick!
Would be nice to see a modified 1.0 Fiesta With stage 1 or stage 2 remap against these too. Insane for a 1 litre!
Great video!
Wanted to see the m140 drag race the cars from the previous episodes which was the golf R and the Audi rs3
I'm afraid there's no point, as everyone knows it would have come last.
S3 kills most thing on the road 😁😁
What have we learnt? Fords are slow at drag racing and the owners prefer cleaning them 😆
I've had liked to have seen them pick the cars and then see what the lowest combined lap times would have been... that would have made an interesting shoot out.
Maybe next time 👍
Do they even launch??
Lunch, yes. Launch, no. :)
I don't get it, are the drivers like new to driving..or cars..or launch controls?
Think a bit of stage fright!
Boom Golf R estate! :D
I’m an Audi fan and was surprised at the Focus RS in this race, but overall a hilarious run of great caliber cars!
Well.....SUBIE GANG 🤙😎
What about the Cossie?
Looks like the fwd mini beat it
Loved this👌
Another quality video 👌 my UA-cam heaven
I think you enjoyed making this video more than I enjoyed watching.
Brilliant series 👍
Audi is Audi💪💪
112k views in 3days, good stuff. Well done!
Great video once again. You guys should do a episode on the "resto-mod" MG's by Frontline developments!, tiff drove one before but there are two models and it would be perfect for you guys to make a quality video!! Here's to hoping.