I would love a 2lber let alone a 3lber. Not many down south. I live in East Sussex. I’ve had them in the Thames many years ago. I need to go on the Frome in Dorchester.
Hey Douglas, - "Bobber" type floats present a lot of resistance to taking fish and result in many missed bites. A range of stick, balsa, and avon floats will cover all such trotting situations and give far better presentation. By fishing a small stick float and size 20 hook with single maggot, I've had over 50 grayling in a few hours. Regular loose feeding will draw the shoal right to your feet if done correctly. Not, so important with solitary big Grayling, but works fantastic with shoals of smaller fish, as they get wary very quickly once a few have been caught. I've found that, if the water is so deep it needs a bait dropper to get the bait down in your trotted area, it's usually too deep to hold anything but, a the odd big, solitary Grayling. Speed of flow seems irrelevant to Grayling, so if it's really fast and you wish to trickle feed, throw your loose feed further upstream. It's all about figuring out where, your bait is getting to the bottom as the Grayling will concentrate there. If you do not, feed sufficiently and regularly, the shoal will home in on the baited area then, move upstream beyond it seeking the source of the feed, meaning you il catch a couple than, lose the shoal. A good stick float angler can hold a shoal in front of them all day, but you need to drop down to single maggot on a size 20 to hit the wary bites. You can catch most coarse fish in large numbers fishing that way. Nice vid.
Thank you awesome comments and great information, I’ll certainly look into changing my ways. I’ve always known going lighter would be the way ahead. Much appreciated and Hank’s for watching
You're welcome. Your vids are so good, they should be on mainstream TV as an angling show. Seriously. Just the right mix of experience, knowledge, enthusiasm, and humility. All success to you!@@PiscatorUK-Fishing
Great video as usual allways shearing his set up. No secrets with Dougie thats what i like about him i tex him and he responds to my messages all the time plenty of nolage on the rivers with his fishing cheers mate
Cheers Andy, I think it gives you more options, especially on big rivers or if the flow is pushing a bit. Don’t get me wrong, it is wonderful to get a big grayling on down the end of a long run but that’s only if you can see the float😂
@@johndunsmore430 cheers for watching and commenting John, I’ve only ever used the NGT which was only £40- £45, it’s a great reel for the price. I couldn’t comment on the others buddy as I’ve not used them
Hi m8 hope its not stupid question. I'm going out Friday. I really liked the look of olivetts. Looks nice and neat. If I'm using a 2g float it a 2g olivetts? I'm thinking using float stops either end.
@@johndunsmore430 hi John, no problem mate, a 2 gram float should support a 2gram weight. I like have a verity of olivett weights as I like to use shot below the olivett for presentation depending on the flow. So for 2gram float I’d have 1.75?olivet and some shot. But it’s just personal preference and what you’re comfortable with. Using float stops depends on the Type of float. If using a thin wire or carbon stem float silicone and float rubbers work better and still easily adjustable. What kind of floats are you thinking about using?
@PiscatorUK-Fishing fishing nice beat on nith Friday..going angling centre tomorrow ill buy a selection of olivetts. Definitely look neater and easier to adjust..i hate moving shot on my line
Heres a wee thought for you,digital scales work with a load cell which is basically a resistor.Resistors vary depending on temperature so if it was a cold day then the resistance would be lower therefore the weight shown would also be lower so you taking it to a shop where the temperature is higher to check the calibration proves nothing,you may actually have caught a 3lber
Enjoyable vid. It's so easy to overestimate the weight of a grayling, they just seem to go light for their size. The fly fishing world is full of anglers who reckon they've caught 3lb grayling but who would get a shock if they actually weighed their fish. Fair play to you for not falling into the same trap. Have to admit though, I really cringe at the holding the fin up lark. I dont think it adds anything to a shot other than to make the angler look a bit daft.
Thanks Matt, yes I fell into that one about holding the fin up thinking it was the normal thing to do, fare point!!. Definitely a surprise to me on weighing that fish and showed it really to emphasise the fact, just because you think it should be a certain weight doesn’t mean it is. As a 3lb grayling is my goal, I’ll weigh anything that looks close, when I achieve that I’ll never weigh another grayling, I’ll just give its length. Thanks for watching👍
@PiscatorUK-Fishing fair play to you. I've weighed dozens of the bigger grayling I've caught over the years and whilst I can accurately estimate a trout in the 2-4lb bracket to a couple of ounces I'm still sometimes miles out with grayling. A true 3lber is a fish to be proud of. Good luck with your quest. Nith is as good a bet as any.
Thanks Darren, I’ve never eaten grayling the look too pretty to eat. It is catch and release on the section of river I was on but some beats do allow minimal numbers to be killed.
Hi buddy, it’s called a centre pin reel, totally different to a fly reel although it looks similar. For trotting a float it gives you a lot more control over the float on a river as the line comes of the reel smoothly fathers than loose coils that you get with a fixed spool. It’s not suitable for all conditions though it has its pros and cons.
@@PiscatorUK-Fishing you can between bottom of line guard and the rod but not as comfortable as without guard, however the guard stops line from wrapping around the reel. horses for courses to be honest
@@oscarwmcg7382 thanks for your reply Oscar. I’ve not had much trouble with the line wrapping around the handle but very occasionally I’ve taking my eye off the ball and you look down and oops.
Sad to see the practice of pulling the dorsal is still alive and kicking, with the full weight of the fish resting on the palm of a hand. Weighing it in a carrier bag, touch of class that.
Great viewing Douglas and stunning fish, thanks for sharing and tight lines for 2024!
Thanks Richard glad you enjoyed it mate. Tight lines
Super video, well filmed and great explanation of what you're doing. Looks a nice beat. Thanks for sharing Douglas.
Cheers Phil, much appreciated buddy👍
Great video douglas very enjoyable watch !!!
Thanks Alan👍
Beautiful fish, unlucky with the ones you lost. The 2.10 was a stunner.
@@bailienicoljarvie2878 thanks mate, yeah we were very fortunate to hook into two great fish over the 2 days
Brilliant, great watch 😊
Cheers buddy👍
Great to see you out again mate.
I think I’m coming of age and il have to learn this type of fishing
Cheers Steve, it was good to get some fishing in after some floods and heavy winds. You’re more than welcome mate, if you want to give it a bash.
Great video as always mate 🎣🎣🎣😎
Thanks buddy
Fantastic video brilliant hope you get your three pounder soon. Brilliant to watch. Excellent keep up the good work. Amazing.
@@paulstevens6564 cheers Paul much appreciated buddy and thanks for leaving a comment. Hopefully that 3lb er, comes along in th start of the year🤞
I would love a 2lber let alone a 3lber. Not many down south. I live in East Sussex. I’ve had them in the Thames many years ago. I need to go on the Frome in Dorchester.
another great video i enjoy them all mate
Thanks James👍
Hey Douglas, - "Bobber" type floats present a lot of resistance to taking fish and result in many missed bites. A range of stick, balsa, and avon floats will cover all such trotting situations and give far better presentation. By fishing a small stick float and size 20 hook with single maggot, I've had over 50 grayling in a few hours. Regular loose feeding will draw the shoal right to your feet if done correctly. Not, so important with solitary big Grayling, but works fantastic with shoals of smaller fish, as they get wary very quickly once a few have been caught.
I've found that, if the water is so deep it needs a bait dropper to get the bait down in your trotted area, it's usually too deep to hold anything but, a the odd big, solitary Grayling. Speed of flow seems irrelevant to Grayling, so if it's really fast and you wish to trickle feed, throw your loose feed further upstream. It's all about figuring out where, your bait is getting to the bottom as the Grayling will concentrate there. If you do not, feed sufficiently and regularly, the shoal will home in on the baited area then, move upstream beyond it seeking the source of the feed, meaning you il catch a couple than, lose the shoal. A good stick float angler can hold a shoal in front of them all day, but you need to drop down to single maggot on a size 20 to hit the wary bites.
You can catch most coarse fish in large numbers fishing that way.
Nice vid.
Thank you awesome comments and great information, I’ll certainly look into changing my ways. I’ve always known going lighter would be the way ahead. Much appreciated and Hank’s for watching
You're welcome. Your vids are so good, they should be on mainstream TV as an angling show. Seriously. Just the right mix of experience, knowledge, enthusiasm, and humility. All success to you!@@PiscatorUK-Fishing
Great video as usual allways shearing his set up. No secrets with Dougie thats what i like about him i tex him and he responds to my messages all the time plenty of nolage on the rivers with his fishing cheers mate
🙏🏻many thanks Ian thanks for your support pal, tight lines for the new season.
Stonkers, wee done. Been using a bait dropper too, makes a huge difference i reckon
Cheers Andy, I think it gives you more options, especially on big rivers or if the flow is pushing a bit. Don’t get me wrong, it is wonderful to get a big grayling on down the end of a long run but that’s only if you can see the float😂
@PiscatorUK-Fishing i know i need one of those big boy floats! Ever tried mashed bread for them?
@andypeutherer4218 used for ground bait?
@PiscatorUK-Fishing yeah im thinking of trying bread and mash at some point, must pull them in from miles away. Bit of something smelly mixed in too
Great video..I'm thinking changing the centrevpin reel.could u recommend one please
@@johndunsmore430 cheers for watching and commenting John, I’ve only ever used the NGT which was only £40- £45, it’s a great reel for the price. I couldn’t comment on the others buddy as I’ve not used them
@PiscatorUK-Fishing that's an ideal price. I'll have a look cheers m8
@ no worries buddy
Hi m8 hope its not stupid question. I'm going out Friday. I really liked the look of olivetts. Looks nice and neat. If I'm using a 2g float it a 2g olivetts? I'm thinking using float stops either end.
@@johndunsmore430 hi John, no problem mate, a 2 gram float should support a 2gram weight. I like have a verity of olivett weights as I like to use shot below the olivett for presentation depending on the flow. So for 2gram float I’d have 1.75?olivet and some shot. But it’s just personal preference and what you’re comfortable with. Using float stops depends on the Type of float. If using a thin wire or carbon stem float silicone and float rubbers work better and still easily adjustable. What kind of floats are you thinking about using?
@PiscatorUK-Fishing I've got a nice 2g premier. Alsoi like an avon float..Ifvitscfast water i like a long stem under float
@PiscatorUK-Fishing fishing nice beat on nith Friday..going angling centre tomorrow ill buy a selection of olivetts. Definitely look neater and easier to adjust..i hate moving shot on my line
Heres a wee thought for you,digital scales work with a load cell which is basically a resistor.Resistors vary depending on temperature so if it was a cold day then the resistance would be lower therefore the weight shown would also be lower so you taking it to a shop where the temperature is higher to check the calibration proves nothing,you may actually have caught a 3lber
I’m happy with that explanation because I’m still stumped by the size in relation to weight. Appreciate the comment buddy much appreciated👍
Enjoyable vid. It's so easy to overestimate the weight of a grayling, they just seem to go light for their size. The fly fishing world is full of anglers who reckon they've caught 3lb grayling but who would get a shock if they actually weighed their fish. Fair play to you for not falling into the same trap.
Have to admit though, I really cringe at the holding the fin up lark. I dont think it adds anything to a shot other than to make the angler look a bit daft.
Thanks Matt, yes I fell into that one about holding the fin up thinking it was the normal thing to do, fare point!!. Definitely a surprise to me on weighing that fish and showed it really to emphasise the fact, just because you think it should be a certain weight doesn’t mean it is. As a 3lb grayling is my goal, I’ll weigh anything that looks close, when I achieve that I’ll never weigh another grayling, I’ll just give its length. Thanks for watching👍
@PiscatorUK-Fishing fair play to you. I've weighed dozens of the bigger grayling I've caught over the years and whilst I can accurately estimate a trout in the 2-4lb bracket to a couple of ounces I'm still sometimes miles out with grayling. A true 3lber is a fish to be proud of. Good luck with your quest. Nith is as good a bet as any.
Thanks for the great video. Are those fish good to eat or is it a catch and release fishery ?
Thanks Darren, I’ve never eaten grayling the look too pretty to eat. It is catch and release on the section of river I was on but some beats do allow minimal numbers to be killed.
Lovely stuff, what’s the reason behind using a fly reel instead of a spinning reel?
Hi buddy, it’s called a centre pin reel, totally different to a fly reel although it looks similar. For trotting a float it gives you a lot more control over the float on a river as the line comes of the reel smoothly fathers than loose coils that you get with a fixed spool. It’s not suitable for all conditions though it has its pros and cons.
@@PiscatorUK-Fishing ah okay, thank you
Top man sir 🐟🐟🐟
Thanks Stephen👍
Cracking video, can you say where to get a day ticket for the stretch?, cheers👍
No problem mate, FishPal Dalswinton
@@PiscatorUK-Fishing many thanks, all the best👍😀
Those NGT pins are cracking reels for the price! Only downside there’s no line guard on them
Cheers mate, for the price I’ve no complaints. Never use a centre pin with a line guard can you still use your palm to retrieve line?
@@PiscatorUK-Fishing you can between bottom of line guard and the rod but not as comfortable as without guard, however the guard stops line from wrapping around the reel. horses for courses to be honest
@@oscarwmcg7382 thanks for your reply Oscar. I’ve not had much trouble with the line wrapping around the handle but very occasionally I’ve taking my eye off the ball and you look down and oops.
Sad to see the practice of pulling the dorsal is still alive and kicking, with the full weight of the fish resting on the palm of a hand. Weighing it in a carrier bag, touch of class that.
Thanks for watching Rob and commenting very much appreciated👍
No worries, it was an enjoyable watch, well shot and the rig info was informative. We just differ on the handling of fish.
Looked 3 all day ! , clearly a hollow fish .
I’m still stumped mate and in disbelief, maybe if it was a female may have made the mark.
Nice grayling mate.......loosing a fish at the net is horrible
Definitely and it looked a nice fish
And dodgy scales 😂😂😂😂
You know it! wishing I didn’t have them with me, still think they are dodgy😂